10/09/2011 Sinn Fein Party Conference


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10/09/2011

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It is the first party conference in this political season and for the

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first time Sinn Fein have brought their Ard Fheis north of the border.

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Welcome to the The Conference programme coming today from the

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Waterfront Hall. This gathering has been making use because of one of

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its keynote speakers, and he has not even been a member of Sinn Fein.

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We will hear some of what the Presbyterian Reverend Devon

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Vladimir has to save. -- David Latimer. First I am joined by Mark

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Devonport, our political editor. Changed times for Action Fein. --

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changed times for Sinn Fein. Normally we need south of the

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border and now it is north of the border. Most of the Sinn Fein

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conferences have been down in Dublin. I cannot recall a time when

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they would have had a mask man from the IRA addressing them, not a

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minister. We were at one stage in a community centre in a fairly

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private area of Dublin. But it is now part of the mainstream. I can

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recall a time when the Waterfront Hall, when it was open, was a

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target for a bomb alert. That was when Prince Charles officially

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opened it. This is symbolic of the journey that Sinn Fein have come on

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and some wider political processes in the country. Discussions last

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night indicated change as well. It was not necessarily the target for

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united Ireland by 2016. Martin McGuinness has been talking about

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the need for national conversation to change island in the next five

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years in the run up -- to change island in the next five years in

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the run up to the 100 years. There is a lot of rhetoric and people are

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interested in it David Latimer's appearance from last night. There

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has been a lot of interest from the Dublin media are on the Irish

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presidential campaign. Yes, there has been talk of having a president

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for all of Ireland. Citizens north of the border are not entitled and

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some think that should change. Given what has happened, the

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withdrawal of Senator David Norris, there is the feeling that people

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might want someone else to enter the race. This bubble might grow

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with the more Sinn Fein figures like Mary Lou McDonald. Possibly

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Michelle Gilda neo-, her name has been mentioned. -- Michelle

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Gildernew, her name has been mentioned. Sinn Fein has entered

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the race to try to take up some of the space that Fine Gael has

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indicated. What we will be getting at this weekend is the identity of

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the candidate. What did he make of the keynote Speaker last night?

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David Latimer was an interesting Speaker because there was a bad

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story to him. He is a Presbyterian minister who struck up a great

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friendship with Martin McGuinness after seeking his help and stopping

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his church being vandalised. He helped modernise the church. The

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chemistry between those two is very evident. He spoke in very moderate

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political tensions but overtly Christian and evangelical terms. --

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political terms. Some of the Presbyterian audience outside this

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area might have watched it and it might have put some of them off but

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he went down very well within Waterfront Hall when he used --

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called the Irish his friends and called the mind McGuinness one of

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the greatest Irish leaders. -- called Martin McGuinness one of the

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greatest Arras leaders. We will be hearing from Pearse Doherty. You

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are riding high after two successful elections. Is there a

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feeling of satisfaction? This is a departure for us, coming to Belfast.

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There is a good atmosphere around the Irish this weekend and we are

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looking forward to all of the speeches. There have been two

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elections and who knows if it will be the first presidential election

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or not. That decision will be made next week. There is the strong

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sense that we are growing. There are a lot of young people and new

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members here and there is a sense of a vibrancy. What about how the

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assembly is going? There are accusations from your critics that

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there is a double standard going on. You are able to say no to cuts in

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the south but you are quite about public sector cuts in the north.

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Our position is the same in both. We want to protect jobs and

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services. We are dealing with the impact of cuts. This is why the

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budget process took so long in the spring. We want to offset the

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damage the Tories have done and come up with new ideas and generate

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income so that we can protect vital services and public sector. We know

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we are in a difficult situation and there it is no way to escape

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unscathed. We want to protect jobs and public services and that has

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been approached right across Ireland. What is your view on that?

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There are many people who would say there is a double standard

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operating. Critics would say that you cannot stand in opposition in

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the south and say no to everything else. I do not think there is a

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double standard. Sinn Fein is a united party and we have the same

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principles north and south of the border. That is what our assembly

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team had been doing in terms of making sure that we have been able

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to diminish as much of the Tory cuts that people depend on. There

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is a reality where we do not have complete cohesion in the six

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counties and Sinn Fein are looking to regain economic sovereignty. Our

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economic sovereignty has been handed away to Brussels. We live in

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these two realities. The objectives are the same and that is to ensure

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that the cuts, wherever they happen, do not come down on the most will

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rubble and those on lower income has. -- most vulnerable. There was

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a conversation about uniting Ireland in the next five years. Do

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you accept that the 2016 target is gone? I do not think there was ever

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a 2016 target. There were emotions about bringing Ireland together by

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2016. There are some that would like it united by tomorrow morning.

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These are the issues we want to work out as soon as possible. We

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have seen the benefits economically and socially across all of the

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different Spears of society. What Martin McGuinness addressed last

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night is the changes that has happened in the last ideas and what

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he has put out there to the wider community across Ireland about the

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potential. What will Ireland look like in 2016? Will it look

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different? I hope that it does. I hope that... Island is not in a

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good place and we had huge cuts that are pushing down on people. --

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We need to address the legacy of the past and we are confident as

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Sinn Fein members that we are on the journey and we want to bring

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our fellow neighbours and friends from different communities and

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political perspectives on our journey and we are confident we can

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do that. We will hear more from these guests in a moment but this

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morning we have the First Deputy Minister, Martin McGuinness, who

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has been speaking about the moments of a decade ago. He has been

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talking about his thoughts on what happens on SEP- 11 to 2001 in New

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York. -- 11th September to 2001. Myself and Gerry Adams were at a

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meeting with the Taoiseach in Dublin. A civil servant rushed in

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and told us that a plane had hit at the World Trade Centre and of

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course we thought it was an accident. A short while later he

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came back and said that a second plane had hit the World Trade

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Centre and then we knew it was not an accident. Both myself and Gerry

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Adams had travelled to New York on many occasions and our first but

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work of concern for her many friends in that fine city. New York

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has been a long-time supporter of Irish freedom and we have many

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supporters in that city and throughout the United States. A

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great friend of Ireland who visited here on many occasions, Father

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Michael Judge, who was christened in Ireland, perished in the World

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Trade Centre on that day with so many others. He was a frequent

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visitor to Belfast and was a very badly injured. We thought the loss

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of a father judge was something that impacted as very personally

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indeed. It is important that as we said about uniting Ireland that we

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are conscious of the important role that Irish people across the role

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will play in that because that is the task that we as Republicans

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have set ourselves and four as republicanism is not rhetoric. It

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is real and it is in the here and now. Many people make the mistake

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of thinking that republicanism is about... That was Martin McGuinness

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speaking earlier. We can now go live to hear another Speaker.

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dealt a blow to the new beginning to policing. Not only was he wrong

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but we wonder why he defend the indefensible 40 years after the

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event. -- defend the indefensible. Sinn Fein will not like this happen.

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-- let this happen. The PSNI chief constable has a responsibility to

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prevent this also. He must face down the dinosaurs. He needs to

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attend a meeting with the community and the PSNI needs to atone for

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past wrongs. It is too late for Al Hutchinson. Three separate reports

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have condemned his leadership. I believe in fully accountable

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policing, therefore I want the credibility of the office to be

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restored. Al hundred saying is at the core of the problem -- Al

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Hutchinson is at the core of the problem so he is not the one to fix

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it. Let him hear it from this audience, he must go, he should go

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Sinn Fein is here to continue the momentum to represent a fully

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accountable service for the whole community. We will not stop until

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that is achieved. If we do not, no one will. That is why we are on the

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justice committee and dealing with police in partnerships. Our support

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for policing, up north and south, is critical support. That means

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that we will be the first to stand against problems in policing and

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the E E D -- and be the first to sort it out and sort out criminal

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We can speak again to Conor Murphy and Pearse Doherty who have stayed

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with us. Trews recovery was a bleak theme of Martin McGuinness's speak

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last night. -- trews recovery was a big theme. Some of the measures

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seem to have worsened things. They have not brought a sense of

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satisfaction and Gerry Kelly was referring to some of the problems

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with the ombudsman's office. I think that is linked to that. It is

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a very, very complex and difficult process but we have always argued

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that a pot-pourri -- a proper cruise recovery process needs to be

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one in which all parties are probably engaged. It needs to be

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international in terms of its make- up so that's why we do not have a

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sense of it being a under the ownership of anybody to a

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protagonist. We are very keen to see that happen. It may not deal

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with every issue that people have and every part of a legacy of a

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very bitter and violent conflict but there are steps needed. Just on

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that point, Martin McGuinness acknowledged last night that the

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other parties have not bought into your idea yet of the International

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truth Commission. Is it a first step towards trying to deal with

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the past, there should be all-party talks on the past. There are forums

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for all-party talks in the executive, in the Assembly. It is

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not the best venue to have this discussion. We have put forward

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ideas. I am not sure if others have ideas. It is necessary that we deal

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with the legacy of the conflict. It is a necessary step to try to get

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reconciliation, to deal with the past and trees -- the past and the

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hurt. It also involves the British Government and the Irish Government

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as well. That is where I said it needs to be a party in which every

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party is brought into. To genuinely try to bring about the ad prices.

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Martin McGuinness said last night he felt the British had not done

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enough, but it is that Republicans have done very little in terms of

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trews recovery. We have co-operated with the commission trying to

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recover bodies as well and it has been a difficult process but we

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have said it is very difficult to try to get one sort of organisation

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that is related to the conflict to come forward in the absence of

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every over. We want a genuine process that involves all

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protagonists. In that way we can bring everybody together and try to

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get some pleasure for many of the victims. How essential do you think

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it is, because in these economic times, considering the cost of some

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of the previous inquiries, something on an international level

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because presumably even more than something on a more local level. Do

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you think it is time to draw a line and it? If it depends if it is a

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legal or judicial process which can beat very costly. But if it does

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not necessarily involve lawyers, which tend to be the gate is to --

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greatest cost, perhaps we can have a process which is not costly but

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does give people the opportunity to ask questions to find out what

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happened to their loved ones and to get some sense of pleasure. You

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meet ten different families and there are 10 different solutions. -

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- some sense of closure. It is a chance to do us so in a genuine way.

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How important is true for recovery to your constituents and the

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electorate in the south? Are you dealing with two distinct

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electorate? Not really. The culprit was not just contained within the

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six counties. But our people in the South not now more concerned about

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jobs? Of course. We are not saying this is the priority but it is an

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element. If we are to move forward we needed and we need all the

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protagonists to come forward and engage in a meaningful way. So are

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not trying to frustrate it or keep information hidden or away from the

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families of the loved ones who lost their lives. We need that type of

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prisoners to move forward as decided. People are still hurting

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out there and we need some type of system. Sinn Fein have been very

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open and genuine in coming with this type of solution. It is not

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today or yesterday we have argued for such a system. We put it out

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there for a number of years now and there is an onus on both

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governments to engage with it. Pearse Doherty, to using with

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hindsight you would agree with David Latimer that the Queen, in

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visiting the sad and what she had to say there, that she actually

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played a positive role in the trying to come to terms with the

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past? -- the South. The visit to the garden of remembrance was

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significant. When we look back and we are talking about drugs recovery,

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the British Government are still refusing to hand over the files of

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those bombings even though the Irish Government has demanded it

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twice by a motion passed in that parliament. So when we are talking

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about the truce, and we are looking out where the British Government

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has a role to play. It affects the families, when you have the head of

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state, the British Queen, the English queen, coming over, head of

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the British Army, who were responsible in of view in part of

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the Dublin Monaghan bombings and not moving forward by handing over

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the files, we cannot move forward in a meaningful way. David Latimer,

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a Presbyterian minister from Derry, address to delegates here at the

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Ard Fheis. He's acceptance of the request to speak drew some

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criticism. David is my friend. We have different allegiances but that

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is all right. We have one thing in common. We believe in peace. We

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believe in moving forward together. We believe in sharing. It gives me

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a great, great pleasure to invite Thank you. My goodness. How can I

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followed Martin McGuinness? Frankly, I do not think I can, because I see

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him, Martin, I see you as one of the true great leaders of modern

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times. And my prayer is that he will be

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empowered and envisioned to take this forward in the inclusive way

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that he is committed to, and I hope he gets the support from others

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from within the other political parties, because it is together

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that we are going to build the future better and brighter.

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Martin did not tell you but he got me �1.6 million you know. I wonder

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what I am expected to do tonight for that! But I must tell you about

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a clergyman who was in a church for the first time and he was not quite

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sure if the acoustics were just functioning properly soap he saw

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somebody back in a corner and he said to them, can you are you all

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right? The person said, I can, but I wish I could change places with

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someone who can't! So do you want to change now? I heard you.

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That his Irish for friends and I begin intentionally with this word

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because that is what I firmly believe and in my script I have

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written I firmly believe we are to be coming -- we are becoming, but

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since arriving tonight I have been overwhelmed by the warmth and the

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magnitude of the welcome that I have received, right from the

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security men at the barriers as I came in, through the corridors and

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into this hall. I do not think I would have the same welcome in the

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general Assembly in Belfast. Your invitation to me, a Protestant

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minister, is, I must tell you, forward looking and timely. I used

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these words in a couple of interviews this week and do you

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know something? Do you see the deluge of messages I have been

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receiving from both our communities? I have been gobsmacked

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by it. Only about 5% of a massive amount of messages have been

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negative, and all the rest have been positive, which suggests to me

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out there There is a swathe of people who are looking for positive

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leadership so that together we can go forward. Is it possible, do you

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think, that the Democratic Unionists could see their way to

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invite a Catholic priest to address their party conference this year or

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next? I would like to think my Co religion lists would emulate what

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you have done, not for cheap publicity because that will not

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take us anywhere. Rather, in recognition, despite our respective

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Dublin or London preferences, which we have to learn to respect and

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accept, but despite our differing aspirations, we want to acknowledge

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that our destinies are tied up together and our futures are bound

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together, which means, ladies and gentlemen, that neither of us can

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continue to work alone and the more we do together as people on the

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street, the better we will shape our shared future. What will we do?

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We will keep moving forward together. We must not let the peace

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die. We will not let the peace die, and with a man of the hell like

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Martin, we can be sure of that. Four of you, my friends, -- for all

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of you, my friends, the nationalists and Catholics, for me,

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Presbyterian and Unionist, but together we are people made in the

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image of God. And it is as people that I share this lovely blessing.

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So listen to this, because it is for you and indeed it is the fall

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or are people. May the Lord show his mercy upon us. May the light of

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his presence be our guide. May he gardeners and a poll this. May his

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spirit be ever art our side. When we sleep, may his angels watch over

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us. When we wake, may you fill us with his grace. May we love him and

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serve him all our days, then in heaven, may we see his face through

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Jesus Christ our Lord. In the Name Of the Father, and of the Sun, and

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of the Holy spirit. Amen. SPEAKS IRISH. Have I got it right?

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Our guests are still with us. Conor Murphy, what did you make of the

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Reverend David Latimer? He was a welcome guest. It was important. In

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terms of the reconciliation process. But in terms of just relationship

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building, and a show of respect for other communities, his decision to

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come here was a courageous one for him. He was saying he has received

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a huge amount of support in doing that but also he will face some

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criticism and I think the genuine process of reconciliation takes

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leadership, takes people from our perspective to step out there and

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meet others halfway and people like David Latimer are doing that.

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talked about a day of recognition. Do you support that? Anything which

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contributes to a better prices of reconciliation, of engagement, can

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help. -- a process. We need much more than a day to try to resolve

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some of the legacy of the conflict, to try to share a future together

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in which we can build a better new Ireland. Anything which contributes

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to that should be supported. you imagine it happening, though?

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This is even difficult to talk about a memorial to the troubles.

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Yes, and I think that is the case and it shows you how complex an

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area it is. Some of these things are in danger of becoming

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superficial. It needs nice people from both communities to get

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together. But I think we want a genuine it conciliation -- a

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genuine reconciliation process. Last night there was a symbol of

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that engagement. As Martin McGuinness said, we have a genuine

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process of dialogue. Anything which contributes to that is helpful and

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welcome but it is a process which needs all of the participants

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bought into, which means Etude contribution from Evra body,

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particularly the British Government and Irish Government, and through

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that we can find a genuine process The last election we had Peter

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Robinson talking about Catholics voting for the DUP. Do you think

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that is realistic? I am sure there are people of Catholic faith and

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some of have no religious faith in Sinn Fein, and there had been

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people in the past from different religions. David Latimer addressing

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The Conference was very symbolic. It was good for in a Sinn Fein to

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goals and outside of them. Many people will think that someone from

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the Protestant faith has addressed a Sinn Fein event and it is not

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like that. We have had many different people from different

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religions address Sinn Fein at our conferences. It is just a process

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of outreach and engagement. We have talked about the journey that we

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would like to go on together. To bring that about we have to be

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engaged. It is about challenging all of us. David Latimer said that

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some of the things of that mark McGuinness says -- Martin

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McGuinness may challenge as but you have to take risks. Republicans

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have always take -- taking risks and challenged ourselves.. We have

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been trying to -- ourselves. We have been trying to gain some

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reconciliation for things that have happened in the past. We can hear

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from Mary Lou McDonald and a little of what she has been saying this

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morning. The real reform that we need means more integration and

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more responsive services. It means eliminating red tape and reversing

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the front line. It means capping the high-flyers at the top and

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ending the scandal of malty mention -- multi- million pension scandals.

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It means that Citizens young and old can access the services that

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they need. This is the reform agenda at that we in Sinn Fein will

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champion and support. We will vigorously oppose any moves to

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privatise services, to sell off valuable state companies and assets,

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or to scapegoat public servants. We have one minister who is completing

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a comprehensive spending review, of which there has been much talk in.

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I leave you with this final plot. As the minister peruses this --

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final thought. As the minister praises the spinal issues come up I

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astute -- B's final issues, I ask you to think about cutting from the

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top. Minister, know this, the ordinary people have a taking

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enough, and we in this party and in this Sinn Fein party, we stand

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shoulder to shoulder and if you come after us again we will come

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right back at you. That is Mary-Lou McDonald talking about important

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issues for people south and north of the border. We are joined by the

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agricultural minister Michelle Gildernew and another guest. --

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Agriculture Minister. Michelle, we have been talking about

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agricultural policy reform and benefits and the subsidies paid

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from Europe. How will you deal with some of these issues? I think it is

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important that we approach this as a team Ireland approach. We need to

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get everybody together and go out with a common purpose. We have the

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same common goal. Together we can be a stronger voice in Europe. I

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have done a lot of work with the Minister for the 26 counties and we

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want to get a team Ireland approach a for Europe. Can it make a

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difference? How much influence do you think you will rarely have?

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have put our own submission in it to Europe on how we think the new

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cap should be. We think it should be strong and flexible. I was able

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to Secure or some meetings with and will ensure people in Europe and I

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want to make sure that we have a strong voice in Europe and have the

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best for our local farmers. We are very much differ from DEFRA in our

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approach. They are not fighting as strong so I would like to stick to

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the team Ireland approach. You are obviously within sight of Short

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Strand here. Your constituency has had some difficult times. What can

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Sinn Fein do to bring an end to some of the sectarian tensions?

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are working with some of those who are taking the lead, grassroots

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activists, who are helping out. We got a contribution from David

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Latimer and we are very much up for engaging with the Unionists

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Protestant loyalists. Her we bring a confidence in our own review of

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the world and where we want to take our people collectively and that

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includes the Unionist community. Are we talking about uniting

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Ireland rather than a united Ireland? That is the ideology that

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we appear to and that is what I have tried to do during my year

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here in Belfast so far. I think that is the spirit with which

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activists,. -- with which activists come. What happened in my

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constituency was a pre-planned attack on the Short Strand

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community and there is no doubt about that. A lot of the people

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that I speak to in working-class loyalist areas feel left behind and

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feel let down. Some of them feel abandoned by people who have

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claimed to be political leaders. They should get a grip on that

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situation because whatever perceived grievance or a legitimate

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grievance, it cannot be justified, and that is why we have taking a

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series of motions. It is not about having an event as a dividend as --

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as significant as having dinner Latimer speech -- having David at

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Latimer speak, but I have walked along with Sammy Douglas and you

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have had people from Short Strand joining in and Sammy Douglas said

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it was not the first time he had been on those streets at that time

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of the morning but it was for different reasons. I am very

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confident that there can be more. Belfast City Council is aspiring to

:38:59.:39:05.

bringing down these problems but there is more debate about whether

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more walls should be put up or not. I am not sure they would agree with

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that. I am very conscious of being desires of the people who live

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there and in the shadow of those walls. I think there needs to be

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ongoing engagement with then. That is why I had been involved and I

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think it is the people who will show us what needs to happen next.

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Michelle O'Neill is here. Ministers have been speaking and the

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Education Minister explain why they have been holding on to the

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portfolio. Why has Sinn Fein been so resolute in remaining at the

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helm of the Department of Education for the third term and a Northern

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Assembly? I have been asked this question on numerous occasions and

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the answer is simple. To education we can make real and positive

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change to society. -- through education. We can get success

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through a number of ways through education. We give credence to the

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right plan. Some people might say that Sinn Fein shows some of the

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Sedley easier ministers -- slightly easy ministers and do not want to

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talk much about getting the private sector up and running again.

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Education does not get more economic -- education, it does not

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get more economic than that. It will be good for people to get into

:40:56.:41:06.
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the workplace. Those are all very positive things and this is an

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economic department. I think employment rates in this department

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are increasing day on day and the the future -- the future of looks

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very positive. I think we need to make positive choices and you can

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see right across The Conference that people are happy with the work

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we are doing. There are many challenges and things to do but we

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are happy with this challenge us. What was the reasoning behind some

:41:43.:41:53.
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of your comments? We are looking at the increasing the role and the

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ministers are promoting things and Belfast. Delegates wanted it to

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come north. The art has to be rotated. I am delighted to welcome

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it here to Belfast. It is a historic city. You have ever 2000

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delegates here in the City and that will be quite a boost -- over 2000

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delegates here in the city and that will be quite a boost. I am

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enjoying Belfast and hopefully they will come back. It is quite

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impressive. It looks impressive. What about your people on the

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ground was that will they have any questions about the cost of staging

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a conference when people are struggling for their jobs? I think

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that is a red herring to be honest. We have a budget for the events and

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it is somewhat modest. Activists are a very pleased with the Budget.

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It is in a sleek venue that is built for things like this. They

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can wear it as a badge of honour for Belfast. This is about people

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coming and putting their views forward about where they agree and

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do not agree. It is a good opportunity and I do not think

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there will be any complaints. is the future for Sinn Fein? What

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his next? You have seen our success this year. It has been fantastic.

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We have a very bright future. We have a very young party and it is

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very progressive. I think the future is very bright. That is all

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