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Welcome to Wembley on FA Cup Final day.

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It's always one of the highlights of the season and today it sees

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the Premier League Champions, Chelsea, against an Arsenal

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team who could be saying goodbye to a manager who has

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It is absolutely brilliant. This is getting better and better. It comes

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to Ronaldo! History boys indeed. They have won the cup. They have won

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the cup. He has done it. He has done it! For me the first chance to do

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the double. We walk out at Wembley it is unbelievable.

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The dream for me to play in the Cup Final. Such a great competition. I

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hope we can win the double. Kick off 5.30pm, but fans have been

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asked to arrive early because there will be extra security

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after those terrible events There are more armed officers

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here today and the FA says there will be enhanced security

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for the 90,000 fans There will be a minute's

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silence before kick-off. The Duke of Cambridge will also lay

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a wreath before kick-off. What happened in Manchester

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on Monday night has deeply The football community often comes

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together at times like this. The two rivals across Manchester

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have been a City Uunited. Together they have donated

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?1 million to the emergency fund. No doubt there will be

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sombre tone to much And we have this on the way between

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now and 1 o'clock. You don't mind criticism, the lack

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of respect has been for me a disgrace.

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I think the concentration, you are able to fight to play this game

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against Arsenal. to have a big influence

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on proceedings at Wembley. With Celtic closing in on a season

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undefeated, we'll look back It was the conquering of Europe by a

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bunch of players drawn from a wee corner of a wee nation.

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as they prepare to take on Reading in Monday's ?170 million playoff.

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Ellis James goes toe to toe with Wrighty.

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Can you take this long? Neil Webb. You can't do that.

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And we have a whole afternoon of coverage ahead.

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Then there's the Road to Wembley at 2.40pm, an Arsene Wenger

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The history of the football joke presented by Omid Djalili follows

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that, and then at 4.15 it's the Cup Final build-up itself.

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Lots of great telly to come then - including

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Get the popcorn out, hide the remote and only leave

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after their budding bromance during our semi final show

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from Wembley, there was a huge demand to get the band back

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Three FA Cups as a player to Martin, a Cup win for Ruud as Manager.

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Although, if we're talking Top Trumps, a Ballon d'Or

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And he was the first overseas manager to win it. For me, I was

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watching the FA Cup when I was a kid, I remember these players, they

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had numbers on their socks, little flags with the number on it.

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Probably Leeds. Loved that. I would love to play like this. To be out

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there as a manager for the first time at Wembley I will never forget

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it. Does the weather, does it make a difference? It will be hot? Yes,

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look you're going to feel it. The most important thing is let the ball

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do the work. As a defender what frightens you is that green grass,

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the pitch looks massive. I'm not sure I would want too play against

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Hazard. But you have to love the occasion. This is the reason I came

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into the game. I watched the 74 Cup Final and wanted to be part of it

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and people show this as the show piece match. You need too start

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smiling yourself, Dan. There is a team talk. It is a great day and it

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is a privilege to be here. I'm quite happy already. We know that Chelsea

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are at a hotel in London and across from us is the Wembley Hilton where

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the Arsenal players are staying. They will get a coach, oom although

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it is a two and a half minute walk. What is the mind set, do you want to

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think about the final or anything but? That was my stance. Anything

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but the final. Lock it away until the next day. That can be difficult

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when it is outside the window. Maybe too close. I think that is the

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legacy of back in the day they stopped at a posh hotel and it took

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over an hour to get here. We were almost sea sick by the time we got

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here. What I like is when you arrive with the bus, you see the sea of

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fans and you go through that. You know, they want to cheer you up and

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you want to feel the hostility of the enemy and the joy of your own

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fans. That makes you, that is part of the build up and makes you...

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Today for Arsenal with Arsene Wenger, get behind Arsene Wenger

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today. It could be the last occasion that Arsene Wenger is a manager of

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this club and they need the fans to be united and to believe in him.

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Time to hear from Martin's ex-gaffer.

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Arsene Wenger has won the cup half a dozen times

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in 20 years at the club, but today could be his

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His future is due to be decided in the next couple of weeks,

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but he's certainly not going without landing a punch.

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I have always loved English football, the way football is

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created, people said a foreign coach could never be successful in

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England. How special was that first Cup Final, completed the double. But

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it was at the old Wembley. Yes and that makes a big difference. Because

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I have seen the first Cup Finals at the old Wembley and for me that was

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nearly a dream, it was really something special. To walk out there

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at Wembley with the tradition... Walk your team out is something

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exceptional. The first time you do that. It's really unbelievable.

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2006 to 2014 we had restricted finances and had to sell our best

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players and remain at the top. But we had to be in the Champions League

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and we had to make at least 54,000 average attendance to pay back our

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debt. I think that was the most difficult period of my life. As well

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with maybe I did the best work, if you give me the chance today again,

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I tell you, no thank you, let somebody else do it. Arsenal haven't

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won a trophy for 2,382 days. When you don't win for a while and we had

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the success before, everybody says, where are the trophies. It is a

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goal. Unbelievable start. Headed down. Hit the post. It is 2-0. It is

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knocked in. We're 2-0 down, we were shaky, nervous, we had to win. Right

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footed, swings it in. Great goal. Fabulous free kick from Cazorla and

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Arsenal are back in it. We came back in it and Ramsey scored and got us

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that first trophy we hadn't won for a while. On the night it was just a

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relief. Definition of madness, keep making the same mistakes thinking

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the outcome will be different. From top to bottom, there is no

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leadership. We have been made a laughing stock. Some of the

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criticism has been severe. You don't mind criticism. Because we are in

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the public job. The lack of respect in some stage has been for me a

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disgrace. And I will never accept that. I believe there is a

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difference between being criticised and being treated in a way that a

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human being, I don't deserve to be treated. I will never forget that.

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The behaviour of some people during the season... That hurts me most chl

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because behind the work and the respect for this club are the values

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this club respected and the image the club has given in recent weeks

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is absolutely unacceptable. Because it tarnishes the impeccable image

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that the club has. But because there are people who love you at

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Arsenal... I don't question that. I just think... And I know that I meet

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so many people who love this club and who I share the passion for the

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club. It's not my person that is hurt. I don't believe that kind of

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behaviour reflect what is Arsenal is and the values that Arsenal carries.

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Can you see that moment, will you walk out of dressing room for the

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last time, it has been your life. Of course I can see that. I'm not

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specially interested in that. We live in a society that's always very

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categorical and dismissive and I'm just interested in doing quality

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work each day and let others judge that. I believe some club is people

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who make decisions, no make the right decisions and that's why I

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think the board is important and the manager is important in a football

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club. What has gone wrong in the modern society it's not any more is

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this the right decision, but is this popular or not popular. It is to buy

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this player popular or not. Is to sack this manager, to employ this

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manager popular. But it has nothing to do with competence. People have

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to make the decision. People have to be strong to make decisions that are

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not popular. The more expensive a player is the more credit he gets.

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Nobody looks can he dribble, can he pass, can he kick the ball? He has

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cost ?150 million he must be exceptional. I think we have to keep

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it simple and just make the right decisions. Enjoy the weekend. Enjoy

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it because football is first when you get up in the morning, expect

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the game and expect some moments of happiness. That is why we love the

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game. Interesting stuff and there is more of that interview at 3.15.

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Could this be a seventh Cup Final win? We have the helicopter up there

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in the sky S welcome to a glorious Wembley Stadium. It looks beautiful.

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The heat in here becomes a little oppressive. On Arsene Wenger, he

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still loves the game, strong words about the board meeting that will

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take place in the next few weeks to decide his future. What to your mind

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is the best outcome forArsenal? It seems if he was to go now it doesn't

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give us a lot of time to get the next man. I feel he should be part

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of the process to work this through. But he seems defiant. He doesn't

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sound like a man who is about to go. He is calling out the board and

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asking them to not go with the popular decision. The fans are

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against him. You can't believe that's happened in the last 12 years

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from what he has achieved and he wants, you know it may not be

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popular, but he said make the right decision. Is he right there has been

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a lack of respect? It's difficult. Football is about

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winning. But only one can win. That doesn't necessarily make you a bad

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manager if you don't. I think Arsenal has had long opportunities

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to be on top, and I think he went with talent, not so much with

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players who have already achieved a lot. Sanchez is one, and Ozil now.

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But he needs more, especially in the defence. So therefore, I understand

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the fans. He also understands the fans, but he is fighting. He wants

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to continue, and I understand why. But I woke up this morning think it

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was obvious that this would be the last day. Why would Arsene Wenger

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commit to his future? Why create that uncertainty? Maybe he didn't

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want to announce that and go out on a fanfare and be lauded by the fans.

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He wants to go away quietly. Maybe he goes at the end of today, come

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what may. But in that interview, he was fighting. That was a different

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Arsene Wenger. It is his life. He doesn't want to let go of football.

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He said retirement is for old people. Old people die. But how

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serious it is for him. His life is dependent on staying in management.

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You say it could be his last game. Let's look at the probable team.

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There could be a number of issues at the back. Koscielny is suspended. He

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might be without others as well. Monreal is also a doubt. Holding

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will be taking on a full strength Chelsea seven. Haldane, ?1.5

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million. Mertesacker has only played 37 minutes of the season. Ospina

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coming in is a strange one. You can bet that two ways. You can say

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Arsene Wenger believes in all his players, but Petr Cech should be

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playing. You want that confident player with experience. Ruud, this

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guy has only played 37 minutes this season. The first time pasta put

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him, on the last minute of the transfer deadline, everyone was

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surprised. Of course, he did his part, but I don't think he has been

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the important part in defence. So therefore, if he doesn't play, it's

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even worse for him. But worse for Arsenal. We saw the game against

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Tottenham here. The moment has on Costa came in, the game changed. If

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you have players who are against you who can run at you and rebel at you,

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it's difficult, especially for him. He's been out in the cold for a long

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time and he is strong mentally. He is going to need to be. Wembley has

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been good to him. He screwed here for Germany. He is a big player and

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will have to call on all of his experience -- he scored here for

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Germany. It has been a turbulent time for Premier League managers

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generally. We saw the departure of David Moyes, Sam Allardyce leaving

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Crystal Palace. It's not a long term game for most people. The only

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certainty you have is that you get sacked! Therefore, prepare yourself

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for that. It is a hard world for managers now. People want instant

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success. And especially with all the millions now that English football

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clubs get, it's easy to get good players, so people expect a lot. It

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doesn't necessarily have the best players, because with the money you

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have, sometimes you see players where you think, hmm, would you buy

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that? But English players cost a lot of money. They are also the core of

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the team. That is what Tottenham have done exceptionally well this

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year. You have mentioned a few superstar names. Let's look at two

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men who may have a big impact today. Restart with Chelsea's magic little

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Belgium. One is looking rosy at the moment in the garden of Eden.

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Hazard, it's in! You have been a standout player this season. What

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drives you to keep going? Not just me. The whole team, all the players

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have been fantastic. We won a lot of games. At the end of the season, we

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deserved to win this title. We have one FA Cup final to play. So we have

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to be ready for everything. Then we can go on holiday. Antonio Conte has

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taken the Premier League by storm. What do you think has been key to

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his success? When he changed the system after two games. We lost the

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games against Liverpool and Arsenal. Then in training, we work hard every

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day. This has been key to the success. You mentioned that he

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changed after the Arsenal game. You have got them again in the final.

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How will you prepare as a team? We played the second game against

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Arsenal at Stamford Bridge and we won. We played a fantastic game.

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Brilliant! A brilliant goal by Eden Hazard! So we will see. It's a

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final. It's all about details. I hope Chelsea can win the final. You

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have won the double before. How do you deal with the pressures? You

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have already won the league, but there is an extra pressure to win

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the FA Cup. How amazing is the feeling once you do? You always want

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more. For Chelsea, a big club like this, you need to win one, two,

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three trophies a season if you can. We have the possibility to win

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another trophy, so all the players are ready for that. Did you ever

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watch the FA Cup as a child? Did you ever imagine you would play in the

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final? I watched the Premier League, but not the FA Cup, to be fair. I

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started to watch the FA Cup when I came here five years ago. It is such

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a great competition for the fans also. Chelsea won a lot in this

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competition, but since five years, we have missed that. So I hope for

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me it will be the first one this season, and I hope we will be better

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than the last five years. Terrific season to Eden Hazard. If

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you're just joining us, it's Football Focus. We are live from

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Wembley in the build-up to the FA Cup final. We are in the Chelsea

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dugout with Martin Keown and Ruud Gullit. This is where Eden Hazard

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was that for the semifinal. He came on and made a big difference.

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Martin, we have seen throughout this season, particularly in the game

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against Arsenal, when he runs at differences, he is terrifying.

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Frightening. And his dribbling ability is up there with the very

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top players. You are looking at Bale, Messi, Neymar, they won

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brilliantly with the ball. This fellow decides when he goes past his

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opponent. He is that good. He is on a halfway line here and there are

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top players around him. They can't get near him. This is Koscielny, one

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of the best defenders in the Premier League. It goes past him. He

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embarrasses him. There is a cutting edge to his game this season that

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disappeared last year. When he is in the mood and you keep him right and

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satisfy his needs, he is up there with the best. Do you like? I like

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him very much. He is a decisive player. He plays so cleverly between

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the lines. He doesn't stay as a left-winger. Chelsea are hopeful to

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keep him, but I think Real Madrid want him. It could be a swap, maybe,

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with another great player like Bale. That is what the rumours are, but I

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hope he stays at Chelsea because he has been vital. Their system helps

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him. The Blitz is created by the wingbacks and then he can come into

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those pockets. -- the witness is created by the wingbacks. We have

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looked at the Arsenal side and talked about the possibilities and

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the choices that Arsene Wenger makes. This is Chelsea, Ruud. It

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picks itself. They have had not as many games as the others. Next year

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will be a different season for them, with much more games to play. The

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Champions League will be very important for them. But with

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Fabregas, when you hear him saying this is the biggest contribution he

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has made a winning, he has hardly played. That tells you about the

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manager and how he has made him feel a part of it. That will be a big

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call next year. It is the fewest games since 2000. So it has been a

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joy for them. A lot of work has been done on the training pitch. If you

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win, you can do anything as a coach. The moment you start to lose, all of

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a sudden the guys who don't play are getting a bit grumpy. Something is

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going on at the back. We have to see next year if Chelsea can keep doing

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the same that they did. Nice leg cut Martin Keown the! -- nice leg touch

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on Martin Keown. Let's look at the side who have qualified for the

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Premier League. Manchester United now go straight into the group

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stages of the Champions League after winning the Europa League. Could you

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call it a gamble that paid off, winning the Europa League? I don't

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think it's a gamble. Week in, week out, you look at what happens. All

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of a sudden, you draw a lot of games. The league title is out of

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your reach and you are still in the Uefa league. That is not a gamble.

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Then you think to yourself, a prize is a prize. Congratulations to

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Manchester United. Last year, they won the FA Cup and lost their

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manager. But now they are going forward again. He calls it three

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trophies because he includes the Community Shield. This was last

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year. Where would be a good move for Wayne Rooney? I would like to see

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him challenged again. I do feel there is a lot still under the

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bonnet. I would love to see him back Everton, with a point to prove.

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Seita Mourinho, you have made the wrong call. He's 31. They're still

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must be some football in him. I am not having this business of saying

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the club has run out, he started young. We all started young. It is

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about desire and passion. He has been dignified in the way they let

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him go, but he has to come back. He's too young. What I like about

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this situation and Rooney is that Mourinho is in power. He decides

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what is happening, not the players. That is what Ferguson did also. He

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got rid of Jaap Stam. He regretted it, but he got rid of him. He also

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got rid of Beckham when he thought it was right. That is a sign of a

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great manager. Martin, you need to smile a bit more. He is already in

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the mood of playing. Let's play now! Well, hold on because we have plenty

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more still to come before one on Football Focus. Enclosing Mesut Ozil

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on why the cup mean so much and Antonio Conte on securing a bit of

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the probable for the Blues. -- secured a bit of double bubble. It

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is not just Chelsea go into too domestic trophies. Celtic are hoping

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to add to the title they have already won. They take on Aberdeen

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at Hampden this weekend and Brendan Rodgers' team are one match away

:27:22.:27:25.

from having a completely unbeaten season. It comes 50 years after a

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Celtic side made up of 11 players born within 30 miles of the stadium

:27:30.:27:35.

became the first British winners of the European Cup.

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Celtic have scored! The European Cup is on its way to

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Glasgow. I am a Lisbon Lions. I am a Lisbon

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Lion. Proud to be with the Lisbon Lions. I covered the 1967 cup final.

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Jock steamboat talent and loads of personality to the job of managing a

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football team that have never been surpassed. We trained the day before

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and all of a sudden, they picked up the pace. The team were standing in

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the enclosure and the boss must have seen it. The pace, the determination

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and the fun, that was the most important thing. We did it with

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passion. He said, these people! That was Inter Milan, of course. He said,

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these people are defensive and that is their business, but that's not

:29:09.:29:12.

our way. He said, we are going to win this in a manner that will make

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every neutral happy that we have won it. We left the dress room --

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dressing room and the Italians undoubtedly looked better than us.

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But he started. He started singing in the tunnel.

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# And if you know the history, it's enough to make your heart go...

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# Can I relax now? # And the Glasgow Celtic will be

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there. When you walk up those stairs, there was just a mass of

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people. COMMENTATOR: Here comes the two

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teams. Away we go for the 12th European Cup Final. That nutter of

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the referee blew the whistle and we were under way. A good ball and a

:30:16.:30:23.

penalty. It was a left footed outside right going down, the

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chances are he would come inside. I run across his path. I didn't think

:30:30.:30:34.

many referees would give a penalty. But this one did. It is 1-0 to

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Inter. When they get into the lead, they're a tough team to beat. You

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feel this is a job of work. Their aim was to get a goal and sit back.

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We believed in the boss and ourselves. A brilliant move by Auld.

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Half-time the manager told us to play the way we are playing and just

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push it a bit more. Off we go with Celtic to kick off. Through the run,

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they were the easiest opposition we played. Inter after a very short

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time were playing to hang on. Gemmell it is a goal. Celtic

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performed in way that you felt had to win the match. In comes Craig.

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Gemmell has scored a great goal. He has done it. 17 minutes of the

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second half gone. We scored the goal, they came to the halfway line

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and you thought, they're gone. Gemmell, Murdoch, it is there,

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Celtic have scored! I think Chalmers put it in, but it doesn't matter.

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Only five minutes to go. The European Cup is on its way to

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Glasgow. They had taken a wrecking ball to the theories about the per

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centages of defensive football. The whistle goes. I ran and he jumped

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into my arms and we fell into centre circle. A friend is there and he

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jumped each other's arms. Here was the conquering of Europe by a bunch

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of players drawn from a wee corner of a wee nation. There is the great

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scene, Billy McNeil takes the European Cup. That is the best one I

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have seen of any captain receiving a cup. He liked to be called Caesar

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and it looked as if Caesar ruled. What a story. Love the singing in

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the tunnel before the game. There is more on that on BBC1 Scotland this

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afternoon with the Scottish Cup Final. And we have moved again. In

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our trips to Wembley, I don't think we have been in the press box. We

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have shown you the Royal Box and you can probably see John Murray and

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Mark Chapman. Give us a wave. Here is the press box where there will be

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300 members of media and 20 TV stations broadcasting the FA Cup

:33:25.:33:29.

final around the world. Alex Scott will be doing BBC social media. All

:33:30.:33:34.

the behind the scenes is stuff. And Pat Nevin is part of five live team.

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Looking at that Celtic side, this is part of your footballing education.

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More than education. My footballing life. Simpson, Craig, Gemmell, Auld,

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Lennox. Phenomenal team. Everyone brilliant. And I was able to watch

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them in their later years and the Celtic team that came after was

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fabulous. Do you think Aberdeen could spoil the party? They could,

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but it is an outside chance. Celtic a good distance ahead and it shows

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30 points ahead. It has been hard for Aberdeen, but Aberdeen are a

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good side and Derek McInnes is a manager who has learned a lot

:34:26.:34:29.

playing against Brendan Rodgers. But Brendan Rodgers is top standard.

:34:30.:34:34.

There is a chance, but a slim one. Talking of invincible sides, you

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watched a lot of Arsenal team in 2002, it is a stunning achievement.

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It is go to go a whole season unbeaten and every game people are,

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OK we need to win this one and keep that score, that line going. I

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remember being at highborough -- highborough and watching Henry and

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Pires taking it all in, because it is special. What do you think today?

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Do you think you will be smiling at the end? A one off game, anything

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can happen in finals. I remember being here playing Chelsea ladies

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and they were favourites, but we won. Will it be Chelsea? I think

:35:15.:35:20.

Chelsea are favourites, but certainly Arsenal are not lambs to

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the slaughter as people have been suggesting. That is not the case.

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Arsenal have to play at their very best and hope Chelsea have a slight

:35:29.:35:35.

off day and probably the most important man here Antonio Conte had

:35:36.:35:39.

to have a bad tactical day, I haven't seen him have one yet. Good

:35:40.:35:47.

point. More from Pat this afternoon. And Alex will be every where. Now

:35:48.:35:54.

one of Arsenal's top boys, Ozil and the club are keen to hold on to

:35:55.:36:02.

German World Cup winner. Will he take control of the game today?

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Ozil over the top looking for Walcott. And scores.

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That is a yes rather than a yes. We are in the belly of Wembley Stadium.

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They have some other Arsenal players there. Arsenal requested the east

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dressing room at Wembley and they have had success there. Chelsea

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wanted the west end, because when they have been at Wembley, they have

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won all the finals in 2007, 2009 and 2010 and 2012, so both clubs happy

:39:19.:39:27.

with the dressing rooms. Hooker Here are Ruud and Martin. You have been

:39:28.:39:32.

outspoken about Ozil, he didn't seem to be around when they needed him

:39:33.:39:36.

most. What has he not been doing? He took a lot of criticism personally,

:39:37.:39:41.

a lot of people coming for him and he wasn't available for selection,

:39:42.:39:45.

whether illness, injury, he showed up lately. Arsenal winning eight

:39:46.:39:50.

games of the last nine. But today, it is out of possession that I have

:39:51.:39:54.

a problem. He needs to work harder. Even the great players have to do

:39:55.:39:59.

that. The Bergkamps and the Henrys work hard to get back into position.

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You do that for the team. And occasionally when he has thrown his

:40:03.:40:06.

arms in the air, players are trying to get the ball to him. Might be it

:40:07.:40:10.

should have been policed better by the players and maybe they're too

:40:11.:40:17.

nice. But they're back on track. But Ozil has to work to earn my respect.

:40:18.:40:22.

Needs to earn respect. You lead by example. If you are one of best

:40:23.:40:28.

players and you have won a World Cup, you have to do that. If you do,

:40:29.:40:34.

the other players will repay that with work and give you the ball.

:40:35.:40:39.

That is your position in the team. The other key man will be Sanchez,

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he has a great record at Wembley, in five games for country and club he

:40:46.:40:51.

has scored six. Including this beauty. I think he is tailor made

:40:52.:40:57.

for this type of pitch. It has that great athleticism and he is an

:40:58.:41:03.

opportunist and he is a defender's nightmare. You can't give him a

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moment's space. He is a match winner. I love him. His work rate is

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high. That is why people love him also. That is why the players love

:41:13.:41:17.

him. Therefore great player, I think that was the right buy for Arsenal.

:41:18.:41:21.

They can hurt Chelsea. They can but they need to test the back three and

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they have two midfield players in Matic and Kante, Kante is almost two

:41:28.:41:30.

players in one. They're playing with 12 players. And they offer

:41:31.:41:36.

themselves brilliantly. But their manager has stitched in the

:41:37.:41:38.

information to the players. They know their roles and Arsene Wenger's

:41:39.:41:43.

copied that system, what a great compliment that is. We have two

:41:44.:41:47.

teams with a back three. I can't remember that happening. It is a

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bank holiday weekend final of finals, a League Two play off and a

:41:52.:41:59.

Championship play-off that seas Reading playing on Huddersfield.

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David Wagner has been talking to Mark Clemmit.

:42:07.:42:14.

Wise words from Huddersfield native and former Prime Minister, Harold

:42:15.:42:21.

Wilson. I think football has changed a bit since then when the club were

:42:22.:42:30.

last in the top flight. A goal. 45 years on from the days of Frank

:42:31.:42:36.

Worthington the three times former champions of England and one of the

:42:37.:42:40.

favourites for relegation are preparing for arguably the biggest

:42:41.:42:46.

game in their history. What I want to know is what sort of things are

:42:47.:42:50.

going through your head right now with such an enor nous game looming?

:42:51.:43:00.

Maybe it sounds boring, but it is exactly the same as what I had in my

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head before the league match. I have Reading what we can do, what they're

:43:07.:43:09.

doing, who is available and who will be fit, what we will do in training.

:43:10.:43:18.

Have you taken your squad and said, forget the occasion, this is just a

:43:19.:43:23.

game? From my point of view they can take that atmosphere, the occasion

:43:24.:43:27.

if this gives them a lift. I'm not worried about that they will be

:43:28.:43:31.

nervous, because what they have done in the semi-finals, this makes me

:43:32.:43:36.

totally relaxed they're able to focus in different circumstances. Up

:43:37.:43:42.

it comes and it is saved by Ward and the dream goes on for Huddersfield

:43:43.:43:50.

Town. Maybe with Rio is the Wembley Stadium in London one of the best

:43:51.:43:55.

football places where you can be involved and we are involved in a

:43:56.:43:59.

proper competition match in the final to come to the Premier League.

:44:00.:44:04.

We know that this city will be bouncing if we are successful for

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sure. You're going to Wembley. Yes. I'm worried about the rest of guys.

:44:14.:44:18.

There will be nobody here. They can a day off. I hope we win and we will

:44:19.:44:27.

be hitting the big boys. It has been an incredible season and I'm stood

:44:28.:44:31.

here with yourself thoroughly proud of what we have achieved so far and

:44:32.:44:36.

if there is any club who deserves the opportunity to be there at

:44:37.:44:41.

Wembley to contest the play-off it is our club. I have a problem I

:44:42.:44:47.

asked Andy your coach, what it is that you do, your attention to

:44:48.:44:51.

detail. He said, your attention to detail is so great you are not

:44:52.:44:56.

allowing any of your staff to tell anybody what your attention to

:44:57.:45:03.

detail is! He is well trained. Or they didn't understand!

:45:04.:45:10.

Do you allow yourself to dream that you could be walking up those steps

:45:11.:45:15.

with the greatest prize in your clutches? At the minute, my head is

:45:16.:45:24.

only around how we can beat them. Then I can think about the Premier

:45:25.:45:27.

League. It makes no sense to think about it before because we are not

:45:28.:45:31.

die, but we will try everything to be there, for sure. It is very hard

:45:32.:45:36.

to control Ruud Gullit. He is wandering around, having a look at

:45:37.:45:42.

everything. Where are you going? I want to talk to you both about

:45:43.:45:47.

Huddersfield and Reading. Martin, Huddersfield have a really

:45:48.:45:50.

impressive story. The David Wagner has done things, that rotation of

:45:51.:45:53.

the squad, and to get them to one game of the Premier League is

:45:54.:45:58.

remarkable. It certainly is. And the pressure on that game, it is the

:45:59.:46:01.

biggest game in football and they will be here to see how the players

:46:02.:46:06.

cope with that. They want to join the big time, Huddersfield. It has

:46:07.:46:09.

been a long time coming. But they have got to get past Reading, and

:46:10.:46:16.

Jaap Stam has done just as good a job. From one Dutchman to another. I

:46:17.:46:20.

am very proud of him, because he had to the Dutch course as well. I got

:46:21.:46:30.

the diploma. And he is doing well at the moment. He makes them play in

:46:31.:46:35.

his style and he has success with it. I am very proud of him. A lot of

:46:36.:46:45.

old players who did that course which was tailor-made for them have

:46:46.:46:50.

done extremely well. So competence to the Dutch federation. Jaap Stam

:46:51.:46:54.

didn't make it onto the candidates for Manager of the Year. He should

:46:55.:46:57.

have been on there. You can feel the heat now. We have one Arsenal legend

:46:58.:47:03.

with us. We will bring in another one. This is a man who won the FA

:47:04.:47:08.

Cup final twice for Arsenal, the one and only Jebet silver. Lovely to see

:47:09.:47:16.

you. -- Ubeto server. How are you? You won the FA Cup alongside this

:47:17.:47:23.

man in 2003 with Arsenal. What do you remember about that game,

:47:24.:47:28.

Gilberto Silva? It was a great day when you play your final game for

:47:29.:47:36.

your club. It was a great day for us even though it was not an easy game.

:47:37.:47:44.

But the end, we got it. It was great after the game. You came in as a

:47:45.:47:52.

World Cup winner, and so humble. Straightaway, you could see he was a

:47:53.:47:55.

winner. It was his chance to play in a cup final, and you had great years

:47:56.:47:59.

at the club, playing alongside Patrick Vieira, a truly great

:48:00.:48:06.

player. I can say that was the greatest year in football in my

:48:07.:48:10.

life. I played for Arsenal for six years. It is not so easy as a

:48:11.:48:14.

Brazilian to come here and succeed in the best football in the world

:48:15.:48:18.

for a great club like Arsenal. I was fortunate enough to play alongside

:48:19.:48:31.

Martin Keown. He is my good friend! Are you going to stick around? I

:48:32.:48:40.

want to know something. What was the big difference from the football you

:48:41.:48:44.

play before and when you came to England? Of course, the language

:48:45.:48:49.

first. And then? I think the pace of the game, my first five games here,

:48:50.:48:54.

I got smashed on the field. I could not cope with the speed of the game.

:48:55.:49:01.

In Brazil, you get the ball and sometimes you have space. I was

:49:02.:49:14.

always shouting. In Brazil, it is very hot. You don't have the same

:49:15.:49:23.

tempo on the field. I have space. Basically, I was just playing on the

:49:24.:49:27.

side until Arsene came to me and said, come on, I want you to get the

:49:28.:49:31.

ball and go straight forward. OK, fine. But the first five games were

:49:32.:49:38.

hard. Go over there, you lot, and continue your conversation. All

:49:39.:49:44.

right, I will go away! I am being pushed around by Ruud Gullit! I am

:49:45.:49:48.

not being rude, we need to hear from the Chelsea manager Antonio Conte.

:49:49.:49:52.

He's going for double bubble this season. He has been talking to Gabby

:49:53.:50:05.

Logan. Sorry, fellas! 13 consecutive wins... Chelsea are

:50:06.:50:17.

into the final... Chelsea win it again. All higher Antonio Conte. --

:50:18.:50:26.

all hail Antonio Conte. Antonio, congratulations on winning the

:50:27.:50:29.

Premier League in your first season here. It is an incredible

:50:30.:50:32.

achievement, record number of wins and now an FA Cup final. Have you

:50:33.:50:37.

had a chance to celebrate yet. Yeah. For us, it was important to

:50:38.:50:41.

celebrate winning the league, because it was a great achievement.

:50:42.:50:44.

But at the same time, it's important to find the right concentration

:50:45.:50:51.

because for us, it's important to reach this important target. My

:50:52.:50:58.

players are ready. They are working very well. I am seeing the right

:50:59.:51:05.

concentration. They can fight and play this game against Arsenal. You

:51:06.:51:09.

come in against a manager who knows this competition very well. He is a

:51:10.:51:13.

joint record holder of six FA Cup wins, Arsene Wenger. Does that put

:51:14.:51:21.

you slightly on the back foot? Force, it is important to have the

:51:22.:51:27.

same anger. For sure, Arsenal have had the opportunity to win this

:51:28.:51:35.

important trophy in a season when they missed qualifications of the

:51:36.:51:38.

Champions League. And for this reason, we have to pay great

:51:39.:51:44.

attention because they will arrive with anger and concentration. Are

:51:45.:51:48.

you making yourself be underdogs, then? You can't be, surely. We won

:51:49.:51:57.

the season, were we started the season as underdogs. Don't forget in

:51:58.:52:00.

the first game against Arsenal, we lost 3-0. For sure, we are a strong

:52:01.:52:11.

team. But Arsenal is the same. They have the possibility to save the

:52:12.:52:14.

season with a great win in the FA Cup. For me, it would be great in my

:52:15.:52:25.

first season. Carlo Ancelotti did that in his first season in 2009,

:52:26.:52:29.

but it didn't go so well the following season. Honestly, I prefer

:52:30.:52:40.

to take the risk to win the FA Cup and then have this type of risk.

:52:41.:52:44.

What was your knowledge of the FA Cup growing up? Did you know about

:52:45.:52:49.

it when you were a boy in Italy? Did you ever see matches? Only on TV. I

:52:50.:52:58.

watched a lot of games. These days, I watch the previous games when

:52:59.:53:12.

Chelsea won the FA Cup. They won against Middlesbrough. So it was the

:53:13.:53:26.

Italian angle you were looking at. I think this league is an interesting

:53:27.:53:35.

league, maybe the best in the world. This will be John Terry's final

:53:36.:53:41.

final. How important has he been somebody you can go to? He is so

:53:42.:53:46.

entrenched here in Chelsea. John is a legend for Chelsea, for sure. It

:53:47.:53:55.

won't be easy for him to think there is only one game to go now. He is a

:53:56.:54:00.

great man. I was very lucky to be Chelsea's manager and who have the

:54:01.:54:03.

opportunity to work with him and to know him very well. This season, he

:54:04.:54:09.

has helped me a lot, on and off the pitch. For this reason, I tell him

:54:10.:54:18.

always big thanks. It is a dream to see him lift the FA Cup. One final

:54:19.:54:24.

word on Arsene Wenger. He has been at Arsenal for 20 years. Can you

:54:25.:54:27.

imagine being at a Premier League club for that long, with all the

:54:28.:54:31.

pressures and all the challenges that are thrown at you? I think it's

:54:32.:54:41.

wonderful to stay for so long time in one team. Arsene Wenger did a

:54:42.:54:54.

fantastic job for Arsenal. But I started this season and I hope to

:54:55.:54:57.

stay for many years in this country, because the atmosphere that you find

:54:58.:55:03.

here is incredible. I am ready for this challenge. It won't be easy,

:55:04.:55:11.

but I am ready. He has had a great season, Antonio

:55:12.:55:15.

Conte. There are lots of stories in the papers that he is going to sign

:55:16.:55:20.

a deal to keep him at Chelsea until 2021, nine 5p. Only? You think he is

:55:21.:55:31.

worth more? -- ?9 million. Why not? There were talks in Italy that Inter

:55:32.:55:37.

wanted him. I think his wife and kids also coming to London. London

:55:38.:55:42.

is a great place to live. I think he also sees the future in Chelsea full

:55:43.:55:48.

stops are hopefully, he would do the same in the Champions League. How

:55:49.:55:52.

much of their success this season has been done to him? It was a

:55:53.:55:55.

strong dressing room he came into. He started to boss the team and he

:55:56.:56:00.

has been magnificent. Why wouldn't he want to stay? The challenge is

:56:01.:56:04.

here. All the top managers are now here in this Premier League.

:56:05.:56:07.

Guardiola is already buying players. He will have one eye on that as

:56:08.:56:13.

well. He is a serial winner of trophies Dan. We know you two know

:56:14.:56:17.

what you're talking about. We have a few hours before kick-off. Who is

:56:18.:56:24.

going to win? Chelsea, 2-1. Come on, Arsene! Perfect BBC balance. You

:56:25.:56:35.

think Chelsea might make it, Martin? Not sneaking. How can Arsenal do it?

:56:36.:56:43.

If it doesn't happen, I would also be happy for Arsenal, because I like

:56:44.:56:51.

them. Did and Wigan beat Man City and do the impossible? Fellas,

:56:52.:56:55.

though somebody behind us so we have to say goodbye to this camera. Give

:56:56.:57:01.

us a cheesy smile. Thank you for watching. Build up to all the FA Cup

:57:02.:57:06.

final from 4.15. We have programmes across the afternoon for you as

:57:07.:57:09.

well. And here is a taste for you. The 1990 FA Cup final teams, how

:57:10.:57:14.

many can you get? We have rightly taking on Ellis James the BBC

:57:15.:57:17.

Three's job programme. See you later. We leave you with a slightly

:57:18.:57:20.

less controversial Walkers Wave. Goodbye. 1990, Crystal Palace three,

:57:21.:57:34.

Chelsea three. Jim Leighton. John Pemberton. Mike Phelan. Mike Phelan?

:57:35.:57:47.

Gary O'Reilly. Lee Martin? Andy Thorn. You're just naming your

:57:48.:57:55.

mates. Andy Gray. Richard Shaw. Danny Wallace. Mark Wright. Mark

:57:56.:58:05.

Hughes. Neil Webb. Paul Ince. Correct. Bryan Robson. Let me see...

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Phil Barber. Correct. Was Phil Barber? Whispering Phil Barber.

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Legend for Palace. Who was he? Steve Bruce. Gary Pallister. Thanks, Gary.

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You made me. Alan Pardew. Geoff Thomas. Correct. Come on. This is

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the face of someone who has got a name ready. Can you take this long?

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Neil Webb. You can't do that! There is one Man United player left. I

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think I know the guy. Have I said Bryan Robson? Yes. That should be

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it. Um... Brian McClair. Oh, you did it! Unbelievable.

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# I'll come get my things but I can't let go

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