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Hello and welcome to The Election Wrap, your guide

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to all the day's news from the campaign trail.

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What does Brexit mean...of course, silly...it means Brexit.

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All the party leaders today were desperate to make that clear with

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their own modifications thrown in, naturally. Obviously the debate that

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you didn't take part in, you are getting a hard time on social media

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for not doing it, having seen that do you think you made the right

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decision? Do you think she watched it on telly with a cup of cocoa? If

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we only knew. We'll be visiting the most marginal constituency in the

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country, Gower in South Wales to see if Labour can topple the Tories. And

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in sunny Skegness for a lovely day by the sea to check if the folks

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there have already made up their minds to vote for. Thank goodness

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these two didn't do a Theresa May and leave empty chairs. Gracing us

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with their presence, Caroline Wheeler of the Sunday express and

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Jack Blanchard from the Mirror. Hello and first of all,

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let's bring you up to date with the latest developments

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on the campaign trail - and today everyone seems keen

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to focus on Brexit. Theresa May insists only she can

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bring back a good deal from those I am confident that we can fulfil

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the promise of Brexit together, and build a Briton that is stronger,

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fairer, and even more prosperous than it is today.

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No, No, says Jeremy Corbyn, accusing the Conservatives of fostering what

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he calls a toxic climate ahead of those talks. We will confirm to the

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other member states that Britain is leaving the European Union, that

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issue is not in doubt. But instead of posturing and pumped up animosity

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Labour government under my leadership will set out a plan for

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Brexit based on mutual interests of both Britain and the European Union.

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The Liberal Democrats, campaigning at a hospital in Kingston,

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issue a warning about the possible effects of Brexit on the NHS.

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Remember that lie, emblazoned on the bus, ?350 million of the NHS,

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everyone knows it is a blatant lie but now we've found out that the

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truth is even worse, it will actually cost the NHS hundreds of

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millions of pounds. In Edinburgh, Nicola Sturgeon says

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the more SNP MPs there are, the greater the chance of stopping

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a "hard Brexit". Meanwhile in Northern Ireland,

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the Ulster Unionist party Party leader Robin Swann says he'll

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oppose Brexit becoming a backdoor I, nor my party will tolerate any

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attempt to undermine the principle of consent. There can be no border

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up the middle, there can be no passport checks the citizens of

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Northern Ireland arriving at Heathrow. All our energies should be

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focused on the Brexit negotiations and getting the best deal for all

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people. We'll be discussing why

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Brexit's back at the heart First let's take a look at how

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the parties' approaches compare. The Conservatives are

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promising to bring down Labour accepts the end

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of free movement too, but would immediately guarantee

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the rights of EU Ukip wants a points-based

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system, while the Lib Dems On trade, Theresa May says we'll

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leave the single market but would negotiate to retain

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the benefits of both, while the Liberal Democrats

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want to stay as members. The SNP wants Scotland's

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place in the single On legal matters,

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the Conservatives say they would end the jurisdiction

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of the European Court of Justice. Labour would keep EU protections

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on worker and consumer While the Lib Dems

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would hold a referendum on the final Brexit deal before

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it was put in place. Caroline. Brexit, the Tories must be

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happy that it is back on a subject they believe they are top of. That's

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right, we've seen an election supposed be about Brexit not mention

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it for weeks, or indeed not have it as the main thrust of the agenda,

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that has changed today, one reason for this has been this tightening in

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the polls and the suggestion that the campaign strategists now see

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that in their focus groups its Brexit that can win the election for

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the Conservatives. The notion being that they can assure up their vote,

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they can say to Labour voters who voted for Brexit, we are the only

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ones who can deliver Brexit. They can say this into you could voters

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and that will help them get over the line, particularly as we are now

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seeing discussions, even if we find them fanciful, that could be a

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coalition government. So Jack we are not talking about the NHS, social

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care, unemployment or housing. We are talking about Brexit. Not the

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best day for Labour? In Venice Jeremy Corbyn made it the theme of

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his speech, he chose to do that you didn't have to. It was an active

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decision and I think it's because Labour can't run away from this

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issue, it will be one of the biggest this country has a red-faced, or

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suddenly for a hundred years. So Labour can't not have a position on

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Brexit, he had to make a big Brexit speech in the final days of the

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campaign. Conservatives think it is their strong point so Labour want

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want to talk about this issue for the next week but they can't just

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run away from it and in fairness to Jeremy Corbyn he isn't doing that.

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Are they clear on it? One moment they are criticising the Tories were

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saying that no deal is better than a bad deal, does this mean that they

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would go for a bad deal or a compromise that wouldn't benefit

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anyone. The terms are so vague, one person's bad deal is another person

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is no deal. Deal or no Deal? Exactly. I think everyone agrees

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that no deal is bad, nobody wants is to have no deal so to say that...

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Surely that's the difference in negotiating strategy. Theresa May is

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saying that if we get to a point with is about to deal it will be no

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deal because she is saying, if we don't get what we want we will walk

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away and using this notion that ultimately they have more to lose

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and we have four hours what Corbyn is saying is a more conciliatory

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approach to negotiations basically saying we should do this in tactile

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way, saying we want a consensus, we want one that will work well for

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Britain. She's taking quite a gamble in the way she's doing it, if at

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all. Park that will be a bit of a disaster for her. OK. You will be

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back in a second. One seat where Brexit may make

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a difference is Southport - a marginal Liberal Democrat seat

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where the Conservatives came Southport went Remain

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in the referendum, so is the Lib Dems' pro-Europe

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message going to help Is sunny south but still save for

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the Lib Dems, it hasn't swung since 1997. The Tories want it, to win it,

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they will need workers like those in Latham's Bakery. The ones I've seen

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the most of the moment are the Labour ones, the red ones. Sales of

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reserves and gingerbread men reflect surely's story. She's sweet and Mr

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Corbyn. I wouldn't have voted for him at the beginning, I thought he

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couldn't lead me down the garden path at one time. But the more I've

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listened to him, and I have listened, it's right what he is

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saying. It comes across as honest. You don't have to shout to be heard.

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I have no influence over the customers whatsoever. Education and

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the NHS decided Shirley's vote although Mr Latham has Brexit on his

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plate, higher import costs, worries about his Polish staff and customer

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trepidation at the tills. It takes away his feel-good factor and when

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you've got the feel-good factor you want to spend and buy cakes, so

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people are nervous of spending at the moment. And he thinks a

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Conservative government will calm those nerves. Of a great deal of

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admiration for Theresa May. -- I have a great deal of admiration. Who

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I think is doing a good job in difficult circumstances.

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Theoretically all it would take for Mr Latham to get his wish would be

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several hundred Lib Dems switching. But Pam says they will be another

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coalition is a thing of the past. I was a bit annoyed when they went

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with the Conservatives, that's what put me off them, in the coalition

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but you cannot hold a grudge forever. You've got to think, what

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is best for us, and that is best. The Liberal Democrats. Yes. Two

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years ago the Lib Dems held surfboard Buttle hammered elsewhere.

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The number of MPs dropped from 57 to only eight. -- they held surfboard

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but they were hammered elsewhere. But in many places that voted Remain

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in the referendum the Lib Dems will hope that their pro-European stance

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will help win back some and possibly others, no it's the voters to

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decide, go for what looks familiar or take a chance on change in a

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different direction entirely. Warhurst, BBC News.

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Now - there was a bit of a morning after the night before feel

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to the campaign today as politicians and pundits picked over the pieces

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I was one of those journalists! Where exactly was Theresa May.

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She'd sent Home Secretary Amber Rudd in to bat her place -

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even after Jeremy Corbyn's spectacular change of heart

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And it didn't take long for the Prime Minister's political

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rivals to criticise her for not taking part in the debate.

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The Prime Minister is not here tonight. She cannot be bothered so

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why should you. In fact Bake-Off is on BBC Two next, why not make

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yourself a brew, you are not worth Theresa May's time, don't give her

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yours. I think the first rule of leadership is to show up. She won't

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turn up to these debates because her campaign of sound bites is falling

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apart. The Prime Minister do not have the guts to come along this

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evening to tell us. Well, social media quickly

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got in on the act, with the hashtag "where's Theresa"

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trending on Twitter, and Missing May memes popping up

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all over the internet. Lee James Brown posted

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up this Where's Wally style picture,

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she's in the top-right hand corner, if you're having

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trouble spotting her. The Liberal Democrats

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tweaked their website, this is what you get when you search

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for a page that doesn't exist. And the Twitter account

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for the American political drama House of Cards had this advice

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from President Underwood Even Mrs May's Foreign Secretary

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didn't seem entirely clear when he was asked on BBC

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Breakfast this morning. I, I, I don't know exactly where she

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was, I can tell you whenever she was she was right not to be a bad debate

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because it was a yammering cacophony of views, many of them left, even by

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the BBC's own standards I think you would agree that that audience was

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notably to the left of many people in this country. The audience was of

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course picked by ComRes, but that's by the by.

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And the issue even came up when the Prime Minister was meeting

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voters at a West Yorkshire factory this afternoon.

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I am sure you are fed up of talking about and but just a quick one, the

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debate last night that he didn't take part in, you are getting quite

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a hard time on social media for not doing it today. Having seen that do

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you think you made the right decision? I'm running the sort of

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campaign I've run throughout my career which is a campaign when I

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get out and about and talk to people and listen to people and hear

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questions, that's what I'm doing today, it's what I've been doing

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throughout the campaign. According to Boris, it was a yammering

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cacophony anyway, did it make sense for her to miss it, Jack? He would

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say that! It might make sense for her political ends to avoid it

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because she is leading in the polls and she knows she's not good on TV.

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But the reality is that it looks terrible for all the other leaders

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to turn up except her, she looks frit as Mrs Thatcher would have

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said, a cynical ploy by a politician who knows she is winning and doesn't

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want to do it. But it made sense, didn't it? The argument is that if

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you are out in front and you are the Prime Minister you have nothing to

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gain from that in that sense. The notion is that people would

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literally start turning on her as we saw to a certain extent on Amber

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Rudd, and that's not a great look for a Prime Minister who is

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basically refereeing a quarrel. Politically she took the decision

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and it wasn't going to win her any votes ultimately so she didn't take

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part. I kind of agree with Jack to a certain extent that it doesn't look

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great. One reason why it doesn't for her in particular is that there have

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been so many questions asked about her ability to

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reach out to people and be personal. She goes to factories rather than

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meeting voters in the way that Corbyn does and I think that is what

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social media has tapped into. But the difference with this campaign,

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social media plays a bigger role than it has done on previous

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campaigns in the past so it quickly starts trends and the more they

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build in momentum the more difficult it looks for her. So where was she?

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We still don't know. When she was asked about it the day before she

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said she had to spend time thinking about Brexit. I mean, come on,

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that's ludicrous. And then she says I want to be out campaigning on the

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ground and none of it is true, she wasn't doing an event last night,

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she could easily have turned up if you'd wanted. I find it a bit

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embarrassing that the Prime Minister can't... Except that she did send

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Amber Road. Uninteresting strategy because we have seen Amber Rudd put

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out again and again as the spokesman for the Prime Minister -- that is an

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interesting strategy. That in the game is a gamble in itself. A number

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of people have suggested that she might even become the next Prime

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Minister after Theresa May, should things go pear shaped. She probably

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did a better job than it Theresa May to be honest but that is because

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Theresa May isn't good at this kind of thing and her advisers know it

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and that was why it should was too scared to do it. We've heard she was

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at Downing Street so maybe she was cooking dinner for Philip. She was

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asked if she had watched it and she dodged the question twice, she

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wouldn't even answer that straight. We'll leave that for a few seconds.

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One of the most closely watched contests in this election will be

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in Gower in south wales - the most marginal

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The Conservatives won the seat from Labour last time around -

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Bethan Lewis has been to meet the candidates.

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Mumbles, linking Swansea to the Gower Peninsula.

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No sign of the election here amongst the half-term busyness, but

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this is the UK's most marginal seat.

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The Conservatives' election taxi is back on the road, only two years

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after former policeman and assembly member

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Byron Davies took the seat in

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the biggest shock of the Welsh results last time.

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In this election he says he's not taking any notice

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And I have to say, my vibes are good.

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Unsurprisingly Brexit is high on the agenda.

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In the last 2015 election we had something

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in the region of just under 5000 people who voted for Ukip, many,

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many of those that I have spoken to have said that they can only see

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Theresa May as the person who will now take it forward.

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Out and about in Gorseinon it's another day of

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doorknocking for Labour's Tonia Antoniaz.

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She's a former Welsh rugby international battling to take

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Gower back for the party which held it for decades.

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Any lessons you can take from the rugby pitch to

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She says she's seen real examples of poverty

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Seven years ago when we had the Conservatives in

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Westminster, my life changed massively.

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I'm a schoolteacher and I was on my own and basically

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financially yes, I do have a good wage, but I was feeling the pinch.

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Ukip were third in Gower last time but what's the message now we are

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I believe Ukip has done extremely well by winning the referendum, but

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All we have had since is the triggering of Article 50.

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That alone is simply a useless piece of paper

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unless it is acted upon and I believe only

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a strong Ukip vote will

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The Lib Dems came fifth here last time.

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They say health, education, even fly-tipping

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Council and Assembly responsibilities, but

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still relevant to this election, says their candidate.

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The monies come from the UK Government, as Lib

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Dems for example we are pledging to put a penny on income tax to allow

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for more monies to go to the NHS and to be given to the Welsh

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Harri Roberts, I'm your Plaid Cymru parliamentary candidate.

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For Plaid Cymru as well it is a challenge to

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get their voice heard, but they argue voting Plaid

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Labour are so disunited and ineffective and the Tories

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represent nothing that will gain for Wales.

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There may be a bit of tactical voting going on after

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last time, but I'm absolutely convinced that the bigger the Plaid

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Cymru vote, the more the other parties will have to listen to us.

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Past experience suggests in this constituency more than any other

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And here is the list of candidates standing in the Gower consistency.

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Now Ellie is back with her balls. She has been on a tour of the UK

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during this campaign. With her balls.

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Today's she's been to the seaside resort of Skegness

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to ask people if they've made their mind up yet

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on who they will vote for in a week's time.

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Have you decided who to vote for? She's decided. Labour. I've always

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voted Labour. I decided about a week ago. I decided it better to keep

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what we've got. Why are you undecided? Because they are all as

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bad as one another and they make promises and it doesn't come off.

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Will you vote? I haven't decided. He hasn't decided if he's going to make

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a decision! I decide on the day, I'll just go and put an X on

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whoever. We want to do what is best for the disabled and we are not yet

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sure which party will do that, aren't we, Thomas. You've decided to

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be undecided, fair enough. Because of the weak leadership of the Labour

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Party of decided to vote for Theresa May for the first time ever, it's a

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break with family tradition that you have to do what's best for this

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country and Jeremy Corbyn isn't best. He knows what he's doing,

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Theresa May just once and for herself, I don't think she

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considering anyone else. But Iraq she just wants it for herself.

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There's been too much on the news for me to take it in, that's why, I

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think. Otherwise I would decide if I could understand it a bit more. I've

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decided for quite a while, just listening to the policies of the

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parties, forget the fighting between their politicians, it's policies

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that's important. I've done by post already. Improperly decided. Yes.

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They all in each other's pockets, it doesn't matter who is in government,

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it doesn't affect me or my wages my house. You don't think it does? I

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will vote for someone, I'm not sure who. Do you think you will make a

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decision? Eventually but for now we are just having fun. I can see. The

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good people of Skegness and those on holiday here have made their

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decisions, the trouble is, I can't decide if it is the decideds or the

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undecided Dexter who won the mood box today. The one thing I have

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decided is that I need an ice cream. Thank you, Skegness. There's too

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much on the news to take it all in. I'm with her. Ellie and her balls

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there. We've all learnt to be a little wary

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of the opinion polls after recent elections -

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and now there might The last week's seen them predicting

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widely different outcomes - from a huge Tory majority

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to a hung parliament. Joining us is Joe Twyman,

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Head of Political and Social research at the pollsters,

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YouGov. Joining Caroline and Jack. It's good

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to see you. Hi. YouGov, what's the latest thinking on what will happen

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next week. Well we are not thinking about what is happening next week...

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About what's happening now. We've conducted estimates for seat

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distribution based on what the polling is showing at the moment.

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And that's as we are looking at between 275 and 345 seats of the

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Tories. They need 226 for majority so it could be a hung parliament, it

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could be a small majority for the Conservatives. But on current

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polling is not the sort of three figure majority that Theresa May and

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the Tories hoped for at the start of the campaign when the election was

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called. So a definite shift. Have you had a poll done since the debate

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last night? Knox 's last night, we have updated our statistical model

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but the next poll will be out in the next couple of days. -- not this

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last night. Since last night several thousand new survey is going into

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the model replacing some from a week ago, it is all complicated but the

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upshot is that didn't change significantly. So why the polls so

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all over the place? That depends how you mean, all over the place, yes

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there has been a since the start of the campaign, not surprising given

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that in 2015 we had five years to look forward to the delight of an

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election and the last year that was one long campaign. This time we had

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seven weeks to get to know the people, their policies and bouts of

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thing. So perhaps not surprising that we've seen a lot of movement

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but generally speaking we have seen seen the gap closing. The question

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is, how far has that gap closed and that is where there is some

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difference. If you look at the underlying data, who people are

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voting for, when asked, if there was an election tomorrow, would you vote

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for, that data is pretty much the same for all the pollsters. It shows

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a small lead the Conservatives. Whoever you talk to, which method

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you use, that is what it is showing. The reason the difference is when

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adjustments are made for turnout. INAUDIBLE

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Elements to this, which party people support and whether or not they will

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turn out to vote. Two equally important elements, the adjustments

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made what is causing the difference. I write. Caroline. We had Shadow

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Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry said there would be no deal in the

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event of a hung parliament. Is that creeping into their minds that there

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could be a hung parliament. Think that's the message they need to get

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out because we don't want a rerun of 2015 with a story woods about

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whether there would be a labour- SNP coalition and that was the message

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we saw the Tories drumming home time. So Labour wants to get that

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message out as early as possible that they want to do a deal with the

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SNP so they can circumnavigate that argument. But there seem to have

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been suggestions that Mr Corbyn hasn't run ruled out a coalition so

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we are not sure what it all means and we'll learn more about this

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coalition of chaos notion as we move further towards polling day, I am

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sure. Are you hearing that they are thinking that there could be a hung

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parliament? They've always thought there was a chance of getting that,

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they were from such a low base, it was, what can we achieve in a snap

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election with only weeks to campaign and certainly some people in the

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Labour team were hoping they could do just enough to deny today made

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that majority and then who knows what happens, she'd have to resign

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so you won a big victory just by doing that. I must say spent a lot

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of time speaking to candidates from the Labour and the Conservative

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Party, people inside the campaigns today, and I can't find many people

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who don't think the Tories will win. Everyone I speak to, knocking on

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doors, this is not scientific, it's anecdotal, MPs making phone calls

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all day and they say, I don't think it's going to happen and that is

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from both sides. Great to have you all in. Thank you for joining us.

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That's it for the Election Wrap today.

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We'll be back at the same time tomorrow.

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Huge contrasts in the weather today, we've

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