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21st-century Britain. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
A country where traditional church attendance is plummeting. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
Society is becoming so saturated in secularism, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Christianity is now becoming like a second-class subject. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
If you put a leaflet through the door | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
saying there was going to be a fight on Monday, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
everybody would turn up. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
But if there's the word "church" or "holy"...straight away, no. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
But it wasn't always the case. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
The 19th century was a golden age for Christianity, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
and Britain exported that faith, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
despatching missionaries across the world, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
to places where today, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
belief is booming. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Jesus is walking among you all. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
-That we should be saved! -Amen. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Now, reversing those journeys, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
three idealistic Christians are coming here on their own missions. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
I have come with a lot of hope and a lot of faith. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
But is modern Britain ready for them? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
-If you believe God, something can happen. -Moses could be standing there himself, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
and I still don't think they would go into a church. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
The atmosphere was very tense. There was no peace about it. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
And can their distinctive missionary styles | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
rejuvenate failing church communities? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
He's hoping to fill a church, but people just aren't interested. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
Great missionary work needs to be done. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
In Mumbai, India, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Kshama Jayaraj runs a church that is thriving. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
But will her animated form of worship | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
help fill the empty pews | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
in Shankill, Belfast? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Heavenly Father, each day is a gift from you. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
Northern Ireland was birthplace to missionary Amy Carmichael, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
who worked in India for 50 years, helping vulnerable young children. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
Kshama wants to explore Amy's remarkable life story, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
to help fulfil her own UK mission. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Looking at this place, being where Amy Carmichael grew up, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
I am so encouraged and inspired by this visit over here. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
But are the people ready for her message? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
God is loving and kind. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
He loves everyone, he loves you. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
I don't believe in God. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
And can she help break down the old barriers of prejudice? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
Nobody is going to ask whether you are A group or B group. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
They know we're not from there. They're going to start something. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Christianity reached India in 52 AD, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
when Thomas the Apostle brought it to the state of Kerala. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
It is now India's third largest religion, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
with 24 million followers. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
In Mumbai, the House of Prayer is a Christian church, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
founded by 42-year-old teacher, Kshama Jayaraj, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
and her husband, Thomas. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
-Heavenly Father, I pray, your Grace. -Yes, Lord. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
Here, they mix pop music and dance with prayer, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
and it's proving a hit with teenagers. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
The house caters to a lot of young people. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
We began with two and what I see today is 100. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
MUSIC PLAYS | 0:03:11 | 0:03:16 | |
People need to be saved. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
They need to be told there is a Saviour. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
For me, preaching the gospel is not an option. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
It is a command. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
She's a spiritual mother, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
she's a friend, she's a sister. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
She comes, when at the point of time we need her, she is there. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
She's got this ability of connecting to people | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
of different age groups, different cultures, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
so there is no barrier there. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
Kshama wants to bring some of her successful ideas | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
she's using in the House of Prayer, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
to Belfast, home of her heroine, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
inspirational missionary Amy Carmichael. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Belfast has changed a lot | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
since Amy started her missionary work here in the mid-1880s. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
It's still a city full of churches, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
but although religion is important culturally, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
church attendance is at an all-time low. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
God answers prayer, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
but his answer can be one of three - | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
No, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
slow, or go. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Kshama will base herself at the Townsend Street Presbyterian Church | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
in the Shankill area, where Amy first began her work. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
The minister at the church is Reverend Jack Lamb, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
who has been preaching here for 16 years. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
I'm so looking forward to meeting Kshama, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
and I am excited about what might happen | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
during the next couple of weeks. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:49 | |
I'm quite sure she's in for a culture shock. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
There's a big difference between Mumbai and the Shankill Road. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Before leaving India, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
Kshama is taking a trip to the southern province of Tamil Nadu, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
to visit the legacy of Amy Carmichael. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
A devout Presbyterian from a wealthy Irish family, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
28-year-old Amy arrived in India in 1895. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
In 1901, she founded the Dohnavur Fellowship | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
to care for orphaned or abused children. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
Today, there are 145 children in the Dohnavur community, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
which has a hospital and a school. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Amy is celebrated in India as a social reformer, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
due to her pioneering work | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
protecting vulnerable young Indian girls. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
Her biggest battle was against the Hindu practice of devadasi, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
where young girls were given away by their families, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
to serve in Hindu temples. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
For many, this meant a life of prostitution and abuse. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Amy rescued hundreds of these children | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and, thanks in part to her efforts, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
the practice of devadasi is now outlawed. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Classroom is going on here. Which subject? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
I admire Amy Carmichael, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
because she got into one of the most difficult areas | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
of saving little girls | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
and she went into the thick of the battle, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
and I admire Amy Carmichael for her boldness. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Thank you, dear. Thank you. Thank you. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Two of the children she rescued in her later years | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
are Nessa and Sura, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
who still live at Dohnavur. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
I adored her. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
Even hero-worshipped her as I grew up. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
She's such a lovely, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
perfect mother | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
and embraced everyone who came to her. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
She would just cuddle everyone. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
She said that our aim should be | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
to lead people to Christ. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
That should be our motive always. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Amy remained in India for 56 years | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
until her death in 1951, aged 83. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
Her grave is marked by a stone birdbath | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
with the simple inscription, "Amma", meaning "mother", | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
the name given to her by the children. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I wouldn't believe that somebody could even want a grave like this, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
with just a birdbath and a tree. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
This is the first time I have seen a grave like this. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
I've not even done 2% of what Amy has done, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
but this visit has put something in my heart. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Now, Kshama is embarking on her own mission. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
She's going to Northern Ireland, home of Amy Carmichael. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
For Kshama, this is a big step, | 0:07:58 | 0:07:59 | |
as it will be her first visit to the UK. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
It takes courage and risks to travel. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Going to a strange place, a different culture, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
and you've got to go and convince them that I am your friend. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
It's a challenge and Amy had that in her. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
In Belfast, she wants to follow Amy's example | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
and help the youngest members of the community. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Just as Amy Carmichael was a blessing to the children and the youth, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
I want to go to Belfast to talk to the youth, to talk to the children. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
Yes, there are clashes over there, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
but whether Catholics or Protestants, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
they all need a personal relationship with Jesus. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-OK. -Praise the Lord. -Praise the Lord. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Belfast. Capital of Northern Ireland. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
It's a city with a rich commercial and industrial heritage, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
and the past has left its mark on the landscape. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
I don't know, but I get this feeling | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
that it is a very homely place, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
pleasant, very attractive, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
with old architecture... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
But I like this place. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
Kshama's first impressions might be favourable, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
but behind the facades and shops, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
there remain lingering religious resentments. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
After Irish independence in 1921, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
six counties in the North remained within the UK. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
There has been tension since between Protestants, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
loyal to Britain, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
and the Irish nationalist Catholics. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
Although religious divisions persist, | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
the numbers of people actually going to church is in steep decline. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
Kshama hopes to ignite the faith in the younger generation, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
who represent the future. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
During her visit, she will be staying with Elizabeth McClean, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
who attends Townsend Church, where Kshama is going to be based. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
-Nice to see you, you're welcome. -Thank you. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
I'm sure you're quite tired after all your travelling? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
-Tired, but I'm happy. -Good, good. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
We'll just have a relaxing evening. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
'My mission is going to be challenging. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
'It's going to be one day at a time.' | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
Tomorrow we start, so I have a lot of excitement, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
just waiting for what's in store for me in Belfast. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
'And I am grateful to God for the example of Amy Carmichael.' | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
The Townsend Presbyterian Church | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
is in the Shankill area, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
where Amy first began her missionary work. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
It's a beautiful church. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
"Glory to God in the highest." | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
And on earth, peace, goodwill towards men. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-Good morning. -Kshama! | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
-I have been waiting so long for this. -I have been waiting... | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
-The day has arrived. I hope that you have a wonderful time with us. -Yes. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:06 | |
There are about 40 churches, all Protestant, in this area. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
In Amy's time, they were full. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Today, just 15% of people attend a service once a month, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
and an increasingly ageing congregation do. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
60 years ago, coming to church on a Sunday | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
would have been an opportunity for an evening out or a morning out | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
as well as coming to worship God. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Whereas nowadays, you can stay in bed, | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
get up and watch the television... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
there are so many other activities, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
to take away the attention of people. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
The lady, whose name is Kshama, has arrived, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
and I would like, right at the outset of this service, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
to find out a bit more about Kshama for myself. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Kshama, could you be brave enough to come and join me | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
for a minute or two? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
Four generations ago, my great grandfather, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:59 | |
who was the son of a temple priest, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
went to one of the holy rivers of India, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
and there was a missionary sitting on the river bank, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
and that is why today my family knows the Lord Jesus, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:15 | |
and I believe the same Jesus is going to fill every chair | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
in Townsend Presbyterian with young people, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
and people who need to know him. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
So I have come with a lot of hope and a lot of faith. Thank you. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:30 | |
CONGREGATION SING | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
There weren't many people in the church, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
and I do feel that if young people got into the church today, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:44 | |
we would have to re-evaluate our service. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
It couldn't be like the one it was today. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
It was very formal today. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Probably, we'd have to introduce some contemporary songs, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
some loud music, some jumpy music... just get them in. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
-It was lovely, you speaking this morning. -Thank you so much. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
-You were lovely. You got very emotional, but you were lovely. -I'm sorry. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-No, don't be sorry! -I couldn't control myself. -It was very meaningful. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Belfast's recent history has been a turbulent one. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
In the early 1970s, sectarian tension erupted into violence. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
Three decades of vicious conflict ensued, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
involving republican and loyalist paramilitaries, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
and the British Army. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
These have been momentous years for the people in Belfast. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
From over 30 years of conflict, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
we are now, please God, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
coming into a time where we are going to see | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
far less violence, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
and we are going to see a future in which people will work together, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
and the future generations will not have the pains | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and the sorrows of the past. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
So you're on the road which links the two areas? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Yes. Townsend Street links the loyalist Shankill area | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
with the nationalist Falls area. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Despite the ceasefire agreement in 1997, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
there are still barriers in parts of Belfast, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
separating Protestant and Catholic communities. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
They are known as peace walls. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
This looks like a war zone, to be honest, Reverend Jack. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Sadly, you are quite right in describing it that way. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
I cannot imagine what it must be like to be a child, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
growing up in one of the houses just opposite this wall and looking at it | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
and asking your mum or dad, "What's on the other side of the wall?" | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
I say to myself, the Berlin Wall's come down, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
and yet this fence is still here. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
But was there so much need for it to be...? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
Well, there was a felt need. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
I long for the day when this fence comes down. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
The wall was put up | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
to prevent violence on the borders between the two communities. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Even today, every evening the gates giving access are closed. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
Union flags mark out the fiercely Protestant Shankill area. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
In a land where there were so many missionaries, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
I wouldn't expect a division like this. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Catholics and Protestants are names given by people, not by Jesus. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
It's not mentioned in the Bible at all. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
I just hope that this will break down these dividing walls, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
and people will come together under the name Jesus. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
And not under any other name. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Kshama's keen to get going with her mission, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
to get the young people of Belfast back into church. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
And she's using her own secret weapon. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
These puppets have come from India. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
They had different names back in Bombay, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
but we've renamed them Annie and Johnny. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
The puppets are going to become friends | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
with the little children in Belfast. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
Whose story is in the Bible? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
-Jesus. -Jesus. -Loves you. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
Back in India, Kshama's puppets are a big hit with young children. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
-Jesus loves you so much. -So much. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
-All so much. -So much. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
But will they have the same effect on the streets of Belfast? | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I have come to tell you a story that Jesus loves you. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Have you heard of that? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
I heard it in Sunday school. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
Understood the power of Jesus Christ? | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
It was fun just to be with them. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
What I saw is that children all over the world are the same. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
They long for a hug, they long for a kiss, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
they long for the love of God. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:02 | |
Who's going to wear this? Ah! Come! | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
To engage with the older children, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Kshama is getting them to act out stories about Jesus. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
All you have to do is ask Jesus to come into your heart. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Are you ready to do that? | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
But Kshama is particularly keen to reach out | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
to the teenage members of the local community. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
15-year-old Curtis is just the sort of teenager | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
she wants to bring into the church. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
Hello, Curtis. Good morning. How are you? | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Two years ago, he was expelled from school. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
They thought I always messed about. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
They kept blaming me for stuff that I didn't do. So I just went mad. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
-So which year did you drop out of school? -Fourth year. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
And since then, what have you been doing? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Nothing. Sitting in the house. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
Kshama wants to persuade Curtis | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
that the Bible can help him get back on track. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
You were wondering, how could a book help you to be successful? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:01 | |
Curtis, I think it will start making a difference. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
-Do you have a Bible with you? -No. -Can I get one for you? -No. -Any time? | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
-Because if you start... -Can't read. I'll not be able to read the Bible. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
It is a very easy one. No? Then I will read it for you. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
God is loving and kind. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
He loves everyone, he loves you. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
He wants you to grow up to be happy and strong. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
It makes God sad when you get hurt or things go wrong. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
If you feel that things have gone wrong, Curtis, in your life, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
I'm going to begin to pray for you, and things are going to change. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Nothing went wrong, it's all right. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
This Sunday evening, I am going to speak | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
at the Townsend Presbyterian church. 7pm. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
-I'll not be up at that time. -My invitation to you... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
7pm to 8pm. Just one hour. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
I don't believe in God. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
But He believes in you. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Kshama's enthusiasm for her faith | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
doesn't seem to be translating that well. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
I think she really does believe in God and all, but I don't. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
She thinks that I was meant to. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
But I don't. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
I believe that the world was man-made. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Because how can he just throw a lot of houses down? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
Road, water, everything. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
How could a person who is not alive going to make stuff like this? | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Never. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
Like Curtis, many teens in the UK | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
feel Christianity has no relevance to their everyday lives. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
They have other things to worry about, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
such as education, relationships and community. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
Some have even greater concerns. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
The UK has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in Western Europe | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
and in Belfast, teenagers are responsible for nearly one in 12 births. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:49 | |
To understand more, Kshama has arranged to meet 17-year-old Vicky | 0:19:49 | 0:19:55 | |
and her son, Joshua. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
Well, hello! | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
He is one year old! | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
You were probably how old when you...? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
-I was 15 when I got pregnant. -OK. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
Are there many people you know who are teenagers and have little babies? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:18 | |
There is quite a few people that have babies as teenagers, yeah. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
I had a certain group of friends at school | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
and a couple of them have got babies now, yeah. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
The school did not educate you all before, like when you were 13, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
14, and tell you that things could happen | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
and that you needed to be wise and take precautions? | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
There was an optional sex education class, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
but my mum didn't allow me to take it. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
-Oh. -So... | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
-And do you wish you had taken it? -And now we've got Joshua. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
We've got Joshua! | 0:20:49 | 0:20:50 | |
How did you manage going to school and taking care of all your needs? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
It was difficult trying to get up in the mornings to go to school | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
because I had him inside me as well. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Difficult staying in school | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
because I had really bad morning sickness and everything. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
I left school quite a bit. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
Tell me something about your family, Vicky. Who do you stay with? | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
I've basically not got a lot of family over here | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
because they all live in Manchester now. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
That's quite difficult, because we don't see my mum any more. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
-She's moved to Canada. -Oh. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
It was with the young girls of Shankill | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
that a teenage Amy Carmichael started her missionary work. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
On the walls of one of the old mills, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
Kshama has found a tribute to Amy. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
One can give without loving, but one cannot love without giving. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
In the late 1800s, Belfast was the world's biggest linen producer, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
employing thousands of girls in the local mills. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
Working long hours for little pay, they were poor and badly educated. | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Amy held Sunday morning classes to help them improve their lives. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
I've read in Amy Carmichael's biography about the shawlies, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
the mill workers, the girls with the shawls. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Look at her. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:17 | |
She's a simple girl, made to work like an adult, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
when she hasn't yet reached adulthood. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
Somewhere, there's a lost childhood in that face. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Many of the mill girls felt | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
they weren't dressed smartly enough for formal church services. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Amy wanted to do something to help them. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
Still only 22 years old, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
she purchased derelict land with money given to her | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
by a wealthy family friend and three months later, in January 1889, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
a building was officially opened for the mill workers to worship in. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
It was called the Welcome Hall and it's still a working church today. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
The current minister is Pastor Jonathan Clarke. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
Very pleased to meet you, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
lovely to have you here at the Welcome Evangelical church. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
The building has been modernised over the years. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
The original Welcome Hall had a tin roof. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
It used to be called the Tin Tabernacle | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
back in Amy Carmichael's day. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Some of these girls would have been going to work at 14 years of age | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
and they would have been working maybe 12 hours a day, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
14 hours a day, and they worked in very poor conditions. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
They would have worked maybe without shoes on their feet. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Amy had a real social conscience. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
-She had a wonderful empathy for people. -Empathy... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Yes, there was a spiritual attachment. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
Yes, she had her prayer meetings, she had her evangelistic meetings, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
but she also had the social, practical context as well to the work. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:43 | |
She had sewing classes, where she would have learnt girls how to sew. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
-Right here in this place? -Yeah, in this place. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
She actually had education nights | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
where she learnt some of these girls how to read and write. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
She didn't ever think about marriage, do you know? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
I think she considered it but then she realised that, you know... | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
-Her call was different. -Her call was different. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
She was to live the life of a single woman. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
I've come to Belfast to retrace the steps of this lovely missionary. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:10 | |
Even my being here has spoken to me a lot, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
that God and his grace will help me raise up many Amy Carmichaels | 0:24:13 | 0:24:19 | |
to go from here, to bring the gospel to many people. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
Amy Carmichael's secret was to tailor her Christianity | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
to the needs of the congregation. Kshama wants to do this shame. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
She has ideas about how to make Reverend Jack's church | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
more appealing to youngsters. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
-I want them to come to a contemporary service. -Using the more modern hymns? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
-Modern hymns. -I'm happy with that. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
It will be a little noisy | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
but probably more attractive for the youngsters. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
OK, well, let's give it a go! | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
Maybe what we could do, Kshama, is we could get you to preach. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
-How about getting you to preach this Sunday evening? -Oh, I'd love that. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
For many years, Reverend Jack's congregation has been declining. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
Today, sometimes as few as 25 will attend a service. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:06 | |
It is a tiny congregation | 0:25:06 | 0:25:07 | |
when you consider that this building would still seat 1,100 people | 0:25:07 | 0:25:12 | |
and in the 1950s, it was seating 1,100 people. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
The other thing we've got to face up to is the dramatic decline | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
in the available numbers of people in the Shankill area, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
because during the '50s, the population of this area | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
would have been topping 79,000 in the Shankill area. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
Now, it's down to something like 29,000, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
so we've got a smaller number of people to draw on. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Kshama wants to reverse the trend | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
of Reverend Jack's falling attendance and the next day, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
she's back on the street to drum up support for her first church service. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
Hi, Darcy! | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
I need girls to wear flowers, girls to give out flowers. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
She's brought Jack along to help. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
A young service with young people... | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Kshama is truly a breath of fresh air. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I never dreamt that she would be so full of enthusiasm. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
In fact, she's a whirlwind of energy and dynamism. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I think this is actually a challenge to myself. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
Maybe I should be taking a leaf out of Kshama's book | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
and being a bit more upfront, but more public. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
I don't feel that I have won them over yet. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
I am worried that the ones who said they'd come might just probably have | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
something more interesting to do, but I hope and I pray that some will. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
In India, Kshama's church has focused on a more relaxed approach | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
to bring in a younger congregation. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
It's a tactic that has been hugely successful. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
She's hoping this more approachable style | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
will also appeal to the young in Shankill. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
But like the rest of the UK, Shankill on a Sunday | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
is no longer just about church. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
From sport to car boot sales, | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
there are many other activities competing for people's time. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
But Kshama's enthusiasm for her mission has had the desired effect. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
A number of the children she met on the streets have turned up | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
-and are getting involved. -Thank you very much. -Lovely! | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
-Thank you. -Oh, wow! -Thank you so much. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:35 | |
Amy Carmichael thought the church should embrace everyone | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
and Kshama's using Amy's "come one, come all" approach | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
to make people feel at home. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Welcome, each and every one of you. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Why don't you look your neighbour in the eye and say, "I welcome you." | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Shake hands with them and say, "Well, good you came to church." | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
To keep the younger children involved, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
Kshama's made some flags for them to wave and introduced new songs. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
It's an idea she's brought from her own church in India. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
# So good | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
# God is so good | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
# God is so good | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
# He's so good to me... | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
The church isn't full, but it's a start. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
# Jesus Christ said | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
# He took my sin | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
# He's so good to me. # | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
We'll give a hand to Jesus. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:33 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Well, I was thrilled that so many children came along | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
because Kshama had worked so hard, knocking doors, talking to children, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
running round the estate and we must have had easily 20 children | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
in that church this evening and 20 children who have never, | 0:28:50 | 0:28:54 | |
some of them, been in that church building at all before. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
So that was tremendous. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
Reverend Jack might be pleased with the numbers, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
but Kshama is disappointed more teenagers didn't come. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
Well, there were, if I actually count on my fingers, four teenagers. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
I thought it would be easier. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
I thought I'd get this congregation of people | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
who would the next Sunday, go and get youth, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
and I'd be talking to 65 to 75 youth who would say, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
"Wow, terrific!" | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
And I really thought it would be easy. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
So far, Kshama's mission hasn't gone as well as she'd hoped. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
Looking for strength and inspiration from her heroine, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
she's come to Millisle, 20 miles east of Belfast. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
It's the place where Amy lived as a child. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
-Good morning, sir. -Good morning. -I'm Kshama. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
I need to know, where is the church where Amy Carmichael was...? | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
-Over there. -Oh, right there. OK. Thank you. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:03 | |
Shore Road... | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
Amy was born here in 1867, the eldest of seven children. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
Her father, David, was a wealthy mill owner | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
and a great philanthropist. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
The family built the first schoolhouse | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
used by the town's children and the adult mill workers. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
And that's the church over there, where David Carmichael | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
and his family, that is Amy's dad, would worship every Sunday - | 0:30:31 | 0:30:37 | |
the Millisle and Ballycopeland Presbyterian Church. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
I'm sure Amy Carmichael must have come to collect seashells. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
She must have heard the sound of the sea. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
And that's what made her a lover of nature. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
It makes me relive how she must have spent her childhood, | 0:30:53 | 0:31:00 | |
just running along the beach with the wind in her hair, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
with the gulls in the sky. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
Although Amy's home has long since gone, a family house still stands. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:11 | |
This is Amy's uncle's house. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Probably, she played around in this garden. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
When their business could no longer compete with flour mills in America, | 0:31:20 | 0:31:25 | |
the Carmichael family sold up and in 1888, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
moved to Belfast to start a new enterprise. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
Coming to Millisle has given Kshama a chance to reflect | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
on how her mission is going. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
Things have been tough. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
It's not been exactly how I expected it to go or I wanted it to go. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
But I've moved on and just looking at this place and being here, | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
where Amy Carmichael grew up, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
I am so encouraged and inspired by this visit over here. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
My mission in Belfast is going to continue | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
with greater hope and enthusiasm. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
# She slipped into the night and she was gone... # | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
Kshama's halfway through her time in Belfast. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
With renewed energy, she's continuing her mission | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
to introduce more teenagers to Christianity. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
She's been invited to a youth centre in the Shankill, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
which offers a safe place for youngsters to hang out. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
Ruth Pettigrew left her job as deaconess at the Townsend Street Church to run the centre. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:33 | |
I needed to come out of the church and go into community, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
because for a lot of people here, the churches are irrelevant. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
They perceived the churches as not caring, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
the church doesn't understand, the church doesn't really want them, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
and we could have all kinds of programs | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
but they just weren't coming in. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:51 | |
Ruth is a Christian but she doesn't believe in preaching to the kids who come to her centre. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:58 | |
She's advised Kshama that she must first win their trust | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
before she discusses her faith with them. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
I have hardly seen 16, 17, 18 around, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
but I saw them around Ruth today at the community centre. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
I like the way people connect to her. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
A bunch of boys and said "Hi, Ruth," | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
and they started talking to her. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
Hi, boys, welcome. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Kshama has taken Ruth's advice. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
Instead of preaching, she's engaging the boys | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
by introducing them to Indian cookery. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
-Can you cut the garlic? -Me? -Yeah, so I'll fry... | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
In the UK, 45% of 16 to 24-year-olds have never attended church. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
-The seeds are spicy? -The seeds are VERY spicy. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
-I'll eat that in one bite, no sweat. -Go for it. -Oh, I can't. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
-No, don't! -You do it. -No, no, no. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
-You go half and I'll go half. -No, no, I'm not going half! | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
What about I go half and you go half? | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
-No, it's very spicy. Don't try it. -I'll eat that bit, right? | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
I don't know why he's doing this. Give him sugar in his mouth. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
Holy BLEEP! | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
-Is that warm? -HE MUMBLES | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
Please drink water! | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
I am happy. I'm just so happy and delighted. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
My mission is to tell young boys and young girls that Jesus loves them | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
in any which way I can connect. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
And it's not me just trying to connect to give the gospel, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
it's making good friends. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
Do you not eat them with rice or chips, no? | 0:34:25 | 0:34:27 | |
-Chips? -Rice. -Rice and curry. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Kshama's experience at the youth centre has taught her | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
that she needs to understand and connect more with the community | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
before offering spiritual help, | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
just like Amy Carmichael did at her mission in southern India. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
She's come to the home of teenage mum, Vicky, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
to see if there's anything she can do to help. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
This time, she's also meeting 16-year-old Ben, Joshua's father. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:55 | |
Ben, when you found out that | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
you were going to get a little baby on its way, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
what were your emotions and what did you go through? | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
Well, at first it was more a shock. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
We'd been arguing a lot, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
so we'd stopped talking for quite a while | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
then when he came along, that was it. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
Started talking again. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Do you want some time where both of you go out? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
I can take care of him. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
-I'll be more than happy babysitting your young one. -Yeah. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:36 | |
No, I'm not going to lift them. You play with this one. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
I feel as if here is a young girl who has lost her youth. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
She was made into a mother, she was made into a caregiver | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
when she's too young for it. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
We can't point a finger at any three of them. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
We have to extend hands of help and hands of compassion. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:59 | |
Kshama wants to show Vicky and Ben | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
that there's more to Christianity than church services | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
and has offered them respite from their day-to-day lives. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
She's treating the teenagers to a day out. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
She'll be responsible for looking after Joshua so they can spend time together. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
Some people will take time to know Jesus | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
but your practical help will be that one thing which will draw them. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
You may be the only gospel some people will ever read. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
They may not read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but when they see you, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
they can see Christ. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
With Kshama looking after their baby, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
Ben and Vicky have been able to spend quality time together. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
We'd never like be able to hold hands and walk together or anything | 0:36:45 | 0:36:49 | |
-and we are doing it now, so it's really weird. -And she's taking him away. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
Come back! | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
But like Amy Carmichael, in India, | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
the practical help goes hand-in-hand with the spiritual | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
and Kshama has a proposition. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Ben and Vicky, I've been praying for Joshua | 0:37:05 | 0:37:10 | |
and also thinking that if it's fine with you all, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
can we just bless Joshua | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
and bless him for the future and all that God has plans for him? | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
-I don't mind. -I think it's quite good. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
We could have it in the Townsend Street Church, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
because that's the place I know and I could take permission, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
so that we could have your friends or your family | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
and people whom we love who care for him. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
I think it's a great idea. It would be really nice. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
Yeah, I think it's a really good idea to get him blessed. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
It's nothing that we've ever thought of, really, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
but we did think about getting him christened | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
and this isn't getting him christened | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
but it's like getting christened. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
She said, like, it's not Catholic or Protestant, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
so that's OK because we're not religious people, are we? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
I'm not a very churchy person. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:04 | |
-Definitely not. -Definitely not. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
The very fact that they both said yes is a beautiful beginning | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
where Christ is invited into their home. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
Kshama's approach of going out into the community | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
to introduce people to the church is directly inspired | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
by the work of the Victorian missionaries. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
Amy Carmichael was an advocate of this approach. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
In India, she worked with a group of female Christians, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
known as the Starry Cluster. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
They would travel for days at a time to reach remote villages | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
to offer help and spread the word. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
In Belfast, Reverend Jack is enthusiastic about this approach. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
I think that one of the key things that Kshama has taught us is the importance of listening, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:51 | |
especially listening to young people, | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
because they're at the stage in their lives where they feel misunderstood. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
They feel that nobody cares sometimes, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
nobody understands what they're thinking and how they're feeling. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
Kshama has brought home | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
that listening is as important as talking. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
The reminders of Northern Ireland's turbulent history | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
are to be found in the murals which adorn Belfast's walls. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
Many of them honour paramilitary figures killed during the Troubles. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
I see so many murals and they all have a message, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
but some of them have these soldiers in black | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
and sometimes the message is quite unnerving. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Believe it or not, | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 | |
the ones that you see now are a lot more positive than they used to be. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
-They're not about religion, it's about many other things. -Oh, yeah. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
The same murals are in the nationalist area? | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
-Same...? -I mean, same kind? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:00 | |
Same kind of thing, just to sort of intimidate people and go, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
"Be very afraid." | 0:40:05 | 0:40:06 | |
To further her mission, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:09 | |
Kshama plans to paint a mural with a more positive message. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
-I want to get a message of peace across. -OK. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
The message of the love of Christ and the peace of Christ on this | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
big wall with colours, with writing | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
and so whoever passes by can see it. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
Sure! But what are you going to put on? | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-You need to be careful in how you portray this, OK? -OK. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
So you need to choose something that's going to be eye-catching, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
get the message across but without preaching at them. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:44 | |
Share the word of God, tell the truth, but don't preach at them. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
A peace mural might seem a small thing, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
but Kshama's taken Amy Carmichael's philosophy as her inspiration. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
She was only a girl of 17. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
We find her on her own initiative | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
visiting the streets behind College Gardens on Sunday afternoons, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:09 | |
gathering children around her and bringing them | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
back to her own home for a children's meeting. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
I have been inspired by what Amy Carmichael started. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:19 | |
She started with very simple things. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
She didn't start with a great pompous meeting, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
she began with prayer and she began with children. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
She started small and she ended big. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
So we start simple, we start small, and God gives us the victory. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:35 | |
Amy also believed you should care for people | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
regardless of their background. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
She fought against the caste system in India | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
by treating everyone as equal. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Kshama wants to do the same in Belfast | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
by bringing different sides of the community together. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
She's keen to get youngsters from all sides of the divide | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
to help paint her mural. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
For the first time since she's been in Belfast, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Kshama is taking a trip to one of the predominantly Catholic parts of the city. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
The Falls Road is less than a mile away from the Shankill, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:10 | |
but for many, it's a world apart. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
To be on the Nationalist side, for me, doesn't make any difference. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
The same people, same smiles, same Northern Irish accent | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
only, of course, a wee bit of difference. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
The placards and the nameplates are in the Irish language also. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
Human beings are the same. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
It's only ideologies and philosophies that divide | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
and men that divide people from each other. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
# In the name of love... # | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
Despite the wall that divides them, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
the pressures and fears that teenage girls face here | 0:42:40 | 0:42:44 | |
are much the same as those of girls from the Shankill. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Kshama is visiting the Falls Women's Centre, | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
which runs classes in parenting and sexual health. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
First of all, genital warts. I'll just read yous all the facts. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
They're caused by a virus | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
and it's easily passed from one person to another by sexual contact. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
-Can babies not get it? -I'm going to pass round the last one now, which is syphilis. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
It can harm the bones and the nervous system | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
and it will eventually lead to death. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
Having kept preaching under wraps | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
with the boys at the Shankill Youth Centre, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
here, Kshama can't resist giving spiritual advice to the girls. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
Hi, girls. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:21 | |
What I want to say after I had this wonderful session with you all | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
is that God made one man for one woman. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:29 | |
I'm not saying don't have fun, you know. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Sex is lovely when there is marriage, | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
when there is commitment, when there is faithfulness. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
How much His heart will break if you mess up your lives. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:43:41 | 0:43:43 | |
Did you get offended with what I shared with you all? | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
Some of the things you said | 0:43:48 | 0:43:50 | |
about God making one guy for one girl was good, | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
but not about the only having one sexual partner | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
for the rest of your life. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
I think that would be a bit hard to do. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
Kshama may seem out of step with the girls' way of life, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:07 | |
but she wants them to join her when she paints her mural. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
-You have to come to the Townsend. -Where's that? | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 | |
Outreach, on the Shankill. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:16 | |
-Outreach centre. Is it fine with you? -Um... | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
It's just us and we're in a Protestant place, like, | 0:44:23 | 0:44:27 | |
but we're Catholics. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:28 | |
But that's fine, that's perfectly fine. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
Nobody is going to ask whether you are A group or B group. | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
No, the people know. They know. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:36 | |
They know by our names and the way we talk. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:39 | |
And they'll know that we are Catholics. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:41 | |
But you talk the same way as they talk. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
Everybody knows what Catholics and what Protestants are, so... | 0:44:43 | 0:44:49 | |
We never be in the Shankill Road or nothing, | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
so like, they know that we're not from there | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
because they've never, ever seen us over there, | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
so they're obviously going to start something. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:57 | |
Kshama hopes the girls will conquer their fears | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
and visit the Shankill for the first time, | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
but she's realising how deep the divisions run. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:06 | |
Before I came to Belfast, I thought, | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
I'm going to one united country, one united city. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
When I came here, I was very surprised. | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
It was youngsters divided, children divided, adults divided | 0:45:14 | 0:45:18 | |
into two groups on the basis of politics, religion and nationality. | 0:45:18 | 0:45:23 | |
So many barriers have to be just broken down, | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
just to be friends with them. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
Amy Carmichael had her own barriers to break down. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:35 | |
She would often come into conflict with the local Hindu community | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
and in 1914, faced imprisonment when accused of kidnapping a child | 0:45:39 | 0:45:43 | |
she was trying to rescue. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:45 | |
But she worked hard to be accepted | 0:45:45 | 0:45:47 | |
and found ingenious ways to blend in. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:50 | |
She would put coffee on her arms | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
to darken her fair skin | 0:45:54 | 0:45:56 | |
and she would wear a sari | 0:45:56 | 0:45:59 | |
so that the villagers would identify with her. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
And if she could be so bold in those days, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:06 | |
I think I could wear a tracksuit and start heeding my mural. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
The mural will be painted on one of the community centre walls. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
Yeah, yeah, that's good. Taking shape as it goes. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
The occasion is to be a celebration for the community | 0:46:21 | 0:46:23 | |
and a lot has to be done. | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
No, you're right coming down like this. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:27 | |
It's four o'clock and I'm getting worried, | 0:46:27 | 0:46:30 | |
because the buntings aren't up, the balloons aren't up, | 0:46:30 | 0:46:32 | |
the mic system's not there and we haven't painted our mural. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
-Should I put Amy Carmichael in small writing, joint hand? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:41 | |
-I thought we were drawing pictures, right. -Well, we were... | 0:46:41 | 0:46:44 | |
Kshama seems to have finally made a breakthrough with the teenagers, | 0:46:44 | 0:46:48 | |
successfully getting them involved with a Christian project. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:52 | |
'I'm very happy that this mural will be a message.' | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
It's got a very colloquial slogan - "What's the craic?" | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
That is, "What's happening? What's the happening thing in Belfast?" | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
We'll have, in a beautiful banner, his name, Jesus. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:10 | |
# If you wanna wanna wanna wanna wanna have someone to talk to... # | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
Three of the Catholic girls Kshama met at the Falls Women's Centre | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
have been brave enough to come to help paint the mural. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
It's their first time in the Shankill | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
and it's been a huge step for them | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
to come to such a staunchly Protestant place. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
Kshama's perseverance has helped persuade them to cross the divide. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
When I saw the girls from the Falls and the youngsters | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
from the Shankill painting the mural together, that broke the ice. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:43 | |
It was a message of love, a message of Jesus being a friend to all. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:48 | |
It was that togetherness that didn't allow them | 0:47:48 | 0:47:52 | |
to feel scared or threatened by each other's company. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
-You having fun, Aisling? -Yeah. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Michelangelo probably had it as difficult as this, | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
but it's shaping up. I'm thrilled, I'm thrilled. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:10 | |
With everybody lending a hand to get things ready, | 0:48:11 | 0:48:15 | |
Kshama's hopes for community spirit seem to be paying off. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:18 | |
You're in charge of the spoons. You sit here. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
Included on the mural are some of Amy Carmichael's words... | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
Amy started writing in the last years of her life, | 0:48:38 | 0:48:40 | |
when she was bedridden after a serious fall. | 0:48:40 | 0:48:43 | |
She had 37 books published, many of which are still in print today. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
I just need five minutes of your precious time. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:52 | |
I'm from a country which is not a Christian country | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
but somebody from the British Isles came to my country | 0:48:57 | 0:49:02 | |
and told us about the Lord Jesus. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
I want you to all enjoy his love and his peace | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
and give yourself a big clap. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:10 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
In her own small way, Kshama has succeeded in bringing | 0:49:15 | 0:49:19 | |
back from India Amy's missionary zeal and her ideal of embracing | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
and supporting younger members of the community. | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
# Sha la la la la la la La la da dah de dah... # | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
That was a very positive thing. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:33 | |
I have never experienced a road come alive. | 0:49:33 | 0:49:36 | |
For me, it was a very big thing that on the road of Belfast, | 0:49:36 | 0:49:42 | |
the name of Jesus is being glorified. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-Did you enjoy the curry? -Yeah, yeah, it was really nice. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
-And did you enjoy coming? -Yeah, it was brilliant. | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
-Was there anything to worry about? -No. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
-Did you see that "friend to all?" -Yes. | 0:49:58 | 0:50:00 | |
Jesus is the one who loves both sides. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
He loves you very much and he has a great plan for your life. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
Bless you, girls. Thanks very much for coming. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
-You enjoyed coming? -Yeah. -And you've left your mark on the Shankill, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:15 | |
you tell them that when you go home. Isn't that terrific? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:20 | |
Before Kshama's mission finishes, she's making one more visit | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
to the home of teenage mum, Vicky, ahead of baby Joshua's blessing. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:32 | |
-Hi, Vicky. -Hello, Kshama. Hello. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
I have a gift for you, Vicky. | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
This is the Bible. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:47 | |
Talking about Jesus, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
Jesus bore our sins in his body. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
On the tree means on the cross, | 0:50:53 | 0:50:56 | |
so that we may not sin and live for righteousness. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
When you read these, you will be encouraged | 0:51:00 | 0:51:03 | |
because when you are encouraged, you'll be happy | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
and a happy mother makes a happy child. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:09 | |
How do you feel? | 0:51:09 | 0:51:10 | |
I like that you've given me a Bible, cos now I can read it | 0:51:12 | 0:51:16 | |
and it can help me. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:17 | |
Bye. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
-God bless you, and remember that. -Yes. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
She is really religious, but she's like a good religious person | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
because she's not full on all the time. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
She is some of the time, yeah, I'm not saying that she's not at all | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
because she is sometimes, but not... | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Most of the time she's OK and she's fun and she's a good person. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:44 | |
It's Kshama's final day at Townsend Street Church. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
Nathan and Nathan! | 0:51:54 | 0:51:55 | |
Today is a special service to bless baby Joshua. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Some of the teenagers who helped Kshama paint the mural | 0:51:58 | 0:52:02 | |
have come to decorate the church. | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
Ben and Vicky have invited their families | 0:52:10 | 0:52:12 | |
to celebrate Joshua's blessing. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
Today is also Kshama's last opportunity | 0:52:23 | 0:52:25 | |
to fill the pews with young faces. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
What are you doing, Nathan? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
He's welcoming you in his own unique way. He's giving you five. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
That's how you say hi in the church. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
This is a special service, not just for Kshama, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
it's also a very special service for this little boy here, called Joshua. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:51 | |
Let us start our service this evening | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
by speaking to God in prayer. Let us pray. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
Heavenly Father, even as my arms are embracing Ben and Vicky and little Joshua, | 0:53:00 | 0:53:06 | |
it is our prayer that he will come to know Jesus Christ | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
as his Lord and saviour and forever friend. Amen. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:15 | |
And now, I want the congregation | 0:53:15 | 0:53:18 | |
to just stretch out their hand to bless this boy. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:22 | |
The Lord bless you and keep you, Joshua. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
The Lord give you strength and health. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
May you be a blessing to your parents and to your family. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:33 | |
I thought that was quite outstanding, | 0:53:33 | 0:53:35 | |
the way in which Kshama was able to speak to a couple | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
who clearly have little contact with the church and yet, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
they have a desire for the best for this child of theirs, Joshua. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:48 | |
It's wonderful they've chosen the name Joshua, of course, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:51 | |
which is the Old Testament name for Jesus - saviour. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
I feel Vicky had peace in her heart. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:57 | |
She has done her best in giving Joshua over to Jesus. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
And Jesus is faithful. He'll make Joshua into a success story. | 0:54:03 | 0:54:07 | |
I wanted the song from Westlife, You Raise Me Up. | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
It's a very popular song, but it's a very calming song. | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
Kshama's success in India is built upon making the church | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
feel modern and relevant to the young. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:22 | |
Her mission to do the same in Townsend Street has proved difficult | 0:54:22 | 0:54:26 | |
but in only two weeks, she has succeeded in filling | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
many of the once empty pews with younger people. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:33 | |
I want to ask you, is there somebody here | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
who has never been afraid of anything? | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
But I want you to come up in front, just write one fear. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:43 | |
Come, Kirsty, come. Write a fear. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
# You raise me up so I can stand on mountains | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
# You raise me up... | 0:54:51 | 0:54:54 | |
She wants to show the youngsters | 0:54:54 | 0:54:55 | |
that the church is ready to listen to their worries | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
and understand their needs. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:01 | |
# I am strong when I am on your shoulders | 0:55:01 | 0:55:08 | |
# You raise me up to more than I can be. # | 0:55:08 | 0:55:16 | |
I was scared of so many things in my life. | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
As a teenager in college, as a student in high school | 0:55:26 | 0:55:31 | |
and as a young lady wondering, who am I going to get married to? | 0:55:31 | 0:55:35 | |
I was so scared, but when I found Jesus, my fears were dealt with. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:41 | |
What does Jesus say? | 0:55:41 | 0:55:43 | |
"I am with you, do not be afraid." | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
I thought it was going to be with, like, holy water and all that. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
No, Kshama said there was not going to be any water involved. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
Well, I didn't know, because you didn't tell me. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
It was fun and it was nice and it was our family together | 0:56:01 | 0:56:05 | |
and Joshua was getting blessed and it was just nice. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:09 | |
Bye, Ruby! Bye, Vicky! | 0:56:09 | 0:56:13 | |
Before she leaves Belfast, Kshama has invited the teens | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
and children to sign their names on the mural | 0:56:16 | 0:56:18 | |
so they will always remember their part in its creation. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:23 | |
I met youngsters in Belfast, | 0:56:23 | 0:56:25 | |
youngsters not very different from those in India. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
The challenges, the loneliness, the rejection, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
the emotions are the same | 0:56:30 | 0:56:32 | |
and I've been able to introduce the Lord Jesus in their own way. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:35 | |
I feel very emotional, I feel like crying, | 0:56:35 | 0:56:38 | |
because I know I'm going to leave people I have received so much from. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
I remember Amy Carmichael, when she left Belfast, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
she left her shawlies, she left her mill workers | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
but the mission continues, and I'm going to do the same thing. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:57 | |
She's got the measure of this area. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
She knows how to speak to people | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
and yet she does not compromise on the message that she has brought. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:11 | |
The message that Amy Carmichael took out to India, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
Kshama has brought it back to the Shankill. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
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