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21st century Britain -

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a country where traditional church attendance is plummeting.

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Society is becoming so saturated in secularism.

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Christianity is now becoming like a second-class subject.

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If you were to put a leaflet through the door

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saying there's going to be a fight on Monday, everybody would turn up.

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But, as soon as there's the word "church",

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or "holy", it's straight away "no".

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But it wasn't always the case.

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The 19th-century was a golden age for Christianity

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and Britain exported that faith,

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despatching missionaries across the world

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to places where, today, belief is booming.

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Jesus is walking among you.

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-That we should be saved.

-Amen.

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Now, reversing those journeys,

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three idealistic Christians are coming here on their own missions.

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We've come with a lot of hope and a lot of faith.

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-But is modern Britain ready for them?

-If we believe God, I know something can happen.

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With the greatest respect, Moses could be standing there,

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and I still don't think they would go into church.

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The atmosphere was very tense.

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There was no peace about it.

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And can their distinctive missionary styles rejuvenate failing church communities?

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I think he's hoping to fill the church with people. I'm just no' interested.

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Great missionary work needs to be done.

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In Malawi, Africa, pastor John Chilimtsidya

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runs a church that is flourishing.

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HE SINGS

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THEY SING

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But will his charismatic brand of worship revive

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a declining church in Blantyre, Glasgow?

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Once we start to fritter away, they'll be nobody left to carry on.

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Blantyre's the birthplace of missionary Dr David Livingstone,

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who helped spread Christianity within Africa.

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As pastor John goes in search of his hero's remarkable story,

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he'll gain inspiration for his own mission.

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-And this is David Livingstone's house.

-David Livingstone's house.

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This is the house. I promise you.

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In the name of Jesus.

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John wants the community and its young people

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to find its faith in a church again.

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If you want kids to be interested in something, you've got to target them.

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But challenged with scepticism...

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We're not the jump up and jump about church.

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We're a more sedate church.

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..and in the face of apathy,

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can he succeed in attracting people back into the house of God?

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I want to encourage you to come to church.

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It looks as if there's no Christianity, at all.

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I feel like crying.

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Malawi in south-east Africa -

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one of the poorest countries in the world,

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with well over half its people living below the poverty line.

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However, belief and faith here is thriving.

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Over 80 % of its 13 million population is a practising Christian,

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and regularly attend a church.

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170 years ago,

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David Livingstone began his mission to expand Christianity in Africa.

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Largely forgotten back home, in Malawi he remains everywhere.

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Blantyre, Malawi's commercial capital, took its name from his Scottish birthplace.

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Missionary, doctor, explorer,

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Livingstone was the first white European to reveal

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the location of the Victoria Falls.

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30 years of travel and missionary work saw him overcome disease,

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resistance from local tribes, and wild animals.

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His exploits thrilled a 19th-century public.

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His fame and his unique understanding of the African people

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left a legacy that would see Christianity proliferate

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throughout the continent.

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God is there.

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Jehovah is here.

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Somebody say amen.

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Alleluia. Amen.

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In Malawi, the flame of Livingstone's

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Christian legacy is burning brightly,

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and Pastor John Chilimtsidya is the torch bearer.

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The people are flocking to Pastor John's church.

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The charismatic renewal church is one of Malawi's fastest-growing.

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Four years ago, John's congregation stood at just 25.

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Now it's nearly 800.

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HE SINGS

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In Scotland, Livingstone was a member of the Congregational movement.

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In its heyday, Blantyre's church was thriving.

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Now, it's a different picture.

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Worshippers, here, are increasingly thin on the ground,

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and there's virtually no young people in the congregation.

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The Reverend Malcolm Anderson is finding it tough.

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Scotland is becoming so saturated in secularism,

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where Christianity is now becoming like a second-class subject.

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In Malawi, John's methods echo Livingstone

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and the Victorian evangelical missionaries of old, as he takes the word of God out on the road.

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These are some of the open airs that we do, reaching out to the people,

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so we have chosen this place because on this day it's a busy market.

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Alleluia. We want to thank God, today,

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that we may rejoice and be glad.

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I want you to lift your hands up and I pray in the name of Jesus.

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You want to win confidence in the lives of people.

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Some of them have never heard the gospel before. They are coming here to say,

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"Let's see what this man is saying."

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Then they are responsive. They lift up their hands, they are coming to Jesus.

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That's a miracle. That's amazing.

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John's success isn't just about preaching.

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He works with poor street children.

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and helps to turn their lives around.

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Before I met Pastor John,

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I was stealing, of which,

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if I continued with that life I would have been imprisoned.

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We really have a lot of young people.

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Invest more in the young people and the church will keep on growing.

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John may have dedicated his life to God,

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but his family is also a top priority.

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This one is my firstborn daughter. This one is Teresa.

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She's doing a boarding school,

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so she stays there, she just comes here during holidays.

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So, this one is Faith. She is nine years old.

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That's Emanuel. That's our last born.

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I do create time for them, because if I cannot then I can neglect them easily.

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John's been married to his wife, Piera, for 13 years.

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This is my wife, she's cooking some meat, here.

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Cooking some sort of vegetables, also. For us to eat.

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And get fat and have a good health.

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Sometimes I help her cooking. So, that's our life.

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That's our daily life here at home. Yeah.

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John's hero, David Livingstone,

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devoted his early life in Africa to spreading the word of God.

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Livingstone's sacrifice is celebrated in a church

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built in his memory in Blantyre.

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So, after Livingstone came here, gave his life, died,

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and then other missionaries were also inspired by him

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to come into this nation

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so these are the fruits, also,

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but the foundation is the great David Livingstone.

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After Livingstone died, they removed his heart and buried under a tree.

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They used that tree to make this thing. They use it for Holy Communion.

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The Livingstone legend is inspirational for Pastor John.

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There was a man who really suffered for us.

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A lonely life, leaving his family and children for the sake of us,

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for the sake of bringing the gospel to Africa, to us.

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That's how I got inspired to him.

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Just like Livingstone, John wants his mission

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of spreading the word of God to have a lasting impression

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when he goes to Britain.

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My dream is, I want to invest what I have into the lives of people.

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Something that can grow

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and something that can reach out to other lives.

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My vision is when we go there and preach the gospel,

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that church will fill up with people.

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So, my biggest appointment is when I'll be coming back

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and I see that the church is not full.

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A popular preacher, a group of John's congregation have travelled

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over 200 miles across country to wish him luck on his mission.

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4,000 miles and 11 hours later,

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John is in the UK and on his way to Scotland,

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about to bring the spirit of Livingstone home.

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I take them like they are good people, they are God-fearing,

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they are Christian, so, I feel like they are just like us.

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They are receptive, you know, that's my image of the British people.

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I expected that there'll be tarmac everywhere,

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and buildings everywhere.

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I didn't expect to find trees, like the way it is, vegetation.

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John's arriving into a Glasgow that is very different

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from the one that Livingstone left in 1840.

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On the outskirts of the city is Livingstone's birthplace, Blantyre.

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A former mill and mining community, it was hit hard by pit closures

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of the 1980s and again by the latest recession.

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Long-term unemployment and poverty are significant issues here.

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And it's here that John will start his mission.

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For the next couple of weeks, he'll be staying

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with Jean and Ian Grant,

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pillars of the local church.

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-Hello.

-Welcome.

-Thank you so much.

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-Right, John. This is your room.

-Thank you so much. This is wonderful.

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You're welcome.

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-Let's keep it tidy.

-I will, I will.

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This is fish?

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-Fish. Yes.

-Nice fish.

-Nice fish.

-Wonderful, thank you.

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-Caught it myself.

-And he tells lies, too.

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Yeah.

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Oh, can you cook?

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-Sure.

-Oh, Lovely.

-Yeah.

-Do you iron?

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-I do.

-Do you wash?

-Yes.

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I do iron. I wash.

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You're not a member of my clan.

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His face is very approachable.

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He can understand us, which was a big thing, you know.

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I said, I wonder, will we understand him and him understand us?

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Jean and Ian have been members of the local

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Congregational Church for many years.

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The Congregational Church is a nonconformist

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and Protestant movement that has strong links

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to the missionary organisation that sponsored Livingstone in Africa.

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John's about to meet the reverend Malcolm Anderson for the first time.

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-Welcome to Blantyre.

-Thank you so much.

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-I see you've brought the weather with you.

-Yeah!

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What are some of the challenges that the Church is facing, here?

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Whereas in the '80s and the '70s, you know, the churches were very healthy.

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Youth was very healthy within the Church.

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Society, with so many distractions, and alternative lifestyles,

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they're a missing generation, there.

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You know, my church is full of young people.

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We have young people - over, maybe, 200 something.

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We need a revival. We need to bring the young kids into the church.

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It's very important because that's the future church.

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If we miss them now we're never going to bring them in.

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John's revival starts with a tour.

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What are you doing with a lady's umbrella, John?

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You can't go about Blantyre with an umbrella like that.

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We'll shelter under one.

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The Congregational Church was rebuilt in the 1960s

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and it stands in the corner of the supermarket that dominates

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the once bustling town centre.

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In fact, the locals call it the ASDA Church.

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Blantyre is a very small community. It's a very tightknit community.

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It takes you maybe 15 minutes to walk around the full place.

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This is a skate park, here.

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A lot of the youngsters would hang out here at times.

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You know, it's away from the street corners, etc, you know,

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they're not doing anybody any harm.

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It's kind of a focal point for the youngsters coming here.

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It's a world away from Blantyre, Africa.

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It's so different to Malawi.

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Malawi, you find a lot of people

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moving up and down, you know, but here,

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just get in your car to the shop. From the shop just get into the car, you go.

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Walking in Malawi, you see people, many people walking

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than those that are using cars, that's the difference, here.

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John's eager to get his revival going and to do what he does best back home,

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spreading the word of God by going out to meet the people.

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But how receptive will Blantyre, Scotland, be?

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-Are you a Christian?

-No.

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-Do you desire to become one?

-Not really.

-Why?

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-Cos it looks kind of boring.

-Boring? Have ever been to church before?

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Just entering into a church?

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-So, how do you know that it's boring?

-I saw The Simpsons.

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-Do you know Jesus?

-Aye.

-Who is he?

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-The son of God.

-He talks about love.

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You know, you love yourself, you love your neighbours, you love yourself, you love God.

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I love Jordan.

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-Hello.

-All right?

-I'm John. How are you?

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-Yeah, no' bad.

-How are you?

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-Do you go to church, yourself?

-No, I don't go.

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-Have you been ever to church?

-I've been before, aye.

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-So, why are you not going this time?

-Don't know. Not into it.

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-Are you a sinner or are you not a sinner?

-A sinner?

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I don't know what that means.

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You don't know what that means?

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I want to encourage you to come to church.

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Would you like me to pray for you?

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We can pray together. Is it OK with you?

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-I'm all right.

-Not really.

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Sorry?

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No, I don't want to do it.

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-You don't want to pray.

-No.

-Why?

-I don't like all that.

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John's dismayed at what appears to be the total absence of God.

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It looks as if there's no Christianity at all.

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I feel like crying, you know.

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And this is the place that we actually honour,

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that's where our Christianity in Africa came from.

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And we are enjoying the benefits,

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but where Christianity came from, you know.

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It's very pathetic, but, I'm trusting God,

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that God is going to visit this place.

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But, if you lose young people, like this, there's no change.

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Competing for attention with many other entertaining alternatives,

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Britain is now fourth from bottom

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in the European Church Attendance league table.

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To give John a taste of what the church is up against,

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Malcolm's taken him to Motherwell FC.

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After God, it's his big passion.

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Deliver, deliver, deliver!

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Yeah!

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It looks like a religion, here. On its own.

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It is. It is. People come here rather than church.

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This is their Church. Where they'll come to worship.

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They'll give their support and adoration to the players on the park.

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And the thing is so many supporters are so fanatical,

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so religious, they'll follow their teams everywhere.

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It's John's first ever visit to a football ground and he's wondering

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whether the church can learn some lessons about passion

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from match day.

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These people are coming to football because they are looking for excitement.

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They clap hands, they dance, they jump.

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For them, it's like, I'm having fun, football.

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Now, suppose you take that person, he goes to church.

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You'll not find fun, you know, it's like worship.

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John is looking to discover more about his hero,

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David Livingstone, and find inspiration for his own mission.

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Livingstone was born here in 1813,

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in a house attached to Blantyre's huge cotton mill,

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employing 1,800 workers.

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The mill is no longer there,

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but the worker's homes are preserved as a museum.

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-This is where David Livingstone was born.

-Wow.

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In Shuttle Row in Blantyre.

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-He was born in the top of the house.

-Top of this building.

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-There were 24 families living in here in that time.

-Wow!

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-This is David Livingstone's house. Come in and have a look.

-Wow.

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Now, don't make a mistake. It's not a room. This is the whole house.

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-This is the whole house.

-This is the whole house.

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-One room for every family, regardless of how many live here.

-OK.

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-David was here, with his mum and dad, his gran and grandpa.

-OK.

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-And five children.

-Five children.

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-So, there were actually nine living in one room.

-All right.

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This is David Livingstone's house.

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-This is the house. I promise you.

-Wow.

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This is wonderful.

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Seeing the cramped conditions where Livingstone was born,

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reminds John of his own roots.

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It's given me a picture of how I brought up myself.

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-Coming from my family, we are 12, we were 12 in our house.

-Oh, right.

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-Yeah.

-And we're living in one-roomed house.

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-12 of us.

-Then you would understand Livingstone.

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Sure. So much. So much. So much.

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The young Livingstone worked up to 14 hours a day in the mill.

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But, remarkably, still found time to educate himself.

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It's well recorded that David used to put a book

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up here on the machine as he worked.

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And we know that his first book that he bought

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when he was aged ten was a Latin grammar book.

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And as he walked past, he would read one word, come round and do

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whatever he was to do,

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and then come back and find out what that word meant.

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The children in the village,

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particularly the ones who couldn't read, used to get annoyed about this

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and they used to roll up cotton wool and throw it at his book

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in the hope that the book would get stuck in the twisting machine.

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At 23, Livingstone had scraped enough savings

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to put himself through medical school.

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After qualifying as a doctor, he trained as a missionary,

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and in 1840, he set sail for Africa.

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In Africa, Livingstone soon came face-to-face with slavery.

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Even though it had been abolished in the British Empire in 1833,

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it still flourished in East Africa.

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As a passionate antislavery campaigner,

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he was hugely influential in gaining public support for the course

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back in Britain.

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Britain had stopped transatlantic slavery,

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but wasn't getting involved in stopping it on the East Coast.

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So, David was continually writing to the government, and to the Queen

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and every newspaper and anyone who supported him,

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he would be writing, this happened and this happened and this happened.

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And explaining, constantly, the horrors of the slavery that was still going on.

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-You would pick the tallest person, I'm so sorry.

-Like me.

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And that would go on this way and be bolted at the back of his neck.

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So, the two tallest people in the village would be shackled

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together in this way and chains coming from here to the smaller ones,

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probably children, and if you don't walk fast enough, I'll whip you.

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If you don't walk fast enough, I'll prod you.

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And, finally, someone will be killed to ensure that everyone speeds up.

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Every morning when he was on Lake Malawi,

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he'd wake up and they would have to push the bodies aside,

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the ones that had got caught around the boat during the night,

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they had to push their bodies aside to continue their journey.

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You know, we were just on Lake Malawi last week, you know,

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with my wife, you know, and I imagine that Livingstone was there,

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and there were dead bodies all over.

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-Something that you can see, now, as beautiful and tranquil.

-Yes.

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A pleasure.

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-But it was always tinged with sadness.

-Yeah, yeah.

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Learning more about Livingstone's life has touched Pastor John.

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He lived his life for us.

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He gave himself up for others, allowing to suffer for the sake of others.

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You know, he lived for the freedom of others. Preaching love.

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The issue for John, now, is to think about how he can change things

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so the word of God can be heard by more people.

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It's Sunday morning at Blantyre's Congregational Church

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and Rev Malcolm is in the pulpit.

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Let's come this morning in our opening prayer,

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a prayer of thanksgiving and a prayer of confession.

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Malcolm's style is traditional and restrained,

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which is what the locals want.

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If anything new comes in that they see as change, then, you know,

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sometimes they're not too sure.

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Some people have got a worship space

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and they don't like that to be invaded by anybody else,

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so if it's out the norm then they feel, at times, they feel awkward.

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THEY SING

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The congregation like Malcolm, and they like their church.

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Their worry is the future.

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It's a whole different world, nowadays. Church has gone out of fashion.

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I mean, is just not cool for young boys and girls to come to church.

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Once we start to fritter away, there'll be nobody left to carry on.

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The question for John, though, is where are all the young people?

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As night falls, Glasgow city centre comes alive.

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I'm no' standin' and you want tae film me!

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The famously vibrant nightlife is a good place for John to get an idea

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of what young people get up to around here.

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-Vodka.

-Vodka. Shots. Good.

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Starts off wi' a bottle of Buckfast, finishes off in the casino.

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John's going to be joining the Glasgow Street pastors.

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-How you doing, man?

-Yeah, man.

-Doing all right?

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What's up, man?!

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They're volunteers from all the major faiths,

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whose Christian mission is to help, care, and listen.

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Andy Sharp is one of the team leaders.

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This is John. John's over from Malawi.

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He's hoping to find ways to build up the church congregation in Blantyre

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where he is attached, as well.

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What we don't do, and it's really important,

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is we don't preach at people.

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-Basically, it doesn't work.

-Yeah.

-Right? If it did, we would do it.

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Believe you me. It doesn't.

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People who you'll meet will be out for a good time,

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they'll be probably drinking a lot, they could be taking alcohol,

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drugs, combinations of things.

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If you can understand their accent, fantastic,

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you'll be doing really well.

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You can have as many as 40,000 people out on a single night.

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You'll find the primary reason for the vast majority of trouble

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is the legal drug, alcohol.

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We're looking out for people who are vulnerable,

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people who are on their own, people who are homeless.

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What were doing is we're just checking they're OK, check if they're needing any help.

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How you doing guys, are you OK? No worries.

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Don't stay out too late, it's going to get wet.

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We were at the chinky and we were waiting for the 23 but we missed it.

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I saw kids, maybe 12, or nine, at night, drinking, you know.

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In our country, most of the people that drink are men.

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You hardly see a lot of women there abusing alcohol.

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Unless if they are these women that do night business.

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When Livingstone first began his missionary work,

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his initial impressions of the local tribes were not good.

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He wrote, "The population is sunk into the very lowest

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"state of mental and moral degradation."

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Pastor John's realising he's as much out of his cultural comfort zone

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as Livingstone was.

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-Have you ever seen us in the street before?

-Loads of times.

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-We feel a lot safer. You do good job.

-Thank you.

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-We'll see you later. Thank you. Have a good night.

-Thanks.

-Take care.

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In my country, you can't dress like that during the day.

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You are arrested because our mode of dressing is from top up to bottom.

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You don't even show the legs.

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Women are not supposed to show their legs.

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It is not anything that I tell my wife.

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Talking to the people that are drunkards, I become threatened.

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So, that's why I was just watching.

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I can't speak there, because anything can happen.

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I don't understand the laws of this country, you understand?

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So, I cannot just be free at night,

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talking to the people that are drinking.

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It's tough.

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In Malawi, the young flock to John's church.

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Around these parts, it looks like he's got his work cut out.

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To help him with his UK mission,

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John is eager to find out more about Livingstone's methods in Africa.

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He's meeting Elspeth Murdoch, David Livingstone's great-granddaughter.

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Well, this is him with my grandmother, Anna Mary.

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-This was 1937.

-1937.

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-This is me, here.

-You were here.

-Yeah, that's right.

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I don't get a face.

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Livingstone's initial attempts at conversion through direct preaching

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proved totally ineffective.

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He decided to work with tribal culture,

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rather than fight against it.

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His approach to missionary work changed as he grew to think

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that Africans were often wiser than their white neighbours.

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He didn't approve, but Livingstone developed a broadminded view of deeply ingrained customs.

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He understood that Africans had more than one wife,

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and it was difficult for them to, sort of, say no,

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we can't have any more.

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You know, that's, that was their culture.

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They had their own beliefs and you can't suddenly change,

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I mean, your great-grandfather, what did he believe?

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They were not Christian.

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No, they were not Christian.

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They had their own religion, I have no doubt.

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-They believed in something. Pagan spirits, didn't they?

-That's right, that's right. Yes.

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He went along with some of these witch doctors,

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because he knew that they had, you know,

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herbs and things that they used.

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And he was interested in that.

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So, he was able to help in healing,

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and he would teach them and, of course,

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he learned their languages.

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He was good at languages.

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He had tremendous respect for the African.

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Livingstone wanted to take the word of God much further,

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way beyond the established missions, into the heart of Africa.

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When Livingstone first went out, he was sent to a mission station

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at Kuruman, where his father-in-law was a missionary there.

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But Livingstone wanted to go further.

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Where he knew there was a lot of, you know,

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people who wouldn't have heard of Jesus at all.

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So, they moved out in terribly difficult conditions,

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of course, in the Kalahari Desert.

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You know, in tremendous heat and no water,

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but, he was a man of many gifts.

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And, he certainly opened up Africa for Christianity.

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Meeting Elspeth has made a real impression on John,

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and discovering Livingstone's concessions to local culture

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is beginning to make John reassess his position.

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It's different with a situation that we have in our country, because

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we say no to drinking, we say no to smoking, we say no to these thing,

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we say no if you're Christian, you can't do those things, you know.

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But, Christianity that is here, you know,

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it's like people are Christians but they can also do these other things,

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you know, so it's a different society altogether.

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So, there are some situations where you need to compromise.

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Livingstone took huge risks travelling into Africa

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to spread the word, and John thinks that the congregation here

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should play a much more active role.

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They can come to church, but there's no-one who's reaching out to them.

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The older people, the people that are in the church are there.

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But they don't want to take an initiative to go out to the people.

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Reverend Malcolm.

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He's planning his first sermon with Malcolm,

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which is going to be on the Parable Of The Sower,

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how it's every Christian's duty to go out and encourage people into the Church.

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Yeah, it's not just a matter of maybe a reverend or a pastor,

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you know, to preach the gospel.

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Each and every believer, also.

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We are mandated commission to plant seeds everywhere.

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I think this is very relevant to what we're thinking about.

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-Why you're here, as well.

-Yes.

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Because, the soil, people's hearts, quite stubborn. And quite closed.

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They don't want to be intruded in any way.

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But, it's how to communicate that message in a relevant way.

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Back in Malawi, John's compelling sermon style is a real crowd pleaser.

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In Jesus. Somebody say amen.

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Amen.

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In Scotland, he's hoping his African approach will be just as well received.

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Good morning.

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ALL: Good morning.

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We have a special visitor this morning.

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Pastor John from a church in Blantyre, Malawi.

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So, let's afford a warm welcome to our visitor this morning.

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Jesus said the sower went out to sow the seeds.

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What we need to understand, here, is what is the way of the kingdom.

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We must also share this way to others.

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That's what Jesus is telling us. Go into the world.

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Preach the gospel to every creation.

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We cannot just take the seed and keep it. We must bear fruit.

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It's not only the responsibility of reverends, bishops,

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and pastors to preach the word of God.

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It's the responsibility of every believer.

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In Jesus' name, amen.

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Reverend Malcolm, thank you.

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Over tea and cakes, John's eager to hear how his high-energy

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missionary style, so successful in Malawi, has gone down.

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-How was my sermon?

-Your sermon was excellent.

0:32:090:32:12

-Not shouting too high?

-No, I don't think so.

0:32:120:32:18

No, I personally, and I can speak for myself here, I enjoyed it.

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It wasn't so bad. I could pick him out,

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but a lot of the elderly ladies that hadn't had their hearing aids in,

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they found it a wee bit difficult to pick out some of his phrases.

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I like the church the way it is.

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Our services are much quieter. As a preacher, he is full of enthusiasm.

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But, I don't know if our church could handle that type of preaching every week.

0:32:460:32:51

Rev Malcolm is somewhat more supportive.

0:32:510:32:54

I wasn't taken aback.

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I've had a broad spectrum, and I've been quite exposed

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to different forms of expository preaching, so, it was fine for me.

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John's frustrated that his message may have fallen on stony ground.

0:33:050:33:10

The congregation, it's like a quiet congregation.

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When you say amen, no-one could answer.

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When you say amen, you know, just silent, you know.

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When you're there, you see, are these people hearing me? Are they enjoying the message?

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John's realised that encouraging an ageing congregation

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to be more active is going to be a challenge.

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John's visiting Blantyre's youth centre.

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He wants to find out what's putting young people off coming through the church doors.

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The question is, is it a problem with the medium or the message?

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SINGING

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# Anymore. #

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That's powerful. Wow! That's powerful.

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I didn't expect that I can hear that nice music here.

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I think here, it's most of the young people,

0:34:090:34:11

maybe they don't go to church.

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What does they say, what is the reason of them not going to church, you know.

0:34:130:34:17

I went to church when I was younger.

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But, as I got older, and I had the choice, I chose not to go.

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I don't know if boring's the right word, but,

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there was nothing to integrate me as a kid into church, you know.

0:34:260:34:30

You can't just expect them to sit there and, you know,

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listen to this man who does the same sermon every Sunday.

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You got to get the kids interested. Put a bit of passion in it.

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Which we don't get that in church.

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If you want kids to be interested, you've got to target them.

0:34:440:34:47

And you've got to make an effort, otherwise you're going to lose them.

0:34:470:34:51

John's heartened, there is a glimmer of faith around here.

0:34:520:34:56

It appears it's not the message that's the problem

0:34:560:34:58

but the way it's communicated.

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They are not far away from God.

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But the problem is the way how the church is conducted.

0:35:040:35:10

The challenge here is the system and the type of worship

0:35:100:35:13

that most churches are using. It doesn't accommodate young people.

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The men and women who run the Blantyre Congregational Church affairs

0:35:200:35:24

are called the Deacon's Court.

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John wants to persuade them to get out into the community

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and bring young people to the church.

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The deacons are involved in every aspect of the church life.

0:35:330:35:37

And, I have to say, we're quite blessed and fortunate that we have

0:35:370:35:43

such a happy team of deacons in the church.

0:35:430:35:47

Thank God.

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Tell us what you have in mind, to...you would like to do,

0:35:490:35:53

what you would like us to assist you with, and if we possibly can.

0:35:530:35:58

If we can.

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Mainly, is taking the church outside to the world,

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so that we can find people that are not in the church and try to bring them in.

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How do you intend getting over their doorstep to talk to them?

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We use the people that we have.

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We use even you to say, do you know any young couple, somewhere,

0:36:140:36:18

that you can invite, you know, just to speak into their lives.

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That's what I believe, we can do that.

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What it comes down to is a time for church.

0:36:240:36:27

Like every parent,

0:36:270:36:29

parents will do anything to keep their children happy.

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They'll get the big things.

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They'll get their iPods and all the rest of it.

0:36:340:36:37

But it doesn't take them to the church.

0:36:370:36:39

They never think of the church at this time.

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We've tried these things and, to be honest,

0:36:410:36:45

some of the looks you get off people sometimes, you know,

0:36:450:36:48

with the greatest respect, Moses could be standing there himself

0:36:480:36:51

and I still don't think they would go into church.

0:36:510:36:54

I believe people can come in the church.

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You know, the place that I am, I am there for four years now,

0:36:570:36:59

but when I was going there, there were only 25 people in the church.

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So, 25 people now, four years, we're talking about 800 people.

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And I believe God can use us to bring revival

0:37:070:37:11

in Blantyre.

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But it takes somebody who can believe.

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Let's believe God.

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If we believe God, I know something can happen.

0:37:180:37:20

I don't know if you're understanding me.

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You know, here, the mind of the people say, it cannot happen.

0:37:240:37:27

That cannot be done.

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Now, if you have that mind, there's nothing that you build on it.

0:37:280:37:31

Because, it's like you're already defeated.

0:37:310:37:34

Irene, the deacon's vice-chair,

0:37:340:37:35

is sceptical on the chances of success.

0:37:350:37:39

He's so enthusiastic.

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I would say that the church is a wee bit wary.

0:37:410:37:45

But all churches are wary of somebody coming in from the outside.

0:37:450:37:48

It doesn't matter where you go.

0:37:480:37:51

I think he's hoping to fill the church, and I would like to think that he could do it,

0:37:510:37:57

but the people in Blantyre are just not interested.

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In 1841, Livingstone was initially stationed in South Africa,

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where there were already established missions,

0:38:060:38:09

but he soon travelled northwards to assess

0:38:090:38:11

the feasibility of establishing outposts in unexplored regions.

0:38:110:38:16

Journeying into the heart of Africa, he developed his ideas for expanding

0:38:160:38:20

the work of missions through native agents - well-trained local converts,

0:38:200:38:25

who would preach the word of God through the local languages.

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Pastor John wants to find his own native agent in modern Blantyre.

0:38:300:38:34

He's been introduced to one of the youth centre volunteers.

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Chloe is a practising Christian, but she's been attracted

0:38:380:38:42

to a more vibrant church in another part of the city.

0:38:420:38:45

From my point of view, church was always boring, and it was something

0:38:450:38:49

I always wanted to rebel against, until I went to my new church.

0:38:490:38:52

And it's fun, and that sort of stuff, and I find that born-again Christian churches are so much different.

0:38:520:38:58

I find the churches around here are really good churches but, they're not really,

0:38:580:39:02

-they don't do much to relate to the youth.

-OK.

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So, I find that if they do more stuff to relate to the youth,

0:39:040:39:08

like doing events for youth, it would really get them involved.

0:39:080:39:11

-The whole thing is a puzzle.

-Yeah, the whole thing is a puzzle. I like it.

0:39:110:39:16

-Thank you so much.

-No bother. It was nice to meet you.

0:39:160:39:20

You could really see that this young lady's a powerful believer.

0:39:200:39:24

Powerful born-again. And she knows the importance of being in the church.

0:39:240:39:27

This is what we are looking for.

0:39:270:39:29

Chloe lives in one of the roughest areas of Blantyre.

0:39:310:39:35

Over the last year we've had a lot of attacks.

0:39:350:39:39

It's made Blantyre a scary place. Like, I know my dad doesn't like me out after a certain time, nowadays.

0:39:390:39:44

When I first meet somebody,

0:39:460:39:47

I find that I don't tell them straight away that I go to church.

0:39:470:39:51

I find some people are really not accepting of it.

0:39:510:39:53

Like, I have friends who don't talk to me any more

0:39:530:39:56

because I go to church. I don't let it bother me.

0:39:560:39:58

If that's the kind of person they want to be, I don't really want to know them.

0:39:580:40:01

Chloe's invited John to come and meet the neighbours.

0:40:010:40:05

How does people see churches here.

0:40:050:40:07

-That's the only faith I've got.

-What's that?

-That the Celtic badge. Celtic football team.

0:40:070:40:11

Are you a Christian, yourself?

0:40:110:40:13

Protestant.

0:40:130:40:15

Do you believe in God, yourself?

0:40:150:40:18

I believe in him, aye.

0:40:180:40:19

You believe in God.

0:40:190:40:21

Aye, but I just don't... not interested in church.

0:40:210:40:23

-Is it also your church boring?

-My church isn't boring.

0:40:230:40:28

My church, I love my church. My church is really lively.

0:40:280:40:32

We've got a band. We sing. That sort of stuff.

0:40:320:40:35

We always have stuff happening.

0:40:350:40:37

Like, we have summer camps and we have,

0:40:370:40:39

we had the multicultural service on Sunday, there.

0:40:390:40:42

The churches in Blantyre are mostly like, we sing hymns,

0:40:420:40:47

with the organ, and then you listen to the priest.

0:40:470:40:50

They could make it a bit more lively for young people to enjoy.

0:40:500:40:54

I don't find they really focus on young people.

0:40:540:40:56

I think Pastor John has done really well coming here.

0:40:580:41:00

I don't see any people from the church, over here,

0:41:000:41:03

going out into the streets and asking people about church

0:41:030:41:07

and all that different stuff.

0:41:070:41:08

No-one else has tried it before, and someone should have.

0:41:080:41:13

Pastor John's frustrated.

0:41:130:41:15

He thinks members of the church should be doing more

0:41:150:41:18

in areas like this.

0:41:180:41:20

The Christians here are not true Christians, frankly speaking.

0:41:200:41:25

If they don't have...if they don't have an urge within themselves

0:41:250:41:30

to share the gospel, what they believe to other people,

0:41:300:41:33

it cannot make you a true Christian.

0:41:330:41:35

Learning about Chloe's vibrant services has confirmed to John

0:41:350:41:39

that the Congregational Church needs a fresh approach.

0:41:390:41:43

And music is the key.

0:41:430:41:46

In Malawi, music is at the very heart of Pastor John's approach

0:41:460:41:50

to worship and conversion.

0:41:500:41:52

He thinks it brings his congregation closer to God.

0:41:520:41:55

In Britain, the average age of churchgoers is over 50,

0:41:580:42:02

and set to rise as conventional services

0:42:020:42:05

fail to appeal to the young.

0:42:050:42:07

John's determined to buck the trend.

0:42:070:42:09

He's planning an African-style musical service.

0:42:090:42:12

In Malawi, we bring music,

0:42:130:42:15

we bring equipment, people dance, people sing,

0:42:150:42:18

and people come because they want to actually enjoy singing,

0:42:180:42:22

you know, and then after that, when they are there,

0:42:220:42:24

enjoying their music, it's when we preach to them.

0:42:240:42:27

So, I believe that's what I'm also going to do here

0:42:270:42:30

and see if we can take it out and then do something for the church.

0:42:300:42:34

I know if they tried this style, it will work.

0:42:340:42:36

They want somebody young to encourage them and make the message happy.

0:42:360:42:43

Not just Bible thumping, but let them enjoy it.

0:42:430:42:47

To ensure his message hits the target with young people,

0:42:500:42:54

John wants to hold his musical service in the local skate park,

0:42:540:42:58

but he needs the support of the Deacon's Court first.

0:42:580:43:00

Because most of the young people that I meet in the streets,

0:43:010:43:04

it's like they are not interested with, "Church, Church, Church".

0:43:040:43:08

Things like those.

0:43:080:43:09

That's why I thought, maybe, why can't we take it to the skate park

0:43:090:43:13

and see if they will come?

0:43:130:43:14

You've been out and about, you've done what you want to do,

0:43:140:43:19

so, why do you want to take the church

0:43:190:43:21

to a place that it doesn't go?

0:43:210:43:24

Why should the church go there? Because we don't go there.

0:43:240:43:27

That's the very answer why we should.

0:43:270:43:29

Church should go to places where the church doesn't normally go to.

0:43:290:43:33

These young people, some of them feel that they are not actually good with churches.

0:43:330:43:37

Why can't we just do it outside?

0:43:370:43:39

John, I'll make it very blunt.

0:43:390:43:41

In the evening,

0:43:410:43:43

the skate park's not a place that the congregation would go to.

0:43:430:43:47

Because they don't feel safe.

0:43:470:43:49

If you had it solely, for instance, at the skate park,

0:43:490:43:54

you would lose the number of people who really want to be there for you.

0:43:540:43:58

We don't need to be inside, John, even if we are here.

0:43:580:44:01

We could still be outside.

0:44:010:44:03

You know, with the doors open. The band could be here, as well.

0:44:030:44:08

Why not try and have it in two venues?

0:44:080:44:13

Have part of the evening here,

0:44:130:44:15

and have part of the evening at the skate park?

0:44:150:44:19

Say whatever you want and decide.

0:44:190:44:22

You'll get support.

0:44:220:44:25

It's a reluctant thumbs up for John's event,

0:44:250:44:27

settled with a compromise.

0:44:270:44:28

The service at the skate park

0:44:280:44:31

and a barbecue event, after, back at the church.

0:44:310:44:34

They cannot see why it is important, now,

0:44:340:44:36

but I think when they come they will see why we're doing it outside.

0:44:360:44:40

It's because they are afraid,

0:44:400:44:42

because they have never done it before.

0:44:420:44:44

John's pleased at the outcome,

0:44:440:44:46

but now he has to persuade the community

0:44:460:44:48

to come out and meet the church at his event.

0:44:480:44:51

Chloe, John's local native agent,

0:44:540:44:57

is helping put the word out on the streets of Blantyre.

0:44:570:45:00

Live music, gospel artists from Africa.

0:45:000:45:03

People playing band music, drums, what-what-what.

0:45:030:45:06

-Wednesday?

-Wednesday.

-OK.

0:45:060:45:09

-On Wednesday. You coming?

-When?

-From, from, from 6pm. You know?

0:45:120:45:18

-You having something here at night?

-That's right. Here at night.

0:45:180:45:21

So we are looking for young couples, young people that maybe would like to come.

0:45:210:45:24

We're not a couple.

0:45:240:45:26

-Let me introduce you. My name is John.

-Thank you so much.

0:45:270:45:30

-I am John, as well.

-Right, so is he.

0:45:300:45:33

John's not just handing out flyers.

0:45:330:45:36

If he has any chance of succeeding in his mission,

0:45:360:45:38

he knows he's going to have to forge stronger bonds.

0:45:380:45:41

Pastor John, you'll be with this team here.

0:45:410:45:44

He's back at the youth centre

0:45:440:45:46

and he's got his boots on.

0:45:460:45:48

I've scored three goals.

0:45:510:45:55

They are good. I think what matters is just association.

0:45:550:45:58

It's very important, and build relationships.

0:45:580:46:00

This is the best way that we have used so far.

0:46:000:46:03

Unwavering in his mission of encouraging young people

0:46:030:46:06

to see Christianity in a new light, John sees opportunities everywhere.

0:46:060:46:10

He's joining the local Boys' Brigade on a trip.

0:46:120:46:14

# My god is good! #

0:46:140:46:17

Give me high five before I play.

0:46:210:46:24

In the name of Jesus.

0:46:250:46:28

The Brigade is run by the Congregational Church.

0:46:280:46:31

But the boys who join it are under no obligation

0:46:310:46:34

to attend church services and they often don't.

0:46:340:46:37

Like many of the boys, 16-year-old Jack is a lapsed churchgoer.

0:46:370:46:41

I just don't go to church. I used to go to church when I was younger.

0:46:410:46:44

But, as a family, we just stopped.

0:46:440:46:48

At that time, or around it, Boys' Brigade, we were just kept in the Boys' Brigade.

0:46:480:46:52

Just because it's so much fun.

0:46:520:46:53

John Murray has been involved with the brigade for 40 years.

0:46:530:46:58

Boys know instinctively who's a good person and who's not good person.

0:46:580:47:02

They'll shy away from someone who's not within their scope.

0:47:020:47:07

But Pastor John, he's made a score with them,

0:47:070:47:10

so he must've been a good guy, and they've reacted to him.

0:47:100:47:15

God is on his side right now.

0:47:170:47:20

The missionary methods that Livingstone practised in Africa

0:47:200:47:23

were advanced and liberal for the time.

0:47:230:47:26

He gave medical help, taught English,

0:47:260:47:30

and immersed himself in day-to-day native life.

0:47:300:47:33

In modern-day Malawi, Livingstone's legacy is still evident.

0:47:340:47:38

Pastor John's door is always open, and locals come to him for advice,

0:47:380:47:43

both spiritual and practical.

0:47:430:47:45

The first problem that he had is I think he had an accident

0:47:480:47:51

and then he broke the hand.

0:47:510:47:53

There's two pain inside his body,

0:47:530:47:55

so he's looking for prayer that God can heal that pain.

0:47:550:47:58

The other problem is that he's saying he's HIV-positive,

0:47:580:48:01

but the wife is not.

0:48:010:48:02

So, there is a battle in the house.

0:48:020:48:05

He is looking for us to help, to intervene

0:48:050:48:07

so that the marriage can be stabilised.

0:48:070:48:09

So I've told that he has to come here together with his wife,

0:48:090:48:12

then I can offer them counselling.

0:48:120:48:13

John's putting some of his strategies from Malawi

0:48:130:48:17

into practice in Scotland.

0:48:170:48:18

Dawn, one of the Boys' Brigade mums,

0:48:180:48:21

lost her Christian faith

0:48:210:48:23

after her brother died in a car crash aged just 21.

0:48:230:48:26

John's meeting her to give her some spiritual guidance.

0:48:270:48:32

To me, it was so personal.

0:48:320:48:33

Why... How could he take away a young man in his prime?

0:48:330:48:37

We don't choose to be born.

0:48:370:48:39

And we don't choose to die.

0:48:390:48:41

It's just what God has established.

0:48:410:48:44

Death is part of life.

0:48:440:48:45

If we are born, we are waiting to die.

0:48:450:48:48

I think you have to really have a true, strong belief

0:48:480:48:52

in God to believe that.

0:48:520:48:55

The best thing that you can do is not to blame God.

0:48:550:48:59

Let it not break your heart.

0:49:000:49:03

It actually pleased God to take him back.

0:49:030:49:06

But you must have hope that whoever died, in the world,

0:49:060:49:10

it's not finished.

0:49:100:49:12

There is another life

0:49:120:49:13

after this life.

0:49:130:49:15

Thank you.

0:49:150:49:17

Let God give you the peace.

0:49:170:49:19

God bless you.

0:49:190:49:20

I didn't get the answers,

0:49:250:49:28

really a definitive answer,

0:49:280:49:31

but, I think, a direction has now been given.

0:49:310:49:36

I've wanted God back in my life,

0:49:360:49:39

I've just never found the stepping stone, the first step.

0:49:390:49:43

But having spoken to Pastor John, I think I've found my way again.

0:49:430:49:49

Buoyed by the connection he's made with Dawn, John's spreading

0:49:520:49:55

the word of his gospel event with vigour.

0:49:550:49:58

He wants to cast his net as wide as possible,

0:49:580:50:00

and attract not just Blantyre's kids, but their mums too.

0:50:000:50:05

How are you, everybody? Thank you so much. I'm Pastor John.

0:50:160:50:19

I'm coming from Malawi.

0:50:190:50:21

You people, Zumba people are not in church.

0:50:210:50:24

So, I brought church to Zumba.

0:50:240:50:26

I'm inviting you on Wednesday at the Blantyre skate park

0:50:280:50:31

from 6:30 to 7:30.

0:50:310:50:33

Be there and may God bless you for your time.

0:50:330:50:36

God bless you for listening to me. Amen.

0:50:360:50:38

-Morning, John.

-Morning. How are you today? Fine, thanks. How are you?

0:50:460:50:50

It's the day of the event, and John's helping to buy

0:50:500:50:53

supplies for the church barbecue, with one of the deacons, Irene.

0:50:530:50:57

OK, that's tomato ketchup.

0:50:570:50:59

We're having a barbecue up at the church, tonight, so if you're not doing anything, come up for a roll.

0:50:590:51:04

I might pop along, then.

0:51:040:51:06

Tonight, I'm only hoping that when Pastor John is speaking to them,

0:51:060:51:11

that he doesn't frighten some of them off.

0:51:110:51:14

He's got the African spirit in him.

0:51:140:51:16

We're not the jump up and jump about church. We're a more sedate church.

0:51:160:51:21

Today, it's like, whatever we're doing, in all these weeks,

0:51:210:51:25

we actually doing for this day.

0:51:250:51:27

People will see something new, that maybe they've never seen, and I believe they're going to enjoy.

0:51:270:51:31

Down at the skate park, the marquee is going up.

0:51:420:51:45

The PA system is being unpacked and Pastor John is in his Sunday best.

0:51:450:51:50

Hello.

0:51:510:51:53

170 years after Livingstone left Scotland on his missionary travels,

0:51:580:52:02

African drums are calling the youth of Blantyre.

0:52:020:52:06

And they seem to be working on the older folk, too.

0:52:100:52:14

The Congregational Church members have overcome their anxieties about venturing out to the skate park.

0:52:140:52:21

Let me welcome each one of you that are here today,

0:52:210:52:25

I'm Pastor John, from Malawi. God bless you for your coming.

0:52:250:52:28

For a few minutes I want to share the word of God with you.

0:52:280:52:31

I'm waiting for you, come, brothers and sisters, come.

0:52:310:52:35

Now, he's got the church to come out and meet the community,

0:52:350:52:39

can John's energetic and passionate brand of worship have an impact?

0:52:390:52:43

Let me pray for you. Come closer. Come closer. Come closer.

0:52:430:52:49

Put the hand of your neighbour. I want to pray for you.

0:52:490:52:53

Father, I pray in the name of Jesus for my brothers

0:52:530:52:56

and sisters that are here today.

0:52:560:52:58

I've spoken, to them, your word.

0:53:000:53:03

And your word is alive. A seed has been planted in their lives.

0:53:030:53:09

I pray by the power of the Holy Spirit,

0:53:090:53:11

let this seed grow in them.

0:53:110:53:14

-In the name of Jesus. Somebody say amen.

-Amen.

-God bless you so much.

0:53:140:53:21

Let's clap hands for Jesus.

0:53:210:53:24

THEY SING

0:53:240:53:27

I've never been to church, but I thought it did make sense.

0:53:330:53:36

Made me want to believe in it more.

0:53:360:53:38

A lot of ministers, it's dead quiet, and shy,

0:53:380:53:41

but he definitely expressed it well.

0:53:410:53:46

Here we just sit and read Bibles and talk,

0:53:510:53:55

whereas there's music and a little bit of dancing, I enjoyed it.

0:53:550:53:59

It was something different and I think

0:53:590:54:01

if we had that here I'd go to church more often.

0:54:010:54:03

I really enjoyed being with you, here. I've made a lot of friends.

0:54:030:54:07

And I want to appreciate you for actually opening up yourself

0:54:070:54:12

and talking to me.

0:54:120:54:13

The skate park kids are impressed enough to make it back to the church barbecue.

0:54:160:54:20

It was good, and it was different, as well.

0:54:230:54:25

After seeing him I would consider, definitely,

0:54:250:54:28

getting up on a Sunday after a hangover and going to church.

0:54:280:54:32

It was a success and Pastor John proved us wrong.

0:54:340:54:38

He got the people out.

0:54:400:54:43

So, that's what it's all about.

0:54:430:54:45

He has shown to us that going out into the community

0:54:450:54:49

and meeting the people out there, rather than going and inviting them in here,

0:54:490:54:54

is a first stepping stone to bringing them into the church.

0:54:540:54:58

He's such a friendly, friendly chap. The people have loved him.

0:54:580:55:02

They've taken him to their hearts, because they have loved him.

0:55:020:55:05

He's so genuine.

0:55:050:55:06

It's just a pity he couldn't stay a wee bit longer.

0:55:060:55:09

-Would it make you go to church?

-Yes, actually.

0:55:090:55:12

I think it would, yeah.

0:55:120:55:14

It was good. It was lively.

0:55:140:55:16

I think he's built up the curiosity, again, in people.

0:55:160:55:19

Of what the church is and what the church means.

0:55:190:55:21

One of the key things I've learned from this experience

0:55:230:55:26

is finding the next generation, trying to target them, in a way,

0:55:260:55:32

and tell them that church is relevant for them.

0:55:320:55:36

That is the key, possibly, to the survival of the church.

0:55:360:55:39

Wow! Thank you.

0:55:390:55:42

-See, when you're eating out, you'll remember Blantyre.

-Sure!

0:55:420:55:47

-Great.

-Thank you so much.

0:55:470:55:48

God bless you so much. I really appreciate it. Haggis.

0:55:480:55:53

He's left the message that if you go out there

0:55:590:56:02

and spend time with the kids and speak to them

0:56:020:56:05

at their level, that you'd maybe get more children in.

0:56:050:56:09

I think he'll be talked about for a while. That's for sure.

0:56:090:56:14

-Right, thanks. Bye-bye.

-Bye.

-Bye.

0:56:140:56:18

He has a mission in life. And I hope he fulfils it.

0:56:180:56:21

John's hopeful that the ideas he is sowing on his mission

0:56:210:56:25

will blossom in Blantyre.

0:56:250:56:28

I know that the seed that has been planted in people's lives,

0:56:280:56:31

that seed will never die, and cannot die.

0:56:310:56:34

So, I know that seed will keep on growing.

0:56:340:56:37

I'll be at my home in Africa

0:56:370:56:39

but I'll still be praying for that seeds to grow in their lives.

0:56:390:56:43

So, I know the things that I've started will really grow,

0:56:430:56:46

and with time, people will see what has happened today.

0:56:460:56:50

Before Pastor John leaves for Malawi and home,

0:56:520:56:55

he wants to pay his respects to Dr David Livingstone in person.

0:56:550:57:00

Livingstone died in Africa aged 60, after years of ill health.

0:57:020:57:06

His wish was that he remained in the continent that he loved.

0:57:060:57:10

Livingstone's heart was buried in Africa

0:57:100:57:12

but his body was buried at Westminster Abbey in 1874.

0:57:120:57:17

To me it's a great honour.

0:57:170:57:19

Something that I did not expect to happen in my life.

0:57:200:57:24

I feel honoured to respect one of the great men

0:57:240:57:28

that ever existed as a missionary in this world.

0:57:280:57:32

I really know that they really honoured him, taking him here,

0:57:370:57:42

and putting him here.

0:57:420:57:44

It's like he's one of the pillars of the United Kingdom.

0:57:440:57:48

To me it's like I've just seen the whole life of Livingstone,

0:57:480:57:51

cos I've been where he was born and now it's where he laid to rest.

0:57:510:57:57

My prayer is that his soul rest in peace.

0:57:570:58:00

Next time, Kshama Jayaraj, from Mumbai, comes to Belfast.

0:58:060:58:10

Inspired by Victorian missionary Amy Carmichael who helped spread

0:58:100:58:15

Christianity in southern India,

0:58:150:58:17

but can a modern-day missionary

0:58:170:58:19

break down age-old barriers of prejudice?

0:58:190:58:22

Nobody is going to ask whether you are A group or B group.

0:58:220:58:26

We'll never be in the Shankill Road. They'll know we're not from there. They're going to start something.

0:58:260:58:31

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