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on Saturday. Tonight the man who couldn't keep them up is here to

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tell us how he's going to get them up next season. Welcome to Late

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Blackpool promenade into the play- offs, but what next for Burnley?

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has been a good learning curve for the players. Just enjoy it, take

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each half as it comes. Win at half, that is all we can do.

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Lifting the lid, a former boss Gary Simpson on the realities of

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managing the League Two strugglers. I used to go around picking all of

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the players up. The loan a deal that left a lasting

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impression on Preston. Welcome to the programme. All the

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weekend's goals to come along with all of the main talking points

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concerning our football league clubs. Here to help me get through

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them all, Rochdale boss John Coleman and a former player with

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Burnley and coach at Preston, it's David Unsworth. Welcome, lads,

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thanks for coming. First though tonight, Saturday's

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Championship derby at Bloomfield Road where Blackpool, jockeying for

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the best possible play-off position, hosted a Burnley side long since

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out of top six contention but with one of the best away records in the

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Championship and aiming to equal a club record eleven wins on the road.

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Firmly in the middle on derby day, A head-to-head between these two

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teams, Burnley have the edge. They have won 36, Blackpool have won

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We would prefer a win. You can't get anywhere, but at least we could

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equal a club record. By Paul have the bit between their teeth. They

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will want to win today. Burnley like Blackpool so we don't mind.

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Your friends with them? We are. has your season gone as a fan?

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the best. We could have done better. Some away matches were pretty good,

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but could do better this year. Do you think come 5pm, you will

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have the play-off spot? Absolutely. Full of confidence. The few get to

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the play-offs, what can you expect? To passion, and I think we will go

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away again. Last time, that second game was unbelievable. We talk

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about it all ways. It was fantastic and hopefully we can do it again.

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Premier league of next year! Definitely.

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But what do the experts think? don't think it will be easy against

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Burnley. Frankly, and I think of this division, there is not much

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difference between top and bottom. The consistency matters more than

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anything else. Results away from home have been excellent. Only West

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Ham have more victories this season so it shows that we play well. They

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In your opinion, how will it go today? Form goes out the window

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when you get to local derbies. Burnley are looking to create a

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record for the number of wins away now so they will go for it. They

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have got lots to play for, unlike what people are saying. Blackpool,

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they have over achieved, fantastic position, and from where they are,

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it would not be a tragedy if they A missile is fire and Blackburn

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for Blackpool. Outside the box, it lays it up. The golly cannot keep

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it out. 34 blackball! -- the goalkeeper. This is his first touch,

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not of sight, and here is Tom Ince. Would have you made it this season?

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It has been a good learning curve for players in their first full

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season at this level. A lot of them are young lads trying to learn the

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lead. A lot of them will be a lot better for this season. We have

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certainly been inconsistent, away form has been good but the home

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form has been probably the root of our problems. We need to adjust

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back into next season. We have reasons to be positive. We will

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have a great chance. How do you approach the play-offs

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now? With a smile on your face, enjoy it, take each half as it

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comes. Try and win the half, that is all you can do it. If someone

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scores, put the ball out of the net and not worry about it too much.

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The great thing is no one thought we could do it before and probably

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people think the same thing, but we might know different. The squad of

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players this year is better than he's got that got promotion before,

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according to some critics. Can they get to the Premier League? We have

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accrued more pints to get into the play-offs them that team did, but I

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think it says on the record the bat team won every play-off game. What

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I settle for that was my no, I would not.

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Well, let's see where that leaves Blackpool in the table with just

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one fixture remaining. They're fourth going into Saturday's final

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games, they make the trip to Millwall. Burnley host Bristol City

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hoping for a top half finish. We have to predict a little bit who

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will be in the play-offs, West Ham all Southampton, can they do it?

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think they are a very dangerous punt, especially now. They are not

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conceding goals, they are scoring goals like we just saw. Whoever

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plays in the play-offs will be a very dangerous opponent. I would

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not be surprised if they went all the way. They have got the expense

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of the past. It was interesting that he said they would put the

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ball after the net with a smile on their face. He would you fancy if

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he were a Blackpool punt? I would like to see Blackpool do it. It is

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great Issie them. West Ham are the most to fear. A lot of expectation

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on them. The bigger teams... What about Burnley, a disappointing

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season? When Burley got promoted to the Premiership,... They have only

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got the money for the Premiership. There is no certainty that they

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will be able to use that. A lot of teams go up and down. Just because

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they want it, does not mean that they will get it guaranteed. David,

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you have seen him recently, what do you make of it? He has got some top

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players. The biggest thing from Burley's point of view going into

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next season is can they keep the top striker. He scored all the

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goals. The remit is he is off. that is the case, can may replace

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him and who with? Burnley need to be consistent all the way. They

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have done great away and this year, they have not done well at home so

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I would like to see a couple of senior players in there with the

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good of -- good young players they have.

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One other bit of business from the Championship, congratulations to

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Blackpool's Matt Phillips and Burnley's Jay Rodriguez, both voted

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into the Team of the Year at last night's PFA Awards.

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Well, let's not put it off any longer, Rochdale's relegation back

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to League Two. We'll hear from John in a moment, but with all the

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Rochdale's fate sealed at Chesterfield, despite the visitors

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Chesterfield, despite the visitors looking the better side and taking

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the lead with 17 minutes to go through Jean Louis Akpa Akpro. The

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home side created far less than Dale on the day but came back to

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win it with goals on 81 and 86 minutes, Scott Boden with the

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equaliser and Danny Whittaker with what would be the winner after

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Franck Moussa's header came back off the bar. Honours ended even in

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the League One north west derby with Preston coming from behind to

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deny Oldham. Robbie Simpson put the hosts ahead with twenty minutes

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left, nodding home a Filipe Morais cross from close range. But Chris

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Holroyd levelled ten minutes later, Danny Mayor's fine cross finding

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Tranmere earned a point against Hartlepool, despite playing the

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last 20 minutes with ten men. John Welsh put Rovers ahead, converting

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Lucas Akins' cross after good work in the build up from Zoumana

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Bakayogo. The visitors equalised in some style, Anthony Sweeney with a

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classy solo run that he ended with a cool finish past Fon Williams.

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That was pretty much the last action for the keeper who saw red

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just minutes later for tripping Ryan Noble.

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Finally it's congratulations to Bury, who not only confirmed their

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place in League One next year, they also moved back into the top half

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of the table with an excellent win at Notts County. David Worrall got

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them going in style before Mike Grella took centre stage. After

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Giles Coke's own goal had put county level, Grella first chipped

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Stuart Nelson to restore the Shakers advantage and then saw an

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effort deflected to make it 3-1. The one black mark on Bury's day

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was a red card for Andrai Jones, but even after the home side had

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made their man advantage pay with a second, Mark Carrington made the

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Well, if we take a brief glance at the top half of the League One

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table we see both Tranmere and Bury flying the north west flag. And

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flying the north west flag. And news from Prenton Park today, a new

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one year contract for manager Ronnie Moore after he pulled them

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clear of the bottom four. Talking of the relegation zone, there we

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see confirmation that Rochdale will be kicking off next term in League

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John, a difficult weekend for you. I definitely thought we would pull

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out of it. It has been a difficult week obviously, but the one thing I

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can possibly tried to draw comfort from his good friends of mine who

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last season, they got relegated, and his mother died on the same day,

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devastating for him. They managed to stay in the league. This season

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-- this season, he would have gone from strength to strength so you

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can draw inspiration from someone. Even if you are at your lowest,

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there is always next season and you have to go for that. Fans we have

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spoken to have said they have faith in you to turn it around, or what

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have you discovered since he had been at Rochdale? I have got good

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players but it needs an overhaul. We need the ethos. The team needs

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to reflect mind over football, my enthusiasm. I have only seen them

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in small doses at the moment and I have to change. What is wrong?

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There is not the normal banter about I had been Association -- are

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associated with. There is not the desire to win. It is there in

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patches, don't get me wrong, it is evident from some players, but I

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think because the team has struggled for most of the

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seasoned... I have played as big a part as anyone else in it. I would

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say it is not need. I had made some mistakes, and possibly I was a bit

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too loyal to some players. We looked really good initially and I

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thought we would pull away comfortably. Maybe I did not

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replace players opposition's quick Is that what you have to do? Can

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you turn the players around? Some will have to go, that is for sure.

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There will be an overhaul. Players will go. We will have to bring

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players in. The hard part is getting them out. But this year

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everybody will be looking at the same pool of players. With fleet

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would be going up you would think they would be the prime of money

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spenders in this area -- Fleetwood. I have to sell myself on the club

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to potential players. Rochdale had one of the most financial --

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successful financial seasons. Did you have any indication you would

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get that money? I don't think they are going to risk the long-term

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future of the club. Football is littered with paeans to speculate

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to accumulate money they haven't got. -- with teams he speculate. It

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is unfair, immoral. That is one of the things we were proud of at

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Accrington. How similar to the team now is your starting 11 good to be?

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Massively different. I want to stress the attitude shown in

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training and on the pitch will be different. What will it be like

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facing Accrington? My message is be careful what you wish for,

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sometimes wishes come true. They might not want to face me next year.

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An interesting game. A word about a match taking place

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They can't be many managers who have had to deal with as much as

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garrisons and at Macclesfield. Not only was he trying to compete on

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the pitch against bigger clubs and but it's he had to do with the

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death of his close friend and his captain at the age of just 29. In

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the wake of his sacking last month Stewart went to see him to reflect

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It is unprecedented we lost the boss, and then butchered. He was

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thrust into the job on 3rd March, 2010. A real air of devastation and

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bewilderment today, I am not sure I have met anybody in football as

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universally popular as Keith Alexander. In terms of the

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emotional stuff it was difficult, there are no two ways about it. But

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in saying that, give us a sense of we wanted to do it for him. In some

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ways he kept too busy, kept your mind on things. 10 months later

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with the League Two status secured this happened. Richard Butcher has

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died suddenly at the age of just 29. I had a lot of time for the kid. I

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found him. One night at Halifax I said I think we need to sign him.

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The guys call to my illegitimate son. He was my pet, if you like. He

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was one of the players, it was hard. It was more difficult to pick them

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up and get them back on the job of trying to keep us in the league

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again. That he managed despite having the smallest budget in the

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Football League. You're fighting Against the odds all the time.

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do people not understand about a job like this? There are no Scouts.

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There is me. You finish training, go to a game in the afternoon, go

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to a game at night, go around then on leaks. -- none at league matches.

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I used to take them to training, gains, everything. I don't know

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anybody who managed to do that, a taxi driver as well. Terrible luck

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with injuries and a slide down the table saw him sacked in March after

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two years in charge. It is hard. Somebody he showed loyalty,

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finished the job, I can understand why they did it. But I questing did

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because of the fact that I thought I was getting the maximum out of

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what we have got. I am constantly looking at the results all the time.

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I am just praying and hoping we can find the points necessary. I am

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proud of what I did. To least two people very dear to me and keep the

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club going and keep it together. The owners had backed the club

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tremendously but in my time they had not been a -- they had not been

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any inward investment in the club. It is difficult to see how any

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manager could have coped. A lot of adversity. It is hard. Sometimes

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you drive yourself on. We know from our experience, when you haven't

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got a great deal to play, you keep trying to spare yourself on. You

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try to get the players to respond. That is something he did really

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well. It is difficult to manage -- imagine going through all that then

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getting the sack. You can see the emotional stress. No manager should

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have to put up with that, great testament to himself he was able to

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turn up for work every day and produce a team that could do them

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proud. I have been to watch Macclesfield a few times. They have

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had a horrendous injuries, double figures really. What about this

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business of getting a team minibus? Is that the reality? It makes your

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eyes water some of the things we had to do. His pursue one, gives

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you the buzz. -- it spurs you on. They always got paid, but they

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sometimes got paid late, we had to try and make it, tell them the news

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as nicely as possible. The side carry left behind on of

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felling well since his departure. Here is the lead to action. -- lead

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injured a hamstring. Looking grim at the other end of the table for

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Macclesfield, rarely in the game at Bradford. They benefited from this

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finish. They were second best for most of the game but Ben Mills

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might have done better. The same player was involved in the only

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goal, James Hansen headed across goal. Males with the final touch

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past his own keeper, Macclesfield rock-bottom with two games to go.

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Acting -- Accrington will be pleased with their after being. The

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visitors went ahead on the half- hour. A deserved point of pop

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minutes to go. This long-range effort. Morecambe look like

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escaping with a point after coming from behind twice against Rotherham.

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The home side got the lead but they should have equalised after some

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poor defending. -- the Shrimps. The action wasn't over, with seconds

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remaining the match was one from 30 the table. At the bottom looking

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bleak for Macclesfield. Their host Burton on Saturday. Not only the

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best coverage of all weekend's games but news and update on your

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team every single day on your BBC Now, he's one of the most famous

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and successful footballers on the planet, and a Manchester United and

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England legend. He also married a Spice Girl, but before all that

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David Beckham was very much a Wannabe when he arrived at Preston

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North End seventeen years ago. He played just five times, but as Andy

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Johnson reports, it was an important period for Beckham, and a

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memorable one for the club. 93rd minute at Old Trafford.

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Beckham! He has done it. That goal took England to the 2002 World Cup.

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David Beckham's finest individual performance. Preston fans have

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enjoyed that years earlier when the man who was to become the

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footballing and fashion icon was sent to Deepdale on loan. He only

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played here for a month, but as you'd expect he made an impression

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on and off the pitch. He was sponsored by Armani, T-shirts,

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jumpers, pounds, jackets. Long before the days of Posh and

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appetising pants he went to Preston as part of his calling in the game

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but there were no airs and graces. He was humble, acted as if he was a

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19-year-old from our side, one of our young lads and he did not at

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fresh in any way, shape or form. He made coffee for the other lad,

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things like that. He scored two goals including this one on his

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debut. His ability shone through. As did his capacity for hard work.

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Every day after training he would be practising, honing his skills.

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Maybe any half-an-hour, but striking 50, 60 balls in that half-

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hour. Our last tour that was the norm. Clubs like Manchester United,

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top clubs, top players got their way by working hard. He was also

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keen to mix with the other plays. can recall one night, he drove over

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from Manchester, in his Armani Kia, went round all pubs in Preston.

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Ended up in town, drinking Coke all night but he mingled with everybody

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else. He when home because he wasn't drinking. North End had

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hoped to keep him for longer. After a month he was recalled to Old

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Trafford. We would have sold the ground to Keepin if we could

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because he was becoming better and better, -- to keep him. Everybody

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asked who the best play you have played against, nice to be able to

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drop his name and that you have played with him. The best players,

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sometimes the most humble. They did need to shout and scream, they just

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get on with it. -- they do not need to shout and scream. You thought he

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wouldn't be here tonight. He isn't. You presumably had him in your

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pocket, any special memories? Festival, how hard he worked. Great

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free-kicks, but he worked incredibly hard. One story, he gave

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a free-kick at Goodison, the last game of the season. Outside the box,

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on the ankle. I thought, we're safe here, just defend it, put it in the

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top corner. Is either a special player? Got to be careful what I

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say because we have Wheatley arguments about in in our car. --

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Wheatley arguments. -- weekly. We did rate him. We thought he was a

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great player. Can one player come in on loan, and transform the team?

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It is difficult on loan. We'll looking to bring in place to make a

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difference -- players. But they can have an effect on the players, give

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people believe they will get promoted. That is it tonight. My

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thanks to John and David. A reminder to all your friends who

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