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Welcome to Stormont Today. It is the best of the day's proceedings | :00:28. | :00:34. | |
from up here on the hill. It was a popular move to freeze tuition fees | :00:34. | :00:40. | |
but was that excessive? The rise is going to be considerably more than | :00:40. | :00:46. | |
you think. We have got 8,000 students currently a fraud. If a | :00:46. | :00:50. | |
small proportion stay at home, we cannot provide for them or stop -- | :00:50. | :00:56. | |
currently abroad. Is there something in the broad -- in the | :00:56. | :01:06. | |
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water? Not in that sense! Our guest First tonight, our Political | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
correspondent Martina Purdy has an exclusive look at the long awaited | :01:20. | :01:27. | |
government programme. What have we got? It is a draft of the programme. | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
It was run up by the First Minister and Deputy First Minister's office | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
and since we have had other versions. It gives you an idea of | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
the administration's thinking. The top Parity and challenge his job | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
creation and improving the economy but it looks at choices given the | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
financial constraints. It looks at improving educational outcomes and | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
reforming healthcare and improving the efficiency of public services. | :01:56. | :02:06. | |
That is quite a vague description. Any flesh on the Bayern's? We are | :02:06. | :02:14. | |
looking at some targets such as providing 21,000 jobs. Getting | :02:14. | :02:20. | |
100,000 people off benefits and into employment. Increasing school | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
leavers to 66 % by 2014 and investing in a rural development. | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
Another target is planning to make certain all large-scale planning | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
applications are decided upon in six months. What does the | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
executives say? They have distanced themselves. They have said it is | :02:40. | :02:48. | |
just a draft. A spokesman said that they would simply not comment. | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
Student fees dominated questions to be Minister for Employment and | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
Learning. Not surprising. Before that it was Enterprise Minister | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
Arlene Foster taking questions. She gets a complement from an alliance | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
member. Can I welcome the Chancellor's announcement in | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
relation to air passenger duty and thank her for the work that she | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
did? Are there any other measures available that perhaps could | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
mitigate other additional pastoral landing charges -- passenger | :03:22. | :03:32. | |
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I thank the members for his -- Member for his kind words. I deeply | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
appreciate the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He is to be commended | :03:39. | :03:45. | |
for taking a personal interest in this mattered. I have to say, | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
without his assistants, this would have been a very different story. I | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
commend him for that. There was a lot of hard work behind at the | :03:55. | :04:04. | |
seams. -- behind the scenes. It is true to say that if this passenger | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
duty had not been addressed like that, it might have been very | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
different today. That would have had big ramifications in Northern | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
Ireland. Particularly in the respect of inward investment from | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
North America. I am pleased that is not the case. That might come in | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
useful for some people travelling for the music awards next month. | :04:31. | :04:37. | |
They will be spending lots of money, apparently. It is forecast that the | :04:37. | :04:43. | |
music awards will generate �10 million for the local economy. It | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
is estimated that media coverage will generate �10 million of public | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
relations funding. It will attract 20,000 visitors and 25% from | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
outside Northern Ireland and bringing significant benefit to the | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
area in the longer term will stop at currently less than 10---. | :05:05. | :05:13. | |
Currently less than 10,000 places have been booked as a result of the | :05:13. | :05:23. | |
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2011 survey in Belfast. Can I ask how we are looking at the filming | :05:23. | :05:33. | |
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of MTV? Are anybody -- is anybody considering directing? This is the | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
home of major productions. I would have thought he had enough stars | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
and wanted to share them around. I think the positive story from last | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
week is that we have got international superstars coming to | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
make big years in Northern Ireland. That sends out a very strong | :05:56. | :06:04. | |
message about the change in Northern Ireland. -- video footage. | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
On to tuition fees. What will happen if more people want to study | :06:09. | :06:18. | |
I understand budgeting and finance and resources that have to be | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
applied. But the rise is going to be considerably more than what do | :06:24. | :06:29. | |
you think. We have got 8,000 students currently abroad. If a | :06:29. | :06:36. | |
small proportion come here, we cannot provide for them. How can we | :06:36. | :06:44. | |
sort this out? The short answer to doubt is that I have the capacity | :06:44. | :06:50. | |
to get back to my colleagues based on the actual evidence. Then I can | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
seek additional resources. I have managed to secured a modest amount | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
of resources to allow student places and it is important to make | :07:03. | :07:10. | |
a start. But the wider point is that we have got a sense of realism. | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
The grant was premised on the assumption of tuition fees being | :07:14. | :07:21. | |
introduced at the same level as Great Britain. My department was | :07:21. | :07:28. | |
promised as well. We have to manage student finance and support at the | :07:28. | :07:35. | |
universities, a budget. To freeze these and look at funding was a | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
considerable achievement. And the pressure of places, it is asking an | :07:40. | :07:46. | |
awful lot on a fixed budget at a time of considerable crisis. I have | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
made the case quite robustly. I understand why we have got the | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
situation today. This is a consequence of what was viewed as a | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
very popular situation and we had a lot of pressure to do this. We have | :08:04. | :08:11. | |
to look at the consequences. Carry on Question Time in the chamber has | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
some members got a bit giddy about a very innocent remarks. Must be | :08:15. | :08:25. | |
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We were at it... We were at it last week, Mr Deputy Speaker. If I could | :08:31. | :08:40. | |
ask another question?! I will leave if there. We will hold that thought | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
to another time and we can no doubt talk about that privately. Not in | :08:45. | :08:55. | |
Later than usual, he is our guest of the day, Brian Feeney. It was | :08:55. | :09:03. | |
all laughs but tough decisions ahead. We will see if the proposals | :09:03. | :09:10. | |
will actually ever be decided. We are reading through the programme. | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
It is clear that the constraints from Westminster will be here for | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
another four years. They have brought forward some plans quite | :09:21. | :09:27. | |
quickly. Reducing the number of councils. Big plans for education. | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
Do you feel inspired or optimistic that things might be a bit quicker | :09:32. | :09:38. | |
this time? They will have to be. One of the disappointing things is | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
marking time. A lot of things in the programme has been in the | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
previous programme and achieved nothing in four years. Particularly | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
in education. They did not do anything about 26 councils. They | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
have to do something. The Secretary of State have said if they did not | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
manage it is in the next four years, they will have lost credibility. | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
They will have been in office eight years and achieved nothing. It is | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
imperative to get something done. It is imperative to get the | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
councils reduced. That will save millions. Perception is the problem | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
as well. Members of the public really do feel that we have got | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
inefficiency happening here. They are not seeing the jobs they want | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
to see created and unemployment is rising. The public is quite right | :10:35. | :10:42. | |
about that. The programme is really mother had an apple pie. More jobs | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
and more investment. There are things I frankly do not believe. | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
Getting 100,000 people off benefits and into jobs. Where are these jobs | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
going to be? People are looking at more civil servants in the office | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
of the First Minister and in the Cabinet Office. They are dealing | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
with a population of 60 million. Is that the best use of public money? | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
What about corporation tax? We have had much discussion about that and | :11:16. | :11:21. | |
we will hear more about that later. Is that a key to boosting the | :11:21. | :11:28. | |
economy? I heard that at the Conservative conference. That is | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
much more dangerous than it has ever been. He is not banking on the | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
prospect. I think they have been attacked by the Scottish Office, by | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
people like Alex Salmond. They are talking about reducing it to 15 % | :11:44. | :11:54. | |
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by 2020. But he is not very hopeful. Thank you very much. The Finance | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
Minister Sammy Wilson says if London does not its Stormont the | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
powers to cut, they will have to come up with alternative ways to | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
boost the economy. He was talking to the Secretary of State and | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
setting up a committee to examine the cost implications of reducing | :12:10. | :12:19. | |
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the tax in Northern Ireland before I will be concerned about by the | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
setting up the committee is a way of saying, let us keep it into the | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
long grass, and I suppose it is only when we start talking, you | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
will find out whether that is the case. Once the Government makes up | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
its mind that politically it wants to do something, once the | :12:40. | :12:49. | |
Chancellor realised, he took the right political decision and it's | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
saved the link between here and North America with the airlines. So | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
I am not overly worried at the moment, but I think into a three | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
months' time when we see how it works we might have a better idea. | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
Some people have accused you of putting corporation tax on the long | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
finger. That is not the case. What I said | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
and is still the case, it is that we are seeking to have the powers | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
devolved as quickly as possible, but the actual reduction in the | :13:21. | :13:25. | |
rate will be some time down the line, because there is no point in | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
reducing the rate immediately if you are not getting some benefits | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
from investment decisions. Since investment decisions take about two | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
or three years to make, why would you cut the rate of corporation tax | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
before you get the benefits? You would be paying and getting no | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
benefits. First of all we need a decision to devolve, the | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
legislation to devolve, and then we will announce a date, probably at | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
the end of this period of the Executive, when that will be | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
reduced. That gives investors the certainty, that they know when than | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
that they are going to pay the lower level of corporation tax? | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
I think there has always been an element he did not want to see it | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
devolved - they did not want to hand over more tax powers to | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
devolved administrations, they were also -- always fearful that what | :14:20. | :14:30. | |
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happened in Northern Ireland... So there was always the resistance | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
there, so I am not surprised at that. Even in the discussions we | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
had earlier warned there was always those tensions between people who | :14:38. | :14:44. | |
quite clearly were not committed to devolving corporation tax and does | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
who wanted to look at it. What happens if London cool off and | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
say we are not going to give you the powers? | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
I would say to them politically, but if you do not believe that the | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
devolution of corporation tax is the means to achieve that objective, | :15:01. | :15:07. | |
then tell us what you do believe. Tell us what we can do to rebalance | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
the economy. It is not in London's interest or our interests to keep | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
this heavy reliance on the public sector. We have seen the impact | :15:16. | :15:21. | |
that when there is reductions in Government spending, it is | :15:21. | :15:25. | |
magnified, the effect is magnified in Northern Ireland because of our | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
dependence on the public sector. We need to rebalance the economy, and | :15:30. | :15:36. | |
I will make the argument that if that is not the means then tell us | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
what you are going to give us. You cannot simply say that the public | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
sector is too big in Northern Ireland - and then say we have no | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
ideas how to rebalance. It is a must have provided it is devolved | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
at the right price, and it is devolved in the right way. I think | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
that is the important thing - it is not the only answer, it is not | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
going to solve all of the problems, but I speak to businessmen on a | :16:07. | :16:14. | |
regular basis, many of them are keen to see it devolved. Most of | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
the honest ones will tell you that it will not solve all their | :16:18. | :16:25. | |
problems, or not lead mad jiggly to massive investment tomorrow, but | :16:25. | :16:31. | |
nevertheless it will be important for us to have it in the toolbox. | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
The Finance Minister Sammy Wilson speaking to me earlier. | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
Brian, you are a former member of the SDLP. What do you make of the | :16:38. | :16:45. | |
leadership contest? It has now gone behind the scenes as the various | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
candidates to their canvassing and tried to twist arms and show people | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
how attractive they are. I think there are too many candidates and | :16:54. | :17:00. | |
they may do each other damage. Alastair Macdonald make a mistake | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
standing this time, because the people who rejected him two years | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
ago will not fought find this time either, and he may damage his | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
opponent by standing. But his thoughts will probably go to | :17:14. | :17:22. | |
somebody else in the end. I think they were people who | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
thought they had to throw their hat in the ring to give themselves a | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
leg up in the party. I don't think either has a chance of winning, in | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
the case of, McDevitt, he has only been elected since May. He was co- | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
opted to the Assembly before that, but only elected in his own right, | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
and people will think he is too soon. Throwing his hat in the ring | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
means he will become more senior in the party. | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
Is it a prize worth winning? It is really a crown of thorns. | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
Whoever gets collected this time may well be the last leader of the | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
SDLP. If they do not get the party together for the Assembly elections | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
in 2015, the party will be reduced to such a small number, maybe six | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
Assembly members. Added Will's ceased to be a force to be reckoned | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
with. So it is crunch time, they have got to get it right this time, | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
because they cannot choose another leader of next year. | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
They were highly charged scenes in committees this past week. When | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
should children become criminally responsible? That got tempers | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
frayed at the Justice Committee, but at Agriculture emotions ran | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
high as a senior civil servant was asked about the mistakes that led | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
to the Crossnacreevy land deal disaster. | :18:40. | :18:47. | |
There are two events here. And there is a link between them, it is | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
not a straightforward link. One event is the management scheme | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
which I maintain was very desirable, endorsed by farmers, very necessary | :18:58. | :19:08. | |
to the economy. A good outcome. The second event is that we sought to | :19:08. | :19:17. | |
dispose of an asset to bring in �200 million, and we have failed. | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
bogus exercise? No, I do not accept that. We have failed having done | :19:23. | :19:31. | |
the work. We have not retreated, we have said that when it reopens we | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
will return to the job. We but we have failed in the task we set | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
ourselves of disposing of the assets within the spending review | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
period. That is not a good outcome for us as a department, to fail at | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
any task that we put our minds to. So do you feel you have learnt | :19:52. | :19:59. | |
lessons? I think we have. I think we have learned a lot about how to | :19:59. | :20:08. | |
approach a major capital assets and how to seek the advice... We have | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
learned a lot about the constraints on disposing of an asset, and I | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
suppose that is what we carry forward with us. I do, and again, | :20:20. | :20:27. | |
it is a joy of my life that occasionally I get to talk to the | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
young people coming into the service, and I had that experience | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
in the last week of bringing in a young fast track graduate. What I | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
would say is that the recommendations of this committee | :20:39. | :20:46. | |
are very important and are taken very seriously by all of us. It | :20:46. | :20:56. | |
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will be... It will be of concern if we end up driving out, particularly | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
younger people with careers in front of them. The measurement and | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
the management of risk. I would just put that on the table as | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
something to bear in mind. It would have been possible, frankly, in | :21:12. | :21:19. | |
June 2007, for both the department and ministers to say, we have our | :21:19. | :21:26. | |
processes, and there is nothing we can do. And there you are - | :21:26. | :21:32. | |
Agriculture, industry, you have a problem with you at slummy - deal | :21:32. | :21:38. | |
with it, you are the polluter. -- you slurry. We did not do that, we | :21:38. | :21:48. | |
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took a risk. Retrospective,... But I would be genuinely disappointed | :21:49. | :21:55. | |
if we end up driving out that management of risk as a concept and | :21:55. | :22:02. | |
as an issue for the young people coming into the department. | :22:02. | :22:10. | |
We get some issues here about the UN Convention and the rights of | :22:10. | :22:18. | |
children. Where they say that you advocate we should dot dot dot | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
child welfare should be at the centre. There is a perception that | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
we are forgetting about the rights of society, of community, not just | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
the victim, but about community. How do we ensure that there are | :22:32. | :22:38. | |
checks and balances, and if you take the issue about age, about | :22:38. | :22:47. | |
moving from ten to 12 or about 12 to 14, when it 18? You have here, | :22:47. | :22:56. | |
quoting your report on page 76, the intention was to treat all under 18 | :22:56. | :23:03. | |
year-olds as children. And you come back into this argument. The that | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
the point is you have to make the argument, that there is a better | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
way of dealing people than with the criminal justice system. | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
relation to the rights of the community and what we say about the | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
UN Convention on the rights of the child and particular article 3 | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
which talks about representing the best interests of the child, what | :23:25. | :23:31. | |
we say is that the best interests of the child, according to | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
international instruments, should be part of the principal aim of any | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
youth justice system. In Northern Ireland, it is not. Protecting the | :23:41. | :23:49. | |
public, however, is. It is part of the principal aim. We are | :23:49. | :23:56. | |
suggesting that all of those things should be reflected in the | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
principal aim of the youth justice system. It is not just about | :24:00. | :24:05. | |
protecting the public, it is not just about preventing offending and | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
reoffending, but also about insuring the best interests of the | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
child. In showing that all the right components are part of that | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
principle aim. To see more from Question Time or | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
anything else going on in the chamber or at committee, go to our | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
Democracy Live page way can watch proceedings from Stormont, | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
Westminster, Edinburgh, Cardiff or Brussels. | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
Watching that committee, Brian, what do you think of the standard | :24:31. | :24:37. | |
of our watchdogs here at Stormont? First of all you can never | :24:37. | :24:43. | |
underestimate the pomposity and self-importance of the MLAs, and in | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
any case it is in inverse proportion to their ability and | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
knowledge. They do not specialise - what you tend to find is that | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
individual MPs become known to be experts on particular areas, | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
whether it be law, health, or education, and they become | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
formidable figures on those committees. Home affairs, for | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
example. Chris Mullin, the former chair, for years and years, became | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
an expert on that committee almost in his own right. A lot tend to ask | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
questions about all kinds of things. But they have not had a chance to | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
have years and years on the committee. That's right, but we | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
need to have more and more people specialising, so that instead of | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
asking questions on all kinds of subjects, they hone in on a | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
particular aspect and become somebody to be feared by officials | :25:36. | :25:42. | |
and ministers, because they know that particular MLA is the expert | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
on a certain area. We really do not have any of those. | :25:46. | :25:51. | |
MLAs want tougher sentences for fuel launderers and more cross- | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
border co-operation in catching those involved in fuel smuggling. | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
It is estimated the cost the Exchequer is around �200 million | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
and year in lost revenue. The DUP's Jim Wells was a number of MLAs who | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
call for a crackdown on the criminals involved. | :26:07. | :26:13. | |
It is a serious issue, and I will be interested to see what the | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
Justice Minister says. I do not think we as a society are taking | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
this seriously enough. For custodial sentences. If I still a | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
million pounds from a bank I would go down, but if somebody Launders | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
fuel and makes millions of pounds, all he gets is a suspended sentence, | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
a rap on the knuckles or a fine. If we take this seriously we would | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
like to see far more people going down, if they are caught doing this. | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
Only then will we should the community that the Department of | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
Justice takes this seriously. practical reality is that the | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
action he wants to see his action being taken by the Lord Chief | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
Justice and which he wants the judiciary to step up on. It is also | :26:55. | :27:01. | |
the case that this issue is a reserved matter. If we were to see | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
action on changing the level of sentences, it would be a matter for | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
the Westminster Parliament, and it is a matter on which I suspect the | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
Treasury would have a strong view with regard to the UK as a halt. I | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
doubt very much, whatever the will of the members of this house, | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
whether we would be given permission by the Treasury to | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
legislate within Northern Ireland alone on this particular issue. | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
That is the practical reality we have to deal with. It is fine to | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
say this is what we want, in practical terms it may be that we | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
cannot get what we want. In terms of our amendment, it is | :27:39. | :27:45. | |
our view that given this problem is a direct result of the border, it | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
is seemingly illogical that it cannot be tackled in any other way. | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
We do accept the minister when he says that there has been increased | :27:55. | :27:59. | |
co-operation across the border, but obviously not enough. I think I | :27:59. | :28:06. | |
would reiterate the question. By Mr Bradley asking how many times have | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
these parties met together, and how often and how much work had they | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
done? That is something that needs to be improved. | :28:13. | :28:20. | |
Brian, a final word. What do you make of the presidential election? | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
It is a new dimension to Irish politics to have Sinn Fein, a Sinn | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
Fein candidate. People have been surprised they hit the ground | :28:30. | :28:36. | |
running, and he is looking pretty close to some of the other runners. | :28:36. | :28:41. | |
He is ahead of the Fine Gael candidate, and they are the largest | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
party in Government. So it is difficult to know at this stage, | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
but all the candidates are quite close together and it is going to | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
depend on transfers. Sinn Fein is not transfer friendly, no matter | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
how good Martin McGuinness is. If he gets a good personal first vote, | :29:00. | :29:04. |