05/03/2013 Stormont Today


05/03/2013

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Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Hello and welcome to Stormont Today.

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Hello and welcome to Stormont Today. Coming up on the programme:

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Coming up on the programme: Unionists and nationalists clash

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Unionists and nationalists clash Unionists and nationalists clash

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over the First Minister's comments on policing.

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on policing. on policing.

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on policing. We'll be hearing both sides of the

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argument. argument.

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argument. And, find out why the former

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And, find out why the former broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched

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broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched broadcaster Mike Nesbitt ditched

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the script at question time. thank the...

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thank the... thank the...

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The Detail's Steven McCaffery will The Detail's Steven McCaffery will

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The Detail's Steven McCaffery will The Detail's Steven McCaffery will

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be here with his analysis of the be here with his analysis of the

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be here with his analysis of the day's political stories here on the

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day's political stories here on the A relatively quiet day inside the

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A relatively quiet day inside the A relatively quiet day inside the

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Stormont chamber didn't stop our Stormont chamber didn't stop our

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Stormont chamber didn't stop our MLAs from making plenty of noise

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outside it. outside it.

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outside it. The issue most exercising them was

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The issue most exercising them was The issue most exercising them was

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a claim by the First Minister, a claim by the First Minister,

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a claim by the First Minister, Peter Robinson, that sections of

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Peter Robinson, that sections of Peter Robinson, that sections of

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unionism were losing confidence in unionism were losing confidence in

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the police's impartiality. the police's impartiality.

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the police's impartiality. Mr Robinson's suggestion has been

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Mr Robinson's suggestion has been angrily rejected by nationalists.

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angrily rejected by nationalists. angrily rejected by nationalists.

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We'll be getting political reaction We'll be getting political reaction

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We'll be getting political reaction We'll be getting political reaction

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in a moment, but first The Detail's in a moment, but first The Detail's

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Steven McCaffery is here. Steven McCaffery is here.

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Steven McCaffery is here. Steven, we'll be hearing from the

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Steven, we'll be hearing from the Steven, we'll be hearing from the

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politicians in a moment, but first politicians in a moment, but first

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politicians in a moment, but first politicians in a moment, but first

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just remind us how this row arose just remind us how this row arose

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just remind us how this row arose in the first place. The whole

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in the first place. The whole in the first place. The whole

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crisis around parades has been crisis around parades has been

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crisis around parades has been running for some months now. Police

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running for some months now. Police running for some months now. Police

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have been the subject of criticism have been the subject of criticism

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from Republicans and nationalists from Republicans and nationalists

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from Republicans and nationalists and on other occasions from

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and on other occasions from and on other occasions from

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unionists. This incident came to unionists. This incident came to

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head because unionists raised head because unionists raised

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head because unionists raised concerns over the most recent set

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concerns over the most recent set concerns over the most recent set

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of police tactics and appearance in of police tactics and appearance in

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of police tactics and appearance in court of two people prominent in

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court of two people prominent in court of two people prominent in

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the protest and a court appearance the protest and a court appearance

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the protest and a court appearance by a prominent Republican the fact

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by a prominent Republican the fact by a prominent Republican the fact

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that one person was allowed to that one person was allowed to

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that one person was allowed to benefit from bail and two didn't

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benefit from bail and two didn't benefit from bail and two didn't

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receive bail. Obviously, fed into receive bail. Obviously, fed into

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receive bail. Obviously, fed into some fresh criticism from most

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some fresh criticism from most some fresh criticism from most

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prominently from the First Minister, prominently from the First Minister,

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prominently from the First Minister, Peter Robinson. I think, that on

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Peter Robinson. I think, that on Peter Robinson. I think, that on

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the one hand, people accept that the one hand, people accept that

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the one hand, people accept that the one hand, people accept that

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the police have to be open to the police have to be open to

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the police have to be open to criticism. The courts have to be

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criticism. The courts have to be criticism. The courts have to be

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open to criticism that politicians open to criticism that politicians

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open to criticism that politicians should be free to make that

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should be free to make that should be free to make that

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criticism. There is a feeling that criticism. There is a feeling that

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criticism. There is a feeling that criticism. There is a feeling that

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perhaps the DUP have gone for the perhaps the DUP have gone for the

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perhaps the DUP have gone for the nuclear option and some surprise

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nuclear option and some surprise nuclear option and some surprise

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it's Peter Robinson making the it's Peter Robinson making the

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it's Peter Robinson making the comments and framing them around

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comments and framing them around comments and framing them around

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the wider issue in confidence on policing.

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policing. policing.

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Well let's hear from the Well let's hear from the

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politicians themselves now. politicians themselves now.

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Our political editor, Mark Our political editor, Mark

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Our political editor, Mark Devenport, first caught up with the

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Devenport, first caught up with the Devenport, first caught up with the

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Chair of the Justice Committee, the Chair of the Justice Committee, the

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Chair of the Justice Committee, the Chair of the Justice Committee, the

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DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if

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DUP's Paul Givan, and asked him if his party now accepts Matt

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his party now accepts Matt his party now accepts Matt

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Baggott's assurance that there is Baggott's assurance that there is

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Baggott's assurance that there is Baggott's assurance that there is

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no bias. I welcome him dealing with no bias. I welcome him dealing with

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no bias. I welcome him dealing with no bias. I welcome him dealing with

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this publicly. What I would like to this publicly. What I would like to

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this publicly. What I would like to see is the police explaining the

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see is the police explaining the see is the police explaining the

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rational for how they police rational for how they police

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loyalist protest compared to loyalist protest compared to

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republican protests. They use republican protests. They use

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different tactics. The republican different tactics. The republican

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different tactics. The republican protest over the weekend had no

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protest over the weekend had no protest over the weekend had no

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police presence there. They watched police presence there. They watched

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police presence there. They watched police presence there. They watched

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it from a helicopter. One that took it from a helicopter. One that took

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it from a helicopter. One that took place in Carrick had more police

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place in Carrick had more police officers there than protesters.

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officers there than protesters. officers there than protesters.

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Matt Baggott needs to explain this Matt Baggott needs to explain this

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Matt Baggott needs to explain this so people don't continue this

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so people don't continue this alienation where the loyalist

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alienation where the loyalist alienation where the loyalist

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community are feeling they are community are feeling they are

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community are feeling they are being victimised by the police. It

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being victimised by the police. It being victimised by the police. It

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being victimised by the police. It is important we don't allow that to

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is important we don't allow that to is important we don't allow that to

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resonate within that community. resonate within that community.

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resonate within that community. moved on to the policing approach.

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moved on to the policing approach. moved on to the policing approach.

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The initial complaint was about The initial complaint was about

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different bail conditions in different bail conditions in

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different bail conditions in different cases. Aren't you fudging

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different cases. Aren't you fudging different cases. Aren't you fudging

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different cases. Aren't you fudging it in the way the judiciary is

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it in the way the judiciary is it in the way the judiciary is

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coming into account now? The police coming into account now? The police

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coming into account now? The police will make recommendation to the

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will make recommendation to the will make recommendation to the

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Public Prosecution Service as to Public Prosecution Service as to

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Public Prosecution Service as to whether they support bail or would

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whether they support bail or would whether they support bail or would

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whether they support bail or would oppose bail. The police do have an

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oppose bail. The police do have an oppose bail. The police do have an

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influence in respect of that. It's influence in respect of that. It's

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influence in respect of that. It's important that they explain the

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important that they explain the important that they explain the

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important that they explain the position that is they take. I think

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position that is they take. I think position that is they take. I think

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the judiciary and the courts also the judiciary and the courts also

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the judiciary and the courts also have a role to explain their

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have a role to explain their have a role to explain their

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have a role to explain their decisions in all of this and show

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decisions in all of this and show decisions in all of this and show

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decisions in all of this and show the public how they operate and why

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the public how they operate and why the public how they operate and why

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the public how they operate and why they take the decision that is they

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they take the decision that is they they take the decision that is they

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do so that people can fully understand it.

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understand it. understand it.

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Mark Devenport has also been Mark Devenport has also been

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Mark Devenport has also been speaking to the Ulster Unionist MLA,

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Tom Elliott. Tom Elliott.

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Tom Elliott. Mark asked him if politicians

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Mark asked him if politicians Mark asked him if politicians

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should be second guessing the should be second guessing the

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should be second guessing the judiciary and the police. We are

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judiciary and the police. We are judiciary and the police. We are

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not second guessing the judiciary not second guessing the judiciary

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not second guessing the judiciary not second guessing the judiciary

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at this stage. We heard what they at this stage. We heard what they

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at this stage. We heard what they have said. They have refused bail

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have said. They have refused bail have said. They have refused bail

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have said. They have refused bail to a number of people and given

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to a number of people and given to a number of people and given

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to a number of people and given bail to two others. It almost seems

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bail to two others. It almost seems bail to two others. It almost seems

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to be unexplainable. Quie clearly to be unexplainable. Quie clearly

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to be unexplainable. Quie clearly some people are being charged with

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some people are being charged with some people are being charged with

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very serious offences, some of them very serious offences, some of them

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very serious offences, some of them in connection with a murder, they

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in connection with a murder, they in connection with a murder, they

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get bail, and others, who are get bail, and others, who are

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get bail, and others, who are involved in street protests, what

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involved in street protests, what involved in street protests, what

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involved in street protests, what seems to be a pretty minor offence,

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seems to be a pretty minor offence, seems to be a pretty minor offence,

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don't get bail. There is an don't get bail. There is an

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explanation required, certainly to explanation required, certainly to

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explanation required, certainly to me, to the broad unionist community

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me, to the broad unionist community me, to the broad unionist community

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around why the difference is in around why the difference is in

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around why the difference is in around why the difference is in

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that. That is the reason I have that. That is the reason I have

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that. That is the reason I have that. That is the reason I have

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asked for a meeting for the Lord asked for a meeting for the Lord

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asked for a meeting for the Lord Chief Justice and the Justice

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Chief Justice and the Justice Chief Justice and the Justice

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Minister to get an explanation Minister to get an explanation

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Minister to get an explanation around that. Aren't you on a

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around that. Aren't you on a around that. Aren't you on a

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slippery slope? You could end up slippery slope? You could end up

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slippery slope? You could end up with a situation where the

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with a situation where the judiciary far from being

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judiciary far from being judiciary far from being

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independent will have to bear in independent will have to bear in

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independent will have to bear in mind, will there be a political

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mind, will there be a political mind, will there be a political

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mind, will there be a political campaign pushing us one way or the

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campaign pushing us one way or the campaign pushing us one way or the

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other pushing on these decisions? other pushing on these decisions?

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other pushing on these decisions? other pushing on these decisions?

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There has been a campaign for some There has been a campaign for some

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There has been a campaign for some time. Sinn Fein members have put

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time. Sinn Fein members have put time. Sinn Fein members have put

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pressure on where they are saying pressure on where they are saying

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pressure on where they are saying some of their people and their

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some of their people and their some of their people and their

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members aren't guilty of certain members aren't guilty of certain

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members aren't guilty of certain offences. They need to be released

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offences. They need to be released offences. They need to be released

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offences. They need to be released asap. You are trying to do the

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asap. You are trying to do the asap. You are trying to do the

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same? There is pressure there same? There is pressure there

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same? There is pressure there within the judiciary. I'm trying to

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within the judiciary. I'm trying to within the judiciary. I'm trying to

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within the judiciary. I'm trying to get a balance on this. I'm trying

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get a balance on this. I'm trying get a balance on this. I'm trying

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to establish whether the judiciary to establish whether the judiciary

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to establish whether the judiciary is coming from, where the judges

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is coming from, where the judges is coming from, where the judges

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and police are coming from. It and police are coming from. It

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and police are coming from. It and police are coming from. It

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hasn't been explained to me. I know hasn't been explained to me. I know

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that republicans are putting that republicans are putting

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that republicans are putting that republicans are putting

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pressure on them. It's up to me to pressure on them. It's up to me to

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pressure on them. It's up to me to ask those questions as well.

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ask those questions as well. ask those questions as well.

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ask those questions as well. With me now is the SDLP MLA and

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With me now is the SDLP MLA and Policing Board member, Conall

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McDevitt. McDevitt.

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McDevitt. What is wrong with unionist

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What is wrong with unionist What is wrong with unionist

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politicians, among them the First politicians, among them the First

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Minister, talking publicly about Minister, talking publicly about

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Minister, talking publicly about Minister, talking publicly about

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what they regard as a perception of what they regard as a perception of

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what they regard as a perception of uneven policing in the community

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uneven policing in the community uneven policing in the community

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they represent? That is not what they represent? That is not what

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they represent? That is not what Peter Robinson said. He said he

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Peter Robinson said. He said he Peter Robinson said. He said he

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believed policing is biased. Peter believed policing is biased. Peter

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believed policing is biased. Peter Robinson is First Minister of

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Robinson is First Minister of Robinson is First Minister of

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Northern Ireland because of the Northern Ireland because of the

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Northern Ireland because of the Good Friday Agreement. He accepts

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Good Friday Agreement. He accepts Good Friday Agreement. He accepts

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and works the institutions of the and works the institutions of the

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Good Friday Agreement. Amongst Good Friday Agreement. Amongst

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Good Friday Agreement. Amongst those institutions are an operation

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those institutions are an operation those institutions are an operation

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Ali independent police service. A Ali independent police service. A

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Ali independent police service. A Policing Board that is there to

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Policing Board that is there to Policing Board that is there to

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hold the police to account. A hold the police to account. A

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hold the police to account. A fundamental tenant of that new

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fundamental tenant of that new fundamental tenant of that new

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beginning to police something that beginning to police something that

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beginning to police something that beginning to police something that

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we will never again allow -- allow we will never again allow -- allow

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for political intervention or for political intervention or

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for political intervention or political addressing of policing. I

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political addressing of policing. I political addressing of policing. I

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know, the vast majority of people know, the vast majority of people

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know, the vast majority of people know, the vast majority of people

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who take a reasonable view as to who take a reasonable view as to

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who take a reasonable view as to what the First Minister was at

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what the First Minister was at what the First Minister was at

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yesterday, know that this was an yesterday, know that this was an

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yesterday, know that this was an attempt to try and give the

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attempt to try and give the attempt to try and give the

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impression that he was influencing impression that he was influencing

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police decisions in this police decisions in this

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police decisions in this jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of

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jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of

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jurisdiction. That is unbecoming of a man in his office. It's at odds

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a man in his office. It's at odds a man in his office. It's at odds

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with a new beginning to policing. with a new beginning to policing.

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with a new beginning to policing. with a new beginning to policing.

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To be clear about what he said hesm To be clear about what he said hesm

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To be clear about what he said hesm talked about swathes of unionism of

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talked about swathes of unionism of having the perception that

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having the perception that loyalists have been treated

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loyalists have been treated differently from republicans?

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differently from republicans? differently from republicans?

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differently from republicans? talked about the fact that it was

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talked about the fact that it was talked about the fact that it was

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his belief that parades were being his belief that parades were being

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his belief that parades were being treated differently. There is no

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treated differently. There is no treated differently. There is no

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treated differently. There is no question in my mind whilst he is

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question in my mind whilst he is question in my mind whilst he is

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entitled to have private meetings entitled to have private meetings

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entitled to have private meetings with the Chief Constable. My lead

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with the Chief Constable. My lead with the Chief Constable. My lead

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with the Chief Constable. My lead and I met the Chief last week, he

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and I met the Chief last week, he and I met the Chief last week, he

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needs to think, as First Minister, needs to think, as First Minister,

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needs to think, as First Minister, needs to think, as First Minister,

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whether it is right for someone who whether it is right for someone who

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whether it is right for someone who whether it is right for someone who

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is meant to be to be the First is meant to be to be the First

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is meant to be to be the First Minister of everyone in Northern

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Minister of everyone in Northern Minister of everyone in Northern

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Minister of everyone in Northern Ireland, to rush out of a meeting

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Ireland, to rush out of a meeting Ireland, to rush out of a meeting

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Ireland, to rush out of a meeting with the Chief Constable, rush to a

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with the Chief Constable, rush to a with the Chief Constable, rush to a

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microphone and Stoke tensions? microphone and Stoke tensions?

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microphone and Stoke tensions? microphone and Stoke tensions?

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would say that is not what he would say that is not what he

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would say that is not what he intended to do. He represents

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intended to do. He represents intended to do. He represents

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people. He happens to be First people. He happens to be First

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people. He happens to be First Minister. That can't actually ab

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Minister. That can't actually ab Minister. That can't actually ab

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position which stops him commenting position which stops him commenting

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position which stops him commenting publicly on a critical issue like

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publicly on a critical issue like publicly on a critical issue like

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this? We have an infrastructure this? We have an infrastructure

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around policing that prevents around policing that prevents

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around policing that prevents politicians from ever again trying

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politicians from ever again trying politicians from ever again trying

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to influence policing. Like used to to influence policing. Like used to

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to influence policing. Like used to happen around here. I know Peter

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happen around here. I know Peter happen around here. I know Peter

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Robinson is against the Good Friday Robinson is against the Good Friday

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Robinson is against the Good Friday Agreement. I know he doesn't

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Agreement. I know he doesn't Agreement. I know he doesn't

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Agreement. I know he doesn't support the PSNI. I know he doesn't

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support the PSNI. I know he doesn't support the PSNI. I know he doesn't

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support the Policing Board. That he support the Policing Board. That he

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support the Policing Board. That he support the Policing Board. That he

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wants the old RUC back. I know this wants the old RUC back. I know this

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wants the old RUC back. I know this wants the old RUC back. I know this

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because I here it every week... because I here it every week...

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because I here it every week... not sure he would say precriesly

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not sure he would say precriesly not sure he would say precriesly

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that. He does support the PSNI? that. He does support the PSNI?

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that. He does support the PSNI? It's not coming back. His comments

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It's not coming back. His comments It's not coming back. His comments

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It's not coming back. His comments today leave an open question as to

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today leave an open question as to whether he unconditionly supports

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whether he unconditionly supports whether he unconditionly supports

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whether he unconditionly supports the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when

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the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when

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the PSNI. He supports the PSNI when they are doing he wants them to do.

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they are doing he wants them to do. they are doing he wants them to do.

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When he does something he doesn't When he does something he doesn't

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When he does something he doesn't When he does something he doesn't

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agree with he wants to be free... agree with he wants to be free...

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agree with he wants to be free... You can be critical of an

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You can be critical of an You can be critical of an

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organisation and still support. It organisation and still support. It

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organisation and still support. It you have been critical... I would

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you have been critical... I would you have been critical... I would

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like to see the First Minister like to see the First Minister

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like to see the First Minister issue a public statement supporting

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issue a public statement supporting issue a public statement supporting

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issue a public statement supporting the PSNI and the policing Board and

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the PSNI and the policing Board and asserting the authority and

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asserting the authority and operational independence of the

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operational independence of the Chief Constable and the

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Chief Constable and the independence and the accountability

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independence and the accountability independence and the accountability

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supremacy of the Policing Board. supremacy of the Policing Board.

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supremacy of the Policing Board. supremacy of the Policing Board.

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What we had from DUP spokes people What we had from DUP spokes people

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What we had from DUP spokes people What we had from DUP spokes people

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all day today has been anything but all day today has been anything but

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all day today has been anything but all day today has been anything but

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that. What do you make of what has that. What do you make of what has

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that. What do you make of what has that. What do you make of what has

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been said there? It sounds like he been said there? It sounds like he

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been said there? It sounds like he been said there? It sounds like he

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is upping the anti-, there is no is upping the anti-, there is no

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question that Peter Robinson question that Peter Robinson

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question that Peter Robinson supports the PSNI, is there?

:09:22.:09:24.

supports the PSNI, is there? supports the PSNI, is there?

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terms of public perceptions, if we terms of public perceptions, if we

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terms of public perceptions, if we look at the criticisms made, for

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look at the criticisms made, for look at the criticisms made, for

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example around the issue who have example around the issue who have

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example around the issue who have example around the issue who have

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got bail and who didn't get bail, got bail and who didn't get bail,

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got bail and who didn't get bail, got bail and who didn't get bail,

:09:31.:09:32.

the details of how and why those the details of how and why those

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the details of how and why those decisions were made were listed in

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decisions were made were listed in decisions were made were listed in

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decisions were made were listed in court. It's not a case of decisions

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court. It's not a case of decisions court. It's not a case of decisions

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being handed down on high without being handed down on high without

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being handed down on high without explanation. The difficulty is, as

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explanation. The difficulty is, as explanation. The difficulty is, as

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explanation. The difficulty is, as far as the public is concerned this

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far as the public is concerned this far as the public is concerned this

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debacle hasn't helped explain what debacle hasn't helped explain what

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debacle hasn't helped explain what has happened or what didn't happen.

:09:46.:09:49.

has happened or what didn't happen. has happened or what didn't happen.

:09:49.:09:50.

has happened or what didn't happen. What the public see is a big row

:09:50.:09:51.

What the public see is a big row What the public see is a big row

:09:51.:09:52.

between unionism and the police. between unionism and the police.

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between unionism and the police. Two points emerge from that, is

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Two points emerge from that, is Two points emerge from that, is

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Two points emerge from that, is there a danger we are in a position

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there a danger we are in a position there a danger we are in a position

:09:57.:09:58.

of sleepwalking into what could be of sleepwalking into what could be

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of sleepwalking into what could be a dangerous and tense marching

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a dangerous and tense marching a dangerous and tense marching

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a dangerous and tense marching season? If we are, is it helpful we

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season? If we are, is it helpful we season? If we are, is it helpful we

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see, rightly or wrongly, the see, rightly or wrongly, the

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see, rightly or wrongly, the impression given there is a battle

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impression given there is a battle impression given there is a battle

:10:07.:10:08.

between police and unionism? One between police and unionism? One

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between police and unionism? One further point that perhaps the

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further point that perhaps the further point that perhaps the

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police might make, while the flags police might make, while the flags

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police might make, while the flags issue has dominated things and

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issue has dominated things and issue has dominated things and

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brought us to this position, it brought us to this position, it

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brought us to this position, it wasn't a problem that has been

:10:17.:10:18.

wasn't a problem that has been wasn't a problem that has been

:10:18.:10:19.

created by police, it was obviously created by police, it was obviously

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created by police, it was obviously created by police, it was obviously

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a problem, that it can be argued, a problem, that it can be argued,

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a problem, that it can be argued, was created by politicians. What

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was created by politicians. What was created by politicians. What

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was created by politicians. What this poipbtsz up is the creative am

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this poipbtsz up is the creative am this poipbtsz up is the creative am

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ba queue 'tis of the institutions ba queue 'tis of the institutions

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ba queue 'tis of the institutions ba queue 'tis of the institutions

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set up 15 years ago under the Good set up 15 years ago under the Good

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set up 15 years ago under the Good Friday Agreement, we have on the

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Friday Agreement, we have on the Friday Agreement, we have on the

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Friday Agreement, we have on the one hand a police force meant to be

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one hand a police force meant to be one hand a police force meant to be

:10:38.:10:38.

operation Ali independent and one operation Ali independent and one

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operation Ali independent and one of the most accountable police

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of the most accountable police of the most accountable police

:10:41.:10:42.

of the most accountable police forces in the world. It's hard to

:10:42.:10:44.

forces in the world. It's hard to forces in the world. It's hard to

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square that circle? It is a square that circle? It is a

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square that circle? It is a challenge. I point out the

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challenge. I point out the challenge. I point out the

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challenge. I point out the confusion in the mind of some DUP

:10:49.:10:50.

confusion in the mind of some DUP confusion in the mind of some DUP

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confusion in the mind of some DUP people as to whether they are in

:10:52.:10:53.

people as to whether they are in people as to whether they are in

:10:53.:10:54.

the institutions because of the the institutions because of the

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the institutions because of the Good Friday Agreement and want to

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Good Friday Agreement and want to Good Friday Agreement and want to

:10:56.:10:57.

Good Friday Agreement and want to be in them and outside them when it

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be in them and outside them when it be in them and outside them when it

:10:58.:10:59.

be in them and outside them when it suits them. They need to resolve to

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suits them. They need to resolve to suits them. They need to resolve to

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support the institutions of this support the institutions of this

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support the institutions of this state. We will leave it there.

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state. We will leave it there. state. We will leave it there.

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Thank you very much, indeed. Thank you very much, indeed.

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Thank you very much, indeed. Jonathan Bell came under pressure

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Jonathan Bell came under pressure Jonathan Bell came under pressure

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to explain why the long promised to explain why the long promised

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to explain why the long promised sexual orientation strategy yet to

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sexual orientation strategy yet to sexual orientation strategy yet to

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sexual orientation strategy yet to be published. We will update it on

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be published. We will update it on be published. We will update it on

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the development of the consultation the development of the consultation

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the development of the consultation document. Thank you. Could I ask

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document. Thank you. Could I ask document. Thank you. Could I ask

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document. Thank you. Could I ask him, if he could explain what is

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him, if he could explain what is holding the strategy back

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holding the strategy back holding the strategy back

:12:08.:12:09.

considering that the minister, the considering that the minister, the

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considering that the minister, the First Minister, has told the

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First Minister, has told the First Minister, has told the

:12:12.:12:13.

Chamber three times in the past Chamber three times in the past

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Chamber three times in the past year that the final strategy would

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year that the final strategy would year that the final strategy would

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be complete and published by the be complete and published by the

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be complete and published by the be complete and published by the

:12:20.:12:21.

end of 2012? Could he comment on end of 2012? Could he comment on

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end of 2012? Could he comment on reports in relation to his party,

:12:24.:12:27.

reports in relation to his party, reports in relation to his party,

:12:27.:12:29.

the DUP, have been dragging their the DUP, have been dragging their

:12:29.:12:30.

the DUP, have been dragging their neat relation to the publication of

:12:30.:12:32.

neat relation to the publication of a credible sexual orientation

:12:32.:12:33.

a credible sexual orientation a credible sexual orientation

:12:33.:12:35.

a credible sexual orientation strategy for a number of years and

:12:35.:12:38.

strategy for a number of years and strategy for a number of years and

:12:38.:12:39.

strategy for a number of years and his party is hostile? I can address

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his party is hostile? I can address his party is hostile? I can address

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that in reverse order, not hostile that in reverse order, not hostile

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that in reverse order, not hostile that in reverse order, not hostile

:12:47.:12:47.

to any human being. The member laid to any human being. The member laid

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to any human being. The member laid to any human being. The member laid

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out his question very well. I'm not out his question very well. I'm not

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out his question very well. I'm not hostile to any human being. Any

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hostile to any human being. Any hostile to any human being. Any

:12:54.:12:58.

human being regardless of their human being regardless of their

:12:58.:13:01.

human being regardless of their colour of their skin, colour of

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colour of their skin, colour of their skin political persuasion

:13:02.:13:04.

their skin political persuasion their skin political persuasion

:13:04.:13:05.

their skin political persuasion should be dealt with the dignity of

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should be dealt with the dignity of should be dealt with the dignity of

:13:06.:13:08.

human rights and human worth. We human rights and human worth. We

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human rights and human worth. We are committed to publishing a

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are committed to publishing a sexual orientation strategy. Junior

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sexual orientation strategy. Junior sexual orientation strategy. Junior

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ministers and OFM and DFM officials ministers and OFM and DFM officials

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ministers and OFM and DFM officials engage with the sector we continue

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engage with the sector we continue engage with the sector we continue

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engage with the sector we continue I would like to tell members they

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I would like to tell members they I would like to tell members they

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should not be seen reading out should not be seen reading out

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:13:51.:13:54.

supplementary questions. Mr Speaker, supplementary questions. Mr Speaker,

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supplementary questions. Mr Speaker, supplementary questions. Mr Speaker,

:13:56.:13:57.

I thank... I thank the Minister for I thank... I thank the Minister for

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I thank... I thank the Minister for his answers, and twice he said

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his answers, and twice he said his answers, and twice he said

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officials are engaging with the officials are engaging with the

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officials are engaging with the sector. Would he agree with the

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sector. Would he agree with the sector. Would he agree with the

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brain does acted that believe that brain does acted that believe that

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brain does acted that believe that setting up a consultative group are

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setting up a consultative group are setting up a consultative group are

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setting up a consultative group are is the way forward. -- would you

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is the way forward. -- would you is the way forward. -- would you

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agree with the rainbows actor? agree with the rainbows actor?

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agree with the rainbows actor? have met with different members of

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have met with different members of this sector including those

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this sector including those this sector including those

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represented, and we continue to represented, and we continue to

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represented, and we continue to seek the agreement that we could

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seek the agreement that we could seek the agreement that we could

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have a coherent strategy to go have a coherent strategy to go

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have a coherent strategy to go forward. Mr Speaker, can the

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forward. Mr Speaker, can the forward. Mr Speaker, can the

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Minister confirm that Arnie sexual Minister confirm that Arnie sexual

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orientation strategy will not orientation strategy will not

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orientation strategy will not create additional rights, but will

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create additional rights, but will create additional rights, but will

:14:47.:14:47.

merely be a reiteration of the merely be a reiteration of the

:14:47.:14:53.

merely be a reiteration of the rights that are already there.

:14:53.:14:55.

rights that are already there. rights that are already there.

:14:55.:14:55.

Consequently, we believe in the Consequently, we believe in the

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Consequently, we believe in the innate dignity and human worth of

:14:57.:14:59.

innate dignity and human worth of innate dignity and human worth of

:14:59.:15:00.

every human being, a slow repeating every human being, a slow repeating

:15:00.:15:02.

every human being, a slow repeating every human being, a slow repeating

:15:02.:15:05.

what I said before, we but not be what I said before, we but not be

:15:05.:15:07.

what I said before, we but not be what I said before, we but not be

:15:07.:15:12.

in a position to introduce any new in a position to introduce any new

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additional rights. We announced additional rights. We announced

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additional rights. We announced since signature programmes to the

:15:15.:15:16.

since signature programmes to the since signature programmes to the

:15:16.:15:18.

value of �26 million under the value of �26 million under the

:15:18.:15:21.

delivering social change framework delivering social change framework

:15:21.:15:22.

delivering social change framework in 2012. These programmes are

:15:22.:15:23.

in 2012. These programmes are designed to tackle multi-

:15:23.:15:25.

designed to tackle multi- designed to tackle multi-

:15:25.:15:26.

generational poverty and to improve generational poverty and to improve

:15:26.:15:28.

children's health and well-being children's health and well-being

:15:28.:15:31.

and education and life and education and life

:15:31.:15:32.

opportunities. Work on the opportunities. Work on the

:15:32.:15:34.

opportunities. Work on the implementation of the programme is

:15:34.:15:35.

implementation of the programme is implementation of the programme is

:15:35.:15:36.

ongoing. In January, officials met ongoing. In January, officials met

:15:36.:15:38.

ongoing. In January, officials met with the senior officials asked by

:15:38.:15:40.

with the senior officials asked by with the senior officials asked by

:15:40.:15:42.

the relevant Minister to deliver the relevant Minister to deliver

:15:42.:15:44.

progress and expedite delivery. progress and expedite delivery.

:15:44.:15:46.

Further discussions with lead Further discussions with lead

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Further discussions with lead officials took place last month and

:15:49.:15:51.

officials took place last month and officials took place last month and

:15:51.:15:52.

close discussions are continuing to close discussions are continuing to

:15:52.:15:53.

close discussions are continuing to ensure delivery at the earliest

:15:53.:15:56.

ensure delivery at the earliest ensure delivery at the earliest

:15:56.:15:57.

opportunity. I am confident that opportunity. I am confident that

:15:57.:15:59.

opportunity. I am confident that work on all of these signature

:15:59.:16:01.

work on all of these signature programmes is progressing as

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programmes is progressing as programmes is progressing as

:16:02.:16:03.

quickly and so efficiently as quickly and so efficiently as

:16:03.:16:05.

quickly and so efficiently as possible. There has been criticism

:16:05.:16:06.

possible. There has been criticism possible. There has been criticism

:16:06.:16:07.

levelled at the Department of levelled at the Department of

:16:07.:16:09.

levelled at the Department of Education at the time taken to

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Education at the time taken to Education at the time taken to

:16:10.:16:11.

deliver the numeracy and literacy deliver the numeracy and literacy

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deliver the numeracy and literacy deliver the numeracy and literacy

:16:13.:16:14.

scheme, but we have spoken to the scheme, but we have spoken to the

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scheme, but we have spoken to the Minister of Education to say that

:16:15.:16:16.

Minister of Education to say that Minister of Education to say that

:16:16.:16:17.

we want teachers uprooted prior to we want teachers uprooted prior to

:16:17.:16:18.

we want teachers uprooted prior to we want teachers uprooted prior to

:16:18.:16:19.

the summer to be ready in advance the summer to be ready in advance

:16:19.:16:25.

the summer to be ready in advance the summer to be ready in advance

:16:25.:16:26.

of the academic year. In light of of the academic year. In light of

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of the academic year. In light of the signature project and the

:16:28.:16:29.

the signature project and the the signature project and the

:16:29.:16:30.

employment of 230 teachers has employment of 230 teachers has

:16:30.:16:31.

employment of 230 teachers has employment of 230 teachers has

:16:31.:16:33.

referred to buy a Minister, it is referred to buy a Minister, it is

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referred to buy a Minister, it is uncertain from the Department of

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uncertain from the Department of uncertain from the Department of

:16:35.:16:36.

Education as to when these teachers Education as to when these teachers

:16:36.:16:37.

Education as to when these teachers Education as to when these teachers

:16:37.:16:38.

will be employed and are unclear as will be employed and are unclear as

:16:38.:16:39.

will be employed and are unclear as will be employed and are unclear as

:16:39.:16:41.

to how they will be employed. Can to how they will be employed. Can

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to how they will be employed. Can he bring clarity on these subjects

:16:43.:16:44.

he bring clarity on these subjects he bring clarity on these subjects

:16:44.:16:45.

he bring clarity on these subjects on how and when these teachers will

:16:45.:16:48.

on how and when these teachers will on how and when these teachers will

:16:48.:16:50.

on how and when these teachers will on how and when these teachers will

:16:50.:16:52.

be at Boyd? I hope that the when is be at Boyd? I hope that the when is

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be at Boyd? I hope that the when is be at Boyd? I hope that the when is

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that it would be well in advance of that it would be well in advance of

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that it would be well in advance of September. It would be much better

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September. It would be much better September. It would be much better

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September. It would be much better from our point of view to have that

:17:01.:17:03.

from our point of view to have that from our point of view to have that

:17:03.:17:04.

done earlier. We recognise that done earlier. We recognise that

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done earlier. We recognise that what we do with delivering social

:17:05.:17:08.

what we do with delivering social what we do with delivering social

:17:08.:17:10.

change is adding eight feature to change is adding eight feature to

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change is adding eight feature to which the department is already

:17:12.:17:14.

which the department is already which the department is already

:17:14.:17:15.

doing. There is a development doing. There is a development

:17:15.:17:18.

doing. There is a development doing. There is a development

:17:18.:17:19.

programme set out. We have a clear programme set out. We have a clear

:17:19.:17:20.

programme set out. We have a clear announcement, we have made it clear

:17:20.:17:22.

announcement, we have made it clear announcement, we have made it clear

:17:22.:17:22.

announcement, we have made it clear the way we want to see this scheme

:17:22.:17:25.

the way we want to see this scheme the way we want to see this scheme

:17:25.:17:26.

going forward. It is for one-to-one going forward. It is for one-to-one

:17:26.:17:29.

going forward. It is for one-to-one going forward. It is for one-to-one

:17:29.:17:30.

tutoring and it is on the basis of tutoring and it is on the basis of

:17:30.:17:31.

tutoring and it is on the basis of the beers that are presently

:17:31.:17:33.

the beers that are presently the beers that are presently

:17:33.:17:41.

unemployed teachers taking up those unemployed teachers taking up those

:17:41.:17:43.

unemployed teachers taking up those positions. -- the basis of teachers

:17:43.:17:51.

positions. -- the basis of teachers positions. -- the basis of teachers

:17:51.:17:51.

that are presently unemployed. This that are presently unemployed. This

:17:51.:17:53.

that are presently unemployed. This that are presently unemployed. This

:17:53.:17:53.

is the scheme as we have outlined is the scheme as we have outlined

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is the scheme as we have outlined it ended was endorsed unanimously

:17:56.:17:59.

it ended was endorsed unanimously it ended was endorsed unanimously

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it ended was endorsed unanimously by the Executive. It will be taken

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by the Executive. It will be taken by the Executive. It will be taken

:18:01.:18:02.

forward by the Department of forward by the Department of

:18:02.:18:03.

forward by the Department of Education. We have to fit into

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Education. We have to fit into Education. We have to fit into

:18:05.:18:05.

which every employment law requires which every employment law requires

:18:05.:18:09.

which every employment law requires which every employment law requires

:18:09.:18:09.

which every employment law requires us to do, so there are issues to up

:18:09.:18:10.

us to do, so there are issues to up us to do, so there are issues to up

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us to do, so there are issues to up our act and these issues will be

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our act and these issues will be our act and these issues will be

:18:13.:18:15.

raised by the department. None of raised by the department. None of

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raised by the department. None of them also difficult to overcome

:18:16.:18:17.

them also difficult to overcome them also difficult to overcome

:18:17.:18:18.

that would stop was meeting the that would stop was meeting the

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that would stop was meeting the that would stop was meeting the

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timetable that I have sat out. timetable that I have sat out.

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First Minister, Peter Robinson. First Minister, Peter Robinson.

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First Minister, Peter Robinson. Does the Department of Agriculture

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Does the Department of Agriculture Does the Department of Agriculture

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blunder from one humiliation to blunder from one humiliation to

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blunder from one humiliation to another? Well that was the

:18:25.:18:26.

another? Well that was the another? Well that was the

:18:26.:18:26.

accusation put to Michelle O'Neill accusation put to Michelle O'Neill

:18:27.:18:27.

accusation put to Michelle O'Neill during today's question time. But

:18:27.:18:28.

during today's question time. But during today's question time. But

:18:28.:18:29.

first the Minister dealt with the first the Minister dealt with the

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first the Minister dealt with the issue of resourcing the Rivers'

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issue of resourcing the Rivers' Agency following last summer's

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Agency following last summer's Agency following last summer's

:18:37.:18:39.

flooding in Belfast. Would she flooding in Belfast. Would she

:18:39.:18:40.

flooding in Belfast. Would she agreed that the rivers agency is

:18:40.:18:41.

agreed that the rivers agency is agreed that the rivers agency is

:18:41.:18:44.

under resourced, especially in a under resourced, especially in a

:18:44.:18:45.

under resourced, especially in a dressing risk areas highlighted in

:18:45.:18:48.

dressing risk areas highlighted in dressing risk areas highlighted in

:18:48.:18:49.

the floods last year? Nobody could the floods last year? Nobody could

:18:49.:18:50.

the floods last year? Nobody could have predicted the heavy rainfall

:18:50.:18:53.

have predicted the heavy rainfall have predicted the heavy rainfall

:18:53.:18:54.

have predicted the heavy rainfall of last year in 20th June 12,

:18:54.:18:56.

of last year in 20th June 12, particularly this heavy rain.

:18:56.:18:59.

particularly this heavy rain. particularly this heavy rain.

:18:59.:19:01.

Nobody could have been able to Nobody could have been able to

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Nobody could have been able to Nobody could have been able to

:19:02.:19:03.

predict this. We are looking at predict this. We are looking at

:19:03.:19:05.

predict this. We are looking at predict this. We are looking at

:19:05.:19:07.

this as an executive, but I have this as an executive, but I have

:19:07.:19:08.

this as an executive, but I have recruited extra staff in terms of

:19:08.:19:09.

recruited extra staff in terms of recruited extra staff in terms of

:19:09.:19:10.

recruited extra staff in terms of the work on going in the greater

:19:10.:19:13.

the work on going in the greater the work on going in the greater

:19:13.:19:13.

the work on going in the greater Belfast terrier. We have a four new

:19:13.:19:14.

Belfast terrier. We have a four new Belfast terrier. We have a four new

:19:14.:19:16.

Belfast terrier. We have a four new members of staff coming on board to

:19:16.:19:18.

members of staff coming on board to members of staff coming on board to

:19:18.:19:18.

be involved in regular inspection be involved in regular inspection

:19:18.:19:20.

be involved in regular inspection be involved in regular inspection

:19:20.:19:21.

of the drains to make sure that of the drains to make sure that

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of the drains to make sure that of the drains to make sure that

:19:23.:19:24.

areas are not blocked. This will be areas are not blocked. This will be

:19:24.:19:26.

areas are not blocked. This will be a halt to the rivers agency.

:19:26.:19:29.

a halt to the rivers agency. a halt to the rivers agency.

:19:29.:19:30.

Funding for flood alleviation will Funding for flood alleviation will

:19:30.:19:31.

Funding for flood alleviation will be prioritised based on the level

:19:31.:19:33.

be prioritised based on the level be prioritised based on the level

:19:33.:19:34.

be prioritised based on the level of risk for people and property and

:19:34.:19:35.

of risk for people and property and of risk for people and property and

:19:36.:19:38.

the associated costs to provide the associated costs to provide

:19:38.:19:39.

the associated costs to provide the associated costs to provide

:19:39.:19:40.

this. I hope that the member will this. I hope that the member will

:19:40.:19:41.

this. I hope that the member will be aware that we have provided

:19:41.:19:44.

be aware that we have provided be aware that we have provided

:19:44.:19:46.

extra staff for a Belfast area. extra staff for a Belfast area.

:19:46.:19:47.

extra staff for a Belfast area. This sorry episode is typical of

:19:47.:19:49.

This sorry episode is typical of This sorry episode is typical of

:19:49.:19:52.

what we expect from his department what we expect from his department

:19:52.:19:52.

what we expect from his department blundering from one humiliating to

:19:52.:19:54.

blundering from one humiliating to blundering from one humiliating to

:19:54.:19:56.

another. In any other industry, the another. In any other industry, the

:19:56.:19:57.

another. In any other industry, the Minister and those involved would

:19:57.:19:58.

Minister and those involved would Minister and those involved would

:19:58.:20:04.

have been sacked or months ago. have been sacked or months ago.

:20:04.:20:05.

have been sacked or months ago. Does the Minister agree that these

:20:05.:20:07.

Does the Minister agree that these Does the Minister agree that these

:20:07.:20:09.

have a knock-on impact affect on have a knock-on impact affect on

:20:09.:20:10.

have a knock-on impact affect on all farmers across the province,

:20:10.:20:12.

all farmers across the province, all farmers across the province,

:20:12.:20:13.

all farmers across the province, there is that had been a OK have

:20:13.:20:14.

there is that had been a OK have there is that had been a OK have

:20:14.:20:17.

found it impossible to make an found it impossible to make an

:20:17.:20:18.

appointment with the local appointment with the local

:20:18.:20:20.

appointment with the local department Office. I do not agree

:20:20.:20:21.

department Office. I do not agree department Office. I do not agree

:20:21.:20:22.

department Office. I do not agree it has had a knock-on effect for

:20:22.:20:24.

it has had a knock-on effect for it has had a knock-on effect for

:20:24.:20:24.

it has had a knock-on effect for all farmers. It needs to be put in

:20:24.:20:26.

all farmers. It needs to be put in all farmers. It needs to be put in

:20:26.:20:27.

all farmers. It needs to be put in context and not blow it out of

:20:27.:20:32.

context and not blow it out of context and not blow it out of

:20:32.:20:34.

proportion. There was a technical proportion. There was a technical

:20:34.:20:35.

proportion. There was a technical proportion. There was a technical

:20:35.:20:36.

problem on the third batch of the problem on the third batch of the

:20:36.:20:37.

problem on the third batch of the problem on the third batch of the

:20:37.:20:39.

maps, 9% of all of the maps issued, maps, 9% of all of the maps issued,

:20:39.:20:42.

maps, 9% of all of the maps issued, they were identified quickly. It

:20:42.:20:44.

they were identified quickly. It they were identified quickly. It

:20:44.:20:44.

was unfortunate it happened, but it was unfortunate it happened, but it

:20:45.:20:46.

was unfortunate it happened, but it was identified quickly and all of

:20:46.:20:48.

was identified quickly and all of was identified quickly and all of

:20:48.:20:49.

the farmers had been given extra the farmers had been given extra

:20:49.:20:50.

the farmers had been given extra time to a finish their paperwork

:20:50.:20:52.

time to a finish their paperwork time to a finish their paperwork

:20:52.:20:53.

and if the member wants to and if the member wants to

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and if the member wants to scaremonger again, I can assure the

:20:54.:20:56.

scaremonger again, I can assure the scaremonger again, I can assure the

:20:56.:20:57.

farmers there will be no penalties farmers there will be no penalties

:20:57.:20:59.

farmers there will be no penalties farmers there will be no penalties

:20:59.:20:59.

because of map issues. It was fixed because of map issues. It was fixed

:20:59.:21:01.

because of map issues. It was fixed because of map issues. It was fixed

:21:01.:21:02.

very quickly, this problem and I am very quickly, this problem and I am

:21:02.:21:03.

very quickly, this problem and I am confident the action was taken

:21:04.:21:05.

confident the action was taken confident the action was taken

:21:05.:21:07.

confident the action was taken quickly to fix it. It only affects

:21:07.:21:08.

quickly to fix it. It only affects quickly to fix it. It only affects

:21:08.:21:11.

the farmers that received the map. the farmers that received the map.

:21:11.:21:11.

the farmers that received the map. The underlying information that we

:21:11.:21:12.

The underlying information that we The underlying information that we

:21:12.:21:15.

have at the Department, it still have at the Department, it still

:21:15.:21:16.

have at the Department, it still exists. These maps are wrong but

:21:16.:21:18.

exists. These maps are wrong but exists. These maps are wrong but

:21:18.:21:19.

the individual details were all the individual details were all

:21:19.:21:20.

the individual details were all the individual details were all

:21:20.:21:21.

correct on the system, it is just correct on the system, it is just

:21:21.:21:22.

correct on the system, it is just correct on the system, it is just

:21:22.:21:23.

these are maps badge were wrong, or these are maps badge were wrong, or

:21:23.:21:27.

these are maps badge were wrong, or unfortunate, but it was corrected.

:21:27.:21:29.

unfortunate, but it was corrected. unfortunate, but it was corrected.

:21:29.:21:32.

unfortunate, but it was corrected. There were 3560 in the last batch.

:21:32.:21:35.

There were 3560 in the last batch. There were 3560 in the last batch.

:21:35.:21:36.

In ballast number of weeks when In ballast number of weeks when

:21:36.:21:38.

farmers were visiting the farmers were visiting the

:21:38.:21:38.

farmers were visiting the Department, will the Minister give

:21:38.:21:40.

Department, will the Minister give Department, will the Minister give

:21:40.:21:41.

assurance that enough time will be assurance that enough time will be

:21:41.:21:42.

assurance that enough time will be assurance that enough time will be

:21:42.:21:43.

given to these farmers to make sure given to these farmers to make sure

:21:43.:21:45.

given to these farmers to make sure that everything is ratified quiz

:21:45.:21:46.

that everything is ratified quiz that everything is ratified quiz

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that everything is ratified quiz that everything is ratified quiz

:21:48.:21:48.

back a lot of time is hot enough. - back a lot of time is hot enough. -

:21:48.:21:55.

back a lot of time is hot enough. - - the allotted time. The large

:21:55.:21:56.

- the allotted time. The large - the allotted time. The large

:21:56.:21:57.

number of mops were perfectly fine. number of mops were perfectly fine.

:21:57.:21:59.

number of mops were perfectly fine. number of mops were perfectly fine.

:21:59.:22:00.

There are a number of features that There are a number of features that

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There are a number of features that There are a number of features that

:22:01.:22:02.

when you are mapped a field and try when you are mapped a field and try

:22:02.:22:03.

when you are mapped a field and try and get every incorrect, this is

:22:03.:22:05.

and get every incorrect, this is and get every incorrect, this is

:22:05.:22:06.

two way process, the department and two way process, the department and

:22:06.:22:07.

two way process, the department and the farmer, let's work together to

:22:07.:22:09.

the farmer, let's work together to the farmer, let's work together to

:22:09.:22:10.

the farmer, let's work together to get these are maps are right. That

:22:10.:22:11.

get these are maps are right. That get these are maps are right. That

:22:11.:22:12.

get these are maps are right. That is what we're trying to do right

:22:12.:22:14.

is what we're trying to do right is what we're trying to do right

:22:14.:22:16.

is what we're trying to do right now. A have allowed extra time and

:22:16.:22:17.

now. A have allowed extra time and now. A have allowed extra time and

:22:17.:22:18.

now. A have allowed extra time and it Army bomb needs extra time, we

:22:18.:22:19.

it Army bomb needs extra time, we it Army bomb needs extra time, we

:22:19.:22:20.

it Army bomb needs extra time, we will go up with them to make sure

:22:20.:22:21.

will go up with them to make sure will go up with them to make sure

:22:21.:22:24.

they get the mapping system right. they get the mapping system right.

:22:24.:22:25.

they get the mapping system right. There is �300 million of European

:22:25.:22:26.

There is �300 million of European There is �300 million of European

:22:26.:22:27.

There is �300 million of European money that we want to be able to

:22:27.:22:29.

money that we want to be able to money that we want to be able to

:22:29.:22:31.

get a mixture Palmer drawn than get a mixture Palmer drawn than

:22:31.:22:32.

get a mixture Palmer drawn than appropriately, to make sure the

:22:32.:22:33.

appropriately, to make sure the appropriately, to make sure the

:22:33.:22:36.

maps are right are but their maps are right are but their

:22:36.:22:40.

responsibilities. Given that other responsibilities. Given that other

:22:40.:22:41.

responsibilities. Given that other areas achieved similar scores, are

:22:41.:22:43.

areas achieved similar scores, are areas achieved similar scores, are

:22:43.:22:44.

areas achieved similar scores, are you saying that they do not warrant

:22:44.:22:47.

you saying that they do not warrant you saying that they do not warrant

:22:47.:22:48.

further scrutiny and Assessment? further scrutiny and Assessment?

:22:48.:22:50.

further scrutiny and Assessment? further scrutiny and Assessment?

:22:50.:22:50.

have said very clearly that we have have said very clearly that we have

:22:50.:22:52.

have said very clearly that we have had a programme for government

:22:52.:22:53.

had a programme for government had a programme for government

:22:53.:22:54.

commitments in the rural area, and commitments in the rural area, and

:22:54.:22:56.

commitments in the rural area, and commitments in the rural area, and

:22:56.:22:56.

I took the decision based on love I took the decision based on love

:22:57.:22:57.

I took the decision based on love I took the decision based on love

:22:58.:22:59.

I took the decision based on love the fact is I have said, and I keep

:22:59.:23:01.

the fact is I have said, and I keep the fact is I have said, and I keep

:23:01.:23:04.

repeating its, we have looked at repeating its, we have looked at

:23:04.:23:04.

the regional development strategy the regional development strategy

:23:04.:23:05.

the regional development strategy the regional development strategy

:23:05.:23:07.

behind this is all done by a behind this is all done by a

:23:07.:23:09.

programme board, and established programme board, and established

:23:10.:23:12.

programme board, and established programme board, they established a

:23:12.:23:13.

programme board, they established a criteria that they score

:23:13.:23:16.

criteria that they score criteria that they score

:23:16.:23:17.

accordingly. We had two periods in accordingly. We had two periods in

:23:17.:23:17.

accordingly. We had two periods in accordingly. We had two periods in

:23:18.:23:19.

the north-west that came out on top. the north-west that came out on top.

:23:19.:23:20.

the north-west that came out on top. Khalid Khaliq is valued for money,

:23:20.:23:21.

Khalid Khaliq is valued for money, Khalid Khaliq is valued for money,

:23:21.:23:25.

Khalid Khaliq is valued for money, it saves money in the public purse.

:23:25.:23:26.

it saves money in the public purse. it saves money in the public purse.

:23:26.:23:27.

it saves money in the public purse. They had the potential to use these

:23:27.:23:29.

They had the potential to use these They had the potential to use these

:23:29.:23:30.

businesses bear. This was taken on businesses bear. This was taken on

:23:30.:23:31.

businesses bear. This was taken on all of these criteria which are

:23:31.:23:33.

all of these criteria which are all of these criteria which are

:23:33.:23:35.

very transparent our people to see. very transparent our people to see.

:23:35.:23:36.

The Ariculture Minister, Michelle The Ariculture Minister, Michelle

:23:36.:23:37.

The Ariculture Minister, Michelle O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has

:23:37.:23:38.

O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has O'Neill. The SDLP's Pat Ramsey has

:23:38.:23:39.

said he's not convinced that said he's not convinced that

:23:39.:23:39.

said he's not convinced that industrial relations at the North

:23:40.:23:40.

industrial relations at the North industrial relations at the North

:23:41.:23:41.

West Regional College will improve West Regional College will improve

:23:41.:23:42.

West Regional College will improve without new leadership. The MLA for

:23:42.:23:43.

without new leadership. The MLA for without new leadership. The MLA for

:23:43.:23:44.

Foyle was speaking at last week's Foyle was speaking at last week's

:23:44.:23:45.

Employment and Learning Committee Employment and Learning Committee

:23:45.:23:46.

Employment and Learning Committee where the issue of a critical

:23:46.:23:47.

where the issue of a critical where the issue of a critical

:23:47.:23:48.

review into the college was review into the college was

:23:48.:23:49.

review into the college was review into the college was

:23:49.:23:50.

discussed, as we can hear now in discussed, as we can hear now in

:23:50.:23:51.

discussed, as we can hear now in our weekly look at committee

:23:51.:23:57.

our weekly look at committee our weekly look at committee

:23:57.:23:59.

business. He will be aware that business. He will be aware that

:23:59.:24:01.

business. He will be aware that this committee and local members

:24:01.:24:02.

this committee and local members this committee and local members

:24:02.:24:04.

have for three years been speaking have for three years been speaking

:24:04.:24:10.

have for three years been speaking about serious industrial issues. It

:24:10.:24:11.

about serious industrial issues. It about serious industrial issues. It

:24:11.:24:13.

is the most critical and damning is the most critical and damning

:24:13.:24:23.

is the most critical and damning report everyone under and the

:24:23.:24:25.

report everyone under and the institution are university.

:24:25.:24:25.

institution are university. Unquestionable failures in

:24:25.:24:27.

Unquestionable failures in Unquestionable failures in

:24:27.:24:28.

management on the board of management on the board of

:24:28.:24:37.

management on the board of governments going forward. And am

:24:37.:24:38.

governments going forward. And am governments going forward. And am

:24:38.:24:41.

concerned that statements from the concerned that statements from the

:24:41.:24:43.

concerned that statements from the chair, subsequent to and last week

:24:43.:24:44.

chair, subsequent to and last week chair, subsequent to and last week

:24:44.:24:46.

in particular, it does not instil in particular, it does not instil

:24:46.:24:49.

in particular, it does not instil any confidence in me whatsoever

:24:49.:24:50.

any confidence in me whatsoever any confidence in me whatsoever

:24:50.:24:52.

that this culture of intimidation, that this culture of intimidation,

:24:52.:24:54.

that this culture of intimidation, that this culture of intimidation,

:24:54.:24:55.

best golfer of the year that is best golfer of the year that is

:24:55.:24:55.

best golfer of the year that is evidenced in the independent report

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evidenced in the independent report evidenced in the independent report

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evidenced in the independent report is not been dealt with. -- this

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is not been dealt with. -- this is not been dealt with. -- this

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culture of fear. Its report raises culture of fear. Its report raises

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culture of fear. Its report raises culture of fear. Its report raises

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the issue is a challenge or the the issue is a challenge or the

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the issue is a challenge or the board of governors. It raises

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board of governors. It raises board of governors. It raises

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issues that are of challenged to issues that are of challenged to

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issues that are of challenged to the unions and how they have

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the unions and how they have conducted themselves and others

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conducted themselves and others conducted themselves and others

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clearly it raises a significance clearly it raises a significance

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clearly it raises a significance number of issues that are

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number of issues that are number of issues that are

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challenged to the management in the challenged to the management in the

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challenged to the management in the college. I appoint the chair and

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college. I appoint the chair and college. I appoint the chair and

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the members of the Board of the members of the Board of

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the members of the Board of Governors, and they are directly

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Governors, and they are directly Governors, and they are directly

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accountable to me and the accountable to me and the

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accountable to me and the accountable to me and the

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department. I am happy to give them department. I am happy to give them

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department. I am happy to give them department. I am happy to give them

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the space now to take on board the the space now to take on board the

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the space now to take on board the recommendations. The board has been

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recommendations. The board has been recommendations. The board has been

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very clear in that they fully very clear in that they fully

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very clear in that they fully accept the recommendations of this

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accept the recommendations of this report. Each college improvement

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report. Each college improvement report. Each college improvement

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report. Each college improvement plan was put in place in December.

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plan was put in place in December. plan was put in place in December.

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plan was put in place in December. We had an ongoing discussion with a

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We had an ongoing discussion with a We had an ongoing discussion with a

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clear sense of direction as the clear sense of direction as the

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clear sense of direction as the reward has been compiled. -- report

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reward has been compiled. -- report reward has been compiled. -- report

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reward has been compiled. -- report was being compiled. We need to give

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was being compiled. We need to give was being compiled. We need to give

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them the space to proceed and them the space to proceed and

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deliver on the recommendations. deliver on the recommendations.

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deliver on the recommendations. This has been fundamental form the

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This has been fundamental form the This has been fundamental form the

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This has been fundamental form the four of her three years. I have had

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four of her three years. I have had four of her three years. I have had

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four of her three years. I have had many people in mind of this and

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many people in mind of this and many people in mind of this and

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they repeated again about grown men they repeated again about grown men

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they repeated again about grown men they repeated again about grown men

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being in tears about the way they being in tears about the way they

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being in tears about the way they being in tears about the way they

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were treated in that college. I am were treated in that college. I am

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were treated in that college. I am saying is very clearly, this

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saying is very clearly, this saying is very clearly, this

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committee that has taken such a committee that has taken such a

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committee that has taken such a very clear interest on the human

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very clear interest on the human very clear interest on the human

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rights of workers in this college, rights of workers in this college,

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rights of workers in this college, that we should be considering

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that we should be considering that we should be considering

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that we should be considering putting a much into the house. This

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putting a much into the house. This putting a much into the house. This

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putting a much into the house. This is too important to let go. --

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is too important to let go. -- is too important to let go. --

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putting emotion to the house. Those putting emotion to the house. Those

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putting emotion to the house. Those that carried out this culture of

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that carried out this culture of that carried out this culture of

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fear and intimidation, we need to fear and intimidation, we need to

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fear and intimidation, we need to investigate them. The bog were

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investigate them. The bog were investigate them. The bog were

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frightened, they were not motivated, frightened, they were not motivated,

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frightened, they were not motivated, there was low morale, they were

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there was low morale, they were there was low morale, they were

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there was low morale, they were frightened to go to work. I think

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frightened to go to work. I think frightened to go to work. I think

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with your consent, we should with your consent, we should

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with your consent, we should consider bringing forward a motion

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consider bringing forward a motion consider bringing forward a motion

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for future deliberations. The board for future deliberations. The board

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for future deliberations. The board of governors does have a challenge

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of governors does have a challenge of governors does have a challenge

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of governors does have a challenge to meet the at broods in rebuilding

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to meet the at broods in rebuilding to meet the at broods in rebuilding

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trust and confidence in the wider trust and confidence in the wider

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community, particularly in the community, particularly in the

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community, particularly in the north-west. Bus to meet the board

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north-west. Bus to meet the board north-west. Bus to meet the board

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in rebuilding trust. We will update in rebuilding trust. We will update

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in rebuilding trust. We will update in rebuilding trust. We will update

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on how things are going and no get on how things are going and no get

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on how things are going and no get the overarching impression on the

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the overarching impression on the the overarching impression on the

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college. There is a fear of industrial relations.

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industrial relations. The Employment and Learning

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The Employment and Learning The Employment and Learning

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Minister, Stephen Farry. And The Minister, Stephen Farry. And The

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Detail's Political Correspondent, Detail's Political Correspondent,

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Detail's Political Correspondent, Steven McCaffery, is with me again.

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Steven McCaffery, is with me again. Steven McCaffery, is with me again.

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Steven, just going back to the Steven, just going back to the

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discussion on the Sexual discussion on the Sexual

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Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM

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Orientation Strategy during OFMDFM questions - you think you've picked

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questions - you think you've picked questions - you think you've picked

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up on something of a recurring up on something of a recurring

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up on something of a recurring theme there. I noticed on this

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theme there. I noticed on this theme there. I noticed on this

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occasion when Best came top, the occasion when Best came top, the

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occasion when Best came top, the question session ended with a

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question session ended with a question session ended with a

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friendly question to be Minister friendly question to be Minister

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friendly question to be Minister friendly question to be Minister

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inviting him to use bow out that inviting him to use bow out that

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inviting him to use bow out that there would be no additional

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there would be no additional there would be no additional

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entitlements for the National Ban entitlements for the National Ban

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entitlements for the National Ban Bullying at Work Day community if

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Bullying at Work Day community if Bullying at Work Day community if

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Bullying at Work Day community if these do sees the light of day, so

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these do sees the light of day, so these do sees the light of day, so

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we. A decision. -- additional we. A decision. -- additional

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we. A decision. -- additional entitlements for the gay community.

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entitlements for the gay community. entitlements for the gay community.

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entitlements for the gay community. And he very much for joining us on

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And he very much for joining us on And he very much for joining us on

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And he very much for joining us on the programme. We will be back with

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the programme. We will be back with the programme. We will be back with

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that the one first denied at that the one first denied at

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A political programme focusing on the day's events at the Assembly and Northern Ireland Executive. Mark Carruthers is the guide through the corridors of power at Stormont, and is joined by key people from decision makers to opinion formers to make the experience enlightening and entertaining.


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