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Hello and welcome to a slightly damp Westminster for the may edition of

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Scottish questions. Coming less than a week after the elections to the

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Holyrood parliament. Down here there is one issue that is dominating

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politics. That is the EU and the upcoming referendum. Should the UK

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stay in or should it leave the EU? As we are about to find out, it was

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that question and discussions around it, that dominated Scottish

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questions. Order, order. I have to tell the

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house that yesterday, together with other right honourable and

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honourable members, I attended upon Her Majesty The Queen to deliver the

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House's message of congratulations on her 90th birthday. Her Majesty

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made the following reply... Members of the House of the is, I am most

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grateful to you for your address on the occasion of my 90th birthday. I

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have been deeply touched by the many messages of congratulations, which I

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have received on this particular birthday. And I warmly reciprocate

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the good wishes of members of the House of, is at this time. In order.

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Questions to the Secretary of State for Scotland. Patricia Gibson.

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Question number one, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, can I begin by

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congratulating Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish National Party on

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achieving the largest number of seats in last week's Scottish

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Parliament elections. And say I look forward to working with her and the

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new Scottish Government for the benefit of the people of Scotland. I

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would like to answer questions one, two, three, six, seven and eight

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together. The government's position is Scotland and the UK will be

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stronger, safer and better off remaining in a reformed EU.

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Membership of the EU reduces costs for Scottish businesses, supports

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jobs in Scotland and provides an export market currently worth 11.6

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billion pounds. A rerun of a project fear from the Prime Minister will

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not win the European referendum. Stories of war, genocide and

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economic crashes are not in keeping with making a positive case for the

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EU. Can Secretary of State tell the House when we hear the positive case

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for remaining the EU? Can I add my congratulations to the honourable

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lady's Husband on his re-election to the Scottish Parliament, where I am

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sure his witty repartee will be welcomed. What I say to the

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honourable lady, is she and her colleagues repeatedly called for a

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positive campaign for Scotland to remain in the EU, but all we hear

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about from then is process and calls for a second recommend. I call on

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them to disregard that approach and start setting out the positive case

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themselves. The UK Government has shown disregard for Scotland's

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higher education by scrapping the poster do work Visa against the

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unanimous wishes of the business and Scottish political parties. Does the

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Secretary of State accept a crippling effect is EU referendum is

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having in its ability to attract young talent to Scotland? What I

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believe is the biggest issue that faces Scotland currently, is the

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uncertainty over the Scottish Government's inability to rule out a

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second independence referendum, which they could quite easily do. I

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look forward to the First Minister, if she is re-elected, setting out

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clearly we aren't going to have a second independence referendum. The

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Scottish affairs select committee has carried out a good report into

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the Visa issue and the government is looking at it. Does the Secretary of

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State considered the 60% of the UK landings in Scotland, a Scottish

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Fisheries Minister should lead during the UK presidency of the EU?

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Is the Secretary of State still stuck in this Westminster rut of

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some nations being more equal than others? Mr Speaker, my position is

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Scotland voted to remain part of the United Kingdom and that the United

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Kingdom represents Scotland's interests on fishing in the EU. The

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honourable lady may be aware the Scottish Government and UK

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Government have been discussing intergovernmental relations, and in

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particular how these issues of representation at the EU should

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work. My understanding is the SNP previously were in agreement with

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those proposals. This week report was critical of the UK Government's

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approach to the energy sector, saying it is not only stalling

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investment were jeopardising UK energy security. Does the Secretary

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of State agreed the best way for Scotland's energy policy to

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developers within the EU? I absolutely agree that it is in the

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best interests of Scotland to remain in the EU and it is in the best

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interests of Scotland to remain in the UK. Because it has been clearly

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set out the best way forward for Scotland's energy sector is to have

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a UK wide common market. We clearly want the UK to remain part of the

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EU, I am wondering if the Secretary of State's mission is to antagonise

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as many Scots as possible before the referendum. Will he agree, should

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Scotland be dragged out of the EU against its will, it will be a major

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constitutional change? The honourable gentleman might be

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interested to know that tomorrow night I am sharing a platform with

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the former deputy leader of the SNP, where I will be making the positive

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case for Scotland remaining in the EU. I understand he will be making

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the case for Scotland leaving the EU. The Royal College of psychiatry

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has warned that UK leaving the EU would remove rights for psychiatric

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uses. Would he join me in safeguarding mental health and

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prevent any attempts for Scotland to leave the European Convention on

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human rights? The honourable lady is aware that the government is going

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to bring forward a consultation on a bill of rights post the EU

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referendum. But I do agree with her, the united kingdom remaining in VUE

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is for the benefit of everyone in Scotland. Mr Speaker, would the

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Secretary of State agreed that the government is split on the issue of

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when we should remain in the European Union, just as the SNP are.

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Would the secretary of state say it is embarrassing for the government

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to be associated with that lot? Mr Speaker, what this government does

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which the Scottish National Party doesn't always do is respect people

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have different opinions. My view is very firmly that Scotland should

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remain in the EU, but I recognise and respect there are people in

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Scotland, including SNP voters and supporters who want Scotland to

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leave the EU. Therefore, that is why we are having a referendum, that is

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why we are having a debate and the people will have their say. Mr

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Speaker, why hasn't my right honourable friend emphasised that

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when we leave the European Union, the Scottish Parliament, the

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Scottish Government and the Scottish people will have control over

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Scottish fishing waters? I don't leave, Mr Speaker, the best

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interests of Scottish fishermen, Scottish farmers or the general

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population of Scotland would be served by leaving beat you. Because

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my honourable friend, will note that large amounts of fish, particularly

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shellfish caught off the west coast of Scotland, goes to a European

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market. Does my right honourable friend agree that Scotland, like the

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rest of the United Kingdom, would be safer if it left the European Union,

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because as the former head of MI6 has said, Britain is Europe's leader

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in intelligence and security matters and gives much more than it gets in

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return? No. What assessment has the Secretary of State undertaken as to

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why the SNP are so keen on the EU, when it is clear the EU is in the

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global economic slow lane, when the EU unemployment rates are so much

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higher, including youth unemployment, over 50% in certain

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countries. And the common fisheries policy, has over the years,

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decimated the Scottish fishing fleet? Mr Speaker, I do know the

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inherent contradiction in the SNP position because every argument they

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use for Scotland remaining in the EU were arguments they dismissed in

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relation to Scotland remaining in the United Kingdom. On this

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occasion, I will forgive them, because I believe, like them, it is

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in Scotland's best interest to remain in the EU. A pensioner in my

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right honourable friend's constituency would like to say how

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pleased she is at having two things to choose from and is seeking

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reassurance in a reformed EU as a pensioner, she will be better off? I

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am absolutely clear that the reforms which the Prime Minister brought

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forward will improve the EU for pensioners and citizens right across

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Scotland. I also believe it is not the end of the reform process. The

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EU is not perfect, even after these reforms. It is up to the UK to lead

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in reforming the EU, not withdraw from it. I know the Secretary of

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State will be aware the EU is based on its current member state. What

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assessment has been made of the Scottish Parliament election results

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in ensuring the integrity of one of its largest members and removing the

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prospect of Scotland having to join as a new member? What I would say to

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my honourable friend, there was a clear message from last week's

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Scottish Parliament elections. The people of Scotland don't want

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another referendum. I hope the First Minister has heard that message loud

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and clear. The EU referendum is about the UK's membership of the EU.

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It is not a rerun of the Scottish Independence Referendum Bill. Can I

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take this opportunity to congratulate all MSPs elected last

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week and the SNP historic third term in government in Scotland. I do have

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to say in Edinburgh South, it was a net gain from the SNP. Can I

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congratulate the secretary of state on his son Oliver being elected to

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the Scottish Parliament. They also both have fetching beards. With the

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word fetching the used loosely! The evidence is clear the UK and

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Scotland are stronger in the EU. In the Scottish context, 42% of

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exports, a quarter of a million jobs, 10% of higher education

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spending and a whole host of social protection. Can the Secretary of

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State give assurance that all MSPs will be campaigning to stay in the

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European Union? I thank the honourable gentleman for his

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congratulations and the congratulations to my son. The high

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point of the election for me was when somebody on the door said, you

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look a lot like your dad. But that aside, what I can assure him, is

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there will be a robust and proper debate in Scotland. Ruth Davidson,

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head of the beginning of this referendum process, made her

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position very clear on supporting Scotland remaining in the EU. But we

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cannot hide the fact there are people in Scotland who would like to

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leave the EU. I think their views should be reflected. The

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Conservative Party isn't frightened in Scotland to hide the fact there

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are different views. There are different views across Scotland.

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The Secretary of State has not told us what Oliver's response was.

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Everyone knows that this referendum is more about settling old scores in

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the Conservative Party than doing what is best for the UK and indeed

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Scotland. They also know that the SNP are desperate for any excuse to

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trigger another referendum. The truth is, and we all know, that the

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UK is better in the EU and Scotland is better off in the UK. Isn't it

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the case that the Secretary of State has taken a huge gamble with the

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future of the UK and the future of Scotland? Absolutely not. What we

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have done is to allow the people of Scotland and the people across the

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United Kingdom to have their say on this important issue. And they will

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do. And we need to have a debate in Scotland. I am campaigning

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vigorously, as he appears to be, for Scotland to remain in the EU. People

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like Jim Sillars are campaigning for Scotland to leave the EU. Let's have

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a vigorous debate in Scotland over the next few weeks and I look

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forward to sharing a platform with him and SNP colleagues.

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May I add my congratulations to the election of Oliver on Dell to the

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Scottish Parliament? Candy Secretary of State confirm that he will

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continue to champion the Scotland Bill, which he passed through this

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House, which is given so much powers to the Scottish Parliament, to

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ensure that Scottish people continue to benefit not just being in the UK,

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but being in the EU as well? Thank you for that from my honourable

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friend. I must get my son elected more often because there are more

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plaudits today than I recall ever previously at Scottish questions!

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What I would say to him is that of course we will move forward with the

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implementation of the Scotland Bill. But we will also work hard to

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achieve a positive outcome for Scotland in the EU referendum. Does

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the Secretary of State agree that the high levels of support in

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Scotland for remaining in the European Union could be improved

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further still if Scottish farmers could be confident they can get

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their capital payments when they are supposed to? The right Honourable

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gentleman raises a very important point. The reason the payments have

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not been made to farmers in Scotland is due to the previous SNP Scottish

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government. And any attempts to suggest it was the EU is incorrect.

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I think that farmers and others know the benefits to Scotland of being in

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the EU and will vote to remain. If the EU were to withdraw from the EU,

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what impact would this have on Scotland and the EU relationship

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with Malawi, which I know my honourable friend has recently been

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to? My honourable friend knows that I did recently visit Malawi. And

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without being indiscreet, I can firmly say the Malawian government

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are in favour of Scotland and the UK staying in the EU. It seems like a

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minority of Scottish people want to leave the EU. What is his message,

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as Secretary of State, what is his message to the Scottish people if we

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are taken out of the EU against our National Collective well? I think

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that is another positive campaigning point from the SNP. It is not for me

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to give the SNP advice. But if my vote had fallen by 500,000 from the

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general election, I would be focusing on getting my supporters

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out to vote on the 23rd of June to ensure that Scotland votes to

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remain. We on these benches are delighted that in the run-up to the

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European Union referendum, the Scottish electorate has returned a

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pro-European SNP government. Returned with the highest vote of

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any party currently Anni were in national elections Anni were in

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Western Europe. -- anywhere. Most people in Scotland are very pleased

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that when given the opportunity the Scottish electorate did not return a

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single MSP from the UK Independence Party and there is a majority in the

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Scottish parliament for Scottish independence as a member of the

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European Union. On the case for remaining in the EU -- EU, will the

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UK government concentrate police are making a positive and inspiring case

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to stay rather than warming endless scare stories up? I made it clear to

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the honourable gentleman that that is exactly what my intention is.

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Perhaps he could undertake today to stop obsessing about process and a

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second Scottish Independence Referendum, and concentrate himself

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entirely on the positive reasons for Scotland remaining in the EU. If

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Scotch whiskey is the largest net goods exporter to the European

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Union, both from Scotland and for the United Kingdom as a whole, does

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the Secretary of State agree that the European single market is

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profoundly important and positive for the ?1 billion of trade, meaning

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there is no need for customs forms, duplication of labelling and safety

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requirements? Will heat stress the positive advantages to the whiskey

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industry and all exporters from Scotland, to jobs and profitability,

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by remaining within the European single market and the European

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Union? I am absolutely clear that what the honourable gentleman states

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is the case and I am sure that he will have welcomed the visit to

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Scotland yesterday my right friend, the secretary of state for Defra, to

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stress the importance to the whiskey industry of remaining within the

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single market. The particular pointy makes about duplication in relation

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to labelling certification and licensing our once which the Scotch

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Whisky Association have made, and once the public will take into

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account in voting in the referendum. Of course this is an important

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sector and it faces difficult times. That is why I am delighted the

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Chancellor announced a ?1 billion package in the budget reducing

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headline rates of tax, major investment opportunities and

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encouragement in exploration, infrastructure, and a quarter of ?1

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billion Aberdeen city deal along with the creation of

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interministerial groups specifically targeting the oil and gas sector.

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Does the Minister agree that we need a long-term approach to secure the

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future of the jobs in the oil and gas industry in the North Sea? And

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that part of the future is making sure the skills developed over many

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decades are not lost? I could not agree with my honourable friend

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more. That is why, as I said, we have established an interministerial

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group specifically looking at this and many other issues. In this -- in

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a short period of time we will publish our workforce plan.

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The gas industry provides vital stocks to Britain's largest

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manufacturing sector. Can the Minister assure the House the

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government will continue to support as many jobs as it can in this vital

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sector? The short answer is of course, yes. I would like to pay

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tribute to my honourable friend for the work he does in relation to

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chemicals. In very important sector. I'm very pleased to see the sort of

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work they are doing to increase exports. Last week I raised concerns

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related to the transatlantic trade and investment and the threat to our

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public services. Only for these to be dismissed by the Prime Minister

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row. -- PM. With the Secretary of State make representations to the

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Prime Minister to insist on specific exemptions? Mr Speaker, on this

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dispatch box, I and other ministers have repeatedly said that these

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sorts of claims... I'm waiting for the honourable member to take his

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seat. I do not wish to be rude to the honourable lady, but this is

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absolute rubbish she puts forward. The Prime Minister is absolutely

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right. This is a red herring. I undertake to share with her all of

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the letters from impartial sources that have written to support our

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intention that public services, especially the NHS, have no threat

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whatsoever. It is a good idea. The Minister, I

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hope, is aware of the increasing anxiety of Scottish entities

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ironworkers about reductions in investment in safety offshore and

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the failure of many companies to work what personally would trade

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union safety representatives. What recent assessment has she made of

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safety offshore? What can we say to our constituents to reassure them

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the government is on the case? Can I thank the honourable gentleman

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for his question? He makes some very important points. I am more than

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happy to meet with him to discuss these, including any allegations

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that the unions have not been fully engaged with. I do not have

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difficulty with trade unions. More than happy to meet to discuss this

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important matter. The trade union act is now waiting

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Royal assent. I should say it is about employment and industrial

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relations law, which are reserved matters and will deploy consistently

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across the United Kingdom. We have engaged with the Scottish government

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through the passage of the bill and we will carry on with that work.

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Despite the trade union bill's worst elements being removed or water

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down, it is still a bad bill. Does the Secretary of State agree that a

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bad bill will not make for good industrial relations in Scotland? I

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do not share his views on the act. I think it is an excellent act and I

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fully support it and its aims. Parties in Wales and Scotland have

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prepared legislative consent memorandums on the trade union Bill

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on the basis that it clearly impinges on devolved competencies.

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In the light of this thus the Minister not know agree that builds

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should be subject to legislative consent motion is? What action with

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the government to take to ensure that similar circumstances do not

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arise in future? I am reliably informed that has. I think the

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honourable lady is just not up to date. Row with the relegation of

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labour to third place in the Scottish Elections Bill, with the

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Minister agree that now is exactly the right time to be introducing an

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opt in system for union members rather than it being a default

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position? The honourable lady makes a very good point. Can I pay

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handsome tribute to the outstanding Ruth Davidson? Like the Prime

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Minister, she is a moderate, sensible conservative, one nation

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Conservative. She has turned the skies of Scotland blue with, if I

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may say, a Roz -- a rather pleasing tint of pink at the edges.

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The government made a number of concessions on the trade union act

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but the act still seeks to undermine constrictive social partnership.

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Given that the government says that it believes in mutual respect

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between central government and the devolved institutions, will it now

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hold immediate discussions with the devolved institutions about how the

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act will relate to Scotland and Wales? Discussions are always

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continuing. I think this is another red herring. The honourable

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gentleman is out of touch. The act is good for Britain, good for trade

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unions, good for future working relations.

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I'm afraid that is all we have time for at the moment. Because of the

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Parliamentary calendar, the next Scottish questions will be on the

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6th of July, when we will know the result of that all-important EU

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referendum. I would imagine that and the fallout from that vote will

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dominate the next Scottish questions.

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From all of us, goodbye.

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