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And tonight, we hear about Senegal and St James's Park. We hear from | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
the man who is on the verge of winning promotion for Darlington | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
and we are in the company of one of our most celebrated photographers. | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
Evening all. Yes, the man behind the celebrated Homes of Football | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
exhibition at the National Football Museum, Stuart Roy Clarke, is with | :00:42. | :00:51. | |
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us and so too, former Boro and England defender Danny Mills. | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
Just in time to give us your thoughts on the extraordinary | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
events at the Stadium of Light. The last three weeks have been | :01:00. | :01:05. | |
incredible. We all knew that when Paolo Di Canio came in there will | :01:05. | :01:12. | |
be some reaction - good or bad. For some fans it has been fantastic and | :01:12. | :01:16. | |
the Derby game, and I think you have to wait to see whether that | :01:16. | :01:23. | |
will make a real difference, form goes out the window in a | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
Newcastle/Sunderland derby. They have their win and it looks like | :01:27. | :01:37. | |
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they will be safe. The theatre is spectacular. He has earned himself | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
eight Total mandate across the club and he can do no wrong. Everybody | :01:44. | :01:48. | |
is suddenly... From all the political gerrymandering, everybody | :01:48. | :01:57. | |
is... You get a honeymoon period, don't you? He has got them say. A | :01:57. | :02:03. | |
bit like a firefighter coming in. I think we have to wait till next | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
season to see how the players react long-term to what he has done and | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
he has already upset a few. Great this season, but there is a long | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
time to go yet. Football needs characters. He is an absolute dream, | :02:19. | :02:27. | |
isn't he? But you couldn't get much more animated than Martin O'Neill | :02:27. | :02:33. | |
in his early years. Actually you can, Paolo Di Canio. For a | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
photographer, you need characters on the pitch but I need them off | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
the pitch as well in the crowd. If the game is boring, I can seek out | :02:43. | :02:48. | |
all sorts of interesting people. Danny can't wander off a pitch but | :02:48. | :02:55. | |
I can. There will never be a born in a moment when Paolo De Canio is | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
around. Newcastle United striker Papiss | :02:57. | :03:00. | |
Demba Cisse cares a lot for his home country, Senegal. And, in | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
particular, the city where he was born, Sedhiou. He told Andy May | :03:04. | :03:14. | |
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about his charity work there and He has become one of Newcastle's | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
most popular players. He is making more of an impact in his home | :03:40. | :03:46. | |
country though, helping to save lives through his own foundations. | :03:46. | :03:54. | |
Senegal is my country and my city is, at Sedhiou. It is a small city. | :03:55. | :04:04. | |
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The people do not have money and a Your aim is to buy an ambulance | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
because your first job was as a driver, wasn't it? Yes, to drive | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
for an ambulance was my first job. I think I'd by an ambulance for my | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
city, it is important for me. Before I see people dive. How old | :04:32. | :04:42. | |
were you? 15. That c UN, isn't it? Yes, that's why I stopped going to | :04:42. | :04:52. | |
school. After I tried this job. After I had money, I gave it to my | :04:52. | :05:02. | |
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What sort of unaffected that have on you, seeing people die it and | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
sit at such a young age? He it was very difficult for me. I and the UN | :05:11. | :05:21. | |
at that time. Did you ever cry? the first time I cried. In this job, | :05:21. | :05:28. | |
you become strong. It is my city, my city, my brother, my sister, my | :05:28. | :05:36. | |
friend, my family. It is normal I give an ambulance for the city. It | :05:36. | :05:46. | |
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is normal for me. Sometimes, the people look at me... But the star. | :05:48. | :05:57. | |
But me, I say I am not a star, I am just a normal player. The man who | :05:57. | :06:05. | |
plays the football. I like the people and the people like me. And, | :06:05. | :06:11. | |
yeah... What does it mean to wear the number nine shirt for Newcastle | :06:11. | :06:21. | |
United? The number nine is a big number. It is the number before for | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
Alan Shearer. It is a big number. I tried to give the best for the | :06:28. | :06:37. | |
number. Sometimes it is difficult but all the time, I tried. What do | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
you in jury in Newcastle? I enjoy the people. The people from New | :06:43. | :06:51. | |
park - might Newcastle are a nice people. I'd enjoy this city. I say, | :06:51. | :07:00. | |
if I'd tried good my job, I enjoy the city. When you score, we see | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
this beaming, infectious smile. What does it mean to you when you | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
put the ball in the back of the net for Newcastle? For me, it is the | :07:10. | :07:18. | |
best in the world to score a goal. If I score I go crazy. I like to | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
score a goal, it is my job. We saw it against Fulham. You liked that, | :07:24. | :07:32. | |
didn't you? Yes, I thought, I'll go and see the fans. It gave three | :07:32. | :07:40. | |
points for the team. I say, I think the game is finished. If I go and | :07:40. | :07:46. | |
see the fans I will take a yellow card but it is OK, it is OK. That | :07:46. | :07:56. | |
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is why I say, if I scored a goal I He comes across as a thoroughly | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
nice fellow and he feels a huge sense of responsibility to where he | :08:04. | :08:12. | |
comes from. Great dignity. I was in West Africa covering football and | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
every day from my hotel I could see this game going on with a brilliant | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
player and he turned out to be the garden of the hotel. I said to the | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
manager, can I take him to one of the Premier League teams and | :08:27. | :08:34. | |
introduce him and he said, be my guest. This was next door to | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
Senegal. Similar background to Susie Gill then I had to leave and | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
on the way to the airport a military coup happened. The hotel | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
got closed and he lost his job and I never find out what became of him. | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
It is one less player making it to France and the stepping stone. It | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
is a great story. The point is, such are the margins and there is a | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
lot of football talent out there. There is a responsibility to a | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
nation like Africa and the figurehead status that somebody | :09:10. | :09:17. | |
like Cisse will play over there. There is an aspirational values. | :09:17. | :09:23. | |
Mali, I never saw so many football games going on. People were so | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
knowledgeable about, mostly the premier league, but all sorts of | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
things. That is their passport out of a country that they love and | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
they want to pay back in some way if they get the chance. He kept his | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
goals going. I suppose he has his freedom and paying -- playing out | :09:43. | :09:50. | |
of position. He is making a contribution? I think there was a | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
conflict before as to who was the number one. He seems a lovely guy | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
but all centre-forwards love the limelight and they want to be the | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
number one with their first name on the team-sheet. He has proved that | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
now and he has done well. He has settled incredibly quickly. After | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
the honeymoon period, it takes a while to get used to their | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
surroundings and speaking a different language. It is not easy. | :10:17. | :10:23. | |
He has got over that and hopefully, next season he will really kick on. | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
He has hit the ground running. So, Stuart has spent the last 25 | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
years photographing football in his own unique way. If you do not | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
recognise his face, you may well recognise his work. Here's a brief | :10:35. | :10:44. | |
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insight into how he goes about his The early years were like anything | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
formative, a bit like the first case of a teenage romance or | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
something. I went into it with eyes wide. I could almost have done the | :11:09. | :11:17. | |
Homes of Football bend. Not just Victorian arenas and iconic names | :11:17. | :11:27. | |
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but to show how it was going to I very often arrive at a ridiculous | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
hour. For a 3 o'clock kick-off, I might arrive at 9 o'clock. I want | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
to be the first person there and see everyone arrive and be the last | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
person to see them go. I likely to be my event as well as an event in | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
his own way. Sometimes I like to pick out people. Sometimes I get to | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
look at the dressing room and that is interesting. I would be trying | :12:29. | :12:34. | |
to build up a complete picture of that particular home of football | :12:34. | :12:44. | |
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He he mentioned first cases and it has got me wondering... -- kisses. | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
You are always on the lookout for the unusual, I guess. Your work | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
reeks of character. Back to the action and when penalties are being | :13:22. | :13:31. | |
taken, people can't understand. The man City Stars confuse me because | :13:31. | :13:38. | |
they have all turned around. That is a fantastic image. That sort of | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
behaviour in the crowds is amazing. We will take a look at one or two | :13:44. | :13:50. | |
of your keynote moments. He is there a danger that it is much | :13:50. | :13:57. | |
harder now for you to capture in the modern era the kind of | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
quirkiness of the character as football grounds have got sanitised. | :14:02. | :14:11. | |
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Perhaps you might see that some of the salt of the game that people | :14:17. | :14:23. | |
sentimental poor. But some of the modern grounds need to be full. | :14:23. | :14:33. | |
they have the character, say, of Emerson Park? I guess you would | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
fixate on if they go with the cigarette in hand, at the urinals | :14:36. | :14:44. | |
at the back of the ground, all the things we cannot do? Yes, they were | :14:44. | :14:51. | |
built in stages, lots of them, and now there are 20 or 30 grounds that | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
are completely broke new. But I still find the charm. I love this | :14:57. | :15:07. | |
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one. How long did you have to wait to get that shot? About 20 minutes. | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
I noticed the dog very early. He watched more intent be banned | :15:12. | :15:18. | |
anyone. He went up behind the goal for the second half. He had to pay | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
two quid! I can sometimes spend an hour focused on one person waiting | :15:26. | :15:33. | |
for that moment. The Carlisle bomb was in the last second of the match. | :15:33. | :15:40. | |
If you are a Carlisle fan, do not leave before the end. On this one, | :15:40. | :15:48. | |
the sheer intensity and look on the faces. Beautiful picture. Even | :15:48. | :15:56. | |
though you do so it yourself! Do football people appreciate the | :15:56. | :16:06. | |
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wider context -- wider context of the game? So on time she do, | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
sometimes you do not. Once the game kicks off, you are so intent on | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
what you're doing. But once you are away from football, you see people | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
in the street, of course you understand it. All sat on the bench, | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
you can see the passion that people have. When you are in the game it | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
is great difficult because you are so focused on what you are doing. | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
Often some of the best moments are the benches, and watching the | :16:38. | :16:45. | |
managers. As we approach the end of the season, how did our teams in | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
the Football League third this weekend? Pretty much business as | :16:48. | :16:58. | |
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Forest gave Middlesbrough a morale boost ahead of the visit to the | :17:01. | :17:11. | |
Reebok Stadium. The early momentum was with Bolton. The Boro | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
goalkeeper was soon called into action again. Bolton remained a | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
Fred Coe Ford after the break but had a big slice of luck with the | :17:24. | :17:34. | |
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opener from Chris Eagles. -- eight threatening force. Kieron Dyer got | :17:36. | :17:45. | |
his second goal in eight Boro shirt. Marvin Sordell finished from the | :17:45. | :17:51. | |
spot. Things were going from bad to worse for Boro. This time there was | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
no doubting the Guild of Jonathan Woodgate as he held back Marvin | :17:56. | :18:05. | |
Sordell, leaving his side to finish the game with 10 men. Carlisle | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
arrived in Bournemouth unbeaten in their last six but their opponents | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
from the brink of promotion and determined to end the day on a high. | :18:14. | :18:23. | |
The Cherries took the lead when Steve Cook's header went in. But | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
before the break, Carlisle nearly pulled one back but were denied by | :18:28. | :18:34. | |
the woodwork. In the second half, Lee Miller drew them level in | :18:34. | :18:41. | |
spectacular style. But parity were short-lived. Six minutes later, | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
Harry Arter restored the lead for Bournemouth. Carlisle were | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
spectators as Bournemouth clawed their promotion party and Brett | :18:49. | :18:56. | |
Pitman fired home to secure and eight successive win for the | :18:56. | :19:04. | |
Cherries. Hartlepool had already slipped through the League One | :19:04. | :19:13. | |
trapdoor before the visit of Brentford. The Pools keeper looked | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
to be in for a busy afternoon. But Hartlepool but undeterred and took | :19:19. | :19:25. | |
a deserved lead after 25 minutes. Luke James had time to pick his | :19:25. | :19:32. | |
spot. John Hughes has predicted a massive future in the game for the | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
teenage striker. Hartlepool have won only five times at Victoria | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
Park this campaign and the three points slipped away here. They | :19:43. | :19:50. | |
could not clear their lines and Marcello Trotta was allowed to turn | :19:50. | :20:00. | |
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and fire home. York Kate and sells a lifeline in | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
their bid to avoid dropping out of the Football League. -- gave | :20:07. | :20:16. | |
themselves. They took just 55 seconds to find a breakthrough. | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
Southend recovered well. Ryan Leonard equalised. But York were | :20:23. | :20:31. | |
not to be denied for long and were back in front before the break. The | :20:31. | :20:37. | |
ball eventually fell for Matty Blair to score his seventh goal of | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
the season. The win means that York are now two points above the drop | :20:44. | :20:49. | |
zone with their final game to come against Dagenham and Redbridge. | :20:49. | :20:59. | |
Gateshead secured their status with 82-0 win. Berwick Rangers won | :20:59. | :21:08. | |
Commiserations to Hartlepool on the relegation. But at least the fate | :21:08. | :21:16. | |
of York is in their own hands. Mathematically it goes all the way | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
up to 18th. I do not think Torquay and Plymouth are going to be in it. | :21:22. | :21:27. | |
A point for York will be enough. But a waiter Dagenham and | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
Redbridge? I think they have to go with the attitude that they want to | :21:30. | :21:39. | |
win the game. After a torrid few years, Darlington 1883 have enjoyed | :21:39. | :21:49. | |
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every birth in the Northern League. Liquidation, relegation four times | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
over, and their players. It looked as though things could not get much | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
bleaker at Darlington last summer. They needed a saviour and it came | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
either shape of one of their former players, Martin Gray. He has done a | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
brilliant job. He has galvanised the fans and brought in some really | :22:19. | :22:28. | |
good players for this level. When you think at the start of the | :22:28. | :22:35. | |
season he did not have 11 players. To be top of the table now, and | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
hopefully winning the league, it is tremendous. The chairman gave me | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
some money and a piece of paper and had to build our team. You knew was | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
could be tough to attract better players but as the season has gone | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
on, we have chopped and changed, and the club has been fantastic in | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
giving me finances when it has been very difficult. What we started | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
with an where we are today, we have probably made nine changes since | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
August. Darlington were a football and the clock for 88 years, and | :23:10. | :23:16. | |
that has brought a certain pressure to their quest to win the Northern | :23:16. | :23:23. | |
League this season. So far, a colossal 116 points happy one. | :23:23. | :23:29. | |
players have played with that pressure from day one. Two-person | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
people turn up and they expect us to win and score goals, and | :23:32. | :23:41. | |
everybody wants to be due -- 2000 people. They have handled the | :23:41. | :23:51. | |
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The players are used to playing at this level. It is different for me | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
and the coaching staff, we have been fortunate to play at the | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
highest level. But the players unused the level, you used to the | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
facilities, keys to the surfaces. We try to make his as professional | :24:17. | :24:24. | |
as possible. We try and do things as we should do as the Football | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
League club. A return to the Football League is at a target for | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
the future, as well be having a Crown to call their own. But | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
Heritage Park, which they share with Bishop Auckland, has been | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
something of a fortress for them, with 19 wins. It is a great ground, | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
but we are about local football. We need at ground very similar to this. | :24:50. | :24:57. | |
There would be ideal for us, for the next few seasons at least. | :24:57. | :25:04. | |
seven games in hand, Spennymoor can still mathematically catch | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
Darlington, but they look favourites to win the Northern | :25:08. | :25:16. | |
League this season, and they would live up to the eight tour of | :25:16. | :25:21. | |
football. Do long journey back has begun. The team spirit here is the | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
best I have come across. I have been in the game 25 years and had | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
fantastic team mates and tracing -- changing rooms. But they are very | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
proud to put the shirt, and that is what I expect. When people come and | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
talk to me, it is not about money, and want them to play for | :25:42. | :25:48. | |
Pollington. We know we have four or five levels decline back to the | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
Football League Conference. To do it every year will be a massive ask. | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
But as long as we get a great support and we continue improving, | :25:57. | :26:07. | |
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I'm sure we can get somewhere near that in the next few years. | :26:10. | :26:16. | |
As and when Darlington do finally seal their promotion, they will | :26:16. | :26:26. | |
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face Scarborough Athletic, another club from our region. Spennymoor | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
could still catch them. If they win all their games in hand. Probably | :26:33. | :26:41. | |
unlikely. The Northern League is the second oldest leak in the world. | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
It is only just a little bit younger than the Football League. | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
I'm really looking forward to doing the Northern League for a good part | :26:52. | :27:01. | |
of the next year. Players rushing from their daytime jobs, thinking I | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
am captain of the site, and it kicks off in half an hour. It is | :27:06. | :27:13. | |
fascinating. Real football, Danny. I have seen it. At Harrogate Town | :27:13. | :27:18. | |
the other week, they are doing a fantastic job. Team sheets go at | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
the last minute and sometimes names have to be crossed off. And it is | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
good that I can put these pictures in the national football museum | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
alongside some of these big names. That is what the 100 it to the | :27:34. | :27:36. | |
anniversary of the Football Association should be all about. | :27:36. | :27:43. | |
You have to hand it to Darlington, all that professionalism. They | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
bring a certain standard. And the fans have been brilliant. I thought | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
they would struggle. Darlington fans have often told me that the | :27:54. | :28:01. | |
club would collapse. They average about 2000 fans in the league. For | :28:02. | :28:08. | |
the standard they of playing it is phenomenal. It has been a rebirth. | :28:08. | :28:14. | |
Completely. And that core of loyal fans have stayed. They stuck with | :28:14. | :28:19. | |
it. This is the first season of promotion, it is a long way back, | :28:19. | :28:26. |