24/03/2012 Scottish Conservative Party Conference


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Good afternoon and a very warm welcome to our live coverage of the

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Scottish Conservatives' conference in Troon. The party faithful are

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gathering in the courtroom. We will hear from Ruth Davidson making her

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first conference speech as leader. She would say there will be no

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compromise with the SNP in the battle to keep the union. With me

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in the studio is Professor John Curtice and our man beside the

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seaside is Brian Taylor, our political editor. Thank you for

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joining me. This is Ruth Davidson's maiden speech to conference. I

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suppose we are expecting a stout defence of the union again. I think

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we are. She has picked a lovely place for it. That is Troon harbour,

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we have planes flying above and bobbies on bikes. We've even got

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police horses but in terms of transport, the path ahead for Ruth

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Davidson is definitely Scotland staying within the Union. Thank you

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very much. John Curtice, 12 months ago, Ruth Davidson didn't even know

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she was going to be elected as an MSP and now she is speaking to the

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conference. It has been a major effect rise. F -- a meteoric rise.

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The financial allegations made to the person who was number one long

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does the's list, it meant Rees became a number one and became a

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elected leader. The other thing we are looking for his have defect --

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her defence of the union but also her road map for the party is

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Gordon. What does she regard her as her priorities? She is quite a

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radical right-wing politician. She has some very clear views that

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Scotland's public services should be delivered a very different from

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the way they are at the moment. True might be used to tourists but

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this weekend, the Tories had descended. They have turned up to

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hear the Prime Minister launched a robust defence of his party's

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values and argued it was time to take the fight to the nationalists.

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Their share is synonymous with Gulf, often a frustrating sport, not

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unlike politics. One day, you can't miss, the next, nothing goes down.

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For the Tories, the last few elections have seen few successes

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so time to change technique. One person certainly thinks so. Let's

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be frank, we aren't will be one to be in Scotland. We are nowhere near

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it. There are those who think this is just a fact of life, that a

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small Conservative presence north of the border is inevitable. I am

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resolutely not one of those people. I am here today to argue that this

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could be Alamo rent. If we are bold enough to come back stronger. --

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this could be Alamo and. This is a nation founded on thrift and graft,

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paying your way,. There is a profound belief in personal

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responsibility. And there is a passionate belief in family,

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community and country. For Conservatives looking at these

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qualities, looking at these values, it is like booking in the mirror.

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They hour -- they are our qualities and our values. He said they could

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be proud of their message. More conservative. The time for timidity

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is over. Enough of the hand- wringing and trying to be all

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things to all people. Let's be clear about what we stand for and

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what we won't put up with. suggested the Conservatives could

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help their party by saving the union. We have led the SNP claimed

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ownership of patriotism. But it is the symbol of a nation, not one

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political party. You can be even prouder of your Scottish heritage

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as of yore British heritage as many in Scotland up and still believe

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that Scotland is better off in Britain. But he won't leave -- lead

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the Conservative campaign. The one and only Annabel Goldie. Thank

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goodness we have found something for the old bird to do! I have to

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tell you, ladies and gentlemen, there is no will to which I would

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more readily put my shoulder and to keeping a school -- a strong

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Scotland within a strong Britain. Also lending their shoulders, a

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line-up of lords and ladies, friends of the Union. All of us,

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Scottish, English, Northern Irish and Welsh, we need to show just

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what this relationship means to us. And that Scotland is better off in

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Britain and Britain is better off in Scotland. By driving through a

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programme of separatism, saying we have to drag Scotland out and say

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the Scottish identity into a place by ourselves, you are doing

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violence to part of the identity of every Scotsman's. There is a

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British component in the identity of every Scotsman and two separate

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that or to try and bring about separation is to do violence to

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people's own sense of identity and this is not a good thing to do in

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any event. Controversial talk from the winner of a noble Pre's prize.

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-- a Nobel Peace Prize. Here, they used to make gun boats so it is a

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fitting location for a party who says it is ready for the fight of

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the future. It is one thing all this rhetoric, they still have an

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awful lot of work to do to sweeten Let's go back to Professor John

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Curtice from Strathclyde University and Brian Taylor beside the seaside.

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Brian, some of the Tory press this morning were saying that the Prime

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Minister gave the Tories quite a chiding because he was saying stop

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the hand-wringing and stop the timidity. What is your assessment

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of the speech? No, not a chiding butts and exultation. I think it is

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keeping with the approach that Ruth Davidson take. I believe that she

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was encouraging him down that path. The path of saying that she, as a

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young leader, does not remember Margaret Thatcher being in office.

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It is time for the party and the Scot and, basically, to get over

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that period and to think in a different way. I also agree with

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John Kerr it is about the approach she would take two policies. I

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think she would say that should there be substantial tax powers,

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once those tax powers of through and in place for the Scottish

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Parliament, she will be in favour of cutting income tax in Scotland.

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If you think that the logic of the Conservative position it is only

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with substantial powers in the Scottish Power's, Ace of sexual

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ground upon which to play that you can credibly -- a substantial

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ground on which to play that you can credibly argue for lowering tax.

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This was the big appeal, trying to attract Scots who might be

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interested in the centre right policies, but they just can't reach

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out and get the support, can they? They can't. I think the Prime

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Minister's prescription was very good. It is often argued that

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Scotland is so much more left-wing than England and this is the reason

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why the Conservatives can't prosper. But the truth is it is something of

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a myth. If the look at opinion surveys, Scotland is a little bit

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more left-wing than Scotland but only have a bit more, about 5% more.

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However, the problem for the Conservatives is that even those

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who are on the Centre Right and the right in Scotland are much less

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willing to vote for the party north of the border than there are south

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of the border. The reason seems to be because those who indeed

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primarily feel Scottish, those who wanted a Scottish Parliament that

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is strong, for the moment, they eschew the Scottish Conservative

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Party. I think the challenge for Ruth Davidson is that if she wants

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to defend the Union on the one hand and be sceptical about more power

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to Scottish Parliament but at the same time wanting to attract people

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on the Centre Right, is can she bring those two things together.

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The position on the union and their perception of being an England

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party seems to cuts across. That sounds like a difficult balance to

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strike. Can a parties campaign to fight for the union means they will

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attract more support? What the are trained to do, they have declined

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over an extended prolonged period because they were seen increasingly

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as being other than Scots, they were seen as primarily an English

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party. It was complete therefore best prospects in Scotland. They

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were brandishing patriotism, a branch in the Union flag. They

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picked the wrong patriotism. Or the Prime Minister was saying is stress

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the Scottishness and argue from the union but argue from a very much

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Scottish position. And the PM also said that he seems to argue that

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the campaign for the union, it will invigorate the Tories themselves.

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He believes as a consequence of that, with that reinvigoration,

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they can start campaigning on issues like the economy and society

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and perhaps then, they can reach out to Scottish people. In other

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words, you have to get past the obstacle of being seen as other

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than a Scottish party and then perhaps, you'll get a hearing for

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the other issues that the Prime Minister was arguing should be

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advanced. Now, a debate on the constitution is going on in the

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hall in Troon. Let's cross live there and listen in. As part of

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this partnership, we are the 7th wealthiest nation on earth. We can

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play a major role in the future developments of mankind on a global

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stage and also, even with one of the worst global recessions ever

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and 13 years of Labour rule, we are still in a position to look to

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prosper and grow. In short, we are stronger together and weaker apart.

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That is why we all need to go out from this hall today and make that

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positive case for the union and continue our pledge for a

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resounding and unwavering support Thank you. I would like to ask Paul

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bordering -- Paul Gordon from the British Conservatives in Madrid and

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Alex Fergusson SNP to speak. Thank you. I spoke before. I will come

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back on. I would just like to support the words given up by our

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colleague from Renfrewshire. I really think we have to cut Alex

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Salmond down to size. We cannot underestimate what he is trying to

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do. It is a real, real campaign based on lies and manipulation. He

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is trying to brainwash the Scottish people and he's a very canny and

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shrewd man. I met him years ago at a debate when he was a lot thinner

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and I was as well. And he really caught my attention because he does

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have a lot of political capacity. We must not underestimate him or

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his stooges, to use that word, the apostles of division and hatred,

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this is really sad. When I am asked about this in Spain by Spanish

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people, they ask me, what is happening in your country? Has

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Scotland been, has it had such a bad deal out of Great Britain? They

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are really quite surprised. Spain is going down a similar story, of

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course. And for that reason, as Mr Stevenson said, the Spanish

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government is looking at this story with great preoccupation because

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Catalonia and the Basque country are in a similar situation, if not

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even worse. And I would like just to say that we must cut Alex

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Salmond down to size. We live in a democracy and we cannot allow him

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to spend taxpayers' money as if it was bred falling from heaven. He

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must be cut down to size. One of the debates. We will be going back

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to that shortly when the Home Secretary Theresa May will be

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speaking. Yesterday, the Prime Minister gave a rallying call to

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the faithful in the party and said he will fight for the party with

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everything they have. The speech began with an admission that it

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wasn't always been easy being a conservative in Scotland. We walk

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taller, we shout loud together. That is why I say not only can you

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love Scotland and love the United Kingdom, not only can you drive

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yourself in both flags, but let me say this, you can be even prouder

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of your Scottish Heritage then you're British heritage, as many in

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Britain are, and still believe that Scotland is better off in Britain.

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All of this is why this Prime Minister and his party is going to

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fight for the United Kingdom with So I am eager that the hold of that

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debate, we put that question, we make that decision. But do you know

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the big roadblock standing in the way of this referendum? It is the

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man who has been calling for it for decades! At the last election, Alex

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Salmond asked for a mandate for a vote on independence. He won that

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election, he got back mandate, I have offered him his referendum,

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but now he will not take it. What on earth is going on? First he

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wanted a referendum in 2010, now he says he needs 1000 days. First he

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said he wanted one question, now he is after two. Now he is talking

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about Deval Max Audie vote Plus, soon it will be due for the sequel.

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I thought we were meant to be watching the movie Braveheart, it

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turned out it is a chicken run! APPLAUSE. What is he waiting for?

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He says he wants to know when a more devolved powers are on the

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table. But no one can appear at -- accuse me of being pragmatic --

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dogmatic. In the Scottish bill, we have a huge transfer of fiscal

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powers. Indeed, the proportion of the budget that can be raised in

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Scotland by more than double. This week, we have reached agreement

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with the Scottish Government on further issues they wanted

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reflected in the bill. So this is a bill, delivered in Westminster by a

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Conservative prime minister, supported by the Scottish

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Government, consented to by the Scottish Parliament, I promised

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respect and that is exactly what we are giving. Scotland's two

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governments and to parliaments working together. Beyond this, I am

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open-minded about the transfer of more powers, as long as those

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powers are truly about improving the lives of people in Scotland and

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not just bargaining chips in some endless game of constitutional

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poker. APPLAUSE. But all of these are principally questions for after

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the referendum. The people of Scotland were promised at a clear

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choice. Yes or no. In or out of the United Kingdom. And that is exactly

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the clarity they should get. Delay creates uncertainty, for businesses,

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investors, families. People need to know one way or the other. So why

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message to the First Minister is this: stop dithering and start

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delivering. Let us give the Scottish people the chance to make

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a clear choice about their future. APPLAUSE. In that campaign, I want

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us to demonstrate that this is a party with a proud, patriotic

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message. Scottish and British. But our long-term future depends on

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much more than that. It depends on showing how our values canned make

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for the values of Scotland. I see no reason at all why a party that

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is moderate, sensible, centre right, cannot represent millions of people

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in Scotland. This is a nation founded on the virtues of thrift

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and graft. Of paying your way and not running up debts. There is a

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profound belief in personal responsibility that its Scottish

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workers through the snow and into work on a winter morning. There is

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that buccaneering spirit. There is that passionate belief in family,

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community and country. For Conservatives looking at these

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qualities, looking at these values, it is like looking in the mirror.

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The art are qualities, our values. Yet let us face it, that is not how

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many Scots think of our party. The pensioner in Yorkshire at votes

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Conservative because he or she knows we will look after every

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pound of taxpayers' money. But too often, the pensioner in Perthshire

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with with the same belief in sound money, rejects us. The entrepreneur

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in Birmingham backs us because we believe in lower taxes in

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enterprise, but no one in Glasgow does not always do the same. The

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mother in Suffolk likes our focus on building a strong, safe society

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where built -- children are brought up with the right values. So does

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the mother in an this, but still there is something holding her back

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in the ballot box. Some would say it is always going to be like this

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so just get used to it. Icy it is time that we stood up even more

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strongly, -- I say it is time that we stood up more strongly for those

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values we believe in. When you make a strong argument, people listen.

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Those who agree will follow your lead. That is what we have done on

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the question of the Union. For years, we shied away from the

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subject, afraid of saying anything, worried it would be taken the wrong

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way. No way, the Conservatives, are the ones on the front foot, asking

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for the referendum, looking for that challenge. And although we are

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just at the start of this journey, people are beginning to listen to

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us. We needed to show the same fight right across the board on all

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of the issues that really matter to the Scottish people. The economy

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the work and, the opportunities for their children, the society 11.

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People in Scotland deserve a real choice about these things, and that

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should include sensible, practical, centre right ideas. And that can

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only come from us. The time of timidity is over. Enough of trying

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to be all things to all people. Let us be clear about what we stand for

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and what we will not put up with. Let us take for instance our

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message about fiscal responsibility out to this country. This is a

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nation with prudence in its blood. Every sensible Scot knows that we

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have to live within our means. The knows that there are no shortcuts

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to get out of the mess we are run. Labour and the SNP are trying to

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tap into this mood. They are beginning to talk the language of

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austerity. But Askew, have you heard anyone from Labour or the s

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MP ever asking for a sensible cut in anything? We have had the Celtic

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Lion, the art of prosperity, but nothing about how we can live

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within our means. So we have to be clear to the Scottish people. If

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you care about dealing with the deficit, if you care about not

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handing on debts to your children, there is only one party on your

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wavelength and that is us, the Scottish Conservatives. APPLAUSE.

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So let this be a challenge. Not just in the run-up to these

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elections but in the months and years beyond. To reach out and send

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out a rallying cry across Scotland seeing-to parents, who fear leaving

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a legacy of debt to the next generation, we feel it too. You

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have a home with us. To the young web entrepreneur who is desperate

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to make money and to new jobs, we are behind you. You have a home

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with us. To the pensioner who believes that a duty and decency

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other pillars of our communal life, you have a home with us. To the

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doctor, nurse, a teacher who want to have more say it on -- in what

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happens in the ward or the classroom, you have a home with us.

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To everyone who wants more control over their lives and to

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neighbourhoods, you have a home with us. To everyone who knows that

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this is a great country but we have to work harder to make it greater

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still, and to everyone who loves Scotland but loves the UK as well

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for everything it can be in the future, come with us, join us, you

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have a home with us. APPLES. That was the prime minister

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speaking yesterday. Let us go back to Brian in Troon.

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It is getting sunnier by the second. It is absolutely gorgeous. Three

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Conservative activists have joined me. He is saying enough of the

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hand-wringing. Do you empathise with that? David Cameron made a

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really great point about the strength of the Union in his speech.

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That was great for everyone to see. He made a really good points about

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why we need to keep Great Britain together. This point he is making

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about standing up for conservatism, does that go with you? Absolutely.

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There is no doubt that anyone who heard his speech yesterday knows

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how passionate he is about keeping Scotland in the Union. But saying

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it in that fashion, saying that if you are going to be a Tory, stop

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apologising for it, does that echo what you? Yes. I think it is

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important in Scotland for us to stand up for the principles we

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believe them and to take those principles and positive stances and

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create something people want to vote for. We have a great story to

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tell and David Cameron put it across very well. One part was a

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passionate defence of the Union and the second part was the things we

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are doing, we have that Conservative Prime Minister and we

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have just taken 2 million of the lowest pay two people out of income

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tax. My apologies. We're going back into the conference will for

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Theresa May. -- conference hall.

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Thank you very much. It is a real privilege to be able to join you

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hear in Troon today. What a beautiful town it is. So typically

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Scottish. I heard I hear hear it from over their! Stunning coastline,

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friendly people and of course, a famous golf course. In so many ways,

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it represents all that is special about Scotland. Whenever I visit

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Scotland, I am reminded of the fighting spirit of the Scots. It is

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indeed across the globe. You might have noticed that I am not Scottish.

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But I have often observed how you receive a warm welcome wherever you

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travel. It is one of many things to be proud of. And it is reciprocated.

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When people visit the vibrant cities and put his gown at --

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pretty towns, the spiritual Islands of this great country, a country

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admired across the world, indeed, how many people abroad who have not

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even visited the shorts would like to claim roots in Scotland? Your

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country and its people are loved and admired and everyone wants to

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be part of it. But the Scotland Bill of is part of a bigger hole. -

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- the Scotland they love is part of a bigger hole. And I am here today

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to talk about why it should stay that way. I want Scotland to be

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part of the United Kingdom. I believe in the Union. APPLAUSE.

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shared past, centuries of being together, the union for all its

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history of up Sundowns is to be cherished. I have no doubt that

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Scotland could survive outside the United Kingdom, but together we are

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stronger. Stronger on the world stage, stronger in protecting our

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sovereignty in Europe, stomping -- stronger in our own communities and

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stronger for recognising this. I am pleased to have this opportunity to

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talk to you about the work I do and how it operates within the union

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and why I believe that continued success is tied to the union. As

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Home Secretary, I see every day how we work together for the good of us

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all. Assured intent that unite us. Working together to protect our

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borders, working together, protecting the country from those

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who would seek to do us harm. I also want to talk to you today

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about some of the myths that the SNP would have people believe.

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Under what to start some debate over issues like Europe, a debate

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that the SNP does not want you to have. I will not pretend that our

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party is the most popular in Scotland. I will not pretend that

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we do not have some way to go in asking Scotland to trust us again.

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But we ought to look to the future and the uncertainty of the union

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demands that we must. I believe that each and every woman and man

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in this room has a part to play in started to make good progress.

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There have been changes to the party in Scotland, of which we can

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be proud. Your leader, at this Davidson, is a fresh talent. --

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Ruth Davidson. We have had -- we have seen gross in party membership

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under her leadership. The new campaign will continue to yield

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more to read the year. She has already become a powerful voice in

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Scotland, making the arguments with passion and purpose. My friend

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Annabel Goldie did so much for our party for so long and continues to

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It is something of an understatement to say that you are

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a tough act to follow. But Ruth is following in her own way with her

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own style. She has hit the ground running in modernising the party,

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said in a policy reviews and bringing people together. The

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issues she faces as leader are not small as the party heads into local

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government elections but under her leadership, I'm believe we are

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making good progress. Like everyone in this room, she understands the

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strength that comes from the union. Yesterday, the party launched its

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friends of the union campaign and I look forward to helping in any way

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I can. Under won's leadership, the party had the energy, the vision,

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the will to win again and we can demonstrate that we are a modern,

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relevant and powerful force in Scotland. And now, as the threat of

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separation looms large, Scotland Now, the question over the future

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of the United Kingdom cannot be taken lightly. And that is why it

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deserves open and honest debate on a number of key issues. Don't be

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fooled, conference, by the better end in SNP. The Scottish National

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Party is not made up of nationalists. Nor should we see

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them as portraitists. As David Cameron said yesterday, how dare

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the SNP claimed patriotism for independence alone. Is not everyone

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in this room a Patrick? -- a No, the SNP are not nationalists,

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they are separatists. Separatist like Alex Salmond one to duck for

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be tough questions. He calls himself a social democrat but he

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fails to deal with the many issues for democracy which arise from

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being a separate Scotland. He calls himself a progressive but what is

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progressive about breaking Scotland off from the rest of the United

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Kingdom, then giving away powers to Europe? It completely defeats the

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SNP argument that Scotland would fare better with more control over

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its own affairs when they seek to handover so many serious areas of

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government elsewhere. And people want to know, and they have a right

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to know, what handing over those powers will mean. Maybe even a

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joining the single currency. In the UK, we maintain control over our

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borders. Joining Europe's area could open Scotland up to mass

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immigration. In the UK, we have an opt-out on justice and home affairs

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matters. Almost certainly, Scotland would not have an opt out. All

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serious issues with huge implications for Scotland. It is

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unfair and it is undemocratic of Alex Salmond not to tell us how all

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of this would affect Scotland. Now, let's take the issue of currency as

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a case in point. Over the years, Alex Salmond has made the case for

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Scotland joining the euro. Indeed, he did so with a passion for which

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she is so well known. Nowadays, he has shifted his position. Now, he

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says that an independent Scotland would retain Stirling. But that

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doesn't really work either. Scotland were still find itself in

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a currency zone in which interest rates are set elsewhere. All that

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up he will, all that changed for no meaningful change at all. -- All

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that upheaval. There are of course occasions when the governments of

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Holyrood and Westminster might take a different view on an issue.

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Immigration is a policy area that is retained and for which I am

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responsible as Home Secretary. However, the SNP and Labour believe

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that all immigration is good. I don't agree. We need to reduce and

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control immigration. For those who add value to our economy, the door

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will always be open. Indeed, recent changes to the system we have made

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make it easier for them to come. We won the brightest and the best,

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those who will contribute to the economy to come to the UK. And of

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course, we will always welcome those who generally seek refuge --

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refuge from persecution. But under Labour, a net migration to the UK

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number 2.2 million people, some of those will have settled in Scotland.

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Understandably, some communities struggled with such rapid change.

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They found that Labour's decade of mass mismanaged immigration policy

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had a huge impact on public services like health and schools.

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Indeed, a recent report which included Scotland carried out by

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the migration advisory committee found evidence to suggest a

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negative association between people coming to Britain from outside

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Europe and British-born employment during the past 15 years. It also

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found that some potentially adverse impacts such as housing costs and

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increased congestion in public transport are not easily absorbed.

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And then, there is illegal immigration, sham marriages,

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illegal working, people staying on with expired visas, in rooting out

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illegal immigrants, they have been some success stories he is often.

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The UK Border Agency's Glasgow team disrupted nine sham marriages in

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Gretna this year. Earlier this month, the local immigration team

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in Glasgow, accompanied by Strathclyde Police, addresses 11

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suspected illegal entrants. We have made it our aim to get net

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migration back down to the tens of thousands. Cutting immigration

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isn't simple and it will take time. But we are taking action on every

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route to the UK. And worst it isn't simple, it is vital, so don't let

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Labour and the SNP tell you any Now, in being devolved, Scotland

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has shown great success at managing its own affairs. As Home Secretary,

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I have no say at all in policing in Scotland and I wouldn't want it any

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other way. There are many differences in our approach to

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policing. Scotland will have just one force, we in England and Wales

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have 43. But I am always struck by how well the arrangement works. And

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it certainly doesn't mean we don't talk to each other. In fact, the

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opposite is true. Police forces, intelligence agency and immigration

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officers work alongside each other on everything from cracking down on

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illegal immigration to counter terrorism. The approach balances

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the reserved nature of some of the work while recognising the devolved

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nature of important aspects of its delivery in Scotland. But again, we

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are stronger together. The threat from terrorism shows no regard for

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boarders. On several occasions, Scotland has been on the forefront

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of international terrorist attacks. When the bomb went off at Glasgow

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airport, before resources of the UK state went into running down every

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need. Extensive co-operation between the UK and the Scottish

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government has developed effective counter-terrorism capabilities.

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Working together, our governments have worked in preparation for the

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Commonwealth Games in 2014. Scottish police forces and those in

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England and Wales have been working closely to make this international

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event safe and secure for all to enjoy. Indeed, a national counter-

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terrorism exercise to test our preparedness in response to a

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terror effect -- terror threat to the 2014 games will take place next

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year. And we all look forward to delivering a secure London 2012

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games. And Glasgow, Hampden Park, that will be one of the venues. The

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challenge of those games is immense. The Olympics safety and security

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programme will probably be the largest security operation ever

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taken in peacetime Britain. 10,500 athletes for the Olympics and over

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4,000 for the Paralympics coming from over 200 countries. On the

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busiest day, 800,000 live spectators. And a global TV

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audience of up to 4 billion. And, by the way, 21,000 journalists,

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twice the number of athletes! And every one of them looking for a

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story. But with those 4 billion television viewers all around the

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world, all the eyes of the world will be upon us. Regardless of

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where you come from in the UK, we will be seen as British. Working

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together, we are fighting the scourge of international terrorism.

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Working together, we are busting the international drug barons that

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ruin our communities, rip families apart and ravaged the lives of so

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many. Working together, we can look to the future as a United Kingdom.

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We are sending out the message that if people wish to threaten our

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security and way of life, then, we stand ready together to do all we

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can to stop them in their tracks. There is indeed more that brings us

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together than tears us apart. A future in which Scotland, Wales,

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Northern Ireland and England continued to flourish side by side

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as equal partners. Different and Different and proud to be so.

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Surrey, did you say I should have whisky in this? -- sorry. Moving

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forward together, we know what we are worth and will go out and get

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what we are worth and we will do it together and that is how we will

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win. And that is progressive. Conference, I believe in the Union.

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We believe in the Union. So, let's see that famous Scottish fighting

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spirit out there on the doorsteps The Home Secretary Theresa May

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being applauded by the people in the hall. Joining me his Professor

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John Curtice of Strathclyde University. A very interesting

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point that was picked up in a few of the papers today, her warning

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about mass emigration to Scotland. Indeed, and that fitted a wider

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theme in the speech. The argument is that Scotland, as part of the

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United Kingdom, is better against threats from elsewhere. So, yes, in

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part she was talking about immigration. She was also talk

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about Europe, the single currency, also talk about terrorism and drugs.

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These are all apparently external threats. She is trying to argue

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that the union is better capable of defending Scotland from these

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threats than Scotland is on its own. Some have the points will be

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disputed. For example, the fact that UK is part of this agreement

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has little effect. People have an agreement across the union

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irrespective of having to show a passport or not. So whether

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Scotland would end up with more people coming to this country from

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Poland or other parts of eastern Europe,, frankly, it is irrelevant.

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I things another points will be disputed. It is interesting to look

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at some for points. The one to defence Scotland against some of

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these threats, you need to keep the year. Had you think her speech goes

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down to a Scottish audience? There was polite applause. Mass

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immigration isn't really issued issue in Scott and. It is certainly

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true that immigration from outside the European Union, Scotland has

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had far less of that. Of course, is also true, and she was partly

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alluding to this that Scotland's politicians, Scott and needs more

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in the way of immigration in order to get the age balance in the

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population. Ironically, we have seen the birth rate increase in

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Scotland and we are getting a natural increase in population. So,

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some of the requirement for extra immigration has dropped. But

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certainly, Scotland, in a sense, existing in this context, and also

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some of the arguments about whether immigration is a good or bad thing,

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the tone of that debate has been somewhat different than for certain

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Alex Ferguson said the case for it -- said it is impossible to

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campaign against separation without explaining the consequences to the

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Scottish people of rejecting independence. There is no doubt

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that the pace of the debate since the New Year when the Government

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announced its you on the legality of a bill on independence, and its

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conclusion that a further transfer of powers was required to give the

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Scottish Parliament the legal comes -- legal competence to enact such a

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measure. The interesting thing is that when it comes to this crucial

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question, the SNP actually agrees that it meets -- needs that

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transfer of powers to enable such a stark choice to be put to the

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Scottish people. Accordingly, why is it, you may ask, but since the

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turn of the year there has been more discussion about a second

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question then there has about the consequences and implications of

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independence itself. No one has more to say on this subject then Mr

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Salmond, whose attention should be focused on independence, of which

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is after all the reason of existing up for his party. There is a

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fundamental difference between independence and devolution, up

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between sustaining a union and the break-up of Britain. Separation is

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a fundamentally different proposition from any scheme of

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devolution, and that is the question which needs to be answered

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above all else and before all else. In my opinion, some proponents of

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different models of devolution are playing with fire if they seek to

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introduce the second questions or multiple choices into the

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referendum. Wittingly or unwittingly, we're playing Alex

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Salmond's game because this simply deflects attention from the main

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area should and they should be wary of getting their fingers burnt.

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can be no coincidence that in a recent poll, at 8% of undivided --

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undecided at voters said they would vote No to independence if they

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knew that the pilot was to get for their powers and they knew what the

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powers were to be. There is one very good reason to understand what

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those powers would be in the event of a no vote. I do not think that

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is a good enough reason. And no vote in the referendum is surely

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what we all want, it is certainly what we all work for, and if this

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is achieved, as I believe it will be, independence will be off the

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agenda. But I ask you for how long will that be the case. It would be

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until the next majority SNP Government is elected to Holyrood

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and a new tranche of the SNP backbench fundamentalists have to

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be mollycoddled by their leadership. I want an outcome to all of this

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that knocks independence of the agenda, not just for the next five

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or 10 years, but maybe for a century or more. The prize for all

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of this if we get this right is the creation of a long-term,

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sustainable constitutional structure that was a queue at of

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all its -- devolved Scotland within the United Kingdom for several

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generations to come. I simply do not believe we can achieve that

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without considering and laying out our plans for the further

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devolution of powers from Westminster to Holyrood. Alex

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Ferguson there. Let us speak now to David Mundell. He is standing by

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the seaside in at Troon. I just wanted to get up on one or two

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points about Theresa May's speech there. She was saying that

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independence could open up Scotland to mass emigration. Do you really

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need these scare stories to try and keep the union? They are not scare

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stories. We're trying to move the debate on about independence and

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get people addressing the issues that Scotland will face if we

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separate from the rest of Britain. There has been no such sensitive

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discussion today about issues like immigration, membership of -- our

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membership to the heat -- to the EU, how we will deal with the terrorist

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threat, these are substantial issues that need to be debated so

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that people know what the position is if Scotland were to be separate.

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We have heard nothing from the SNP of the detail of was separation

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will mean and that is our challenge to them cute -- a challenge to

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them: come and show us what a separate Scotland will look like.

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What currency will use? How will the deal with international

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terrorist threat? This could be a rather self-defeating argument,

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because that she says that Scotland will have to relax border controls,

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the same could equally apply to England and Wales. The position is

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that as a member state -- that a member state of the EU has never

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broken up before in the way that the SNP are proposing to break up

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Britain, so they do not have the answers to these big questions.

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now there do you. -- needed to you. I am not making the case for

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Scotland to be broken out of the rest of Britain. I want things to

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carry on as they are. I think Scotland has a good deal with in

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the UK, a good deal within Europe, I think Scotland is protected from

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international threats because it is part of the UK. I am not making the

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case for Scotland to be separate. The SNP are, it is for them to

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answer these questions as to what as separate Scotland would look

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like. Theresa May was trying to point out that mass emigration has

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had a huge impact on public sector has Mac public services. This kind

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of top does not go down well in Scotland. -- of torque. I think

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people are concerned to understand what will happen in a separate

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Scotland on big issues like immigration and whether people in

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Scotland will require a passport to go to other parts of the United

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Kingdom, what our relationship with the EU will be. A lot of these

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issues have not been discussed in Scotland because we had been part

0:51:510:51:54

of the United Kingdom. They will become issues if we are a separate

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Scotland. It is now at that time for the SNP to set out clearly what

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a separate Scotland will look like. Let us move on to what the Prime

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Minister was saying -- saying yesterday. If you are the party's

0:52:070:52:12

sole MP. Did you feel the party was chided by the Prime Minister for

0:52:120:52:19

poor performances over the past 20 years? We all recognise in the

0:52:190:52:21

Scottish Conservative Party that we have to do better and we have this

0:52:220:52:27

capacity to do better. We have a new, young leader who is

0:52:270:52:31

revitalising the party organisation, announcing shortly some big changes

0:52:310:52:39

in policy. During our leadership election, we as a party as a whole

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it recognised the difficulties that we have had and the issues we have

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to face, but what the Prime Minister also said yesterday it was

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that this fight to keep Scotland in the United Kingdom gives our party

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here in Scotland are renewed sense of purpose. It gives us something

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to be out there on the doorsteps campaigning on, and that is what we

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intend to do. As the Prime Minister said, you are trying to attract

0:53:090:53:12

that mother in Angus, that entrepreneur in Glasgow, but how

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can you realistically do that? Annabel Goldie put all our efforts

0:53:170:53:23

into trying to attract that support but it has not worked. One of the

0:53:230:53:29

reasons that it has not work -- worked, is that a lot of people had

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been voting SNP on the basis that they were pursuing Conservative

0:53:320:53:37

policies, policies like freezing council tax, police numbers, low

0:53:370:53:41

business rates, but what people are beginning to understand is that

0:53:410:53:46

voting SNP is not about getting policies delivered, it is about

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breaking up Britain. That is one of the big message is that we want to

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get over. If you what Conservative policies and you want to stay in

0:53:540:54:00

the United Kingdom, the way to do that is to vote Conservative.

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Prime Minister accused Alex Salmond of dithering, of hold a referendum

0:54:040:54:09

in the autumn of 2014. If you read the Scotsman today, it seems that

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the Prime Minister is willing to go for 2014 as long as there is only

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one question. Is that true? We want the legal, fair and decisive

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referendum. The sooner the better. Alex Salmond's whole reason has

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been having a referendum on independence. Now he wants one in

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2014 and has given it no substantive reason for why we

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should -- it should be delayed. All the procedures should be completed

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by next autumn and we could have a referendum in 2013. He should get

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on with it. We are ready. The Prime Minister has said it very clear

0:54:510:54:55

that we are up for this fight, let's get on with it and end the

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uncertainty and to know whether it Scotland is to be part of Britain

0:54:580:55:04

or is to be separate. What happened after the fight? I AM confused as

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to what Ruth Davidson's line in the sand meant about new powers. As the

0:55:120:55:19

SNP said, it is quite a pig in a whole. What the SNP are offering is

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a pig in a pork, because they are supposedly a party that wants

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independence and now having never participated in the previous

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constitutional commission, they are starting to bring on issues about

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more powers, which they say they do not believe him. What we're done as

0:55:370:55:43

a Conservative Party here in Scotland is we have said that we

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would deliver recommendations and that a Conservative Prime Minister

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has delivered the Scotland Bill which will bring forward the

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biggest transfer of financial powers to Scotland in 300 years.

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But his David Cameron's record on devolution. The SNP have never been

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previously interested in more powers. They say they are

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interested in independence, if they are, let us have that referendum

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and let Scotland decide. Do you think the Scotland Bill is a Trojan

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horse? I think that the Scotland Bill is a well thought-out piece of

0:56:200:56:24

legislation which will make the Scottish Parliament financially

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accountable to the people of Scotland. When I served in the

0:56:270:56:30

Scottish Parliament, the issue was always the fact that the Parliament

0:56:300:56:34

was focused on how to spend money, it was not focused on how that

0:56:340:56:38

money was raised. This will make the Scottish Parliament more

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financially accountable to the people of Scotland and I think VAT

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is a significant change. But ultimately it is up to the people

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in Scotland as to whether they want more powers for the Scottish

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Parliament. David Cameron has said that he is open to more powers but

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at this moment there is no proposal on the table for more powers. What

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we want to do is get ahead, get the referenda out of the way, let the

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people of Scotland decide and then at that time there will be plenty

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of scope to discuss whether the Parliament should have other powers.

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Thank you very much. The conference debate on the

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economy was introduced as being even more important than

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constitutional issues. Yesterday's session brought a mixture of

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politicians and business people to the podium to argue the case for

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tackling the national debt, reforming public services and

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focusing on economic growth. Scotland's Corp -- competition and

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market place are global and so our benchmark must be global, and on a

0:57:420:57:47

global scale our economy is not performing. This is no surprise

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with Scotland's public sector is so heavily weighted, and in Scotland's

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funding and to deliver a models for public services are so centralised

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and inefficient. This is no wonder when the current and previous

0:58:030:58:06

administrations in Holyrood have demonstrated so little strategic

0:58:060:58:11

ambition in investing in our infrastructure. The fix requires

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bold vision, courage, and the willingness to put aside short-term

0:58:170:58:21

political agendas and invest strategically for the long term. It

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also means recognising that to compete in the global economy, size

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matters. We should do everything possible to me for the numerous

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advantages of being part of a strong United came does. In a

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global world, that is the world will be all of them, independence

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would mean economic suicide for Scotland. Ladies and gentlemen, I

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support the motion. Thank you. APPLAUSE. I can only hope that the

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British Government looks to more entrepreneur's for advice on to

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help new businesses in ways other than simply providing funding. At

0:59:020:59:04

the end of the day, if our Government is trying to encourage

0:59:050:59:09

us to go out into the world and create an empire, they are not

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supporting us to do so or giving us the relevant support and that can

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only have a detrimental affect on the loyalty that youngsters feel

0:59:170:59:21

towards their Government. It is essential that the right people are

0:59:210:59:24

employed to award support and funding to future generations and I

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sincerely feel that this needs to be looked at. The way that the SNP

0:59:290:59:34

are running things up here is simply not working for those small

0:59:340:59:38

and medium-size enterprises that Britain is so keen to nurture. I am

0:59:380:59:42

now at this stage of opening her first shop, which is obviously very

0:59:420:59:46

exciting, not just because it will be my first job but because I can

0:59:460:59:49

finally pack in the restaurant job that I have had to keep myself

0:59:490:59:56

afloat for the last two years. I am very proud of all I have achieved,

0:59:560:59:59

however high have never considered myself to be an entrepreneur and

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will be simply someone told me that this was indeed how he perceived me.

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I told him I considered of -- Richard Branson and not -- that I

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considered Richard Branson and entrepreneur. He said, you're still

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in entrepreneur, it has not yet a successful one. However, I am only

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25 and have plenty of time it to The fun -- funding is crucial. At

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me moment, the traditional engine for funding is not working, the

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banks. 6.5% on overdraft to be reviewed every month and that from

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a state-supported bang. Finding suppliers is just as support and. -

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- just as supporting -- just as important. Much more focused

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support is necessary if the potential contribution my

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generation can make to our country's future can be realised.

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Emily, I was listening carefully to your speech and I hope what was so

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today it will be heard throughout Scotland. You made a strong and

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clear message to the Scottish government. Let's not forget, and

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this government went to get, that we all need entrepreneurs to get

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growth. But we also need government to get behind those entrepreneurs.

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Just look at the steps we are taking in Scotland, some of which

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the Prime Minister mentioned earlier. Enhanced capital earners.

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And the potential to deliver more jobs. As Alan mentioned, measures

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that will stimulate billions of pounds of additional investment in

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oil and gas. A huge boost for investment in the North Sea. Making

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Edinburgh a super connected city, delivering ultra-fast broadband and

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high-speed wireless connectivity. Corporation tax relief on video

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games which will be particularly good news for Dundee and a tax

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extension on the Commonwealth Games. But also, there are the steps we

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are taking across the UK. In the teacher, in my area of tax. From

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time to time, we receive representations from the Scottish

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government that they would like corporation tax to be devolved.

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They say that if they had power over corporation tax, they would

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take great steps to make Scotland more competitive. The details, I

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have to say, tend to be a little fuzzy. There is not much

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information out how the tax would be collected or calculated would

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stop they tend to brush over the fact that the overwhelming view of

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business is that different corporation tax regime in Scotland

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compared to the rest of the UK would create unwelcome

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administrative burdens. And there is not a word about a cut -- how a

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cut in corporation tax would be paid for. A cynic might point out

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that when the Scottish nationalists get their hands on a tax like

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business like business rates, they are more likely to put it up, not

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down. For some years, I have heard Scottish nationalists say that if

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we had a corporation tax of 28%, the opportunities for Scotland

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would be glorious. Well, when we came to power, corporation tax was

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20% and we started cutting it, first to 26%. Next month, it will

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be 24%. By 2014, it will be 22%, within sight of 20%. Thought-

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through, costed and sustainable. This government is giving Scotland

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and the whole of the United England -- cannot -- United Kingdom and the

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competitive edge we need. I'd run a B&B and I have been nominated as

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running the friendlies B&B in 2012. -- friendliest. It does show that

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even the smallest micro business can get recognition if you put your

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mind to it. I would just like to end with a short quote. Someone

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said to me earlier I should quote Churchill. I'm going to quote

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Stanley Baldwin. A long time ago, I know. But just listen to these two

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sentences. There are four words and one syllable, each are words which

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contain salvation for this country. There are faith, hope, love and

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work. And no government in this country today which has not faith

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in people, hope in the future, enough for its fellow men and which

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won't work and work and work will ever bring this country through to

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better days and better times. Thank you, conference. It was the economy

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debate in the true in all. We should cross there shortly before

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Ruth Davidson's conference speech. -- Troon. Ruth took over in

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November. What progress have the Tories being making in the polls?

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Clearly, there is a hope that with Ruth Davidson, the party would

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indeed achieve progress, progress which has been entirely lacking

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since 1997. The truth is that so far, there are any signs in the

1:05:531:05:56

opinion polls of this progress being achieved. Love for the most

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recent opinion polls, as far as voting intentions are concerned,

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the party is starting at 16%. In Holyrood, it is 13%. The truth is

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that so far, the Conservatives in Scotland under Ruth Davidson's

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Ladyship art in exactly the same large black hole they have been in

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for some considerable time. The truth is that most people do not

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yet know who Ruth Davidson his and have little ideas about her and her

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policies. This morning's speech is important because it is a high-

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profile event for her to try and get across to the Scottish public

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who she is and what she stands for. Would you things and that consent

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will be? She will be tried to explain who she is but what other

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contexts might we be hearing? are two things to look out for. One

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thing this party has the message on is that if you're going to sell

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anything in Scothern, you have too rapid in the Saltire, not the Union

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Jack. You have to be proud of the Saltire but still be part of the

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Union. This argument that he wanted the Scottish is being commenced

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that -- commensurate with being in favour with the union is something

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they will argue. We will see whether Ruth Davidson will put

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flesh on that idea. What are the arguments as to why those who feel

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strongly Scottish should be in favour of the Union? Why do the

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correct Scottishness? Undoubtedly, Ruth Davidson is much more willing

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than Annabel Goldie to embrace some of the ideas that using much more

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of a market approach to the delivery of public services. I'll

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be interested to see whether she repeats things she said earlier

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this month about, for example, adopting the policies of free

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schools, of greater involvement of the private sector in the delivery

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of the Health Service, something which has proved extremely

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conservative -- extremely controversial south of the border.

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We also accept it is there something about although she may be

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reluctant to -- for the Scottish Polla to have more power, it looks

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as though she might be saying that if they do get these powers, we

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indeed may be interested in using those powers to reduce the level of

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income tax in Scotland. You may have heard David ducks say what is

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the point of tax bias because we are already delivering lower

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corporation tax. But Ruth Davidson might say that they should campaign

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on the basis of having a lower income tax in Scotland will adopt

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we are going to the hall very shortly in Troon. They are playing

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Abdo to introduce her. There is Theresa May, the Home Secretary

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going to introduce her. She is taking to the steps now. She will

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introduce Ruth Davidson, the new Tory leader. Ladies and gentlemen,

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our Prime Minister David Cameron, the Cabinet, we all know what a

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fantastic job Ruth Davidson has been doing as your leader. Just

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look, in the last few weeks, she has pressed for city status for

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Perth, she has pressed for tax breaks for, what game athletes and

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for support for the computer games industry. I can tell you

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unreservedly that Ruth Davidson is fighting Scotland's corner. Ladies

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and gentlemen, please welcome the leader of the Scottish

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I think you left your whisky! Actually, it is pretty good! Good

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afternoon, conference. Hasn't it been a fantastic weekend. Hasn't it

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been so fantastic to see the support we have from the four

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corners of our United Kingdom. To see proper debate back at

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conference. To see so many MPs and ministers, cabinet ministers

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joining us here in Troon. And of course, a man who is a true

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supporter of our party in Scotland, our cause here in Scotland, our

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Prime Minister, our Conservative Prime Minister at David Cameron. --

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High Mr David Cameron. More than that, it is fantastic to see a

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party that has renewed, reinvigorated and up for the fight

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ahead. A party that is changing with its eyes firmly fixed on the

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future and all that it can bring. As our mission is about more than

1:11:091:11:12

simply restoring the electoral fortunes of these cottages

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Conservatives, although there is our goal. More fundamental, it is

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to reclaim the voice for mainstream Scotland. When you are elected me

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leader of our party, I promised root and branch reform, Eira -- I

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promised reform in the way in which we operate and how we communicate.

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That reform is well under way. Of the aged recommendations put

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forward by the Sanderson Commission and adopted by our party, 73 have

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been completed or are in the presence of completion. We have a

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new structure at the top, new ways of speaking with members and a

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recruitment drive is seeing results. In the last four months, our

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results have gone from fewer than 9,000 paid-up members to more than

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I played a greater role for that membership in the determination of

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policy and they promised to bring back proper debate within our ranks.

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From the robust such as we have seen this weekend, it is pretty

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clear there is no shortage of opinion. That is the way it should

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be. But it is not enough. Two further drive forward our policy

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review, I am announcing the membership of our new board.

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Journey on our border will be Stewart Stevenson, Scottish Lynsey,

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John Lamont and one about best known and committed campaigners Ian

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McGill. We are conducting the coldest review of our policies

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since devolution. We have groups representing the business

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communities and rural interests, teachers, professionals, and with

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communities the length and breadth of Scotland. This is no small body

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of work and it will feed into the board. We will be there to listen,

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to listen to you at conference, to listen to our policy reviews, to

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listen to expert opinion across Scottish public life, to learn from

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across the world what can work better here in Scotland. And

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together, we will build a set of policies that meet the challenges

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of our age and which reflect the aspirations of the modern Scott and.

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There are several further reforms in which power NUM members will

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play a central role. I want to share them with you today. As we

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map out a fresh and positive direction for the concert -- for

1:13:431:13:46

the Scottish Conservatives, we must match that with a fresh and

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positive image for our party. So, this will be the last Scottish

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Conservative conference where it will be -- where we will use our

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existing branding. Will consult with you on proposals for our

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dynamic new logo and image. Secondly, to be sure we're in the

1:14:061:14:12

best shape to fight elections, counsel, European and Western and

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parliamentary, we will be consulting on the future structure

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of our grass roots organisations. We must be a campaigning forced to

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better deliver our message and nannies to be at the core of all we

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do and how we shake ourselves. Thirdly, we must review our

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candidate selection as a ranking process for Holyrood. We must make

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sure that all the talented people in our ranks can play their full

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part as we take a party forward. To help these me -- to help me in

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these areas, I can think of no one loves the party will, no one who

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more appreciate the strength we have and seize the opportunities of

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what we can be, then our party's deputy leader Jackson Carlow and I

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have asked him to take the lead on these issues. Jackson, we are right

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And on the issues that mattered to Scotland, there will be debate,

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there must be robust debate, because politics is not about cosy

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consensus on every issue is, it is about a class of -- clash of ideas.

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We will reach out to reconnect with that the thousands of people who

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share our values but have stopped voting for us, or perhaps never

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have. We will not get our support from hiding our light under a

1:15:361:15:42

bushel, by saying nothing to offend, by apologising for being

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Conservatives. No more shy Tories, we must never be afraid to speak

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out. I APPLAUSE. There are moments in history when it falls to a group

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of people to take a stand. If to say what they believe in with

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conviction, with passion, with right on their side. To know that

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however allowed to their detractors will try to shed them down, they

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will not be diverted from their course. Knowing that they speak for

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the silent majority of the fellow men and women and that they shall

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prevail. Conference, this is our town, a moment, our duty and a

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column. Let me repeat what I told you last night. The next 1000 days

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will shape the future of our country for ever. This is a battle

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that we must win and that be will win. We will settle the separation

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question. That question of separation is the elephant in the

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room that is dominating Scottish politics. Often to the exclusion of

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everything else. We have an SNP that is so obsessed with separation

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that it is abdicating its responsibilities to the job it was

1:17:001:17:09

elected to do. On the day went youth unemployment figures crashed

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through the 1000 barrier, the highest Scotland has ever seen,

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where was the First Minister? Not at his desk, but down south at the

1:17:211:17:26

London School of Economics agitating for the job that he wants,

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President of a separate Scottish state. That was bad enough but it

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gets worse. All around Scotland, he is letting people down. Yesterday,

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in this poll, we held -- heard from Emily Lamb, at great example of the

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bright young entrepreneurial talent every country needs. She told us

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that she was frustrated and felt let down by our devolved Government.

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As she put it, the way that the SNP is running things up here is simply

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not working for the small and medium-sized enterprises that the

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United Kingdom is so keen to nurture. Alex Salmond, get back to

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your desk and get on with the job if she were elected to do. APPLAUSE.

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It is not just Scottish business that is being ignored, abandoned

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and neglected. It is the people of Scotland and the public services

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they are reliant. This week, I spoke to a young man who e-mailed

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me about the desperate need fought our cancer ward in Scotland. He

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says, I lost my mum in 2001 to cancer. Watching someone so full of

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life - it was painful to watch. How the -- her death has had a profound

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effect upon the and that is why I joined Cancer Research UK, so I can

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make sure that no one again will have to make sure -- will have to

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go through what my mum went through. I believe that with the greater

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availability of cancer drugs, my mother would be here today.

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Scotland has a poor record when it comes to cancer and the need

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radical change. I believe that this change can come from a cancer drugs

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fund. Those are the words of a 17- year-old boy who is desperately

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hard time and working to make a difference. He has been let down.

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We cannot allow others to put the future of their country on hold

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whilst they pursue their own agenda. So Alex, get back to your desk and

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get back to the job that you were elected to do. APPLAUSE. I wish

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that these were isolated cases, but they are not. The SNP's eye is of

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the ball. It is as if they do not want to use the powers they have

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got because it would prove that they have far more powers to use.

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Take justice. There has been some progress -- progress, largely due

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to the extra police that we delivered, but there is still so

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much to do. Five years after coming to power, and still no action from

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the SNP on ending the automatic early release scheme, which under

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the nationalists has freed nearly 35,000 convicts from Scotland's

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jails after serving just half of their services. That is 35,000

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criminals freed and able to commit more crimes, create more needless

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victims, when they should still be bought locked up for public safety.

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Surely the SNP have taken a more robust approach to community

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sentencing? Let me tell you the facts. Nearly one-third of the

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SNP's community pay back orders are opposed with no work reply it --

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work requirement whatsoever. Half of supervised attendance orders are

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breached by those serving them. So that is the SNP's approach to

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sentencing. If you're convicted you will serve on behalf of your

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service. If you're given a non- custodial sentence, there is every

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chance you will never have to do a day's work to pay back to society,

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and if you preach these terms, do not worry, the SNP have abolished

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short-term prison sentences. Conference, the SNP stands guilty

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without the criminal neglect of our justice system. They are guilty as

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charged. APPLAUSE. It is time for sentences to mean what they say.

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For five years to mean five years. For 10 years to mean it tenures. In

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Scotland we need a whole life order, because sometimes life should mean

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exactly that, life in prison with no chance of ever being released.

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That is what I mean about dividing lines in politics. And let us look

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at child care. The SNP say they what provision to rise to 600 hours

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per year. Fine words, but let us look at their actions. We have

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heard it all before. Five years ago they promised a 50% rise in child

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care and respect was five years failing to deliver. During that

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time, the number of pre-school places has dropped each and every

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year. A quarter of registered creches have closed in the last two

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years alone. In Scotland's classrooms, there are nearly 4,000

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fewer teachers then when the SNP came to power and one and five

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newly qualified teachers find themselves without a job. Alex, get

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back to your desk, get back to you work and do the job you were

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elected to do. APPLAUSE. Because one thing is now abundantly clear.

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For the separate us, there is only one game in town. As we look

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forward to may's elections, we know what that game is. We have seen it

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before. They will pretend it is all about local issues for local people,

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this from a nationalist party that wants to centralise everything. But

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as soon as the if -- as soon as the votes are counted they will claim

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that every ballot is a cast iron vote for separation, because the

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nationalists only have their eyes on one prize. They do not want a

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better Scotland, just a separate Scotland. So to our local council

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candidates, I say this. Call for would confident that we will settle

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the question and that we are the true party of localism and real

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devolution. Devolving power from Holyrood to people and communities

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across Scotland. This is another fundamental dividing line between

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the Scottish Conservatives and their opponents. They want to

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gather more power in the hands of the few. We want to deliver power

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into the hands of the many. So vast reseated delivered evolution at

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local level, it is us, at the Conservatives, who are delivering a

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further devilish and now for the people of Scotland. The Scotland

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Bill will soon bring the biggest transfer of fiscal powers to

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Scotland since the creation of the United Kingdom. New powers of a

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stamp duty, at landfill tax, income tax. We must focus our attention on

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using the powers we have and the new powers that are coming to build

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a better Scotland. While the new tax powers are still some time away,

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now is the time to think about how they can and should use to. As

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Conservatives, our view is clear. To cut the tax burden faced by

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individuals and businesses. Leaving more money in the pockets of Scots.

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Encouraging more businesses to expand to create more and better

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paid jobs in every corner of the country. Clearly, the scope for

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cutting income tax will depend on the economic climate and the state

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of public finances. But let there be no doubt, lowering the overall

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tax burden is our ambition. A dividing line between Conservatives

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to trust people to spend more of their own money to grow the economy

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and the others who do not. Sono Alex, it is not a penny for

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Scotland, it is pounds for people's pockets and that is the

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Conservative way. APPLES. applause. We are building a party

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that is brimming with new talent and fresh ideas. We are ready,

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willing and able to tackle the new issues facing Scotland. We will

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never face sight of the here and now. We know that there is no more

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important issue than Scotland's continued place within the United

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Kingdom. Our position is clear. We are for the union. Scotland is

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better off in Britain and we do not Defence Scotland's place in the

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United Kingdom by compromising with the forces of separatism. So no red

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ballots and no second questions. A clear choice for at the people of

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Scotland. In or out of the Union. I United Kingdom or a separate

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Scotland. It is a choice that the Scottish people must be given as

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quickly as possible. Delayed damages business. More and more

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people are asking the question, why the delay, Alex? What is going on?

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I will tell you what I think. Ego before party, party before country.

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There is a growing army who do not agenda is to break up Britain be

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working so hard to avoid putting a single, straight question to the

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country? But that is not a Conservative Way. A legal, a freer,

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decisive referendum. We must settle the referendum question -- this

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separation question. The APPLAUSE. The treaty of Union bind our

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nations together and set them on a shared path which has endured for

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more than three centuries. The United Kingdom is a shining example

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to the world of estate that gathers together an array of nationalities

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and peoples. Ours is an optimistic message. We support the Union

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because Scotland's strings bolster those of the other nations within

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it. It is about Corporation. It is about the whole being greater than

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the sum of its parts. Giselle thick -- celebrate the fact that our

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identity is not rigid but is open for all to share them. The

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diversity of the United Kingdom and the strength of the cultural

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enrichment that we draw from that is what it make -- what makes it

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unique and to be prized. Breaking up the union would only serve to

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narrow Scotland's ambitions. Embracing a British identity does

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not will cost of one ounce of our proud Scottish us, it simply adds

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an extra dimension to it. I union is a partnership. Our out looks are

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not always identical, we sometimes argued and recognise the necessity

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of compromise, but we know that we get far more from sticking together

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than they would from standing apart. The ties that draw our nation

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together are many and they have developed over time. For some, they

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are deeply cultural. For others, they are a respect for the

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institutions of our state, a monarch a, our armed forces. For

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others they are economic. If we are rightly proud of the history of the

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Union, it is to the future that we must raise our eyes. Scotland and

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Britain is not an exercise in nostalgia. It is positive and

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forward-looking, together for good. It is about the way we interact --

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interact with the rest of the world. It is about the advantages that

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come from an integrated economy. The Solidarity we have through the

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welfare state and the pulling of risks and rewards. To believe in

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the Union of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland, is not

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an exercise in timidity, it is a statement of confidence that as a

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nation Scotland Act should continue to play a role in the world beyond

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our size and the number of our people. It is a belief that our

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progress as a society is best served through continued

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partnership with in our family of nations. That will be our message

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over the coming months. To get that for good. Scotland is better off in

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Britain. To those who want to break apart, I say, the respect of you

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To supporters who accrued us, I say join us. We are positive that our

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destinies are best served together, together for good. A strong

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Scotland and a strong Britain. Pride in our past, faith in our

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future and an unshakeable conviction that our best days still

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lie ahead. Friends, I promise you that in our council chambers, at

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Holyrood, at Westminster and in Europe, we will keep our eye on the

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ball, fighting for a fairer deal, standing up and being counted on

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the issues that matter day to day but equally, and this is my vow,

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when it comes to the very future of the country that I laugh, I won't

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falter. As Conservatives, where we need to lead, we will lead, where

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we need to join, we would join, and where we need to fight, we won't be

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found wanting. There are things that divide us but there are

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aspects that can join us also. Scotland's calls is bigger than

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anyone political party. So I say, Scotland expects us to work

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together and we are. Scotland expects us to lead and we will.

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Scotland expects us to put aside our differences and pooled together

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for the common cause, to give a voice to the silent majority, to

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build a chorus across a nation. Today, we stand on the brink of

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history, the world is watching. This is a cause and we won't be

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found wanting. We will add our sound to the millions of voices

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declaring as one a strong Scotland in a strong Britain. Together, for

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but. Conference, let's get to work. The Scottish Conservative leader

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Ruth Davidson receiving a standing ovation in the hall at Troon after

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her very first conference speech. She was introduced by the Home

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Secretary Theresa May. Ruth Davidson are promised a new and

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reinvigorated party. She said no more shy Tories. She accused the

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SNP of taking the eye of the ball to focus on the referendum. He

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promised a new Scotland Bill and Tories would cut taxes. She said

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she was standing four-square behind a union and that she would give the

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boys to the silent majority the stop I am joined by Professor John

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Curtice of Strathclyde University was stopped John, your immediate

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reaction to that. Her first speech as they do. A rather surprisingly

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short speech. I think, in some sense, it showed the difficulty of

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the situation she has inherited. On the one hand, she has committed her

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party to a policy review. At the beginning of this beach, we had

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some detail about how it will be organised. That meant there was

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very little about what is the current Scottish Conservative

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policy and vision for the year. There was the idea that when

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Scotland has its own income tax powers, a much reduce it. A strong

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attack on the SNP's criminal- justice system. Still, with

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relatively little on the domestic double to politics, despite a very

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strong attack on the SNP for not paying enough attention to it. The

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second thing maybe the most important message of the space. She

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has inherited a situation where her party, together with Labour and

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Liberal Democrats, are wanting to defend the Union. She was to be

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combated but actually, she needs to become part of a wider pro-union

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organisation and the end of that speech was a very strong state and

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that although she does have are differences with the Liberal

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Democrats, she very clearly feels that her immediate objective is to

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collaborate with the other Unionist parties to create a strong pro-

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union campaign. She was saying that some of the party warfare will have

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to be put on hold for a while in order to achieve this figure

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projected. Achieve this bigger objective. She has given other

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speeches in where we have a clear idea about the degree to which she

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wants to change the Health Service and education. On the other hand,

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still, nobody could get any doubt about her style. She clearly is say

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to her party, we should not be timid. We should declare what we

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stand for. We should go on the basis of that. I think all that it

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is not necessarily clear from this speech, I think we're probably

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anticipating that under Ruth Davidson, the Conservative Party is

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probably going to move something to the right in Scotland. It will

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occupy much more distinctive policy spaces with respect to have

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Scotland should be run. She is someone who believes her party will

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revive by not as it were going to was the centre of Scottish politics

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and try to accommodate the new Conservative Party to the Scottish

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electorate. Rather, her strategy will be to say firmly this is what

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we believe in and by the way, we believe in different things from

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both Labour and the SNP in Scotland. Although the star was there today,

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I think the substance was missing because she is just about to go

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through a policy review and this time this next year -- this time

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next year, we may get some more flesh on the bones. Just the very

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beginning of the speech, it was parish pump stuff, to a

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housekeeping duties. But you think that is significant. She is trained

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to put her individual stamp on it. It is worth bearing in mind that in

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the same way as the Labour Party leader John Lamont, that was a

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change agreed before she became leader, equally, because it is

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agreed that Annabel Goldie's successor would be the leader of

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the whole of the Conservative Party has got and and she has inherited

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that position. She is indeed responsible for running because of

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a party in Scotland and I think undoubtedly, we are looking to see

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what policies the Conservative Party is going to launch a loss of

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the border. Certainly looking through the names of the people she

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is going to look at, they are people who are known to be

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associated quite closely with her. This is the policy board, the Ruth

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Davidson wing of the party that is now firmly in control of his party.

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She is selling her party members they can have the debate. -- she is

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telling her party members. Thank you. Let's go back over to Brian

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for more reaction from the delegates in the hall. Thank you. I

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am joined by Annabel Goldie, the Auld bird, as you describe yourself

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last night. What did you make of your successor's speech? I thought

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it was absolutely inspiring. I am not just saying no. It was full of

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passion and purpose. She laid down a very clear message of what she

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was to deliver and she also laid out the heart of what the

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Conservatives believe is the United Kingdom. That will be the

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touchstone for everything they are doing. There is this business about

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that the Shaikh, did apologise, end the ringing of hands. What do you

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make of that? They are saying the gloves are off. The battle-lines

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are drawn. People are coming up to me in the street saying, we want to

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stop this independence drive, what are you doing about it? Both David

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1:38:571:38:58

Cameron and won have Bradley said the moment is here, -- both David

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Cameron and Ruth have said the moment is here. I am a Scot who

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sits for the Conservatives in Westminster. I am passionate about

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defending the junior. The purpose is about getting jobs in Scotland

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and getting people in Scotland back to work. We can only do that with

1:39:201:39:23

stability. Uncertainty over the future does not give us that

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stability. A no compromise with the nationalists. How do you interpret

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that? I interpret that as meaning they will be no compromise with the

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nationalists. We are the premiere Unionist Party in a spot of. We

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will work with other parties to ensure that the union is not broken.

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You are say you are the premier union party? Isn't that they to

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aggravate Labour and the Liberal Democrats and in the same breath,

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you are calling them to work with you? I think they can make the same

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claim I have made. If they are, they can show us how it is done.

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You are asking Eddie joined you. this will be a campaign that is

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genuinely across the parties. People across Scotland will be

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invited to take part in that. We have to make sure this has got an's

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campaign. Annabel Goldie, another big issue from Ruth Davidson. When

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the tax part of the Bill is placed, when the circumstances are right,

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she is talking about cutting income tax in Scotland. That could be

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popular here but Mark's was it just aren't going to welcome that in

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England. Already, the reality of devolution is that over a whole

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range of things, with the powers that we have, we do things

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differently. I think Mark and his colleagues in Westminster

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understand that. That is the reality of devolution. The new

1:40:531:40:56

powers coming through with his got and built, I think they are very

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important for the Scottish Parliament and will give it this

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combination of not just responsibility for spending money

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but some degree of accountability and responsibility for raising the

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money, I think is an important discipline and that is what will be

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interesting to see how some of the other parties like the SNP make of

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that. Mark, how would you explain to your constituents south of the

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border that the Scots can cut income tax? My constituents would

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Tissier prospers -- a prosperous got there. If we can see tax cuts

1:41:311:41:35

taking place that make saw that an attractive place for investments,

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my constituents will welcome that. What we want to do is to be able to

1:41:421:41:46

make Scotland a haven for investments. Companies are worried

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about coming to Scotland at the moan because they don't know what

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Alex Salmond's plans are. We need to get that out of the way a get

1:41:521:42:00

jobs going in Scotland. That offer, essentially cutting taxation when

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it is founded upon the taxation bill going through but the former

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Secretary said that he regarded the Scotland Bill as a Trojan horse.

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think the Scotland Bill is essential. We need is the ability

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in Scotland. The problem for constituents south of the border

1:42:191:42:22

and their concern over spending is governed is they feel that money is

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being spent here that it is not being raised here. That is not the

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case. We need to be demonstrated more clearly. That is what the tax

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changes in Scotland are all about. An inspired view. And a new logo,

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as well? What would be your choice for a new logo? A tree? That is

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putting me in the spot. I am not going to fall foul of my new leader.

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These are important steps for the party to take. They will be

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significant, not just for the negative. I thought the most

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powerful thing she said the members was that unless you exist in a

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campaign and advance the political arguments that we as Conservatives

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believe in and show the dividing lines and the dividing line between

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us and the other parties. She is saying it is moribund in some

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areas? No, she is saying that the party needs to look at the whole

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issue of political campaigning. We believe in different policies to

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other parties, let's get out and sing that song lads and clear.

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on this point of organisation, some would say it is shovelling the

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chairs but do you think it is important? Yes, Scottish party is

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not as strong as it used to be. We need to work together. Colleagues

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south of the border like myself will be doing that. We need good

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Scots coming forward and offering themselves for public service.

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Don't leave it to someone else. If you are a conservative and you

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think you can play a part, come forward and do it. On the same

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point, candidate selection, she is obviously planning some big changes.

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Yes, indeed. The fact that she thinks the big changes are needed

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means she things there was a problem in the past. What is that

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problem? The problem was that we were too conservative, we were

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resistant to change. We are now adapting to the political party --

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climate in Scotland. These changes mean we can go forward and engage

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with a whole new generation of young Scots. These are young Scots

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were here this week. We have thousands of new members playing

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their role in that. Joss-sticks burning, the helicopter above,

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there is a demonstration organised and the helicopters are keeping an

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eye on them and probably just as well. Now, during a debate during

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energy policy, delegates had fully read and Westminster in their sides.

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The stellar wind farm development across got and also came in for

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I believe that the current construction of so many wind farms,

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or onshore and offshore, is the most are seriously damaging and

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destructive policy being inflicted on Scotland today. APPLAUSE. It is

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a damaging policy for many reasons. Firstly, it damages our industry

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where Claridge increases in the price of energy which threatens

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competitiveness. We are in a delicate economic recovery rates

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and purpose in making our industry uncompetitive is madness. Our

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environment is damaged by the loss of truly beautiful places. Some

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figures show that in 2002, 40% of our wild places remain in Scotland.

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By 2009, those had reduced to 28%. Sadly, there are no up-to-date

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figures, but for sure it has got worse. My own brief on our council

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is planning and environment. I want to support this motion because wind

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farms at giant con. Figures from the Department of Energy and

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climate change sure that wind farms in the United Kingdom earned 1,100

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million pounds for their owners. A �500 million of this was

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electricity, �600 million of this was subsidy. Who pays the subsidy?

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A householder. During the winter, there are times when less than 1%

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of our electricity needs are generated from wind farms. But,

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hang on, at the lights didn't go out, did they? Know they did not.

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Because there have to be back-ups - - back-up stations, gas or coal.

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And as these power stations switched on and off, the use more

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fuel and admit more carbon in exactly the same way as when you're

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driving your car. So the car in is getting emitted in bigger

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quantities. That is not being green. And the person who is paying for it

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is the householder. Fuel poverty is rising and the Eco zealots at think

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it is fine. It is not. APPLAUSE. am not and you wind farm. I think

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they are all right if they are in the right place. And if people and

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the planners and the Government listen to local communities. I do

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not just say that because my son at belts wind farms, but I have two

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main issues here. One was raised by Anne Cowan. That is that despite

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what local communities say, now I represent the area that is the last

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wilderness in Europe. Tourism is our main industry in the Highlands.

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20% of Dot -- of jobs are in hospitality. People do have serious

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concerns in the Highlands and Islands about where wind farms are

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and the effect on tourism and the effect on their lives. These are

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not unreasonable people and they are not people who are anti- wind

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farm 100%. They are reasonable people putting forward reasonable

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views to their elected members and the elected members vote against

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the wind farms, the communities have petitions and petitions

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against the wind farms, but they know in their Hearts that when that

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application get to the Scottish Government, because of the pursuit

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of renewable targets, their voices will not be heard. I do not think

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there is anybody here who is anti- renewable energy. I think we have

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seen the role of renewable energy has to play, whether it is Hydro,

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biomass, alter our technologies. I think there are many people who on

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a small-scale pieces would except wind onshore or offshore. But what

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people are fed up with is the headlong rush into onshore wind

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farm development. I am joined now from Troon by the

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Scottish Conservative leader of Ruth Davidson. Congratulations on

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your maiden speech to conference. I would like a bit more detail

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about... Not my maiden speech! would like a little bit more detail

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about this umbrella group that you're trying to forge with it the

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other Unionist parties. You were setting out your stall as the

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premier Unionist Party in asking others to join you. What we have

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done at this conference is unveil our own campaign group called

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Conservative friends to the union and asked people, anyone who wants

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to help campaign, as we said yesterday we will link that in with

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the umbrella group when it comes forward. I said today that the

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people of Scotland are looking for all political leaders of Tunis

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parties to work together and that is what I plan to do. So will we

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get arable Goldie working with Alistair Darling? Is that the top

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of the umbrella group? You know you're fishing for information and

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I do not think I am the right person to give it you. I will be

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working with John Lamond and David Mundell from my own party to make

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sure that there is a concerted you that all unionists across Scotland

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and the ANC political leadership in this. What is more important in

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this is that it is not just about people who are members of political

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parties, it is about civic Scotland as well. It is about academics, the

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business community, just ordinary voters who are happy and proud to

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be Scottish, may even feel more Scottish than British, but they

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still feel British to and they do not want that British part of them

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taken away. You work Topping in your speech and you accused -- you

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accused Alex Salmond of dithering. You're not paying much heed to the

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Westminster consultation on this. We have seen a good response to the

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Westminster consultation. I have always said that I want to see a

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question put to the people of Scotland because I think delay is

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damaging business. We have had a number of businesses come out and

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say the very same thing. Are they are saying that this sort of delay

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is damaging business. What you are actually promising and in terms of

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more powers for Scotland. David Cameron said yesterday that he was

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open to the transfer of more powers. Are you are open-minded about that?

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Because David Cameron pulled the rug from underneath your famous

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line in the sand which you announced last November. What I was

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saying last summer or when I was talking about the Scotland Bill was

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that the most important thing was to get that bill it in and working

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on the ground to see that massive transfer of powers that is coming

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and I am pleased to see this week that we have an agreement between

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Scotland's two governments that these powers will be transferred.

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It is the biggest transfer of fiscal power in more than 300 years

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and as I was saying today, let us look at using those powers. I

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aspire for Scotland to be a look at -- low-tax economy. What more

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powers could there be? You were saying yesterday that will be

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announced after the referendum. It is it surprising we have no general

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overall strategic approach to the United Kingdom or a full also be

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about what powers there could be. think the question here is about

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what Scotland wants. Does it want a separate Scottish state or does it

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want to be part of a devolved United Kingdom? That is the

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question. Then if there are calls from other people and to debates

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within political parties, debates going on across so that Scotland,

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in people's houses round the dinner people about whether they want more

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powers or not, then let us look at that. As far as I see it, there is

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no consensus. I am keen to see what it is that Scotland wants.

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people like Alex Ferguson are supporting that all --. Looking at

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the Scotland Bill, you are looking quite centre right. In other

1:54:441:54:54
1:54:541:54:55

speeches you have made... How does that go down in Scotland? I empt

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the leader of a centre-right party so I hardly think that is a

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revelation or their headline of the day! I think I was quite clear in

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the speech when I said that we need to look at what the economic

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situation is in Scotland, but as a centre-right party we aspire to use

1:55:151:55:20

the tax varying powers that be have in Scotland for to lower taxes.

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were also talking about a reform of the party. As the former Tory MSP

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said, if the party was a faithful old found it to be on the way to

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the vet to be cut out of its misery. Do you think it is the end of the

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road? Can you attract new voters? think the only people who got put

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out of the Conservative Party was Brian Monteith! The opinions that

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are in caring about his change in the party and I was given a mandate

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to change the party. We have got people coming to our party. When I

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was elected there were fewer than 9,000 members, we now have more

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than 11,000 members. I hope very much that we can use the platform

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at the local Government elections as the next stage in our revival in

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Scotland, I do think when it comes to this issue... Our support for

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the United Kingdom is in our DNA. Are you more Scottish or more

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British? I am Scottish, I am British, I'm conservative and I'm

1:56:381:56:43

proud of all three. It does not matter to people out there in which

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proportion they are, but if they want to stay part of Britain and to

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know what Alex Salmond to take their Britishness away from them,

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they will vote to save the Union. Thank you very much.

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Just time for one final thought in the company of Professor John

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Carter's. Any thoughts on that? There are a couple of things I will

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take from this. One is that the Conservatives are acknowledging

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that most people in Scotland are at more likely to feel Scottish than

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Britain but also appreciate that people of Scotland also feel

1:57:181:57:22

British and the are opening -- hoping to strengthen that sense of

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Britishness and appealed to that for to build their case for the

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union. The second thing I take from this is I am still not very clear

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and I do not think the public are very clear as to where the

1:57:371:57:39

Conservatives stand on whether or not Scotland might have more

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devolved power within the Union. We are told it seems that we are not

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going to be told anything before 2014, your Ruth Davidson has

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suggested that she wants to wait to see how the powers are in effect

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which is not until 2016. At the same time, she also said yesterday

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that she is thinking of building policy proposals that will be in

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the Conservative's 2015 manifesto. That does not all add up. It is

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difficult to believe that you can have a policy that you would not

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announce before 2014 and you certainly cannot announce that

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policy for the 2015 manifesto if you have to wait for the Scotland

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Bill powers to be introduced in 2016. I think in truth the

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Conservatives still need to get their act together on this issue.

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