05/03/2013 Stormont Today

Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Hello and welcome to Stormont Today.

Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Coming up on the programme:

Coming up on the programme: Unionists and nationalists clash

Unionists and nationalists clash Unionists and nationalists clash

over the First Minister's comments on policing.

on policing. on policing.

on policing. We'll be hearing both sides of the

argument. argument.

argument. And, find out why the former

And, find out why the former broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched

broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched

the script at question time. thank the...

thank the... thank the...

The Detail's Steven McCaffery will The Detail's Steven McCaffery will

The Detail's Steven McCaffery will The Detail's Steven McCaffery will

be here with his analysis of the be here with his analysis of the

be here with his analysis of the day's political stories here on the

day's political stories here on the A relatively quiet day inside the

A relatively quiet day inside the A relatively quiet day inside the

Stormont chamber didn't stop our Stormont chamber didn't stop our

Stormont chamber didn't stop our MLAs from making plenty of noise

outside it. outside it.

outside it. The issue most exercising them was

The issue most exercising them was The issue most exercising them was

a claim by the First Minister, a claim by the First Minister,

a claim by the First Minister, Peter Robinson, that sections of

Peter Robinson, that sections of Peter Robinson, that sections of

unionism were losing confidence in unionism were losing confidence in

the police's impartiality. the police's impartiality.

the police's impartiality. Mr Robinson's suggestion has been

Mr Robinson's suggestion has been angrily rejected by nationalists.

angrily rejected by nationalists. angrily rejected by nationalists.

We'll be getting political reaction We'll be getting political reaction

We'll be getting political reaction We'll be getting political reaction

in a moment, but first The Detail's in a moment, but first The Detail's

Steven McCaffery is here. Steven McCaffery is here.

Steven McCaffery is here. Steven, we'll be hearing from the

Steven, we'll be hearing from the Steven, we'll be hearing from the

politicians in a moment, but first politicians in a moment, but first

politicians in a moment, but first politicians in a moment, but first

just remind us how this row arose just remind us how this row arose

just remind us how this row arose in the first place. The whole

in the first place. The whole in the first place. The whole

crisis around parades has been crisis around parades has been

crisis around parades has been running for some months now. Police

running for some months now. Police running for some months now. Police

have been the subject of criticism have been the subject of criticism

from Republicans and nationalists from Republicans and nationalists

from Republicans and nationalists and on other occasions from

and on other occasions from and on other occasions from

unionists. This incident came to unionists. This incident came to

head because unionists raised head because unionists raised

head because unionists raised concerns over the most recent set

concerns over the most recent set concerns over the most recent set

of police tactics and appearance in of police tactics and appearance in

of police tactics and appearance in court of two people prominent in

court of two people prominent in court of two people prominent in

the protest and a court appearance the protest and a court appearance

the protest and a court appearance by a prominent Republican the fact

by a prominent Republican the fact by a prominent Republican the fact

that one person was allowed to that one person was allowed to

that one person was allowed to benefit from bail and two didn't

benefit from bail and two didn't benefit from bail and two didn't

receive bail. Obviously, fed into receive bail. Obviously, fed into

receive bail. Obviously, fed into some fresh criticism from most

some fresh criticism from most some fresh criticism from most

prominently from the First Minister, prominently from the First Minister,

prominently from the First Minister, Peter Robinson. I think, that on

Peter Robinson. I think, that on Peter Robinson. I think, that on

the one hand, people accept that the one hand, people accept that

the one hand, people accept that the one hand, people accept that

the police have to be open to the police have to be open to

the police have to be open to criticism. The courts have to be

criticism. The courts have to be criticism. The courts have to be

open to criticism that politicians open to criticism that politicians

open to criticism that politicians should be free to make that

should be free to make that should be free to make that

criticism. There is a feeling that criticism. There is a feeling that

criticism. There is a feeling that criticism. There is a feeling that

perhaps the DUP have gone for the perhaps the DUP have gone for the

perhaps the DUP have gone for the nuclear option and some surprise

nuclear option and some surprise nuclear option and some surprise

it's Peter Robinson making the it's Peter Robinson making the

it's Peter Robinson making the comments and framing them around

comments and framing them around comments and framing them around

the wider issue in confidence on policing.

policing. policing.

Well let's hear from the Well let's hear from the

politicians themselves now. politicians themselves now.

Our political editor, Mark Our political editor, Mark

Our political editor, Mark Devenport, first caught up with the

Devenport, first caught up with the Devenport, first caught up with the

Chair of the Justice Committee, the Chair of the Justice Committee, the

Chair of the Justice Committee, the Chair of the Justice Committee, the

DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if

DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if his party now accepts Matt

his party now accepts Matt his party now accepts Matt

Baggott's assurance that there is Baggott's assurance that there is

Baggott's assurance that there is Baggott's assurance that there is

no bias. I welcome him dealing with no bias. I welcome him dealing with

no bias. I welcome him dealing with no bias. I welcome him dealing with

this publicly. What I would like to this publicly. What I would like to

this publicly. What I would like to see is the police explaining the

see is the police explaining the see is the police explaining the

rational for how they police rational for how they police

loyalist protest compared to loyalist protest compared to

republican protests. They use republican protests. They use

different tactics. The republican different tactics. The republican

different tactics. The republican protest over the weekend had no

protest over the weekend had no protest over the weekend had no

police presence there. They watched police presence there. They watched

police presence there. They watched police presence there. They watched

it from a helicopter. One that took it from a helicopter. One that took

it from a helicopter. One that took place in Carrick had more police

place in Carrick had more police officers there than protesters.

officers there than protesters. officers there than protesters.

Matt Baggott needs to explain this Matt Baggott needs to explain this

Matt Baggott needs to explain this so people don't continue this

so people don't continue this alienation where the loyalist

alienation where the loyalist alienation where the loyalist

community are feeling they are community are feeling they are

community are feeling they are being victimised by the police. It

being victimised by the police. It being victimised by the police. It

being victimised by the police. It is important we don't allow that to

is important we don't allow that to is important we don't allow that to

resonate within that community. resonate within that community.

resonate within that community. moved on to the policing approach.

moved on to the policing approach. moved on to the policing approach.

The initial complaint was about The initial complaint was about

different bail conditions in different bail conditions in

different bail conditions in different cases. Aren't you fudging

different cases. Aren't you fudging different cases. Aren't you fudging

different cases. Aren't you fudging it in the way the judiciary is

it in the way the judiciary is it in the way the judiciary is

coming into account now? The police coming into account now? The police

coming into account now? The police will make recommendation to the

will make recommendation to the will make recommendation to the

Public Prosecution Service as to Public Prosecution Service as to

Public Prosecution Service as to whether they support bail or would

whether they support bail or would whether they support bail or would

whether they support bail or would oppose bail. The police do have an

oppose bail. The police do have an oppose bail. The police do have an

influence in respect of that. It's influence in respect of that. It's

influence in respect of that. It's important that they explain the

important that they explain the important that they explain the

important that they explain the position that is they take. I think

position that is they take. I think position that is they take. I think

the judiciary and the courts also the judiciary and the courts also

the judiciary and the courts also have a role to explain their

have a role to explain their have a role to explain their

have a role to explain their decisions in all of this and show

decisions in all of this and show decisions in all of this and show

decisions in all of this and show the public how they operate and why

the public how they operate and why the public how they operate and why

the public how they operate and why they take the decision that is they

they take the decision that is they they take the decision that is they

do so that people can fully understand it.

understand it. understand it.

Mark Devenport has also been Mark Devenport has also been

Mark Devenport has also been speaking to the Ulster Unionist MLA,

Tom Elliott. Tom Elliott.

Tom Elliott. Mark asked him if politicians

Mark asked him if politicians Mark asked him if politicians

should be second guessing the should be second guessing the

should be second guessing the judiciary and the police. We are

judiciary and the police. We are judiciary and the police. We are

not second guessing the judiciary not second guessing the judiciary

not second guessing the judiciary not second guessing the judiciary

at this stage. We heard what they at this stage. We heard what they

at this stage. We heard what they have said. They have refused bail

have said. They have refused bail have said. They have refused bail

have said. They have refused bail to a number of people and given

to a number of people and given to a number of people and given

to a number of people and given bail to two others. It almost seems

bail to two others. It almost seems bail to two others. It almost seems

to be unexplainable. Quie clearly to be unexplainable. Quie clearly

to be unexplainable. Quie clearly some people are being charged with

some people are being charged with some people are being charged with

very serious offences, some of them very serious offences, some of them

very serious offences, some of them in connection with a murder, they

in connection with a murder, they in connection with a murder, they

get bail, and others, who are get bail, and others, who are

get bail, and others, who are involved in street protests, what

involved in street protests, what involved in street protests, what

involved in street protests, what seems to be a pretty minor offence,

seems to be a pretty minor offence, seems to be a pretty minor offence,

don't get bail. There is an don't get bail. There is an

explanation required, certainly to explanation required, certainly to

explanation required, certainly to me, to the broad unionist community

me, to the broad unionist community me, to the broad unionist community

around why the difference is in around why the difference is in

around why the difference is in around why the difference is in

that. That is the reason I have that. That is the reason I have

that. That is the reason I have that. That is the reason I have

asked for a meeting for the Lord asked for a meeting for the Lord

asked for a meeting for the Lord Chief Justice and the Justice

Chief Justice and the Justice Chief Justice and the Justice

Minister to get an explanation Minister to get an explanation

Minister to get an explanation around that. Aren't you on a

around that. Aren't you on a around that. Aren't you on a

slippery slope? You could end up slippery slope? You could end up

slippery slope? You could end up with a situation where the

with a situation where the judiciary far from being

judiciary far from being judiciary far from being

independent will have to bear in independent will have to bear in

independent will have to bear in mind, will there be a political

mind, will there be a political mind, will there be a political

mind, will there be a political campaign pushing us one way or the

campaign pushing us one way or the campaign pushing us one way or the

other pushing on these decisions? other pushing on these decisions?

other pushing on these decisions? other pushing on these decisions?

There has been a campaign for some There has been a campaign for some

There has been a campaign for some time. Sinn Fein members have put

time. Sinn Fein members have put time. Sinn Fein members have put

pressure on where they are saying pressure on where they are saying

pressure on where they are saying some of their people and their

some of their people and their some of their people and their

members aren't guilty of certain members aren't guilty of certain

members aren't guilty of certain offences. They need to be released

offences. They need to be released offences. They need to be released

offences. They need to be released asap. You are trying to do the

asap. You are trying to do the asap. You are trying to do the

same? There is pressure there same? There is pressure there

same? There is pressure there within the judiciary. I'm trying to

within the judiciary. I'm trying to within the judiciary. I'm trying to

within the judiciary. I'm trying to get a balance on this. I'm trying

get a balance on this. I'm trying get a balance on this. I'm trying

to establish whether the judiciary to establish whether the judiciary

to establish whether the judiciary is coming from, where the judges

is coming from, where the judges is coming from, where the judges

and police are coming from. It and police are coming from. It

and police are coming from. It and police are coming from. It

hasn't been explained to me. I know hasn't been explained to me. I know

that republicans are putting that republicans are putting

that republicans are putting that republicans are putting

pressure on them. It's up to me to pressure on them. It's up to me to

pressure on them. It's up to me to ask those questions as well.

ask those questions as well. ask those questions as well.

ask those questions as well. With me now is the SDLP MLA and

With me now is the SDLP MLA and Policing Board member, Conall

McDevitt. McDevitt.

McDevitt. What is wrong with unionist

What is wrong with unionist What is wrong with unionist

politicians, among them the First politicians, among them the First

Minister, talking publicly about Minister, talking publicly about

Minister, talking publicly about Minister, talking publicly about

what they regard as a perception of what they regard as a perception of

what they regard as a perception of uneven policing in the community

uneven policing in the community uneven policing in the community

they represent? That is not what they represent? That is not what

they represent? That is not what Peter Robinson said. He said he

Peter Robinson said. He said he Peter Robinson said. He said he

believed policing is biased. Peter believed policing is biased. Peter

believed policing is biased. Peter Robinson is First Minister of

Robinson is First Minister of Robinson is First Minister of

Northern Ireland because of the Northern Ireland because of the

Northern Ireland because of the Good Friday Agreement. He accepts

Good Friday Agreement. He accepts Good Friday Agreement. He accepts

and works the institutions of the and works the institutions of the

Good Friday Agreement. Amongst Good Friday Agreement. Amongst

Good Friday Agreement. Amongst those institutions are an operation

those institutions are an operation those institutions are an operation

Ali independent police service. A Ali independent police service. A

Ali independent police service. A Policing Board that is there to

Policing Board that is there to Policing Board that is there to

hold the police to account. A hold the police to account. A

hold the police to account. A fundamental tenant of that new

fundamental tenant of that new fundamental tenant of that new

beginning to police something that beginning to police something that

beginning to police something that beginning to police something that

we will never again allow -- allow we will never again allow -- allow

for political intervention or for political intervention or

for political intervention or political addressing of policing. I

political addressing of policing. I political addressing of policing. I

know, the vast majority of people know, the vast majority of people

know, the vast majority of people know, the vast majority of people

who take a reasonable view as to who take a reasonable view as to

who take a reasonable view as to what the First Minister was at

what the First Minister was at what the First Minister was at

yesterday, know that this was an yesterday, know that this was an

yesterday, know that this was an attempt to try and give the

attempt to try and give the attempt to try and give the

impression that he was influencing impression that he was influencing

police decisions in this police decisions in this

police decisions in this jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of

jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of

jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of a man in his office. It's at odds

a man in his office. It's at odds a man in his office. It's at odds

with a new beginning to policing. with a new beginning to policing.

with a new beginning to policing. with a new beginning to policing.

To be clear about what he said hesm To be clear about what he said hesm

To be clear about what he said hesm talked about swathes of unionism of

talked about swathes of unionism of having the perception that

having the perception that loyalists have been treated

loyalists have been treated differently from republicans?

differently from republicans? differently from republicans?

differently from republicans? talked about the fact that it was

talked about the fact that it was talked about the fact that it was

his belief that parades were being his belief that parades were being

his belief that parades were being treated differently. There is no

treated differently. There is no treated differently. There is no

treated differently. There is no question in my mind whilst he is

question in my mind whilst he is question in my mind whilst he is

entitled to have private meetings entitled to have private meetings

entitled to have private meetings with the Chief Constable. My lead

with the Chief Constable. My lead with the Chief Constable. My lead

with the Chief Constable. My lead and I met the Chief last week, he

and I met the Chief last week, he and I met the Chief last week, he

needs to think, as First Minister, needs to think, as First Minister,

needs to think, as First Minister, needs to think, as First Minister,

whether it is right for someone who whether it is right for someone who

whether it is right for someone who whether it is right for someone who

is meant to be to be the First is meant to be to be the First

is meant to be to be the First Minister of everyone in Northern

Minister of everyone in Northern Minister of everyone in Northern

Minister of everyone in Northern Ireland, to rush out of a meeting

Ireland, to rush out of a meeting Ireland, to rush out of a meeting

Ireland, to rush out of a meeting with the Chief Constable, rush to a

with the Chief Constable, rush to a with the Chief Constable, rush to a

microphone and Stoke tensions? microphone and Stoke tensions?

microphone and Stoke tensions? microphone and Stoke tensions?

would say that is not what he would say that is not what he

would say that is not what he intended to do. He represents

intended to do. He represents intended to do. He represents

people. He happens to be First people. He happens to be First

people. He happens to be First Minister. That can't actually ab

Minister. That can't actually ab Minister. That can't actually ab

position which stops him commenting position which stops him commenting

position which stops him commenting publicly on a critical issue like

publicly on a critical issue like publicly on a critical issue like

this? We have an infrastructure this? We have an infrastructure

around policing that prevents around policing that prevents

around policing that prevents politicians from ever again trying

politicians from ever again trying politicians from ever again trying

to influence policing. Like used to to influence policing. Like used to

to influence policing. Like used to happen around here. I know Peter

happen around here. I know Peter happen around here. I know Peter

Robinson is against the Good Friday Robinson is against the Good Friday

Robinson is against the Good Friday Agreement. I know he doesn't

Agreement. I know he doesn't Agreement. I know he doesn't

Agreement. I know he doesn't support the PSNI. I know he doesn't

support the PSNI. I know he doesn't support the PSNI. I know he doesn't

support the Policing Board. That he support the Policing Board. That he

support the Policing Board. That he support the Policing Board. That he

wants the old RUC back. I know this wants the old RUC back. I know this

wants the old RUC back. I know this wants the old RUC back. I know this

because I here it every week... because I here it every week...

because I here it every week... not sure he would say precriesly

not sure he would say precriesly not sure he would say precriesly

that. He does support the PSNI? that. He does support the PSNI?

that. He does support the PSNI? It's not coming back. His comments

It's not coming back. His comments It's not coming back. His comments

It's not coming back. His comments today leave an open question as to

today leave an open question as to whether he unconditionly supports

whether he unconditionly supports whether he unconditionly supports

whether he unconditionly supports the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when

the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when

the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when they are doing he wants them to do.

they are doing he wants them to do. they are doing he wants them to do.

When he does something he doesn't When he does something he doesn't

When he does something he doesn't When he does something he doesn't

agree with he wants to be free... agree with he wants to be free...

agree with he wants to be free... You can be critical of an

You can be critical of an You can be critical of an

organisation and still support. It organisation and still support. It

organisation and still support. It you have been critical... I would

you have been critical... I would you have been critical... I would

like to see the First Minister like to see the First Minister

like to see the First Minister issue a public statement supporting

issue a public statement supporting issue a public statement supporting

issue a public statement supporting the PSNI and the policing Board and

the PSNI and the policing Board and asserting the authority and

asserting the authority and operational independence of the

operational independence of the Chief Constable and the

Chief Constable and the independence and the accountability

independence and the accountability independence and the accountability

supremacy of the Policing Board. supremacy of the Policing Board.

supremacy of the Policing Board. supremacy of the Policing Board.

What we had from DUP spokes people What we had from DUP spokes people

What we had from DUP spokes people What we had from DUP spokes people

all day today has been anything but all day today has been anything but

all day today has been anything but all day today has been anything but

that. What do you make of what has that. What do you make of what has

that. What do you make of what has that. What do you make of what has

been said there? It sounds like he been said there? It sounds like he

been said there? It sounds like he been said there? It sounds like he

is upping the anti-, there is no is upping the anti-, there is no

question that Peter Robinson question that Peter Robinson

question that Peter Robinson supports the PSNI, is there?

supports the PSNI, is there? supports the PSNI, is there?

terms of public perceptions, if we terms of public perceptions, if we

terms of public perceptions, if we look at the criticisms made, for

look at the criticisms made, for look at the criticisms made, for

example around the issue who have example around the issue who have

example around the issue who have example around the issue who have

got bail and who didn't get bail, got bail and who didn't get bail,

got bail and who didn't get bail, got bail and who didn't get bail,

the details of how and why those the details of how and why those

the details of how and why those decisions were made were listed in

decisions were made were listed in decisions were made were listed in

decisions were made were listed in court. It's not a case of decisions

court. It's not a case of decisions court. It's not a case of decisions

being handed down on high without being handed down on high without

being handed down on high without explanation. The difficulty is, as

explanation. The difficulty is, as explanation. The difficulty is, as

explanation. The difficulty is, as far as the public is concerned this

far as the public is concerned this far as the public is concerned this

debacle hasn't helped explain what debacle hasn't helped explain what

debacle hasn't helped explain what has happened or what didn't happen.

has happened or what didn't happen. has happened or what didn't happen.

has happened or what didn't happen. What the public see is a big row

What the public see is a big row What the public see is a big row

between unionism and the police. between unionism and the police.

between unionism and the police. Two points emerge from that, is

Two points emerge from that, is Two points emerge from that, is

Two points emerge from that, is there a danger we are in a position

there a danger we are in a position there a danger we are in a position

of sleepwalking into what could be of sleepwalking into what could be

of sleepwalking into what could be a dangerous and tense marching

a dangerous and tense marching a dangerous and tense marching

a dangerous and tense marching season? If we are, is it helpful we

season? If we are, is it helpful we season? If we are, is it helpful we

see, rightly or wrongly, the see, rightly or wrongly, the

see, rightly or wrongly, the impression given there is a battle

impression given there is a battle impression given there is a battle

between police and unionism? One between police and unionism? One

between police and unionism? One further point that perhaps the

further point that perhaps the further point that perhaps the

police might make, while the flags police might make, while the flags

police might make, while the flags issue has dominated things and

issue has dominated things and issue has dominated things and

brought us to this position, it brought us to this position, it

brought us to this position, it wasn't a problem that has been

wasn't a problem that has been wasn't a problem that has been

created by police, it was obviously created by police, it was obviously

created by police, it was obviously created by police, it was obviously

a problem, that it can be argued, a problem, that it can be argued,

a problem, that it can be argued, was created by politicians. What

was created by politicians. What was created by politicians. What

was created by politicians. What this poipbtsz up is the creative am

this poipbtsz up is the creative am this poipbtsz up is the creative am

ba queue 'tis of the institutions ba queue 'tis of the institutions

ba queue 'tis of the institutions ba queue 'tis of the institutions

set up 15 years ago under the Good set up 15 years ago under the Good

set up 15 years ago under the Good Friday Agreement, we have on the

Friday Agreement, we have on the Friday Agreement, we have on the

Friday Agreement, we have on the one hand a police force meant to be

one hand a police force meant to be one hand a police force meant to be

operation Ali independent and one operation Ali independent and one

operation Ali independent and one of the most accountable police

of the most accountable police of the most accountable police

of the most accountable police forces in the world. It's hard to

forces in the world. It's hard to forces in the world. It's hard to

square that circle? It is a square that circle? It is a

square that circle? It is a challenge. I point out the

challenge. I point out the challenge. I point out the

challenge. I point out the confusion in the mind of some DUP

confusion in the mind of some DUP confusion in the mind of some DUP

confusion in the mind of some DUP people as to whether they are in

people as to whether they are in people as to whether they are in

the institutions because of the the institutions because of the

the institutions because of the Good Friday Agreement and want to

Good Friday Agreement and want to Good Friday Agreement and want to

Good Friday Agreement and want to be in them and outside them when it

be in them and outside them when it be in them and outside them when it

be in them and outside them when it suits them. They need to resolve to

suits them. They need to resolve to suits them. They need to resolve to

support the institutions of this support the institutions of this

support the institutions of this state. We will leave it there.

state. We will leave it there. state. We will leave it there.

Thank you very much, indeed. Thank you very much, indeed.

Thank you very much, indeed. Jonathan Bell came under pressure

Jonathan Bell came under pressure Jonathan Bell came under pressure

to explain why the long promised to explain why the long promised

to explain why the long promised sexual orientation strategy yet to

sexual orientation strategy yet to sexual orientation strategy yet to

sexual orientation strategy yet to be published. We will update it on

be published. We will update it on be published. We will update it on

the development of the consultation the development of the consultation

the development of the consultation document. Thank you. Could I ask

document. Thank you. Could I ask document. Thank you. Could I ask

document. Thank you. Could I ask him, if he could explain what is

him, if he could explain what is holding the strategy back

holding the strategy back holding the strategy back

considering that the minister, the considering that the minister, the

considering that the minister, the First Minister, has told the

First Minister, has told the First Minister, has told the

Chamber three times in the past Chamber three times in the past

Chamber three times in the past year that the final strategy would

year that the final strategy would year that the final strategy would

be complete and published by the be complete and published by the

be complete and published by the be complete and published by the

end of 2012? Could he comment on end of 2012? Could he comment on

end of 2012? Could he comment on reports in relation to his party,

reports in relation to his party, reports in relation to his party,

the DUP, have been dragging their the DUP, have been dragging their

the DUP, have been dragging their neat relation to the publication of

neat relation to the publication of a credible sexual orientation

a credible sexual orientation a credible sexual orientation

a credible sexual orientation strategy for a number of years and

strategy for a number of years and strategy for a number of years and

strategy for a number of years and his party is hostile? I can address

his party is hostile? I can address his party is hostile? I can address

that in reverse order, not hostile that in reverse order, not hostile

that in reverse order, not hostile that in reverse order, not hostile

to any human being. The member laid to any human being. The member laid

to any human being. The member laid to any human being. The member laid

out his question very well. I'm not out his question very well. I'm not

out his question very well. I'm not hostile to any human being. Any

hostile to any human being. Any hostile to any human being. Any

human being regardless of their human being regardless of their

human being regardless of their colour of their skin, colour of

colour of their skin, colour of their skin political persuasion

their skin political persuasion their skin political persuasion

their skin political persuasion should be dealt with the dignity of

should be dealt with the dignity of should be dealt with the dignity of

human rights and human worth. We human rights and human worth. We

human rights and human worth. We are committed to publishing a

are committed to publishing a sexual orientation strategy. Junior

sexual orientation strategy. Junior sexual orientation strategy. Junior

ministers and OFM and DFM officials ministers and OFM and DFM officials

ministers and OFM and DFM officials engage with the sector we continue

engage with the sector we continue engage with the sector we continue

engage with the sector we continue I would like to tell members they

I would like to tell members they I would like to tell members they

should not be seen reading out should not be seen reading out

supplementary questions. Mr Speaker, supplementary questions. Mr Speaker,

supplementary questions. Mr Speaker, supplementary questions. Mr Speaker,

I thank... I thank the Minister for I thank... I thank the Minister for

I thank... I thank the Minister for his answers, and twice he said

his answers, and twice he said his answers, and twice he said

officials are engaging with the officials are engaging with the

officials are engaging with the sector. Would he agree with the

sector. Would he agree with the sector. Would he agree with the

brain does acted that believe that brain does acted that believe that

brain does acted that believe that setting up a consultative group are

setting up a consultative group are setting up a consultative group are

setting up a consultative group are is the way forward. -- would you

is the way forward. -- would you is the way forward. -- would you

agree with the rainbows actor? agree with the rainbows actor?

agree with the rainbows actor? have met with different members of

have met with different members of this sector including those

this sector including those this sector including those

represented, and we continue to represented, and we continue to

represented, and we continue to seek the agreement that we could

seek the agreement that we could seek the agreement that we could

have a coherent strategy to go have a coherent strategy to go

have a coherent strategy to go forward. Mr Speaker, can the

forward. Mr Speaker, can the forward. Mr Speaker, can the

Minister confirm that Arnie sexual Minister confirm that Arnie sexual

orientation strategy will not orientation strategy will not

orientation strategy will not create additional rights, but will

create additional rights, but will create additional rights, but will

merely be a reiteration of the merely be a reiteration of the

merely be a reiteration of the rights that are already there.

rights that are already there. rights that are already there.

Consequently, we believe in the Consequently, we believe in the

Consequently, we believe in the innate dignity and human worth of

innate dignity and human worth of innate dignity and human worth of

every human being, a slow repeating every human being, a slow repeating

every human being, a slow repeating every human being, a slow repeating

what I said before, we but not be what I said before, we but not be

what I said before, we but not be what I said before, we but not be

in a position to introduce any new in a position to introduce any new

additional rights. We announced additional rights. We announced

additional rights. We announced since signature programmes to the

since signature programmes to the since signature programmes to the

value of �26 million under the value of �26 million under the

delivering social change framework delivering social change framework

delivering social change framework in 2012. These programmes are

in 2012. These programmes are designed to tackle multi-

designed to tackle multi- designed to tackle multi-

generational poverty and to improve generational poverty and to improve

children's health and well-being children's health and well-being

and education and life and education and life

opportunities. Work on the opportunities. Work on the

opportunities. Work on the implementation of the programme is

implementation of the programme is implementation of the programme is

ongoing. In January, officials met ongoing. In January, officials met

ongoing. In January, officials met with the senior officials asked by

with the senior officials asked by with the senior officials asked by

the relevant Minister to deliver the relevant Minister to deliver

progress and expedite delivery. progress and expedite delivery.

Further discussions with lead Further discussions with lead

Further discussions with lead officials took place last month and

officials took place last month and officials took place last month and

close discussions are continuing to close discussions are continuing to

close discussions are continuing to ensure delivery at the earliest

ensure delivery at the earliest ensure delivery at the earliest

opportunity. I am confident that opportunity. I am confident that

opportunity. I am confident that work on all of these signature

work on all of these signature programmes is progressing as

programmes is progressing as programmes is progressing as

quickly and so efficiently as quickly and so efficiently as

quickly and so efficiently as possible. There has been criticism

possible. There has been criticism possible. There has been criticism

levelled at the Department of levelled at the Department of

levelled at the Department of Education at the time taken to

Education at the time taken to Education at the time taken to

deliver the numeracy and literacy deliver the numeracy and literacy

deliver the numeracy and literacy deliver the numeracy and literacy

scheme, but we have spoken to the scheme, but we have spoken to the

scheme, but we have spoken to the Minister of Education to say that

Minister of Education to say that Minister of Education to say that

we want teachers uprooted prior to we want teachers uprooted prior to

we want teachers uprooted prior to we want teachers uprooted prior to

the summer to be ready in advance the summer to be ready in advance

the summer to be ready in advance the summer to be ready in advance

of the academic year. In light of of the academic year. In light of

of the academic year. In light of the signature project and the

the signature project and the the signature project and the

employment of 230 teachers has employment of 230 teachers has

employment of 230 teachers has employment of 230 teachers has

referred to buy a Minister, it is referred to buy a Minister, it is

referred to buy a Minister, it is uncertain from the Department of

uncertain from the Department of uncertain from the Department of

Education as to when these teachers Education as to when these teachers

Education as to when these teachers Education as to when these teachers

will be employed and are unclear as will be employed and are unclear as

will be employed and are unclear as will be employed and are unclear as

to how they will be employed. Can to how they will be employed. Can

to how they will be employed. Can he bring clarity on these subjects

he bring clarity on these subjects he bring clarity on these subjects

he bring clarity on these subjects on how and when these teachers will

on how and when these teachers will on how and when these teachers will

on how and when these teachers will on how and when these teachers will

be at Boyd? I hope that the when is be at Boyd? I hope that the when is

be at Boyd? I hope that the when is be at Boyd? I hope that the when is

that it would be well in advance of that it would be well in advance of

that it would be well in advance of September. It would be much better

September. It would be much better September. It would be much better

September. It would be much better from our point of view to have that

from our point of view to have that from our point of view to have that

done earlier. We recognise that done earlier. We recognise that

done earlier. We recognise that what we do with delivering social

what we do with delivering social what we do with delivering social

change is adding eight feature to change is adding eight feature to

change is adding eight feature to which the department is already

which the department is already which the department is already

doing. There is a development doing. There is a development

doing. There is a development doing. There is a development

programme set out. We have a clear programme set out. We have a clear

programme set out. We have a clear announcement, we have made it clear

announcement, we have made it clear announcement, we have made it clear

announcement, we have made it clear the way we want to see this scheme

the way we want to see this scheme the way we want to see this scheme

going forward. It is for one-to-one going forward. It is for one-to-one

going forward. It is for one-to-one going forward. It is for one-to-one

tutoring and it is on the basis of tutoring and it is on the basis of

tutoring and it is on the basis of the beers that are presently

the beers that are presently the beers that are presently

unemployed teachers taking up those unemployed teachers taking up those

unemployed teachers taking up those positions. -- the basis of teachers

positions. -- the basis of teachers positions. -- the basis of teachers

that are presently unemployed. This that are presently unemployed. This

that are presently unemployed. This that are presently unemployed. This

is the scheme as we have outlined is the scheme as we have outlined

is the scheme as we have outlined it ended was endorsed unanimously

it ended was endorsed unanimously it ended was endorsed unanimously

it ended was endorsed unanimously by the Executive. It will be taken

by the Executive. It will be taken by the Executive. It will be taken

forward by the Department of forward by the Department of

forward by the Department of Education. We have to fit into

Education. We have to fit into Education. We have to fit into

which every employment law requires which every employment law requires

which every employment law requires which every employment law requires

which every employment law requires us to do, so there are issues to up

us to do, so there are issues to up us to do, so there are issues to up

us to do, so there are issues to up our act and these issues will be

our act and these issues will be our act and these issues will be

raised by the department. None of raised by the department. None of

raised by the department. None of them also difficult to overcome

them also difficult to overcome them also difficult to overcome

that would stop was meeting the that would stop was meeting the

that would stop was meeting the that would stop was meeting the

timetable that I have sat out. timetable that I have sat out.

First Minister, Peter Robinson. First Minister, Peter Robinson.

First Minister, Peter Robinson. Does the Department of Agriculture

Does the Department of Agriculture Does the Department of Agriculture

blunder from one humiliation to blunder from one humiliation to

blunder from one humiliation to another? Well that was the

another? Well that was the another? Well that was the

accusation put to Michelle O'Neill accusation put to Michelle O'Neill

accusation put to Michelle O'Neill during today's question time. But

during today's question time. But during today's question time. But

first the Minister dealt with the first the Minister dealt with the

first the Minister dealt with the issue of resourcing the Rivers'

issue of resourcing the Rivers' Agency following last summer's

Agency following last summer's Agency following last summer's

flooding in Belfast. Would she flooding in Belfast. Would she

flooding in Belfast. Would she agreed that the rivers agency is

agreed that the rivers agency is agreed that the rivers agency is

under resourced, especially in a under resourced, especially in a

under resourced, especially in a dressing risk areas highlighted in

dressing risk areas highlighted in dressing risk areas highlighted in

the floods last year? Nobody could the floods last year? Nobody could

the floods last year? Nobody could have predicted the heavy rainfall

have predicted the heavy rainfall have predicted the heavy rainfall

have predicted the heavy rainfall of last year in 20th June 12,

of last year in 20th June 12, particularly this heavy rain.

particularly this heavy rain. particularly this heavy rain.

Nobody could have been able to Nobody could have been able to

Nobody could have been able to Nobody could have been able to

predict this. We are looking at predict this. We are looking at

predict this. We are looking at predict this. We are looking at

this as an executive, but I have this as an executive, but I have

this as an executive, but I have recruited extra staff in terms of

recruited extra staff in terms of recruited extra staff in terms of

recruited extra staff in terms of the work on going in the greater

the work on going in the greater the work on going in the greater

the work on going in the greater Belfast terrier. We have a four new

Belfast terrier. We have a four new Belfast terrier. We have a four new

Belfast terrier. We have a four new members of staff coming on board to

members of staff coming on board to members of staff coming on board to

be involved in regular inspection be involved in regular inspection

be involved in regular inspection be involved in regular inspection

of the drains to make sure that of the drains to make sure that

of the drains to make sure that of the drains to make sure that

areas are not blocked. This will be areas are not blocked. This will be

areas are not blocked. This will be a halt to the rivers agency.

a halt to the rivers agency. a halt to the rivers agency.

Funding for flood alleviation will Funding for flood alleviation will

Funding for flood alleviation will be prioritised based on the level

be prioritised based on the level be prioritised based on the level

be prioritised based on the level of risk for people and property and

of risk for people and property and of risk for people and property and

the associated costs to provide the associated costs to provide

the associated costs to provide the associated costs to provide

this. I hope that the member will this. I hope that the member will

this. I hope that the member will be aware that we have provided

be aware that we have provided be aware that we have provided

extra staff for a Belfast area. extra staff for a Belfast area.

extra staff for a Belfast area. This sorry episode is typical of

This sorry episode is typical of This sorry episode is typical of

what we expect from his department what we expect from his department

what we expect from his department blundering from one humiliating to

blundering from one humiliating to blundering from one humiliating to

another. In any other industry, the another. In any other industry, the

another. In any other industry, the Minister and those involved would

Minister and those involved would Minister and those involved would

have been sacked or months ago. have been sacked or months ago.

have been sacked or months ago. Does the Minister agree that these

Does the Minister agree that these Does the Minister agree that these

have a knock-on impact affect on have a knock-on impact affect on

have a knock-on impact affect on all farmers across the province,

all farmers across the province, all farmers across the province,

all farmers across the province, there is that had been a OK have

there is that had been a OK have there is that had been a OK have

found it impossible to make an found it impossible to make an

appointment with the local appointment with the local

appointment with the local department Office. I do not agree

department Office. I do not agree department Office. I do not agree

department Office. I do not agree it has had a knock-on effect for

it has had a knock-on effect for it has had a knock-on effect for

it has had a knock-on effect for all farmers. It needs to be put in

all farmers. It needs to be put in all farmers. It needs to be put in

all farmers. It needs to be put in context and not blow it out of

context and not blow it out of context and not blow it out of

proportion. There was a technical proportion. There was a technical

proportion. There was a technical proportion. There was a technical

problem on the third batch of the problem on the third batch of the

problem on the third batch of the problem on the third batch of the

maps, 9% of all of the maps issued, maps, 9% of all of the maps issued,

maps, 9% of all of the maps issued, they were identified quickly. It

they were identified quickly. It they were identified quickly. It

was unfortunate it happened, but it was unfortunate it happened, but it

was unfortunate it happened, but it was identified quickly and all of

was identified quickly and all of was identified quickly and all of

the farmers had been given extra the farmers had been given extra

the farmers had been given extra time to a finish their paperwork

time to a finish their paperwork time to a finish their paperwork

and if the member wants to and if the member wants to

and if the member wants to scaremonger again, I can assure the

scaremonger again, I can assure the scaremonger again, I can assure the

farmers there will be no penalties farmers there will be no penalties

farmers there will be no penalties farmers there will be no penalties

because of map issues. It was fixed because of map issues. It was fixed

because of map issues. It was fixed because of map issues. It was fixed

very quickly, this problem and I am very quickly, this problem and I am

very quickly, this problem and I am confident the action was taken

confident the action was taken confident the action was taken

confident the action was taken quickly to fix it. It only affects

quickly to fix it. It only affects quickly to fix it. It only affects

the farmers that received the map. the farmers that received the map.

the farmers that received the map. The underlying information that we

The underlying information that we The underlying information that we

have at the Department, it still have at the Department, it still

have at the Department, it still exists. These maps are wrong but

exists. These maps are wrong but exists. These maps are wrong but

the individual details were all the individual details were all

the individual details were all the individual details were all

correct on the system, it is just correct on the system, it is just

correct on the system, it is just correct on the system, it is just

these are maps badge were wrong, or these are maps badge were wrong, or

these are maps badge were wrong, or unfortunate, but it was corrected.

unfortunate, but it was corrected. unfortunate, but it was corrected.

unfortunate, but it was corrected. There were 3560 in the last batch.

There were 3560 in the last batch. There were 3560 in the last batch.

In ballast number of weeks when In ballast number of weeks when

farmers were visiting the farmers were visiting the

farmers were visiting the Department, will the Minister give

Department, will the Minister give Department, will the Minister give

assurance that enough time will be assurance that enough time will be

assurance that enough time will be assurance that enough time will be

given to these farmers to make sure given to these farmers to make sure

given to these farmers to make sure that everything is ratified quiz

that everything is ratified quiz that everything is ratified quiz

that everything is ratified quiz that everything is ratified quiz

back a lot of time is hot enough. - back a lot of time is hot enough. -

back a lot of time is hot enough. - - the allotted time. The large

- the allotted time. The large - the allotted time. The large

number of mops were perfectly fine. number of mops were perfectly fine.

number of mops were perfectly fine. number of mops were perfectly fine.

There are a number of features that There are a number of features that

There are a number of features that There are a number of features that

when you are mapped a field and try when you are mapped a field and try

when you are mapped a field and try and get every incorrect, this is

and get every incorrect, this is and get every incorrect, this is

two way process, the department and two way process, the department and

two way process, the department and the farmer, let's work together to

the farmer, let's work together to the farmer, let's work together to

the farmer, let's work together to get these are maps are right. That

get these are maps are right. That get these are maps are right. That

get these are maps are right. That is what we're trying to do right

is what we're trying to do right is what we're trying to do right

is what we're trying to do right now. A have allowed extra time and

now. A have allowed extra time and now. A have allowed extra time and

now. A have allowed extra time and it Army bomb needs extra time, we

it Army bomb needs extra time, we it Army bomb needs extra time, we

it Army bomb needs extra time, we will go up with them to make sure

will go up with them to make sure will go up with them to make sure

they get the mapping system right. they get the mapping system right.

they get the mapping system right. There is �300 million of European

There is �300 million of European There is �300 million of European

There is �300 million of European money that we want to be able to

money that we want to be able to money that we want to be able to

get a mixture Palmer drawn than get a mixture Palmer drawn than

get a mixture Palmer drawn than appropriately, to make sure the

appropriately, to make sure the appropriately, to make sure the

maps are right are but their maps are right are but their

responsibilities. Given that other responsibilities. Given that other

responsibilities. Given that other areas achieved similar scores, are

areas achieved similar scores, are areas achieved similar scores, are

areas achieved similar scores, are you saying that they do not warrant

you saying that they do not warrant you saying that they do not warrant

further scrutiny and Assessment? further scrutiny and Assessment?

further scrutiny and Assessment? further scrutiny and Assessment?

have said very clearly that we have have said very clearly that we have

have said very clearly that we have had a programme for government

had a programme for government had a programme for government

commitments in the rural area, and commitments in the rural area, and

commitments in the rural area, and commitments in the rural area, and

I took the decision based on love I took the decision based on love

I took the decision based on love I took the decision based on love

I took the decision based on love the fact is I have said, and I keep

the fact is I have said, and I keep the fact is I have said, and I keep

repeating its, we have looked at repeating its, we have looked at

the regional development strategy the regional development strategy

the regional development strategy the regional development strategy

behind this is all done by a behind this is all done by a

programme board, and established programme board, and established

programme board, and established programme board, they established a

programme board, they established a criteria that they score

criteria that they score criteria that they score

accordingly. We had two periods in accordingly. We had two periods in

accordingly. We had two periods in accordingly. We had two periods in

the north-west that came out on top. the north-west that came out on top.

the north-west that came out on top. Khalid Khaliq is valued for money,

Khalid Khaliq is valued for money, Khalid Khaliq is valued for money,

Khalid Khaliq is valued for money, it saves money in the public purse.

it saves money in the public purse. it saves money in the public purse.

it saves money in the public purse. They had the potential to use these

They had the potential to use these They had the potential to use these

businesses bear. This was taken on businesses bear. This was taken on

businesses bear. This was taken on all of these criteria which are

all of these criteria which are all of these criteria which are

very transparent our people to see. very transparent our people to see.

The Ariculture Minister, Michelle The Ariculture Minister, Michelle

The Ariculture Minister, Michelle O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has

O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has

said he's not convinced that said he's not convinced that

said he's not convinced that industrial relations at the North

industrial relations at the North industrial relations at the North

West Regional College will improve West Regional College will improve

West Regional College will improve without new leadership. The MLA for

without new leadership. The MLA for without new leadership. The MLA for

Foyle was speaking at last week's Foyle was speaking at last week's

Employment and Learning Committee Employment and Learning Committee

Employment and Learning Committee where the issue of a critical

where the issue of a critical where the issue of a critical

review into the college was review into the college was

review into the college was review into the college was

discussed, as we can hear now in discussed, as we can hear now in

discussed, as we can hear now in our weekly look at committee

our weekly look at committee our weekly look at committee

business. He will be aware that business. He will be aware that

business. He will be aware that this committee and local members

this committee and local members this committee and local members

have for three years been speaking have for three years been speaking

have for three years been speaking about serious industrial issues. It

about serious industrial issues. It about serious industrial issues. It

is the most critical and damning is the most critical and damning

is the most critical and damning report everyone under and the

report everyone under and the institution are university.

institution are university. Unquestionable failures in

Unquestionable failures in Unquestionable failures in

management on the board of management on the board of

management on the board of governments going forward. And am

governments going forward. And am governments going forward. And am

concerned that statements from the concerned that statements from the

concerned that statements from the chair, subsequent to and last week

chair, subsequent to and last week chair, subsequent to and last week

in particular, it does not instil in particular, it does not instil

in particular, it does not instil any confidence in me whatsoever

any confidence in me whatsoever any confidence in me whatsoever

that this culture of intimidation, that this culture of intimidation,

that this culture of intimidation, that this culture of intimidation,

best golfer of the year that is best golfer of the year that is

best golfer of the year that is evidenced in the independent report

evidenced in the independent report evidenced in the independent report

evidenced in the independent report is not been dealt with. -- this

is not been dealt with. -- this is not been dealt with. -- this

culture of fear. Its report raises culture of fear. Its report raises

culture of fear. Its report raises culture of fear. Its report raises

the issue is a challenge or the the issue is a challenge or the

the issue is a challenge or the board of governors. It raises

board of governors. It raises board of governors. It raises

issues that are of challenged to issues that are of challenged to

issues that are of challenged to the unions and how they have

the unions and how they have conducted themselves and others

conducted themselves and others conducted themselves and others

clearly it raises a significance clearly it raises a significance

clearly it raises a significance number of issues that are

number of issues that are number of issues that are

challenged to the management in the challenged to the management in the

challenged to the management in the college. I appoint the chair and

college. I appoint the chair and college. I appoint the chair and

the members of the Board of the members of the Board of

the members of the Board of Governors, and they are directly

Governors, and they are directly Governors, and they are directly

accountable to me and the accountable to me and the

accountable to me and the accountable to me and the

department. I am happy to give them department. I am happy to give them

department. I am happy to give them department. I am happy to give them

the space now to take on board the the space now to take on board the

the space now to take on board the recommendations. The board has been

recommendations. The board has been recommendations. The board has been

very clear in that they fully very clear in that they fully

very clear in that they fully accept the recommendations of this

accept the recommendations of this report. Each college improvement

report. Each college improvement report. Each college improvement

report. Each college improvement plan was put in place in December.

plan was put in place in December. plan was put in place in December.

plan was put in place in December. We had an ongoing discussion with a

We had an ongoing discussion with a We had an ongoing discussion with a

clear sense of direction as the clear sense of direction as the

clear sense of direction as the reward has been compiled. -- report

reward has been compiled. -- report reward has been compiled. -- report

reward has been compiled. -- report was being compiled. We need to give

was being compiled. We need to give was being compiled. We need to give

them the space to proceed and them the space to proceed and

deliver on the recommendations. deliver on the recommendations.

deliver on the recommendations. This has been fundamental form the

This has been fundamental form the This has been fundamental form the

This has been fundamental form the four of her three years. I have had

four of her three years. I have had four of her three years. I have had

four of her three years. I have had many people in mind of this and

many people in mind of this and many people in mind of this and

they repeated again about grown men they repeated again about grown men

they repeated again about grown men they repeated again about grown men

being in tears about the way they being in tears about the way they

being in tears about the way they being in tears about the way they

were treated in that college. I am were treated in that college. I am

were treated in that college. I am saying is very clearly, this

saying is very clearly, this saying is very clearly, this

committee that has taken such a committee that has taken such a

committee that has taken such a very clear interest on the human

very clear interest on the human very clear interest on the human

rights of workers in this college, rights of workers in this college,

rights of workers in this college, that we should be considering

that we should be considering that we should be considering

that we should be considering putting a much into the house. This

putting a much into the house. This putting a much into the house. This

putting a much into the house. This is too important to let go. --

is too important to let go. -- is too important to let go. --

putting emotion to the house. Those putting emotion to the house. Those

putting emotion to the house. Those that carried out this culture of

that carried out this culture of that carried out this culture of

fear and intimidation, we need to fear and intimidation, we need to

fear and intimidation, we need to investigate them. The bog were

investigate them. The bog were investigate them. The bog were

frightened, they were not motivated, frightened, they were not motivated,

frightened, they were not motivated, there was low morale, they were

there was low morale, they were there was low morale, they were

there was low morale, they were frightened to go to work. I think

frightened to go to work. I think frightened to go to work. I think

with your consent, we should with your consent, we should

with your consent, we should consider bringing forward a motion

consider bringing forward a motion consider bringing forward a motion

for future deliberations. The board for future deliberations. The board

for future deliberations. The board of governors does have a challenge

of governors does have a challenge of governors does have a challenge

of governors does have a challenge to meet the at broods in rebuilding

to meet the at broods in rebuilding to meet the at broods in rebuilding

trust and confidence in the wider trust and confidence in the wider

community, particularly in the community, particularly in the

community, particularly in the north-west. Bus to meet the board

north-west. Bus to meet the board north-west. Bus to meet the board

in rebuilding trust. We will update in rebuilding trust. We will update

in rebuilding trust. We will update in rebuilding trust. We will update

on how things are going and no get on how things are going and no get

on how things are going and no get the overarching impression on the

the overarching impression on the the overarching impression on the

college. There is a fear of industrial relations.

industrial relations. The Employment and Learning

The Employment and Learning The Employment and Learning

Minister, Stephen Farry. And The Minister, Stephen Farry. And The

Detail's Political Correspondent, Detail's Political Correspondent,

Detail's Political Correspondent, Steven McCaffery, is with me again.

Steven McCaffery, is with me again. Steven McCaffery, is with me again.

Steven, just going back to the Steven, just going back to the

discussion on the Sexual discussion on the Sexual

Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM

Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM questions - you think you've picked

questions - you think you've picked questions - you think you've picked

up on something of a recurring up on something of a recurring

up on something of a recurring theme there. I noticed on this

theme there. I noticed on this theme there. I noticed on this

occasion when Best came top, the occasion when Best came top, the

occasion when Best came top, the question session ended with a

question session ended with a question session ended with a

friendly question to be Minister friendly question to be Minister

friendly question to be Minister friendly question to be Minister

inviting him to use bow out that inviting him to use bow out that

inviting him to use bow out that there would be no additional

there would be no additional there would be no additional

entitlements for the National Ban entitlements for the National Ban

entitlements for the National Ban Bullying at Work Day community if

Bullying at Work Day community if Bullying at Work Day community if

Bullying at Work Day community if these do sees the light of day, so

these do sees the light of day, so these do sees the light of day, so

we. A decision. -- additional we. A decision. -- additional

we. A decision. -- additional entitlements for the gay community.

entitlements for the gay community. entitlements for the gay community.

entitlements for the gay community. And he very much for joining us on

And he very much for joining us on And he very much for joining us on

And he very much for joining us on the programme. We will be back with

the programme. We will be back with the programme. We will be back with

that the one first denied at that the one first denied at