17/09/2016 - Live Fourth Session UKIP Conference

will be participating in thhs next session. Enjoy your tea. We'll see

you in 20 minutes. APPLAUSE

No pressure then. I just wanted to point this out.

I contemplated ace-king for Elton John's song, I'm Still Standing to

be played. And then I thought, I Get Knocked Down, I Get Up Again. I am

honoured to be here. This is the first opportunity I have had to

speak to conference in our historic win in the Welsh assembly elections.

Since are even more historic and just most amazing win of thd

referendum. Can you hear me now I will just reiterate, this is the

first opportunity I have had to speak here at conference since our

historic win in the Welsh assembly elections. I appreciate manx of you

are aware of a little bit of turmoil that has been going on in the

principality, to say the le`st. I was elected as an MEP in 2004. When

I knew I'd won, I turned to my wife and I said, I have just been given a

front row seat to history. APPLAUSE

I didn't realise it was onlx going to take two years. I don't think

anybody did. I have had somd amazing experiences, and some absolttely

wonderful opportunities over these last few years. I started in the UK

12 years ago. I was just a foot soldier, somebody who believed in

the cause, went to my branch meetings, sometimes raised ly

eyebrows at some of the things being said, but realised that ulthmately,

we were all kin and we had the same desire, belief this great n`tion. I

gave up my time, skills and my abilities and somehow over the

years, I rose within Ukip and found myself in an opportunity to really

make a difference for the p`rty in Wales. And I did that utterly

because I believed, wholehe`rtedly, that Wales would vote to le`ve the

EU. I knew it. APPLAUSE

I had much, much better things to be doing with my time, then drhving all

over Wales at my own expensd, for the purpose of setting up branches,

meeting with and supporting people and giving them 100% vision we were

going to do it. I did it because I knew somehow, somehow, we wdre going

to do it. Now, in the 2009 Duropean elections, I was given the huge task

of being the campaign managdr. I had never done anything like thhs

before. I had common sense `nd I realised you had to organisd things

and get people motivated. Dtring that campaign we had about 02

activists during the whole of Wales. 12 people. We would go and leaflets

and campaign in one village, jump in the car and drive 20 miles, do it

again. We hopped all over W`les doing these activities. The

opposition thought we had this huge army that were going out thdre. It

was early days, things were going to improve. I remember watching the

television and the Labour MDP, who didn't win the seat, becausd they

had two prior to this. She was complaining, and because of the

expenses scandal, we couldn't get our activists out there but Ukip

could motivate all of their members. I was like, yes, right!

APPLAUSE I think back to those wonderful

heady days, when certain thhngs happen and you think, wasn't it much

easier and happier. But there we are. In the 2014 campaign, we did

the most amazing thing, we dither came first or second in every single

local region within Wales. Dach of the counties. We came second by only

5400 votes to Labour. We did a phenomenal job. By then we did have

a big army of helpers. Nigel was on the television all the time and I

was able to get quite a lot of television. In the first wedk, I had

more television and radio than John button was able to get as hhs few

years as an MP. We raised the profile and be changed and

challenged what people's perception of Ukip was. We weren't an `rmy of

angry old men, we were an army of decent men and women, who jtst

believed in our country. Th`t's it. Be all and end all. Nothing more to

it. We wanted our children `nd grandchildren to have a fred nation

in the same way we had. APPLAUSE

In the general election campaign, we actually increased our vote. It was

unbelievable, we got more votes in the general election than wd did in

the European Union election, which was our election.

APPLAUSE And again, it was because hd

challenged those perceptions, we let people know and understand, this is

who we are, we are just decdnt, regular people. That is what we did,

that was our aim, our target and that is what we focused on.

Challenging those false perceptions of who we are and what we wdre

standing for. Of course, we don t also was promised the referdndum. I

could see now, there is a lhght at the end of the tunnel and it's not a

train coming towards me, we are going to do this, we are gohng to

win. We had the Welsh assembly elections and despite all of the

internal wranglings and problems we had, we made history, we were the

first party to break into the Welsh assembly. It was a phenomen`l

achievement, it really was. APPLAUSE

I actually have the humilitx to understand that it wasn't bdcause of

me, that I was elected, it was because of Nigel Farage, evdrybody

knows who years, but everybody has an opinion of him... Mind the gap.

Do I get any extra time for this? LAUGHTER.

I think Nigel would say, yot couldn't make it up. There we go. I

have forgotten what I was s`ying! In any case, I am humble. I have

probably got a lot to be hulble about. I realise I got two votes

because of me. My mum and mx wife. Everybody else voted becausd of the

party name and because of Nhgel Farage and because of what he did.

APPLAUSE I must claim a slight bit of, you

know, I did go through the hell of the television debates and `ll of

the cameras, cooking in the kitchen and interviews and all of that kind

of stuff, it was very surre`l and bizarre, let me tell you. Btt we did

it. We did it because we had this voice, we were the only people who

could speak to Conservatives and Labour and Plaid Cymru and `ll the

rest of them, and they were willing to vote for. We did it becatse we

had that presentation to thdm. People would say to me, you know,

you're nothing like what we thought Ukip would be like. And isn't that a

wonderful thing? I think it is. APPLAUSE

Because the only thing they thought we were like, it is because what the

media told them we were likd, and of course it is completely untrue.

APPLAUSE I truly, truly believe in mx

country. I really do. If I didn t, I wouldn't be here right now, I would

be in America, my wife is Alerican, I would be over there, the weather

is better, you can go skiing in the winter. But there is nowherd better

than this land. I have been all over, so I know, hand on he`rt.

There is nobody better than the British people. I was in Amdrica for

three months and I was visiting my sisters, who are over there. When I

came back, the first Flight full of Americans. Second flight, I could

hear at the back of the plane, the Scouse accent. Normally I would

be... No offence. But it was like an angel singing to me, to hear a

British accent after so long. APPLAUSE

It was so lovely to be home. And that is why I got up in the morning

at four o'clock and got in ly car and drove six hours to do a ten

minute radio interview in C`rdiff and then drove the four and a half

hours back again. Because wd have got a message to give. We h`ve a

story to tell and we have a nation that was worth fighting and

sacrificing for. Quite frankly, I cannot tell you how honoured I am to

have been given a role and ` part in this. In the referendum campaign, I

was campaigning in Llandudno because some of you will know because we had

our conference there. I was at the stall and this older gentlelan

walked by and he said, you should know better at your age. And I said,

you don't know how old I am. He turned around and he came b`ck to

have a go. He said, do you know anything at all about Europd? I said

yes, I am an MEP. LAUGHTER.

APPLAUSE He then said, yes, but when was the

last time you went to the Somme I said, I was there yesterday. Then he

realised he wasn't going to win First of all, I was ass to, when I

voted in the referendum, if the BBC could come and video me and fill me

for their news articles. As I was walking in, this lovely, little

Welsh couple came up to me, they were coming out. They stoppdd me and

the gentleman grabbed hold of my hand and held it like this. He said,

I want you to know that I jtst voted to leave the EU.

APPLAUSE I said, thank you very much, but you

didn't do it for me, you did it for the nation, didn't you? He said

well, I am a member of playdd Camry, and I want Wales to leave the United

Kingdom. So I was like, thank you very much. But at that point, I knew

we were going to do it in any case, I had faith we were going to do it.

But the faith turn to knowlddge At that point I knew. If played Camry

are voting for us to leave the EU, we have got this. I was driving to

London, I was invited to be at the hub of everything involving Nigel at

the counter. I was driving down and I was analysing myself. And I said,

I don't feel nervous. I don't feel anxious. I was listening to the

news, thinking about the eldction. I was as calm as a summer's d`y. And I

thought, we have definitely got this. As the results were coming in,

it was the most surreal and wonderful experience. The vdry first

thing I did when I got therd, I was called to do and interview for Irish

TV. As I was doing the interview, there was like an explosion of

journalists running around `nd pointing to their iPods. Thd

journalist interviewing me said Nigel Farage, your leader h`s just

conceded defeat. Do you concede defeat?

I said Wales will vote to ldave the EU and Britain will vote to leave

the EU, wait and see. That hs what happened. It became clear at about

three o'clock that we have definitely done it. Then Nigel and a

few of us went to a quiet house where he just needed to contemplate

and think before he made thhs huge speech before the world medha. I was

in a room with him, there w`s just the two of us. I don't think he was

praying but he could have bden. I said, Nigel, do you realise that you

have just overthrown the Brhtish Government?

APPLAUSE And then I said, the - to boot, the EU as well. And hd looked

up, and said, yes, I have, haven't I? What a man! The word hero is

banded around too liberally in this country. Footballers are not heroes,

they get paid too much to bd heroes. I have but one political hero, and

that is Nigel Farage, a man who .. APPLAUSE A man who I decided very

early on, if I want to be stccessful in politics and get our country

back, get behind Nigel, and that's exactly what I did. I chose that I

would back Nigel, come what may and I was one of his most loyal

lieutenants, certainly in W`les And I now am here to say to you that we

have a new leader, Diane Jales, and I'm so grateful that the melbership

of this party made the corrdct decision and voted for her. APPLAUSE

My message to all of us, at this time in our party's juncturd is very

clear. We get behind our leader and we go

forward and we become the official opposition or we argue and we split

and we think it is about us and we think it is about how much ledia

time I get or whatever the silly things are, and we fail and fade

away into the party... Do you remember that party? Let's get

behind our leader, let's unhte and let's become the official opposition

in Great Britain. APPLAUSE

Ladies and gentlemen, good `fternoon again. I hope you enjoyed dhnner. If

you wouldn't mind taking yotr seats, please.

OK, we are now going to movd on our hour-long motions session. Thank you

to all of you who submitted motions, I had over 50 in the end so we did

what we could to pick out for five that offered variety, and cdrtainly

those that were most popular. Not surprisingly we had many submissions

about regionalisation our -, of our governing body. Hopefully you all

have your meeting cards. Be the jewel is going to take on board what

you said and write a report for the NEC.

# Peter jewel. I want to make one point if I may and it is spdcific to

the motion regarding regionalisation. The NEC met at the

start of this month and it was raised that a debate on

regionalisation hasn't been tabled at previous conferences. Thd NEC

wanted me to give you an assurance that they will take into

consideration all votes on `ll motions today, but particul`rly on

regionalisation, and if it hs supported today, they themsdlves

will set into motion for putting that into place in the future.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to hand you over to Peter. Thank you,

this is quite a complicated process but I will take you through the

basic rules. The party chairman has selected the motions. They will be

considered at the sole discretion of the chairman who has delegated those

powers to me. Because of tile constraints, we will not consider

any amendments to the proposals because otherwise one could take all

day, but it gives a very good indication to the NEC and the powers

that be, your views on thesd different motions. I will rdad each

motion, and the rules are qtite simple. If I can find them, and I

will read them out to you. The proposal of the motion may speak for

three minutes in support of the motion. Two other speakers lay speak

two minutes. One speaker max speak in opposition to the motion for up

to three minutes, and two other speakers may speak for up to two

minutes in opposition to thd motion. Because of time, I will stop you on

the time, as it comes, and hf we can have... If you are going to do it

from here, which is the best place to do it from so we can herd, I will

bring up the proposer and wd will decide on the two people who will

speak from the audience if they put their hands up as we come to them. I

will start with the first one. Base Ukip branches on district councils/

local authorities with posshbilities of Council ward sub branches within

the council area instead of branches based on Parliamentary

constituencies. To win national elections we must first win local

councils. We need and local councillors first before we can hope

to win MPs in significant ntmbers. The proposed new Parliament`ry

boundaries across different local authority boundaries with no

connection to each other and will make fighting local elections

difficult. We fight more eldctions locally and nationally. Loc`l

branches build-up membership support, local knowledge, and get

people elected, which benefht Ukip MP candidates. With branches based

on local authorities in orddr to select Parliamentary candid`tes all

members shall live in a particularly Parliamentary constituency, would be

invited to attend and vote ` one-off special adoption meeting. The

Parliamentary candidates wotld work and coordinate with the different

branches as they would do if elected MP. The proposer is Christine

Forrester. Do we have Christine Forrester? Would you like to come up

to there. The second is Bri`n Forrester, if you would likd to be

one of the people who speak, or perhaps we can take two people who

can speak for the motion, including Brian Forrester. Can I have any

hands, please? That gentlem`n there, can you come up. If anybody else

wants to speak for the motion? No. Against is Stewart Agni... Where is

Stewart? If somebody can just give him a nudge. Three others h`ve also

supported that. Can I have two others who would like to spdak

against the motion from the floor? Just wait down there. Anybody else

against? Right, thank you. Would you like to come and wait there as well.

Christine, would you like to start your three minutes, starting from

now. I'm not really very professional at this. Hang on. Where

do you want me? There? It's a good job you didn't hear that. Rdally, I

didn't write this proposal, I merely saw it outside and I thought it was

a jolly good idea to second this proposal because while experiencing

elections, local and Parlialentary, I have done an awful lot of

canvassing and dealt with an awful lot of people in various

communities. Branches throughout the South of England. And the bhggest

problem with large branches is that elderly people or people who cannot

get on buses etc, are not able to attend branch meetings. It hs very

difficult for them to assimhlate themselves into a Ukip organisation,

so I feel that if we were to divide the branches up, only for sort of

canvassing etc and membershhp organisations, to have smaller

little branches within branches that were able to speak to the chairman

of the whole Parliamentary `rea I have found great difficulty with

elderly people who said thex would love to join Ukip and they follow

everything we do, but they cannot travel. For example, I have just

moved to Wiltshire, and so Wiltshire, it is from local sure all

the way to Wiltshire. Travelling time is across the Salisburx Plain,

which, if you have got a lot of tanks moving can take quite a while.

We have a lot of soldiers and a lot of military people out that way But

elderly people, who really, really are our base for elections, really

want to help and really want to become members, but as soon as I

say, well, you will have to go to Amesbury, that's our headqu`rters so

to speak, no we cannot do that. I cannot join, it is not possible

for me. In elections, if we make smaller sections within a branch for

people to coordinate with pdople that are just joining and to help

them get to know their neighbours. We all here, I cannot do th`t, I

cannot go that far. But if xou make it smaller sections, people can

either do their street, thex get to know their neighbours, it m`kes it a

more personal involvement. H think that's what we need to do, gather

more members and memberships would be the ideal work until we have the

new elections. Be they locally or Parliamentary. It is a real bu that

lots of people are missing out on a wonderful Parliamentary Way of life.

Thank you very much. Who is the first proposer, going to spdak? Can

I have your name please. Two minutes starting from now. Good aftdrnoon

conference. I have had some branches who wrote to me with regards to

this. We have many difficulties fighting local elections with

boundaries crossing over from Parliamentary boundaries. What can

we do about it? Every time there is a local election, and we can all

agree, local elections happdn more often than Parliamentary eldctions,

branches have to communicatd, speak to different branches as to where

the lines will be drawn. We had across branch meeting this week to

discuss next year's county divisions which again split branches. If we

were to have branches on local council district authority wards, it

would be easier. When it coles to the Parliamentary election, all you

have to do is attend the Parliamentary adoption husthngs for

which ever Parliamentary constituency you live in. It is as

simple as it gets. When Ukip decided to change from regional membership

areas to Parliamentary boundaries, it was right for the time, but now

we have grown as a party, pdrhaps we need to look at the structure. It

would be simple for memberships geographically to increase their

membership. When the Parlialentary boundaries change, if you h`ve seen

the proposals, but many branches are going to cease to be, including

deadly, which is one of the biggest branches in Nottinghamshire. It will

be torn up between four othdr Parliamentary boundaries. This

branch, ladies and John Simon will cease to be and it was one of the

very few branches which man`ge to get a full slate of candidates in

the local elections. They whll not be able to do that, if they are not

here to do it. This is the lotion I would like to put forward to the

conference. Thank you for your support. The second supportdr of

this motion. No one. Let's love on then. Against the motion... Thanks.

Good afternoon Ukip. When I read this, I thought it might work in

some areas. However, we havd just heard from the proposer who is

concerned about one of the branches will cease to exist when thdir

constituency is broken apart and the boundaries are read drawn. What this

motion would do is dissolve all existing Ukip branches based on

local government districts. This is going to be difficult for l`rge

parts of the country becausd Parliamentary constituencies are

approximately the same size, or they will be when the outdated boundaries

are withdrawn. In my area, ` Metropolitan Borough called Kirklees

in West Yorkshire, has a population of over 400,000, an area of 150

square miles of steep, ruggdd Pennine train. If he moves to an

all-out election it will be difficult for a branch. There is for

civil parishes in the distrhct as well. I don't think it is going to

work for us and it will cause massive workloads for branch offices

in some areas. It will be h`rder to recruit officers. We have more

ranchers. In our Parliament`ry constituencies, we have thrde, soon

to be four. I would not want to be the chairman of a branch covering

the whole of Kirklees. The hdeal of council ward sub branches is

interesting, but I think thdy would be too small and would put lore

layers between members and the National party. Not only wotld this

motion force branches to manage multiple constituencies, but it also

means constituency branches... If you don't want to lose officers

members and lose votes, ple`se stand up for your branches which xou

already have. Vote against this motion. Thank you very much. Thank

you, Alex. He will speak in support, to be against the motion? If you

just give your name and your branch, it would be helpful. Good afternoon,

conference. My name is Peter Baker. I have been a member of Ukip for 16

years. I have been on a conference committee, East Midlands colmittee

and I am currently treasurer of the Rutland and Melton branch. The

constituency association. Wd have only become that recently, because

up until this spring, we also incorporated Harborough

constituency. We are also involved with annex constituency on the other

side, which is Grantham and Stamford. The reason we do this is

because by having joint meetings, we get a decent number of people

present. There are not enough people in the party to fulfil the hntention

of the motion. In my opinion. Because when you move out of

conurbations into the country, you will find distances prevail. We are

very largely 80 people, not many as old as me, but that is another

story. The thing is, getting people to be active is much more e`sier

when you have a group to work from. Rutland and Melton has 89 mdmbers.

But at our meetings we are very lucky to get two doesn't. It falls

upon the younger people. I have been relegated to driving the car now,

which is better than the le`fleting. 15 seconds. Thank you. I oppose

this, I think this motion would divide the party, and I think we

should be delighted, not division. APPLAUSE

Do we have a second person to speak against it? Right, thereford the

motion is now to the voter. And the conference should decide on firstly,

are they for the motion? Right, let's have four read. What colours

have you got? Red and yellow. Yellow is for, and red is against. Can we

just have the yellow to start with. Can I now have the red. Therefore, I

think the people have spoken against it. They will succeed, yes. The

motion fails. APPLAUSE

Right, the next motion is conference proposes the election of melbers to

the party's governing body, currently the NEC, be changdd from

the existing national procedure to one based on regional

representation. It is proposed by Nigel Challis. It is seconddd by

Alan Blumenthal. Against Ms Stuart Agnew and various others, btt it is

just against, Stuart Agnew. Speaking first is Nigel Challis. Would you

like to come up please? Can I have two people who would like to speak

for it? One here, do we havd another one speaking for it? We havd to have

two. Right, one. And Stuart Agnew, against. Would you like to come up?

Can we have two or the people who would like... Thank you likd to come

up? Anybody else like to spdak? Are you ready? You have thrde

minutes to speak for this motion. I will, to make it simple, whdn it is

15 seconds to go, I will knock like this. Starting from now. Good

afternoon, I have a problem this afternoon, I am against Stu`rt

Agnew, so please clap all you like through my little three minttes and

if I get a yellow card, I whll be very, very happy and I will have a

bigger head than Stewart. The proposal is there should be regional

representation on the National committee. It is a motion I was

asked to put forward to the conference by my regional committee

and following pressure from the membership. It is democracy in

action. I am aware this subject has been discussed in the past `nd

rejected. I don't really know why. I was told by a senior member in my

area that it was because Ukhp wanted to go nationally and not regionally.

I don't know if it is true. In Cornwall we operate a branch system.

It is a very simple branch system. A representative of that branch

attends the county branch mdeting, usually the chairman. If thd

chairman is not available, someone else is sent. In that way, `ll the

views of Cornwall are represented. We have six branches represdnting

the six constituencies. Thex are all different. What would the mdmbers

think if three or four membdrs on a county committee came from ` certain

part of Cornwall. We are all different, some are into fishing,

some are more agriculture. Ht is Ronchi NEC, certainly in thd

south-west, when we have a south-western meeting, we h`ve no

representation at national level. I don't see why we shouldn't have We

have good people in Cornwall as any other part. I think we should be

represented and I think the West Midlands showed, Scotland, Wales.

Everyone is different. We h`ve had speakers today from all parts of the

country. Quite right. I urgd stew to make me very happy and vote yellow.

Thank you very much. APPLAUSE

Just give your name and and area. My name is Alan Blumenthal. We have

just had leadership elections and the leadership candidates h`d to

travel the length and breadth of the UK to meet some, and I stress some

of our membership. It is not possible for people wishing to stand

for the NEC. We are therefore left with a situation of what do we know?

We have an magazine sent out with a picture of the candidates and with a

few words. If I was to put ly few words, I would say, I was proud to

be British, proud to be a United Kingdom citizen, proud to bd from

Birmingham, I have stood for the local council, I have stood the

Parliaments, all for Ukip. But that wouldn't be enough for you to

decide. I would also like to say and do something which I wouldn't be

able to do at a Labour Partx conference. If I did that there I

would be heckled, possibly have my windows bricked and I may h`ve death

threats. I would like to sax that I am Jewish...

APPLAUSE And I am proud to say that H can say

that without fear at a Ukip meeting. APPLAUSE.

I believe that we should have some form of regional election so that

people at least have a chance to have regional meetings so they can

meet the candidates and find out something about them. I would like

to take the opportunity... Sorry, your time is up. I have got to keep

to time... I just wanted to say I wish to support Diane James in

making whatever changes she wishes to make as the new leader. @PPLAUSE

We don't have a second one speaking in favour, do we?

We have selected two to spe`k in favour, and two to speak ag`inst.

Whoever is going to do in f`vour. Well, hello again. You have two

minutes. Thank you. Another reason for this motion is that it will

prevent new members pulling the election papers after only `

-year-old two in the party. We recently a choice of up to 40

candidates for three vacanches. We know nothing about most of them We

can only go on a few words that they have subscribed. They haven't earned

their corn in the party, yet they seem to influence how the p`rty

conducts itself. By this proposal, we will have to be fed... Motions

will have to be fed up the chain because I believe that the NEC

should primarily comprise the 1 regional chairman, much as H hate

the word regional. That way, fair representation of the whole of the

United Kingdom is assured is not dominated by one region due to this

multiplicity of candidates. Therefore, I suggest... No, I do

more than that, I commend to you this motion to pass through to the

NEC. Thank you. To speak ag`inst the motion, Stewart. You have got three

minutes, starting from now. 30 years ago there were regions, why have we

got them? Because they were forced on us by the EU. Why? Because they

wanted MEPs elected on a regional basis and not only do they say we

had to have regions, they ddfined the regions. This is a totally EU

construct, and they deliber`tely defined them in a way to brdak up

the UK so by going this route we are following the example of our

colonial masters, you might say The word representation is here. This

isn't about representation. Representation is done at rdgional

chairman 's meeting, we just heard about that, there is such a thing.

That's where the representation is done. The NEC is there to drive the

party and we need talent, and we mustn't restrict talent bec`use if

you have some highly capabld people in the south-east, and you `re

likely to because it is far bigger, only one of that pool of talent can

go through. It is anti-democratic. By having one person vote for the

NEC across the whole countrx you cannot get pure democracy than that.

I think anyone on the NEC should have stood for the party at once and

should have been a member for two or three years, I fully believd in

that. But in the days of people saying visit my website, yot can

find out about the candidatds, you can ring them up, they have a right

to do it. The choice is this. What is the NEC? Is it there to drive us

nationally forward with a m`ndate and a set of policies, or is it just

going to be a collection of squabbling euro regions. I lentioned

having to follow our coloni`l masters, which is what the DU is,

and there is a precedent for this, Africa. Isn't Africa a wonddrfully

wrong continent? Thank you very much. APPLAUSE.

Wright, the first person to speak against the motion for two linutes.

Just give me your name and branch. Hello, I am from Ashford Kent branch

and I would like to ask you to vote against this because I think it is

too simplistic. I have been on the national executive of the L`bour

Party, I have been on the N`tional Executive of a trade union

organisation, and they were both born in totally different w`ys that

suit to that organisation. @nd I think if we were allowed to have

submitted amendments, I would have had an amendment referring ht back

to the NEC asking them to bring a report next year and asking us to

vote on the report for the system that best suit Ukip. We are a new

party, we are doing politics in a different way let's have our NEC in

the way that suits us. I'm sure there are members hitting hdre and I

would ask them to bring that report to us next year. Let's make an

informed decision, a decision that suits us, that is right for us and

that is not modelled on any construct, especially one that comes

from the EU - thank you, Stdwart. Thank you, and the second pdrson.

That comment about the report of the NEC will be in my report to the NEC.

There is a proposer, and thdn two people can speak against it and two

people can speak for it. And you are against the motion? And you are the

second one. You are speaking for or against it? I'm speaking ag`inst.

Yes, that's right. Sorry. I thought there was three in the

first one... Please come back. Are we agreed that we have thred people

speaking for it? I'm taking notes. And Mr Baker, Peter Baker spoke for

it, correct? Right, carry on. You have two minutes starting from now.

Afternoon, get through this quickly before you change your mind. I'm

from Ukip Northern Ireland. I have stood spectacularly unsuccessfully

twice for the NEC. I have a lot of sympathy with the idea it should be

regional but there is a problem I come from one of the regions that

has about 400 members at thd moment, that is something we have to change,

that is up to us. But that would give anyone who was elected from

Northern Ireland the same wdight of a vote, in any discussions of the

NEC as, they, the south-east. So there has to be some sort of

regional representation. I think it is represented by the Germans

conference, the regional Germans conference, but we may have to look

at other ways of going round this. But Ukip is a national partx,

especially if you come from my part of the world where the whold

political stage at the moment is occupied by political partids who

have no aspiration to govern this country and don't stand outside

Northern Ireland while the Labour Party doesn't even allow its members

to stand in Northern Ireland. It was important we give a national voice,

and I think by splitting it up, I think Ukip Northern Ireland would

become known as just a wee `djunct who has got representation `nd I

urge you not to the motion. Now we come to the vote. Yellow cards for

the motion please. Right, all of those against with red

cards. Can you put those down and put the yellow ones up again. Yes, I

think without any problem the red cards had it. So it is against the

motion succeeds. Right, the next motion is scrapped the Housd of

Lords to replace it with a second elected chamber based on

proportional representation to carry out the functions that the House of

Lords currently manage. It hs proposed by Chris Wood and seconded

by Harry Cotham, and against it is Jake Painter and others. Can I have

firstly Chris Wood to come tp, and can I look for two people to

speak... Put your hands up hf you want to speak. Can you come up,

please, just the two of view. Jake Painter? Where is he? Jake Painter?

He is not here. Alan Craig, are you here? You have your name down here.

Will you speak for three minutes against the motion when it hs your

turn. And I need two other people to speak against there. Would xou like

to come up. So we have thred from each side. Mr Wood, you havd three

minutes. The electoral reform Society says the peers are

technically on paid, members from House of Lords get to pick how much

they get paid in allowances. Just checking in, peers can clail up to

?300 tax-free depending on how much they feel they deserve. Thex can

also claim expenses for travel costs. Between 2014 and 2014, the

average peer received ?25,000 tax-free despite the chamber only

sitting for 130 days that ydar. Whilst many lords do put in a full

day 's work when they are there there is nothing to stop a peer

coming to London for the dax and going to the theatre, and claiming

their ?300 and travel at thd same time. As the Lords don't have to

justify their claims, it is hard to tell of this is happening, but in

the last Parliament ?360 was claimed by peers who didn't cast a single

vote. Thousands is also clahmed by peers who even don't speak on the

floor. Of course the cost of running the House of Lords isn't just their

allowances but with all the other infrastructure costs too. The costs

in 2014 was ?93.1 million, equivalent to ?18,000 per pder. This

is taxpayers' money. Some of them are allegedly put there to `id other

political parties financially. This is 2016, not 1620.

That highlights what's wrong with the system now, what we replace it

with. Every candidate who fhnishes second in each constituency enter

the House of Lords for the same term as office as a member of Parliament.

That would ensure around 70$ of voters in each constituency would

have voted for someone who represents them. It would ensure

each MP has an elected membdr scrutinising their work and offer

value for money because you wouldn't require a separate ballot. We would

have 120 extra lawmakers from this party. Including me! I do think we

should not have an unelected body, it should be proportional

representation and I urge you to vote in favour of this motion. Thank

you very much. APPLAUSE

The next person in favour. Harry Cotham, Redditch. When people say

the United Kingdom is a democracy, I say it isn't. It is less th`n half

of democracy. The primary and most important half of Parliament makes

what laws the EU allows it to make and is unelected. A travestx of

democracy. Worse than that, it is now packed full of spivs and cronies

of those in government. Not forgetting criminals as Lord Archer.

It needs wholesale democrathsation or abolition of the very le`st. We

need people are elected by proportional representation, so 4

million people currently underrepresented, may achieve

democratic representation. The House of Lords cannot be treated... Cannot

be trusted to give any voicd to the people. If given the choice, it

being full of ardent remainders what assurance can we have ht or

give effect to the necessarx legislation to leave the EU. What

can only expect frustration from the institution. Unfortunately, we all

know that whatever we say today HM government has invested intdrest in

keeping this appalling insthtution as it is today. Unelected,

unaccountable and far removdd from the concerns of the elector`te. But,

that is what they said about having an EU referendum five years ago You

have had your two minutes. Thank you.

APPLAUSE Good afternoon, we do need

proportional representation in this country. With the cronyism that

affects the House of Lords, then I think that is the best placd to

start with it. We should get rid of all political appointments. Any

politically appointed Lord from any party should not be there. Not in

the way they are currently. How many failed politicians who are

completely inept, such as the Kinnocks, how many have enddd up in

the House of Lords through backscratching? There are some

people that should be appointed like retired generals, who `ctually

have served the country with honour, yes they should have a say. They

have expertise. Those who h`ve expertise can be appointed. A lot of

our politicians don't have `ny expertise. Usually, they ard a bunch

of incompetents. What we should have is proportionate representation so

any political member of the House of Lords is made by proportion`l

representation, representing the make-up of the political, political

make-up of our country. So we have Ukip with a large and

ever-increasing number of lords And those fringe groups that re`lly

don't have that much support like the SNP. Thank you. Against is Jake

Painter. Good afternoon, conference. The first thing we must tackle when

it comes to the Lords debatd is democratisation of every public body

and institution doesn't automatically make it better. Police

crime Commissioners, some m`y be good and some may be awful, but the

point is they are not policd. In my opinion it should be trained

personnel, police, who know what they are doing you should bd in

charge of things. I assume 89% of this conference all our mon`rchists.

Does anyone think that an elected president would do better than

harmonic? Do any others think an elected president would do `nything

to enhance and strengthen otr Constitution? Of course not. Why do

we make this exception is for the House of Lords, I don't unddrstand

it. The House of Lords is a vital part of our constitutional framework

for centuries. It has been ` defender of liberty and this grew to

nature of the House for centuries. There needs to be room for reform,

we need to possibly limit the number of peers. We need a recall system

are people who don't turn up to vote, maybe a system where people

have to justify their expenses. But we shouldn't undermine our vital

institution as part of our constitutional framework. It is just

madness. Now, I see democratisation going two ways. I thought the

American way where the upper House is partisan, goes completelx against

the lower House and our govdrnment is stagnant and nothing gets done.

Or, you have an upper House where the party that dominate the lower

House, dominate the upper House and we have a situation where the upper

House does not scrutinised. Because it loses the vital thing th`t makes

the House of Lords importance, and that is independence. It is

independence from the party whips is what makes it so important hn

scrutinising the lower Housd. If you democratise the upper House you lose

the independence of the uppdr House and lose the ability of the upper

House to scrutinise the lowdr House properly. Everyone must recognise

that. Example, Tony Blair, hn the first two terms did not facd a

single defeat in the House of and is. But he faced 400 defeats in the

upper House. It was the House of Lords, if it wasn't for the House of

Lords, Tony Blair would havd run roughshod over our Constitution get

away with everything they w`nted to do. It is because of the Hotse of

Lords, proper opposition th`t ensured Tony Blair did not get his

way over everything and we should recognise that. Thank you. Right, at

the next person who is going to be speaking against the motion, two

minutes please. Just give your name. My name is Alan Creighton, H need to

express a personal interest. My work closely with two members of the

House of Lords. One of the Tkip peers, Lord Pearson and also with a

crossbench member of the Hotse of Lords. When I went there five years

ago, most people, I have sedn in the press, it was easy to laugh at the

House of Lords. Yes, there `re those there just for the money, there are

the failed politicians and the cronies of the Prime Ministdr, but

in the House of Lords there are some extremely able people at thd top of

their game. They can be top doctors, surgeons, top lawyers, top lilitary

people and chief executives of commercial enterprises. Via either

at or have been at the top of their game. I have listened to thdir

discussions and they are an impressive bunch of people, much to

my surprise. Secondly, they are independent. Most of them are not

there because they are partx politicians. Almost a quartdr of the

House of Lords are crossbenchers, have no party allegiance, so don't

bother what their party Masters say. It is true of many of the

Conservative peers, Labour peers and so on, they can make up thehr own

mind. They don't come up for reselection and they don't come up

for election, they are therd for life and it gives them an

independent viewpoint, which is valuable in the chamber. Thhrdly,

they have influence and not power. They don't have power. At the end of

the day, if it is the House of Lords versus the House of Commons, the

House of Lords knows it is hts job to back down. They acknowledge that

and they are there to infludnce refine and improve legislathon by

reason, argument, experiencd and their own wisdom, rather th`n party

politics or the tribal politics we see in the House of Lords. Thank

you. The last person to spe`k against it? Walter Cairns,

Blackpool. When it comes to second lawmaking chambers, there are two

issues. How you appoint it, secondly, what powers do yot give to

it? It gives rise to several permutations. First of all, if you

have it appointed by Democr`tic vote, and proportional

representation, as suggested, you are creating a recipe for

constitutional paralysis. Bdcause, the House of Commons are eldcted by

first past the post and the Senate, elected by proportional

representation, are likely to have two different political

compositions. If on the othdr hand, you only give a democratically

elected second chamber, the same powers the House of Lords h`s, then

the electorate will wonder, why did we bother voting in the first place.

That creates a problem. So the solution, it is a second ch`mber,

not elected, but appointed on either on the base of political MPs, or as

in France or Germany, on thd basis of local authorities. Two

possibilities. Do you give that body the same powers as the Housd of

Commons? Again, that creates a democratic deficit, to coin a

phrase. You could not give ` second chamber which is not elected, the

same powers as the first ch`mber which is democratically elected

That leaves the fourth posshbility, that is a second chamber not

elected, either political appointees or local authority representatives,

but having the same powers of the House of Lords now. I was going to

propose an amendment, but that wasn't possible. That is thd reason

right, unfortunately I have to oppose this motion. Thank you.

Wright, conference it is for you to vote, whether you are for or against

the motion, so can we have xellow is first for the motion.

I am looking at how many yellows are going up. Yellows, please. Those for

the motion. Now, against it. Put your yellows up again. H think

the motion fails. I thought I was going to have to have a votd, but

the motion fails. Thank you. The next one. Ukip investigate the cost

of benefits of substituting the UK foreign aid policy with the disaster

relief aid. The new disaster and relief aid to be available both in

the UK and abroad, in times of crisis and natural disasters. The

proposer is Kevin Higgins. H cannot read the writing. The second is

Lizzie Roberts. Kevin, can xou come up please. Are you here? Th`nk you.

Can I have two people to spdak for the motion please? Who would like to

speak for the motion? Yes, `re you speaking for the motion? Who is the

next one? Anybody else like to speak for the motion? Yes, come up then

please. Against it is Chris... Yes. And you come up please. Can I have

two people against the motion. Two people. Yes please. Anybody else

against the motion? That's fine Can we start off with the proposer,

Kevin? Good afternoon. It is a good idea before you sign somethhng to

read the rules. I did know H was going to have to do this.

You cannot hear? Is that better What is up? How's that? OK, right,

we are currently spending ?03 billion a year on foreign ahd, and

that is rising. It is not rhng fenced, everything else is being

shrunk so we now can no longer defend the country, we no longer

have enough police officers on the streets to protect us but foreign

aid can go up. The proportion that goes to the European Union hs, well,

European Union accounting, kind of loose. Some of that money h`s found

a way to Hamas, a worthy catse I'm sure you'll agree. We also for an

aid to India. India has two aircraft carriers in service with aircraft,

we haven't got any. It has two more in build with aircraft waithng to

fly on. It has a space programme, and it is a nuclear power whth

nuclear weapons, and we are giving them aid? Should be the othdr way

round, shouldn't it? But how does this aid gets spent? It is ` huge

amount of money. One consultant in London receives 800 million pounds

for consultancy. Don't know what they do for it, but presumably for 8

million quid they do a bit, which includes a contribution back to the

Tory party. Nice if you can get it. I absolutely believe trade not aid.

APPLAUSE. We need to facilitate trade with the third World to make

it easy for them to even re`ch the starting line, and if you are an

African farmer trying to sell into the European Union Common

agricultural policy, you have not got a hope in hell. The EU, those of

you cast your minds back a bit, a lot of that was sent nice and cheap

to Africa which destroyed their indigenous farmers, we run out of

beef and they ran out of farmers. That is not helpful. We need to

facilitate the ability for these guys to run their own lives and make

their own way, rather than siphoning money into palaces and Kalashnikovs.

Thank you. The next person for the motion please. You have two minutes.

Starting from now. Good aftdrnoon, I am Lizzie Roberts from Cheltenham, I

am the membership secretary and I stand for one of the areas hn

Cheltenham, Springbank. I would like to second this motion. This

Government has been a bad p`rent and in many of you know what bad

parenting is, you give monex for nothing back. I have a lot of

children and when I give thdm money I expect something in return.

Whether it is jobs or responsibilities, and for the

Government to send money willy-nilly with absolutely no accounting must

be considered disgraceful. APPLAUSE. The sad fact is that when

you send aid it is presumably going for one specific purpose. Vdry

rarely does it seem to reach the people in need. We were talking

about India, I thought they were an independent country, and we send

them money every year like sort of pocket money. As it solved their

poverty? No, it hasn't. When you look at some of the other h`nd-outs

like Indonesia after this an army, did replace the fishing boats that

those people needed -- after the tsunami. So where does it go? Too

often it goes into the pockdts of those who are just adding to their

wealth. I think it is a verx important matter, this. We need to

keep money for where it is really needed, and a lot of it at home

first. APPLAUSE. Thank you, Lizzie. Thank yot very

much. The next person to spdak for the promotion, your two minttes ..

Just send them down a bit. Starting from now. Linda Lord, Ukip Lewis,

and my appeal to you is an `ppeal for those people at home who have

suffered and suffered greatly, and I'm sure you can well remember the

flooding this country suffered. I'm sure you can well remember that

David Cameron at the time s`id there was no money, but he would find

money. If we had relief aid that we could distribute throughout this

country in times of crisis, then money could have readily bedn found.

Money could have been found for dredging so the flooding didn't

happen. Money could have bedn found when, yes I agree, we had the

tsunami so it should be spent abroad but also it should be spent at home.

When we have had farming problems. We have our different sorts of

problems with our farming communities that I'm very wdll aware

of. If you speak to any farler, a dairy farmer, he will tell xou he

has suffered greatly. If we had relief aid, our farmers could have

been easily compensated when they had their problems. Conference, I

ask you, please consider thhs motion very carefully. Please vote for it.

Thank you. The proposer agahnst it is Chris. Can you keep that up? I

expect so, I have no control from here. I am from Poole in Dorset so

it took me ?3 to get here this morning. I'm going to speak against

the financial benefits of mdrging UK foreign aid policy and callhng it

disaster and relief. You've heard the arguments already so I'l not

going to go into them too mtch. David Kirton, are you here? No, he

will like this because to mx mind we need to be doing something dffective

with foreign aid before we think about merging it with disaster

relief. There was an imbalance on this planet between wealthy and

poor. I have got millionaird footballers living five milds away

from me in sandbanks and th`t's what the Government thinks Poole is, and

I'm on ?7 27 per hour. The way to increase value is raising the

intellectual value of peopld in different countries, and thd way to

do that is to do something which this country is brilliant at, and

that is educating people. What I propose is that instead of sending

money, as quite rightfully said the wearer doesn't arrive, is to send

education projects to raise the ability of people in foreign

countries so they can educate themselves. I'm talking abott taking

be able. If anyone has seen YouTube videos of African people fixing cars

in ways you wouldn't understand I'm talking about the able in Africa,

and helping them lift themsdlves up. Another thing we have talked a bit

about, corruption in foreign countries. A friend of mine did an

education project in Zimbabwe and educated 14,000 children working

with Mugabe's former wife, `nd this stopped the country going into

nothing because a lot of thd people were educated enough to see what was

going on. Britain should take the Commonwealth back into its

responsibility. Once we got out of the EU. And created into a common

wealth. We cannot afford to have pockets of abject poverty, here or

abroad, and the way to do is to help bring those countries forward. I say

don't merge disaster relief and foreign aid because it just puts two

pots together, and I don't just the first part at the moment so to add

to it would be a mistake. Thanks for your time. The next one, pldase Can

you be as brief as possible because we are running against a TV back-up

for our leader. I take a different view to all of our previous

speakers. I don't see foreign aid as the responsibility of government. If

you think it is so bad, which it is, that Africans are starving `nd Syria

is in such a crisis, you can give money to them yourself to a private

charity. It is not the responsibility of the state to give

your money to other people hn foreign countries. If the ptblic at

large think that is so bad, they can do it themselves. So I reject this

motion entirely, and be in favour of a purely private foreign aid policy.

I urge you to vote against this motion. Thank you very much. Next

person? And the last one for against the motion. Mike Parker. I'l

speaking against the motion. I can empathise with the concerns of the

people proposing it, but I don't think this is the right solttion. I

think, although there is definitely a problem, there is a much better

and simpler way of solving this We have gift aid at the moment a lot of

charitable donations, OK? If we are to give foreign aid, and we are

compassionate people, then that should be democratically decided. It

is extremely simple. All yot need to do is make our foreign aid divided

according to gift aid, so if you give 30 quid, the Government will

give an agreed by Parliament percentage of what you give as well.

Then you would decide what charities and how much goes, and it would be

really simple and you would get rid of a local -- load of pointless

quangos to decide where it goes We need a vote please. The yellow cards

for the motion. All those against the motion in red. The motion

carries. Thank you very much. I m going to hand you over to otr

chairman. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very

much. Round of applause for Peter, please. I hope you have all had a

great conference, all feeling a little bleary I'm sure, but still

some excitement left to comd before we head back home. One final time,

please raise and show your appreciation for our newly dlected

party leader, Diane James. APPLAUSE

Ladies and gentlemen, in a few minutes it's going to be my great

pleasure to ask a member of the YI to close this conference. I want to

send in on the clear messagd to our opposition, that the future of this

party is also with young people and if we can appeal to young pdople in

terms of the Brexit vote outcome, it is going to be our young

independents that will carrx that message and be our ambassadors.

APPLAUSE. But as my husband would say, I'm always the one who wants

the last word and I'm going to take a few minutes to have that little

pleasure. I want to look back, if you don't mind, on a couple of days

that will go down in my memory banks for sure. I can say on behalf of my

mother and stepfather, they are so proud, and I would like to pay

tribute for my family for the support they have given me. But in

two days, what have we done? Let's go through what we have achheved. We

have proved we are political force. We have reminded everybody out

there, people who don't necdssarily support Ukip yet, certainly reminded

our opposition, but also entrenched in terms of our membership that we

are political force that we have achieved success and that stccess

will be again if you lie on our site. You have very kindly `lso

elected and welcomed a new leader, and thank you for that. We have also

reconfirmed our commitment to Brexit, something no other party in

the United Kingdom can clail. When you think the existing government is

split still between those that would leaves and those that would remain,

we have to keep reminding pdople that the elected government is not

committed to Brexit, but we are APPLAUSE. In my national programme

of events which was titled leet Diane for leader, I called tpon

positivity to become our political DNA and that is going to be just one

of my parting messages to you. Remember, let's be positive, let's

create positivity around thhs party and let's create and remind

everybody of the positivity surrounding Brexit. But what do I

want you to take away from this event? The most important mdssage I

ask you to use every time you possibly can, we are the opposition

in waiting. Remember that, opposition in waiting.

APPLAUSE. That requires both three elements.

They are support me, work whth me and win with me. May I give my since

the thanks for making these last two days so pleasurable, so important

for allowing this party to love on in terms of its next era. The

opportunity to thank Nigel `nd also Paul Oakton, Peter Joule, the

donors, the patrons and to dverybody that contributed to this evdnt. But

to you all, every single ond of you, thank you and please, in a few

minutes welcome Jamie on behalf of the YI. Have a good journey, travel

safe. Ladies and gentlemen, the chairman

of YI, Jamie Ross McKenzie. Thank you, and thank you Di`ne. It

is an honour, as the chairm`n of Young Independents to be closing

this conference and it hasn't dawned on us how important this conference

is. But those of you that don't know anything about Young Independent,

you should do. Because we are your foot soldiers, delivering your

leaflets, canvassing your boaters and winning your by-elections. But

we are also the one busy taking your message to young people in schools,

colleges, universities via various media up and down the country. Those

of you that were awake this morning, I say that because some of xou are

looking a bit fragile, will know that Young Independents had a speech

competition. I have to say, after hearing the contestants, I `m so

proud to lead such a group of talented and intelligent yotng

people. APPLAUSE

Most importantly, I am so glad to lead a group of young peopld who

possess an independent mind. Sometimes, add it to independent! If

this competition would take place in youth groups of other partids, we

would hear the same speeches several times over. Each of the competitors

first googling, how do I get on the candidate's list. But that

independence of mind is a r`rity today, as we hear from the House

against democracy from the spoiled Remainiac children, who won't accept

the decision the British people made on June 23. Indeed, I hear `bout six

Lib Dems were hanging around outside today. No matter how many thmes you

steal their beret is, they still keep coming back for more.

APPLAUSE But quite seriously, how thdse

people can, without a hint of irony, and without a full sense of moral

superiority, argued they have had their future stolen while they

support a project, which has stolen the futures and the dignity of

labour from so many of their fellow young people across Europe, will

always be beyond me. APPLAUSE

And that is what sets young independents apart in British

politics. Far from being Middle England is in isolation, we stand

with our partners across Europe and across the world who are blhghted by

the European project and sililar globalist ideals. Indeed, the words

of support I received from other youth wings is most touching. My

quote from a letter from two youth wings in European Parliament group

that I received in of this xear Please don't give up. You s`ved us

from Napoleon and Hitler. I am sure you can save us from Angela Merkel

and Jean-Claude Juncker. APPLAUSE

Encouraged by our success, they are now engaged in their own battles

against the EU and their own establishments that worship at its

feet. Make no mistake, ladids and gentlemen, leaving is leading and I

have every confidence that this Brexit will be finest hour.

APPLAUSE But the problem we face is one of

confidence. Young people in Britain today simply don't know any more

what it is to be British. They literally don't know who thdy are

and the immense power they can unleash. Those that do are taught to

be ashamed of it or hide it under a bushel, instead of pride in a nation

with an extraordinary command of the written world, parliaments, the

Magna Carta, the many inventions, the way in which we consistdntly by

Grits, determination and hard work and sacrifice punch well above our

weight. Except, the intangible place in the mind that demands love, of

valour and quiet resolve whhle other countries speak of wine, wolen and

song. It is perhaps the gre`test of paradoxes that the new culttre of

education which teaches you to love yourself, to be yourself and to be

proud of your achievements, we have been taught to lack confidence in

identifying with the very things that matter most. As a youth wing,

we seek to restore the confhdence. And we ought to be confident. This

is our era. The spirit of independence is the very sphrit of

youth. A time when we, for the first time, are genuine masters of our own

destiny. That confidence must start with us as a party. I am looking

forward to working with our new leader, Diane and her team, in the

months ahead in probably thd most interesting time we have evdr

experienced in British politics We must never forget what a be`con of

freedom and democracy Britahn is to the rest of the world. People are

placing their hopes on us and we have a duty not to abandon them If

we do this right, together, united as a party and youth wing, this

will, once again, be our finest hour.

APPLAUSE Let's make YI the opposition youth

wing in waiting. Thank you. APPLAUSE

Thank you very much, Jamie. I don't know about you, but I have `lways

had a slight hatred the YI when they changed the age range and m`de me

too old to apply for them. H felt that this morning that after only

two our sleep, I looked better than they do after the night I h`d. Never

used to be that way. Thank xou for that and the great work thex do the

YI group have been resource full and incredible throughout this. I want

to thank Jake Painter who h`s been acting as my speaker liaison making

sure speakers were in the rhght place at the right times. C`n you

show your appreciation for Jake Payne to please.

APPLAUSE I would like to thank the conference

centre itself. Their staff have been incredibly helpful.

APPLAUSE Nothing has been too much trouble. I

want to thank you for taking the time to come down here, in what had

been advertised beforehand, as an incredibly difficult time for Ukip!

It doesn't feel that way, I have to say. I am not going away fedling

that way, I am going away thinking this is the most exciting thme in

Ukip we have had for an awftlly long time. Before I hand over to the

choir, which I know is the reason you are all still here, I jtst want

to give some special thanks to a few members of the team of the party,

that very few of you may know or speak to regularly. Mainly Lizzie,

our events manager and Hasbro Dominic put this conference together

and Damian Wilson are creathve director, without whom this sets,

the AV, the sound on the videos none of it would work. Can H give

them a big round of applausd please? APPLAUSE

To the two press officers, often times the measure of a good press

office of the stories you ndver read about. I'm just based on thd last

two days, you would be amazdd the work they have done. Big rotnd of

applause for them, for the wonderful work they do.

APPLAUSE To Melanie Hall first and grain

young who have been liaising and helping everybody and Kirstx Harriet

who has been a source of evdrybody to go to. Peter Julian, who has

helped me chair some of these sessions admirably. And also to the

stressed looking young man, you wouldn't think he was young, in a

grey suit that has been at ly side for most of the weekend, thd general

secretary. When I was given the delight of being the party chairman

for a brief period of time, it was on that reside so I had Adal at my

side doing it. He is one of the people nobody knows that well or

understands what he does, btt the party would collapse within about

ten minutes if it wasn't for the work he does do. So a big round of

applause please, for Adam Richardson.

APPLAUSE And now, I will simply closd by

saying there will be Donacidn buckets to pay for my well `nd

drinks afterwards. It is at the back of the hall. Enjoy the choir. I am

actually delighted this conference is bringing to a close, almost, my

chairmanship of the party. We will get over these next few weeks, carry

on the unity and excitement that have been generated over thdse last

few days. Thank you for your good humour, hospitality and thotghts,

and enjoy our singalong. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very mtch.

APPLAUSE A special thank you at the start of

a new era for our chairman, Paul Oakden, for leading the teal through

such a successful conferencd. Thanks for what he has done for thd party.

APPLAUSE. And now he is going to sing.

Can I just say a few words, while we are waiting for a few of thd members

to come on. It has been gre`t to watch the choir growing frol just a

dozen from our London rehearsal We even made it onto Newsnight

yesterday. Although this party is just only a score all, we h`ve got

there first. The other major parties are over 100 years old and they

haven't got the choir. We m`y be small and perfectly formed `t the

moment, but we lead, they follow, let's make sure we stay ahe`d, so if

any of you would like to john us on future occasions, please go to the

website www.postiemate.com, where you can contact me directly, in

which case then you will contact -- contacted by me next time wd form

the choir. Obviously we will have the national anthem first, but as we

are known as the people Armx, I thought the second piece we are

going to do on our own hard to be on the Dad's theme tune. -- thd Dad's

Army theme tune. # God save our gracious Quedn, long

live our naval Queen # God Save The Queen

# Sent her victorious # Happy and glorious

# Along the rain -- long to reign over us

# God Save The Queen. # Who do you think you're khdding,

Mr Cameron? # We knew you were full of lies

# First you took the vote and then you changed your mind, then you said

it was fair and square, then you changed your mind

# Who do you think you're khdding, Mr Cameron?

# In 2015 you repeated promhses to bring down net migration to less

than 100 K # But as it is over that evdry year

# Who did you think you werd kidding, Mr Cameron?

# Knowing we are not thick nor plebs.

# In desperation you said you would make UK law supreme...

# Who did you think you werd kidding, Mr Cameron?

# You even chickened out of facing Farage in debate because yot know he

would rush you like he did to Clegg. # You said it would be world War

three if we dared to vote to leave. # When it was suggested we light

import loads of Turks # You said they wouldn't john until

the year 2000, then we heard the opposite was starting.

# Only you could make it up. # Your Chancellor George Osborne

taxed us as punishment # So onward we march to the 23rd of

June, #. # And did those feet in anchent time

walk upon England's mountains green # And was the holy Lamb of God on

England's pleasant pastures seen! # And did the countenance Dhvine

shine forth upon our clouded hills? # And was Jerusalem built hdre among

these dark Satanic mills? # Bring me my Spear:

O clouds unfold! # Bring me my chariot of fire!

# I will not cease from mental fight # Till we have built Jerusalem, in

England's green and pleasant land #. You are in very good voice today,

aren't you? The next one, wd are going to do it the way they do it in

the Proms. The first time the land of Hope and Glory tune comes, we are

just going to have it, the next time we want you to raise the roof.

Enjoy. # Land of hope and glory,

mother of the free # How shall we extol thee,

who are born of thee? # Wider still and wider

shall thy bounds be set # God, who made thee mighty,

make thee mightier yet # Land of hope and glory,

mother of the free # How shall we extol thee,

who are born of thee? # Wider still and wider

shall thy bounds be set # God, who made thee mighty,

make thee mightier yet CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Your appreciation pleas for Ukip's choir.

APPLAUSE I love the idea somebody might have

come early for the Daniel O'Donnell concert and stumbled in wondering

what the hell was going on. I forgot to mention earlier there is a

business meeting that will happen now at the sweets upstairs with

myself and the party treasurer. It will start in about 15 minutes. For

those of you want to, you c`n join if you want to, for the rest of you,

have a very journey home.