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Yes, less than a month to go, every goal counts, every fan cruchal,

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every point priceless. Tonight, relegation rivalry and a

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battle of the airwaves. It's headphones on as our commentators go

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mic to mic at the Lamex. It's all to play for, isn't it, this

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afternoon? Colchester have lost their last four, so they've got to

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find some form from somewhere, which they haven't shown recently.

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Thrown a lifeline, how the Cobblers got a huge helping hand in their

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battle for Football League survival. And, with our League gates down by

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20% in five years, just what's the solution to falling crowds? Our

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fans' forum gives us their verdict. It's been getting progressively

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worse, and we're now down to just having the stadium just over half

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full. Hello, good evening. Yes, l`ter we

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discuss why attendances at our grounds are falling and what can be

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done about it. But for many of our clubs, success will now be judged on

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survival. Whether you're Northampton Town or Norwich City, it's `ll about

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the fight against the dreaddd drop. So, plenty to discuss tonight in the

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capable hands of stand`in presenter Paul McVeigh last week ` well done,

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good work ` and, of course, Colchester boss Joe Dunne. Joe,

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fantastic result for you on Saturday. Yeah, it was an ilportant

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three points at such an important stage of the season. We'll take a

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look at it now, because it was a proper six`pointer, wasn't ht? Both

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sides scrapping at the wrong end of League One. And for our loc`l`radio

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commentators, these are nervous times, too, as they chart their

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club's rise and fall. To thd battle on the pitch and on the airwaves at

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the Lamex. I'm Glenn Speller, I'm the sports

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producer at BBC Essex. I'm Steve Watkins, I'm the Stevenage

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commentator for BBC Three Counties Radio.

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I've followed Colchester Unhted for much of the season up and down the

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country, and what's not been a great year so far in League One. H've seen

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all the ups and downs for Stevenage so far this season. Unfortunately,

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most of them have been downs. We're hoping for better things thhs

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afternoon. Well, quite simply, this is a massive game for certahnly

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Stevenage, and I guess it is for you as well at Colchester. Yeah, I think

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Stevenage being bottom of the table, they could argue they maybe need the

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points more than Colchester, but Colchester have got the worst form

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at the moment in League One, so they need to pull out some points from

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somewhere. Cos they're really getting dragged into it. Very much

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so for Stevenage, cos I think defeat today, and going into Sheffheld

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United next week, we could be looking at relegation next weekend.

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I think if Colchester can gdt a win today, it puts them seven points

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ahead of Stevenage then, dodsn't it? So I think effectively, if xou like,

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knock Stevenage out of the dquation as far as Colchester are concerned.

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So, one of those relegation places taken up. But they're the tdam with

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the worst form, they're the ones that have been sucked into ht,

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whereas Stevenage have been fighting it most of the season, haven't they?

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Of course, a win for Steven`ge and they're only a point behind

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Colchester. It's all to plax for, isn't it, this afternoon. Colchester

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have lost their last four, so they're got to find some form from

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somewhere, which they haven't shown recently. OK, let's see how this

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pans out. Into the area, and he finds the net!

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It's the worst`possible start for Colchester United!

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Still, Colchester try anothdr shot. Good work on that far side.

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He might just find him with a shot ` goal! The moment he hit that, he

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knew it was going to find the back of the net. Stevenage one,

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Colchester United one. In goes the corner ` it's hht the

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post, it's in now! It's the ideal start to the second half! Now,

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there's another threat for Stevenage. The shot. Can he find

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him? He goes for goal and scores, his second of the afternoon.

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Colchester now, there's daylight between them.

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He puts it in the net, that's a lovely finish from the Stevdnage

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midfielder. And a little bit of hope for the home side, and a nervous

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last few minutes. There's a bit of an argument right

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in front of these terraces. Ten 12, 14, 15 men. It's a red card. The Us

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fans are all on their feet, and listen to that.

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That's Colchester three points clear of the League One relegation zone

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now, and also, vitally from their point of view, seven points clear of

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Stevenage, so they may well feel that's one place that won't be

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catching them. Yeah, on what we ve seen today, it looks like Colchester

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are probably going to be safe. From Stevenage's point of view, the

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manager's said he's got to win the next four games, the four g`mes that

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are remaining. That starts `t Sheffield United on Good Frhday So,

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it's going to be a tough ask. Graham Westley's done it before, btt I

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don't think he's ever climbdd a mountain as big as this. I think the

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thing for Colchester now is about stringing results together, getting

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two wins back`to`back, and hf they can do that, they'll be find for the

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rest of the season. Wish yot all the best. Thanks for that! I thhnk we

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need it! Great work, and great work by Joe

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Dunne and Colchester United. A hugely important victory, you've

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been struggling with form. What did you do differently on Saturday? We

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just instilled belief and took our chances. We've been making chances

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in the games we've been in. Unfortunately, we haven't bden

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taking them. But certainly, Saturday we took three. And huge bre`thing

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space now in that league table. Paul, for sides like Colchester

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wins like that are priceless. Joe realised that if Stevenage had won

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that game, they'd have only been one point off them, so the fact that

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now, Joe, you've got that lhttle bit of breathing space, but it hs still

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pretty tight at the bottom. Yeah, it's certainly not done yet,

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there's plenty of teams in there and teams that can get dragged hn. You

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have to keep going to the vdry end. For Graham Westley, a different set

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of circumstances. It's worrying times for him and his

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team. It's been a difficult afternoon it

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reflects the way we've been this season. To turn it around and make

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the impossible happen is gohng to be a big ask, but you know what I'm

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about, you know what we're `bout. We won't take no for an answer, we ll

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give the last four games evdrything we possibly can.

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Some important fixtures for Stevenage coming up, but ond of the

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things he said as well, Paul, he's questioning the mentality of the

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team, he says they're paying the price for sitting on leads. That's

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not the kind of thing you w`nt your manager to say. No, and I think as

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well, the fact they haven't won in eight games, the confidence must be

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absolutely rock bottom. And the fixtures, Joe, coming up, ilportant

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for you but important for Stevenage. Let's take a look at them. Xeah

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we've got an important Eastdr period coming up now. Oldham at hole on

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Friday and going to Crewe. @gain, two more teams that are in `nd

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around us, and wins are crucial And from your perspective, key for both

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sides. They are, but whenevdr you see that Stevenage's fixturds as

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well, because Stevenage are right at the bottom of the league, and you

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think going to Sheffield Unhted after they've just played in the

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semifinal of the FA Cup, and then, of course, at home to Bristol City.

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At this stage of the season, everything counts. Doesn't ht just.

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Plenty, though, still to cole on Late Kick Off tonight.

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So close yet so far. Luton Town s return to the Football Leagte denied

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by East Anglian rivals. And, dare to dream, Ipswich down

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Donny to keep their play`off hopes alive. Could Town be heading back to

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the Premier League? It wasn't just a full house at the

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Lamex. Just over 3,000, I think and the battle of getting bums on seats

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is getting more and more difficult, blame tough economic times or mixed

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fortunes on the pitch. Thesd figures tonight from three of our clubs in

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our region really tell the story. At Ipswich, Colchester and Southend,

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the difference in the past five years very telling. There you can

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see the difference at Ipswich, the same for Colchester, a smaller

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amount, and for Southend as well. Joe Dunne is with us, it is

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difficult for everybody. From your perspective as a manager, how

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problematic and how concerndd are you by the falling gates? F`lling

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gates have a key role to pl`y, based on the 60% we have to operate in

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terms of turnover. So, big gates are important for us in terms of how it

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affects the budget and what type of player you can bring in. Thhs is one

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of the reasons why we've decided to look at our academy and bring

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through as many youth players as we can. How difficult is it? If you're

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a manager, you're playing in a great stadium, but it's not full, is it?

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It must be pretty difficult? It s difficult, sometimes there's an

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atmosphere, sometimes there's no atmosphere. We've a 10,000`seater

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stadium and you've shown yotr stat about our average attendancd. But

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it's been like that for a pdriod of time. I remember playing at Layer

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Road when we had a similar type of gates. The difference was it was

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compact and it was a good atmosphere. The trend worrids the

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fans as much as the club thdmselves, judging by the Late Kick Off fans'

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forum. I've been a Colchester supporter for

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longer than I care to remember. I was one of the 16,000 at Laxer Road

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when we beat Leeds in '71, `nd the ground when it's full and rocking is

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fabulous. But you need the people there to get the atmosphere in the

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stadium. Obviously, the fin`ncial implications are self`explanatory.

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It's just really sad that the crowds are falling. Certainly, specifically

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my club, we could do much, luch better. You've only got to look at

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Ipswich. Since we got releg`ted you expect a fall`off of crowds, but

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it's been getting progressively worse, and we're now down to just

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having the stadium just over half full. It's a 30,000`seater stadium

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and we're averaging 15, 16,000. It's a lot of revenue to be down on. And

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even when we did get relegated, we were still hitting 20 plus for a few

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seasons afterwards. But the problem is I just think they're alidnating

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the casual supporter, because to turn up on match day, they charge

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you a premium, 30, 35 quid ` ticket to sit pretty much anywhere in the

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ground. More if you sit in the premium seats, if you will. I do

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think that things need to bd done specifically to encourage the

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youngsters along, cos they're the supporters of tomorrow. I d`re say

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you've been supporting Southend since a boy, haven't you? Ydah,

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probably about 20 years now. Our crowds aren't particularly bad.

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We've got a good marketing team at Southend, we do tend to put some

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deals on. Earlier in the se`son we had a home game against York City

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and charged a fiver to get hn. The ground was full. Obviously, you run

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the risk of annoying your season`ticket holders if yot do

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that, but when the FA Cup g`me against Hull came round, thdy

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reduced the season`ticket holders' prices, and that was full as well.

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So they can be compensated. Yeah. It all depends on how we're getting on

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on the pitch. I think it dods to a point with all clubs, but

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ironically, our lowest crowds over the last ten years have been this

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season, which has been our best season for the last ten years,

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probably. So, it's ironic. Do you feel that once supporters are lost

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that it takes a while for them to come back? Yes, I think thex're

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being prices out of it, I think that because you've got lower crowds

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there's less atmosphere, so it's less enjoyable. That was thd thing

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that dragged me into football as a youngster, standing on the terrace

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on the milk crates, it was ` real tribal atmosphere, you felt part of

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something much bigger. Thosd experiences make you a lifelong

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clan. Yes, that is what I al saying, getting the youngstdrs

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hooked. I started off... I started off for ?1 a ticket, and I `m still

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going. When we are doing well, if you do reduce the prices and give

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people something back, it c`n pay dividends. We have had the ground

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full twice, which is not bad. I wonder if there is too much choice

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for a lot of fans, they can go to any game. You can have more

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options, and round Europe especially. When I see that the

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crowds are down, there are numerous reasons, the economic downttrn,

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people have less money, and a lot of it is what you are seeing on the

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pitch, did you want to watch your lower league teams when you can

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watch the Premier League quds`mac how do you compete with Livdrpool or

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Manchester United ques`mac dash`mac? Such a fundamental tallish dash`mac

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choice of entertainment, it is the brand of football they want to see,

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and the opposition they want to see. It does come down to a choice, the

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person would want to come and watch something that has a probabhlity of

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being successful, and based on what they can choose, parting with their

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hard earned money to watching a good brand. A fascinating subject. We

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would love to hear what you think on Twitter and on Facebook. As it

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happens, Ipswich Town enjoydd their biggest crowd of the season at

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Portman Road. 19,500 people there at Portman Road. They're probably

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thinking now that they're on the verge of getting into the Premier

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League. Of course they are. You can see Tommy Smith, a great ch`nce

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there. He has done well in the last few weeks. Putting the ball in the

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box for Murphy. How well has this guy done? He has really stepped up

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to the mark. That's his thirteenth goal of the season. Goals are

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important at this level, especially to get Ipswich back into thd Premier

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League. They are capable of doing it. They have got momentum `t the

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moment. Unfortunately, he h`s given away the penalty at the othdr end.

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This was in the last ten minutes of the match. You think, it looks

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pretty clear cut from there and for Chris Brown, just slots that away.

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Mcarthy probably thought he would get a point out of it. A good come

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back. This is the big talking point in the match. As he goes in for a

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challenge, it looks as if hd has gone over the top. The ball is

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eventually broken to Chambers on the right. It is a great finish and an

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important win for Ipswich. Ht keeps the momentum going. McCarthx will be

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relieved, hugely relieved bx performances like that. If they make

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the play`offs, what do other sides need to be wary of? I think, the

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teams in the play`off in thd Championship at the moment `re of a

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high quality and they are all playing well at the moment. The team

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that bounces into the play`offs with that momentum can really catse a lot

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of damage. I suppose when you look at that and just see the action the

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fact that the challenge comds in, you know, he has gone on and scored

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literally five seconds afterwards and that looked like a red card The

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referee can make a decision. He is not that far away from it. Ht

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depends on his angle. Mick said they maybe got away with one there.

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Looking at the footage, maybe so. The referee is there to refdree the

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game. Ipswich went on to score. Key fixtures over the Easter brdak for

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Ipswich. These are make or break, like so many sides in the rdgion.

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Watford on Saturday and then Bournemouth. I think Watford are not

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really playing for anything. They have no chance of getting to the

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play`offs. Bournemouth will be the tricky one. That for me is going to

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be the key fixture. That is the battle to get out of the

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Championship. What about thd push to get into it? Peterborough and MK

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Dons have been in a chase for the final promotion place in Le`gue One,

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a race that would appear now to be won. Yes, you would think that.

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Whether it is the confidencd they got from winning the cup. Jtst a

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terrific header. It really hs a thumping header. Even though there

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was a chance here, just one chance, one goal. That is it. As a set piece

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goal, they scored a set piece goal against us not long ago. MK Dons as

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well, Robinson, a few weeks ago we were talking about it was a people

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talking the talk. Whenever H saw them playing against Coventry, they

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played so well. They passed the ball well. It looks like the defdnding

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here, a good young player, just handed it to them on a platd. 2`0

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and that was just the end of it It must be so frustrating for Robinson.

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One week his team is playing like world beaters but the next day do

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not look like they will score. Interesting statistic. They will be

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disappointed with the momentum of nearly going into the play`off

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position. It is difficult. The League One table at the top looks

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like this. If you are Ferguson, what are you thinking now? What do you

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think of the way Fergie is handling the pressure? I think they have done

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great. Especially after the momentum of winning the cup and in their

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play`off position now, it is a case of the better strategy for home and

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away. And the fixtures for both these sides? Peterborough, really

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important ones. Bradford aw`y and then they travel on Easter Londay at

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home against Carlisle. You look at the table and they have pretty much

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cemented sixth place. I cannot see them messing up at this stage in the

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season. They have done enough. Huge disappointment for Pete Winkleman.

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He is desperate at Colchestdr to try and get through. What does ` manager

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do in that situation? He will still want to win as many games as he can.

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He has an effect on the top of the table. On now to Northampton Town's

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desperate fight to stay in the Football League. The fight could go

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on till the final day of thd season. They know they are in with `

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fighting chance. Chris Wilddr is working wonders? He is. Even if you

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did get a little bit of luck from the keeper, you have to havd a

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strike on goal and you have to be on target. When you are forward, you

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are asked to hit the target. Anything can happen. The go`lkeeper

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has to do it. Whenever you `re down at the bottom and you get that kind

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of luck, it is so massive for you. You can practice as much as you

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want. But it does not ready matter how much practice you do, you have

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to have a little bit of luck. You have to put your bodies on the line.

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They certainly did that on Saturday. This is the thing. Down the left

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hand side, they have alreadx got the goal. So unlucky. We were t`lking

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about luck and then he hit the post. It does not look like they `re short

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of confidence at all. Like xou say, two back to back wins are ilportant

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and that gives them momentul going into the final. The fans were hugely

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happy at the end. Their fixtures are going to be fundamental. We all talk

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about how important Easter hs, but if you are Northampton Town, Wycombe

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and then Portsmouth, it could be done and dusted in a week's time?

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Well, the funny thing is, Wxcombe are just above themselves in the

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bottom two at the bottom of League Two and with Wycombe on the same

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points, it's just a goal difference thing. And then, Portsmouth. I don't

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know, Portsmouth are probably safe but Northampton are strugglhng. Yes,

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you think Portsmouth had a great result. That probably put them in a

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safe position. What is the first key ingredient at this time? Yot have to

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compete. You have to put yotr body on the line and start thinkhng about

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getting the ball down and playing. Great determination can plax a part.

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So the Cobblers giving themselves a fighting chance. At the othdr end of

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the table, just as tense for Southend fans, hoping to extend

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their season with a date in the play`offs. It is working well for

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them at the moment. It was per result on Saturday. That was such a

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clear cut penalty. Jack slotted this and maybe he was a bit luckx. I

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think so. It was a strange one. It looked like he would take it with

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his left but changed to his right. I've seen Southend this season and I

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think they've done terrificly well. It's a disappointing result, but

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they shouldn't lose too much heart about this. I suppose when they re

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coming up, they did have ch`nces. Barry put that one over the box

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It's one defeat in four gamds but it's a really good run of form. Phil

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Brown seems to be the master of his craft in negotiating this end of the

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season? Yes, he has vast experience in terms of getting teams to the

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Premier League. He's passing on that knowledge now to Southend. When you

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look at the top of the tabld, just above Oxford. But there's so much

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competition. York or Plymouth or Mansfield will think they c`n get

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into the play`offs. It's all about momentum at this stage. The three

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wins out of four for Southend keeps them in there. Great opporttnities,

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especially this weekend. Rochdale are doing pretty well but Accrington

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Stanley are mid table. Also, Phil Brown, as we have said, has the

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experience. Doesn't he just. As you'll know, our brief here on Late

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Kick Off East is primarily to reflect the fortunes of the seven

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Football League teams in our patch. That number is about to increase

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next season, by at least ond, possibly two or three clubs,

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including Luton. We thought we'd be celebrating with them tonight but

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things didn't quite work out as planned at Kenilworth Road, as

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Jonathan Park now reports. Ht was the day Luton were to be crowned

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champions. We're going up! @t least that is what 10,000 Luton f`ns

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expected. Demanded. Come on, Luton! We are here Braintree have played a

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few games and are tired. Thhs is it. It's been five long years. We want

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to get back into the Football League, where we belong. Banished to

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the non`league for financial misdemeanours, it has taken five

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years to get to this day. It was a nervy day of destiny. Peopld have

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nerves. It would be weird if people did not have nerves. It is ` big

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occasion. I think that adds to the excitement. After 200 games, this is

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the ticket back into the football league. There was another tdam with

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something to play for. Braintree have been punching above thdir

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weight. Nobody was expecting what would unfold.

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Left footed. It is clipped hn. Number 19. At the near post and

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deflect in. It is another one. James Melly gets Braintree a lead. Is it

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going to be a sending off? The referee has a big decision to make.

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It is read. Very nervy here at half`time. He does not what anyone

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was expecting. This is a sex through. Braintree score thdir third

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goal. It is tight. Clearing field. It is inside the box. Into the

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corner. A great penalty. It goes back. He takes the deflection. That

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brought looped and right back into this. Braintree move into a play`off

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position. Luton Town have to wait another day. We have been wobbly.

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Our performances have not bden as they were earlier in the se`son The

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pressure is on. Today did not go for us. We all expected the trophy to be

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presented. We will do it. Wd all have faith. Still confident? Without

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a doubt. After putting it into context, this game disappointing

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that the whole season has bden amazing for the letters go back and

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do it all again. It is just a matter of time, isn't it? They havd been

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flying all season. They havd had 11 wins in 16 games. That is jtst no

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way they were not get promoted. Braintree spoilt the party was that

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they have a fighting chance? They are a good side. It is all `bout

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Luton Town now. I would expdct Luton Town to go up as champions.

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Braintree are certainly there. If Cambridge do not win tomorrow night,

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Luton Town will be promoted. I think they have the experience of getting

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there. They have had so much chances in so many seasons. This is the

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season. For Norwich, they are exactly where

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they did not want to be. Can they do it? Yes. You do not sound too

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optimistic. It is going to be so, so difficult. When you look at the next

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fixtures, you think this will be the most difficult run in as I have ever

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seen. Liverpool at home. How they would get anything out of that? Then

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you'll have Manchester Unitdd and Chelsea. It is not impossible. They

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must still believe they can do it. They have to treat every gale as a

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cup final. We all know what the atmosphere will be like. Wh`t does

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Neil Adams need to do? He ndeds to make sure the players still believe.

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Keep them believing. I am stre Norwich can do it. Thank yot very

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much to our guests this week. Good luck this week because the Daster

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break for top we would love to hear from you. From all of us here, have

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a good Easter weekend. Every time I see you,

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it's shorts and a dressing gown

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