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A new series and the new line`up. Late Kick`Off will chart evdry

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chapter. Tonight, is it time to take a lead

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from Europe? The club cleanhng the campaign for a return to sed it

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standing urges opponents to give it a chance. I think will change their

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idea that it is a bad thing. Introducing the fans panel. Three

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fans from three clubs tell ht straight.

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We have the best of the acthon, including the performance of the

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week from Stevenage. We are on the road with the

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Colchester United fans in the big match against the league le`ders.

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He had better get used to that theists. It is our new chief and

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that, Paul McVeigh. Great to have you here. Kevin Watson, welcome

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What are you looking forward to It is unheard`of that every single team

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in the region has it in a play`off battle or relegation battle. It will

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be fascinating. My thoughts are I am looking forward to getting her

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wording edgeways! We started with one of the big

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issues in the ball, or to stand Peterborough United are at the

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forefront of the campaign to reintroduce standing areas. The

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football league have agreed to lobby the government to introduce

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so`called real seats. London Road, over 100 years old

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home to Peterborough United for 80 years. The stadium is undergoing

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redevelopment. It has taken years to get off the ground. Work on the main

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stand is well under way. We are looking to build an all`seater end.

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The hand that would be an education centre. With Peterborough looking

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for an instant return to Thd Championship, standing is not an

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option. They are leading thd campaign to bring an act, as long as

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it is safe. It was a couple of years ago that I introduced the

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proposition to The Championship where it was booted through. Last

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year, it was substantiated `t the Germans the league meeting. We have

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commissioned the board to go to the Minister of sport and ask what we

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can do about taking forward and introducing trial period. R`il

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seating can be put into grotnds where people can come and h`ve a

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look, try yet, captured, Felix. I think it will change their hdea that

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it is a bad thing. It reallx isn't. Which is mastic `` it is much safer.

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How would it work? You would have your own allocated space with the

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barrier in front and behind. He would also have a retractable seat

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which can be locked or unlocked and there would be no danger of

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overcrowding. So, the seeds give a standing or seated option. The first

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on trial at Bristol city. Installed last month. It can't be used, only

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four run the. Rail seeds ard popular in Europe, especially in sole of

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Germany's biggest grounds. Tp for a league games, Lord for a le`gue

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ties. `` lowered. All`seater stadiums have been compulsory since

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the Hillsborough Disaster 24 years ago. The trouble is away to our

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left. The crash came the lives of 96 Liverpool fans. We feel likd this is

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another battle. Why bring it up at this time when we have not had any

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accountability? If they do bring standing back, we had warnings

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before 1989. They have plenty of warnings and they didn't listen It

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cost 96 lives. It brought all`seater stadiums. We respect what h`ppened

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to the 96 and their families. That will never go away. In the longer

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term, we have learnt that w`s game management, not them standing. We

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don't want to go there again. We are not going back to all standhng

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studio in any shape or form. This will just be there for people who

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wish to stand at matches who are currently standing in seated areas.

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Late Kick`Off seating will be better for them, and people who want to

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stand in the law divisions, rail seating will be safer for them as

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well. Championship grounds lust be all`seater if they have plaxed in

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the league for two seasons. I understand around 70% of thd elite

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clubs voted in favour of safe standing in a recent survey. The

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first English professional club to go all`seater after Hillsborough was

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Ipswich Town. At Portman Ro`d, some supporters refuse to sit. It is

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against the regulations, but we only have one area which persistdntly

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stand. Do you have to turn ` blind eye? I wouldn't say that. Wd have to

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manage it. We have to keep the exit and stairways clear. We do warn

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people, but how do you make a couple of thousand people set down? Clubs

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are encouraged to do their best to get fans to sit down before the

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authorities take more robust actions. For existing grounds,

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rather than new buildings, rail seeds are at Spencer. You c`n see

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the seats. They are ?20 a sdat. If you are going to take those sites,

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it is ?100 to put in an attdmpt to seat. The weight of the rail seed is

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considerably more than the plastic seat. Grounds may have to do

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structural alterations. It hs not a simple thing. The practicalhties are

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quite prohibitive. Yes, I think they are. If you think about a fdw rows

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of seats at the back, maybe take them out and put another locked in,

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that could be the cost of the player. There is no simple solution.

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It remains a contentious issue, divisive and emotive. Tom Whlliams

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reporting. Let's start with the pros and cons. Argue for or against?

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Against. I can see why you would want to go back to standing. You

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need to learn from Hillsborough There are some money reasons why

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fans want to do it. That wotld love to be able to stand, but I don't

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think it is the right thing. They would love to smoke, but thdy can't

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do that. The fans need to rdalise that it is safety first. I said

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somewhere in between. I plaxed at Colchester and experienced that The

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noise they made was unbelievable. There was another standing `rea in

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the ground. They give the tdam a massive lift. I can see the argument

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for. On the against, I would have to say the higher you go up thd league

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that from, the more people through the gates. It becomes more difficult

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to manage. The cost issue as well. The legacy of Hillsborough still

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looms large. Will that be the major block? Can you imagine, God forbid,

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but something happens again in the safe standing area? You want the

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fans to almost police themsdlves. One seat, one fan. The fans get so

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boisterous. They will not always stand in the same spot. Can the

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clubs afford this? They will have to replace ?20 seats with 100 point

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rail seats. People will want to stand up, other people to sht down.

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The higher you go up in the leagues, could you have stayed here of 4 ,000

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people with 10,000 people w`nted to stand up? It has to be agredd by the

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government and the governing bodies of the old. You think time hs a big

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issue. If you look back 25 xears, this seems little step backwards. If

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there is anyway we can make it safe 100%, but you can guarantee that. It

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is fascinating. The fans panel will refer to it later in the programme.

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To get in touch with us on twitter. `` do get in touch.

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On with the action and reaction to the games at the weekend. Plenty to

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play for a good sense of thd table. Leyton Orient against Colchdster

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United. Leyton Orient are shtting on top of the league. Colchestdr in

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17th position. It will be a very tough game for Colchester. This is

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their local derby this season in league one. Today is the turning

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point. Three points! We havd to park the bus!

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Sure enough, it was a Colchdster old boy, David Mooney, who opendd the

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score with a terrific vollex past Sam Walker, giving him the chance.

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`` no chance. Colchester fotght back with a lovely ball into the box

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Things were turning for the Essex side. Once again, Gavin Massey with

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an attempt on goal. David Wright did well to keep the ball in. Couldn't

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quite find the back of the net. However, Ryan Beck 's who dhd too

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rigidly well all afternoon, but a lovely ball into the back post. The

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equaliser was scored. It was up contest that header. Colchester for

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me, were worth a point. In the last minutes of the match, Leyton Orient

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pushing for the finishing goal, 2`1 was tough on Colchester United. I

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thought we were excellent. We really went for it. Even when we scored the

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equaliser we went for the whn. When we went down, we went for the draw.

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We just need a bit of luck `t the moment. Looking forward, thd next

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five out of six games are at home. Our away form is better! Whx is

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that? It is difficult somethmes playing at home in an empty

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stadium, or two thirds emptx stadium. That is one for yotr

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outtakes, isn't it? Good job I have a white top on. That is the luck I

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was looking for! Not even the birds flying for him the moment!

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The timing could not have bden better. And they were unlucky.

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Leyton Orient top of the le`gue Colchester 17th. They should have

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got more out of the game. What is going wrong for Joe Dunne? He is a

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believer in youth. But at the wrong end of the table. It was grdat to

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see him smiling. His team played really well and there is another

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massive game coming up against Rotherham tomorrow. I do not think

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there is an awful lot wrong they are a decent act. Let's take a look at

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the size of their challenge. Just above Bristol. And looking `t the

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points, it is going to be scary for the fans. The good thing about

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Colchester is they have a good goal difference. That keeps them out of

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the bottom four at the moment. And he is a chairman who backs his

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manager 's? Absolutely. I know him personally and he is a great guy, he

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backs whoever is in charge. He will be 100% behind them. That is enough

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for now. Plenty still to cole. The very best of the weekend's `ction

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featuring the region's teams, including one of the perforlances of

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the week. The Luke Freeman super`show. A stunning double

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strike. And we start of the fans Forum with the hot topic of safe

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standing. You can move and lingled together, it works for me.

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Well, it's rare that every team in the region is still fighting for

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something in March. Not least Ipswich. Let's start at Portman

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Road. That win against Birmhngham. Not pretty for the McCarthy side but

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it is effective. I do not think he cares that it is not pretty. He has

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got that solidity in the te`m. Look at the difference from when he take

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over. Look at this goal, a terrific ball to the back post. A grdat

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finish by Daryl Murphy. Exactly what they need to do, just keep getting

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those little scores. But thdy had 20 of chances. That was just whde of

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the post. The next one, long ball forward, not great defending. That

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terrible backpass. It could have been more convincing. Looking at the

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top of the Championship table. There are some big teams at the top of the

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Championship. The problem whth Ipswich is that at the moment

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they're not in a good run of form. It is a big ask for them. Especially

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this stage of the season. You need to be on a better run of form. The

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battle for promotion to get to the Championship. Peters wrap ask wildly

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off base at the moment. That's defeat against Crawley. Thex were

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unlucky on Saturday. And whdn you have that, this defines the whole

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game. Jack Baldwin, I do not know what he is doing, such a bl`tant

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handball. It could not be any further above his head. And a

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beautiful penalty just chipping it in. It is not the best timing going

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into this stage of the season. Similar to Ipswich, not on ` great

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run either. Not 1 million mhles away, MK Dons, they have had a

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consistency problem. Karl Robinson is always colourful, he criticised

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the dry pitch but he also is not shy of criticising his players. When the

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manager is blaming the pitch, it just gives the players an excuse to

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do it. This cross and header in at the end, that should have bden the

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one. Those missed opportunities almost divine the season. They

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needed to get something out of the game. Your thoughts at the bottom of

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the table? Stevenage on Sattrday were on fire and Luke Freem`n in

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particular. He got a couple of wonderful goals and had a h`nd in

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the other one. Bradford havd not been the best at home. They have

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come from behind. Graham dods get his team is playing. He has a system

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that he plays too. He is involved in that with Luke Freeman. For me the

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difference is that bit of composure in front of goal. There in ` good

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run of form and that is what they need to get off the bottom of the

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table. The difference is, the reason why Stevenage has a great chance is

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because of this man. Freeman. He will catch the eye of one of the

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higher teams above them. Thhs one has been clearly worked on hn the

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training ground. And it is such a fantastic feeling to pull that off.

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Graham looks completely unf`zed He always does. These teams ard big and

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organised. He knows what thdy can produce. They have gone to Bradford

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and got a fantastic result. The league one table is a fascinating

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one. Peter Browne, there ard still there. But they really have to

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score. It is close and they have a few games in hand. But therd is a

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nine point back to fifth pl`ce. And still five points before Swhndon.

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Peter Browne do have the pl`yers and the right manager. `` Peterborough.

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It is getting tight. They wdre bottom and had that seven points

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available. It must be psychologically a massive hdlp. A

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busy week for many of the tdams in league one this week. Particularly

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the likes of Colchester, Stdvenage. Commentary on BBC local radho. In

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League Two, there are two tdams at either ends of the league. The award

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for the unluckiest player goes to Southend's Daniel Bentley. Nine

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games without a win. He will have to try to instil some confidence in the

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team. They went one goal up. But look at this shot. It deserved a

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goal. There's nothing else xou can do. Bentley has already madd the

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dive. There's really he can do. And going very nicely for North`mpton.

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And they are beginning to l`unch their own comeback. This wonderful

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run of form. Four points from safety. And creating a bit of magic.

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He is. They have gone in and got the team playing very well. I h`ve seen

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them over the last couple of weeks a couple of times. Said Claird is on

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loan and that could be the difference between them staxing up

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and dropping out of the league. They could have got three points and been

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even further up the league. Southend just in the play`off places, in

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seventh spot in the league to table. Northampton at the other end, of

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course, have everything going for them now. They are above Torquay.

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Accrington Stanley must be looking over their shoulder. With

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Northampton, they have got ` couple of wins. And that will be scary for

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the teams around them. So to the Fans Panel where clubs from the

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Championship, League One and Two are represented courtesy of Ipswich

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Colchester and Southend. We kick off with their thoughts on the prospect

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of a return to safe standing. Good idea or bad?

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I would love to see standing back again. It has been sadly missed

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Certainly from a personal rdspect to, it made for a good atmosphere.

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You go with a group of May `nd you want some atmosphere and colpassion.

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and mingled together and did works and mingled together and did works

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for me. It is inconsistent. You can stand at rugby and other sports And

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between the top two divisions, if you go up from League one, `ll of a

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sudden it is not safe in thd Championship. That is the

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inconsistency which infuriates me. The problem for me is taking

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standing away, it has lost so much of the ad is fear. Football clubs,

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even at top level, it is sthll tough. Once you have a group of

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people united, the songs and all that kind of stuff comes and build

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the atmosphere. I'm completdly in favour of the Hillsborough Justice

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component. But I would love to see the choice. The game has ch`nged so

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much since those days. It h`s gone too far the other way and almost

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become a little bit sterile. Some of the stewards are easing up. Maybe

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they have relaxed their control a little bit. But when I go whth the

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group of lads, I go with my mates and do what to go and enjoy the

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match. You have a couple of beers and watched the game, support your

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team. When away supporters hn particular are standing in the key

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areas of the ground, you have something which is more dangerous.

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If you have a seat and start jumping around, the amount of peopld I have

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seen going over the top. It is almost counter`productive in some

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respect. There seems to be so many systems have introduced which would

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be safe and 1 million miles away from ever letting anything like

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Hillsborough happening again. German foot all is well attended and they

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have seating. If you have one ticket per space, you cannot overcrowd at

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Terrace. Terrace. So the he`lth and safety aspect is not going to be

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compromised. The North bank, it is a great place to be, they knocked it

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down. It is just going towards that sterile, all`seater, soulless

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atmosphere which is a shame. So we are agreed on that one. Not often

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that we agree, but we all h`ve concluded that we would likd to see

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it back. Brought in safely, definitely. It is great for the fans

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and they should have a choice. Plenty more of that over thd next

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few weeks. But first we havd to reflect on the problems of Norwich

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in the Premier League. If you're a Norwich fan, these are nervous

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times. Chris Hughton admitthng the club's in trouble. For points clear

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of safety but they have verx tough matches. They just have such massive

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gains. It is because they wdre two Aston Villa against Paul Lalbert. ``

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went to. We were both at Sptrs with Chris Hughton. We learnt our trade

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in the reserves many years `go under Chris. I think he has done `

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terrific job at the club. They will need to get their points on the

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table. And the table makes grim reading. The bottom half of the

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Premier League table is so tight. They have the international break.

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But those other teams they need to be going against and taking the

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points. Before we go, a quick word about next week's programme when

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we'll be catching up with someone well known to Late Kick`Off. Striker

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Leon McKenzie will be revealing how a switch from football pitch to

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boxing ring is helping comb`t his fight against depression. Someone

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with depression stepping into the ring is probably quite a dangerous

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situation. More of that fascinating story next week. And we takd a look

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at the fight to stay in and indeed win promotion to the foot whll be.

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`` to the Football League. That is it for this week. My thanks to Paul

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McVeigh and Kevin Watson. And send us your thoughts, we do read all

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your comments. That is it, we will be back next Monday night. Goodbye

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for now.

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