Episode 2 A Question of Sport


Episode 2

Sue Barker, Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell are joined by Paralympian Sarah Storey, boxer Audley Harrison, rugby league star Ashton Sims and Superbike world champion Neil Hodgson.


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Joining the team tonight are...

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speed demon Neil Hodgson,

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cycling royalty Sarah Storey.

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Rugby league powerhouse Ashton Sims and Olympic champion boxer,

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Audley Harrison.

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Who will be triumphant this time on A Question Of Sport?

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APPLAUSE

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Hello and welcome to A Question Of Sport.

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Tonight, Matt is joined by two who are fast on two wheels and

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Phil looks in safe hands with two you wouldn't argue with.

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It is speed versus power tonight and we're going to start with

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a Picture Board.

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OK, Matt. Let's see how you get on with these.

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Your time will start when you give me the first number. All right.

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So, we're all going to shout them out. Yeah? Right.

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You know it, shout it. We will start with number four, please, Sue.

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That's, erm, Cam... Pangalin, Pangalo...

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No. Pangalo, Pangalen... No.

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Panga... Payet.

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Yes, it is.

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Number three.

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It's Bradley Smith. Yes.

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He looks just like you. Number two, number two!

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Jody Cundy.

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Number one. Great stuff, Sarah.

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Beef! Yes, it is. Andrew Johnston. Number five.

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Oh, it's Luke. It's Luke Thomson.

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No. Luke Campbell. Yes. Six.

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Kerstin Brachtendorf. Get in there! Number seven.

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Harry Kane. Yes.

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Number eight.

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Marc Marquez. Yes. Get in! 12.

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Wawrinka. Wawrinka?

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Stan Wawrinka. Yes, it is. 11. AP McCoy. Yes.

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Number Ten.

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Amla.

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No, it's, erm, no, it's...

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Moeen Ali. Yes!

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END OF ROUND WHISTLE

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Just in time.

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APPLAUSE

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Moeen Ali right on the buzzer. You get it and you score 11 points.

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Great start.

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APPLAUSE

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Well done, team.

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Don't worry, boys.

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Don't worry. You don't look happy. No. No.

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Don't want none of your lip either, Dawson. Otherwise you're getting sorted out later on.

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We're ready. So, shout them out when you know them. Yep. OK.

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When you know them, shout out, boys.

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And if we don't know them just, just keep shouting things.

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Just shout things. Just shout random names. Here we go. OK.

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In your own time. One, please, Sue.

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LeBron James. Yes. Two, please.

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Cameron Smith. Yes. Three, please.

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Bellew. Yes. Three, four.

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Steve Stricker. Yes. Five.

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Martinez. No.

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It's not Angelique Kerber?

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Kerber? No. Move on. Move on.

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Six, please.

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Mitchell Starc.

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Great shout. Seven.

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Ibrahimovic. Yes. Eight.

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Steve McNamara. Yes.

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Nine. Go on. Have a look.

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Roy Jones? Yes. Roy Jones! 10.

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Oh, what's her name?

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She just... Johnson-Thompson. Yes.

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11, 11, 11.

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Noble. Yes. Noble. 12.

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Farrell. Farrell. Yes. Owen Farrell. Yes! Owen Farrell. Yes.

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APPLAUSE

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Stop slapping me when we get something wrong.

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LAUGHTER

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He's a bit delicate. Be gentle with him. Stop hugging me, boys.

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When we do something right. I'll never last the show.

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The only one you missed was a tennis player.

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Britain's Jo Konta. Johanna Konta.

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But a great start as well. Both teams are tied. Both on 11.

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APPLAUSE

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Well done.

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It's Sports Action now. Pens at the ready.

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Make a note of who you see and where the action is taking place.

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Just enough to regroup.

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As Akira tries to slither his way through.

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It's try time for Italy.

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Kleberson. Rivaldo's dummy.

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It's 2-0.

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They're punching the air with delight behind the Olympic champion.

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And he has done it and he's done it in style.

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That was a good shot by the American. Clean, crisp shot.

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He could be doing with an awful lot more of those.

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Oh, there might be a wicket here.

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Up goes umpire Steve Bucknor's finger.

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And he's got that. What a try.

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They're side-by-side and the flag is up.

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Oh, dear me. Look at that.

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OK, Matt. Your team can go first. Here is our world map, OK?

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You have to name a star you saw in action and if you get that

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right then you have a chance of a bonus point to tell

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me where the action took place. So...we just need the person first.

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Neil McKenzie. Is correct. Yes. Good, good. So, now...

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And the... Where is the track? Thruxton which is number five.

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Which is number five. Let's see. Come on! Yes, well done. Two points.

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We've got the rugby. Yeah. And the cricket one. Yeah.

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It's got to be a given. Where was your rugby being played?

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I reckon 12. Go on, then. Kallum Watkins. Correct, yes. So...

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And what are you going to select? 12.

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Number 12, you're going for Australia. Yeah.

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Correct. Well done.

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Do we get two points? Yes. Bonus point. Yeah.

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Bonus point for where it is? One point for the person.

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A bonus point if you get the place right, too. So, Matt.

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I mean, we should really. We are struggling a bit with the cycling.

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If that's an option, there. That's that. And that's him. Bronze.

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Right. OK. Road time trial. Yes. OK. Have we got a yes? Possibly.

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What percentage, how confident are we with this? She's not.

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It's not oozing confidence, is it? No. No.

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I mean, there's confidence... Looking 50-50, isn't it?

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We have Matt, I'm telling you right now... But there's definitely...

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..that, my friend, is there. No, but he definitely did win that there.

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It's whether that was the right clip. OK.

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Are they likely to get it? No. OK. So we can wait a little bit?

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We can hold. If we've got another one I'd be very happy.

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All I'm thinking is the rugby surely is the Italian because that's

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the only other one in...

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No, it wasn't in Murrayfield.

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No, because it was Italy versus France. So it was Castrogiovanni.

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Correct, yes. In, um, in wherever Italy is. Number six. Six.

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Number six. OK.

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Is it correct? Yes, it is. Well done. Two points.

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APPLAUSE

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We've got that.

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Should have kept that till later.

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Maybe nicked one of theirs. Yeah.

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Now. OK. Go for your, your boxing.

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I'm going boxing. What was his name? Deontay Wilder.

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Yes, is right, so that's one point.

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And I'm going 2008 Beijing Olympics. OK.

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Which is number...

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Which one's Beijing? Not falling for that, sunshine.

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Not falling for that one, sunshine. We know it.

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Now, it's not over that side. It's not left.

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It's over here somewhere so it's either nine, ten or 11.

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That's not my answer.

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I'm going to bring it down so, nine looks like Phuket.

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I've been there on holiday. Well, that's what it looks like.

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That looks like Phuket. Is it?

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Yeah, so that kind of, that rules out Phuket. Yeah. I never knew that.

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And then so it's, and then... 11 looks like it's out in the reef.

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That looks like the Barrier Reef or something. Barrier Reef?

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It's not Australia. It's got to be ten. You going ten? Yeah. Right.

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Let's see. Are you right, Audley? Yes, you are. Well done.

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Always. Always. All right now, what else have you put?

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Right. OK. We can go with...

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We can go with the tennis.

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Had that one.

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Oh, did you have that one, did you? The Davis Cup final?

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Or maybe we'll go for... Final? It was Wimbledon, wasn't it?

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What, the Davis Cup? Yeah, it wasn't the final.

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Semifinal.

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That's your Serbia? Yeah.

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I better scratch out Wimbledon? Yeah.

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LAUGHTER

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So maybe we'll go for that. Will they have another one?

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It's tactics here. Cor, just do the tennis.

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Shall we do...has he got...does he think it's the final?

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No, it was Serbia, wasn't it? Serbia.

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I'll let you make the decision.

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I only made that decision when I saw that number. Oh, did you? Yeah.

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So, you didn't actually see him? No.

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I heard the words "Olympic champion." Ah. Tennis sounds better.

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She's definitely not confident, is she? Come on, Sarah.

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Oh, we need his name? Mm-hm. Oh.

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Edmund. Edmund. You've just answered.

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Oh, yes. We've sort of just given them the answer, haven't we?

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You didn't just sort of. He's written it down.

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I actually didn't hear it. So, we best go with Kyle Edmund.

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You're going with Kyle Edmund and where are you going for?

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You said which country it is. Number seven. Number seven. Serbia.

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Well done. Yes, it is.

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APPLAUSE

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So, last go.

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Oh, last go. Do you want the batsman or the bowler? Bowler, please.

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Bowler? Darren Lehmann. Is correct.

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And we're going to go for South Africa, number eight. Oh, yeah.

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Let's have a look.

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No! TUFFERS SCREAMS

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Cheeky! It was in Malaysia. Kuala Lumpur.

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It was the 1998 Commonwealth Games final. There you go.

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DISDAINFULLY: Commonwealth Games?

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Yeah, a bit of a tricky one in there, you see.

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Did you see how smug his face was? LAUGHTER

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Just to fill in the blanks, though, did you know the cyclist?

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Chris Boardman.

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No, it was Miguel Indurain we were looking for,

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and that was in the USA.

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And Ronaldo was the other one we were looking for.

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Japan, because that was in the World Cup Final.

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So, end of that round, Phil is on 16, Matt in front on 17.

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APPLAUSE

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It is time for the captains to face the wall, but this week,

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both of you will be playing along, so up you come.

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OK, I will ask you a series of questions that each have

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three correct answers on the wall.

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You both have 30 seconds on your own clock to get through

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the three questions. Right.

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Your time will be stopped when you hit the buzzer after each run. OK.

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So are you going to fly out the blocks or are you going to

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take your time?

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You see, you may run out of time for your third question, so, Matt...

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I think I'll fly out the box and take me time.

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OK, fine!

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So, here is your first wall that you have to face.

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So have a look at that. OK. Matt, you're going first. Right. OK. OK?

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OK.

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Which three of these sports were contested at

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the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow?

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Which three of these sports WERE contested at

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the 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow?

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Off you go. Oh!

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Er, OK, I'm going to go with that, that and that.

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Ooh. Oh, no, BMX is wrong, isn't it? BUZZER

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OK, your clock has stopped.

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You have got two right. Oh!

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You're absolutely right, yes, it wasn't BMX,

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the one we were looking for...

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Bowls. Yes. Oh.

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So those were the three correct answers,

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but you only took seven seconds, so you've got plenty of time for the...

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But he got nothing. He got two points. Oh, two points, right.

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Yeah. I got two points. He's got two points. That's fine.

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Hey, Phil, get the steal. Shout them out.

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Which three of these three sports HAVE been contested at the

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summer Olympics? They HAVE been contested at the Summer Olympics.

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Summer Olympics! Water polo. Yeah. Baseball, and... Where's baseball?

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Netball, is it? No, no. Karate! Karate. No, it's not come back yet.

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No, karate, it's too late, I'm running out of time.

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BUZZER Boom! Right.

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You also got two correct. Oh! We'll take two, take two.

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APPLAUSE BMX, BMX.

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Oh, BMX! Shanaze Reade.

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Yes, water polo and baseball,

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the one YOU wanted was the one Matt had...

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BMX! Yes, BMX was the right one. Reade.

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12 seconds, though. Ooh, 12! Little bit of indecision there.

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Going to have to get going now. Yes, you took your time.

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Right, Matt, here is your new wall.

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Oh, oh, oh, hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You've got 23 seconds left on the clock.

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Your question is -

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which three of these countries HAVE hosted the FIFA World Cup?

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Your time starts now.

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Have hosted? HAVE hosted the FIFA World Cup.

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PANTS INDECISIVELY

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Oh! That was a total guess. You've got that right.

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BUZZER Have I?

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You've got ONE right. One?! USA.

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SCATTERED APPLAUSE

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USA is right, but not the Netherlands and Hungary.

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I deserved that one clap that I got over there.

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APPLAUSE

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No, I did, and you were absolutely right.

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You're absolutely right.

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Well, it wasn't easy, because the right answers were

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Chile back in 1962 and Switzerland in '54, so a while back.

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But it only took nine seconds there,

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so you've got plenty of time... Story of my life, Sue.

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Right, boys, we have to be quick here. Skates on.

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Tuffers, which three countries have NEVER won

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a Winter Olympics gold medal?

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Have NEVER won an Olympics gold medal. Winter Olympics!

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Chile. Winter Olympics. China. No, not China. Belgium. Belgium. Oof!

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Oh, good shout. Good shout.

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BUZZER Oh, you scored two!

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APPLAUSE Very good, very good.

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I know Hungary have. I've never scored... Iceland can't be right.

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Iceland was right, and Chile was right, but it wasn't Belgium,

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it was... Netherlands. ..Hungary. Oh. Hungary.

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OK, Matt, you've got 14 seconds left... Have I? OK.

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..so plenty of time.

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Which three of these tennis players HAVE won an Olympic gold medal?

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HAVE? Have. Off you go. Oh!

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An Olympic gold medal, singles or doubles. OK.

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And... I like that one. You've got lots of time. OK, all right.

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Hup! BUZZER

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Two! Oh, take that! Two right. APPLAUSE

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Yep, Jennifer Capriati in singles in 19...

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Oh, I'm really surprised at that, myself. That's good, yeah.

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And also, Fernando Gonzalez was doubles in 2004.

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Michael Chang, no? No, no, it was Victoria Azarenka.

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Mixed doubles in 2012. Mixed doubles in 2012. How long have I got, Sue?

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You have nine seconds to hit the buzzer.

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Oh, I've got that, I've got that. Nine seconds.

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Got to be quick, though. Oh, you've got this.

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Here's your question.

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Which three of these tennis players HAVE reached

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a Wimbledon singles final? Off you go.

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Courier. Er, Jennifer Capriati. Arthur Ashe! And...

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No, Jennifer Capriati! SUE LAUGHS

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BUZZER He's in, he's in, well done.

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Why did you not listen to him? APPLAUSE

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I did it! I couldn't hear.

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That's all right. Arthur Ashe! Arthur Ashe. Mats Wilander.

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You scored two. Oh! Happy with that. APPLAUSE

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I'll take that. Arthur Ashe, as you said, won it in '75.

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Jim Courier was in the final in '93. The one you were missing was...

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Capriati.

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Sabatini. Oh, Sabatini! Gabriela Sabatini.

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That's the one you were thinking of.

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Yeah, yeah. I watched that one.

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I was too busy watching Tuffers run this way.

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Ready to catch him. Yeah!

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And after that high-scoring round, the teams are now level, both on 22.

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APPLAUSE

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Well now, will the guests play safe and stay home,

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or risk all and go away?

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Neil, coming to you first. Home or away?

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I think I've got to go home, haven't I?

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I think you've got such good knowledge.

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Don't put me under pressure. I'm going to go home. Home.

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In the 2015 Superbike World Championship,

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who broke a sequence of 24 consecutive victories for

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British riders by winning the first race in Qatar?

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That's thrown you.

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You thought you were going to get a Moto GP question, didn't you?

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Yeah, exactly. I don't know much about Superbikes.

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I should get this, that's why it's...

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Did you ever race in the Superbikes? Yes, I did.

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Mainly in the Superbikes, in fact.

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It was a slightly tongue-in-cheek question. Yeah, yeah.

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What other countries are good in the old Superbikes, then?

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MATT CLEARS THROAT Spain. No, they're not.

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Not in Superbikes. America.

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No. Er, Italy.

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Yes. But then there's only Giugliano, and he's fat.

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I know this is wrong, but I'm going to say Davide Giugliano. Er, no.

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It is Jordi Torres.

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Do you know what? I put Torres down. Oh, no! But I thought...

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Where's he from? Spain. But I thought...

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Bad luck, Neil, that was a toughie.

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Having heard that, Ashton, do you want to go home or away? Home. Home?

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Home, please. You've got this.

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Who, in his last game in England,

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scored a try in the 2015 Super League Grand Final,

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having twice been the NRL's leading try scorer, in 2005 and 2007?

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Who have you got? What's his name? Matthew Bowen. Matthew Bowen? Yeah.

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I think... Go on. I think he's... I'm just trying to think if it's...

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Pressure. I know you haven't got one. It's Leeds.

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I know four have retired from Leeds, but they...

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None of them played in Australia.

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You don't do clues on this show? Nope.

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I've got it! Go on. Do you reckon? Yeah, go on.

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If I get it wrong... He's a good mate of mine. Matty Bowen?

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Is the right answer! APPLAUSE

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Well done. Sarah, home or away? Home, please. Home.

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Who, in 2013, having won gold and bronze in World Cup road races,

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won her first World Championship medal with bronze in the time trial,

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all in the C5 category?

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It's not Davide Giugliano, if that's where you're going.

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OK. Is that all in the same year? Is that what Sue was saying there?

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Yeah. The year I wasn't racing, cos I had a baby.

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Oh, how tricky!

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It's mainly just these two and me.

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Right. Which makes me think it's her.

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Other than Samantha, do you know any others?

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One or two who are decent at the time trial and you think

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could have been in there? Just to throw some names around.

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Well, the girl that got on the podium in 2012 retired,

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and then those two have been on the podium with me all the other times.

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So just the three of you, that's it? Pretty much. Wow.

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So, what are you going to go for?

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Kerstin Brachtendorf. No, it wasn't.

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What was the other name you had down there?

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Samantha Heinrich. That's the right answer.

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Oh! Oh! Exactly the same.

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You've done a Hodgson.

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You've written it down and you didn't go for it. That is not good.

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Well, right, Audley. Chance here. Home or away? Home.

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I'm going to go home. Jot it down.

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Which former world heavyweight champion lost

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a world title fight to Vitali Klitschko in 2010,

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and this year fought in his 68th fight and first in the UK?

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Heavyweight. Can only be one man. Oh!

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He's come to Britain, and he fought him. Yeah.

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I'm just going through it, make sure I'm right. Yeah.

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He fought him, he ruptured his shoulder.

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But I don't know if he's had 68 fights. That's a lot. Who is it?

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Shannon Briggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was over here. He WAS over here...

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Is he fit? Has he fought? He fought Klitschko,

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and I'm sure he fought on the undercard to David Haye.

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It has to be, yeah.

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It has to be, it can't be nobody else. Go on.

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Shannon Briggs. Fought Klitschko... Yes, it is.

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The American, Shannon Briggs. APPLAUSE

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Well, quite a difference after that round.

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Matt on 22, Phil in front on 24. APPLAUSE

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Plenty of points left. Mystery Guest time now.

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Matt, who is on the hunt for the perfect bottle?

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SWING MUSIC PLAYS

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That's well hard! Come on!

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And we've got just... Not a letter on our pads there, have we?

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I think...

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it was a Malbec. Oh, are we choosing what wine he was going for?

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I mean, come on. LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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We've got more chance of getting that, haven't we?

0:23:370:23:40

Do you know what?

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As you are the only person to have written on your pad... "Help?"

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..which is becoming a theme, we were all thinking the same.

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That was really difficult. Ginger. Ginger?

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Tall, lean, ginger.

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Tuffers was just a little bit too quiet there,

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which makes me think it was a cricketer. Yeah, definitely. Eyes.

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Very pretty eyes. Delicate hands. Did he have delicate hands?

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Did he? Didn't spot those.

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But he was of that shape. Or his beautiful eyes.

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Tall, lithe, sort of that... You know, languid.

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I can imagine him... "Have some of that, you dirty Aussies."

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Does he like Malbec? Sort him out, will you?

0:24:330:24:35

Ashton! Sorry! Get over there and... That's strike one.

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I'm sending the big fella over soon. Hold him back.

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Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Er, yeah, let's go with Stuart Broad.

0:24:410:24:46

You're going with Broady. OK, let's see.

0:24:460:24:49

Yeah, well done, the England bowler, Stuart Broad.

0:24:530:24:57

APPLAUSE

0:24:570:24:59

Well played. We'll take that. We'll take that. Really good. Good spot.

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Did you have that, Tuffers? Yes, we did. Well done.

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OK, good luck with yours. Who is this cleaning up in style?

0:25:060:25:10

ROCK AND ROLL MUSIC PLAYS

0:25:100:25:14

Yeah. Yeah. Happy with that? You happy? Happy with that, yeah?

0:26:020:26:05

Yeah, definitely. Definitely, all in agreement?

0:26:050:26:07

Rebecca Adlington, Sue. All right, let's see if you're right.

0:26:070:26:11

Course it is, the Olympic swimming champion. Well done, good, good.

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APPLAUSE Nice one. Huh? Yes, good.

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And at the end of that round, Matt's on 24, Phil still in front on 26.

0:26:250:26:29

APPLAUSE

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OK, teams, we are ending the show on the buzzer round.

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It's a point for a correct answer,

0:26:440:26:45

but it is one point away if you get it wrong. Everyone understand?

0:26:450:26:49

Yes, Sue. Fingers at the ready. Here we go.

0:26:490:26:53

Who were the only team to feature in two penalty shoot-outs at Euro 2016?

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Portugal. Poland. Oh! One point away.

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Who is the only Italian rider to have won

0:27:020:27:04

a Superbike World Championship?

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LAUGHTER The only ITALIAN rider...

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Italian, Giugliano. ..to have won... Sarah has to answer. You buzzed in.

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Say it. Oh, Giugliano. No!

0:27:130:27:15

LAUGHTER Max Biaggi, we're after.

0:27:150:27:19

Moving on, golfers from which country occupied three of the

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top four places at this year's Open Championship?

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Golfers from which country? Australia, Sweden...

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America. Yes.

0:27:290:27:31

Which Rugby League team play their home games at The Jungle?

0:27:310:27:34

Castleford Tigers? Yes.

0:27:350:27:38

Who did Anthony Joshua beat in the O2 this year to become

0:27:380:27:41

world champion for the first time?

0:27:410:27:43

Charles Martin. Yes. Good boy.

0:27:430:27:45

On which UK racetrack did the 2012 Paralympic Road Cycling take place?

0:27:450:27:50

Brands Hatch. Yes.

0:27:500:27:51

Which Briton partnered Henri Kontinen in the 2016...?

0:27:510:27:55

Er... Wats...on. Yes. Yes! Heather Watson.

0:27:550:27:59

SCATTERED APPLAUSE

0:27:590:28:00

INCREASED APPLAUSE Which rugby club won

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the English Premiership...? WHISTLE BLASTS

0:28:020:28:04

Oh, no! Oh! APPLAUSE

0:28:040:28:08

Oh, well done. Well done, my cheer team! Absolutely.

0:28:190:28:24

Heather Watson, a win by one point. Heather Watson, great shout.

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A huge thank you to all of our guests tonight.

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Well done to Ashton, to Audley,

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commiserations to Neil and Sarah. The three of us will be back soon.

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Until then, from all of us here, goodbye.

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APPLAUSE

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I have developed a technique to help me deal with annoying idiots.

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Sue Barker hosts another edition of the light-hearted sports quiz. Joining captains Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell are Paralympic legend Sarah Storey, British boxer Audley Harrison, Australian rugby league star Ashton Sims and Superbike world champion Neil Hodgson.


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