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Good afternoon. Good afternoon. With every bone in mind taking their | :02:31. | :02:41. | |
sheet, please. -- would everyone mind. If you could take your seat I | :02:42. | :02:51. | |
would be most grateful. Thank you for accommodating our change in the | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
starting time for this session. We are allowed an extra 15 minutes for | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
lunch. I am delighted to now started this very interesting penultimate | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
session of the conference here in Bournemouth and I would like to | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
introduce to the podium your appreciation for our leader, Diane | :03:13. | :03:13. | |
James. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome again. | :03:14. | :03:30. | |
From my perspective, to the conference again this afternoon. NBA | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
few moments it will be my absolute pleasure to invite Douglas Carswell, | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
Ukip's MP, to address you. I, like many of you... Yes, let's do that. | :03:44. | :03:55. | |
APPLAUSE I went to Clacton to support him, he took a very | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
courageous decision to leave the Tories and come to us and I am not | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
interested in what has gone on beforehand. | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
I want you to get the most rapturous welcome to Douglas Carswell MP, | :04:10. | :04:17. | |
you'd get MP. Many thanks. -- Ukip MP. | :04:18. | :04:30. | |
thank you for that warm introduction. The referendum victory | :04:31. | :05:00. | |
on June the 20 thirds was not the Conservative Party victory, it was | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
not Labour's pectin, it was our victory. APPLAUSE. -- it was not | :05:04. | :05:12. | |
Labour's victory. It was your directory, it was Ukip victory. We | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
dared not just forced them to hold the referendum, we helped win it. | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
Looking around I see lots of familiar faces, people who I know | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
are helped run street stalls, people who went out handing out leaflets, | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
who did not just do that during the referendum campaign but people I | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
know did that for years. Thank you for what you did. In the referendum | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
and before. It would not have happened without you. I also want to | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
say well done to Diane, our new leader. It was a wonderful listening | :05:54. | :06:00. | |
to her speaking yesterday. It takes a certain something for someone to | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
offer themselves to Leeds, not just a political party, but the third | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
largest party in British politics today. -- offer themselves to lead. | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
I salute all of the candidates who put themselves forward for the job. | :06:18. | :06:26. | |
APPLAUSE the membership is now spoken and made a clear choice. | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
We must now all rally behind the Diane. APPLAUSE Diane, I give you | :06:31. | :06:41. | |
110% of my support. Well done. | :06:42. | :06:51. | |
APPLAUSE it has been a great year for our party. | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
A few years ago the experts in Westminster said we would never get | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
the referendum. David Cameron and George Osborne were estimates it | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
would not happen. -- they were adamant. It did. The experts said | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
the leave the site could never win. At times it felt like the entire | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
weight of the Government machine was against us, not just Downing Street, | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
but the so-called experts and economists, the central bankers, | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
corporate bankers, lobbyists, the CBI. George Osborne blew up the long | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
list of experts ready to tell us to come to heal. -- George Osborne blew | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
up. The fall in line, or as Barack Obama put it, HQ, to tell us what to | :07:39. | :07:52. | |
do. -- a a queue. It seems to me we're starting even earlier this | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
year. They said interest rates would go up and instead they went down. | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
They said there would be a recession and instead we seen growth. They | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
said the economy could not cope. I suspect more jobs will have been | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
created in Britain since the referendum than the whole of the | :08:11. | :08:21. | |
rest of the EU combines. We won despite having the system rigged | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
against us and Ukip can keep on winning despite having the system | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
stacked against us. Nowhere is the system rate more against us than it | :08:30. | :08:36. | |
is in Westminster. -- rigged against us. Sitting on those green benches I | :08:37. | :08:44. | |
often find myself surrounded by 50-something Scottish Nationalist | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
MPs, 56, I think. We got three times more votes than they got at the last | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
election. And yet there are 50 of them. APPLAUSE and only one Ukip MP. | :08:56. | :09:03. | |
How can that be fair? The SNP and the Liberal Democrats gets you asked | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
question Time, questions of Prime Minister's Question Time, I am lucky | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
if I get called to speak at all. We got more votes than the Lib Dems, | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
Plaid Cymru, the Ulster Unionist Party Green Party combined. APPLAUSE | :09:19. | :09:29. | |
I know how unfair our political system in this country really is. | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
I sit next to it everyday. We urgently needs electoral reform. We | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
need to make those parliaments more accountable to constituents. And | :09:42. | :09:48. | |
supper the neighbouring county for the Mac people voted overwhelmingly | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
to leave the EU yet every single Suffolk MP supported remain. Across | :09:53. | :10:00. | |
the country only a tiny handful of principal patriotic and in many | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
cases wonderful Labour MPs supported leave. The rest, the overwhelming | :10:06. | :10:13. | |
majority, voted Remain. Michael Gove famously once described the | :10:14. | :10:15. | |
education establishment in this country as being the blob. I tell | :10:16. | :10:25. | |
you, the real blob and Britain is sitting in the House of Commons. | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
That is where the group thing is to be found. It is group think that has | :10:33. | :10:39. | |
been running this country for too many years and running it into the | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
ground. APPLAUSE or we are beating the group | :10:43. | :10:52. | |
thinkers on Europe and on immigration. | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
My job in Parliament is to offer an alternative voice where the blob has | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
got it wrong. Britney to those in Westminster that all agree Belgians | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
are pounds of overseas aid should be spent at the Government the | :11:08. | :11:09. | |
Government to Government subsidy. -- millions of pounds of overseas aid. | :11:10. | :11:19. | |
We can win an end to those who cannot see what is wrong with taking | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
money from normal people while giving money to the banks. | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
Quantitative easing is a fancy way of saying hand-outs for banks. | :11:29. | :11:36. | |
We need to press the Government on the timing of article 50. There will | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
be vested interests trying to stall the process and Ukip must push to | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
make sure they get on with it. I am going to be working and continuing | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
to work with Mark reckless and others in the House of Commons. We | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
have been producing policy papers setting out a range of alternative | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
ideas on everything from energy policy, breaking open the cartels | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
surrounding the family courts. Ukip needs to be the party for change. We | :12:06. | :12:15. | |
should be the party that people vote for if they want to change. Upbeat, | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
optimistic, change for a better and brighter future. APPLAUSE it is an | :12:19. | :12:27. | |
enormous honour to call myself a member of this great party and I am | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
looking forward to working with Diane and was team Ukip. | :12:33. | :12:35. | |
Thank you. APPLAUSE | :12:36. | :13:10. | |
thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, when we look | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
at people in our party who have served it for a long time with | :13:17. | :13:23. | |
dignity, tenacity and undoubted loyalty, there are a few people who | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
can hold the level of our next Speaker. I have been asked and it is | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
a difficult request, but I have been asked by Stuart Agnew, apparently | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
standard request he makes a conference, do not clap him during | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
his speech, please. He wants you to get your hands a rest and to save | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
them for rapturous applause at the end of his speech. Ladies and | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
gentlemen, we can get funky round of applause to welcome him on stage, | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
Stuart Agnew. -- we can give him. APPLAUSE I hope the microphone is | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
working. I will take you on a Brexit journey. | :14:08. | :14:15. | |
That started 15 years ago when I was asked to go and join the debate in | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
the NFU council and in those days I was in Norfolk delegate to the NFU | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
council. The president said we ought to have a debate every now and then | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
after the first debate was we think we should join the euro. He needed | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
somebody to oppose that, you might think everyone would jump up but not | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
in those days but I said I would do it, I had never done a debate before | :14:41. | :14:43. | |
and he said I will tell you the rules. So we went and had a debate | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
and I was thrashed by 56 votes to 11 but it was great from and it was a | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
useful experience and I thought Apple gear. -- great fun. Back home | :14:54. | :15:00. | |
a lot of Norfolk farmers were most unhappy their delegate their oppose | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
the euro and when I was up to the election they found a candidate to | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
stand against me. So I thought I like this job but I am not going to | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
compromise what I believe, I am going to make it clear I oppose the | :15:17. | :15:23. | |
euro. I had to get 20 nominations from 20 Norfolk farmers, I approach | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
farmers and said well you support the again? But I do not like the | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
euro and I do not want you to be under any misapprehensions. Some | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
said we like you but we like the euro more than you so we can't. I | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
got the 20 nominations and one had to think about the election. -- | :15:42. | :15:48. | |
election address. I have 50 words on farming enterprise, 50 words on the | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
NFU and 50 word rant against the euro. Why not? That on the ballot | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
paper and a lot of my friend said that if the suicide note. Why did | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
you do that? I easily won the competition. That meant I was in a | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
strong position from there after. I wasn't opposed and had a mandate | :16:08. | :16:18. | |
at against the euro. Two years later I was a candidate in an election. It | :16:19. | :16:24. | |
happened to coincide to coincide with a council meeting. Norfolk | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
farmer said Stuart Agnew shouldn't go to a council meeting, there was a | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
big row about it. In the end I went around telling everybody I'd been | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
banned from the NFU council meeting because I stood for Ukip. That gave | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
me a bit of kudos. We then move onto a surprise invitation I got to speak | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
at the Oxford farming conference. That may mean nothing to you, but | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
that is the premier event in farming. It takes place at Oxford | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
University while the students are on vacation in January. We take over a | :16:55. | :17:00. | |
couple of colleges and lecture rooms, the first morning is the big | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
part of it. I'll let you know that everybody who thinks they are | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
important in forming and all the allied industries go to the Oxford | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
farming conference. If you think you're important in any way | :17:13. | :17:15. | |
connected with Apple Kenji Goto. It is the place to be seen. Like smart | :17:16. | :17:23. | |
people at Ascot. -- if you are anyway connected to agriculture it | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
is the place to be seen. Ministers of agriculture spoke, and sometimes | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
even royalty. In the afternoon there are more technical discussions about | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
supplies and retailers. In the evening we go to the Oxford union | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
debating chamber. I was asked what I propose the motion, this house | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
believes that Arab culture would thrive outside the EU -- | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
agriculture. I was really nervous, really worried about doing this in | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
front of an audience like that. But with the help of Tony Brown who have | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
the right may speech I was allocated a second from the Young farmers | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
club. We had some practice in the farmers club and we took this really | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
seriously. I knew I'd be beaten, but by God I was going to put up a | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
fight. We had a straw poll lead at the beginning. I got between ten and | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
20% support. We gave that the full welly and we won the debate. We | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
actually won the debate. That was seismic, not just for me personally, | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
but from that moment on you couldn't say that all farmers think the EU is | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
wonderful except etc. Some thought it was a one-off, a year later I | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
went to Belfast for a similar debate in Stormont parliament. I won that | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
as well. They couldn't say Oxford was a one off. That set up a tone, a | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
movement in farming that we didn't have to be tied to the EU. We could | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
actually survive and thrive without it. Now, that had built up this | :19:01. | :19:09. | |
platform. I think that was important because I was asked back to Oxford | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
again, at the beginning of 2015. This time to speak on the first | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
morning, what an honour. 15 or 20 years ago with some have said you | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
will be doing that, look at that pig farm over their! I got the chance to | :19:23. | :19:30. | |
outline Ukip's policy for the General Election in a 20 minute | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
speech, we lost the General Election and I forgot about it. Several | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
months later I met a relative of mine who is an agricultural student. | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
He said, all, I liked your Oxford speech. I told him he couldn't have | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
afforded to get to go there. No, no, I didn't go there but our | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
agricultural lecture gave us a link to your speech and told us we must | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
watch it. So my head gets bigger! That was before the referendum | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
campaign. But started properly in November last year. That was the | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
first of 20 specialised our culture debates I was involved with against | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
some big names, around the country, sometimes in media studios with a | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
big audience. I realised about the NFU were asking my Ukip follies to | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
speak at debates about Brexit. They might be up against Tory MPs or MEPs | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
who know a lot about farming. I worried about this and I sent out | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
three lots of briefing papers picking up on my own experience, | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
because I was doing these debates hoping that would help them. I was | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
worried. I know a lot of farming, but they don't. I must have got | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
something right because Farage came up to me in Brussels and said I | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
liked that briefing paper and a sword, Frank God for that. Two of | :20:48. | :20:53. | |
these 26 debate stands out in my mind. The first one was in Norfolk | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
when I was speaking about food security and the problem of | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
importing more and more food and the worry of terrorist activity. There | :21:05. | :21:10. | |
was a young man in the audience smirking condescendingly, it | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
irritated me and I called him out. I said, young man, you wouldn't smirk | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
if you have knew how much of the rings I had when I was your age will | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
stop that wipe the smirk off his face but I made an enemy for ever. | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
Five days later a bomb went off in Brussels yards from where I was | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
sitting. Whenever I spoke about terrorism after that nobody smirked. | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
Now, the second one that stands out in my mind is the one I did in | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
Wales. I was up against no less than the Commissioner for agriculture, an | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
Irishman, native English-speaking who had come from a farming | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
background in Ireland. He was my opponent there. The place was | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
packed. Full of media. It was standing room only. I said, | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
Commissioner, I have a perfectly good personal relationship with you | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
but I don't think you should be here telling us how to vote. It's similar | :22:07. | :22:13. | |
to the Obama thing. He said I'd been invited. We had the debate and I | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
think I did reasonably against someone of his stature, believe he | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
has stature, please. At the end everybody rushed up. They wanted to | :22:23. | :22:25. | |
be for direct with the Commissioner. I was elbowed out of the way, I | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
politely moved aside. Then they said Stuart is going to be in this | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
picture, he is part of this debate. He always goes out of his way to be | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
nice and pleasant to me. Quite different from his predecessor who, | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
was a gift to me, really. Mainly because he couldn't speak English | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
properly and he only had to address the NFU conference for about ten | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
minutes. He was doing my work for me. He very quickly lost the | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
farmers. He got it back on me for saying I shouldn't be in Wales when | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
I went to our cultural event in Cork in Ireland. He was there too. And as | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
usual he came up to me, shot hands and said what are you doing here? I | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
said I've been to Ireland twice, actually, since the vote. I tried to | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
persuade the Irish to follow Britain out of the European Union. He leaned | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
forward and fed into my ear, you mind your own business! With a grin | :23:21. | :23:30. | |
on his face he thought I might be hurt or offended, I was just | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
laughing. Now, where do we go from there? Sometimes, Lady luck shines. | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
And she shone on me in one way during this campaign for the | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
referendum. It became apparent that the EU might ban the herbicide that | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
has been the backbone of farming operations ever since the mid-70s. | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
Most farmers could not imagine life without it. Particularly in British | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
conditions. It certainly undermined the arable farmers, large arable | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
farmers who are normally absolutely pool EU. -- pro-EU. It worried them. | :24:05. | :24:14. | |
I spoke in Strasberg for two minutes about this. Three minutes before I | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
was due to give the speech one of the staff ran up to me and said | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
you've got three minutes now. That was wonderful. I could relax a | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
little bit and give a speech on this chemical. That went well. It went | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
viral, apparently in agricultural circles because I then went to the | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
cereals event in Hertfordshire in June. A big outdoor event. And as I | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
walked about looking at tractors, one thing and another people were | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
coming up to me and saying wouldn't you that bloke in that video? My | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
head gets even bigger! Then we had a proper debate, opposing me was the | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
NFU president and former Minister of agriculture, Lady luck shone on me | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
again. I had the very last word. I was able to say a vote to remain is | :25:02. | :25:13. | |
a vote to ban this. My opponent look miserable we go on from there just | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
looking at some opportunities in agriculture. I'm going to go through | :25:18. | :25:24. | |
these very quickly. I am part of a think tank headed up by Lord Brooke | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
and other peers. We are preparing a paper that we haven't finished yet, | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
but Steph are expecting it. We had a quick list of opportunities. We can | :25:35. | :25:41. | |
retailer agricultural schemes. We can rethink of farm support schemes. | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
I haven't met a Labour MP or Tory MP at who says we shouldn't support | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
agriculture. It's just a matter of how we do it. We do not need knee | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
jerk reactions to pesticides from the green lobby. We need proper | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
field research to study the impact of what we are using on our crops in | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
the wider environment. We should be using them. We can't repatriate | :26:08. | :26:15. | |
organic farming. - the EU has taken an approach on this woods make life | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
impossible for organic farmers. How flexible do you want to be? If we go | :26:20. | :26:26. | |
down the EU would you won't get organic food. It will be too | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
difficult. Then we looked into food labelling. We have the opportunity | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
to label food and that will really make dairy farmers they are unhappy | :26:35. | :26:42. | |
that they think Irish milk is being labelled as British, one way or the | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
other. Public sector coolant. We have to put this will tend outside | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
the EU. What an opportunity to say to hospitals and prisons, why not | :26:52. | :26:55. | |
sourced locally? Who knows, patients may require a quicker with both | :26:56. | :27:02. | |
local food? Aren't prisoners may get on the past to true righteousness | :27:03. | :27:08. | |
quicker. This is a huge area, obviously. We'll have to have a look | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
at them. Some obvious ones are identification of the compulsory and | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
John it money that doesn't work. Asked by staff and stop. And going | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
through these very fast, I am aware of that. How much time have I got? | :27:23. | :27:30. | |
Two minutes. Foot and mouth, we go back to the report, we were not | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
allowed to use this report in 2001 and had to burn all these carcasses | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
which made the thing worse. This is my village. This is the main street. | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
Look at that closely. Two weeks after the Brexit result, Brendan, | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
who lives in that has commissioned an artist to put back there. Note | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
that one of the stars has been removed and has fallen as a | :27:54. | :27:58. | |
teardrop. The media learned that I lived in the parish and will roll | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
over the area. Aren't you upset about this, don't you want to get | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
down? Know, every time I drove past I'm reminded of my success. Some of | :28:07. | :28:13. | |
you may remember a singer in the 1960s called Del Shannon, I'm not | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
going to sing his song, there are two types of teardrops but he said | :28:18. | :28:21. | |
there was one for sorrow, one for joy. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE. | :28:22. | :28:40. | |
I apologise that I started the applause at some point during that. | :28:41. | :28:52. | |
Earlier, when an new leader was introducing Douglas Carswell she | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
talked about people with integrity and honour. Willing to sacrifice | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
positions to do what was right. In our former chairman's speech | :29:03. | :29:05. | |
yesterday Steve Crowther talked about our conference in Doncaster as | :29:06. | :29:13. | |
one of his happiest moments, seeing certain MEPs who looked a lot like | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
Stuart Agnew dancing in the aisles. When we unveiled Mark Reckless. | :29:19. | :29:32. | |
APPLAUSE. I don't honestly believe there is any better representation | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
of real integrity in politics than this man. He deserves huge | :29:37. | :29:39. | |
appreciation from all of us. We are all delighted and assembly member, | :29:40. | :29:44. | |
representing Ukip in Wales, Mark Reckless. APPLAUSE | :29:45. | :30:03. | |
having moved from the Conservatives to Ukip and from Rochester to | :30:04. | :30:13. | |
Cardiff, I'm often asked where the grass is greener. The answer is | :30:14. | :30:26. | |
Wales. Because it rained so much. -- drains so much. I did take an | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
interest in the climate as chairman of the climate change environment | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
and rural affairs committee. For the Welsh assembly. I'm very grateful to | :30:36. | :30:43. | |
Stuart Agnew for his briefings, on which I've relied on many occasions. | :30:44. | :31:02. | |
I was even told by security that there could be protests disrupting | :31:03. | :31:11. | |
our first committee meeting. That was before I decided to hold it at | :31:12. | :31:21. | |
9am. The day after Wales had been any football semifinal. APPLAUSE it | :31:22. | :31:32. | |
has been sunny Bournemouth for most of the conference and that is also | :31:33. | :31:38. | |
the outlook our economy. The economic forecasters at the big | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
banks and universities and Government departments, they forget | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
one thing as they projected doom and gloom, that their negativity was | :31:49. | :31:56. | |
that of just 48%. We have 52% knew things would look up, we would be | :31:57. | :32:03. | |
better off out and was restoring control comes renewed confidence. | :32:04. | :32:15. | |
APPLAUSE so while many broadcasters and their company bosses and the | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
banks wrung their hands and predicted a recession, most people | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
woke up with a smile on their face. None more so than in this room. It | :32:26. | :32:32. | |
is those people who have been going out and spending, retail sales are | :32:33. | :32:38. | |
up 6% on the year. They have been creating jobs with unemployment | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
falling further. They have seen the pound more competitive with foreign | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
income worth more so at last we are beginning to close I was huge | :32:49. | :32:55. | |
overseas deficit. Brexit offers us a huge opportunities. It is no | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
surprise the 52% to knew that already are faster to grasp them. | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
The risks to our economy lie not in a Brexit, but in an incontinent | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
central bank. And in weak productivity. Since I was appointed | :33:12. | :33:18. | |
as our economy spokesman I have repeatedly said that it is time | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
interest rates went up rather than down. | :33:25. | :33:33. | |
APPLAUSE yet almost whatever the economic news the bank of England | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
just cuts interest rates further and Prince more and more money. | :33:38. | :33:42. | |
It is not just the bank of England that lost its way by central banks | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
globally. For almost a generation now. As long ago as 1987 when the | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
stock market fell central banks cut interest rates and added fuel to the | :33:54. | :33:59. | |
booming economy. They get the same in 1998. And again in 2001 when the | :34:00. | :34:06. | |
dot-com boom faulted. As central banks cut rates when stock markets | :34:07. | :34:11. | |
fall but failed to increase them when stock markets rise, the | :34:12. | :34:17. | |
consequences is ever higher house prices and more and more debts | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
loading down our economy. The Bank of England's actions now I fear are | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
making the situation even worse. As well as devastating the finances of | :34:30. | :34:34. | |
pension funds and pensioners. Central banks were at least a | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
responsible for the financial crash of 2007 - eight as the commercial | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
banks they were meant to oversee by a loving growth and depth to out of | :34:43. | :34:52. | |
hand. -- by allowing. We can understand why they began quantitive | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
easing and cutting interest rates. If it was emergency measures to deal | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
with the crisis, but what cannot make sense is continuing those | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
policies for nearly a decade following the crisis. Worse still, | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
the back of England stuck any remainder mindset is responding to | :35:09. | :35:15. | |
Brexit as if it has precipitated another economic crisis yet the | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
reality is the economy is growing and the bank of England is | :35:20. | :35:23. | |
unleashing a further flood of money we simply do not need. As well as | :35:24. | :35:30. | |
retail sales are growing at 6% the Bank of England's own preferred | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
measure of the money supply is expanding by 14% a year. Against | :35:34. | :35:39. | |
that background it is surely time for caution. Let's call a halt to | :35:40. | :35:45. | |
quantitive easing and put interest rates up, not down. | :35:46. | :35:58. | |
APPLAUSE to raise our productivity would be to reward real investment | :35:59. | :36:02. | |
and Channel capital to more productive uses. | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
That is what banking and our financial system is meant to do. | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
Unfortunately, bailing out the banks, printing money and holding | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
interest rates close to zero and has stopped finance working as it | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
should. Instead of seeing businesses with bad business models give way to | :36:21. | :36:26. | |
more productive firms, zombie banks keep over indebted firms on life | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
support. Being just about able to service a loner party presents | :36:33. | :36:39. | |
interest a year is not a good test for where a country should be | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
investing savings. That is holding back growth in productivity and then | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
holding back our standard of living. The same goes with the rules and | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
regulations made by the EU for 40 years with so little regard for our | :36:55. | :37:00. | |
particular needs and interests. Overall, productivity has also been | :37:01. | :37:05. | |
held back by a big increase in a lower skilled work. Letting | :37:06. | :37:10. | |
employers and port as much labour as the light from EU countries far | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
poorer than ours allows the Government to hold down wages for | :37:16. | :37:17. | |
many in this country. APPLAUSE | :37:18. | :37:27. | |
Our party knows that and that is why I think many but far from all voted | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
for us and Junior 23rd and we are now going to be a free and | :37:35. | :37:42. | |
independent country. -- June at. The flip side of what happened in our | :37:43. | :37:48. | |
labour market is by a loving employers to import cheap labour -- | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
allowing. The Government discouraged capital investment. People have | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
voted for change. Outside the EU we can follow a different path to a | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
higher wage, higher productivity economy. Now we really can look | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
beyond Europe to the global horizon. With laws to suit our needs, trade | :38:09. | :38:16. | |
deals beyond Europe, a competitive currency, sensible monetary policy | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
and a belief in Britain, our best days lie ahead. We really are more | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
than a star on somebody else's flight. | :38:26. | :38:29. | |
APPLAUSE -- somebody else's slide. -- flag. | :38:30. | :38:49. | |
Thank you, Mark. One of my proudest moments in the party over recent | :38:50. | :39:03. | |
times was seeing our next Speaker sworn in as an AM in London. I was | :39:04. | :39:12. | |
part of the process of looking at candidates ahead of the assembly | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
elections in London last year and I was absolutely astonished by the | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
quality and capabilities of the man who is going to speak now. He has | :39:21. | :39:25. | |
been invited to deliver a speech on education on behalf of Paul Nuttall, | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
who is our outgoing education spokesman. Or may not be outgoing, | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
who knows. I believe we have got a short video to show before we begin. | :39:38. | :39:47. | |
The non-dropping of the lights. ladies and gentlemen, David Kurten. | :39:48. | :40:55. | |
Thank you very much for your kind introduction. No pressure to have a | :40:56. | :41:03. | |
great speech. Many of you know me as one of two members of the London | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
assembly for Ukip. It has been a fantastic year for Ukip in winning | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
the referendum and also getting a representation in London for the | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
first time for 12 years so I am very happy and proud of that. But as well | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
as being on the London assembly some of you may know I was a teacher, | :41:23. | :41:28. | |
chemistry teacher, for around 20 years before I got into politics and | :41:29. | :41:32. | |
I was the teacher up until March this year. My privileged teaching | :41:33. | :41:41. | |
career has taken me to both state schools and private schools in this | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
country and abroad. One thing I will never forget in my teaching career | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
was when I was teaching in one particular school in Eastern Europe. | :41:50. | :41:55. | |
It was a private school which had some scholarships and the head boy | :41:56. | :41:59. | |
of the school was a scholar from a poorer role in the north of that | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
country. In his graduation speech he said this. I am so grateful for the | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
opportunity that I have had to come to this school. It has opened my | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
eyes the world I never knew existed. And from now on I do not just up the | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
opportunity of coming here but I am going to university in America. But | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
when I go home to my own town, I see my old friends and I talk to them | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
for a while but after a while I feel like I don't have anything to say to | :42:35. | :42:40. | |
them any more. I feel I have moved on to a higher level and I do not | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
have anything in common with my old friends any more. | :42:45. | :42:51. | |
So that was the speech with great joy and also great sadness in it. | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
For that particular boy. He was plucked from his town and given the | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
chance to shine and Excel. I think I'm probably you do as well, the | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
situation is similar in this country. I am sure you know the | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
statistic that 7% of average people get the opportunity to go to private | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
schools and good for them. And this country is known all around the | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
world for being a place of educational excellence. Many times | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
because people think of schools and universities in this country and | :43:28. | :43:30. | |
they think of private schools and they think of the and the culture | :43:31. | :43:38. | |
they have. But what about those who are left behind's private school | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
fees at the moment have reached a level where it is about ?30,000 a | :43:44. | :43:50. | |
year. To go to full boarding school. They are out of reach for the | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
ordinary working person and becoming out of reach even fought | :43:56. | :43:57. | |
middle-class professionals and becoming very much the preserve of | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
the international elite. What's the answer to this? How do we get all of | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
our students, all of our young people from all over the country, | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
whatever their background is, whatever the socioeconomic standing, | :44:13. | :44:16. | |
to have the opportunity to go to institution of excellence? You know | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
the answer. Because we have been saying it for decades, we need to | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
have grammar schools in every town and city, every district and butter, | :44:26. | :44:27. | |
all across this country. APPLAUSE | :44:28. | :44:37. | |
So that everybody can have the chance to excel and shine. | :44:38. | :44:44. | |
And Mrs May has taken on Ukip's policy, very sensible per to do | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
that. As soon as she said that we have an army of so-called experts | :44:50. | :44:53. | |
telling us it will be the most dreadful thing for this country to | :44:54. | :44:56. | |
implement grammar schools. We heard this morning and in Lincolnshire | :44:57. | :45:03. | |
Ukip is asking for extra grammar schools on behalf of parents and | :45:04. | :45:07. | |
voters and some of the Conservative councillors are standing against it, | :45:08. | :45:12. | |
let alone a Labour councillors and Labour politicians. When these | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
experts and politicians talk against this policy what they say and what | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
they do are very often to different things. So we know David Cameron can | :45:22. | :45:29. | |
send his kids to private school, we high matron of equality, Harriet | :45:30. | :45:37. | |
Harman, she went to private school and sends one of her children to a | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
grammar school. Even the Shadow Foreign Secretary, Diane Abbott, | :45:44. | :45:54. | |
BOOING it is funny saying those things in the same sentence. | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
She can send her kids to private school. They might say they do not | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
agree but by their actions you know they do because they want the best | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
thing for decades and good for them. They are doing the best for the kids | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
and I respect that what I do not respect is the hypocrisy. | :46:11. | :46:17. | |
APPLAUSE but why should there be this hypocrisy about academic | :46:18. | :46:29. | |
selection from those who best benefit from it? If someone is | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
incredibly talented as an athlete or sportsman no one would object to | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
looking out for athletic talent at the youngest of ages to have their | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
talents developed and go on to be great sportsman will stop some of | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
our Olympians who have done our country proud testimony to that. | :46:48. | :46:52. | |
Would disagree with looking for musical talent, artistic talent, | :46:53. | :46:56. | |
creative talent, those who want to be wonderful dances? Putting them in | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
special schools for musicians, dancers, artists and so on. Many of | :47:03. | :47:08. | |
the champagne socialist levees have benefited from that kind of | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
education and selection. There would be happy for their ilk and friends | :47:14. | :47:19. | |
to benefit as well. We need to make sure that we get these grammar | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
schools implemented that we hold Theresa May to the fire and make | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
sure that she does implement this policy. It is only Ukip that are | :47:29. | :47:34. | |
wholeheartedly, 100% behind the best schools which are going to do the | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
best for all of our young people, no matter where they come from. But | :47:39. | :47:51. | |
schools are not the only part of our education system, of course. We have | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
to consider tertiary education and universities as well. Never have | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
there been so many people in this country going to university, thanks | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
to Tony Blair's bizarre policy of targeting 50% of students to go to | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
university, whether it is good for them or not. Of course, it is | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
fantastic for some people, that never have they been so many people | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
you leaving university with so much debt, Russell in equipped for the | :48:22. | :48:34. | |
world of work and employment. We have a shortage of doctors and | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
nurses in this country. It was a mad situation when we only have 7500 | :48:40. | :48:46. | |
places for medicine in British universities, but there are 82,000 | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
applicants. Many of those are not suitable. But many of them will be | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
and are denied a place. Similarly for nursing. 20,000 places, but | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
100,000 applicants. Tens of thousands of people who would like a | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
career in nursing, but are not able to have one because they are not the | :49:07. | :49:12. | |
places to train young people in this country to get the skills they need. | :49:13. | :49:20. | |
And so we create a shortage by not planning properly. The result is | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
that we draw the rules, bringing people with skills from other | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
countries to work in this country when we failed to train our own | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
young people. This is a madness which must stop! It doesn't just | :49:33. | :49:46. | |
hurt our own young people, it hurts other countries who are losing their | :49:47. | :49:49. | |
best and brightest people to come here. I don't blame anyone | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
individually for taking the opportunities to come and live in | :49:55. | :49:58. | |
Britain. It is a fantastic place to live. But we are denying people who | :49:59. | :50:04. | |
should be staying in their own homelands to build up their own | :50:05. | :50:07. | |
services, their own economies so that everyone can benefit from the | :50:08. | :50:10. | |
investment is made in their young people. APPLAUSE. But some of the | :50:11. | :50:23. | |
university courses that we have leave people less equipped and less | :50:24. | :50:30. | |
intelligent at the age of 21 van when they went in at 18. It would be | :50:31. | :50:37. | |
fantastic if we did have these extra places for medicine, for physics, | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
for engineering and so on. But when we have courses such as diversity | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
studies you wonder what people are coming out with, and if we are | :50:48. | :50:53. | |
equipped for work. I know, one time before the referendum, I went to a | :50:54. | :50:57. | |
college in north London to talk about our policies on the | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
referendum. Why Brexit is a good thing. And it was time for questions | :51:02. | :51:06. | |
afterwards. One young woman put up her hand, I thought, this is good. | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
And she said I've been looking through your tweets. I thought, very | :51:11. | :51:17. | |
sensible. She said I against political correctness. I said yes. | :51:18. | :51:26. | |
And learned she said, how dare you! How do you not understand the harm | :51:27. | :51:35. | |
of historical hetero normality. I said, well, I'm really not sure what | :51:36. | :51:43. | |
you mean, but... I'll tell you, you know, I know what would be good for | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
you, is that if you left your course and you go and learn how to be a | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
mechanic. Because when you are 21 you have a skill and three years of | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
wages and can stand on your own two feet. Good advice, I thought. But it | :51:58. | :52:11. | |
didn't go down too well. She had to leave and go to her safe space. | :52:12. | :52:24. | |
APPLAUSE sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean to upset her, but there you go. Our | :52:25. | :52:33. | |
education system is overseen by a body called Ofsted. Ofsted, yes, we | :52:34. | :52:40. | |
have a new chief of Ofsted, I think, whose straightaway came out with | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
some of the politicians against grammar schools. The previous chief | :52:45. | :52:52. | |
of Ofsted famous in the last couple of months was resigned after calling | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
the idol of white and inbred white ghetto. What a dreadful thing for a | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
chief inspector of our schools to say about one of our finest | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
counties. If we have people like Ms overseen in our schools, something | :53:09. | :53:16. | |
is wrong. -- like this overseeing our schools. We need a body that | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
will stand up for traditional British values. Values like honesty, | :53:22. | :53:27. | |
integrity, reason, respect for the rule of law, and everything that is | :53:28. | :53:33. | |
good about this country. Not values which are called modern British | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
values, diversity and tolerance. That is tolerant of every culture | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
apart from our own culture will stop we need to make sure that stops. We | :53:43. | :53:54. | |
need to make sure that we get rid of the crazy system of rating schools | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
in terms of value added rather than real exam results. A system that | :54:03. | :54:07. | |
will allow the best schools that get A 's and a stars to come at the | :54:08. | :54:11. | |
bottom of the table because they don't have a value-added. Schools | :54:12. | :54:21. | |
that come highly band the best because of this value-added system. | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
We need a scrutinising body that will tackle the ravages of radical | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
Islamism which is taking hold in some areas of our country and our | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
school system. This will damage all young people in our country if it is | :54:37. | :54:48. | |
not tackled properly. And we need a school system which will allow | :54:49. | :54:54. | |
freedom of thought, what breed a generation of young people who | :54:55. | :54:57. | |
cannot cope with the rigorous debate and need to go to this safe spaces | :54:58. | :55:02. | |
like that young woman I was talking about before. We need to get rid of | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
the strict observance to the crazy agenda of climate change which is | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
going through our science education, our science classes. That is | :55:14. | :55:21. | |
indoctrinating our kids. Indoctrinating our kids into loving | :55:22. | :55:26. | |
these which are moving eco-crucifixes that we find being | :55:27. | :55:31. | |
put up in our most beautiful places. In science people really don't | :55:32. | :55:36. | |
understand the two principals of infrared absorption and body | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
radiation. I'm not being racist, that is a scientific thing. It | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
doesn't get taught, and if people did understand it they would | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
understand that the climate change agenda is not true. It's | :55:51. | :55:53. | |
indoctrinating people into accepting... APPLAUSE. Into | :55:54. | :56:05. | |
accepting a pin-up and Lee of green taxes which will make us play three | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
or four or five times as much for our energy if we simply used gas | :56:11. | :56:16. | |
fired power stations like we always have done. That is going to hurt | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
people coolest people in our country the most. Now, it's only Ukip will | :56:20. | :56:28. | |
even approach these things. Other parties won't even come near to | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
talking about many of the things I'm talking about because they're afraid | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
of being seen to be politically incorrect. But what I'm concerned | :56:38. | :56:41. | |
with is the truth. What I'm concerned with is that our young | :56:42. | :56:46. | |
people have a pride in our country, and know what it is to be good | :56:47. | :56:52. | |
British system is able to stand on their own two feet and know the | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
truth rather than be indoctrinated into mediocrity and political | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
correctness which has ravaged our country over the last four or five | :57:01. | :57:14. | |
decades. It's got to stop. And Ukip, with our policies, with the most | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
sensible policies in every area will allow us once again to build an | :57:19. | :57:23. | |
education system which works for every young person, and an education | :57:24. | :57:28. | |
system which will truly make Britain a great country you very much. | :57:29. | :57:31. | |
APPLAUSE Thank you. APPLAUSE. I think you'll all agree, | :57:32. | :57:57. | |
ladies and gentlemen, there is a man with a bright future in our party. | :57:58. | :58:07. | |
Were going to close now 40, we've had a great session there. Just a | :58:08. | :58:13. | |
few things I want to mention. I feel compelled, as chairman to make this | :58:14. | :58:18. | |
point. As you'll all be aware, because you will have looked past | :58:19. | :58:22. | |
it. We arranged a victory wall to be put up outside the Expo. And it's | :58:23. | :58:28. | |
been a real treat, because every time I've walked past it I've seen | :58:29. | :58:33. | |
people signing and making their mark. A recognition, post conference | :58:34. | :58:38. | |
of the part each of us plays in bringing about British independence. | :58:39. | :58:44. | |
But I'm frankly disgusted at the fact that somebody chose to do face | :58:45. | :58:50. | |
that wall. Trying to scrub out names of people who they have clear | :58:51. | :58:58. | |
personal issues with. That kind of behaviour discredits and dishonours | :58:59. | :59:01. | |
not those people, but the whole party. And I want as oil to be very | :59:02. | :59:09. | |
clear, as a party here, that we are going to look at the security | :59:10. | :59:13. | |
cameras covering that room. We are going to short shrift for whoever | :59:14. | :59:18. | |
was responsible for that. That, ladies and gentlemen, is not what we | :59:19. | :59:35. | |
do. APPLAUSE. Now, we're going to close for a brief time for lunch, | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
voting cards for members wishing to participate... TV! T. I'm enjoying | :59:40. | :59:49. | |
the day so much I don't want it to end. Surely we can do lunch again? | :59:50. | :59:55. | |
We are going to be breaking for tea. We will have motions and voting | :59:56. | :00:01. | |
cards are available in the lobby. Go down and pick them up. I encourage | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
everybody, I want a roomful of people here when conference closes. | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
We'll be hearing from a representative of why I and our | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
closing speech from our new leader, Diane James before listening to | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
Ukip's first conference choir. Many of you have heard it rehearse | :00:24. | :00:28. | |
already. None of you have heard it rehearsed with me involved! Enjoy | :00:29. | :00:35. | |
the these 15 minutes. This 15 minute tea broke. If you put yourself | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
forward as a composer, second or arguing against any of the emotions | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
you are going to be called upon. You will be participating in this next | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
session. Enjoy your tea. We'll see you in 20 minutes. | :00:49. | :01:26. | |
APPLAUSE No pressure then. I just wanted to | :01:27. | :01:44. | |
point this out. I contemplated ace-king for Elton | :01:45. | :01:54. | |
John's song, I'm Still Standing to be played. And then I thought, I Get | :01:55. | :02:04. | |
Knocked Down, I Get Up Again. I | :02:05. | :02:05. |