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Well not since Graham Norton had Robert di Nero and Sly Stallone has

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BBC1 had a sofa line up likd this. This man's played 110 games for his

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country and was the fans' f`vourite at Wigan and Preston. This lan's in

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charge of a Burnley team on course for the Premier League. And tonight

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they're with me on Late Kick Off. Coming up in the next half hour

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Over the worst ` a look at Blackburn's rebuilding job tnder

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Bowyer. I come and watch thd games now, instead of watching thd

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protests. And from the Turf Moor sideline to the Late Kick Off sofa,

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the man behind Burnley's promotion push, Sean Dyche is here. And all

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the goals that matter to our 14 Football League teams. Well you ve

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seen our stellar line up of guests. Plenty to come from Sean Dyche and

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Kevin Kilbane throughout thd programme. Lads, thank you for

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coming in. Now, what makes ` good season? Is it promotion, avoiding

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relegation or simply stabilhty? Well, for Blackburn it's probably

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latter, given the chaotic events of recent years since the owners of the

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Venky's chicken brand, the Rao family took over in 2010. Btt while

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the play`offs may prove a step too far this season, things havd settled

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down under Gary Bowyer. Ian Haslam reports from Ewood Park. It's been a

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long, often miserable journdy for Blackburn fans this last few

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seasons. Relegation, hirings, firings, protests and gener`l gloom.

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But things are getting bettdr. When this programme came here around a

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year ago Blackburn were in turmoil and about to part company whth their

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third permanent manager of the season. Eventually they dechded that

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Gary Bowyer was the man to steady the ship and take things forward.

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And that David Dunne told L`te Kick Off recently is exactly what he s

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done. It's the off the pitch stuff as well that needed sorted `nd I

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think that's what he's done. Certainly at the football club there

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was that much chaos going on. That's the view of a senior player then.

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But what does everyone else think around Ewood Park. Where ard

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Blackburn Rovers at right now? I think the key word at the moment is

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stability. We're not free f`lling like we used to. We certainly got

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stability. It's no longer a farce. At least it's a good stable club

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now. Is stability enough for Blackburn fans in the long`term Not

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at all no. Which could be p`rt of problem. This remains a big club

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with big expectations, but with a big hangover from past mist`kes

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including multiple ill`fated signings. There's 19 players come in

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since the summer. More than 10 went out in January and the manager's

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been at pains to say that it will take him three or four transfer

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windows to do exactly what he wants to do. Seen by many Rovers fans as

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the man responsible for the post Premier League spending sprde,

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financial advisor Shebby Singh now lives abroad and now seems tp likely

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to return to rovers while the Rao family have kept a low profhle. Not

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much protesting or anything like that as there used to be. So it s

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nice to come and watch the games now instead of having to watch the

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protests. They continue to back the club, which is a huge thing, because

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whether the supporters like Venkys or not, if Venkys decide to pull the

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plug and say we want out, this club would be in massive financi`l

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turmoil. More than it is at the moment. And that is Blake and Webb's

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in there and hooked away. Kdeping a close eye on Rovers situation is

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this man, the worst war record holder, Derek Fazakerley. Wdll, you

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only have to look down the road at a name that I can't mention and the

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Blackburn public wouldn't lhke you to mention as well, for a tdam

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that's done exceptionally wdll this season and they have done it on a

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reasonable budget and I think that's something for all clubs to look at.

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The club have obviously got to cut their cloth accordingly, and it s

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those issues that have got to be sorted out in the next 12 to 18

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months for the club to make progress again. Like Rovers, Saturdax's

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visitors Leicester have worked to reduce a big wage bill. Likd Rovers,

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they have had numerous managers but have kept faith with this m`n. It is

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the model we've got to try `nd emulate a bit. I think Nigel

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Pearson's been there two and a half seasons, maybe longer. And ht takes

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time and it just shows you what you can achieve stability. Blackburn

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have turned off again! Delap's ball in. 1`0. Vardy scores for Ldicester.

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Conway to deliver. And it's in. The equaliser's come from Kilgallon

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It's a good result and we ddserve to be where we are. Played quite well.

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They're a strong team Leicester Promising for the future. You're

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resigned to being a Championship club again next season? Yes. Then

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they will build on it and spend some money and hopefully do it ndxt year.

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Blackburn fans if not ecstatic, certainly seem happy with the

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situation, rather than a ye`r ago Kevin. What kind of job has Gary

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Bowyer done there? Well, he's certainly settled the club down I

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think from the outside lookhng in it did seem chaotic. Since thex sacked

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Sam Allardyce, there is a lot of managers have that come and gone,

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but Gary Bowyer's come in. He's known the club, he's been whth the

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youth team and the Academy side and he stepped up. But as David Dunne

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said, he has sorted one or two issues that they have had off the

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field as well and that was probably the most important things that they

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have got a a bit more dialogue between the owners and the lanager.

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Nine points off the play`offs, but with a game in hand, is it possible?

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It seems to be written off this season. You never know what can

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happen. There is still a lot of points to play for. But it light

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just be a little step too f`r for them this season. But they have

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still got quality in that spuad that could kick on and do it. Se`n you

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played Rovers recently. Did you see the makings of a promotion side

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there? Well they have invested quite heavily actually again, but not in

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the grand scheme of what thdy have invested previously. But thdy have

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invested in a different style of players. They have brought hn some

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younger players and Gary's `lmost made a mark of that. So I think

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they're a team going through probably a settling period, but also

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a growth period. You can sed signs that that team will develop, as long

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as they keep it together and the players will improve with

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experience. I think Gary will be happy with what's gone on this

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season. It is his first chance at this. There is things he has had to

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clean up a little bit and hd has had to adapt and brought his own group

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together. Over all he will be pleased. Thank you. While Rovers are

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tenth in the table the north`west has interest above and below them.

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We will have a look at Burnley's weekend win a little bit later. But

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with the rest of the Championship action, here is Howard Booth.

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It's nine wins from ten gamds now for Wigan, who came from behind to

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beat Watford. The Hornets took the lead through McGugan, but that just

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stung the home side into action and they were level four minutes later

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when Beausejour followed up after the initial effort was saved by the

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keeper. The points were sealed on the hour when Waghorn turned in a

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scuffed shot. The Latices vhsit QPR on Tuesday and then Bolton next

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Saturday. Wanderers showed real real resolve to earn a point at Xeovil

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who led 2`0 at the break. Own goals from Miller and Dawson. Jutkiewicz

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got them back into the game in the second half. But it looked like all

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hope was lost when Baptiste conceded a penalty and was sent off. But

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Miller's spot kick hit the post and Bolton made the most of the miss.

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Ten yards inside the Yeovil half of the field. Clipped to the edge of

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the penalty area and Zak Knhght has headed in the equaliser! Brhlliantly

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placed free kick. It's two home wins out of two now for Blackpool who had

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Ricardo fuller to thank for all three points at home to

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Huddersfield. His early goal was the only one of a poor game, although

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Wells did have an effort ruled out for Town. It wasn't pretty `t

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Bloomfield Road but at least it s effective. I have got to a stage now

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where we have just got to grind out results. I made that decision a

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couple of weeks ago and now that's two home wins. It's not gre`t to

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watch on the eye, but at thd end of the day it's three points on the

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board and hopefully we can get a few more. Well here's what all that s

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done to the table. We'll talk Burnley with Sean shortly, but

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Wigan's play`off place at ldast looks assured.

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Burnley with Sean shortly, but Wigan's play`off place at They have

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got a huge game at QPR tomorrow We can see the value of those three

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points for Blackpool. Bolton right there with them, nine points above

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the bottom three. Kevin let's focus on Wigan. What a run they h`ve been

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on. Since Uwe Rosler has cole in he has changed them around, got them

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more organised and let the players go out and express themselvds. I

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have been impressed with hil and none more so than that cup win

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against Manchester City the other week. I think they're on a run of

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nine wins in ten games. So he can be very pleased with what he's done. I

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think they're in the play offs. If they stay where they are, I think

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they will go up. I don't want to frighten the man sat next to you,

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but everyone says they still could be in with a shout of autom`tic I

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think it's probably a stretch too far. If they can continue that run,

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who knows. Of course Burnlex in the driving seat now. And what do you

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think make of Uwe Rosler? Hd is a bit like you. He is a young manager

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being talked about by a lot of people. Obviously I'm a lot more

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handsome than he is! I described him the other week as the biggest

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non`surprise of the season. He is a good manager, he's went in there, he

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has earned his spurs at Brentford. He had taken over a strong group.

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Are they are the strongest squad in the league. They are amongst them.

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You could argue on paper QPR. But with the depth of squad there and I

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must make it clear it's not doing Uwe down, because I agree there is a

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good feel about the group, there is a clearer organisation. But the

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quality they have, the depth they have within the squad it is not a

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major shock that they were going to put a run together. It cert`inly

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wasn't a shock to me to see them put a run together. And briefly Kevin,

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they have got this semi fin`l against Arsenal. Away, that's a big

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game for them. Again could that be a distraction? I am not sure. I think

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that is something the club can look forward to after last May bdating

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Manchester City. I was at that Cup Final, it was a wonderful occasion.

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Thank you. Well you might h`ve noticed that we just addressed the

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Championship without mentioning our best performing team, Burnldy. They

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sit second in the table, ten points clear of the play`off places. This

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is the man who is leading the charge. But for those not too

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familiar with the Clarets m`nager, here is all you need to know. Sean

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Mark Dyche was born in Kettdring in 1971. After being released by

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Nottingham Forest he made hhs professional debut for Chesterfield,

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captaining the side and scoring a penalty in an FA Cup semi fhnal

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against Middlesbrough. Wherd Sean Dyche signs, promotion follows.

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Chesterfield, Bristol City, Millwall and Northampton all moved up a

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division with the sceptre b`ck in the side. Three years ago hd became

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the manager of Watford, despite leading them to their highest

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Championship in four seasons, he was sacked by the new owners. So he

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arrived at Burnley, manager, motivator, telephonist. Gre`t signs

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of it again today. That's a fine if someone's phone is riinging. That is

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a fine. Mr Richardson! Hello! Yeah, good, thanks, it's Sean Dyche,

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manager of Burnley, who's that? Fondly referred to as the Ghnger

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Mourinho, Sean Dyche is a popular man around Turf Moor. Oh, hd's a

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revelation he's phenomenal. Faultless, really really fatltless.

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He's really good and without him we wouldn't be anywhere near the

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automatic positions. Wise words indeed there. That was like This Is

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Your Life, isn't it and there was some bouffant at the start of that.

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You can see why I shaved it off can't you? We can look forw`rd to

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the next nine games, but looking back to the weekend, we are going to

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show the goals. Putting aside the fact the pitch was like somdthing

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off Emmerdale, what did you make of it a great start for Ashley Barnes.

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Yes, he's worked very hard. He's came into the group. I made it clear

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not just to support, but to challenge. It's fair to say an

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injury's given him his chance. But he's worked ever so hard. Good

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finish. As you suggest, we played really well on a truly awful pitch.

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Sam Vokes pops up with a penalty. We have had seven not given. Wd were

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happy to get one and he slots it in and Michael Kightly with a nice

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finish to the game. But a good bit of skill and trickery to get in

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there and score a goal. Burnley fans now are no longer shocked when they

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see a result like that after the way the team have played this sdason.

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But a lot of people comment`ting about Burnley say they're strprised.

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Have you been surprised by what you have achieved? Well surprisdd by the

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fact that we are sitting whdre we are with the points in the bag,

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because we know how tough the division is. We know there `re

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certain challenges we had at the start of season, financial

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challenges, squad size et cdtera, but I'm not surprised by thd

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competitive nature of the group We work with quite a lot of group last

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year and then we changed sole faces in the summer. We brought in some

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real good characters, but also some real good quality players I feel. So

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once the group's galvanised and we worked on the things that wd think

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are appropriate and important, the fitness levels, the organis`tion,

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the tactical organisation and the values that we hope to work to as

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group and you add in the skhll level and at minimum you're competitive.

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And we think we have taken that competitive edge further. How do you

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assess the character of somdbody before you bring them on

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Chance, availability. Dave Jones had a number of promises, idle promises.

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We got him in straightaway. Tom Eaton is one of his mates. He said

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that nothing had come through for him, I said that we should get him

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in. What if he he had come in and not

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fitted in with your ethos? I tried to take Tom to Watford. I

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had a real feeling about it. I met him for dinner, and then I changed

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changed clubs. But I always thought that I would go for him agahn. When

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the chance arose, I did. People resisted it, because he had been

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relegated. I thought that whth the good framework that we had, we could

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bring him to the fore. I thhnk he is a very good keeper, he will be in

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another season. Can I ask you a yes no question. Burnley up? Yes. I have

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got to say, between two big Burnley men now, but the way that you have

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played this season, it is a testament to the team. The thing

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that you are always saying hs how hard you're working. What do you do

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to keep the squad fresh? Wh`t do you do day`to`day?

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Like anyone, I've found the support around me. I think, my assistant and

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my coach, you get to go through they have been fantastic. Whth the

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physiotherapy, and we have got great interns. We have made the players

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aware that we are willing to give up everything we can. We have got good

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dietary support, our chef is fantastic. He is open`minded to good

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ideas. We do our version of it, we think we do it well. We bal`nce it

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with days off. Arsene Wenger was questioned about giving plaxers a

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day off, I could not believd it Do you say that you have to stay in

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the house? No, there is a trust between what we

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do as a professional unit. H make them aware that I absolutelx trust

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them. It is for them to dechde if they let that trust down. I think

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they trust what I do. I think the players probablx

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appreciate that more, because if they get that trust from thd

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managers, it is extra responsibility to make sure that they are right for

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training. If you are asking them to ghve

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everything, which we are, you need to not only be physically rdsted,

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but mentally rested. Not lo`ds of days off, but sometimes the players

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get worn out. Sometimes I s`y that they should shut down and sde the

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kids, then they come in fresh. You played for a number of years like I

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did. That freshness is key. We are running out of time. You have

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to trust them not to get carried away. How do you stop yoursdlf

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looking ahead for the next nine games and asking what might be?

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Because I believe in what I suggest. It is one game at ` time. I

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am not naive enough to think that you can plan so far in advance when

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I'm working with a small group. You have to make sure that the group is

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ready and organised. I have stuck with that and I believe it.

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One question that Burnley f`ns will want me to ask. Trippier back by the

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end of the season? Yes, looking good at the molent We

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are really pleased with the news on both of them. When Owen Coyle was at

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Burnley, he was immortalised. You aware that you have been

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immortalised? You are aware of the Lego Movie.

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He is even in a Burnley suit. Look at this. There you are.

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To be honest, the head shapd is definitely similar. I am not sure

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about the bit sticking out of the top. Look at the facial expression.

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Suddenly Burnley go 1`0 down. An own goal. A grimace. Not been too many

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of those. You can have that. Thank yot. I

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think we got the idea from Ben Foster.

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Hopefully an automatic promotion for the championship and maybe the same

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from League Two. Here is a round`up about Rochdale.

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Rochdale roll on after a thhrd successive win 2`0 at Wycombe. Jamie

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Allen is already on the rad`r with several top teams and this goal will

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surely attract even more. H`ving set up Allan's strike, Peter Vincenti

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turned scorer, stealing a point with 15 minutes to go, after a scramble.

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We have the best chance in the first half. It is safe for the

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opposition's keeper. But I'l more than happy going to half`tile with a

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clean sheet. It gives us solething to build on and on over the players

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that we have, it will creatd opportunities. We are still toe to

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toe with them in the first half You have to fight for the opportunity to

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get the ball in play. I feel that is what we did.

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A day to forget for Fleetwood. Heavy defeat by Exeter summed up by John

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Parkin's own goal to put thdm behind and an error from the goalkdeper to

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round off another miserable day in Devon.

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Morecambe recovered well from Tuesday's warning to take a point at

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home against improving Northampton. It went from the ridiculous to the

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sublime. Andy Wright's own goal putting them behind before `

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brilliant equaliser. Stanlex's script followed a similar p`ttern.

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They fell behind to Plymouth, when Rueben Reid scored. There w`s also a

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point after the break. Therd was a header that really was towering

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Bury don't lose many matches, but worryingly for the Shakers, they are

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not winning many either. Thhs was their fourth draw in five g`mes and

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came after they took the le`d after a goal from Chris Hussey. Btt as is

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often the case, they could not hold on. Andy Proctor's late header

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nearly won it for a very side badly needing a break.

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Well, if we have a look at the top of the table, we will see jtst how

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well things are going. Rochdale top of the pile. That was a costly

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defeat. Bury really need to be turning draws into wins. As we were

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just hearing, Stanley are couple of points better off. There is no room

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for complacency. There is far too much north`western

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involvement in the battle for relegation in League One. Wd will

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speak about promotion chasing Preston first. This was a

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disappointing defeat for Prdston, one which ends their unbeatdn run at

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12. Michael Smith's penalty was the

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difference between the sides. He converted after Neil Kilkenny. North

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End improved after the introduction of Kevin Davies, but it was not

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Preston's day. Two big wins, the bottom Crewe and Oldham. Thdy won

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their first match in seven, thanks to this goal against Crawlex.

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Frustration that they failed to take any of the other chances. Crewe won

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for the first time in six g`mes Their win at Gillingham described by

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the radio. It could go anywhere. 1`0! Hn the

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penalty area, it goes wide. Header across. Right side, and a goal! What

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a goal. A terrific goal. He is running to the byline, what

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will he do? Into the penaltx area. Goal! He is doing the dance. It s a

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class goal! The flip side of those victories for

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Alex and Oldham is that thex leave Tranmere in even more trouble. They

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were three down before Jason Koumas gave them ultimately futile hope of

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salvaging a point. There was just one point now between them `nd the

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bottom four. We sat with the radio commentator

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and calmed him down. After Saturday's defeat at Swindon, it

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looks like the action is for Preston. It will go right up to the

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final day of the season. The main reason for the success of

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our quiz is the support of the clubs. A genuine thank you to all of

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them for taking part. But there is one team that always wants to go

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further. Last year, Blackpool became the first club to pitch man`ger

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against Assistant Manager, `nd this time is no difference. Here is the

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quiz, Seasiders style. Scousers versus Scots.

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What is the capital city of Canada? Oh, you can't have that one. He s

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been there. I know.

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Which national honour with Barry Ferguson awarded in 2006? MBE.

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Which Oscar Wilde quotes dods Barry Ferguson have tattooed on hhs arm?

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Oh. No, I think that's right. No. I would have guessed it. It's

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something to do with saints. Every saint has a future?

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Every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.

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How many animals did Moses take onto the Ark?

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How many? Two of each. There you go. Name the misshng

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member of take that? Gary B`rlow, Robbie Williams, Mark Owen, Howard

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Donald and... Jason orange. A few demons coming out here.

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Spell definitely. Go on. D`E`F`I`N`I`T`L`Y. LX. You

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got it wrong. Is that right? It is not an E.

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Is that an A? Go on then, you spell it. Is it D`E`F`I`T`N`T`L`E`Y? Oh,

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it's not? D`E`F`I`N`N`I`T`L`Y. Come on!

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Do you know what, that was like a nightmare edition of University

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Challenge, wasn't it. So wh`t would you think about getting your players

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involved in that? I think they are travelling together. Kevin, you need

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a time like that, it breaks up the week. Yes, I know way few of those

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lads. It is nice to see thel. Tuesday night is just like `

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Saturday afternoon. In the Championship Bolton host Bl`ckpool

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while QPR`Wigan is the big one. In League One, Crewe have a proper six

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pointer against relegation rivals Notts County while North End will

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hope to get one over on forler boss Darren Ferguson when they t`ke on

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his Peterborough, the side directly below them in the table. In League

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Two, Rochdale can do themselves and Bury and Stanley a favour bx beating

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lowly Portsmouth. Fleetwood are also at home to a

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stuggler and will hopefully get back on track against Bristol Rovers

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You can hear all about this on your local BBC Radio station.

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Doncaster at home, a potenthal split? We take every game sdriously.

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I do not think that you can afford not to. We have outstanding form,

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and you have to deliver. We have been ready all season. Therd is no

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reason why we should not be. You believe that you have not looked

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towards that game at all? I know it is a fact. So Wednesday morning you

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consider? We have a meeting, we already have information. Btt that

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will kick in when we start looking at the weekend.

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And Kevin, then QPR, that is a big game. Yes, it is a big opportunity.

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It will be a test of who thdy could play against. Do you think that

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Wigan will fancy QPR? It is the same in the league from top to bottom.

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You cannot take Doncaster lhkely. Whoever they play against, ht is

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difficult. I think it would suit Wigan, it is the kind of opdn game

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that they like to play. That is it for tonight. Thank you to

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Sean and Kevin. I will see xou tomorrow night. We are back next

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Monday at the same time, 11:20pm. From all of us in the studio, this

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night. `` good night.

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