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Day two in the top job and Arlene Foster announces

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She names Mervyn Storey as her successor in Finance

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and appoints Lord Morrow to take over his old job

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And you can award yourself a bonus point if you remembered that he did,

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in fact, hold that post before a decade and a half ago.

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Two new ministers, but the First Minister stresses

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it will be business as usual in the coming months.

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We will have continuity of service, I think that's what people want to

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see, they do not want disruption of public services, and see us continue

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to deliver and we will do that until election day.

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But things were a lot less cordial in the chamber

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strong views on exactly what to call this place.

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Just to be clear I've absolutely nothing to confess, I have no

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problem saying Northern Ireland, it's not a term I use, absolutely

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not a term I use. And joining me with his thoughts

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on today's proceedings After some fervent media

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speculation, the new First Minister unveiled the changes

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to her ministerial line-up There must have been disappointment

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for several MLAs whose names had reportedly been in the mix,

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but in the end, Arlene Foster opted to go with

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the "safe hands make sense" policy. So, in comes Mervyn Storey

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to Finance and it's a case of welcome back to Social

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Development for Lord Morrow. As you know, he has served in that

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position before and I'm delighted he is taking up the position again,

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albeit only for a relatively short period of time and of course we know

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that the pre-election period is coming at us quite fast and the

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priority was to make sure there was minimal disruption to public

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services and to make sure that we continue to have practical services

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on the ground, while delighted board colleagues have said yes. I look

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forward to the great honour and challenge of being Finance Minister

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and we have an agreed budget and there will be the implementation of

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that through the Assembly. I want to peter Brooke to the former finance

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minister. -- I want to pay tribute. And thank her for placing in me that

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responsibility for the Department of Finance. I've been here before, it's

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like back to the future! And although things have moved on in

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some 14 years, since I was in Social Development, and I've been looking

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at how well it has been looked after, I hope he has left plenty of

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money, because I'm looking forward to my first day of briefings and to

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see exactly where we are in the department, but it is for a short

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period, coming to the end of this mandate, and I will apply myself

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with all my might to continue the good work that Mervyn Storey has

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been doing over the weeks ahead. I firmly believe that Mervyn Storey

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having been in the Department of Social Development can pick up what

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is happening in the Department of Finance and as far as the Department

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of Social Development, I believe he has been there before, he knows what

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the issues are and will settle into that belief without a lot of

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reacquainting of the issues so we will have continuity of service,

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people don't want disruption in relation to public services, but see

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us continue to deliver and we will do that right up until election day.

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Let's remember we had the challenge and Social Development for welfare

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reform and I have to work through those particular issues and I am not

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in any way underestimating the challenge that there will be, but as

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I endeavour to apply myself, as like I was in DSD, I will do the same in

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the Department of Finance because it is important to have continuity of

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service, as the First Minister said, and this year begins Northern

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Ireland with a considerable degree of hope and we need to see the

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fermentation of the budget, challenging as that will be, --

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implementation of the budget. And give Northern Ireland the stability

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needed. The new Finance Minister,

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Mervyn Storey. What do you make of the mini

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reshuffle from Arlene Foster? Make sense? There had been speculation

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that underneath this ministerial change be may get indication as to

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what an Arlene Foster lead DUP might look like, but she has gone to

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receive Conservative option, using the phrase continuity of service,

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but wants it to be an unremarkable change, going for two people who

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have been ministers before, making the point Lord Morrow was there,

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albeit a decade and a half ago, this and I think she is away there are

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only 10-11 weeks of this term left until we have the elections, so

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rather than doing something different, like appointing Alistair

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Ross or Peter Weir, something that would have been a story in and of

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itself, she has decided to leave the 15 changes until the other side of

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the election. Quite a vote of confidence in Mervyn Storey. Do you

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see him as somebody whose star is still in the ascendant? I think so,

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I think when you look at him in education, he was combative with

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Sinn Fein and now with Social Development, there is a sense he is

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from the more traditional wing of the party, from North Antrim, and a

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number of other people, like Simon Hamilton or Peter Weir, coming like

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Arlene Foster through the Ulster Unionist Party moving over, and

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weird as we have here Arlene Foster when she took over the leadership

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saying there is only one DUP. But like any other single political

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party it has its own branches in camps. And a job for any leader to

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keeping everyone happy. Quite a challenge for Arlene Foster after

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the May election, the number of department dropping, and she will

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have one position less to give out. Yes, and it is going to be a very

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short honeymoon period for Arlene Foster, because she has come to the

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leadership and vision of the DUP when they were at their peak. The

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last Assembly election, I sense they had peaked, and the only way is

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down. If they come out of this election losing a few seats, it

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feeds into the Ulster U slime that they are growing, and she may have

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to appoint with less posts. -- it feeds into the Ulster Unionist Party

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line. We will see what happens after that. And we will speak to you in a

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moment. Thank you. In the chamber, the Culture Minister

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faced question time today and, during it, she clashed

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with the Ulster Unionist Danny Kennedy over her reluctance

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to use the term "Northern Ireland". In fact, Caral Ni Chuilin

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was in combative form all afternoon as she answered questions

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from several unionists the Minister wasn't giving

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away any ground. The cost of the consultation was

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?14,300, a very success of -- successful consultation, 95% of

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responses expressed support for an anguished language act. It was

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published on the 18th of December and it is available on the

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departmental website. Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. Can the Minister not

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see that this consultation was a poor use of resources? When you

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consider the political reality, it is that such a bill would require

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cross community support. My party has medically and we will not be

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supporting any act like this. Because not only of how divisive it

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will be but because of the cost of implementing the use of Irish

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courts, and in the Assembly, the language humanist... Can you come to

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the question please? The political reality is when it comes to

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equality, the member and his party have a very poor record, very poor

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record of implementing what were lodged cited reports and

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internationally binding agreements. The Irish language act was in the

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Good Friday Agreement, and it has been an subsequent documents after

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that, I know the member is intelligent and I can't understand

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how he feels to see the 13,000 responses, 95% of which are

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supportive. -- how he fails. It came from right across its unity and

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ahead of some of your party are at. Can I ask the Minister, and plead

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with the Minister, to stop... To stop refusing to use the term

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Northern Ireland, simply for a political reason? And for no good

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reason at all. You are a minister in the Northern Ireland executive, you

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are expected to perform on behalf of the people of Northern Ireland, it's

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time you and your party realised that. First of all, as a former

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minister, I think that's a fairly pure question, and what's even more

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disappointing is the subsequent follow-up question. It actually

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shows that first of all, just to be clear, I've nothing to confess, I

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have no problem seeing Northern Ireland. It's not a term I use. Not

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a term I use. -- no problem saying. But I think the member asking a

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question like this, given his role in departments, real issue it is

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like backroom boy stuff, seriously! It is really sad summer like you

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asked a question like that. Yesterday the Deputy First Minister

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said this is an important year for unionism with the 100th anniversary

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of the Battle of the Somme, those remarks should not have been made,

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that is not just associated with the Unionist committee or those of a

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Protestant background, or other men, both Roman Catholic and resident

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Unionist and nationalist, leaving these shores to fight in France. --

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Protestant Unionist and nationalist. No one team unity owns the Battle of

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the Somme. -- no one community. Yes, I agree and I think you are

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misrepresenting the sentiments in which Martin McGuinness said he

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recognised the importance of the Battle of the Somme in the Unionist

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committee, he is well aware of the numbers of people, and indeed the

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background of the people who left these shores to die elsewhere, he is

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well aware of that. We have been very generous and consistent and

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open in giving acknowledgement and respect to of the events that will

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be marked. Martin McGuinness has done it, I have done it, other

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members have done it, I would encourage the members opposite to do

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this. It was a busy day for the Employment

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and Learning Minister today for further education

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in the Assembly. Stephen Farry told MLAs he wants see

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further education valued similarly to higher education

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and the school system. Today I am launching the new father

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education strategy for Northern Ireland, father education mean

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success. What I am outlining and the steps we will take to implement the

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new strategy will enable colleges to build on the green breaking

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achievements of the sector over the last decade. It will ensure colleges

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continue to vote for the important jewel role of developing a strong

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and vibrant economy and supporting social inclusion. It will also

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enable further education to be recognised as an equal and valued

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pillar of the education system alongside higher education and the

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secondary school system. In 2014 launch the review of further

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education in Northern Ireland and on the 2nd of July 2015 I published a

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consultation document on development of father education strategy for not

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an island, it was wide-ranging in its approach and considerable

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reasonable and national and international policies for several

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commitments, including underlying evidence

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commitments, including underlying analysis of best practice in further

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education colleges and colleges in other parts of the world. Details

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statistical analysis of education activity and the consultation with

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stakeholders. We have current and future jobs requiring increasing and

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high level of skills and breadth of knowledge. Over the next ten years

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the pace of change will accelerate, driven by globalisation, advances in

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technology, new business models and rapidly changing consumer needs. The

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planned introduction of bridges corporation tax can invigorate the

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economy. These development will lead to substantial changes in the world

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of work. Four key objectives, 21 policy commitments in the statement,

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could the Minister provide the more detailed figures in what the budget

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will be the in the next mandate and how many students will be supported?

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The FE sector has had difficult times over the years in terms of

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efficiency savings and cuts that have been passed on from the

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executive. In all of my approach to trying to find savings in my own

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department to address cuts that have been imposed upon us, we've always

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sought to as far as possible protect the front line. Sadly last year that

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was not something that was possible given the magnitude of the cuts we

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were facing and we have seen, regrettably, loss of some provision

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in terms of blazes. The first time we've seen a retreat for many years

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in Northern Ireland. We are still working through the implications of

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the budget agreed by the executive before Christmas. The incoming

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department of the economy is facing a cut and that will create a

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challenging context for all of the different skills that includes

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further education. Stephen Farry on the continuing

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challenges of managing his department in the current

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funding climate. Now, the eagle-eyed among you might

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have noticed two new faces on the SDLP's benches

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since yesterday. Gerard Diver has replaced

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Pat Ramsey as an MLA for Foyle and Daniel McCrossan has succeeded

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Joe Byrne in West Tyrone. Congratulations. I'm getting to

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grips with Stormont? I am, it's a big change but I'm getting used to

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it quickly. You've had to go through quite a few selection processes and

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people are a bit confused. One in October and one more recently. Why

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so many? Why this whiff of controversy about you? In October

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the focus was on selecting an assembly candidate. Joe has had to

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stand down earlier than planned and that led to the second selection a

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few weeks thereafter. If you were already selected to be the assembly

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candidate, surely it was obvious you would be the Co-op tea. They didn't

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have to go through a second selection process in which you won

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anyway. The party is very democratic and we don't do things by half

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measures. I'm very happy to go through both selection processes.

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You're a big supporter of Alasdair McDonnell. Are you now fully behind

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the leadership of Colum Eastwood? Absolutely. My loyalty was -- is

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with the leader. Colum Eastwood will continue with the great work. There

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are a number of changes. It's a positive note and eclipse of what

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Colum is about to do. You didn't back him for the leadership. You

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backed Alister McDermott. I backed the sitting leader because my

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loyalty were with the sitting leader, but now Colum is the leader

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and he has my full support. Do you have any concerns that you're

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backing for Alasdair McDonnell might count against you? Absolutely not.

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Colum get on very well and have a good working relationship and we

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share the same vision. We will rebuild the party and we will do a

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constituency by constituency that will happen over the next couple of

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months. You talked about your party being democratic. There was a rift

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in West Tyrone. You had your supporters and you are selected and

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you're here now. Some people weren't very enthusiastic about your

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candidacy. Has that rift gone away? Have you kissed and made up with

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those individuals who worked enthusiastic about you? That's a

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consequence of democracy. Not everybody agrees with the outcomes.

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I do believe those relationships have mended and will continue to

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mend. We all have plans for the party and the party membership from

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across the constituency share my vision on how we take the party

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forward. You might find it tricky to hold onto this seat in May. Joe

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Burns, if you look back to last time, he got the sixth seat with

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3001st preferences, which was less than half, or about half, what Barry

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Mackle Duff got, who topped the poll. That's one way of looking at

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it. Since then a lot of work has been. The SDLP gained seats in Omagh

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in the council election. Our vote went up when I was Westminster

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candidate last year. That sends a positive message that what we are

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doing is working and we will retain the seat. I'm very confident and I'm

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happy to be the representative. If you were very confident, you would

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have waited for the election in May and taken your chances rather than

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become what did at this stage. That's the true for answer. Joe had

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to go as a result of his ill health. It was a difficult decision for him,

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but he had all our support and we had to find an immediate

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replacement. I'm very happy to be that replacement. Good to talk to

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you and no doubt we will hear more from you over the next few weeks.

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The Agriculture Minister may have answered an urgent oral question

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on recent flooding yesterday in the House, but Members

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were still concerned about her department's response

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First up for Michelle O'Neill, though, was a question

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from her Sinn Fein colleague Oliver McMullan about the recent

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approval of local pork exports to China.

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The pig industry is an important sector here and die was delighted

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when China announced its intention to approve plans in the North for

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pork exports to China. Securing access to one of the primary new

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markets is a very welcome development and followed by my third

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visit to China in June last year which focused on negotiating these

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appraisals. It represents a major boost for the pork industry. It's

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difficult to precisely quantify the value of the market because of

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uncertainty around exchange rates and potential demand and other

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exporters. This trade could generate as much as 10 million in revenue per

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year. Given the uncertainties is difficult to know if the potential

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can be relied but when we work with the industry I'm looking forward to

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the potential that there and for the industry to reach into what is

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expected to become the leading consumer of pig meat by 2022 and

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what we have to offer is something the Chinese market values. I welcome

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the announcement this morning. Can she give the house some estimate as

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to the size of the two potential markets and also an update on what

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she's doing to get Northern Irish beef into the American markets?

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That's one of our priorities. We want to build on the successes we've

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had. We are working closely with the industry around the US market and

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the Philippine market for beef. They are key markets which the industry

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has identified. We are also working hard in terms of Australia add pork.

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There are a number of key areas the industry want us to focus on and

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that's the way we should be targeting these new markets. We've

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had some is excessive in terms of the monetary value of getting into

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these new markets. It's dependent on the take-up. Very much working in

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tandem with my department and the enterprise Department around

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showcasing our products wherever we can and also letting everybody know

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that what we have is fully traceable food that we can stand over, we have

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very wholesome food and that's one of our biggest strengths. She says

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she's been on the ground, she certainly wasn't on the ground when

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31 retail units were flooded. She refused to go out. That was in very

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poor taste. The minister at least owes those retailers of apology

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because of the negligence of her and her department. Can the Minster

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given assurance today that the problems that existed there will be

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remedied to such an extent that it will not happen again? It was sheer

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negligence. I don't agree with your assessment in relation to sheer

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negligence. What happened was clearly an example of a blocked

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grill. The grill was cleared in advance of the storm and it was left

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clear. Unfortunately we had extreme weather, three storms. That storm

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that affected lead to extreme rain and high winds which means debris

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got blocked up in the grill. As soon as the grill was cleared, the water

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flowed away within half an hour. The member will be very clear on those

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facts. I never refuse to go anywhere. I'm happy to meet anybody

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at any time in relation to flooding issues and the response of my

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agency. Has she made a representation to her executive

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colleagues that the businesses which have been victims of the flooding

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incident will be compensated in some way by this executive? I can't say

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it any clearer than what I've said. The executive agreed yesterday that

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we will take a look at the ?1.3 million and how best we spend that

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money. I would much rather protect businesses against flooding as

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opposed to giving them money to clean up afterwards.

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The flooding issue still very much on Michelle O'Neill's agenda.

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The Second Stage of the Employment Bill was on the floor today,

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so Stephen Farry was back on his feet.

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Northern Ireland is the only region of the UK in which implement law is

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devolved. This provides us with the opportunity and responsibility

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developed unemployment relations framework that meets the needs of

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our region. I was impressed by the arguments of

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many consultees who made the point that it is the quality rather than

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the length of consultation that matters. I was all social drug by

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the arguments against having the three redundancy periods. It is with

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regret that I have decided not to take forward that matter in the

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present bill as there is insufficient political consensus on

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the issue. I also believe it was an opportunity to improve workers

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rights, but in some cases that opportunity had not been taken. CBI

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had said it was broadly content with the bill but noted there would be

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resource imprecations. The CBI also believed that more could be done by

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the LRH to insure the claims are rooted out and the process speeded

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up. The CBI believed the bill was a missed opportunity to extend the

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qualification period for unfair dismissal to two years. Both of

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which would have brought Northern Ireland into line with GB. The

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department objectives to identify opportunities to reduce regulation

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and minister to burden on businesses while protecting the rights of Poyet

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is under the three key themes, early resolution of workplace disputes,

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efficient and effective employment tribunal 's better regulation

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measures has in general received a broad welcome from all stakeholders.

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Everyone wants to see less bureaucracy and more effective and

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efficient streamlined system. Employers and employees want to see

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these matters dealt with in an informal away as possible. If

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conciliation or agreement can be reached outside of a formal tribunal

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setting, that's what the majority of people want to see. Nobody wants to

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have to go through a formal employment tribunal because it is a

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context and burdensome process. Often resolutions -- opportunities

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for resolution outside the formal tribunal setting is something we

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should continue to explore at every opportunity. I only picked up this

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issue this week. Pat Ramsey was leading this. I don't know if it is

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a departmental or executive oversight we have an with. Zero our

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contracts. -- hour. I don't think something this big... It shouldn't

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be dealt with in emergency amendment and it would probably derail the

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bill and the other good stuff we want to get through in this mandate.

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Zero our contracts are undermining decent work. They are one of the big

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implement issues of our time. And the second stage

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of the Employment Bill And Chris Donnelly has

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joined me for a final word. What did you make of what Daniel

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McCrossan had to say? He seems an impressive candidate. He is

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something new for the party in that area. Joe Byrne was a veteran

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candidate. He made the point that Joe Byrne only got in last time and

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that's an area where Sinn Fein have a formidable electoral machine. He

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did well last year in Westminster, he grew the vote and presented the

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vote. I can see him developing his presence and if you do look at the

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SDLP now under Colum Eastwood, there are a number of areas where they

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have introduced younger faces, a different generation. You have

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Colum, Claire Hanlon, Nicola Balin will probably be the candidate in

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north Belfast. We see a generational change which has been successfully

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transitioned. It's ironic that perhaps Sinn Fein have missed a

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trick. They haven't so far made that transition and that will be

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interesting to see in the next assembly term for these people, what

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is the nation -- the competent relationship they will have is in

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opposition. Do you think that's something the SDLP needs to think

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about? After May, moving out of the executive and coming back clearly in

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opposition? One of the things they are trying is to present themselves

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as the younger face. Youth on its own will not deliver what they need.

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They have to find a place to call their own. They can only do that if

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they go into opposition and try to make noise or make critiques of what

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the government are doing across-the-board. Interesting

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thought. Thanks, Chris.

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That's it for tonight. The View is back this Thursday

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at 10.35 on BBC One and the new First Minister

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Arlene Foster. For now, though, from everyone

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in the team, bye-bye. dogs and like,

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I'd call them cannibals. We're talking hypothetical, here.

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Yeah. But, I, personally, would probably

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put the dog before me. I've got myself into a situation

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with someone

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