12/10/2016 Scottish Questions


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Hello and a very warm welcome to a decidedly

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autumnal Westminster for October's

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Scottish Questions, the first one since the party

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political conference season.

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Before then it was about Brexit and now it is all

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about Brexit.

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In fact, Scottish Questions could be summed up in

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three words, Brexit, Brexit, Brexit.

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Here's how proceedings got underway.

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Order, order.

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Questions to the Secretary of State for Scotland,

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Carol Monaghan.

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Can I begin by commending you, not only on your

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attendance at the Davis Cup semifinal in Glasgow, but for your

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obvious enthusiasm and exuberance which the honourable lady for

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Glasgow Central and I were witness to and I'm sure you'll agree that

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although the result was not as we would have wished,

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the event once again confirmed Glasgow's place as a

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great sporting venue.

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Mr Speaker, with permission I will answer

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questions one, two and four together.

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The UK leaving the EU should be seen as an opportunity

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for Scotland.

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Today's GDP figures are encouraging as a sign of growth.

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But Scotland still lags behind the UK as

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a whole and that underlines the need for Scotland's two governments to

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work together to take such opportunities.

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You and your daughter did a fantastic job again.

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As did the constituency member of Parliament.

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Given that Brexit continues to be billed

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as taking back control, can the Secretary of State tell us which

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powers that are currently controlled by Brussels will the UK Government

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commit to giving to Holyrood and which we'll be going to Westminster?

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Because of devolution settlements within the UK, they are predicated

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on the basis that the UK was a member of the EU then those

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devolution settlements will be changed by the United Kingdom

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leaving the EU and those will be matters which will be subject to

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debate and discussion.

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I am not entirely certain the Secretary of

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State answered that question.

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Will he categorically rule out that powers

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will not be re-reserve to this Parliament

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as a result of the decision to leave the EU?

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What I can say is that no powers which are

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currently exercised by the Scottish parliament will be re-reserved to

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this Parliament as a result of the United Kingdom leaving the EU.

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With a constituency that has an industry

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that's right interest in having a large

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pharmaceutical production and airport,

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can I ask what the view will be

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on the single market, the open skies

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and the European Medicines Agency?

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Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister at the Conservative

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conference made very, very clear that we

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want to have access to the single market

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and that we want to ensure free trade.

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The sectors she has mentioned are very important and

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are part of a group of sectors we are in gauging closely with to

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identify their specific interests and concerns so that they will be

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part of the UK's negotiating position.

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Is it not the case there should be a substantial boost to

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Scottish exports as a result of the depreciation

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of the pound since the Brexit vote?

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Well, Mr Speaker, sectors within Scotland would

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acknowledge, for example, the tourism sector where we saw

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a record attendance at the Edinburgh Festival

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recently, have benefited from the devaluation of the pound.

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I think the agricultural sector in Scotland

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would acknowledge that, too.

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But I don't see that as being an end in itself.

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We need to ensure we get the best possible deal

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for Scotland and the UK from these negotiations

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It is right to say we leave a dysfunctional union

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in the European Union and it's an opportunity for

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the people of Scotland.

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Is it not also the case that if we were to

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follow the SNP policy, we would land the people of Scotland

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with a huge public sector deficit and the prospect of either tax rises

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or cuts in services?

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That is absolutely right and it seems to be

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a very strange contradiction that members on the benches opposite are

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rightly so concerned about Scotland's

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continued trade with the EU,

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but they disregard the fact that Scotland's

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trade with the rest of the UK

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is four times as much is with the EU

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and that a million jobs in Scotland

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depend on our trade within the UK and that's the

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union that matters to Scotland.

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Thank you.

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Given the importance of that single market to Scotland, does

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my right honourable friend agree that the last thing the Scottish

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economy needs is perpetual uncertainty of another

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independence referendum?

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Mr Speaker, if anyone actually listens to businesses in Scotland,

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and indeed to the people of Scotland, it's quite clear that

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people do not want another divisive independence referendum

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in Scotland other than individuals who are

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obsessed with independence.

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We need to listen to business, take a second

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independence referendum off the table and

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concentrate on getting the best possible deal

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for Scotland and the UK from these negotiations.

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With demands from Nissan suggesting the company will suffer

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a loss in profits may be due compensation, can the Secretary of

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State ensure businesses in Scotland that they will be entitled

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to the same deal?

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If that's the case, has he made an assessment of the cost of

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such compensation?

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Can I begin by congratulating the honourable gentleman on retaining

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his position as a Shadow Scottish Secretary.

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On the benches behind him, I understand is the Westminster

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spokesman of the Scottish Labour Party and I'm sure it will emerge

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during these questions how those two positions interrelate.

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The point I would make in response to the question

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is that we will have a common response across the UK and

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whatever support is put in place for businesses in the North

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of England will apply for businesses in Scotland.

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Scotland has always looked out to the world.

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Could the government do

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more to rekindle the outlook in Scotland rather than the First

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Minister creating uncertainty and constantly talking about

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independence?

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I agree that we need to see Brexit as an opportunity and

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I was very interested to see yesterday that the leader of Glasgow

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City Council also took that view that Brexit offered an opportunity

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for Glasgow to continue to flourish.

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So rather than doom-mongering which is a constant refrain of the SNP,

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let's take a positive approach and seize the opportunities that are out

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there for Scotland.

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May I remind the Secretary of State for Scotland

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that he was elected on a manifesto commitment

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to "Safeguard British interests in the single market".

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So will he and his government work with the Scottish Government,

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respect the 62% of Scottish voters who voted to remain

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within the European Union and protect our place within Europe?

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Of course I will do that, but I will also respect

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the half of voters in his own constituency

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who voted to leave the EU.

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The right honourable gentleman doesn't make much of it, Mr Speaker,

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but a higher percentage of people in his constituency

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voted to leave the EU than voted for him,

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so let's respect everybody in this debate.

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I'm committed...

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I am committed to working with the Scottish Government.

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I've met Michael Russell on a number of occasions,

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the First Minister and the Prime Minister will meet on the

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24th October and their engagement will be essential to achieving what

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we want, the best possible deal for Scotland.

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Yesterday we learned from statistics that the cost Brexit will cost

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?66 billion a year.

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If this is being prepared for the Cabinet Office,

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surely they are also being prepared for the

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Scotland Office so will

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the Secretary of State for Scotland be candid with the house and candid

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with the people of Scotland and tell us how much will Brexit cost?

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We're not even at the stage of the negotiations.

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What the Prime Minister has set out the process

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for taking the negotiations forward, it's inevitable that we

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will see press reports and speculation, leaks and all sorts of

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other supposition.

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What I want to do is to ensure that going into those

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negotiations, we do so in conjunction with the Scottish

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Government to get the best possible deal and that's what

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my commitment is.

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Thank you.

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Has the Secretary of State seen the report published

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yesterday showing that one half of all commercial fish and two

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thirds of all pelagic fish caught in UK waters

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were caught by boats from other EU countries?

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Does he understand why Scottish fishermen

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see these negotiations as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to

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undo the damage caused by the Common Fisheries Policy.

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Mr Speaker, I commend the Scottish Fishermen's Federation

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and others as to their approach in relation

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to the negotiations.

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They see them as an opportunity for the very reasons

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that he refers to in yesterday's report.

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They were quite right to characterise the report and they

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have my support in achieving that.

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It is an assessment on the impact of the Scottish economy...

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Some people are demanding that Scotland leave

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the UK market week in and week out.

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As I said earlier, I find it very surprising

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that people who set out a great enthusiasm

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for the European single market at the same time are

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willing to dismiss the UK single market

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which is worth four times as much

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to the Scottish economy and employs

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a million Scottish people.

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Today's GDP figures in Scotland are welcome

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and the major increase is a result

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of the services sector, probably driven by the financial

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services sector in Scotland.

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So what is the Secretary of State doing to

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protect that sector and can he give an assurance that he will

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stand by the Conservative Party's commitment in the 2015 manifesto

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that he says "Yes" to the single market?

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We fully recognise the importance

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of the financial sector in Edinburgh and Scotland

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more generally.

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I'm determined the interests will be protected and we

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are working closely with them to make sure

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they are very much to the forefront

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as we move forward with establishing the UK's

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negotiating position.

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Question three, Mr Speaker.

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With permission, I will answer questions three, six

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and seven together.

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Since the referendum, Scotland's office ministers have

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held meetings to discuss the implications for Scotland.

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We intend to hold further such meetings to

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ensure Scottish business interests are fully represented in the

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negotiations on the UK's exit from the EU and in any

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future trade arrangements.

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Does my right honourable friend agree that when we

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negotiate free-trade deals outside of the EU

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we can remove some of the protectionist

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tariffs barriers the EU has erected thereby reducing

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consumer prices for consumers in Scotland

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and, indeed, the whole of the UK?

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I do agree with my honourable friend and I believe that this government

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and this country can be an advocate around the world for free trade.

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Trade liberalisation between advanced economies can have a

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positive impact on the consumer and that's what we want to see in

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Scotland and across the UK.

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He gets the maximum opportunities for Scottish business,

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but also uses as an opportunity to demonstrate

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that Scotland is better as part of the United Kingdom

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and knock on the head all this talk of independence which

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we incessantly hear from the party opposite.

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Mr Speaker, I agree with my right honorable friend.

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It is vital that we promote Scotland's

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interests in that way but that we do so working

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in conjunction with the Scottish Government.

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Both governments can have a role to play.

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As the Scotch Whisky Association has identified in developing new markets

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in promoting that vitally important product's future.

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Exports of Scotch with are up for the first

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time in three years with a surge in exports to India.

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Should the UK work together to support the export of

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Great British products, including great Scottish products

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like whisky?

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Mr Speaker, I do as I said in my previous remarks and bodies

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such as the Scotch whisky Association

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acknowledge and accept that

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and they want to see the two governments working together in

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regard to that and that is what I am committed to doing.

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If the government leaves the European

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Union, via as specific trade arrangement with the EU, is he happy

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to fall back on WTO work organisations?

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Mr Speaker, I am sure that is the sort of speculation is

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sought from ministers over the weeks and months ahead.

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The Prime Minister has set out the process for

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negotiating our exit from the EU and the conclusion of that process

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I am confined we will have achieved the best possible deal

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for Scotland and the rest of the UK.

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The Secretary of State on many occasions extolled the

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trade benefits of the single market in Scotland.

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So regardless of whether the UK is a member state of

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the EU or not, does he still believe it is in Scotland's interest

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have membership of the single market rather than access third party

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access?

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As I have also said is that the United Kingdom will have abysmal

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-- bespoke arrangement with the EU when we leave.

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It is not appropriate or sensible

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to see the negotiating process and context of existing

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arrangements that have been done with other countries are the

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existing structure of the EU.

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What we should look to do is get the best

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possible deal for businesses.

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Our training bodies and organisations,

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business employees in Scotland are saying they are struggling on how

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the apprenticeship levy will work in Scotland.

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Can he ensure that unlike his colleague, he will work with the

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Scottish Government to give the people the information they need?

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I am committed to doing that and I can

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confirm that the apprenticeship levy will be discussed when the joint

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ministerial council meets on the 24th of October.

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What's are the areas in which these apprenticeships

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could work will be the decommission of the oil industry and oil rigs.

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We have already seen the loss of 80,000

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jobs in that industry.

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If we continue to lose contracts with

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decommissioning to other countries this will continue.

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Does the government have any strategy to make

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sure that these crucial jobs remaining Scottish fans?

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Mr Speaker, he will know the

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government is committed to the industry.

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It ?2.3 billion investments and associated tax

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changes were exactly what the industry asked

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in terms of support.

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We have also established along with the Scottish Government the ?250

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million Aberdeen city deal which will have at its heart a new

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technology centre to ensure skills and jobs remain in the north-east.

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Mr Speaker, a significant number of new welfare powers

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came into force this September.

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And gave the Scottish Parliament new choices of welfare in Scotland.

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The joint ministerial working group in Scotland met

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yesterday to continue it is important and constructive work

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overseeing the transfer of remaining powers.

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With that significant transfer of powers from the UK

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Government to Edinburgh, does he agree with me the

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Scottish Government should get on with exercising those powers

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for the sake and welfare of the people of

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Scotland, rather than wasting time on talk of a second referendum?

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I agree.

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These are significant powers which the Scottish Government and

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the Scottish National Party asked for.

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People around Scotland will be looking to see how

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they are being deployed and what processes are being used.

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I think the message coming from the people

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in Scotland generally is get on with the day job to

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the Scottish Government.

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I am sure yesterday at the joint ministerial working group,

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ministers would have stressed their desire

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to see work programmes on a voluntary basis.

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What efforts will his government make to ensure those are met?

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We will respect the desire for the programmes to proceed on a

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voluntary basis.

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And that has been made clear.

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What the people of Scotland will want to know is what

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the Scottish Government intends to do in relation to people

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who do not volunteer to be part of the programme.

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Question number eight, Mr Speaker.

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I will answer this question with question ten.

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The government closely with industry to drive

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investment and support jobs in the North Sea.

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Revenue from the North Sea oil has dropped by ?10 billion

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over the last two years.

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What steps is the government taking to ensure

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that public services in Scotland do not

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suffer as result of this drop in revenue?

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There has been a shock from global changes in the

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oil and gas industry.

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As the latest finance public figures show, being

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in the UK protects living standards in Scotland.

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This drop in revenues has been offset by a programme of

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government support in tax relief and allowances as well as a host of

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other areas.

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Supply of home-grown free stocks is important to...

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Can the Minister assure the house that the

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government will continue to take steps to support the many jobs of

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our foundation industries that depend on the sector?

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My colleague is right to highlight this issue.

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The UK chemicals sector is a vital part of our manufacturing industry

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and an important contributor to the economy.

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The government is working closely with the industry to

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implement the desire to grow by ?105 billion by 2030.

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A key element of that will be delivering to energy

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and feedstock supplies.

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Industry have been quite clear that more work

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needs to be done to boost exploration.

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In the Autumn Statement will this government bring forward

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exploration incentives to protect employment and boost production?

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It remains an important part, the continental

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shelf is depleting.

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The government has taken serious steps

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in this area in Aberdeen with the city deal and I am not going to

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comment on the Autumn Statement.

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It is an issue of some focus for the government.

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Mr Speaker, since Question Time began this morning,

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five members on these benches have asked about membership of the

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European Union.

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Two have asked about Scottish jobs.

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Seven members of the Conservative benches want to talk

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about Scottish independence.

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Who is obsessed with Scottish independence?

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I could do no better than refer him

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to the words of Adam Smith when he said that the union of 77

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was a measure from which infinite good has been derived to Scotland.

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Order - there is far too much noise.

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He ought to be heard.

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Not quite a debutante.

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We can only hope.

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The steel industry in Scotland remains a

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vital part of the UK steel industry as a whole.

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The government continues to engage with steel companies and

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trade unions to in-store a sustainable industry for the UK for

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a future.

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Liberty House is taking more than 70% of its new workforce from

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among former Tata steel employees.

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It is to be congratulated for that which is good news for

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Motherwell.

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Would my honourable friend congratulate the

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company for its apprenticeship programme which is an endorsement of

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the industrial future of the country?

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My honourable friend is right to

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focus on the company under its new owners, liberty group,

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with the support of the government.

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This illustrates in supporting British

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Steel, we have taken clear action to help the industry, including

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flexibility over EU emissions regulations and many other areas.

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I share his delight in the work that is when done with the

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apprenticeships as well.

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During recess I attended the reopening of

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the works in Motherwell.

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Will the Minister speak to the Scottish

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Government on how you can save jobs in steel by putting together a

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package that really works?

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I am grateful to the honourable lady.

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The government stands ready to work with

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the Scottish Government to work on any area that can protect

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Scottish jobs and Scottish steel.

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I am afraid that is all we have got time for.

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The next Scottish Questions will be on Wednesday the 23rd of November,

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which is also the day of the Chancellor's Autumn Statement.

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So it will be a busy day here at Westminster.

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Do join us then if you can.

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From all of us here at Westminster, goodbye.

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