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Good evening, welcome to the last day of the Labour Party Conference

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in Brighton. The conference is over and the members are heading home

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with what they think our policies they can sell on the doorstep.

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Harriet Harman finished the week off in traditional fashion with a couple

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Harriet Harman finished the week off of bad jokes. Ed Miliband face

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delegates in a question and answer session. Doreen Lawrence, received a

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standing ovation as a guest speaker. And full speed ahead or reverse

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gear? What is Labour's position on HS2?

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After Ed Miliband's speech yesterday, in which he set out his

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ambitious plans to freeze energy prices, today he faced is party

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members in a question and answer session. Not all the questions were

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hostile. We need the Burnham plan for health and social care. I am

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behind his idea, which he talked about. I said yesterday, we have got

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to integrate mental health, social care and unless we do it we will not

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deal with the resource crunch we have in the health service. It is

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not just the right thing to do, it is to make us spend the money we

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spend on the health service wisely. You have talked about the green

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economy and challenging energy prices. What will you do about

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challenging where the energy is coming from? What is your opinion on

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fracking? What are the environmental policies around the fact we are

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missing 2015 targets the moment? On this point of how we meet the energy

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needs of the country, we meet them with what is available. Renewable is

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important. Nuclear is important. When George Osborne is talking about

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fracking as being a panacea, he is misguided. You have to meet concerns

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but the notion it will solve the energy problems and you don't have

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to go green is nonsense. My stepfather has carers everyday to

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get him up and washed. Unison represents many thousands of care

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workers. But it has become clear they are struggling with the 15

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minute appointments and they are not being allowed any travelling time.

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What will Labour do to tackle the crisis of social care? Caring is one

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of the most important jobs in our society. But we give it the least

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regard in terms of wages, conditions. We have to change that,

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and I am determined we do. Will you pledge the government will eliminate

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domestic violence, eliminate rape and violence to girls in the UK.

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domestic violence, eliminate rape Will your government be a feminist

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one? My two boys, when they grow up, I don't want them growing up with

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many of the images and portrayals we have of the role of young women and

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men in our society. What Yvette Cooper said in our conference about

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sex education is a core part. Teaching youngsters about what it

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means to be a man and a woman in our society. It is thought to what needs

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to be done. In light of the fact LGBT people in Russia are being

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treated as second-class citizens, what would a Labour government do to

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help LGBT people in Russia and elsewhere? It is one of the most

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proudest achievements of this movement in the last three years, we

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are the people who have forced equal marriage through the House of

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Commons and the House of Lords. But the point you make about the wider

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challenge is totally right. The international challenge. Many of us

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have been shocked about some of the things happening in Russia around

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the law that has been passed. I want to assure you that a battle for the

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LGBT writes internationally is a battle I take seriously and I will

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take incredibly seriously as Prime Minister. How can we overcome the

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politics of divide and rule which has started since your speech by the

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Tories. How can we overcome that and make sure the politics of truth

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prevails in 2015? The wisdom of the British people is something we

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should never under estimate. The wisdom of the British people to

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should never under estimate. The understand how high the stakes are

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and who will fight for them. We have shown this week who we will fight

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for and it is up to all of us over the next 20 months, to go out and

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win that fight. We know who we are fighting for, we know how high the

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stakes are, let's go out and win that fight. Thank you very much.

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Ed Miliband addressing his party. that fight. Thank you very much.

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This afternoon, Doreen Lawrence, the mother of the murdered teenager,

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Stephen Lawrence came to the stage. She is going to become the new

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member of the Labour team in the She is going to become the new

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house of lords. She got a standing ovation before her speech and after.

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It was late on a Friday back in May that I received a message that Ed

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Miliband was trying to get in touch with me. I spent the weekend

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wondering what would he want to talk to me about? You can imagine my

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brain was working overtime. Monday to me about? You can imagine my

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came and I made the call. I was put through to Ed Miliband. Then it

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became clear. He wanted to tell me that he had put my name forward for

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the house of lords. At first, I thought, " it is amazing". Then the

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enormity of it hit me while I was still on the phone. To be honest, I

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was lost for words. I know it must sound strange, and don't get me

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wrong, I was very flattered, but if anyone knows anything about me, it

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would take me time to analyse, way up things before I decide,

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especially when it is something as potent as this. Since it was

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announced I was to become a peer, I have had a lot of people bowing...

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APPLAUSE money from the proceeds of crime,

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change the law to make criminals pay more and prevent them from hiding

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assets. We will drive down Tory waste. They spent £100 million on

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holding November elections, which could have 3000 police on the

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streets. £30 million is going on extra CCTV bureaucracy, hundreds of

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millions on chaotic police procurement they fail to tackle and

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privatised forensics are pushing costs up. We need a long-term vision

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of policing for the future. It needs to make savings, but deliver better

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public services. That is why we have to make savings, but deliver better

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asked Lord Stevens, former Lord Commissioner of the Met to set up a

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commission. With experts from across the world to draw up a radical and

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positive plan for policing in the 21st century. Raising police

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standards, improving diversity in policing, giving neighbourhoods are

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stronger say, saving money to keep police officers on the beat, looking

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at Police and Crime Commissioner 's and accountability. And delivering

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stronger, swifter action when things go wrong. As they did so badly over

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Stephen Lawrence and also as they did so badly over Hillsborough. So

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families never again have to wait over 20 years for truth and justice.

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Yvette Cooper was interviewed by Andrew Neil on the daily politics.

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He began by asking her about the low turnout in the elections for police

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commissioners and asked if Labour would scrap them? We have asked Lord

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Stevens to look at this issue. He is setting out a long-term vision of

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policing, looking at issues around accountability but also looking at

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how you raise policing standards, stronger checks and balances when

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things go wrong, and making sure the stronger checks and balances when

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police can cope with the challenges of the 21st century. He is due to

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report before Christmas and then we will consider what his conclusions

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are. It could advise you it is advisable to scrap the PCC and you

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will follow that advice either way? We will consider his conclusions and

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have a debate in the Labour Party. What we have said previously is we

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oppose the principle of them to start off with because we felt it

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was concentrating too much policing power in one person's hands. We are

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clear reforms will be needed, but we will await John Stephen's advice and

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the expert commission he has gathered which involves people from

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all over the globe. Because we believe in public services, we need

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a reform plan for the future, especially at the time when there is

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a reform plan for the future, less resources around. When the

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coalition started cutting the police service, you were planning to cut it

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as well, but they have cut it by more. You said policing in Britain

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faced a perfect storm. We are halfway through a coalition

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government, crime is at its lowest level for many years, lower than

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under Labour. Cuts have not had an effect, have they? That is not what

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victims think. We have 30,000 fewer crimes being solved since the

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election. We have got fewer cases being referred to prosecution for

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domestic violence or rape. In fact, they have dropped by a third, the

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number of rape cases being referred to the prosecution, even though in

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fact the number of cases reported to the police has gone up. We can seek

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the evidence of victims being let down, more criminals and abusers

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getting away with it. It is a result down, more criminals and abusers

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of there being fewer police officers and others being stretched. Do you

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support the fire brigade strike? We want negotiations to continue, we

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think it is the right approach. It is a difficult situation. If the

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police cannot strike, should fireman also recovered by no strike

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legislation? They have had a long-standing arrangement and we are

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not proposing to change that. long-standing arrangement and we are

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This week, Ed Balls came to this podium and he questioned Labour's

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support for the High Speed Rail link. He said it might not be a good

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idea to spend £50 billion on the project. Alan Fleming went out with

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his balls to show whether it should be full steam ahead.

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The message from Labour this week on HS2 has been mixed. What will

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delegates think about it? Do they want to construct it or cancel?

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Construct. The southern end of the West Coast Main Line is full. I

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don't think it is the right thing. I think we need massive investment in

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railways but not this railway. The issue for me is it part of a wider

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transport strategy or a glamour project just to build between London

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and Manchester? To bring it to Swansea, that should be my dream. I

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will vote to go with HS2. In places like China they have amazing

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networks. If we don't improve ours, we would be left behind in the race

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for infrastructure. £50 billion would be better spent on schools and

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hospitals. It is £50 billion over loads of years, isn't it, about 20

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years? I would still rather spend it on them, but then I live in the

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south. You have plenty of railways, on them, but then I live in the

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any friends in Manchester? I probably won't get any after this.

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It is causing widespread devastation, we are losing homes and

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space in Camden. Do you think Ed Balls wants to cancel it? It sounds

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like he wants to. I think he needs to be reminded it is about capacity,

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about the future and having some vision. Why cancel it? It is not

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going to do anything for the North. I would not build it in the North.

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They are building it so you can save 20 minutes on a train to

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Birmingham. You will be able to move around the country quicker. What he

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meant was his sister lives in Manchester and it would be handy.

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There are some balls escaping. This document is the latest polling on

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HS2. I know your balls are scientific, but this poll might be

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more scientific, showing 60% of Labour voters are against HS2. So

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should we just filmed this bit of paper and go home? Oh dear! That is

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quite a shocking development. I think we will call it a day because

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it is impossible to work it out. It is about half and half, maybe

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slightly more in favour of construction.

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Don't worry, Adam will get his box back together in time for the

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Conservative conference in Manchester next week.

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Although Ed Miliband stood at this podium and got a warm applause, they

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voted overwhelmingly to renationalise the railways and also

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the soon-to-be privatised Royal mail, which isn't Labour policy.

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This is a flavour of those debates. The Royal mail offers an example of

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one nation politics. Whether you live in St Ives or Inverness, you

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can post a letter anywhere in the country for the same tariff. You can

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be certain of a daily collection and there is a standard delivery across

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the country. The next Labour government should renationalise. I

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am very proud partner of a Royal Mail worker. He came home one day

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recently and was quite subdued, not like him. And he said he had

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encountered a distressed elderly lady on his delivery round. She had

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approached him as a trusted postal worker, as a trusted postman. Her

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carer for her husband had not turned up and she could not get him out of

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bed. She called him into her home to do the most personal task, to help

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her husband get up, get washed, get dressed and use the bathroom. That

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is the level of trust the public has in its postal workers. TNT might be

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interested in delivering in Camberwell or acting, but not in

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Aaron. In London, they employ staff on zero hours contracts which means

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they employ more people than they need, so every day people are sent

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home without work. We are going back need, so every day people are sent

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to the 30s. It is completely unacceptable. On the Royal mail

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privatisation, can I see those in favour. Those against. Carried

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unanimously. East Coast is proof a public owned and public accountable

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railway can work. It can generate the funds to put back into the

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railways, to invest in employing more staff to keep the public save,

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invest in new rolling stock and new infrastructure. It has been party

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policy since 2004 to take the railways under state control. Let's

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make sure in 2015 when Ed Miliband walks into Downing Street, it is

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government policy also. Our ideology is the right one and we should not

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be afraid to talk about the ideology of public ownership. Whether it is

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the railways, whether it is the power companies, the water

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companies, gas or electric power companies, it does not matter,

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whether it is telecommunications or the post service, they natural

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monopolies, natural monopolies that should be in public ownership.

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Emergency motion number one on rail. Can I see those in favour, please?

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Those against. Carried unanimously. Today was the chance for Andy

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Burnham to address his party. He said Labour would repeal the

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government's health reforms which he said were leading to the sell-off of

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the NHS. NHS values are Labour values. They are the country's

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values. For 65 years they have served us well. But a new century

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demands new thinking. Care of older people is not what anyone would want

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it to be. So today, we set Labour's new mission, to make it right. This

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conference can Compleat Bevan's vision, unite the NHS with social

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care. Imagine one service looking after the whole person, physical,

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mental and social. The NHS of the 21st-century. A National health and

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care service based on people before profit. What a way to mark the 65th

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anniversary and what a contrast with profit. What a way to mark the 65th

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this government. They have spent all year running it down. And we know

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why, don't we, conference? They are softening it up to sell it off.

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Since April, all NHS services forced out to the market. And look at what

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has happened. Major contracts for NHS work won by Tory donors. Donors

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who bank Road Andrew Lansley when he was planning his health Bill. --

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bankrolled. You can see why, private firms run by people who have donated

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1.5 million to the Tories, winning 1.5 billion in NHS contracts. Who

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gave this Prime Minister permission to sell the NHS to his friends? In

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Cameron's NHS, the competition lawyers call the shots. They call

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integration, " anti-competitive". Have you ever heard anything more

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integration, " anti-competitive". ridiculous than that? The health and

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social care act 2012 has placed the NHS on a fast-track to fragmentation

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and privatisation. It has got to go and it will. In the first Queen 's

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speech of the next Labour government, we will repeal the act.

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The shadow health secretary. The ubiquitous sketch writer, Quentin

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Letts has been following events here, and his verdict is spine

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tingling. Is that the clinics having a dip

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over there? It feels Hallowe'en might have come early because in the

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conference hall behind me, it has been echoing to the ghostly cries of

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spirit passed. Enough to give Ed Mili, the willies. The week has been

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spirit passed. Enough to give Ed dominated by the spectre of Damien

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bride, even though he has been politically deceased tints -- since

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2009. -- Damian McBride. He has returned with tales of treachery in

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the heart of new Labour. It is something I regret. Equally, I don't

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think I was alone in politics, over something I regret. Equally, I don't

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the last decades in some of the ways I operated. I hope one of the

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effects of writing this book is people can see the truth of some of

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these operations laid bare, learn from that and make sure those things

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don't happen again. Ed Miliband has been out this week, but it has felt

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retro. Delegates have been reassured welfare reforms will be exercised.

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That has been bashing of Tory millionaires and Ed Miliband

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breathed life into that old corpse called socialism. Will you bring

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back socialism? That is what we are doing. It says on our party card,

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democratic socialism. It works for all and not just for some. The

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corridors here are full of ancient bogey men including Alastair

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Campbell and Charlie Whelan. And then union red Len McCluskey took

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umbrage because Ed Miliband walked out just as he was about to start

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his speech. I am sorry Ed has left the platform. I know there are those

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fearful of the prospect of a bad line in the Daily Mail. I say to

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them, you will never, ever appease line in the Daily Mail. I say to

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the right wing media. And to try the means you and our party. The Back To

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The Future feel continued with a spot of Carry On Conference.

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Somebody with the distinctly appropriate name of Balls was akin

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to a naughty seaside postcard. It was a Prime Minister and his beach

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towel. On the beach, changing into his swimming trunks, behind the

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Mickey Mouse towel, captured with unflattering pictures spread across

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the national press. I thought for a Prime Minister, it was a

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surprisingly small towel! Conference, let us all agree, after

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the last three years, the sooner Conference, let us all agree, after

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David Cameron throws in the towel, the better. Ed Balls, Labour's very

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own Kenneth Williams. It makes you wonder what will happen next week,

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doesn't it? See you in Manchester. For those who stayed until the

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bitter end, there was the chance to hear the speech from Harriet Harman.

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There were jokes. Labour is the only party for women, and what a contrast

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with the other parties. David party for women, and what a contrast

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Cameron believes women should be seen and not heard - and that is

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when he is thinking about his own cabinet. And as for the UKIP

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when he is thinking about his own conference, where to begin! What can

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you say about the human car crash that is Godfrey Bloom? A man so

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unreconstructed, he makes Jeremy Clarkson lookalike Fabian. But

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Godfrey, all is not lost, you have some time on your hands so I have

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arranged a special emergency session for you at the Harriet Har person

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Institute for political correctness. Godfrey, I will be on hand to give

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you some advanced, one-to-one training and we will start with the

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whisking the Dyson around the back of my fridge. Ed has shown, even

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from opposition, the ability to make change. He stood up against phone

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hacking, he averted David Cameron's rush to war in Syria and has shown

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politics can make a difference. But Ed is also about a new kind of

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politics, and that shines through everything he does. Like when he

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got. Eggert. -- egged. When John Prescott, he got angry. When Ed

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Miliband got hit by eggs, he said, I hope they are free range. That is

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the type of guy he is. That is it that night. Ed Miliband

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and his party leave in good spirits. He has positioned his party as the

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defender of the people against the energy bosses. It gives the energy

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-- party members something to say on the doorstep, but it gives opponents

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something to aim at. The conference road show moves to Manchester next

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week. I will be here next week as usual on BBC Two to give you the

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highlights. But from Brighton, I will leave you with the traditional

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way the Labour Party always ends its will leave you with the traditional

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conference, the singing of The Red Flag.

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