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Three wins, 23 goals. Just another Tonight, going off the rails. Why | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
are the trappings of success brings problems for some modern | :00:29. | :00:35. | |
footballers and their clubs. Girls chasing people with money in their | :00:35. | :00:43. | |
pocket. It is dangerous. Access all areas at stadium MK as we go behind | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
scenes with the medics. It is the hub of any football club. That is | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
where you tend to hang out. And the pick of the action and | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
reaction from the weekend without a single defeat in sight. | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
Hello, good evening. Smiles all round this week and here to | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
celebrate his Colchester past and present. Perry Groves, very much | :01:11. | :01:19. | |
past it! And the present manager, John Ward. There is a fascinating | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
battle developing in the race for promotion to the Championship. | :01:23. | :01:28. | |
Colchester have just one spot of Stevenage now and the MK Dons | :01:28. | :01:38. | |
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aiming for the top two. It is Saturday afternoon just | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
before kick-off. This is the changing room before the game | :01:43. | :01:53. | |
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against Exeter. One place that they do not miss, is that Visio room. -- | :01:57. | :02:07. | |
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physiotherapy room. Hello, Simon. You're doing a treatment here, this | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
appears to be the only injury. George has got a little problem | :02:12. | :02:22. | |
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with his ankle. We are using this machine to stimulate the muscles. | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
How many staff do you have? Myself and Adam. And then a couple of | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
physiotherapists and some part-time staff, a chiropractor, a doctor who | :02:36. | :02:45. | |
coming on a part-time basis. We're always attending courses, | :02:45. | :02:54. | |
approving -- improving all the time. It does seem to help the practice. | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
This machine might just give us 1% but if it does that, it is better | :02:59. | :03:06. | |
than nothing. Whilst Simon gets on with his job, we have an unusual | :03:06. | :03:14. | |
problem. Apparently the kit is similar to Exeter. Yes their kit is | :03:14. | :03:22. | |
red and white and we have a red stripe. So we're going to wear the | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
third choice kit today which is black. So why does the home team | :03:27. | :03:36. | |
have to change? The reason is that we do not have any shirts without | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
names on. So instead of confusing everyone in the stadium and the | :03:40. | :03:48. | |
referee, unfortunately we have had to change. It is just a minor | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
hiccup. And if you win today it could | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
become the lucky Kit! A few years ago we kept winning the way from | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
home so the red shirt became the favourite. So Black could do us a | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
favour today. Well as you can hear it is noisy in | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
here. And the kit has become black. Depending on what happens with | :04:15. | :04:25. | |
injuries during the game, what is your routine like during the game? | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
Well we are going to focus on the lads, getting their legs prepared, | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
the soft tissues. Then when Miguel out for warm-up we have a meeting | :04:36. | :04:43. | |
with the paramedics. Then I take my place on the bench and if anything | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
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happens I will be there for that another deflection. It is into the | :05:25. | :05:35. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 40 seconds | :05:35. | :06:16. | |
another deflection. It is into the That was a great result for | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
everyone today. No injuries today. Only the linesman. He has just | :06:21. | :06:27. | |
before the kick-off he came to see me and asked me to check out his | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
hamstrings. And he had some damage their so we had to get as | :06:31. | :06:38. | |
substitute. But we had no injuries and we got the three points. It is | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
the hub of any football club, the treatment room. It is where people | :06:44. | :06:52. | |
tend to hang out as well. And Simon takes it on the chin. He gets a lot | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
of stick thrown at him. But he can throw it back as well. He is | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
talented at his job and the club are fortunate to have someone like | :07:02. | :07:10. | |
him. We will have to work hard to get hold of him. We are lucky to | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
have him at the club. How important is that back room | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
staff? Very important. In that instance we're looking at injuries | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
and getting people back quickly. We have a fast run of games now coming | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
up. The fitness guys are important for those warm ups and getting | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
prepared for the next game. So you need that support and you need | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
people onside all the time. And the kit, have you ever come across that | :07:41. | :07:51. | |
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before? 12 ricket mount will get the mother of all rollicking! I | :07:54. | :08:04. | |
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think it is disruptive for the MK Dons. But it did not do them much | :08:04. | :08:09. | |
good. And that was important for them because they got beaten in | :08:09. | :08:19. | |
midweek. I think they are the ones that could sneak in. They are good | :08:19. | :08:24. | |
enough. Could they make the top two? A I think they could find that | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
difficult but they will make the top six. Stevenage is also pushing | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
for that place. They came from two goals behind. They are just getting | :08:33. | :08:43. | |
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a little bit sloppy. They go two down. Chesterfield battling for | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
their lives at the bottom. They have not won since they played | :08:48. | :08:55. | |
Spurs. I saw them play at Spurs. They were terrific. But that takes | :08:55. | :09:05. | |
a lot out a few mentally as well as physically. It is not that easy, as | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
you well know. you well know. | :09:10. | :09:20. | |
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There is a lot of team spirit. I think that was the equaliser. | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
They have shown a lot of spirit but they have not won for seven games. | :09:25. | :09:32. | |
And Gary Smith, the manager, do you know much about him? I do not but | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
he has the reputation of being a good young manager coming through. | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
I think he will do pretty well. you got the performance of the week | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
against Cheltenham last week. It was tough going have to Wycombe | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
and getting another performance as strong as that out of them was | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
probably more of the surprise of the weak! But we got that and we | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
have to try to live up to it. We came away with the point on | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
Saturday and that is not back away from home. Ahead of the game, what | :10:03. | :10:10. | |
were you thinking? I was just having a look around. I like the | :10:10. | :10:20. | |
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place. I'm not comfortable in a suit and tie. | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
So the game itself. Defensively, very good at the moment, you must | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
be pleased? We have been strong defensively and that is pleasing. | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
But every now and again it just kind of takes away from the front | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
end of the pitch. It never quite looked like we were going to get | :10:47. | :10:53. | |
the winner in this match. So good things and things that we needed to | :10:53. | :11:01. | |
improve on. Perry has been terrific. We brought | :11:01. | :11:09. | |
him back for two big games. He has settled in really well now. And he | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
looks like a good partnership with Magners. And Ben Williams in goal? | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
He is really coming into form. His handling and decision-making is | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
really good at the moment. We have to keep working to make sure it | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
stays that way. Joey Dunlop was missing at the weekend, is he a | :11:30. | :11:36. | |
Kate? He has been ill with a virus that has kept him out. But I spoke | :11:37. | :11:44. | |
to him today and he is hopeful that he will be with us tomorrow night. | :11:44. | :11:49. | |
A useful point at the weekend? needed it because we need the back- | :11:49. | :11:57. | |
up. So it was a good result and a good week. Let's take a look at the | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
league table and see what that does for you. | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
The play-offs? It was just after the past two games that people | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
started to mention the play-offs. Everything is possible but we have | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
a massive quartet of games coming up and we have to get the results. | :12:16. | :12:26. | |
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questions with a bit more confident after the next four games, but we | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
will try. We asked the viewers to get in touch and ask the questions | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
and they all ask the same thing, here it isKolo yes, it is still | :12:40. | :12:50. | |
games and expect Notts County to get beaten a couple of times, so | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
everything is difficult but we have been in this position all season, | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
mid-table, but to push on would be fantastic. Starting with Sheffield | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
United tomorrow, here is confirmation of that fixture. | :13:03. | :13:13. | |
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Stevenage also at home. Good luck with that one. Still to come this | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
eveningKolo falling into temptation, how success brings problems for | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
some of our players. And two more for the Cobblers | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
hitman as Northampton about at the drop zone. But first, the | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
Championship and we start with Peterborough. A fantastic win. | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
needed a win, they hadn't won for three games and this game had goals | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
written all over it with the way Blackpool player. A great leap by | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
Tyrone Barnett. This lad failed a fitness test before the game but | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
told the physio he wanted to play. That is good character, and they | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
hit Blackpool on the break. Unbelievable defending. A but | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
Tyrone Barnett does really well, he waits for Baptiste to commit | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
himself and set it up. Ian Holloway said there was no team that had 23 | :14:04. | :14:10. | |
shot against them like Peterborough did this weekend. Darren Ferguson | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
described it as the best performance of the season from them. | :14:13. | :14:20. | |
And they had beaten Ipswich 7-1 earlier this year, so it must have | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
been some performance. Blackpool are a nice team to play against | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
because you know Ian Holloway will play three up front and | :14:26. | :14:35. | |
Peterborough took advantage of it. George Boyd, a decent finish past | :14:35. | :14:41. | |
match jocks. -- Matt Gilks. They will be delighted to get George | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
Boyd back on the scoresheet, a good player. A quality player and he has | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
been doing really well for them. Peterborough Dubai Open football | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
and will go forward and get goals - - to play. They will concede but on | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
their day, they are a very good side. Staying in the vision was | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
what it was all about for them. -- Division. Yes, they will stay there | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
but they will get stronger for next year. A good team. They played | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
Ipswich at the weekend -- and Ipswich at the weekend, coming down | :15:13. | :15:23. | |
from Numa -- two goals down. And a on this one, I would like to see | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
Cresswell get a little bit closer. Takes a deflection off Tommy Smith, | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
but a bit unfortunate. They got a draw away at Southampton and this | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
game, they would have taken a point. They have been up and down but when | :15:39. | :15:43. | |
they are up, they are a very good side. These boys are playing for | :15:43. | :15:49. | |
their futures. Collor said what has been offered one, apparently. -- | :15:49. | :15:59. | |
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Carlos Edwards. That is what you want indie Boxx!, don't think Nick | :16:00. | :16:10. | |
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Barmby was far too happy with that better skill, comes to Jason | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
Scotland, and he just rolls it into the path of Grant Leadbitter, | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
offering him to shoot. Not a bad strike from Grant Leadbitter, | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
another playing for his future because he is out of contract then | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
the summer. Parlour Kippen eye on all of these lads! He just need a | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
few quid. The -- I will just. do you see the Peterborough at home | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
game going? There will be some goals, Ipswich have had some big | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
draws up now, and Peterborough got their first win in four, so a | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
betting man would have both teams to score. Let's have a look at the | :16:49. | :16:57. | |
bottom of the table, looking a lot more comfortable for both our teams. | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
Fingers crossed, but certainly you would think they would stay up | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
there. They will be in good shape, because they have to lose four or | :17:05. | :17:07. | |
five games and other teams have to win that bandied terms of the | :17:07. | :17:14. | |
context of the season, they won't do that at the bottom. They any | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
chance of Ipswich getting the players? I am not getting into | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
that! -- any chance of Ipswich getting into the play-offs. | :17:22. | :17:29. | |
The majority are letting their the minority. Southend have vanished | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
their players for improper conduct, most of it related to late night | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
and bad behaviour. But just how bad is the problem? | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
The distractions for a modern-day footballer are as obvious as they | :17:39. | :17:49. | |
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are dangerous. In a big house, big car, pretty girls chase in them. | :17:49. | :17:56. | |
Money in their pocket. It is a dangerous concoction. A good night | :17:56. | :18:06. | |
out can prove costly in more ways than one. It is one of those | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
situations that you don't know what it you have got until it's gone. | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
You have got to be very careful about what you do. Once again, | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
footballers have been punished for their off-field indiscretions, from | :18:18. | :18:24. | |
Michael Chopra and Jimmy Bullard at Ipswich to others at Southend. | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
all make mistakes, nobody is perfect, they have made the mistake | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
and they are both apologetic and they can move on, we have dealt | :18:32. | :18:37. | |
with it. Have you felt let them? There were a couple of bites where | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
I was shaking my head. -- a couple of nights. A lot of managers tell | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
me they have the same kind of problems. The chairman and the | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
board, I have to appease, and your best players are causing all sorts | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
of problems and could be very good assets to sell, that is what | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
disappoints me. One player who has been there and come to a battle | :19:01. | :19:09. | |
with alcohol is Clarke Carlisle. Is there chair of the Professional | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
Footballers' Association. Edward Dhoni had taken a few more days of | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
my behaviour and I would have been sacked by QPR who were at League | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
One -- it would only have taken. There is not much of the return | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
from that. So I was blessed come to that point of enlightenment when I | :19:26. | :19:34. | |
did. Yes, so fortunate. It could have been a so different. Do you | :19:34. | :19:41. | |
think there are players in the Football League now in that sort of | :19:41. | :19:48. | |
pride? I know there are. -- plight. I know there are players who were | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
struggling with issues. You can spot the lads who were susceptible | :19:52. | :19:58. | |
the then, maybe going out more than they should or are not... Or you | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
can do is give advice. I can't make any other person do some ING. | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
antics of today's footballing generation of probably no different | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
to that of yesteryear. Former players like tommyrot and know how | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
lucky they were. -- Tommy Robson. But 16 men in a hotel overnight | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
together and they are absolute children. Doesn't matter whether it | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
was my day or today, when you get to the bottom Leeks, if they are | :20:28. | :20:32. | |
still on 3,000 or 4,000 pound a week, that is a lot of money to | :20:32. | :20:38. | |
control. And these are your lesser players. I know they have all got | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
agents, which is a good thing. It didn't happen in my day, so the | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
agent, it is his responsibility now that he has take that lad on, one | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
of his things is to control that lap and his money. That is what he | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
should be doing. -- lad. If you are a professional footballer filling | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
the captors hours before and after matches in hotels like these, that | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
can cause a problem. You are bored, you are finished by one or 2 | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
o'clock and there is not a lot to do when you are young and on your | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
own. It is easy when you have your family, but when you are young, | :21:13. | :21:21. | |
there are so many things to get up to that you shouldn't. It could | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
beat anyone. There are an amazing amount of people that want to tell | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
the manager that this one has been here and that one there, and | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
sometimes it isn't true. They are young lads, there are going to be | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
times when they go out and have a drink and they go to clubs. You | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
can't really stop that, as long as it is the right time and in a | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
sensible way. But if you get the respect from the players, they | :21:45. | :21:51. | |
won't want to upset you. headlines may highlight football's | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
bad apples but realistically it is full of players who know where the | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
line is and know when to stop. job we have got and the lifestyle | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
we can have if you're at the top of your game is fantastic and we all | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
want that, so if you knuckle down and keep your head right, but... | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
it easy to knuckle down and not get tempted? Some people it is an some | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
people it isn't. I am fine, it doesn't really bother me. They are | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
role models with more money and time than most but occasionally | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
overstep the mark. But their indiscretions off the pitch | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
compared to the Premier League are few and far between. | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
John, do some of that ring true we do? How difficult visit as a | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
manager? -- with you? Clarke manager? -- with you? Clarke | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
Carlisle was quite emotional about what he said and if you are a | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
footballer listening to his own indiscretions, you have to think, | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
this is pretty serious. But this is such a short career for players. | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
They finish in their early thirties and there is a lot of living to do | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
after that serve it really pays for them to say I am going to make the | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
most of this. Have you seen things changed over the years? As a | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
manager, you have to change with it. Sir Alex Ferguson has been there | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
longer than any others and he has moved with the Times. I guess it | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
drive some crazy sometimes but he has kept on top of it and kept at | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
the top of his own game that drives him. You have to learn with young | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
players but you also have to offer them advice and it is a great | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
career, don't wicket. Perry, you were part of an Arsenal team with | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
Paul Merson and Tony Adams. How difficult was that period? They | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
kept dragging me out. It was terrible! When you are young, if | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
you were think you are indestructible and then suddenly it | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
has passed you by. -- you think. Footballers are going to make | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
mistakes but if you keep making the mistake over and over, then the | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
penny should drop. I was more frightened of my dad, if I let him | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
down. In the modern age of technology, it is that they quickly. | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
Gambling is more than issue because you can do it indoors. As a manager, | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
you get to know so many people who are willing to tell you everything. | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
I know when lads are tweeting late at night and where they are. These | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
guys are in the public view all the time whether they have a shirt on | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
or not, and guys know who they are and what they are doing. | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
Footballers can go out and have a good time but you don't have to go | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
over the top band that is the important factor. Back to the | :24:29. | :24:36. | |
football and Southend. In they came from a goal behind and got a point | :24:36. | :24:46. | |
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together. They go a goal down and then... A we saw the game against | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
Crawley on Monday night, Liam Dickinson went down injured. He has | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
broken his ankle and is out for the season. Yes, he said he was going | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
to be OK as well. That was a game that might have changed things | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
around for the positive, because they scrapped really hard with nine | :25:06. | :25:16. | |
men to get a point. Sometimes those things, you think it is your season | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
and they followed it up with a really good result. One win in the | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
last five but they are further up the table. This is a bad foul on | :25:24. | :25:29. | |
Anthony Grant and it is a sending off when you think you will be | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
cruising. Paul Sturrock will go bananas that the goal they concede. | :25:34. | :25:43. | |
One of your players just switches off and it ends up an own-goal. As | :25:43. | :25:50. | |
a manager, it Paul Shaw Herod would be poor birds do their jobs. -- it | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
pull your hair red when players. You have to be so disciplined and | :25:55. | :25:59. | |
you have to go to the end of the game and they did it in the | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
previous game, but they let themselves slip in this one. Very | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
congested at the stop of League Two. They are still third, it is in | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
their hands. -- Top. They are hitting form at the right time, a | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
couple of draws under when but it will be a big blow losing Liam | :26:15. | :26:21. | |
Dickinson. -- and a winner. Northampton are out of the | :26:21. | :26:29. | |
relegation zone at long last. it is a great long throw and it is | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
so worth its while. When we had that to compete with Wycombe and | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
had to have defended, but it is so good if you have a guy who can do | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
that and have people who can finish it off. Ben Tozer is the guy who is | :26:43. | :26:49. | |
throwing up. Akinfenwa just hold the defender the Rock, so much body | :26:49. | :26:56. | |
strength. -- off. He can be the freezer, he is bigger than the | :26:56. | :27:03. | |
fridge! The that is his 16th of the season. If you have a goalscorer at | :27:03. | :27:11. | |
the bottom, they are the ones who keep you out of trouble. What the | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
make up the Luke Guttridge situation? He left Aldershot and | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
apparently had as a gentleman's agreement with Dean Holdsworth that | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
he wouldn't play, but he did. Aidy Boothroyd said he would find him | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
two weeks' wages if they didn't play. Then he has got to play! | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
There was a similar one with Louis Saha and Everton at the weekend, a | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
gentleman's agreement. I'm not sure there are too many gentle men | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
around the place. If you have to win a game, you put your best team | :27:37. | :27:47. | |
out. They need the points, and now they are in great form. | :27:47. | :27:52. | |
Northampton's first back-to-back wins in over a year. And guess who | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
they play tomorrow night? Dagenham & Redbridge. That is a huge game. | :27:57. | :28:01. | |
They have a couple of games, Northampton, to get out of that. | :28:01. | :28:09. | |
But they have got to get point parole -- points out of them. | :28:09. | :28:14. | |
a massive game. Yes, because you put more distance between you. They | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
never lost at the weekend at Plymouth last as well, so it is | :28:20. | :28:21. | |
massive psychologically -- Dagenham massive psychologically -- Dagenham | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
& Redbridge lost at the weekend. Good luck, John, with the play-offs. | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
Thanks for coming on. Thank you to Perry. That is it for now and for a | :28:31. | :28:34. |