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Good evening. Welcome to our first conference round one the | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
Conservatives here in Manchester. Top of the bill today, George | :00:26. | :00:32. | |
Osborne, who made it clear he was a Chancellor not for turning. The | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
budget deficit would be reduced as planned, there would be no fiscal | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
stimulus. The biggest boost the British economy could get he said | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
if the eurozone put its house in order. He claimed his unbending | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
fiscal stance did leave room for a loser monetary policy, in ways that | :00:52. | :00:58. | |
would allow business to borrow more. Here are the high lights of his | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
speech. Tomorrow morning I will travel to a meeting of European | :01:02. | :01:09. | |
Finance Ministers in Luxembourg. My objective is clear. The eurozone's | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
financial fund needs maximum firepower. The eurozone needs to | :01:13. | :01:17. | |
strengthen its banks. And the eurozone needs to end all the | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
speculation, decide what they are going to do with Greece and then | :01:21. | :01:31. | |
stick to that decision. APPLAUSE. Britain is not immune to all this | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
instability. Indeed, the resolution of the eurozone debt crisis is the | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
single biggest boost to confidence that could happen to British | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
economy this autumn. The time to resolve the crisis is now. They | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
have got to get out and fix their roof, even though it's already | :01:51. | :02:01. | |
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pouring with rain. Each day, people suggest to me different things we | :02:02. | :02:09. | |
should be doing. Some say "Borrow more for more spending.". Or they | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
say "Borrow more for temporary cuts in tax." So you would have to put | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
taxes up even more later. Don't think I haven't thought hard about | :02:19. | :02:25. | |
what more we could do, but I don't explore every single option, I do. | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
But borrowing too much is the cause of Britain's problem, not the | :02:31. | :02:41. | |
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solution. APPLAUSE.. We can unblock our banking system, we will help | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
businesses create new jobs. Here is how. First, we will help the Bank | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
of England keep interest rates at record lows while the economy is | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
weak. In a debt crisis it is the most powerful stimulus that exists. | :02:58. | :03:04. | |
A 1% rise in our interest rates today would add �10 billion to | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
family mortgage bills alone, at the worst possible time. We have a | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
deficit plan, that commands the confidence of world markets. And | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
has brought stability at home. Very few countries can say that today. | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
The fact that Britain can is thanks to the resolve of this party, and | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
we are generous enough to say this, it is thanks to the resolve of the | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
Liberal Democrats too, working as a coalition, together in the national | :03:34. | :03:43. | |
interest. APPLAUSE. So this is the second part of our plan. We have | :03:43. | :03:49. | |
got to get credit flowing in our economy. Of course, the Bank of | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
England have their own independent judgment to make on quantitative | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
easing. I have said many times before, I will follow the | :03:57. | :04:03. | |
procedures of my predecessor, and give Treasury approval if they ask. | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
But there is more, the Government itself can do to get credit flowing | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
and encourage investment. It is known as credit easing. It could | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
help prevent another credit crunch. Provide a real boost to British | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
business and overtime help solve that age-old problem in Britain. | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
Not enough long-term investment in small businesses and enterprise. | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
And if this party is anything, it is the party of small business and | :04:33. | :04:43. | |
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enterprise. APPLAUSE There are business practises, that are | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
irresponsible We will deal with them with a regulatory system that | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
works. But Labour's later policy, that there should be two newly | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
created rates of tax is frankly ridiculous. One for producer, one | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
for predators. One for companies a Labour Chancellor like, one for | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
companies a Labour Chancellor doesn't like. Imagine a Labour | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
Chancellor sitting there in number 11 every morning with a copy of the | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
financial times in one hand and the Guardian in the other, weighing up | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
corporate Britain on some home-made scales of justice, what a | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
completely unworkable idea. I think it is the moment, think it's the | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
moment when this opposition Labour ceased to be either a producer or a | :05:33. | :05:43. | |
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Predator. APPLAUSE. Tomorrow's World is being shaped. It is being | :05:43. | :05:50. | |
shaped here in Manchester. Manchester. The first city of the | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
Industrial Revolution. The city where the first computer was built. | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
Where Rutherford split the a Tom and the mill brand brothers split | :05:59. | :06:09. | |
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the Labour Party. -- a ment to -- atom. Manchester. Home to the two | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
brilliant scientists I met this morning who have just been awarded | :06:19. | :06:25. | |
the Nobel Prize for physics. Their prize was for the discovery of a | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
substance called graphene, it is the strongest best conducting | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
material known to science, to be used in everything from aircraft | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
wings to microchips. We have already protected the science | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
budget, and today, I am confirming that on top of that, we will fund a | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
national research programme, that will take this Nobel Prize winning | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
discovery from the British laboratory to the British factory | :06:49. | :06:59. | |
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floor. We have got to get Britain making things again. I have never | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
believed that Government should just stand on the sidelines, it has | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
no role to play in fostering enterprise and creating jobs. I | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
will intervene with the market doesn't work bg and set it free | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
where it does. And that is not it. We are today extending the mobile | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
phone coverage for up to six million people, the new right the | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
buy and housing plans David Cameron announced yesterday will build | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
200,000 new houses, create 400,000 new jobs, and we are reforming | :07:35. | :07:40. | |
public sector pensions so they are generous to public servants and | :07:40. | :07:50. | |
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also fair to taxpayers. APPLAUSE. And let me say this to the unions, | :07:52. | :07:59. | |
to go on strike at a time like this, when you are being offered pensions | :07:59. | :08:05. | |
far more generous than other people could ever afford, will hit growth, | :08:05. | :08:15. | |
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it will cost job it is totally irresponsible. APPLAUSE. We are now | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
going to make it much less risky for businesses to hire people. We | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
will double to two years the amount of time you can employ someone | :08:28. | :08:38. | |
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before the risk of an unfair dismissal claim. And I can tell you | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
today, we are going to introduce for the first time ever, a fee for | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
taking a case to a tribunal, the hit Gants only get back if they -- | :08:50. | :09:00. | |
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that litigants only get back if they win. We rending the one way | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
bet against small businesses. Two years ago, I stood here and said we | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
would cut the cost of central bureaucracy by a third. Some were | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
sceptical of politicians who said they could cut waste. We are doing | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
it and we are ahead of plans. Soy can tell you, the next year we will | :09:22. | :09:32. | |
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again freeze the council tax. When so many bills are going up, council | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
tax can be the one bill that doesn't. That is help for families, | :09:39. | :09:45. | |
so together, we ride out that storm. I don't pretend to you, that these | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
are not difficult days, and that there are no difficult days ahead, | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
but together we will ride out the storm, and together, we will move | :09:53. | :10:03. | |
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into the calmer, brighter seas beyond. Thank you. APPLAUSE. George | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
Osborne. The Chancellor's speech was greeted with a short luke warm | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
standing ovation. It is not that the party faithful here don't like | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
him or what he had to say, they do. But they know that the future of | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
their Government depends on him getting it right. And that makes | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
them apprehensive. Chancellor didn't give many details about the | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
most policy announcement, the easing up of credit for smaller | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
businesses. So I asked Treasury minister Justine Greening what it | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
entailed. It means channelling more money through to small and medium | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
size companies who at the moment are finding far harder than big | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
companies for example to access capital to invest in their | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
businesses. I understand the problem, what is the policy | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
mechanism by which you will do that? Nick explained... I want you | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
to explain. He has just like me a journalist you the minister, what | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
will you do? There are a number of different ways we can make sure | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
that gets through to companies. We can issue bonds, for example, we | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
can purchase private sector assets spwhr. What do you mean issue | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
bonds? At the moment in the States there is a very vibrant market in | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
this area, where you see not just big companies as we see here, who | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
are able to sell bonds into the market and have them trade in a | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
secondary market, that doesn't happen so much in the UK, so what | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
we want do is go beyond simply the quantitative easing if you like | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
that, the Bank of England is doing but to have some of that perhapss | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
more targeted, so we are look a different ways. I know that. Give | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
me a policy that follows the principle? Well, we will be setting | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
those out over the coming months. But you must have some options. | :11:52. | :11:59. | |
they can... What I am trying to do. We can actively, actively put bonds | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
out there ourselves. But the Government would put bonds out? | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
Underwrite other debts that companies... There is a different | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
way we can do this. So this is very interesting, so the Government | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
would issue bonds, the Government issues a lot of bonds at the moment, | :12:13. | :12:18. | |
they are painly being bought by the Bank of England if you go back to | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
printing money but the Government would issue bonds more bonds so it | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
would add to Government borrowing. No. It wouldn't? The assets you | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
would be purchasing are liquid ones so it wouldn't be part... You are | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
still borrowing to produce money. No What would you do with the | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
money? We already, Government is issuing guilts as part and parcel. | :12:40. | :12:44. | |
I knee minister, what would do you with the bonds the help small | :12:44. | :12:51. | |
businesss?. At the moment if you an SME you will probably so go do a | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
High Street bank to borrow. We are saying working at a Government | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
alongside the Bank of England, we will create new channels by which | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
small and medium companies can go more to the market and perhaps in | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
part from Government too to be able to accessory quidty. In what way | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
would you act to help small businesses get money? Well, as I | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
have been saying, it can take the form of under writing. Providing | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
guarantees in a way we don't do at the moment. So there would be, if I | :13:21. | :13:28. | |
was a small business and I wanted to borrow money from the bank or | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
where ever. You would guarantee that debt? That is one of the | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
options that we have got to be able to deliver this mechanism. Another | :13:35. | :13:41. | |
one... Would you, would that be uncovered debt or would you ask for | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
something to cover the state guarantee? Would I have to put | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
something up? You are getting an asset in return in relation to what | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
it is secured on, but the bottom line it is liquid so it wouldn't be | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
part of our debt. The other thing I would say, is the other part is | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
about creating a longer term secondary market. If you are a big | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
company in the UK you can already issue bonds. You have said that | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
minister. The point I am making is important. The big companies don't | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
have to issue bonds because they are sitting on a massive cash pile. | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
As the Chancellor said that is not tissue and we have had the director | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
general of the CBI in the studio admitting that companies are awash | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
with money they are not investing. What I am trying to get to, and I | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
will let you answer and stop interrupting you, is how credit | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
easing in your mind will help small businesses and what you intend to | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
do. It will mean they don't just have to rely on high street banks | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
to provide them with cash. What will you do? We are developing | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
different way, one is under-- underwriting. What is going out | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
with the Bank of England to see that quantitative easing going to | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
businesses, more directly than it does at the moment, those plans are | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
worked up over the,coming week, George will make more of a | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
statement at the November autumn statement. But it is good news for | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
the businesses, at the moment if you a big company, you can go out | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
to the mark, you can trade your debt in a secondary market. That is | :15:07. | :15:16. | |
just not possible for small and Justine Greening. The Treasury | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
later briefed that the scheme would involve smaller companies creating | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
bonds which the Government would then buy, creating a new stream of | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
revenue at a time when the banks aren't lending. But since small | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
companies in this doesn't doesn't don't issue bonds the Treasury | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
warned it would be months before such a scream could be implemented. | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
-- scheme. Iain Duncan Smith is a conference darling these days, | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
which is more than can be said when he was leader of this party. And | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
there was nothing quiet man about his attacks on Labour's welfare | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
record. Here are highlights from his speech. | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
At a time when the British public are having to tighten their belts | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
because of our difficult economy, and the European Commission comes | :16:01. | :16:07. | |
knocking on my door to order me to open up the benefits system to | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
benefit tourists and pay them benefits as and when they arrive | :16:10. | :16:17. | |
regardless of whether they work, I have a very simple answer for them: | :16:17. | :16:27. | |
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No, no, no. APPLAUSE. Because as we gather here in | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
Manchester, all of us should be reminded that not far from these | :16:40. | :16:46. | |
buildings we are in now were streets under siege just two months | :16:46. | :16:56. | |
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ago. We saw the best and the worst of Britain. At night, a violent | :16:56. | :17:03. | |
minority intent on crime. By morning, the majority clearing up, | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
helping with each other in their communities, and leading the | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
fightback. We should recognise there is a depressing and a | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
familiar context to what we saw. That is the steady rise of an | :17:16. | :17:23. | |
underclass in Britain. A group too often characterised by chaos and | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
dysfunctionality and governed by a perverse set of values. The last | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
Government left us with a welfare system which treated symptoms, not | :17:33. | :17:39. | |
causes. And to each person in a sense it said, you're financially | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
better off out of work, you're better off if you play the system, | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
and if you are bringing up children, you are better off apart. What kind | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
of message was that to Britain? This brings me really to one of the | :17:54. | :18:01. | |
most important issues facing our country, the role of the family. | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
Now this isn't about Government interfering or finger-wagging in | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
family life, it's about Government recognising that stable families, | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
stable two-parent families, are vital for the creation of a strong | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
society. And that is why I intend our welfare reforms that I have | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
already laid out, that these welfare reforms make an impact on | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
the couple penalty where it matters most, amongst families on the | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
lowest incomes. And further more, remember the Prime Minister has | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
made it clear that in this parliament the Government will | :18:39. | :18:47. | |
recognise marriage in the tax system, that is a promise. APPLAUSE. | :18:47. | :18:54. | |
But the riots really, when we reflect back, the riots were a | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
wake-up call. On street gangs, as well. What all this showed us is | :18:59. | :19:07. | |
that a strategy of containment is not an option any more. And that is | :19:07. | :19:15. | |
why I speak of the urgency of change and ask us all here to | :19:15. | :19:24. | |
fulfil our historic role. To put our heads and our hearts in tandem, | :19:24. | :19:31. | |
and become social reformers once again. The riots provided a moment | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
of deep clarity for us all, an opportunity, a reminder that a | :19:37. | :19:44. | |
strong economy also requires a strong social settlement, with | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
stable families ready to play a productive role in their | :19:49. | :19:56. | |
communities. Our task is to achieve this rebalancing of society, | :19:56. | :20:02. | |
restoring our economy must go hand in hand with restoring society. | :20:02. | :20:07. | |
Iain Duncan Smith. David Cameron began the week apologising to two | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
female MPs for something he had said to them in the House of | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
Commons. I asked the welfare Minister Chris Grayling if it | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
wouldn't be more appropriate for the Prime Minister to apologise to | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
women for having the highest rate of female unemployment since 1996. | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
What women would want us to do is set out ways to tackle that problem. | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
18 months ago we inherited some of the most difficult economic | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
circumstances and financial circumstances any Government has | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
ever taken over. What we have also had since then is the emergence of | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
a eurozone financial crisis on a scale nobody had really anticipated, | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
I think. There are huge economic storm clouds around and we are not | :20:46. | :20:52. | |
immune to that. Why apologise to a -- for a passing remark and in the | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
apologise to the women of Britain who have the highest unemployment | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
since there was last a Tory Government? What I would be saying | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
and I think he would be saying to the women of Britain is we are | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
trying to sort that problem out. We are not going to apologise... | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
become the highest level under you. It wasn't the highest level in | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
April of 2010. Unemployment in overall terms is today a little | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
lower than it was six months ago and what we have seen in the labour | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
market the last few months is ups and downs. The last quarterly | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
figures a big step in the wrong direction. The previous two | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
quarters were steps in the right direction. What we have had over | :21:27. | :21:35. | |
the past 12 months in overall terms unemployment flatlining. We have | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
had an increase in the number of jobs. So we have had a mixed | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
picture. My concern is to make sure we pursue policy that is will keep | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
unemployment on a downward curve even in difficult times | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
economically. If he wants to apologise to women, if your | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
Government wants to do that, would it not make more sense it apologise | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
to women for scrapping child benefit among those in the 40% tax | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
bracket? What we would say to anyone affected by the changes, | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
it's not just women in the tax bracket who might lose child | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
benefit in a couple of years, all of us would rather not have come | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
into Government to have to take tough decisions like these. All of | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
us regret having to take decisions of this kind. But we are not the | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
one who is created the biggest financial deficit in our peace-time | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
history. We are dealing with the mess that was created under the | :22:22. | :22:24. | |
previous Government and doing so in some of the most difficult economic | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
circumstances in living memory. understand that. But if you are in | :22:27. | :22:32. | |
the mood to apologise for women, shouldn't you apologise for the tax | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
credit cuts and the higher child care costs which mean it's less | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
economic for women to find jobs? What we have actually done with tax | :22:40. | :22:46. | |
credits is whilst we have taken away tax credits from those on 40 | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
or 50,000 a year, we increased tax credit support for people at the | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
bottom end of the scale. We know that there are tough decisions to | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
take. We know they're going to affect women and men alike, but we | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
are trying to make sure we do what we can to protect the poorest and | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
most vulnerable in our society. Either through targeted financial | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
support, or through some of the measures we discussed this morning | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
to help people break out of a cycle of poverty. Do you think it would | :23:10. | :23:19. | |
be worth apologising to women for having more men from a single | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
Oxford college than women in the cabinet, is that something to | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
apologise for? When we have such a good inhad flow of new -- intphroed | :23:26. | :23:32. | |
of new women -- a inflow of women MPs. You have fewer women in the | :23:32. | :23:36. | |
cabinet than one from one Oxford college? It's very much a regret. | :23:36. | :23:41. | |
Isn't that something to apologise for? We have not got more women in | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
the parliament party but we have taken a big step to rectify that. | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
In the last election we had one of the biggest of women intake | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
Conservative MPs we have ever had. Many of them making a good impact | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
in parliament and will go on to Ministerial ranks. We recognise we | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
have a problem but one of the things David Cameron did was start | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
to sort that out. Chris Grayling. Now, as night follows day, there's | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
one thing you can be sure about at a Tory Party conference, that here | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
in the bars and on the fringes they'll be talking about Europe. It | :24:13. | :24:18. | |
really wouldn't be a Conservative conference if they didn't. We sent | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
out our Adam Fleming with his mood box to get the gossip. | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
We have a new conference which means a new set of balls, blue, of | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
course, and we have a true blue question for del tkpwats on the | :24:29. | :24:36. | |
issue of Europe -- delegates. In or out? It's very simple. Out. Why is | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
that? We would save �48 million a day and the country would be a | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
better place. Let's stay in Europe, for now. OK. I tend to agree it | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
should be economical, not political. So, I would go in for now. | :24:51. | :24:56. | |
should be in, but there should be a repatriation of powers like William | :24:56. | :25:03. | |
Hague has suggested. Europe, in or out? Not a hesitation, why is that? | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
I felt that we were better off with the Commonwealth and looking after | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
our own interests and we should go back to doing that and working with | :25:11. | :25:15. | |
the rest of the world, rather than Europe, which is dragging us down | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
and taking our resources from where we want to spend them. | :25:18. | :25:26. | |
Norwegians just had one word for it, nay. You must be relieved that the | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
inbox has a lot of balls in it? I have seen more carefully | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
controlled assess ments of public opinion, that's in our national | :25:34. | :25:44. | |
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Why do you say in? Because I think it's important for social and | :25:51. | :26:01. | |
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economic integration but I don't Why is that? My father was Swiss, | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
so he was European, all right not in the European Union, but I think | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
we would be completely mad to come out of Europe. 200 years from now | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
we would be a banana Republic on the edge. We want a referendum, we | :26:22. | :26:30. | |
would vote out. There we go. Dr Fox, would you like to vote in our poll | :26:30. | :26:36. | |
for the Daily Politics? Grab a ball, pop is in the slot. It's about | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
Europe, one of your pet topics. I must admit his bodyguards looked | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
scary, I didn't want to push him too much. Would you like to vote in | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
our special machine? What is that about? Europe, in or out? He just | :26:51. | :26:58. | |
laughed! They're like hot cakes. Europe, in | :26:58. | :27:08. | |
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or out? Put your ball where your Who put their ball in the middle? | :27:18. | :27:26. | |
APPLAUSE. You are the only in, in a gang of outies, what is that like? | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
I thought were talking about belly buttons. That Republics -- | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
represents your party. They're early days in conference, I am sure | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
people who make the decisions the Prime Minister has set out our | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
decision clearly on our relationship with with Europe, has | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
it right. There are no balls left. Let's see which argument has won. | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
The majority of people want Britain to leave. They voted for out, it's | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
interesting because the leadership of the party would much prefer they | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
put their balls in the inbox. That's it for now from Manchester. | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
On the day George Osborne staked all on his current economic | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
strategy coming right without further stimulus and coming right | :28:10. | :28:16. | |
in plenty of time for the next election. It is general hepbgs | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
aprethat he can -- apprehension that he can meet that deadline that | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
perhaps explains why this has been, so far, a somewhat muted conference. | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
Tomorrow's conference highlights include the Home Secretary, Theresa | :28:28. | :28:33. | |
May, the just Secretary, Ken Clarke, -- Justice Secretary, Ken Clarke | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
and the mayor of bond, Boris Johnson -- Mayor of London, Boris | :28:36. | :28:40. |