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Is it goodbye for her at the French Foreign Legion?

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Can the Millers new manager won over his doubters? Of Leeds fans at

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the Pigeon Detectives take on head- to-head.

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With me tonight. The current Huddersfield and former Leeds

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United manager, Simon Grayson. And a man we know well from Bradford

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and Sheffield United, now the Motherwell manager, Stuart McCall.

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It's been coming, and on Saturday Doncaster's relegation from the

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Championship was confirmed. For most of the season, the club have

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tried a radical strategy of bringing in foreign loan players,

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such as El-Hadji Diouf and Freddie Piquionne. So does going down mean

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the Willie McKay experiment has failed? Paul Barnes reports.

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They refereed's final whistle on Saturday signal the end of

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Doncaster Rovers's four-year stay in the championship and all but

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included one of the more turbulent campaigns in the club's recent

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history. Chairman John Ryan sacked Shaun Briscoe as manager and

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replace them with Dean Saunders. Not long after the embarked on a

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unique transfer experiment with the agent Willie McKay bringing a host

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of foreign players into the club on short-term contracts. Much

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anticipation at the time but the move has failed with Doncaster

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destined for Rock -- League 1. Now that their season is effectively

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over, how do supporters look back at the neat as first tragedy?

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have to give them credit for trying something a bit different. It has

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not been working for a while. I was a cynic from the start but a better

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shot. El-Hadji Diouf and others - they just came for a ride. I am

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just disappointed it has not worked. It was worth a try. I know Willie

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McKay has a bad name but so what? He worked hard for the club. At the

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end of the day, they have tried it. It may not have worked but they

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have to try it. El-Hadji Diouf especially, what a star. I was not

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personally happy with the idea but that is how the club has had to try

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to cope. I think it has been hard to

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integrate a lot of the foreign players into the set up. They have

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been so used to a certain regime and a certain way of working. To

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change that dynamic, it has taken a lot of adjustment and the results

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speak for themselves. With opinion divided amongst the

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support, I pitied too early Mackay that the experiment has not had the

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desired effect. The club have been relegated from the League, so in

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many respects that will be seen as Ophelia. Where do you think it has

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gone wrong for the club this season? For something to go wrong,

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it had to be righted some time. When I arrived, there was not a lot

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right with the clock. John thought something had to be done and called

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me and asked me to help. Nobody has tried harder than myself. I love

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going to the way games and his supporters were brilliant. The

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overall be up -- over opinion was thanks to try to help with

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different things but we have been relegated and nobody is more upset

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than myself. Most people think I parachuted in from somewhere else

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and there is a lot of negative publicity for football agents and I

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do not -- cannot do anything about that. Eilis 50 minutes away from

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the stadium and my children are in the academy. I have loved being a

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part of Doncaster Rovers and nobody is more sorry than myself.

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chairman has admitted it was a last throw of the dice but a risk worth

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taking. Dean Saunders had a rotten hand but when we felt he could not

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bring the players in, and he brought some great players in -

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players for free and for no money. Players like El-Hadji Diouf who

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scored six to seven goals. At least we give it a go. We tried a quick

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fix because we were in trouble. We got one point from seven games and

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one from 20 games. We tried to inject some life into the team and

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only three weeks ago what was going great. Ultimately, at the ball

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transferred experiment did not quite make the cut and defeat at

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home to Portsmouth consigns them to League 1 football next season. You

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cannot blame them for a lack of imagination. As for which players

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will be playing here next season, that is anyone's guess.

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That's the first problem of the close season. There are almost

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starting from scratch now. There will be a lot of players leaving?

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That can be of benefit that you want a fresh start. The sun does

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what his own players and pulls up if the experiment worked, people

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think it was a great way to run a business. It was difficult for don

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caster because they had to stay in the championship. Everyone is

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disappointed it has not work but they will have their own ideas now.

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The chairman has come out and say it they will not be trying it again

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another division down. What are your feelings on it? I am surprised

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so many supporters were happy with it. They got to the stage where

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they had to try something, they did not won 20 games and a role. If

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you're at Doncaster player and you have been there for years, and you

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get a lot of foreign players coming in and you know they will only be

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there for a short period, do they have the same team spirit? Probably

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not. You are familiar with own signings from Leeds. Managing them

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brings its own problems? Ideally, everyone wants a permanent signing

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from day one but it is not always feasible. As Stuart McCall

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mentioned, these players come in and unsettle the changing rooms.

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They may have different attitudes or whatever. It is not easy to do

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that. It was something I have tried to do but is unfortunately not

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worked. There's only one place where BBC

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Radio Sheffield's Paul Walker can start his roundup. Rovers fans,

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make the cocoa now. Doncaster fans already knew they

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were all but relegated but the manner of their defeat will leave a

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Their fabulous star began to unravel before the hour. Definitely

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a foul on David Kitson but only outside the box. To make matters

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worse, the defender received his marching orders. Soon after, the

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game was level. Another penalty and another cheeky effort. The drama

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kept on coming. James Coburn Je fired Rovers back into the lead.

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The referee made his biggest howler of the day. He failed to spot

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Kitson using both hands to score. Even Maradona was more subtle. A

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bad day all round for relegated Doncaster Rovers.

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Barnsley still need one more win to guarantee Championships safety.

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They read still seven points clear of danger despite defeat at Cardiff.

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Hull City's slim hopes of promotion suffered what is presumably a

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terminal blow. They took the lead in the fourth minute but poor

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defending allowed an equaliser soon after. Although this red card get

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Hull a numerical advantage, they could not capitalise. Another

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season in the championship beckons. Also won the championship next term

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will be Leeds United. On Saturday, they fell behind to Peterborough.

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The second half was much more comfortable. Another goalkeeping

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blunder let in a school full stop at the Scotsman's second put Leeds

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after win control. A comfortable Only a mathematical possibility for

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Hull and leads to reach promotion. I am sure you will have heard the

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Doncaster chairman's grapes about the referee. It is not ultimately

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why they went down but he had a plate. It you can understand it a

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lot of decisions referees get wrong, it happens so quickly, but this is

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a slam dunk in basketball. That is not the reason Doncaster have gone

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down. Even at the highest level, used other semi-final yesterday,

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they're getting it wrong at the moment. I do feel for them but

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there are more and more mistakes. Leeds United, first home win under

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Neil Warnock. You New Delhi Peyton would get goals eventually. He is a

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great lad and they brought him to the club to get goals because he

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got them first London. He had a few injuries early on and has forced

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his way and again full stop he has been given the opportunity at the

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weekend. He is a good goalscorer and it may just have been the UN

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and the confidence he needs to get a few more goals before the end of

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the season. We will speaks in about that but as to Leeds United, where

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two and a half months and she left the club. What are your thoughts?

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It is part and parcel of football that you get sacked and move on. I

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was disappointed at the time because we do three points of the

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play-offs. A few things if I have come out since I have left the club

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I was not too pleased about because I have kept my silence and dignity.

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It is a fantastic football club and they will never regret taking that

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decision. We have left the club and a far better state than when we

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walked in. There has been a bit of flak in your direction. Looking

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back, would you have done some things differently? Every manager

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would do things differently if given things -- given the

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opportunity. We finished 7th the previous year and just missed out

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on the play-offs. That summer came along and he wanted to invest in

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players to take us to the next level but we did not manage to do

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that. Results dictate what happened and that is part and parcel of

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football, you move on. I know you have to be careful with what you

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say, but would you have liked to have a bit more money? Every

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manager would. When you get a certain position, you would like to

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think you can help move the club to the next level. Southampton and

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Reading will probably go up and be spared money over the summer. These

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were players we looked to sign over the summer but they went elsewhere.

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There is a big expectancy at Leeds and sometimes the expectancy levels

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are not matched elsewhere. Money, I tell you, that of all evil.

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The rivalry cutting a city in two. Two detectives go head-to-head.

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Right, straight back to the action. Huddersfield may be out of the race

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for second place, but the cut throat rivalry in the Steel City

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continues. Here's Neil Morrow with what appears to be a decisive twist.

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The Isles wet behind early on. Wednesday levelled the game after

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the break. They pressed for an equaliser but it never came. Dave

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Jones is still unbeaten and it is looking like play-off for the Owls.

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Wednesday's bread and like rivals picked up maximum points. The

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Blades were unequal terms before the break. United went in front

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with a shot from 20 yards. United are now in the promotion box.

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Huddersfield's hopes of a top to finish ended over the Easter period.

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The game's only goal from Chris Robertson at the difference between

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the sides. Chesterfield almost certainly be

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relegated but the second one on the bounce means the fat lady has yet

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to sing. Hartlepool went ahead in the first half but Danny Whitaker

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levelled the game. Recovery was complete with this header to keep

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Chesterfield's than survival hopes alive for another week.

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Scunthorpe moved clear of them drop zone but they were well beaten by

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MK Dons. Goals up in the first half their. Two more wins will do it.

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Down ended depths, Scunthorpe could finish in the top half and

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Chesterfield will not go down without a fight. But even a win

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against Rochdale next Saturday may Stuart, Sheffield United are flying.

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And I am delighted for them. It is a tremendous club. They have a

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couple of tricky games to go. But they have won six games on the

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bounce and have been absolutely magic. If they could just get to

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the finishing line, which I am sure they will.

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We will finish off Sheffield United's goals but Chesterfield

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have won two in a row. However even if they win the next three it is

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still unlikely they will stay up. It is too little, too late. They

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have performed OK but just not got the results. When you down at the

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bottom that is the way things tend to go against you. If they go down

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they will hope to bounce back up. Huddersfield are not flying but,

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primed for a real push? We are trying to create a false

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sense of security for everybody else! The bet is working!

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We're just making bad mistakes. In the first half we played very well

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and should have been out of sight but they got the goal then we went

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to sleep a little bit. We just want to make sure the get to the play-

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offs this weekend and then after that we hope everybody can get

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focused on what they need to do. Anything can happen. Doesn't matter

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where you finish, after, 4th, 5th, six, will be one team goes up. --

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only one team. And you have a nice day coming up

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on Sunday? Yes a charity game for the Bobby

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Robson Foundation. I will take a team full of ex-players.

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Chris Waddle... He still plays a little bit.

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Yes. Hopefully it will be back good day.

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Stuart a you cannot play - you have a important matters with Celtic.

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Now, this is a bit of Baku. The pigeon detectives. -- bit of a coup.

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I am a mat, the singer. I am Dave, the bassist.

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There March along together was the B-side of which Leeds United

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single? It was a Leeds United.

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How many goals are there on a bowling ball?

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What here he did Leeds United 1 the Football League title?

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1992. What is the capital of Romania?

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Bucharest. Name the team that brought Stuart

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support? -- Rod Stewart.

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Celtic. It victory for detective Dave.

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Simon, you are a fan? Yes, they are big Leeds fans and I

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have got to know them well over the last few years.

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He admits he is not the special one but he is certainly a controversial

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one. Stephen Evans took over at Rotherham United last week. He

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knows that his reputation goes before him. Does his appointment

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mean that the club has an you mean He admitted conspiracy to defraud

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the Inland Revenue of more than �320,000. But who is the real Steve

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Evans? Most importantly he is the new Rotherham United manager after

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the chairman has signed a sizable check to prise the Scotsman from

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League Two rivals, Crawley Town. His record cannot be questioned but

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his appointment was far from an easy option. If that is because he

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comes with a chequered history of touchline bans and bus stops and a

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conviction for tax fraud. But the man the chair man describes as the

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man of the moment is tipped to win over the more sceptical members of

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the support. I have taken on board the

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accusations made against him in the past but it is many years ago and

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by unsatisfied now. He has been with Crawley Town for four hears.

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He is a guide that can give us what we haven't had in the past. I feel

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very confident about that. In September time when we're up there

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at the top of the lead I am sure some of the supporters will change

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their mind and think, this guy knows what we are all about.

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The chairman told me that he knew I had made a mistake around a decade

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ago and paid the price. And it is only right that the supporters have

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a? Against it. But that number of correspondences to Crawley Town

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when I left was a testament to the 25 months of incredible success.

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He has been handed a larger budget than at his previous club.

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The ambition of the chair man, the new stadium, the fan base, the

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potential fan-base, and as I said to the press, the club is going

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places. There are fantastic facilities that would grace any

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division in the country and it will be full of Rotherham United fans.

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All of that, and it is a tremendous opportunity we have been given. It

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is even better when you don't apply! It is nice when the chair

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man phones your club and is willing to pay a sum of money for you as a

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manager. Not too many managers move for money these days.

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Their next game is against promotion chasing Shrewsbury. He

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has made a typically honest assessment of the clock's season to

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date. As the squad under-achieve Yes, I think they have under-

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achieved. Not all of them, there have been some big performances

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from a number of the players but our job in the next month is to

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assess whether the under-achievers can achieve. If they can, we will

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take in four with us during what Rotherham got off to a perfect

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start after just three minutes when they were headed in front. It was a

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lead that looked to have lasted until the break. But on the stroke

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of half-time the leveller was scored. And just three minutes

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after the restart the hosts went in front. Rotherham pressed for an

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equaliser. But Shrewsbury confirmed their rise with this second goal

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for Cornell. Lingering hopes of the play-offs are probably over.

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We showed character and we did not buckle. We missed a number of

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chances, whereas they didn't. But there is a lot to build on. Lots to

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get excited about. But we can talk about that come the end of the

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season. He has a large job on his hands at

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Rotherham but you get the feeling he is going to enjoy it and the

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rest of the leak might not. He is certainly a character. But

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this appointment caught me on the hop. Where you surprise?

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I was. He had done such a good job at Crawley Town. They were facing

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promotion. Something obviously enticed him to go to Rotherham. A

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new stadium, the chairman giving him money. So watch out for them

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next year, he would not have taken the job if he did not think he

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could take them up. Interesting to say that he did not

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apply. That does not happen often in football. He has never really

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been given much credit throughout the game.

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But obviously the chair man saw something in him. I only faced him

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once with Sheffield United. The passion from both he and Neil warm-

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up was incredible. When you look at some of the big names that applied,

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for him to get it without applying is incredible. Obviously the

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chairman sees something in him. As Simon said, look out for them next

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season. They are a double act on the

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touchline. What happens to you guys? Use are all very nice but

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when you get on the touchline U- turn into raving lunatics.

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You can really do much about it. It is because you're passionate and

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due care about it. If it is me against Stuart I want to beat him,

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and vice versa, isn't it? Brad ford also had a win at

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Northampton. That should do it for them, shouldn't it?

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Yes, but with the standard of player they have had this season

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they have under-achieved, no doubt about it. But with the James Hanson

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up front, if he stays, then they can go on to do good things. But it

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has been a disappointing campaign. No doubt. Thankfully now they have

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enough points to began focusing on the next season and hopefully

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improve on what has been a performance they would not like,

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performance they would not like, that is for sure.

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A quick look at the table. I would not rule Rotherham out just yet.

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But look at what a win against Shrewsbury would have done for them.

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Bradford City, it is quite simply a case of getting ready for next

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We were talking their about Bradford, you don't have plans to

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nab any of them north of the border?

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No, I am pleased with who I already have. They have done exceedingly

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well. While looking forward to seeing them at Bradford next season

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and good luck to them. A quick worked on Motherwell, what

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are your thoughts on the season? Clinching third would be a great

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achievement and with Rangers' problems would give us a Champions

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League place. But still lots of work to be done.

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Fingers crossed that Motherwell do the job for Stuart. A little bit of

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the job for Stuart. A little bit of Yorkshire north of the border. Here

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are the championship fixtures. All of those games will be featured on

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of those games will be featured on your local BBC radio station where

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you always get the best commentary and coverage of your club. Keep in

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