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Good afternoon and a very warm welcome to our live coverage of the | 0:00:17 | 0:00:25 | |
Scottish Conservatives' conference in Troon. The party faithful are | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
gathering in the courtroom. We will hear from Ruth Davidson making her | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
first conference speech as leader. She would say there will be no | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
compromise with the SNP in the battle to keep the union. With me | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
in the studio is Professor John Curtice and our man beside the | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
seaside is Brian Taylor, our political editor. Thank you for | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
joining me. This is Ruth Davidson's maiden speech to conference. I | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
suppose we are expecting a stout defence of the union again. I think | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
we are. She has picked a lovely place for it. That is Troon harbour, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
we have planes flying above and bobbies on bikes. We've even got | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
police horses but in terms of transport, the path ahead for Ruth | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
Davidson is definitely Scotland staying within the Union. Thank you | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
very much. John Curtice, 12 months ago, Ruth Davidson didn't even know | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
she was going to be elected as an MSP and now she is speaking to the | 0:01:23 | 0:01:33 | |
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conference. It has been a major effect rise. F -- a meteoric rise. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
The financial allegations made to the person who was number one long | 0:01:37 | 0:01:44 | |
does the's list, it meant Rees became a number one and became a | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
elected leader. The other thing we are looking for his have defect -- | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
her defence of the union but also her road map for the party is | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
Gordon. What does she regard her as her priorities? She is quite a | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
radical right-wing politician. She has some very clear views that | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Scotland's public services should be delivered a very different from | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
the way they are at the moment. True might be used to tourists but | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
this weekend, the Tories had descended. They have turned up to | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
hear the Prime Minister launched a robust defence of his party's | 0:02:16 | 0:02:24 | |
values and argued it was time to take the fight to the nationalists. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
Their share is synonymous with Gulf, often a frustrating sport, not | 0:02:30 | 0:02:36 | |
unlike politics. One day, you can't miss, the next, nothing goes down. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
For the Tories, the last few elections have seen few successes | 0:02:40 | 0:02:46 | |
so time to change technique. One person certainly thinks so. Let's | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
be frank, we aren't will be one to be in Scotland. We are nowhere near | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
it. There are those who think this is just a fact of life, that a | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
small Conservative presence north of the border is inevitable. I am | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
resolutely not one of those people. I am here today to argue that this | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
could be Alamo rent. If we are bold enough to come back stronger. -- | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
this could be Alamo and. This is a nation founded on thrift and graft, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:24 | |
paying your way,. There is a profound belief in personal | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
responsibility. And there is a passionate belief in family, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
community and country. For Conservatives looking at these | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
qualities, looking at these values, it is like booking in the mirror. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:45 | |
They hour -- they are our qualities and our values. He said they could | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
be proud of their message. More conservative. The time for timidity | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
is over. Enough of the hand- wringing and trying to be all | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
things to all people. Let's be clear about what we stand for and | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
what we won't put up with. suggested the Conservatives could | 0:04:03 | 0:04:10 | |
help their party by saving the union. We have led the SNP claimed | 0:04:10 | 0:04:17 | |
ownership of patriotism. But it is the symbol of a nation, not one | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
political party. You can be even prouder of your Scottish heritage | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
as of yore British heritage as many in Scotland up and still believe | 0:04:27 | 0:04:35 | |
that Scotland is better off in Britain. But he won't leave -- lead | 0:04:35 | 0:04:42 | |
the Conservative campaign. The one and only Annabel Goldie. Thank | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
goodness we have found something for the old bird to do! I have to | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
tell you, ladies and gentlemen, there is no will to which I would | 0:04:53 | 0:04:58 | |
more readily put my shoulder and to keeping a school -- a strong | 0:04:58 | 0:05:06 | |
Scotland within a strong Britain. Also lending their shoulders, a | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
line-up of lords and ladies, friends of the Union. All of us, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
Scottish, English, Northern Irish and Welsh, we need to show just | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
what this relationship means to us. And that Scotland is better off in | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
Britain and Britain is better off in Scotland. By driving through a | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
programme of separatism, saying we have to drag Scotland out and say | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
the Scottish identity into a place by ourselves, you are doing | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
violence to part of the identity of every Scotsman's. There is a | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
British component in the identity of every Scotsman and two separate | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
that or to try and bring about separation is to do violence to | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
people's own sense of identity and this is not a good thing to do in | 0:05:47 | 0:05:56 | |
any event. Controversial talk from the winner of a noble Pre's prize. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:01 | |
-- a Nobel Peace Prize. Here, they used to make gun boats so it is a | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
fitting location for a party who says it is ready for the fight of | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
the future. It is one thing all this rhetoric, they still have an | 0:06:09 | 0:06:19 | |
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awful lot of work to do to sweeten Let's go back to Professor John | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
Curtice from Strathclyde University and Brian Taylor beside the seaside. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
Brian, some of the Tory press this morning were saying that the Prime | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Minister gave the Tories quite a chiding because he was saying stop | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
the hand-wringing and stop the timidity. What is your assessment | 0:06:37 | 0:06:46 | |
of the speech? No, not a chiding butts and exultation. I think it is | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
keeping with the approach that Ruth Davidson take. I believe that she | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
was encouraging him down that path. The path of saying that she, as a | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
young leader, does not remember Margaret Thatcher being in office. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
It is time for the party and the Scot and, basically, to get over | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
that period and to think in a different way. I also agree with | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
John Kerr it is about the approach she would take two policies. I | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
think she would say that should there be substantial tax powers, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
once those tax powers of through and in place for the Scottish | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Parliament, she will be in favour of cutting income tax in Scotland. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
If you think that the logic of the Conservative position it is only | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
with substantial powers in the Scottish Power's, Ace of sexual | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
ground upon which to play that you can credibly -- a substantial | 0:07:34 | 0:07:43 | |
ground on which to play that you can credibly argue for lowering tax. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
This was the big appeal, trying to attract Scots who might be | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
interested in the centre right policies, but they just can't reach | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
out and get the support, can they? They can't. I think the Prime | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
Minister's prescription was very good. It is often argued that | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Scotland is so much more left-wing than England and this is the reason | 0:08:06 | 0:08:13 | |
why the Conservatives can't prosper. But the truth is it is something of | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
a myth. If the look at opinion surveys, Scotland is a little bit | 0:08:17 | 0:08:24 | |
more left-wing than Scotland but only have a bit more, about 5% more. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
However, the problem for the Conservatives is that even those | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
who are on the Centre Right and the right in Scotland are much less | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
willing to vote for the party north of the border than there are south | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
of the border. The reason seems to be because those who indeed | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
primarily feel Scottish, those who wanted a Scottish Parliament that | 0:08:44 | 0:08:49 | |
is strong, for the moment, they eschew the Scottish Conservative | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
Party. I think the challenge for Ruth Davidson is that if she wants | 0:08:54 | 0:09:00 | |
to defend the Union on the one hand and be sceptical about more power | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
to Scottish Parliament but at the same time wanting to attract people | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
on the Centre Right, is can she bring those two things together. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
The position on the union and their perception of being an England | 0:09:12 | 0:09:22 | |
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party seems to cuts across. That sounds like a difficult balance to | 0:09:22 | 0:09:29 | |
strike. Can a parties campaign to fight for the union means they will | 0:09:29 | 0:09:37 | |
attract more support? What the are trained to do, they have declined | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
over an extended prolonged period because they were seen increasingly | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
as being other than Scots, they were seen as primarily an English | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
party. It was complete therefore best prospects in Scotland. They | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
were brandishing patriotism, a branch in the Union flag. They | 0:09:55 | 0:10:01 | |
picked the wrong patriotism. Or the Prime Minister was saying is stress | 0:10:02 | 0:10:07 | |
the Scottishness and argue from the union but argue from a very much | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
Scottish position. And the PM also said that he seems to argue that | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
the campaign for the union, it will invigorate the Tories themselves. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
He believes as a consequence of that, with that reinvigoration, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
they can start campaigning on issues like the economy and society | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
and perhaps then, they can reach out to Scottish people. In other | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
words, you have to get past the obstacle of being seen as other | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
than a Scottish party and then perhaps, you'll get a hearing for | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
the other issues that the Prime Minister was arguing should be | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
advanced. Now, a debate on the constitution is going on in the | 0:10:46 | 0:10:52 | |
hall in Troon. Let's cross live there and listen in. As part of | 0:10:52 | 0:10:57 | |
this partnership, we are the 7th wealthiest nation on earth. We can | 0:10:57 | 0:11:05 | |
play a major role in the future developments of mankind on a global | 0:11:05 | 0:11:14 | |
stage and also, even with one of the worst global recessions ever | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
and 13 years of Labour rule, we are still in a position to look to | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
prosper and grow. In short, we are stronger together and weaker apart. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
That is why we all need to go out from this hall today and make that | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
positive case for the union and continue our pledge for a | 0:11:36 | 0:11:46 | |
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resounding and unwavering support Thank you. I would like to ask Paul | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
bordering -- Paul Gordon from the British Conservatives in Madrid and | 0:12:00 | 0:12:10 | |
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Alex Fergusson SNP to speak. Thank you. I spoke before. I will come | 0:12:13 | 0:12:21 | |
back on. I would just like to support the words given up by our | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
colleague from Renfrewshire. I really think we have to cut Alex | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Salmond down to size. We cannot underestimate what he is trying to | 0:12:28 | 0:12:35 | |
do. It is a real, real campaign based on lies and manipulation. He | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
is trying to brainwash the Scottish people and he's a very canny and | 0:12:42 | 0:12:50 | |
shrewd man. I met him years ago at a debate when he was a lot thinner | 0:12:50 | 0:12:57 | |
and I was as well. And he really caught my attention because he does | 0:12:57 | 0:13:04 | |
have a lot of political capacity. We must not underestimate him or | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
his stooges, to use that word, the apostles of division and hatred, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
this is really sad. When I am asked about this in Spain by Spanish | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
people, they ask me, what is happening in your country? Has | 0:13:19 | 0:13:26 | |
Scotland been, has it had such a bad deal out of Great Britain? They | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
are really quite surprised. Spain is going down a similar story, of | 0:13:30 | 0:13:36 | |
course. And for that reason, as Mr Stevenson said, the Spanish | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
government is looking at this story with great preoccupation because | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
Catalonia and the Basque country are in a similar situation, if not | 0:13:45 | 0:13:51 | |
even worse. And I would like just to say that we must cut Alex | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
Salmond down to size. We live in a democracy and we cannot allow him | 0:13:56 | 0:14:03 | |
to spend taxpayers' money as if it was bred falling from heaven. He | 0:14:03 | 0:14:11 | |
must be cut down to size. One of the debates. We will be going back | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
to that shortly when the Home Secretary Theresa May will be | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
speaking. Yesterday, the Prime Minister gave a rallying call to | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
the faithful in the party and said he will fight for the party with | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
everything they have. The speech began with an admission that it | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
wasn't always been easy being a conservative in Scotland. We walk | 0:14:30 | 0:14:35 | |
taller, we shout loud together. That is why I say not only can you | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
love Scotland and love the United Kingdom, not only can you drive | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
yourself in both flags, but let me say this, you can be even prouder | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
of your Scottish Heritage then you're British heritage, as many in | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Britain are, and still believe that Scotland is better off in Britain. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
All of this is why this Prime Minister and his party is going to | 0:14:58 | 0:15:08 | |
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fight for the United Kingdom with So I am eager that the hold of that | 0:15:16 | 0:15:22 | |
debate, we put that question, we make that decision. But do you know | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
the big roadblock standing in the way of this referendum? It is the | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
man who has been calling for it for decades! At the last election, Alex | 0:15:32 | 0:15:37 | |
Salmond asked for a mandate for a vote on independence. He won that | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
election, he got back mandate, I have offered him his referendum, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
but now he will not take it. What on earth is going on? First he | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
wanted a referendum in 2010, now he says he needs 1000 days. First he | 0:15:52 | 0:15:59 | |
said he wanted one question, now he is after two. Now he is talking | 0:15:59 | 0:16:06 | |
about Deval Max Audie vote Plus, soon it will be due for the sequel. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
I thought we were meant to be watching the movie Braveheart, it | 0:16:10 | 0:16:20 | |
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turned out it is a chicken run! APPLAUSE. What is he waiting for? | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
He says he wants to know when a more devolved powers are on the | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
table. But no one can appear at -- accuse me of being pragmatic -- | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
dogmatic. In the Scottish bill, we have a huge transfer of fiscal | 0:16:41 | 0:16:47 | |
powers. Indeed, the proportion of the budget that can be raised in | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
Scotland by more than double. This week, we have reached agreement | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
with the Scottish Government on further issues they wanted | 0:16:54 | 0:17:00 | |
reflected in the bill. So this is a bill, delivered in Westminster by a | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Conservative prime minister, supported by the Scottish | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
Government, consented to by the Scottish Parliament, I promised | 0:17:07 | 0:17:12 | |
respect and that is exactly what we are giving. Scotland's two | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
governments and to parliaments working together. Beyond this, I am | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
open-minded about the transfer of more powers, as long as those | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
powers are truly about improving the lives of people in Scotland and | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
not just bargaining chips in some endless game of constitutional | 0:17:27 | 0:17:37 | |
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poker. APPLAUSE. But all of these are principally questions for after | 0:17:39 | 0:17:44 | |
the referendum. The people of Scotland were promised at a clear | 0:17:44 | 0:17:50 | |
choice. Yes or no. In or out of the United Kingdom. And that is exactly | 0:17:50 | 0:17:55 | |
the clarity they should get. Delay creates uncertainty, for businesses, | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
investors, families. People need to know one way or the other. So why | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
message to the First Minister is this: stop dithering and start | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
delivering. Let us give the Scottish people the chance to make | 0:18:09 | 0:18:19 | |
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a clear choice about their future. APPLAUSE. In that campaign, I want | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
us to demonstrate that this is a party with a proud, patriotic | 0:18:27 | 0:18:33 | |
message. Scottish and British. But our long-term future depends on | 0:18:33 | 0:18:40 | |
much more than that. It depends on showing how our values canned make | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
for the values of Scotland. I see no reason at all why a party that | 0:18:45 | 0:18:50 | |
is moderate, sensible, centre right, cannot represent millions of people | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
in Scotland. This is a nation founded on the virtues of thrift | 0:18:54 | 0:19:00 | |
and graft. Of paying your way and not running up debts. There is a | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
profound belief in personal responsibility that its Scottish | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
workers through the snow and into work on a winter morning. There is | 0:19:08 | 0:19:13 | |
that buccaneering spirit. There is that passionate belief in family, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
community and country. For Conservatives looking at these | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
qualities, looking at these values, it is like looking in the mirror. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
The art are qualities, our values. Yet let us face it, that is not how | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
many Scots think of our party. The pensioner in Yorkshire at votes | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
Conservative because he or she knows we will look after every | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
pound of taxpayers' money. But too often, the pensioner in Perthshire | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
with with the same belief in sound money, rejects us. The entrepreneur | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
in Birmingham backs us because we believe in lower taxes in | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
enterprise, but no one in Glasgow does not always do the same. The | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
mother in Suffolk likes our focus on building a strong, safe society | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
where built -- children are brought up with the right values. So does | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
the mother in an this, but still there is something holding her back | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
in the ballot box. Some would say it is always going to be like this | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
so just get used to it. Icy it is time that we stood up even more | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
strongly, -- I say it is time that we stood up more strongly for those | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
values we believe in. When you make a strong argument, people listen. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Those who agree will follow your lead. That is what we have done on | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
the question of the Union. For years, we shied away from the | 0:20:38 | 0:20:43 | |
subject, afraid of saying anything, worried it would be taken the wrong | 0:20:43 | 0:20:49 | |
way. No way, the Conservatives, are the ones on the front foot, asking | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
for the referendum, looking for that challenge. And although we are | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
just at the start of this journey, people are beginning to listen to | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
us. We needed to show the same fight right across the board on all | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
of the issues that really matter to the Scottish people. The economy | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
the work and, the opportunities for their children, the society 11. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
People in Scotland deserve a real choice about these things, and that | 0:21:18 | 0:21:24 | |
should include sensible, practical, centre right ideas. And that can | 0:21:24 | 0:21:30 | |
only come from us. The time of timidity is over. Enough of trying | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
to be all things to all people. Let us be clear about what we stand for | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
and what we will not put up with. Let us take for instance our | 0:21:38 | 0:21:44 | |
message about fiscal responsibility out to this country. This is a | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
nation with prudence in its blood. Every sensible Scot knows that we | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
have to live within our means. The knows that there are no shortcuts | 0:21:52 | 0:21:58 | |
to get out of the mess we are run. Labour and the SNP are trying to | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
tap into this mood. They are beginning to talk the language of | 0:22:03 | 0:22:08 | |
austerity. But Askew, have you heard anyone from Labour or the s | 0:22:08 | 0:22:14 | |
MP ever asking for a sensible cut in anything? We have had the Celtic | 0:22:14 | 0:22:20 | |
Lion, the art of prosperity, but nothing about how we can live | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
within our means. So we have to be clear to the Scottish people. If | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
you care about dealing with the deficit, if you care about not | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
handing on debts to your children, there is only one party on your | 0:22:34 | 0:22:42 | |
wavelength and that is us, the Scottish Conservatives. APPLAUSE. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
So let this be a challenge. Not just in the run-up to these | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
elections but in the months and years beyond. To reach out and send | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
out a rallying cry across Scotland seeing-to parents, who fear leaving | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
a legacy of debt to the next generation, we feel it too. You | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
have a home with us. To the young web entrepreneur who is desperate | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
to make money and to new jobs, we are behind you. You have a home | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
with us. To the pensioner who believes that a duty and decency | 0:23:15 | 0:23:20 | |
other pillars of our communal life, you have a home with us. To the | 0:23:20 | 0:23:26 | |
doctor, nurse, a teacher who want to have more say it on -- in what | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
happens in the ward or the classroom, you have a home with us. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
To everyone who wants more control over their lives and to | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
neighbourhoods, you have a home with us. To everyone who knows that | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
this is a great country but we have to work harder to make it greater | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
still, and to everyone who loves Scotland but loves the UK as well | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
for everything it can be in the future, come with us, join us, you | 0:23:50 | 0:24:00 | |
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have a home with us. APPLES. That was the prime minister | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
speaking yesterday. Let us go back to Brian in Troon. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:11 | |
It is getting sunnier by the second. It is absolutely gorgeous. Three | 0:24:11 | 0:24:17 | |
Conservative activists have joined me. He is saying enough of the | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
hand-wringing. Do you empathise with that? David Cameron made a | 0:24:22 | 0:24:31 | |
really great point about the strength of the Union in his speech. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
That was great for everyone to see. He made a really good points about | 0:24:35 | 0:24:42 | |
why we need to keep Great Britain together. This point he is making | 0:24:42 | 0:24:49 | |
about standing up for conservatism, does that go with you? Absolutely. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
There is no doubt that anyone who heard his speech yesterday knows | 0:24:53 | 0:24:59 | |
how passionate he is about keeping Scotland in the Union. But saying | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
it in that fashion, saying that if you are going to be a Tory, stop | 0:25:04 | 0:25:10 | |
apologising for it, does that echo what you? Yes. I think it is | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
important in Scotland for us to stand up for the principles we | 0:25:12 | 0:25:19 | |
believe them and to take those principles and positive stances and | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
create something people want to vote for. We have a great story to | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
tell and David Cameron put it across very well. One part was a | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
passionate defence of the Union and the second part was the things we | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
are doing, we have that Conservative Prime Minister and we | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
have just taken 2 million of the lowest pay two people out of income | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
tax. My apologies. We're going back into the conference will for | 0:25:45 | 0:25:55 | |
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Theresa May. -- conference hall. | 0:25:56 | 0:26:04 | |
Thank you very much. It is a real privilege to be able to join you | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
hear in Troon today. What a beautiful town it is. So typically | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
Scottish. I heard I hear hear it from over their! Stunning coastline, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:22 | |
friendly people and of course, a famous golf course. In so many ways, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
it represents all that is special about Scotland. Whenever I visit | 0:26:27 | 0:26:33 | |
Scotland, I am reminded of the fighting spirit of the Scots. It is | 0:26:33 | 0:26:39 | |
indeed across the globe. You might have noticed that I am not Scottish. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:44 | |
But I have often observed how you receive a warm welcome wherever you | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
travel. It is one of many things to be proud of. And it is reciprocated. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
When people visit the vibrant cities and put his gown at -- | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
pretty towns, the spiritual Islands of this great country, a country | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
admired across the world, indeed, how many people abroad who have not | 0:27:05 | 0:27:10 | |
even visited the shorts would like to claim roots in Scotland? Your | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
country and its people are loved and admired and everyone wants to | 0:27:15 | 0:27:23 | |
be part of it. But the Scotland Bill of is part of a bigger hole. - | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
- the Scotland they love is part of a bigger hole. And I am here today | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
to talk about why it should stay that way. I want Scotland to be | 0:27:32 | 0:27:42 | |
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part of the United Kingdom. I believe in the Union. APPLAUSE. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:55 | |
shared past, centuries of being together, the union for all its | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
history of up Sundowns is to be cherished. I have no doubt that | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
Scotland could survive outside the United Kingdom, but together we are | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
stronger. Stronger on the world stage, stronger in protecting our | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
sovereignty in Europe, stomping -- stronger in our own communities and | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
stronger for recognising this. I am pleased to have this opportunity to | 0:28:18 | 0:28:25 | |
talk to you about the work I do and how it operates within the union | 0:28:25 | 0:28:30 | |
and why I believe that continued success is tied to the union. As | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
Home Secretary, I see every day how we work together for the good of us | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
all. Assured intent that unite us. Working together to protect our | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
borders, working together, protecting the country from those | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
who would seek to do us harm. I also want to talk to you today | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
about some of the myths that the SNP would have people believe. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
Under what to start some debate over issues like Europe, a debate | 0:28:59 | 0:29:05 | |
that the SNP does not want you to have. I will not pretend that our | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
party is the most popular in Scotland. I will not pretend that | 0:29:09 | 0:29:13 | |
we do not have some way to go in asking Scotland to trust us again. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
But we ought to look to the future and the uncertainty of the union | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
demands that we must. I believe that each and every woman and man | 0:29:24 | 0:29:33 | |
in this room has a part to play in started to make good progress. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
There have been changes to the party in Scotland, of which we can | 0:29:36 | 0:29:43 | |
be proud. Your leader, at this Davidson, is a fresh talent. -- | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
Ruth Davidson. We have had -- we have seen gross in party membership | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
under her leadership. The new campaign will continue to yield | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
more to read the year. She has already become a powerful voice in | 0:29:56 | 0:30:02 | |
Scotland, making the arguments with passion and purpose. My friend | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
Annabel Goldie did so much for our party for so long and continues to | 0:30:06 | 0:30:16 | |
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It is something of an understatement to say that you are | 0:30:20 | 0:30:26 | |
a tough act to follow. But Ruth is following in her own way with her | 0:30:26 | 0:30:31 | |
own style. She has hit the ground running in modernising the party, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
said in a policy reviews and bringing people together. The | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
issues she faces as leader are not small as the party heads into local | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
government elections but under her leadership, I'm believe we are | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
making good progress. Like everyone in this room, she understands the | 0:30:47 | 0:30:53 | |
strength that comes from the union. Yesterday, the party launched its | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
friends of the union campaign and I look forward to helping in any way | 0:30:56 | 0:31:02 | |
I can. Under won's leadership, the party had the energy, the vision, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:07 | |
the will to win again and we can demonstrate that we are a modern, | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
relevant and powerful force in Scotland. And now, as the threat of | 0:31:12 | 0:31:22 | |
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separation looms large, Scotland Now, the question over the future | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
of the United Kingdom cannot be taken lightly. And that is why it | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
deserves open and honest debate on a number of key issues. Don't be | 0:31:42 | 0:31:50 | |
fooled, conference, by the better end in SNP. The Scottish National | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
Party is not made up of nationalists. Nor should we see | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
them as portraitists. As David Cameron said yesterday, how dare | 0:31:58 | 0:32:05 | |
the SNP claimed patriotism for independence alone. Is not everyone | 0:32:05 | 0:32:15 | |
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in this room a Patrick? -- a No, the SNP are not nationalists, | 0:32:22 | 0:32:29 | |
they are separatists. Separatist like Alex Salmond one to duck for | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
be tough questions. He calls himself a social democrat but he | 0:32:33 | 0:32:38 | |
fails to deal with the many issues for democracy which arise from | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
being a separate Scotland. He calls himself a progressive but what is | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
progressive about breaking Scotland off from the rest of the United | 0:32:46 | 0:32:52 | |
Kingdom, then giving away powers to Europe? It completely defeats the | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
SNP argument that Scotland would fare better with more control over | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
its own affairs when they seek to handover so many serious areas of | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
government elsewhere. And people want to know, and they have a right | 0:33:05 | 0:33:10 | |
to know, what handing over those powers will mean. Maybe even a | 0:33:10 | 0:33:16 | |
joining the single currency. In the UK, we maintain control over our | 0:33:16 | 0:33:24 | |
borders. Joining Europe's area could open Scotland up to mass | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
immigration. In the UK, we have an opt-out on justice and home affairs | 0:33:29 | 0:33:36 | |
matters. Almost certainly, Scotland would not have an opt out. All | 0:33:36 | 0:33:41 | |
serious issues with huge implications for Scotland. It is | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
unfair and it is undemocratic of Alex Salmond not to tell us how all | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
of this would affect Scotland. Now, let's take the issue of currency as | 0:33:51 | 0:33:57 | |
a case in point. Over the years, Alex Salmond has made the case for | 0:33:57 | 0:34:02 | |
Scotland joining the euro. Indeed, he did so with a passion for which | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
she is so well known. Nowadays, he has shifted his position. Now, he | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
says that an independent Scotland would retain Stirling. But that | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
doesn't really work either. Scotland were still find itself in | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
a currency zone in which interest rates are set elsewhere. All that | 0:34:20 | 0:34:27 | |
up he will, all that changed for no meaningful change at all. -- All | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
that upheaval. There are of course occasions when the governments of | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
Holyrood and Westminster might take a different view on an issue. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
Immigration is a policy area that is retained and for which I am | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
responsible as Home Secretary. However, the SNP and Labour believe | 0:34:44 | 0:34:49 | |
that all immigration is good. I don't agree. We need to reduce and | 0:34:49 | 0:34:56 | |
control immigration. For those who add value to our economy, the door | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
will always be open. Indeed, recent changes to the system we have made | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
make it easier for them to come. We won the brightest and the best, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:09 | |
those who will contribute to the economy to come to the UK. And of | 0:35:09 | 0:35:15 | |
course, we will always welcome those who generally seek refuge -- | 0:35:15 | 0:35:21 | |
refuge from persecution. But under Labour, a net migration to the UK | 0:35:21 | 0:35:27 | |
number 2.2 million people, some of those will have settled in Scotland. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
Understandably, some communities struggled with such rapid change. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:38 | |
They found that Labour's decade of mass mismanaged immigration policy | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
had a huge impact on public services like health and schools. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
Indeed, a recent report which included Scotland carried out by | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
the migration advisory committee found evidence to suggest a | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
negative association between people coming to Britain from outside | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
Europe and British-born employment during the past 15 years. It also | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
found that some potentially adverse impacts such as housing costs and | 0:36:03 | 0:36:07 | |
increased congestion in public transport are not easily absorbed. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
And then, there is illegal immigration, sham marriages, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:17 | |
illegal working, people staying on with expired visas, in rooting out | 0:36:17 | 0:36:22 | |
illegal immigrants, they have been some success stories he is often. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:29 | |
The UK Border Agency's Glasgow team disrupted nine sham marriages in | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Gretna this year. Earlier this month, the local immigration team | 0:36:32 | 0:36:37 | |
in Glasgow, accompanied by Strathclyde Police, addresses 11 | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
suspected illegal entrants. We have made it our aim to get net | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
migration back down to the tens of thousands. Cutting immigration | 0:36:46 | 0:36:52 | |
isn't simple and it will take time. But we are taking action on every | 0:36:52 | 0:36:58 | |
route to the UK. And worst it isn't simple, it is vital, so don't let | 0:36:58 | 0:37:08 | |
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Labour and the SNP tell you any Now, in being devolved, Scotland | 0:37:13 | 0:37:19 | |
has shown great success at managing its own affairs. As Home Secretary, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
I have no say at all in policing in Scotland and I wouldn't want it any | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
other way. There are many differences in our approach to | 0:37:26 | 0:37:31 | |
policing. Scotland will have just one force, we in England and Wales | 0:37:31 | 0:37:37 | |
have 43. But I am always struck by how well the arrangement works. And | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
it certainly doesn't mean we don't talk to each other. In fact, the | 0:37:39 | 0:37:44 | |
opposite is true. Police forces, intelligence agency and immigration | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
officers work alongside each other on everything from cracking down on | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
illegal immigration to counter terrorism. The approach balances | 0:37:52 | 0:37:58 | |
the reserved nature of some of the work while recognising the devolved | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
nature of important aspects of its delivery in Scotland. But again, we | 0:38:02 | 0:38:09 | |
are stronger together. The threat from terrorism shows no regard for | 0:38:09 | 0:38:16 | |
boarders. On several occasions, Scotland has been on the forefront | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
of international terrorist attacks. When the bomb went off at Glasgow | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
airport, before resources of the UK state went into running down every | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
need. Extensive co-operation between the UK and the Scottish | 0:38:30 | 0:38:34 | |
government has developed effective counter-terrorism capabilities. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
Working together, our governments have worked in preparation for the | 0:38:38 | 0:38:43 | |
Commonwealth Games in 2014. Scottish police forces and those in | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
England and Wales have been working closely to make this international | 0:38:47 | 0:38:54 | |
event safe and secure for all to enjoy. Indeed, a national counter- | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
terrorism exercise to test our preparedness in response to a | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
terror effect -- terror threat to the 2014 games will take place next | 0:39:03 | 0:39:10 | |
year. And we all look forward to delivering a secure London 2012 | 0:39:10 | 0:39:16 | |
games. And Glasgow, Hampden Park, that will be one of the venues. The | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
challenge of those games is immense. The Olympics safety and security | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
programme will probably be the largest security operation ever | 0:39:24 | 0:39:32 | |
taken in peacetime Britain. 10,500 athletes for the Olympics and over | 0:39:32 | 0:39:37 | |
4,000 for the Paralympics coming from over 200 countries. On the | 0:39:37 | 0:39:42 | |
busiest day, 800,000 live spectators. And a global TV | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
audience of up to 4 billion. And, by the way, 21,000 journalists, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:54 | |
twice the number of athletes! And every one of them looking for a | 0:39:54 | 0:39:59 | |
story. But with those 4 billion television viewers all around the | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
world, all the eyes of the world will be upon us. Regardless of | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
where you come from in the UK, we will be seen as British. Working | 0:40:08 | 0:40:15 | |
together, we are fighting the scourge of international terrorism. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
Working together, we are busting the international drug barons that | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
ruin our communities, rip families apart and ravaged the lives of so | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
many. Working together, we can look to the future as a United Kingdom. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
We are sending out the message that if people wish to threaten our | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
security and way of life, then, we stand ready together to do all we | 0:40:36 | 0:40:44 | |
can to stop them in their tracks. There is indeed more that brings us | 0:40:44 | 0:40:49 | |
together than tears us apart. A future in which Scotland, Wales, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
Northern Ireland and England continued to flourish side by side | 0:40:53 | 0:41:03 | |
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as equal partners. Different and Different and proud to be so. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:33 | |
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Surrey, did you say I should have whisky in this? -- sorry. Moving | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
forward together, we know what we are worth and will go out and get | 0:41:39 | 0:41:43 | |
what we are worth and we will do it together and that is how we will | 0:41:43 | 0:41:49 | |
win. And that is progressive. Conference, I believe in the Union. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:55 | |
We believe in the Union. So, let's see that famous Scottish fighting | 0:41:55 | 0:42:05 | |
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spirit out there on the doorsteps The Home Secretary Theresa May | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
being applauded by the people in the hall. Joining me his Professor | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
John Curtice of Strathclyde University. A very interesting | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
point that was picked up in a few of the papers today, her warning | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
about mass emigration to Scotland. Indeed, and that fitted a wider | 0:42:33 | 0:42:40 | |
theme in the speech. The argument is that Scotland, as part of the | 0:42:40 | 0:42:46 | |
United Kingdom, is better against threats from elsewhere. So, yes, in | 0:42:46 | 0:42:50 | |
part she was talking about immigration. She was also talk | 0:42:50 | 0:42:55 | |
about Europe, the single currency, also talk about terrorism and drugs. | 0:42:55 | 0:43:02 | |
These are all apparently external threats. She is trying to argue | 0:43:02 | 0:43:08 | |
that the union is better capable of defending Scotland from these | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
threats than Scotland is on its own. Some have the points will be | 0:43:12 | 0:43:22 | |
0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | ||
disputed. For example, the fact that UK is part of this agreement | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
has little effect. People have an agreement across the union | 0:43:28 | 0:43:32 | |
irrespective of having to show a passport or not. So whether | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
Scotland would end up with more people coming to this country from | 0:43:34 | 0:43:42 | |
Poland or other parts of eastern Europe,, frankly, it is irrelevant. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:48 | |
I things another points will be disputed. It is interesting to look | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
at some for points. The one to defence Scotland against some of | 0:43:52 | 0:43:58 | |
these threats, you need to keep the year. Had you think her speech goes | 0:43:58 | 0:44:03 | |
down to a Scottish audience? There was polite applause. Mass | 0:44:03 | 0:44:08 | |
immigration isn't really issued issue in Scott and. It is certainly | 0:44:08 | 0:44:14 | |
true that immigration from outside the European Union, Scotland has | 0:44:14 | 0:44:21 | |
had far less of that. Of course, is also true, and she was partly | 0:44:21 | 0:44:27 | |
alluding to this that Scotland's politicians, Scott and needs more | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
in the way of immigration in order to get the age balance in the | 0:44:30 | 0:44:35 | |
population. Ironically, we have seen the birth rate increase in | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
Scotland and we are getting a natural increase in population. So, | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
some of the requirement for extra immigration has dropped. But | 0:44:42 | 0:44:50 | |
certainly, Scotland, in a sense, existing in this context, and also | 0:44:50 | 0:44:54 | |
some of the arguments about whether immigration is a good or bad thing, | 0:44:54 | 0:44:58 | |
the tone of that debate has been somewhat different than for certain | 0:44:58 | 0:45:08 | |
0:45:08 | 0:45:14 | ||
Alex Ferguson said the case for it -- said it is impossible to | 0:45:14 | 0:45:19 | |
campaign against separation without explaining the consequences to the | 0:45:19 | 0:45:23 | |
Scottish people of rejecting independence. There is no doubt | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
that the pace of the debate since the New Year when the Government | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
announced its you on the legality of a bill on independence, and its | 0:45:33 | 0:45:37 | |
conclusion that a further transfer of powers was required to give the | 0:45:37 | 0:45:42 | |
Scottish Parliament the legal comes -- legal competence to enact such a | 0:45:42 | 0:45:46 | |
measure. The interesting thing is that when it comes to this crucial | 0:45:46 | 0:45:52 | |
question, the SNP actually agrees that it meets -- needs that | 0:45:52 | 0:45:56 | |
transfer of powers to enable such a stark choice to be put to the | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
Scottish people. Accordingly, why is it, you may ask, but since the | 0:46:01 | 0:46:09 | |
turn of the year there has been more discussion about a second | 0:46:09 | 0:46:15 | |
question then there has about the consequences and implications of | 0:46:15 | 0:46:19 | |
independence itself. No one has more to say on this subject then Mr | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
Salmond, whose attention should be focused on independence, of which | 0:46:24 | 0:46:31 | |
is after all the reason of existing up for his party. There is a | 0:46:31 | 0:46:35 | |
fundamental difference between independence and devolution, up | 0:46:35 | 0:46:44 | |
between sustaining a union and the break-up of Britain. Separation is | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
a fundamentally different proposition from any scheme of | 0:46:46 | 0:46:50 | |
devolution, and that is the question which needs to be answered | 0:46:50 | 0:46:56 | |
above all else and before all else. In my opinion, some proponents of | 0:46:56 | 0:47:01 | |
different models of devolution are playing with fire if they seek to | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
introduce the second questions or multiple choices into the | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
referendum. Wittingly or unwittingly, we're playing Alex | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
Salmond's game because this simply deflects attention from the main | 0:47:12 | 0:47:18 | |
area should and they should be wary of getting their fingers burnt. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:25 | |
can be no coincidence that in a recent poll, at 8% of undivided -- | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
undecided at voters said they would vote No to independence if they | 0:47:29 | 0:47:32 | |
knew that the pilot was to get for their powers and they knew what the | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
powers were to be. There is one very good reason to understand what | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
those powers would be in the event of a no vote. I do not think that | 0:47:41 | 0:47:46 | |
is a good enough reason. And no vote in the referendum is surely | 0:47:46 | 0:47:51 | |
what we all want, it is certainly what we all work for, and if this | 0:47:51 | 0:47:56 | |
is achieved, as I believe it will be, independence will be off the | 0:47:56 | 0:48:00 | |
agenda. But I ask you for how long will that be the case. It would be | 0:48:00 | 0:48:05 | |
until the next majority SNP Government is elected to Holyrood | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
and a new tranche of the SNP backbench fundamentalists have to | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
be mollycoddled by their leadership. I want an outcome to all of this | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
that knocks independence of the agenda, not just for the next five | 0:48:18 | 0:48:24 | |
or 10 years, but maybe for a century or more. The prize for all | 0:48:24 | 0:48:29 | |
of this if we get this right is the creation of a long-term, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:33 | |
sustainable constitutional structure that was a queue at of | 0:48:33 | 0:48:37 | |
all its -- devolved Scotland within the United Kingdom for several | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
generations to come. I simply do not believe we can achieve that | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
without considering and laying out our plans for the further | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
devolution of powers from Westminster to Holyrood. Alex | 0:48:48 | 0:48:54 | |
Ferguson there. Let us speak now to David Mundell. He is standing by | 0:48:54 | 0:49:02 | |
the seaside in at Troon. I just wanted to get up on one or two | 0:49:02 | 0:49:06 | |
points about Theresa May's speech there. She was saying that | 0:49:06 | 0:49:11 | |
independence could open up Scotland to mass emigration. Do you really | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
need these scare stories to try and keep the union? They are not scare | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
stories. We're trying to move the debate on about independence and | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
get people addressing the issues that Scotland will face if we | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
separate from the rest of Britain. There has been no such sensitive | 0:49:28 | 0:49:34 | |
discussion today about issues like immigration, membership of -- our | 0:49:34 | 0:49:39 | |
membership to the heat -- to the EU, how we will deal with the terrorist | 0:49:39 | 0:49:43 | |
threat, these are substantial issues that need to be debated so | 0:49:43 | 0:49:47 | |
that people know what the position is if Scotland were to be separate. | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
We have heard nothing from the SNP of the detail of was separation | 0:49:51 | 0:49:56 | |
will mean and that is our challenge to them cute -- a challenge to | 0:49:56 | 0:50:02 | |
them: come and show us what a separate Scotland will look like. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
What currency will use? How will the deal with international | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
terrorist threat? This could be a rather self-defeating argument, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:15 | |
because that she says that Scotland will have to relax border controls, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:21 | |
the same could equally apply to England and Wales. The position is | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
that as a member state -- that a member state of the EU has never | 0:50:25 | 0:50:29 | |
broken up before in the way that the SNP are proposing to break up | 0:50:29 | 0:50:36 | |
Britain, so they do not have the answers to these big questions. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:46 | |
0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | ||
now there do you. -- needed to you. I am not making the case for | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
Scotland to be broken out of the rest of Britain. I want things to | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
carry on as they are. I think Scotland has a good deal with in | 0:50:55 | 0:51:01 | |
the UK, a good deal within Europe, I think Scotland is protected from | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
international threats because it is part of the UK. I am not making the | 0:51:05 | 0:51:11 | |
case for Scotland to be separate. The SNP are, it is for them to | 0:51:11 | 0:51:14 | |
answer these questions as to what as separate Scotland would look | 0:51:14 | 0:51:19 | |
like. Theresa May was trying to point out that mass emigration has | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
had a huge impact on public sector has Mac public services. This kind | 0:51:24 | 0:51:30 | |
of top does not go down well in Scotland. -- of torque. I think | 0:51:31 | 0:51:36 | |
people are concerned to understand what will happen in a separate | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Scotland on big issues like immigration and whether people in | 0:51:39 | 0:51:42 | |
Scotland will require a passport to go to other parts of the United | 0:51:42 | 0:51:47 | |
Kingdom, what our relationship with the EU will be. A lot of these | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
issues have not been discussed in Scotland because we had been part | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
of the United Kingdom. They will become issues if we are a separate | 0:51:54 | 0:51:59 | |
Scotland. It is now at that time for the SNP to set out clearly what | 0:51:59 | 0:52:04 | |
a separate Scotland will look like. Let us move on to what the Prime | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Minister was saying -- saying yesterday. If you are the party's | 0:52:07 | 0:52:12 | |
sole MP. Did you feel the party was chided by the Prime Minister for | 0:52:12 | 0:52:19 | |
poor performances over the past 20 years? We all recognise in the | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
Scottish Conservative Party that we have to do better and we have this | 0:52:22 | 0:52:27 | |
capacity to do better. We have a new, young leader who is | 0:52:27 | 0:52:31 | |
revitalising the party organisation, announcing shortly some big changes | 0:52:31 | 0:52:39 | |
in policy. During our leadership election, we as a party as a whole | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
it recognised the difficulties that we have had and the issues we have | 0:52:43 | 0:52:47 | |
to face, but what the Prime Minister also said yesterday it was | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
that this fight to keep Scotland in the United Kingdom gives our party | 0:52:51 | 0:52:54 | |
here in Scotland are renewed sense of purpose. It gives us something | 0:52:54 | 0:52:59 | |
to be out there on the doorsteps campaigning on, and that is what we | 0:52:59 | 0:53:09 | |
intend to do. As the Prime Minister said, you are trying to attract | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
that mother in Angus, that entrepreneur in Glasgow, but how | 0:53:12 | 0:53:17 | |
can you realistically do that? Annabel Goldie put all our efforts | 0:53:17 | 0:53:23 | |
into trying to attract that support but it has not worked. One of the | 0:53:23 | 0:53:29 | |
reasons that it has not work -- worked, is that a lot of people had | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
been voting SNP on the basis that they were pursuing Conservative | 0:53:32 | 0:53:37 | |
policies, policies like freezing council tax, police numbers, low | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
business rates, but what people are beginning to understand is that | 0:53:41 | 0:53:46 | |
voting SNP is not about getting policies delivered, it is about | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
breaking up Britain. That is one of the big message is that we want to | 0:53:49 | 0:53:54 | |
get over. If you what Conservative policies and you want to stay in | 0:53:54 | 0:54:00 | |
the United Kingdom, the way to do that is to vote Conservative. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
Prime Minister accused Alex Salmond of dithering, of hold a referendum | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
in the autumn of 2014. If you read the Scotsman today, it seems that | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
the Prime Minister is willing to go for 2014 as long as there is only | 0:54:13 | 0:54:19 | |
one question. Is that true? We want the legal, fair and decisive | 0:54:19 | 0:54:25 | |
referendum. The sooner the better. Alex Salmond's whole reason has | 0:54:25 | 0:54:32 | |
been having a referendum on independence. Now he wants one in | 0:54:32 | 0:54:37 | |
2014 and has given it no substantive reason for why we | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
should -- it should be delayed. All the procedures should be completed | 0:54:41 | 0:54:47 | |
by next autumn and we could have a referendum in 2013. He should get | 0:54:47 | 0:54:51 | |
on with it. We are ready. The Prime Minister has said it very clear | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
that we are up for this fight, let's get on with it and end the | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
uncertainty and to know whether it Scotland is to be part of Britain | 0:54:58 | 0:55:04 | |
or is to be separate. What happened after the fight? I AM confused as | 0:55:04 | 0:55:12 | |
to what Ruth Davidson's line in the sand meant about new powers. As the | 0:55:12 | 0:55:19 | |
SNP said, it is quite a pig in a whole. What the SNP are offering is | 0:55:19 | 0:55:25 | |
a pig in a pork, because they are supposedly a party that wants | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
independence and now having never participated in the previous | 0:55:28 | 0:55:32 | |
constitutional commission, they are starting to bring on issues about | 0:55:32 | 0:55:37 | |
more powers, which they say they do not believe him. What we're done as | 0:55:37 | 0:55:43 | |
a Conservative Party here in Scotland is we have said that we | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
would deliver recommendations and that a Conservative Prime Minister | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
has delivered the Scotland Bill which will bring forward the | 0:55:50 | 0:55:55 | |
biggest transfer of financial powers to Scotland in 300 years. | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
But his David Cameron's record on devolution. The SNP have never been | 0:56:00 | 0:56:04 | |
previously interested in more powers. They say they are | 0:56:04 | 0:56:08 | |
interested in independence, if they are, let us have that referendum | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
and let Scotland decide. Do you think the Scotland Bill is a Trojan | 0:56:13 | 0:56:20 | |
horse? I think that the Scotland Bill is a well thought-out piece of | 0:56:20 | 0:56:24 | |
legislation which will make the Scottish Parliament financially | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
accountable to the people of Scotland. When I served in the | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
Scottish Parliament, the issue was always the fact that the Parliament | 0:56:30 | 0:56:34 | |
was focused on how to spend money, it was not focused on how that | 0:56:34 | 0:56:38 | |
money was raised. This will make the Scottish Parliament more | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
financially accountable to the people of Scotland and I think VAT | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
is a significant change. But ultimately it is up to the people | 0:56:46 | 0:56:50 | |
in Scotland as to whether they want more powers for the Scottish | 0:56:50 | 0:56:54 | |
Parliament. David Cameron has said that he is open to more powers but | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
at this moment there is no proposal on the table for more powers. What | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
we want to do is get ahead, get the referenda out of the way, let the | 0:57:03 | 0:57:08 | |
people of Scotland decide and then at that time there will be plenty | 0:57:09 | 0:57:11 | |
of scope to discuss whether the Parliament should have other powers. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:17 | |
Thank you very much. The conference debate on the | 0:57:17 | 0:57:21 | |
economy was introduced as being even more important than | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
constitutional issues. Yesterday's session brought a mixture of | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
politicians and business people to the podium to argue the case for | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
tackling the national debt, reforming public services and | 0:57:31 | 0:57:38 | |
focusing on economic growth. Scotland's Corp -- competition and | 0:57:38 | 0:57:42 | |
market place are global and so our benchmark must be global, and on a | 0:57:42 | 0:57:47 | |
global scale our economy is not performing. This is no surprise | 0:57:47 | 0:57:53 | |
with Scotland's public sector is so heavily weighted, and in Scotland's | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
funding and to deliver a models for public services are so centralised | 0:57:57 | 0:58:03 | |
and inefficient. This is no wonder when the current and previous | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
administrations in Holyrood have demonstrated so little strategic | 0:58:06 | 0:58:11 | |
ambition in investing in our infrastructure. The fix requires | 0:58:11 | 0:58:17 | |
bold vision, courage, and the willingness to put aside short-term | 0:58:17 | 0:58:21 | |
political agendas and invest strategically for the long term. It | 0:58:21 | 0:58:26 | |
also means recognising that to compete in the global economy, size | 0:58:26 | 0:58:31 | |
matters. We should do everything possible to me for the numerous | 0:58:31 | 0:58:36 | |
advantages of being part of a strong United came does. In a | 0:58:36 | 0:58:41 | |
global world, that is the world will be all of them, independence | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
would mean economic suicide for Scotland. Ladies and gentlemen, I | 0:58:45 | 0:58:55 | |
support the motion. Thank you. APPLAUSE. I can only hope that the | 0:58:55 | 0:58:57 | |
British Government looks to more entrepreneur's for advice on to | 0:58:57 | 0:59:02 | |
help new businesses in ways other than simply providing funding. At | 0:59:02 | 0:59:04 | |
the end of the day, if our Government is trying to encourage | 0:59:05 | 0:59:09 | |
us to go out into the world and create an empire, they are not | 0:59:09 | 0:59:13 | |
supporting us to do so or giving us the relevant support and that can | 0:59:13 | 0:59:17 | |
only have a detrimental affect on the loyalty that youngsters feel | 0:59:17 | 0:59:21 | |
towards their Government. It is essential that the right people are | 0:59:21 | 0:59:24 | |
employed to award support and funding to future generations and I | 0:59:24 | 0:59:29 | |
sincerely feel that this needs to be looked at. The way that the SNP | 0:59:29 | 0:59:34 | |
are running things up here is simply not working for those small | 0:59:34 | 0:59:38 | |
and medium-size enterprises that Britain is so keen to nurture. I am | 0:59:38 | 0:59:42 | |
now at this stage of opening her first shop, which is obviously very | 0:59:42 | 0:59:46 | |
exciting, not just because it will be my first job but because I can | 0:59:46 | 0:59:49 | |
finally pack in the restaurant job that I have had to keep myself | 0:59:49 | 0:59:56 | |
afloat for the last two years. I am very proud of all I have achieved, | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
however high have never considered myself to be an entrepreneur and | 0:59:59 | 1:00:02 | |
will be simply someone told me that this was indeed how he perceived me. | 1:00:02 | 1:00:08 | |
I told him I considered of -- Richard Branson and not -- that I | 1:00:08 | 1:00:12 | |
considered Richard Branson and entrepreneur. He said, you're still | 1:00:12 | 1:00:18 | |
in entrepreneur, it has not yet a successful one. However, I am only | 1:00:18 | 1:00:28 | |
1:00:28 | 1:00:34 | ||
25 and have plenty of time it to The fun -- funding is crucial. At | 1:00:34 | 1:00:38 | |
me moment, the traditional engine for funding is not working, the | 1:00:38 | 1:00:48 | |
banks. 6.5% on overdraft to be reviewed every month and that from | 1:00:48 | 1:00:56 | |
a state-supported bang. Finding suppliers is just as support and. - | 1:00:56 | 1:01:01 | |
- just as supporting -- just as important. Much more focused | 1:01:01 | 1:01:05 | |
support is necessary if the potential contribution my | 1:01:05 | 1:01:13 | |
generation can make to our country's future can be realised. | 1:01:13 | 1:01:17 | |
Emily, I was listening carefully to your speech and I hope what was so | 1:01:17 | 1:01:20 | |
today it will be heard throughout Scotland. You made a strong and | 1:01:20 | 1:01:29 | |
clear message to the Scottish government. Let's not forget, and | 1:01:29 | 1:01:33 | |
this government went to get, that we all need entrepreneurs to get | 1:01:33 | 1:01:38 | |
growth. But we also need government to get behind those entrepreneurs. | 1:01:38 | 1:01:43 | |
Just look at the steps we are taking in Scotland, some of which | 1:01:43 | 1:01:50 | |
the Prime Minister mentioned earlier. Enhanced capital earners. | 1:01:50 | 1:01:58 | |
And the potential to deliver more jobs. As Alan mentioned, measures | 1:01:58 | 1:02:01 | |
that will stimulate billions of pounds of additional investment in | 1:02:01 | 1:02:10 | |
oil and gas. A huge boost for investment in the North Sea. Making | 1:02:10 | 1:02:15 | |
Edinburgh a super connected city, delivering ultra-fast broadband and | 1:02:15 | 1:02:19 | |
high-speed wireless connectivity. Corporation tax relief on video | 1:02:19 | 1:02:25 | |
games which will be particularly good news for Dundee and a tax | 1:02:25 | 1:02:30 | |
extension on the Commonwealth Games. But also, there are the steps we | 1:02:30 | 1:02:34 | |
are taking across the UK. In the teacher, in my area of tax. From | 1:02:34 | 1:02:39 | |
time to time, we receive representations from the Scottish | 1:02:39 | 1:02:42 | |
government that they would like corporation tax to be devolved. | 1:02:42 | 1:02:47 | |
They say that if they had power over corporation tax, they would | 1:02:47 | 1:02:51 | |
take great steps to make Scotland more competitive. The details, I | 1:02:51 | 1:02:55 | |
have to say, tend to be a little fuzzy. There is not much | 1:02:55 | 1:02:59 | |
information out how the tax would be collected or calculated would | 1:02:59 | 1:03:03 | |
stop they tend to brush over the fact that the overwhelming view of | 1:03:03 | 1:03:06 | |
business is that different corporation tax regime in Scotland | 1:03:06 | 1:03:10 | |
compared to the rest of the UK would create unwelcome | 1:03:10 | 1:03:16 | |
administrative burdens. And there is not a word about a cut -- how a | 1:03:16 | 1:03:19 | |
cut in corporation tax would be paid for. A cynic might point out | 1:03:19 | 1:03:24 | |
that when the Scottish nationalists get their hands on a tax like | 1:03:24 | 1:03:27 | |
business like business rates, they are more likely to put it up, not | 1:03:27 | 1:03:32 | |
down. For some years, I have heard Scottish nationalists say that if | 1:03:32 | 1:03:39 | |
we had a corporation tax of 28%, the opportunities for Scotland | 1:03:39 | 1:03:44 | |
would be glorious. Well, when we came to power, corporation tax was | 1:03:44 | 1:03:49 | |
20% and we started cutting it, first to 26%. Next month, it will | 1:03:49 | 1:03:56 | |
be 24%. By 2014, it will be 22%, within sight of 20%. Thought- | 1:03:56 | 1:04:00 | |
through, costed and sustainable. This government is giving Scotland | 1:04:01 | 1:04:10 | |
1:04:11 | 1:04:12 | ||
and the whole of the United England -- cannot -- United Kingdom and the | 1:04:12 | 1:04:20 | |
competitive edge we need. I'd run a B&B and I have been nominated as | 1:04:20 | 1:04:27 | |
running the friendlies B&B in 2012. -- friendliest. It does show that | 1:04:27 | 1:04:31 | |
even the smallest micro business can get recognition if you put your | 1:04:31 | 1:04:35 | |
mind to it. I would just like to end with a short quote. Someone | 1:04:35 | 1:04:41 | |
said to me earlier I should quote Churchill. I'm going to quote | 1:04:41 | 1:04:46 | |
Stanley Baldwin. A long time ago, I know. But just listen to these two | 1:04:46 | 1:04:50 | |
sentences. There are four words and one syllable, each are words which | 1:04:50 | 1:04:55 | |
contain salvation for this country. There are faith, hope, love and | 1:04:55 | 1:05:01 | |
work. And no government in this country today which has not faith | 1:05:01 | 1:05:06 | |
in people, hope in the future, enough for its fellow men and which | 1:05:06 | 1:05:11 | |
won't work and work and work will ever bring this country through to | 1:05:11 | 1:05:19 | |
better days and better times. Thank you, conference. It was the economy | 1:05:19 | 1:05:26 | |
debate in the true in all. We should cross there shortly before | 1:05:26 | 1:05:33 | |
Ruth Davidson's conference speech. -- Troon. Ruth took over in | 1:05:33 | 1:05:39 | |
November. What progress have the Tories being making in the polls? | 1:05:39 | 1:05:43 | |
Clearly, there is a hope that with Ruth Davidson, the party would | 1:05:43 | 1:05:49 | |
indeed achieve progress, progress which has been entirely lacking | 1:05:49 | 1:05:53 | |
since 1997. The truth is that so far, there are any signs in the | 1:05:53 | 1:05:56 | |
opinion polls of this progress being achieved. Love for the most | 1:05:56 | 1:06:04 | |
recent opinion polls, as far as voting intentions are concerned, | 1:06:04 | 1:06:10 | |
the party is starting at 16%. In Holyrood, it is 13%. The truth is | 1:06:10 | 1:06:15 | |
that so far, the Conservatives in Scotland under Ruth Davidson's | 1:06:15 | 1:06:19 | |
Ladyship art in exactly the same large black hole they have been in | 1:06:19 | 1:06:23 | |
for some considerable time. The truth is that most people do not | 1:06:23 | 1:06:28 | |
yet know who Ruth Davidson his and have little ideas about her and her | 1:06:28 | 1:06:33 | |
policies. This morning's speech is important because it is a high- | 1:06:33 | 1:06:36 | |
profile event for her to try and get across to the Scottish public | 1:06:36 | 1:06:40 | |
who she is and what she stands for. Would you things and that consent | 1:06:40 | 1:06:44 | |
will be? She will be tried to explain who she is but what other | 1:06:44 | 1:06:49 | |
contexts might we be hearing? are two things to look out for. One | 1:06:49 | 1:06:54 | |
thing this party has the message on is that if you're going to sell | 1:06:54 | 1:07:00 | |
anything in Scothern, you have too rapid in the Saltire, not the Union | 1:07:00 | 1:07:04 | |
Jack. You have to be proud of the Saltire but still be part of the | 1:07:04 | 1:07:10 | |
Union. This argument that he wanted the Scottish is being commenced | 1:07:10 | 1:07:13 | |
that -- commensurate with being in favour with the union is something | 1:07:13 | 1:07:18 | |
they will argue. We will see whether Ruth Davidson will put | 1:07:18 | 1:07:23 | |
flesh on that idea. What are the arguments as to why those who feel | 1:07:23 | 1:07:27 | |
strongly Scottish should be in favour of the Union? Why do the | 1:07:27 | 1:07:32 | |
correct Scottishness? Undoubtedly, Ruth Davidson is much more willing | 1:07:32 | 1:07:36 | |
than Annabel Goldie to embrace some of the ideas that using much more | 1:07:36 | 1:07:39 | |
of a market approach to the delivery of public services. I'll | 1:07:39 | 1:07:43 | |
be interested to see whether she repeats things she said earlier | 1:07:43 | 1:07:48 | |
this month about, for example, adopting the policies of free | 1:07:48 | 1:07:53 | |
schools, of greater involvement of the private sector in the delivery | 1:07:53 | 1:07:57 | |
of the Health Service, something which has proved extremely | 1:07:57 | 1:08:01 | |
conservative -- extremely controversial south of the border. | 1:08:01 | 1:08:06 | |
We also accept it is there something about although she may be | 1:08:06 | 1:08:09 | |
reluctant to -- for the Scottish Polla to have more power, it looks | 1:08:09 | 1:08:15 | |
as though she might be saying that if they do get these powers, we | 1:08:15 | 1:08:19 | |
indeed may be interested in using those powers to reduce the level of | 1:08:19 | 1:08:24 | |
income tax in Scotland. You may have heard David ducks say what is | 1:08:24 | 1:08:28 | |
the point of tax bias because we are already delivering lower | 1:08:28 | 1:08:35 | |
corporation tax. But Ruth Davidson might say that they should campaign | 1:08:35 | 1:08:41 | |
on the basis of having a lower income tax in Scotland will adopt | 1:08:41 | 1:08:46 | |
we are going to the hall very shortly in Troon. They are playing | 1:08:46 | 1:08:52 | |
Abdo to introduce her. There is Theresa May, the Home Secretary | 1:08:52 | 1:08:56 | |
going to introduce her. She is taking to the steps now. She will | 1:08:56 | 1:09:03 | |
introduce Ruth Davidson, the new Tory leader. Ladies and gentlemen, | 1:09:03 | 1:09:08 | |
our Prime Minister David Cameron, the Cabinet, we all know what a | 1:09:08 | 1:09:11 | |
fantastic job Ruth Davidson has been doing as your leader. Just | 1:09:12 | 1:09:16 | |
look, in the last few weeks, she has pressed for city status for | 1:09:16 | 1:09:20 | |
Perth, she has pressed for tax breaks for, what game athletes and | 1:09:20 | 1:09:25 | |
for support for the computer games industry. I can tell you | 1:09:25 | 1:09:28 | |
unreservedly that Ruth Davidson is fighting Scotland's corner. Ladies | 1:09:28 | 1:09:34 | |
and gentlemen, please welcome the leader of the Scottish | 1:09:34 | 1:09:44 | |
1:09:44 | 1:10:06 | ||
I think you left your whisky! Actually, it is pretty good! Good | 1:10:06 | 1:10:12 | |
afternoon, conference. Hasn't it been a fantastic weekend. Hasn't it | 1:10:12 | 1:10:15 | |
been so fantastic to see the support we have from the four | 1:10:15 | 1:10:19 | |
corners of our United Kingdom. To see proper debate back at | 1:10:19 | 1:10:24 | |
conference. To see so many MPs and ministers, cabinet ministers | 1:10:24 | 1:10:29 | |
joining us here in Troon. And of course, a man who is a true | 1:10:29 | 1:10:34 | |
supporter of our party in Scotland, our cause here in Scotland, our | 1:10:34 | 1:10:44 | |
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Prime Minister, our Conservative Prime Minister at David Cameron. -- | 1:10:49 | 1:10:56 | |
High Mr David Cameron. More than that, it is fantastic to see a | 1:10:56 | 1:11:01 | |
party that has renewed, reinvigorated and up for the fight | 1:11:01 | 1:11:05 | |
ahead. A party that is changing with its eyes firmly fixed on the | 1:11:05 | 1:11:09 | |
future and all that it can bring. As our mission is about more than | 1:11:09 | 1:11:12 | |
simply restoring the electoral fortunes of these cottages | 1:11:12 | 1:11:17 | |
Conservatives, although there is our goal. More fundamental, it is | 1:11:17 | 1:11:24 | |
to reclaim the voice for mainstream Scotland. When you are elected me | 1:11:25 | 1:11:30 | |
leader of our party, I promised root and branch reform, Eira -- I | 1:11:30 | 1:11:34 | |
promised reform in the way in which we operate and how we communicate. | 1:11:35 | 1:11:39 | |
That reform is well under way. Of the aged recommendations put | 1:11:39 | 1:11:43 | |
forward by the Sanderson Commission and adopted by our party, 73 have | 1:11:43 | 1:11:47 | |
been completed or are in the presence of completion. We have a | 1:11:47 | 1:11:52 | |
new structure at the top, new ways of speaking with members and a | 1:11:52 | 1:11:55 | |
recruitment drive is seeing results. In the last four months, our | 1:11:55 | 1:12:00 | |
results have gone from fewer than 9,000 paid-up members to more than | 1:12:00 | 1:12:10 | |
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I played a greater role for that membership in the determination of | 1:12:14 | 1:12:18 | |
policy and they promised to bring back proper debate within our ranks. | 1:12:18 | 1:12:21 | |
From the robust such as we have seen this weekend, it is pretty | 1:12:21 | 1:12:25 | |
clear there is no shortage of opinion. That is the way it should | 1:12:25 | 1:12:29 | |
be. But it is not enough. Two further drive forward our policy | 1:12:29 | 1:12:33 | |
review, I am announcing the membership of our new board. | 1:12:33 | 1:12:40 | |
Journey on our border will be Stewart Stevenson, Scottish Lynsey, | 1:12:40 | 1:12:46 | |
John Lamont and one about best known and committed campaigners Ian | 1:12:46 | 1:12:52 | |
McGill. We are conducting the coldest review of our policies | 1:12:52 | 1:12:59 | |
since devolution. We have groups representing the business | 1:12:59 | 1:13:02 | |
communities and rural interests, teachers, professionals, and with | 1:13:02 | 1:13:06 | |
communities the length and breadth of Scotland. This is no small body | 1:13:06 | 1:13:10 | |
of work and it will feed into the board. We will be there to listen, | 1:13:10 | 1:13:15 | |
to listen to you at conference, to listen to our policy reviews, to | 1:13:15 | 1:13:18 | |
listen to expert opinion across Scottish public life, to learn from | 1:13:18 | 1:13:24 | |
across the world what can work better here in Scotland. And | 1:13:24 | 1:13:27 | |
together, we will build a set of policies that meet the challenges | 1:13:27 | 1:13:31 | |
of our age and which reflect the aspirations of the modern Scott and. | 1:13:32 | 1:13:35 | |
There are several further reforms in which power NUM members will | 1:13:35 | 1:13:40 | |
play a central role. I want to share them with you today. As we | 1:13:40 | 1:13:43 | |
map out a fresh and positive direction for the concert -- for | 1:13:43 | 1:13:46 | |
the Scottish Conservatives, we must match that with a fresh and | 1:13:46 | 1:13:52 | |
positive image for our party. So, this will be the last Scottish | 1:13:53 | 1:13:56 | |
Conservative conference where it will be -- where we will use our | 1:13:56 | 1:14:01 | |
existing branding. Will consult with you on proposals for our | 1:14:01 | 1:14:06 | |
dynamic new logo and image. Secondly, to be sure we're in the | 1:14:06 | 1:14:12 | |
best shape to fight elections, counsel, European and Western and | 1:14:12 | 1:14:17 | |
parliamentary, we will be consulting on the future structure | 1:14:17 | 1:14:20 | |
of our grass roots organisations. We must be a campaigning forced to | 1:14:20 | 1:14:22 | |
better deliver our message and nannies to be at the core of all we | 1:14:23 | 1:14:27 | |
do and how we shake ourselves. Thirdly, we must review our | 1:14:27 | 1:14:31 | |
candidate selection as a ranking process for Holyrood. We must make | 1:14:31 | 1:14:34 | |
sure that all the talented people in our ranks can play their full | 1:14:34 | 1:14:38 | |
part as we take a party forward. To help these me -- to help me in | 1:14:38 | 1:14:42 | |
these areas, I can think of no one loves the party will, no one who | 1:14:42 | 1:14:46 | |
more appreciate the strength we have and seize the opportunities of | 1:14:46 | 1:14:51 | |
what we can be, then our party's deputy leader Jackson Carlow and I | 1:14:51 | 1:14:56 | |
have asked him to take the lead on these issues. Jackson, we are right | 1:14:56 | 1:15:06 | |
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And on the issues that mattered to Scotland, there will be debate, | 1:15:10 | 1:15:14 | |
there must be robust debate, because politics is not about cosy | 1:15:15 | 1:15:23 | |
consensus on every issue is, it is about a class of -- clash of ideas. | 1:15:23 | 1:15:26 | |
We will reach out to reconnect with that the thousands of people who | 1:15:27 | 1:15:31 | |
share our values but have stopped voting for us, or perhaps never | 1:15:31 | 1:15:36 | |
have. We will not get our support from hiding our light under a | 1:15:36 | 1:15:42 | |
bushel, by saying nothing to offend, by apologising for being | 1:15:42 | 1:15:46 | |
Conservatives. No more shy Tories, we must never be afraid to speak | 1:15:46 | 1:15:56 | |
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out. I APPLAUSE. There are moments in history when it falls to a group | 1:16:02 | 1:16:05 | |
of people to take a stand. If to say what they believe in with | 1:16:05 | 1:16:11 | |
conviction, with passion, with right on their side. To know that | 1:16:11 | 1:16:14 | |
however allowed to their detractors will try to shed them down, they | 1:16:14 | 1:16:18 | |
will not be diverted from their course. Knowing that they speak for | 1:16:18 | 1:16:23 | |
the silent majority of the fellow men and women and that they shall | 1:16:23 | 1:16:28 | |
prevail. Conference, this is our town, a moment, our duty and a | 1:16:28 | 1:16:33 | |
column. Let me repeat what I told you last night. The next 1000 days | 1:16:33 | 1:16:37 | |
will shape the future of our country for ever. This is a battle | 1:16:37 | 1:16:41 | |
that we must win and that be will win. We will settle the separation | 1:16:41 | 1:16:47 | |
question. That question of separation is the elephant in the | 1:16:47 | 1:16:51 | |
room that is dominating Scottish politics. Often to the exclusion of | 1:16:51 | 1:16:57 | |
everything else. We have an SNP that is so obsessed with separation | 1:16:57 | 1:17:00 | |
that it is abdicating its responsibilities to the job it was | 1:17:00 | 1:17:09 | |
elected to do. On the day went youth unemployment figures crashed | 1:17:09 | 1:17:15 | |
through the 1000 barrier, the highest Scotland has ever seen, | 1:17:15 | 1:17:21 | |
where was the First Minister? Not at his desk, but down south at the | 1:17:21 | 1:17:26 | |
London School of Economics agitating for the job that he wants, | 1:17:26 | 1:17:29 | |
President of a separate Scottish state. That was bad enough but it | 1:17:29 | 1:17:36 | |
gets worse. All around Scotland, he is letting people down. Yesterday, | 1:17:36 | 1:17:42 | |
in this poll, we held -- heard from Emily Lamb, at great example of the | 1:17:42 | 1:17:45 | |
bright young entrepreneurial talent every country needs. She told us | 1:17:45 | 1:17:49 | |
that she was frustrated and felt let down by our devolved Government. | 1:17:49 | 1:17:55 | |
As she put it, the way that the SNP is running things up here is simply | 1:17:55 | 1:18:00 | |
not working for the small and medium-sized enterprises that the | 1:18:00 | 1:18:05 | |
United Kingdom is so keen to nurture. Alex Salmond, get back to | 1:18:05 | 1:18:15 | |
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your desk and get on with the job if she were elected to do. APPLAUSE. | 1:18:19 | 1:18:24 | |
It is not just Scottish business that is being ignored, abandoned | 1:18:24 | 1:18:28 | |
and neglected. It is the people of Scotland and the public services | 1:18:28 | 1:18:31 | |
they are reliant. This week, I spoke to a young man who e-mailed | 1:18:31 | 1:18:40 | |
me about the desperate need fought our cancer ward in Scotland. He | 1:18:40 | 1:18:46 | |
says, I lost my mum in 2001 to cancer. Watching someone so full of | 1:18:46 | 1:18:53 | |
life - it was painful to watch. How the -- her death has had a profound | 1:18:53 | 1:18:57 | |
effect upon the and that is why I joined Cancer Research UK, so I can | 1:18:57 | 1:19:00 | |
make sure that no one again will have to make sure -- will have to | 1:19:00 | 1:19:06 | |
go through what my mum went through. I believe that with the greater | 1:19:06 | 1:19:10 | |
availability of cancer drugs, my mother would be here today. | 1:19:10 | 1:19:13 | |
Scotland has a poor record when it comes to cancer and the need | 1:19:13 | 1:19:18 | |
radical change. I believe that this change can come from a cancer drugs | 1:19:18 | 1:19:23 | |
fund. Those are the words of a 17- year-old boy who is desperately | 1:19:23 | 1:19:26 | |
hard time and working to make a difference. He has been let down. | 1:19:27 | 1:19:32 | |
We cannot allow others to put the future of their country on hold | 1:19:32 | 1:19:37 | |
whilst they pursue their own agenda. So Alex, get back to your desk and | 1:19:37 | 1:19:47 | |
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get back to the job that you were elected to do. APPLAUSE. I wish | 1:19:51 | 1:19:56 | |
that these were isolated cases, but they are not. The SNP's eye is of | 1:19:56 | 1:19:59 | |
the ball. It is as if they do not want to use the powers they have | 1:19:59 | 1:20:03 | |
got because it would prove that they have far more powers to use. | 1:20:03 | 1:20:09 | |
Take justice. There has been some progress -- progress, largely due | 1:20:09 | 1:20:12 | |
to the extra police that we delivered, but there is still so | 1:20:12 | 1:20:17 | |
much to do. Five years after coming to power, and still no action from | 1:20:17 | 1:20:22 | |
the SNP on ending the automatic early release scheme, which under | 1:20:22 | 1:20:28 | |
the nationalists has freed nearly 35,000 convicts from Scotland's | 1:20:28 | 1:20:32 | |
jails after serving just half of their services. That is 35,000 | 1:20:32 | 1:20:36 | |
criminals freed and able to commit more crimes, create more needless | 1:20:36 | 1:20:41 | |
victims, when they should still be bought locked up for public safety. | 1:20:41 | 1:20:44 | |
Surely the SNP have taken a more robust approach to community | 1:20:45 | 1:20:49 | |
sentencing? Let me tell you the facts. Nearly one-third of the | 1:20:49 | 1:20:56 | |
SNP's community pay back orders are opposed with no work reply it -- | 1:20:56 | 1:21:01 | |
work requirement whatsoever. Half of supervised attendance orders are | 1:21:01 | 1:21:06 | |
breached by those serving them. So that is the SNP's approach to | 1:21:06 | 1:21:10 | |
sentencing. If you're convicted you will serve on behalf of your | 1:21:10 | 1:21:14 | |
service. If you're given a non- custodial sentence, there is every | 1:21:14 | 1:21:18 | |
chance you will never have to do a day's work to pay back to society, | 1:21:18 | 1:21:23 | |
and if you preach these terms, do not worry, the SNP have abolished | 1:21:23 | 1:21:28 | |
short-term prison sentences. Conference, the SNP stands guilty | 1:21:28 | 1:21:32 | |
without the criminal neglect of our justice system. They are guilty as | 1:21:32 | 1:21:42 | |
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charged. APPLAUSE. It is time for sentences to mean what they say. | 1:21:45 | 1:21:51 | |
For five years to mean five years. For 10 years to mean it tenures. In | 1:21:51 | 1:21:55 | |
Scotland we need a whole life order, because sometimes life should mean | 1:21:55 | 1:22:05 | |
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exactly that, life in prison with no chance of ever being released. | 1:22:09 | 1:22:14 | |
That is what I mean about dividing lines in politics. And let us look | 1:22:14 | 1:22:18 | |
at child care. The SNP say they what provision to rise to 600 hours | 1:22:18 | 1:22:23 | |
per year. Fine words, but let us look at their actions. We have | 1:22:23 | 1:22:28 | |
heard it all before. Five years ago they promised a 50% rise in child | 1:22:28 | 1:22:33 | |
care and respect was five years failing to deliver. During that | 1:22:33 | 1:22:36 | |
time, the number of pre-school places has dropped each and every | 1:22:37 | 1:22:41 | |
year. A quarter of registered creches have closed in the last two | 1:22:41 | 1:22:46 | |
years alone. In Scotland's classrooms, there are nearly 4,000 | 1:22:46 | 1:22:50 | |
fewer teachers then when the SNP came to power and one and five | 1:22:50 | 1:22:55 | |
newly qualified teachers find themselves without a job. Alex, get | 1:22:55 | 1:22:59 | |
back to your desk, get back to you work and do the job you were | 1:22:59 | 1:23:09 | |
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elected to do. APPLAUSE. Because one thing is now abundantly clear. | 1:23:12 | 1:23:16 | |
For the separate us, there is only one game in town. As we look | 1:23:16 | 1:23:21 | |
forward to may's elections, we know what that game is. We have seen it | 1:23:21 | 1:23:26 | |
before. They will pretend it is all about local issues for local people, | 1:23:26 | 1:23:29 | |
this from a nationalist party that wants to centralise everything. But | 1:23:29 | 1:23:34 | |
as soon as the if -- as soon as the votes are counted they will claim | 1:23:34 | 1:23:38 | |
that every ballot is a cast iron vote for separation, because the | 1:23:38 | 1:23:43 | |
nationalists only have their eyes on one prize. They do not want a | 1:23:43 | 1:23:47 | |
better Scotland, just a separate Scotland. So to our local council | 1:23:47 | 1:23:51 | |
candidates, I say this. Call for would confident that we will settle | 1:23:51 | 1:23:56 | |
the question and that we are the true party of localism and real | 1:23:56 | 1:23:59 | |
devolution. Devolving power from Holyrood to people and communities | 1:23:59 | 1:24:04 | |
across Scotland. This is another fundamental dividing line between | 1:24:04 | 1:24:07 | |
the Scottish Conservatives and their opponents. They want to | 1:24:07 | 1:24:11 | |
gather more power in the hands of the few. We want to deliver power | 1:24:11 | 1:24:16 | |
into the hands of the many. So vast reseated delivered evolution at | 1:24:16 | 1:24:21 | |
local level, it is us, at the Conservatives, who are delivering a | 1:24:21 | 1:24:24 | |
further devilish and now for the people of Scotland. The Scotland | 1:24:24 | 1:24:28 | |
Bill will soon bring the biggest transfer of fiscal powers to | 1:24:28 | 1:24:32 | |
Scotland since the creation of the United Kingdom. New powers of a | 1:24:32 | 1:24:38 | |
stamp duty, at landfill tax, income tax. We must focus our attention on | 1:24:38 | 1:24:43 | |
using the powers we have and the new powers that are coming to build | 1:24:43 | 1:24:47 | |
a better Scotland. While the new tax powers are still some time away, | 1:24:47 | 1:24:51 | |
now is the time to think about how they can and should use to. As | 1:24:51 | 1:24:56 | |
Conservatives, our view is clear. To cut the tax burden faced by | 1:24:56 | 1:25:01 | |
individuals and businesses. Leaving more money in the pockets of Scots. | 1:25:01 | 1:25:05 | |
Encouraging more businesses to expand to create more and better | 1:25:05 | 1:25:11 | |
paid jobs in every corner of the country. Clearly, the scope for | 1:25:11 | 1:25:14 | |
cutting income tax will depend on the economic climate and the state | 1:25:14 | 1:25:18 | |
of public finances. But let there be no doubt, lowering the overall | 1:25:18 | 1:25:23 | |
tax burden is our ambition. A dividing line between Conservatives | 1:25:23 | 1:25:27 | |
to trust people to spend more of their own money to grow the economy | 1:25:27 | 1:25:32 | |
and the others who do not. Sono Alex, it is not a penny for | 1:25:32 | 1:25:36 | |
Scotland, it is pounds for people's pockets and that is the | 1:25:36 | 1:25:46 | |
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Conservative way. APPLES. applause. We are building a party | 1:25:51 | 1:25:55 | |
that is brimming with new talent and fresh ideas. We are ready, | 1:25:55 | 1:26:00 | |
willing and able to tackle the new issues facing Scotland. We will | 1:26:00 | 1:26:04 | |
never face sight of the here and now. We know that there is no more | 1:26:04 | 1:26:08 | |
important issue than Scotland's continued place within the United | 1:26:08 | 1:26:14 | |
Kingdom. Our position is clear. We are for the union. Scotland is | 1:26:14 | 1:26:18 | |
better off in Britain and we do not Defence Scotland's place in the | 1:26:18 | 1:26:22 | |
United Kingdom by compromising with the forces of separatism. So no red | 1:26:22 | 1:26:28 | |
ballots and no second questions. A clear choice for at the people of | 1:26:28 | 1:26:32 | |
Scotland. In or out of the Union. I United Kingdom or a separate | 1:26:32 | 1:26:36 | |
Scotland. It is a choice that the Scottish people must be given as | 1:26:36 | 1:26:43 | |
quickly as possible. Delayed damages business. More and more | 1:26:43 | 1:26:48 | |
people are asking the question, why the delay, Alex? What is going on? | 1:26:48 | 1:26:54 | |
I will tell you what I think. Ego before party, party before country. | 1:26:54 | 1:27:04 | |
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There is a growing army who do not agenda is to break up Britain be | 1:27:06 | 1:27:12 | |
working so hard to avoid putting a single, straight question to the | 1:27:12 | 1:27:17 | |
country? But that is not a Conservative Way. A legal, a freer, | 1:27:17 | 1:27:23 | |
decisive referendum. We must settle the referendum question -- this | 1:27:23 | 1:27:33 | |
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separation question. The APPLAUSE. The treaty of Union bind our | 1:27:33 | 1:27:36 | |
nations together and set them on a shared path which has endured for | 1:27:36 | 1:27:41 | |
more than three centuries. The United Kingdom is a shining example | 1:27:41 | 1:27:45 | |
to the world of estate that gathers together an array of nationalities | 1:27:45 | 1:27:51 | |
and peoples. Ours is an optimistic message. We support the Union | 1:27:51 | 1:27:54 | |
because Scotland's strings bolster those of the other nations within | 1:27:54 | 1:28:00 | |
it. It is about Corporation. It is about the whole being greater than | 1:28:00 | 1:28:07 | |
the sum of its parts. Giselle thick -- celebrate the fact that our | 1:28:07 | 1:28:11 | |
identity is not rigid but is open for all to share them. The | 1:28:11 | 1:28:14 | |
diversity of the United Kingdom and the strength of the cultural | 1:28:15 | 1:28:19 | |
enrichment that we draw from that is what it make -- what makes it | 1:28:19 | 1:28:24 | |
unique and to be prized. Breaking up the union would only serve to | 1:28:24 | 1:28:29 | |
narrow Scotland's ambitions. Embracing a British identity does | 1:28:29 | 1:28:33 | |
not will cost of one ounce of our proud Scottish us, it simply adds | 1:28:33 | 1:28:40 | |
an extra dimension to it. I union is a partnership. Our out looks are | 1:28:40 | 1:28:45 | |
not always identical, we sometimes argued and recognise the necessity | 1:28:45 | 1:28:49 | |
of compromise, but we know that we get far more from sticking together | 1:28:49 | 1:28:54 | |
than they would from standing apart. The ties that draw our nation | 1:28:54 | 1:28:59 | |
together are many and they have developed over time. For some, they | 1:28:59 | 1:29:04 | |
are deeply cultural. For others, they are a respect for the | 1:29:04 | 1:29:10 | |
institutions of our state, a monarch a, our armed forces. For | 1:29:10 | 1:29:19 | |
others they are economic. If we are rightly proud of the history of the | 1:29:19 | 1:29:26 | |
Union, it is to the future that we must raise our eyes. Scotland and | 1:29:26 | 1:29:29 | |
Britain is not an exercise in nostalgia. It is positive and | 1:29:29 | 1:29:34 | |
forward-looking, together for good. It is about the way we interact -- | 1:29:34 | 1:29:40 | |
interact with the rest of the world. It is about the advantages that | 1:29:40 | 1:29:44 | |
come from an integrated economy. The Solidarity we have through the | 1:29:44 | 1:29:51 | |
welfare state and the pulling of risks and rewards. To believe in | 1:29:52 | 1:29:56 | |
the Union of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, is not | 1:29:56 | 1:30:02 | |
an exercise in timidity, it is a statement of confidence that as a | 1:30:02 | 1:30:05 | |
nation Scotland Act should continue to play a role in the world beyond | 1:30:05 | 1:30:10 | |
our size and the number of our people. It is a belief that our | 1:30:10 | 1:30:14 | |
progress as a society is best served through continued | 1:30:14 | 1:30:17 | |
partnership with in our family of nations. That will be our message | 1:30:17 | 1:30:22 | |
over the coming months. To get that for good. Scotland is better off in | 1:30:22 | 1:30:30 | |
Britain. To those who want to break apart, I say, the respect of you | 1:30:30 | 1:30:40 | |
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To supporters who accrued us, I say join us. We are positive that our | 1:30:47 | 1:30:52 | |
destinies are best served together, together for good. A strong | 1:30:52 | 1:30:57 | |
Scotland and a strong Britain. Pride in our past, faith in our | 1:30:57 | 1:31:01 | |
future and an unshakeable conviction that our best days still | 1:31:01 | 1:31:07 | |
lie ahead. Friends, I promise you that in our council chambers, at | 1:31:07 | 1:31:11 | |
Holyrood, at Westminster and in Europe, we will keep our eye on the | 1:31:11 | 1:31:16 | |
ball, fighting for a fairer deal, standing up and being counted on | 1:31:16 | 1:31:20 | |
the issues that matter day to day but equally, and this is my vow, | 1:31:20 | 1:31:25 | |
when it comes to the very future of the country that I laugh, I won't | 1:31:25 | 1:31:32 | |
falter. As Conservatives, where we need to lead, we will lead, where | 1:31:32 | 1:31:38 | |
we need to join, we would join, and where we need to fight, we won't be | 1:31:38 | 1:31:42 | |
found wanting. There are things that divide us but there are | 1:31:42 | 1:31:49 | |
aspects that can join us also. Scotland's calls is bigger than | 1:31:49 | 1:31:55 | |
anyone political party. So I say, Scotland expects us to work | 1:31:55 | 1:32:00 | |
together and we are. Scotland expects us to lead and we will. | 1:32:00 | 1:32:05 | |
Scotland expects us to put aside our differences and pooled together | 1:32:05 | 1:32:09 | |
for the common cause, to give a voice to the silent majority, to | 1:32:09 | 1:32:13 | |
build a chorus across a nation. Today, we stand on the brink of | 1:32:13 | 1:32:18 | |
history, the world is watching. This is a cause and we won't be | 1:32:18 | 1:32:23 | |
found wanting. We will add our sound to the millions of voices | 1:32:23 | 1:32:29 | |
declaring as one a strong Scotland in a strong Britain. Together, for | 1:32:29 | 1:32:39 | |
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but. Conference, let's get to work. The Scottish Conservative leader | 1:32:50 | 1:32:55 | |
Ruth Davidson receiving a standing ovation in the hall at Troon after | 1:32:55 | 1:33:00 | |
her very first conference speech. She was introduced by the Home | 1:33:00 | 1:33:03 | |
Secretary Theresa May. Ruth Davidson are promised a new and | 1:33:03 | 1:33:06 | |
reinvigorated party. She said no more shy Tories. She accused the | 1:33:06 | 1:33:11 | |
SNP of taking the eye of the ball to focus on the referendum. He | 1:33:11 | 1:33:15 | |
promised a new Scotland Bill and Tories would cut taxes. She said | 1:33:15 | 1:33:19 | |
she was standing four-square behind a union and that she would give the | 1:33:19 | 1:33:24 | |
boys to the silent majority the stop I am joined by Professor John | 1:33:24 | 1:33:27 | |
Curtice of Strathclyde University was stopped John, your immediate | 1:33:27 | 1:33:33 | |
reaction to that. Her first speech as they do. A rather surprisingly | 1:33:33 | 1:33:36 | |
short speech. I think, in some sense, it showed the difficulty of | 1:33:37 | 1:33:41 | |
the situation she has inherited. On the one hand, she has committed her | 1:33:41 | 1:33:45 | |
party to a policy review. At the beginning of this beach, we had | 1:33:45 | 1:33:48 | |
some detail about how it will be organised. That meant there was | 1:33:48 | 1:33:53 | |
very little about what is the current Scottish Conservative | 1:33:53 | 1:33:58 | |
policy and vision for the year. There was the idea that when | 1:33:58 | 1:34:04 | |
Scotland has its own income tax powers, a much reduce it. A strong | 1:34:04 | 1:34:12 | |
attack on the SNP's criminal- justice system. Still, with | 1:34:12 | 1:34:15 | |
relatively little on the domestic double to politics, despite a very | 1:34:15 | 1:34:19 | |
strong attack on the SNP for not paying enough attention to it. The | 1:34:19 | 1:34:22 | |
second thing maybe the most important message of the space. She | 1:34:22 | 1:34:26 | |
has inherited a situation where her party, together with Labour and | 1:34:26 | 1:34:31 | |
Liberal Democrats, are wanting to defend the Union. She was to be | 1:34:31 | 1:34:36 | |
combated but actually, she needs to become part of a wider pro-union | 1:34:36 | 1:34:39 | |
organisation and the end of that speech was a very strong state and | 1:34:39 | 1:34:42 | |
that although she does have are differences with the Liberal | 1:34:43 | 1:34:51 | |
Democrats, she very clearly feels that her immediate objective is to | 1:34:51 | 1:34:55 | |
collaborate with the other Unionist parties to create a strong pro- | 1:34:55 | 1:35:00 | |
union campaign. She was saying that some of the party warfare will have | 1:35:00 | 1:35:04 | |
to be put on hold for a while in order to achieve this figure | 1:35:04 | 1:35:14 | |
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projected. Achieve this bigger objective. She has given other | 1:35:15 | 1:35:20 | |
speeches in where we have a clear idea about the degree to which she | 1:35:20 | 1:35:25 | |
wants to change the Health Service and education. On the other hand, | 1:35:25 | 1:35:29 | |
still, nobody could get any doubt about her style. She clearly is say | 1:35:29 | 1:35:34 | |
to her party, we should not be timid. We should declare what we | 1:35:35 | 1:35:39 | |
stand for. We should go on the basis of that. I think all that it | 1:35:39 | 1:35:43 | |
is not necessarily clear from this speech, I think we're probably | 1:35:43 | 1:35:46 | |
anticipating that under Ruth Davidson, the Conservative Party is | 1:35:46 | 1:35:50 | |
probably going to move something to the right in Scotland. It will | 1:35:50 | 1:35:54 | |
occupy much more distinctive policy spaces with respect to have | 1:35:54 | 1:35:58 | |
Scotland should be run. She is someone who believes her party will | 1:35:58 | 1:36:02 | |
revive by not as it were going to was the centre of Scottish politics | 1:36:02 | 1:36:07 | |
and try to accommodate the new Conservative Party to the Scottish | 1:36:07 | 1:36:11 | |
electorate. Rather, her strategy will be to say firmly this is what | 1:36:11 | 1:36:14 | |
we believe in and by the way, we believe in different things from | 1:36:14 | 1:36:18 | |
both Labour and the SNP in Scotland. Although the star was there today, | 1:36:18 | 1:36:24 | |
I think the substance was missing because she is just about to go | 1:36:24 | 1:36:27 | |
through a policy review and this time this next year -- this time | 1:36:27 | 1:36:33 | |
next year, we may get some more flesh on the bones. Just the very | 1:36:33 | 1:36:38 | |
beginning of the speech, it was parish pump stuff, to a | 1:36:38 | 1:36:43 | |
housekeeping duties. But you think that is significant. She is trained | 1:36:43 | 1:36:48 | |
to put her individual stamp on it. It is worth bearing in mind that in | 1:36:48 | 1:36:55 | |
the same way as the Labour Party leader John Lamont, that was a | 1:36:55 | 1:36:59 | |
change agreed before she became leader, equally, because it is | 1:36:59 | 1:37:03 | |
agreed that Annabel Goldie's successor would be the leader of | 1:37:03 | 1:37:07 | |
the whole of the Conservative Party has got and and she has inherited | 1:37:07 | 1:37:10 | |
that position. She is indeed responsible for running because of | 1:37:10 | 1:37:13 | |
a party in Scotland and I think undoubtedly, we are looking to see | 1:37:14 | 1:37:17 | |
what policies the Conservative Party is going to launch a loss of | 1:37:17 | 1:37:21 | |
the border. Certainly looking through the names of the people she | 1:37:21 | 1:37:25 | |
is going to look at, they are people who are known to be | 1:37:25 | 1:37:31 | |
associated quite closely with her. This is the policy board, the Ruth | 1:37:31 | 1:37:36 | |
Davidson wing of the party that is now firmly in control of his party. | 1:37:36 | 1:37:42 | |
She is selling her party members they can have the debate. -- she is | 1:37:43 | 1:37:49 | |
telling her party members. Thank you. Let's go back over to Brian | 1:37:49 | 1:37:56 | |
for more reaction from the delegates in the hall. Thank you. I | 1:37:57 | 1:38:02 | |
am joined by Annabel Goldie, the Auld bird, as you describe yourself | 1:38:02 | 1:38:06 | |
last night. What did you make of your successor's speech? I thought | 1:38:06 | 1:38:12 | |
it was absolutely inspiring. I am not just saying no. It was full of | 1:38:12 | 1:38:15 | |
passion and purpose. She laid down a very clear message of what she | 1:38:15 | 1:38:20 | |
was to deliver and she also laid out the heart of what the | 1:38:20 | 1:38:23 | |
Conservatives believe is the United Kingdom. That will be the | 1:38:23 | 1:38:30 | |
touchstone for everything they are doing. There is this business about | 1:38:30 | 1:38:33 | |
that the Shaikh, did apologise, end the ringing of hands. What do you | 1:38:33 | 1:38:38 | |
make of that? They are saying the gloves are off. The battle-lines | 1:38:38 | 1:38:43 | |
are drawn. People are coming up to me in the street saying, we want to | 1:38:43 | 1:38:47 | |
stop this independence drive, what are you doing about it? Both David | 1:38:47 | 1:38:57 | |
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Cameron and won have Bradley said the moment is here, -- both David | 1:38:58 | 1:39:08 | |
Cameron and Ruth have said the moment is here. I am a Scot who | 1:39:08 | 1:39:11 | |
sits for the Conservatives in Westminster. I am passionate about | 1:39:11 | 1:39:16 | |
defending the junior. The purpose is about getting jobs in Scotland | 1:39:16 | 1:39:20 | |
and getting people in Scotland back to work. We can only do that with | 1:39:20 | 1:39:23 | |
stability. Uncertainty over the future does not give us that | 1:39:23 | 1:39:29 | |
stability. A no compromise with the nationalists. How do you interpret | 1:39:29 | 1:39:34 | |
that? I interpret that as meaning they will be no compromise with the | 1:39:34 | 1:39:39 | |
nationalists. We are the premiere Unionist Party in a spot of. We | 1:39:39 | 1:39:45 | |
will work with other parties to ensure that the union is not broken. | 1:39:45 | 1:39:49 | |
You are say you are the premier union party? Isn't that they to | 1:39:49 | 1:39:53 | |
aggravate Labour and the Liberal Democrats and in the same breath, | 1:39:53 | 1:39:58 | |
you are calling them to work with you? I think they can make the same | 1:39:58 | 1:40:05 | |
claim I have made. If they are, they can show us how it is done. | 1:40:05 | 1:40:10 | |
You are asking Eddie joined you. this will be a campaign that is | 1:40:10 | 1:40:14 | |
genuinely across the parties. People across Scotland will be | 1:40:14 | 1:40:19 | |
invited to take part in that. We have to make sure this has got an's | 1:40:19 | 1:40:24 | |
campaign. Annabel Goldie, another big issue from Ruth Davidson. When | 1:40:24 | 1:40:28 | |
the tax part of the Bill is placed, when the circumstances are right, | 1:40:28 | 1:40:32 | |
she is talking about cutting income tax in Scotland. That could be | 1:40:32 | 1:40:37 | |
popular here but Mark's was it just aren't going to welcome that in | 1:40:37 | 1:40:42 | |
England. Already, the reality of devolution is that over a whole | 1:40:42 | 1:40:46 | |
range of things, with the powers that we have, we do things | 1:40:46 | 1:40:49 | |
differently. I think Mark and his colleagues in Westminster | 1:40:49 | 1:40:53 | |
understand that. That is the reality of devolution. The new | 1:40:53 | 1:40:56 | |
powers coming through with his got and built, I think they are very | 1:40:57 | 1:41:00 | |
important for the Scottish Parliament and will give it this | 1:41:00 | 1:41:02 | |
combination of not just responsibility for spending money | 1:41:02 | 1:41:07 | |
but some degree of accountability and responsibility for raising the | 1:41:07 | 1:41:11 | |
money, I think is an important discipline and that is what will be | 1:41:12 | 1:41:16 | |
interesting to see how some of the other parties like the SNP make of | 1:41:16 | 1:41:21 | |
that. Mark, how would you explain to your constituents south of the | 1:41:21 | 1:41:26 | |
border that the Scots can cut income tax? My constituents would | 1:41:26 | 1:41:31 | |
Tissier prospers -- a prosperous got there. If we can see tax cuts | 1:41:31 | 1:41:35 | |
taking place that make saw that an attractive place for investments, | 1:41:35 | 1:41:42 | |
my constituents will welcome that. What we want to do is to be able to | 1:41:42 | 1:41:46 | |
make Scotland a haven for investments. Companies are worried | 1:41:46 | 1:41:49 | |
about coming to Scotland at the moan because they don't know what | 1:41:49 | 1:41:52 | |
Alex Salmond's plans are. We need to get that out of the way a get | 1:41:52 | 1:42:00 | |
jobs going in Scotland. That offer, essentially cutting taxation when | 1:42:00 | 1:42:05 | |
it is founded upon the taxation bill going through but the former | 1:42:06 | 1:42:11 | |
Secretary said that he regarded the Scotland Bill as a Trojan horse. | 1:42:11 | 1:42:15 | |
think the Scotland Bill is essential. We need is the ability | 1:42:15 | 1:42:19 | |
in Scotland. The problem for constituents south of the border | 1:42:19 | 1:42:22 | |
and their concern over spending is governed is they feel that money is | 1:42:22 | 1:42:27 | |
being spent here that it is not being raised here. That is not the | 1:42:27 | 1:42:31 | |
case. We need to be demonstrated more clearly. That is what the tax | 1:42:31 | 1:42:41 | |
changes in Scotland are all about. An inspired view. And a new logo, | 1:42:41 | 1:42:50 | |
as well? What would be your choice for a new logo? A tree? That is | 1:42:50 | 1:42:57 | |
putting me in the spot. I am not going to fall foul of my new leader. | 1:42:57 | 1:43:01 | |
These are important steps for the party to take. They will be | 1:43:01 | 1:43:04 | |
significant, not just for the negative. I thought the most | 1:43:04 | 1:43:09 | |
powerful thing she said the members was that unless you exist in a | 1:43:09 | 1:43:13 | |
campaign and advance the political arguments that we as Conservatives | 1:43:13 | 1:43:17 | |
believe in and show the dividing lines and the dividing line between | 1:43:17 | 1:43:21 | |
us and the other parties. She is saying it is moribund in some | 1:43:21 | 1:43:27 | |
areas? No, she is saying that the party needs to look at the whole | 1:43:27 | 1:43:31 | |
issue of political campaigning. We believe in different policies to | 1:43:31 | 1:43:36 | |
other parties, let's get out and sing that song lads and clear. | 1:43:36 | 1:43:41 | |
on this point of organisation, some would say it is shovelling the | 1:43:41 | 1:43:45 | |
chairs but do you think it is important? Yes, Scottish party is | 1:43:45 | 1:43:49 | |
not as strong as it used to be. We need to work together. Colleagues | 1:43:50 | 1:43:53 | |
south of the border like myself will be doing that. We need good | 1:43:53 | 1:43:57 | |
Scots coming forward and offering themselves for public service. | 1:43:57 | 1:44:01 | |
Don't leave it to someone else. If you are a conservative and you | 1:44:01 | 1:44:05 | |
think you can play a part, come forward and do it. On the same | 1:44:05 | 1:44:10 | |
point, candidate selection, she is obviously planning some big changes. | 1:44:10 | 1:44:14 | |
Yes, indeed. The fact that she thinks the big changes are needed | 1:44:14 | 1:44:19 | |
means she things there was a problem in the past. What is that | 1:44:19 | 1:44:23 | |
problem? The problem was that we were too conservative, we were | 1:44:23 | 1:44:30 | |
resistant to change. We are now adapting to the political party -- | 1:44:30 | 1:44:34 | |
climate in Scotland. These changes mean we can go forward and engage | 1:44:34 | 1:44:37 | |
with a whole new generation of young Scots. These are young Scots | 1:44:37 | 1:44:42 | |
were here this week. We have thousands of new members playing | 1:44:42 | 1:44:46 | |
their role in that. Joss-sticks burning, the helicopter above, | 1:44:46 | 1:44:54 | |
there is a demonstration organised and the helicopters are keeping an | 1:44:54 | 1:45:02 | |
eye on them and probably just as well. Now, during a debate during | 1:45:02 | 1:45:07 | |
energy policy, delegates had fully read and Westminster in their sides. | 1:45:07 | 1:45:13 | |
The stellar wind farm development across got and also came in for | 1:45:13 | 1:45:23 | |
I believe that the current construction of so many wind farms, | 1:45:23 | 1:45:27 | |
or onshore and offshore, is the most are seriously damaging and | 1:45:27 | 1:45:37 | |
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destructive policy being inflicted on Scotland today. APPLAUSE. It is | 1:45:39 | 1:45:47 | |
a damaging policy for many reasons. Firstly, it damages our industry | 1:45:47 | 1:45:51 | |
where Claridge increases in the price of energy which threatens | 1:45:51 | 1:45:57 | |
competitiveness. We are in a delicate economic recovery rates | 1:45:57 | 1:46:03 | |
and purpose in making our industry uncompetitive is madness. Our | 1:46:03 | 1:46:08 | |
environment is damaged by the loss of truly beautiful places. Some | 1:46:08 | 1:46:15 | |
figures show that in 2002, 40% of our wild places remain in Scotland. | 1:46:15 | 1:46:21 | |
By 2009, those had reduced to 28%. Sadly, there are no up-to-date | 1:46:21 | 1:46:27 | |
figures, but for sure it has got worse. My own brief on our council | 1:46:27 | 1:46:33 | |
is planning and environment. I want to support this motion because wind | 1:46:33 | 1:46:38 | |
farms at giant con. Figures from the Department of Energy and | 1:46:38 | 1:46:43 | |
climate change sure that wind farms in the United Kingdom earned 1,100 | 1:46:43 | 1:46:48 | |
million pounds for their owners. A �500 million of this was | 1:46:48 | 1:46:57 | |
electricity, �600 million of this was subsidy. Who pays the subsidy? | 1:46:57 | 1:47:03 | |
A householder. During the winter, there are times when less than 1% | 1:47:03 | 1:47:10 | |
of our electricity needs are generated from wind farms. But, | 1:47:10 | 1:47:14 | |
hang on, at the lights didn't go out, did they? Know they did not. | 1:47:15 | 1:47:20 | |
Because there have to be back-ups - - back-up stations, gas or coal. | 1:47:20 | 1:47:25 | |
And as these power stations switched on and off, the use more | 1:47:25 | 1:47:29 | |
fuel and admit more carbon in exactly the same way as when you're | 1:47:29 | 1:47:39 | |
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driving your car. So the car in is getting emitted in bigger | 1:47:40 | 1:47:45 | |
quantities. That is not being green. And the person who is paying for it | 1:47:46 | 1:47:51 | |
is the householder. Fuel poverty is rising and the Eco zealots at think | 1:47:51 | 1:48:01 | |
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it is fine. It is not. APPLAUSE. am not and you wind farm. I think | 1:48:01 | 1:48:06 | |
they are all right if they are in the right place. And if people and | 1:48:06 | 1:48:09 | |
the planners and the Government listen to local communities. I do | 1:48:10 | 1:48:15 | |
not just say that because my son at belts wind farms, but I have two | 1:48:15 | 1:48:21 | |
main issues here. One was raised by Anne Cowan. That is that despite | 1:48:21 | 1:48:26 | |
what local communities say, now I represent the area that is the last | 1:48:26 | 1:48:32 | |
wilderness in Europe. Tourism is our main industry in the Highlands. | 1:48:32 | 1:48:38 | |
20% of Dot -- of jobs are in hospitality. People do have serious | 1:48:38 | 1:48:42 | |
concerns in the Highlands and Islands about where wind farms are | 1:48:42 | 1:48:47 | |
and the effect on tourism and the effect on their lives. These are | 1:48:47 | 1:48:52 | |
not unreasonable people and they are not people who are anti- wind | 1:48:52 | 1:48:56 | |
farm 100%. They are reasonable people putting forward reasonable | 1:48:56 | 1:49:01 | |
views to their elected members and the elected members vote against | 1:49:01 | 1:49:06 | |
the wind farms, the communities have petitions and petitions | 1:49:06 | 1:49:11 | |
against the wind farms, but they know in their Hearts that when that | 1:49:11 | 1:49:15 | |
application get to the Scottish Government, because of the pursuit | 1:49:15 | 1:49:20 | |
of renewable targets, their voices will not be heard. I do not think | 1:49:20 | 1:49:24 | |
there is anybody here who is anti- renewable energy. I think we have | 1:49:24 | 1:49:29 | |
seen the role of renewable energy has to play, whether it is Hydro, | 1:49:29 | 1:49:39 | |
biomass, alter our technologies. I think there are many people who on | 1:49:39 | 1:49:43 | |
a small-scale pieces would except wind onshore or offshore. But what | 1:49:43 | 1:49:48 | |
people are fed up with is the headlong rush into onshore wind | 1:49:48 | 1:49:55 | |
farm development. I am joined now from Troon by the | 1:49:55 | 1:50:00 | |
Scottish Conservative leader of Ruth Davidson. Congratulations on | 1:50:00 | 1:50:04 | |
your maiden speech to conference. I would like a bit more detail | 1:50:04 | 1:50:11 | |
about... Not my maiden speech! would like a little bit more detail | 1:50:11 | 1:50:15 | |
about this umbrella group that you're trying to forge with it the | 1:50:15 | 1:50:19 | |
other Unionist parties. You were setting out your stall as the | 1:50:19 | 1:50:23 | |
premier Unionist Party in asking others to join you. What we have | 1:50:23 | 1:50:28 | |
done at this conference is unveil our own campaign group called | 1:50:28 | 1:50:35 | |
Conservative friends to the union and asked people, anyone who wants | 1:50:35 | 1:50:39 | |
to help campaign, as we said yesterday we will link that in with | 1:50:39 | 1:50:43 | |
the umbrella group when it comes forward. I said today that the | 1:50:43 | 1:50:47 | |
people of Scotland are looking for all political leaders of Tunis | 1:50:47 | 1:50:52 | |
parties to work together and that is what I plan to do. So will we | 1:50:52 | 1:50:55 | |
get arable Goldie working with Alistair Darling? Is that the top | 1:50:55 | 1:51:00 | |
of the umbrella group? You know you're fishing for information and | 1:51:00 | 1:51:07 | |
I do not think I am the right person to give it you. I will be | 1:51:07 | 1:51:12 | |
working with John Lamond and David Mundell from my own party to make | 1:51:12 | 1:51:18 | |
sure that there is a concerted you that all unionists across Scotland | 1:51:18 | 1:51:21 | |
and the ANC political leadership in this. What is more important in | 1:51:21 | 1:51:25 | |
this is that it is not just about people who are members of political | 1:51:25 | 1:51:31 | |
parties, it is about civic Scotland as well. It is about academics, the | 1:51:31 | 1:51:37 | |
business community, just ordinary voters who are happy and proud to | 1:51:37 | 1:51:41 | |
be Scottish, may even feel more Scottish than British, but they | 1:51:41 | 1:51:45 | |
still feel British to and they do not want that British part of them | 1:51:45 | 1:51:53 | |
taken away. You work Topping in your speech and you accused -- you | 1:51:53 | 1:51:58 | |
accused Alex Salmond of dithering. You're not paying much heed to the | 1:51:58 | 1:52:05 | |
Westminster consultation on this. We have seen a good response to the | 1:52:05 | 1:52:12 | |
Westminster consultation. I have always said that I want to see a | 1:52:12 | 1:52:15 | |
question put to the people of Scotland because I think delay is | 1:52:15 | 1:52:18 | |
damaging business. We have had a number of businesses come out and | 1:52:19 | 1:52:28 | |
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say the very same thing. Are they are saying that this sort of delay | 1:52:30 | 1:52:36 | |
is damaging business. What you are actually promising and in terms of | 1:52:36 | 1:52:40 | |
more powers for Scotland. David Cameron said yesterday that he was | 1:52:40 | 1:52:46 | |
open to the transfer of more powers. Are you are open-minded about that? | 1:52:46 | 1:52:50 | |
Because David Cameron pulled the rug from underneath your famous | 1:52:50 | 1:52:57 | |
line in the sand which you announced last November. What I was | 1:52:57 | 1:53:01 | |
saying last summer or when I was talking about the Scotland Bill was | 1:53:01 | 1:53:05 | |
that the most important thing was to get that bill it in and working | 1:53:05 | 1:53:09 | |
on the ground to see that massive transfer of powers that is coming | 1:53:09 | 1:53:13 | |
and I am pleased to see this week that we have an agreement between | 1:53:13 | 1:53:16 | |
Scotland's two governments that these powers will be transferred. | 1:53:16 | 1:53:20 | |
It is the biggest transfer of fiscal power in more than 300 years | 1:53:21 | 1:53:25 | |
and as I was saying today, let us look at using those powers. I | 1:53:25 | 1:53:31 | |
aspire for Scotland to be a look at -- low-tax economy. What more | 1:53:31 | 1:53:36 | |
powers could there be? You were saying yesterday that will be | 1:53:36 | 1:53:41 | |
announced after the referendum. It is it surprising we have no general | 1:53:41 | 1:53:45 | |
overall strategic approach to the United Kingdom or a full also be | 1:53:45 | 1:53:53 | |
about what powers there could be. think the question here is about | 1:53:53 | 1:53:57 | |
what Scotland wants. Does it want a separate Scottish state or does it | 1:53:57 | 1:54:00 | |
want to be part of a devolved United Kingdom? That is the | 1:54:01 | 1:54:06 | |
question. Then if there are calls from other people and to debates | 1:54:06 | 1:54:09 | |
within political parties, debates going on across so that Scotland, | 1:54:09 | 1:54:14 | |
in people's houses round the dinner people about whether they want more | 1:54:14 | 1:54:23 | |
powers or not, then let us look at that. As far as I see it, there is | 1:54:23 | 1:54:33 | |
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no consensus. I am keen to see what it is that Scotland wants. | 1:54:34 | 1:54:38 | |
people like Alex Ferguson are supporting that all --. Looking at | 1:54:38 | 1:54:44 | |
the Scotland Bill, you are looking quite centre right. In other | 1:54:44 | 1:54:54 | |
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speeches you have made... How does that go down in Scotland? I empt | 1:54:55 | 1:54:58 | |
the leader of a centre-right party so I hardly think that is a | 1:54:58 | 1:55:06 | |
revelation or their headline of the day! I think I was quite clear in | 1:55:06 | 1:55:10 | |
the speech when I said that we need to look at what the economic | 1:55:10 | 1:55:15 | |
situation is in Scotland, but as a centre-right party we aspire to use | 1:55:15 | 1:55:20 | |
the tax varying powers that be have in Scotland for to lower taxes. | 1:55:20 | 1:55:30 | |
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were also talking about a reform of the party. As the former Tory MSP | 1:55:30 | 1:55:35 | |
said, if the party was a faithful old found it to be on the way to | 1:55:35 | 1:55:40 | |
the vet to be cut out of its misery. Do you think it is the end of the | 1:55:40 | 1:55:48 | |
road? Can you attract new voters? think the only people who got put | 1:55:48 | 1:55:53 | |
out of the Conservative Party was Brian Monteith! The opinions that | 1:55:53 | 1:55:56 | |
are in caring about his change in the party and I was given a mandate | 1:55:56 | 1:56:06 | |
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to change the party. We have got people coming to our party. When I | 1:56:07 | 1:56:11 | |
was elected there were fewer than 9,000 members, we now have more | 1:56:11 | 1:56:17 | |
than 11,000 members. I hope very much that we can use the platform | 1:56:17 | 1:56:21 | |
at the local Government elections as the next stage in our revival in | 1:56:21 | 1:56:27 | |
Scotland, I do think when it comes to this issue... Our support for | 1:56:27 | 1:56:32 | |
the United Kingdom is in our DNA. Are you more Scottish or more | 1:56:32 | 1:56:38 | |
British? I am Scottish, I am British, I'm conservative and I'm | 1:56:38 | 1:56:43 | |
proud of all three. It does not matter to people out there in which | 1:56:43 | 1:56:47 | |
proportion they are, but if they want to stay part of Britain and to | 1:56:48 | 1:56:50 | |
know what Alex Salmond to take their Britishness away from them, | 1:56:50 | 1:56:56 | |
they will vote to save the Union. Thank you very much. | 1:56:56 | 1:57:01 | |
Just time for one final thought in the company of Professor John | 1:57:01 | 1:57:07 | |
Carter's. Any thoughts on that? There are a couple of things I will | 1:57:07 | 1:57:10 | |
take from this. One is that the Conservatives are acknowledging | 1:57:10 | 1:57:14 | |
that most people in Scotland are at more likely to feel Scottish than | 1:57:14 | 1:57:18 | |
Britain but also appreciate that people of Scotland also feel | 1:57:18 | 1:57:22 | |
British and the are opening -- hoping to strengthen that sense of | 1:57:22 | 1:57:25 | |
Britishness and appealed to that for to build their case for the | 1:57:25 | 1:57:32 | |
union. The second thing I take from this is I am still not very clear | 1:57:32 | 1:57:36 | |
and I do not think the public are very clear as to where the | 1:57:37 | 1:57:39 | |
Conservatives stand on whether or not Scotland might have more | 1:57:39 | 1:57:44 | |
devolved power within the Union. We are told it seems that we are not | 1:57:44 | 1:57:49 | |
going to be told anything before 2014, your Ruth Davidson has | 1:57:49 | 1:57:53 | |
suggested that she wants to wait to see how the powers are in effect | 1:57:53 | 1:57:58 | |
which is not until 2016. At the same time, she also said yesterday | 1:57:58 | 1:58:03 | |
that she is thinking of building policy proposals that will be in | 1:58:03 | 1:58:07 | |
the Conservative's 2015 manifesto. That does not all add up. It is | 1:58:07 | 1:58:12 | |
difficult to believe that you can have a policy that you would not | 1:58:12 | 1:58:16 | |
announce before 2014 and you certainly cannot announce that | 1:58:16 | 1:58:19 | |
policy for the 2015 manifesto if you have to wait for the Scotland | 1:58:19 | 1:58:24 | |
Bill powers to be introduced in 2016. I think in truth the | 1:58:24 | 1:58:28 | |
Conservatives still need to get their act together on this issue. | 1:58:28 | 1:58:38 | |
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