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Evening all. Welcome to our final conference round-up with the Lib

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Dems here in Birmingham where an unrepentant Nick Clegg told his

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party that it had been in the national interest to join with the

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Tories in forming a coalition, that there was no alternative to budget

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deficit reduction, that Labour couldn't be trusted on the economy

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and that if the Tories thought they could get out of the European Human

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Rights Act, they better think again. Here are the highlights. This party,

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the Liberal Democrats, we have now been in Government for 500 days.

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Not easy, is it? None of us thought it would be a walk in the park. But

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I suspect none of us predicted just how tough it would turn out to be.

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We have lost support. We have lost seats. We lost a referendum. We

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proved something about ourselves last year when we faced a historic

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choice, whether or not to enter Government in coalition with the

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Conservatives. Now the easy thing would have been to sit on the

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opposition benches, throwing rocks at the Government as it tried to

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get control of the public finances. It might even in the short run have

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been more popular. But it wouldn't have been right. At that moment

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Britain needed a strong Government. Burying your "head in the sand",

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that is not liberal. Saddling our children with the nation's debt,

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that's not fair. Labour says the Government is going too far too

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fast. I say Labour would have offered too little too late.

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APPLAUSE Imagine, for a moment, if Ed Miliband and Ed Balls had still

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been in power, Gordon Brown's backroom boys, when Labour was

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failing to balance the books, failing to regulate the financial

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markets and failing to take on the banks. The two Eds, behind-the-

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scenes lurking in the shadows, always plotting, always scheming,

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never taking responsibility. At this time of crisis, what Britain

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needs is real leadership. This is no time for the backroom boys.

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APPLAUSE Labour's economy was based on bad debt and false hope. Labour

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got us into this mess. They are clueless about how to get us out.

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Another term of Labour would have been a disaster for our economy. So

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don't for a moment let Labour get away with it, don't forget the

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chaos, the fear of 2008 and never ever trust Labour again with the

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economy. APPLAUSE Government has also brought

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difficult decisions. Of course, the most heart-wrenching for me, for

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all of us, was on university funding. Like all of you, I saw the

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anger, I understand it. I felt it. I have learnt from it. I know how

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much damage this has done to us as a party. By far, the most painful

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part of our transition, from the easy promises of opposition to the

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invidious choices of Government, the simple truth is that the

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Conservatives and Labour were both set on increasing fees. In those

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circumstances, we did the best thing we could. Working tirelessly

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to ensure anyone who wants to go to university can. Freeing part-time

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students from upfront fees for the first time, ensuring fairer

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repayments for all graduates. But we failed to properly explain those

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dilemmas. Right now, of course, our biggest concern is the economy. The

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recovery is fragile, every worker, every family knows that. There is a

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long hard road ahead. Just in the last few days alone, we have seen a

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financial storm in the eurozone, rising unemployment, falling stock

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markets. So we were right to pull the economy back from the brink.

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Because, as Liberal Democrats, we act for the whole nation. In our

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long, proud, liberal history, we have never, never served the media

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moguls, the union barons, or the bankers. We do not serve and we

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will never serve vested interests. Of all the claims Ed Miliband has

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made, the most risible is that his party is the enemy of vested

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interest. I mean, give me a break. LAUGHTER While we were campaigning,

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for change in the banking system, they were on their prawn cocktail

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offensive in the City. While we have led the charge against the

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media barons, Labour has cowered before them for decades. We should

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fix it fast. APPLAUSE In a coalition, we have two kinds of

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power - the power to hold our coalition partners back and the

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power to move the Government forwards. So we can keep the

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Government to a liberal path, anchor the Government in the centre

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ground. We were absolutely right to stop the NHS Bill in its tracks, to

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ensure change on our terms, no arbitrary deadlines, no back door

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privatisation, no threat to the basic principles at the heart of

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our NHS. We are right to stand up for civil liberties, no retreat to

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the liberal populism of the Labour years. We are right to keep

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insisting on a fair tax system, asking the most of the people who

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have the most. And we will always defend human rights at home as well

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as abroad. APPLAUSE The European Convention on Human Rights and the

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Human Rights Act are not, as some would have you believe, foreign

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impositions. These are British rights, drafted by British lawyers,

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forged in the aftermath of the atrocities of the Second World War,

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fought for by Winston Churchill, so let me say something, really clear,

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about the Human Rights Act. In fact, I will do it in words of one sill

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billion. It is -- sylaable. It is Now, this summer, this summer, we

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saw the consequences of a society in which some people feel they have

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no stake at all. Nobody could be failed to be horrified by what we

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saw during the riots. These weren't organised campaigns for change.

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They were outbursts of greed. I will never forget the woman I met

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in Tottenham who told me the clothes she stood in were the only

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possessions she had left in the whole world after her home was

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torched. The rioters are not the face of Britain's young people.

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APPLAUSE The vast majority of our young people are good, decent and

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doing the best they can. Don't condemn all of them because of the

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actions of a few. APPLAUSE Do you know what really struck me? It was

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how so many of those who did join the riots seemed to have nothing to

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lose. It was about what they could get here and now, not what lies in

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front of them, tomorrow, and in the years ahead, as if their own future

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had little value. Too many of these young people had simply fallen

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through the cracks. So, today, I am launching a new scheme to help the

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children who need it most in the summer before they start secondary

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school. A two-week summer school helping them to catch up in maths

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and English and getting them ready for the challenges ahead. Because

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we know this is a time when too many children lose their way. So

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this is a �50 million investment to help them along the right path.

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APPLAUSE So hold your heads up. Look our critics squarely in the

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eye. This country would be in deep trouble today if we hadn't gone

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into Government last year. And Britain will be a fairer nation

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tomorrow because we are in Government today. Never apologise

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for the difficult things we are having to do. We are serving a

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great country at a time of great need. There are no short cuts, but

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we won't flinch. Our values are strong, our instincts are good.

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Reason, not prejudice, compassion, not greed, hope, not fear. APPLAUSE

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Britain is our home. We will make it safe and strong. These are our

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children. We will tear down every barrier they face and this is our

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future. We start building it today. Nick Clegg. There was no mention of

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any further economic stimulus in his speech, something Vince Cable

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seems to have been pushing for. So as the applause for his leader died

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down, I asked the Business Secretary if he had lost the

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stimulus argument. Absolutely not. I spoke on Monday about the need

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for stability and financial stability and sticking with our

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deficit reduction commitments, but also for stimulating growth. This

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is partly about some of the longer term measures we are doing to

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attract inward investment, apprenticeship training and

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technology and also some of the things that can happen, monetary

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policy is one way. The kind of modest support for infrastructure

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that Danny Alexander... You called for a new deal-style stimulus?

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set out a whole series of measures about how the Government could

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encourage growth without undermining or sacrificing...

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deal-style - a new deal-style stimulus means a substantial new

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deal, huge increase in Government investment. You are not going to

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get that? I didn't use the phrase "new deal". Somebody else used it.

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I was very careful... It was not very... I was careful in what I

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argued. We need to have as much commitment as we can to investment

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in the economy, Government money can leverage in a substantial

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amount of private capital, the sort of thing we are doing with the

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green investment bank. We must not compromise our public expenditure

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commitments. Do you accept there cannot be a substantial amount of

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new capital investment without breaching your budget targets and

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spending limits? We are dealing with - we have a series... Do you

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accept that? We are having to stick to those commitments. We are

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dealing with a moving target. As far as capital expenditure is

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concerned, the Government has increased it. It was savaged under

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the outgoing Government. We have increased it. I plays an important

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role in priming private sector investment. Danny Alexander has put

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an additional commitment to that Your leader went on about social

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mobility including cleaning up inturnships. That's a way privilege

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people can get a leg up. They are often not paid they depend on

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contact. From your website I have a list of job for interns terns all

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of which are offering unpaid internships. Why don't you clean up

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your own house first? Unpaid internships can be valuable work

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experience. They can have the negative results you described. I

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and many other other people in public life have given - We know

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they are valuable. If you are a bright boy or girl from Birmingham,

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just coming out of university, from an ordinary working-class family,

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how could you afford to take an internship for the Liberal

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Democrats when it is unpaid? We - we are not going to scrap

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internships simply because - the major problems of social mobility

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have to be overcome in a variety of ways, helping people get through

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university. Internships are a valuable form of training. Keeping

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them will form a useful service itself. You said you would do

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something dramatic to kerb executive pay. You ended up only

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consulting. We started. Since you control the pay of the Royal Bank

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of Scotland, why don't you do something about their pay? Well, we

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talk about Mr Hestor. All of them? He has a long-term contract. The

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Government don't want to be in a position of directly managing every

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executive decision within the banks that are partly state opened owned.

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That is right. Even though you think bankers are paid too much,

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you can do nothing about the banks that you own? Well, we can do. One

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of the - Why don't you? One of the elements of the agreement was

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getting acceptance from the banks, including the state-owned banks

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they would exercise moderation in their pay. In your view, have they?

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They are still getting millions of pounds? Indeed. That is clearly an

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issue we have to work on. Lib Dem leaders have been adamant economic

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policy is set in stone. That the budget deficit has to be cut. That

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is an end to it. What do ordinary Lib Dem members make of their

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leader's unstinting support for Plan A. We sent Adam Fleming to

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find out. This conference is taking place against a back drop of grim

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news about the economy. The most recent piece being the IMF

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downgrading its forecast for Britain's growth next year. Do Lib

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Dem delegates think they should stick to Plan A or is it time for

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Plan B? It's difficult with. This we don't know whether the plan is

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working or not lch is no Plan B. would like to put it in Plan B I

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can't see a credible coherent alternative. I have to go Plan A,

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against my best wishes. You have gone for Plan A, why is that?

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difficult. It's slowly moving in the right direction. I think we

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have to stick with it. If we change direction it will undermine the

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markets. Time for "plan B". Why do you say that? Plan A is affecting

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the low paid, the under privileged only. We now need to speed up the

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tackling of the rich. One thing you can say about the conversation, it

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does hurt. Sometimes the cuts aren't fair they do sort the

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economy out to an extent. It's a crude way of judging the economic

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policy. OK? I wouldn't take part of that because I'm a Plan A plus

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person. Your menu choice - I'm not trying to be difficult. OK. If you

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were Michael Cibg I would give the same answer. Your menu choice needs

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to be expanded, it's never that simple. As long as you you choose

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the sample correctly this is the method, but with a flasher box, the

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one we used to predict the general election. Nothing about the

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Metology. A seal of approval from the experts. Plan B at the moment.

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Vince Cable it's right up your street today Plan A or Plan B on

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the economy? No. Maybe he doesn't have a view. I've handed over loads

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of balls. Let's see who is in the lead. It's Plan A by a mile much

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must say a lot of people have said they are voting for Plan A plus.

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Vince Cable, do you want to pick up one of the balls? Confident Plan A

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is still working? Eem' a Plan A person, not with any joy. None of

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us know how it will pan out over the next year. The Lib Dems I'm

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more into the Plan B. They are singing from the same hymn sheet.

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Most are in favour of Plan A, sticking the course on the economy.

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Who also man who like Plan A are Danny Alexander and David Laws, the

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current and former Treasury Chief Secretaries. I asked Danny

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Alexander if Vince Cable had been pressing him for more capital

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spending. How do we make sure the capital spending we have set aside,

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we we pry oror advertised on the best for the economy, how that

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happens on schedule. There is a problem within government. Things

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get delayed. We can't afford for that to happen. The second thing,

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is we use our spending more effectively to help the private

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sector to bring forward development and investment? The thing I

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announced on Sunday was a fund aimed at bits of local

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infrastructure unlock dovement sites. We are committed to sticking

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to the spending plans we have set out. That is so important to our

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nation's financial and economic credibility. It's a moving around

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of the deckchairs not actually adding to the number of deckchairs?

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I'm not sure I want to pursue the deckchairs - It's in the context of

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the huge amount of work that is going on within government to

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identify things we can do to help with economic growth. I would argue

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our deficit reduction plan is the foundation for growth. You can't

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have one without the other. Many things on deregulation, on the

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planning system and investment in schools through apprenticeships are

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there to lift the productive (inaudible) of our economy. Should

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the Bank of England go in for more quantitative easing? Provided we

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hold course on the deficit reduction plan, which is what we

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are going to do, if the economy remains weak weaker than we would

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like, because of the international pressures, then the Bank of England

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will be in a position to consider further quantitative easing and

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different types of quantitative easing, particularly as I think we

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know it's highly like that the uncomfortably high inflation we

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have had this year is likely to come back down next year because

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the increases in food and energy price also not feed through again.

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OK. He can't comment on this, but you can. You are a backbencher. Is

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it - is it not inevitable that given that Greece's public debt is

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heading for 200% of its GDP and the economy is declining by 6%, that

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Greece defaults as night follows day? I think that default is not

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the word I would use. Use what word you like. The words I would use are

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these, the European governments, particularly the euro-zone

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governments, need to come together with the Greek government to do two

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things. To have a serious strategy for deficit reduction in Greece. To

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look at whether the debts they've got, which are very difficult to

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manage, can in some way be rescheduled to make them bearable.

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You can answer, this I'm not sure you will. Are we not, when we look

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at what is happening in the money markets, for the financial system

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to work, banks need to borrow. They borrow in the wholesale market they

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lend to us. At the moment that is drying up in exactly the same way

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as it did before the collapse of Lehman Brothers. Are we not on the

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brink of - and the banks are not able to earn because they have

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things like Greek debt on their balance sheets. Are we not

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seriously on the brink of another major financial meltdown?

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wouldn't necessarily make those parallels myself. There is a lot of

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turbulence in the markets and uncertainty. That is fuelled in

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large part by doubts about the ability of politicians in many

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parts of the world to get to grips with the problems they have. Many

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people look at the United States and the Congress and the President

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not being able to agree. Would you like your old job back? No. I think

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Danny is doing too good a job. I don't think I have been missed.

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When will we see you back in the government? Who knows. I'm a strong

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supporter of Nick and the coalition. I think they miss you? I will do

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what I can it support them. We have good ministers. What about Business

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Secretary? Sorry. If you were Business Secretary you would be

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more on message than the current one. Despite of your mischief

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making attempts. We have a very good Chief Secretary stpwhrfplt two

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for the price of one, even in these tough times. It wouldn't be a party

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conference without miss chiefious journalists lurk around every

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corner waiting for the politicians to slippup. We asked Quentin Letts

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to cast a wry glance back at the week's proceed, The Liberal

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Democrats could have their conference confident they would

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never get near a ministerial limousine. Nowadays they are in

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Government. Don't worry, that hasn't stopped them much they have

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been complaining about the Government that they helped to

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create. Take this for some Tory bashing. Divorce is inevitable. I

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took the liberty of seeking legal advice about how we stand in the

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event of a break-up. There is good news, there is bad news. The good

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news, we might get half of Ashcroft's money. Bad news, we have

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to have Pickles at the weekend. Energy Secretary, Chris Huhne, was

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determined not to be out done. danger, if you don't compromise, is

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now clear. From America. There the markets looked over the brink when

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the mad cap Republican right in Congress would not compromise with

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the President. Let that be a warning to the Conservative right

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here. We need no tea party tendency in Britain. Lib Dem conferences

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have been docile affairs. Look at it, it's not exactly Nuremberg, is

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it? Nick Clegg thought he had them well under control. Does anybody

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want to ask a supplementary on that or... Heavens what docility. Like

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North Korean conference meeting. Supporting the Lib Dems is like

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support supporting a lower league football club. You cheer them on

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whatever the results. Just as they have clapped along

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enthuse@astically when others have attacked it. Where are they all?

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Some rotten so-and-sos reckon the Lib Dems are a bunch of comedians.

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Teeth teeth teeth proved them wrong. I thought I wouldn't keep you for

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too long tonight much I want it get back to my hotel room to watch

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Strictly. I heard they have Peter Hain booked for the next series.

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He's doing the tango or has he been tangoed. Rupert Murdoch is on for

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the series after. He has been out shopping with Andy Coulson already.

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They bought him a pair of tap shoes. Living dangerously. But they are

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coming back to George Osborne. I heard he is quite keen to get on

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the show as well. He wants to do a line dance. The Lib Dems have been

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a party with a slaigtly split personality between the old SDP and

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the old liberals that is continuing with the those happy to be in

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government and those who are resentful of the idea. This has

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been a week when there has been an awful lot happening abroad. I'm not

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sure that anything that has happened here in Birmingham has

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really shaken the world. Oh, well, I'm off to Liverpool. Quentin Letts.

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That's it from the Liberal Democrat conference of 2011. A few months

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ago Nick Clegg might have pt expected a lynch mob here in

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Birmingham. Instead, he consolidated his position and

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convinced us sometimes sceptical party that they had to stick with

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the coalition. That a loveless marriage was better than no

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marriage at all. For him and that party, this conference was a

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success. This weekend we're off to Liverpool where Labour gathers for

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it is first full conference since Ed Miliband became leader. Before

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