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This week we're in South Wales to visit Swansea City,

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currently enjoying a resurgence under new boss Paul Clement

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after a turbulent start to the season.

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Coming up, we'll be behind the scenes with the Swans,

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as they face a daunting trip to Clement's former club,

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Also, comedian and jazz enthusiast Charlie Baker

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puts a smooth spin on some terrace favourites.

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But first, Swansea aren't the only ones experiencing an upturn

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Many predicted Jose Mourinho's arrival at Manchester United

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would see the curtain come down on Juan Mata's time at Old Trafford,

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but the Spaniard has been an integral part

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Gary Lineker travelled north to meet him.

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Buenas tardes! All footballers are the same, always in galleries and

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places like this(!) Mata for Manchester United... I love to be in

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England, I love English football, and I love, since I came to

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Manchester, the way they treat me. When you arrive to Old Trafford,

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where a lot of great games, great players, have played there, when you

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see Alex Ferguson's stand, Sir Bobby Charlton's stand, you know you are

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in one of the places for football in the history of football. So I

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imagined myself winning the Premier League or the Champions League with

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this club, and it would be incredible. Hopefully, we can bring

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the club back. Are the signs there, do you feel? Do you think Jose is

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getting it right? Well, I think he understands what this club means,

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and that is very important, to come here and understand the history of

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the club, more or less the philosophy and the style of football

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that the fans and this club is used to.

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Have you always been interested in art? Yes and no. I am interested in

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different things, not just that, something that is not just football.

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I find it good, to refresh, reset. When you came to English football,

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was that a gamble, did you think? Because Spanish football is very

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different to English football. It was a little bit of a gamble,

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because, obviously, when you come doing this gospel, people say you

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need to be physically strong,, it is very physical, which is true. --

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when you come to English football. Were you worried that it might not

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suit your style of football? No, I always believed, as long as you can

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play good football, you can play good football anywhere. Mata scores

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are on his debut! Your Chelsea career, different cultures, then

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Jose Mourinho comes in, of course, and after a while, it didn't work

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out, why is that? Sometimes in life, and in football as well, change

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comes, and you have to embrace it. When Jose came, I was not playing a

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lot, I had a chance to go to another big club, and it was a good offer

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for Chelsea as well. Did you fall out with him at all? No. I can't

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imagine you falling out with anyone. Well, I can! But no, I think it was

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football, the style or something like this. But we never had any

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personal problem or anything like this. We are working together now,

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it is fine. So what about whatever you are doing that particular day

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when Jose is announced as the new manager of Manchester United, your

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initial thoughts? I was on holiday, and it was like, OK, let's embrace

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it, let's go for it, train as I always train, well, things are going

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good, I am enjoying my football, playing a lot, the team is doing

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well. We could do better at times. It seems to be getting better. Going

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in the right direction, and at that moment too many people were speaking

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about these things, but I just had to speak on the pitch, and that is

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what I feel comfortable doing, speaking through my football. So

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what kind of art do you like? I like modern art, I like pop art as well.

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You know, I admire creative people, in every sense of the word. You are

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creative yourself on the field. I try! I try. Mata went for the

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spectacular, what a goal from Juan Mata! That is stunning! Manchester

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United made some big signings this summer, how do you think they are

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doing? What is Ibra like, a real character? A real character and a

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great player, without a doubt. And obviously he is a strong character,

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he has got a strong personality, but he is funny as well. In the dressing

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room, he speaks with the young players, jokes, banter here and

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there. He has this humour that is needed, because if not football is

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too serious. It must be difficult for Paul Pogba, the expectation of

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being the world's most expensive player, it can't be easy. I imagine

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it is not easy, the expectations are so high. Sometimes people lose

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perception of the reality, we are not machines. It is not that they

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pay the money for you and you have to score every single game. Messi

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and Cristiano Ronaldo, they are two. They are humans, train the best you

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can, play the best you can, try to be a good professional, and the rest

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will come. What is the thing that needs to change to take you to the

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upper echelons? We need to be more consistent, in terms of results, and

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we need to finish our chances better, especially in the three or

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four home games that we have to win. So we need to finish that, and

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because I think that is why said we are in the right direction, because

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we are playing good, creating chances, and we need to finish them.

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If we win these three or four games, we will be up there, and it will be

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a different story. You are not the quintessential footballer, are you?

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You are a bit different, you have got a degree. I am trying to finish

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it, yeah, I still have two or three things to finish, but my aim is to

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finish it, I don't know when! Do you think Spanish players are more

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intelligent than English players? Genuine question, they always seem

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to be very articulate, Spanish players, they learn other languages.

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No, I don't believe that is a rule, because I have known so many English

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players, and my point of view they understand the game, because for me,

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it is very important to understand the game. It is not just about how

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strong you are, how many goals you score. I don't think it is a matter

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of where you are from, it is a matter of how you can teach yourself

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in the most effective way to try to play. I will ask it another way -

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Spanish players more disciplined in terms of their life? Their

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professionalism? Well, I think one of the biggest qualities for Spanish

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footballers, for me, is that we are very competitive, you know? And I

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think they take advantage of that when we go to a different country,

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like England, and try to play the way we play, but learning from the

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things that, you know, you can learn in English football. You are very

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popular, not just with Manchester United fans, not just with Chelsea

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fans, but universally - you don't get abuse or anything. Sometimes,

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but that is how it is. I don't think about being liked or not. I just try

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to be normal. I am a football player, but a human being first. I

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feel very lucky, because I live my live that almost anyone could dream

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for, which is, you like football, you play for the ball. There are a

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lot of benefits, a special lifestyle, but what is the downside?

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Well, there is a difficult side, which is when you think about the

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responsibility that you have, or when you think about the pressure

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that you play in front of millions of people, you know, that is not

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easy to handle sometimes. So you need to get ready to perform, and

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you need to perform and perform and perform, because if you don't, you

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don't get to play in your club, so mentally it is not as easy as it

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looks. And other than that, yeah, I could say that I cannot go with my

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friends sometimes in the weekends, when they go out, because you are 20

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something, you want to go out. You can do that when you finish, I

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waited until I was very old! I wouldn't complain about anything,

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because I am doing what I love to do. So this is a present for you.

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Very kind! Let's see if you like it. You might have to use it.

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Hang on a minute! That is next season when Leicester win the

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league! There you go! What about after football? Do you think you

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would go into coaching? I would love to present Match Of The Day! Oh, I

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am in trouble! I will be about done by then, by the time you have

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finished playing! You are welcome to the chair. Thank you for that! What

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would you consider success for you at Manchester United? Obviously, I

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would love to win the Premier League with Man United, but to be able to

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say that I have played with such a club, with the likes of George Best,

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Cantona, Cristiano Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes, all these players played.

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Well, thanks for giving me the tour and all your expert knowledge, and

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good luck for the rest of the season. Thank you very much, the

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pleasure was mine. Gracias. Best of luck to Juan Mata in the

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League Cup final this weekend. Swansea City's new state-of-the-art

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training facility. The Swans have come a long way

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since 2003, when they dramatically

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fought off relegation from the Football League

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on the final day of the season. Since then, the club has been

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on an upward trajectory, and have been a Premier League

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fixture for the past five seasons. However, this campaign has

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not gone so smoothly. They say this could be the last game

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in charge, it is a lot of pressure to put on yourself. Francesco

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Guidolin knows the pressure has gone up a notch. Francesco Guidolin has

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been sacked, he will be replaced by Bob Bradley. I am not an American

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manager, I am a football manager. Swansea are taking a hammering here.

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Too easy to play against, we let them totally dictated the match.

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Christian Eriksen, 1-0. It was a great being, bringing him in with

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his lack of experience, to keep them up. Bob Bradley has been sacked. All

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Clement will be their third Manager of the Season. -- Paul Clement.

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A deflating first league match in charge for Paul Clement. Paul

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Clement's team have scored three times at Anfield! If it is freeware

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wins out of four in the month of January... -- three wins. What a

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ridiculous turnaround, he was bottom when they came in. Brilliant finish!

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Sense Paul Clement has been given the job, Swansea have driven their

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way from relegation trouble -- since. Hello, how are you? Good to

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see you. The boss said it is or was like this.

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It is a normal Swansea day. He has been at places like real Madrid,

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with the sunshine. This is your second stint, so you know. But it is

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nice in the summer. It is, a beautiful part of the world. We are

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going to go in and have a chat. This is quite an impressive set up,

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this is all very new, the training ground and this. It has changed a

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lot. We have been here for about three months now, it is really good,

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positive vibe around the place. Everybody seems upbeat and positive.

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You have been over there playing table tennis. As cultivate an

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environment where you want to stay a little longer? -- does it. I think

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it does and results over the last couple of months I changed the

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atmosphere. Four managers over the last couple of years, what kind of

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place did Paul Clement find when he got here? It has been an interesting

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time. We were in a similar position this time last year going into

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January and are in a similar place now. The manager has done a really

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good job since he has come in. It is Gylfi Sigurdsson! Magnificent goal

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from Swansea. What has he done? He has brought an organisation into a

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defensive play, we are defending much better than we were. The

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quality in training as well has gone up. You can understand that because

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he has been at those big clubs. Why do you think it didn't work the Bob

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Bradley? What was the key ingredient that was missing? Of course, he

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didn't have a lot of time but if you look also at the manager now, he

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didn't have a lot of time until now and he has done really well.

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Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Obviously, the boss started

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his coaching career at Chelsea and you are going back there at the

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weekend. Has it changed this week, the intensity? Not at all, the same

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as every week. He is going there to get a result and a good performance

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and I'm sure his focus is on that. # And we were singing... Have you

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got any favourite football songs? Good question. The Swansea song. How

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does it go? Anyone? That is your favourite football song. We have

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said Charlie Baker of the task of putting his favourite football songs

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to jazz piano, so fingers crossed, he may have done the Swansea song.

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I'm sure he has done it really well. Hello, I'm Charlie Baker, comedian,

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singer, Torquay United fan. So what am I doing at Vicarage Road chanting

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about Watford FC? The producers of the Premier League

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Show have challenged me to come up with a new terrace chant and I

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thought where better to start than in the shadow of the Sir Elton John

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Stan. # And you can tell everybody

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# This is your song... So, let's break down the Watford FC chant. It

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starts with a strong, self promoting lyric.

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# Watford FC! Second line, they repeat, that they are in fact

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Watford FC, as if almost checking amongst themselves that they are

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Watford FC. # Watford FC. Then, save in the

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knowledge that they are Watford FC, they triumphantly cry Watford FC!

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Then the climax of the song, reiterating the fact that they are

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Watford FC, before laying the song to a beautiful rest with a final,

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exhausted, postcoital "Watford FC". # Watford FC! Yes, mate? Are you

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with someone today? I'm filming, mate. It's OK, I've not broken in.

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So that's the words. What about the June and head you get everyone

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singing it? I think the answer might be in here. My friend Kirsty Newton

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is the singalong queen of London. Kirsty, how'd you get people singing

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along? It is important to pick your moment, but most importantly, choose

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a well-known song. This is true, if you think about it, musical hits

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such as My Old Man... # My old man said be a City fan, I

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said BLEEP! # Sacked in the morning, you are

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getting sacked in the morning. And 1980s classics like gold. What? He

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has gone to the Chinese league. Anyone know the Chinese for gold. So

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mine, a top player, fun lyrics, telling about how great you are,

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then give it a Little Mix. # You'll never, you'll never get me

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down. Smashed it! I am not sure that is

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going to catch on. Are you a fan of jazz piano? I don't like it, it

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irritates me. Thank you for having us here today, it is fantastic to

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see the new Swansea training ground. Your football journey has been a

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very interesting one, to get to the stage to be a Premier League

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manager. A lot of people thought it may have come sooner but your

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relationship with Carlo Ancelotti in particular, I guess that was quite a

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tough relationship to extrapolate yourself from? It was, even when I

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look back at it now, I had that opportunity to work with him and

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some of the clubs and players, I have to pinch myself. I don't think

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it has sunk in that I had that journey through Chelsea, Paris

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Saint-Germain, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, it is pretty

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incredible. But it was a great learning experience, working with

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Carlo very closely for seven years, having that experience of European

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football culture, different leagues, the quality of the players that I

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worked with was amazing. But even before that, you development,

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teaching, everything that I think I have done has prepared me for this

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opportunity. Tell us about teaching and what your skills as a teacher

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have brought your role as a football manager? Ultimately, it is about

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communication, about dealing with people. Understanding that not

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everyone is the same, people are different learning styles, different

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personalities, different aspirations. What kind of a teacher

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were you? I was firm. Firm but fair. You know, I liked to have a good

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relationship with the kids but I didn't stand for any nonsense and

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that involves yelling at times. I was a disciplinarian, for sure, but

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in a good way. I wasn't over the top. Your dad was a great

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footballer, you grew up with football around you all the time and

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to lose him at an early age, do you always ??DELETE almost feel like you

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had to take the heritage on? I'm not sure, I grew up in the environment,

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so from a very young age, I remember going to games and being around

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training grounds, whether that be QPR awful Wimbledon, even Bolton.

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I'd like to think he would be very proud -- QPR awful. My brother was a

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professional for many years as well at West Brom. We are a real football

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family. Do you think your relationship with Carlo Ancelotti

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was fulfilling the role of a mentor but also a father figure? Of course.

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In regular contact with him, I am always looking at the Bayern Munich

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results, I go on face time to see how he is getting on. It was a

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special relationship, after seven years, when you work with someone so

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closely, you travel the world and you're sitting next to them on the

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coach and on the bench the games. It is strange and it may be strange for

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him that after this amount of time, I am not sitting next to him. To

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form a relationship like you had to do with Carlo Ancelotti and gel to

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such an extent that he wants to take you with him to all those big clubs,

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what was it? Was it a deep understanding of the way he wanted

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to set out and play football? Was it a personality thing? I imagine you

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will also be wanting to have those relationships with people you work

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with. When Carlo came in, he had Ray Wilkins in place as an assistant and

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didn't need another one. Frank Arnesen was the technical director

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and said to have a look at me and so we had a trial, if you like. While

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was thought I would go back to coach with the reserves but it was an

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opportunity I didn't want to turn down and not seem like I wasn't

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ambitious. So I did two weeks, we went away with the team to America

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and I found it uncomfortable, because I had been working so long

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in youth development football, to be in that environment was all very

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new. With the grown-ups? Yes, the environment is totally different and

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I initially said to Carlo, I think it is best that I go back and work

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the reserve team and get more experience and he said, you will

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have a great experience with me, you will learn a lot Angie will stay

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with me a long time and at that point I said, let's do this. You

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have been at clubs and coached players who are the very best of the

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very best. I read a really good article where you talked about

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic and the most incredible training session, and the

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intensity with which he trained. What did you take from those Uber

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players, if you like? I have never come across someone quite like

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic at Paris Saint-Germain. Such a powerful

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personality and, you know, bordering on arrogance. Just saying the right

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side of it? In a nice way, it made me smile. I walked out of training

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with him one day from the dressing room onto the pitches and he said to

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me about Didier Drogba, how is Didier Drogba, what is he like? I

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said he is a good player, he has these qualities, you know, like you

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have and he said, you have never worked with someone as good as me.

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Then Real Madrid came the Carlo. He said we have an opportunity to go

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there and I thought this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, to work at

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a great club like that, so there was no doubt in my mind that that was

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the right thing to do at that point. When that came to an end, you know,

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Derby was... They contacted me and I thought, this is a great first

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opportunity for me. So why didn't it work? I think that is what everybody

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else thought. It wasn't a success but I don't think it was a failure

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either. In my opinion, my time there was cut short. I have strong belief

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that if I was given more time, I would have gone on and been

:26:16.:26:19.

successful. You have had an amazing run of results, manager of the month

:26:20.:26:22.

as well, it couldn't have been a better start for you here. Does it

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feel a little bit surreal? It was a good start. I still feel really

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disappointed we lost to Arsenal, my first game at home, 4-0, really

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disappointed. They were on fire that day. They've played very well. I am

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also disappointed we didn't get a point at Manchester City, that is on

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my mind more than the win at Liverpool. So what would success for

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this season look like the you? To stay in this league but also not to

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have a really difficult time at the end of the season, when everyone is

:26:56.:26:58.

suffering with the pressure of having to get four points in the

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last two games, for example. We don't want to get in that situation,

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so we have to work really hard, every week, every game that we have

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in the near future, to make sure we get as many points as we can now so

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we don't have that potential period at the end of the season where the

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pressure is so, so high. Interesting fixture this weekend, going back to

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where it all started, Chelsea. Is there room for nostalgia, for

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romance, for you in this fixture? I am looking forward to it, having

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spent so many years there. One of the first things I did when I came

:27:31.:27:35.

here was look at the fixture list and see when it was coming up and it

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put a twinkle in my eye, going back to Stamford Bridge. I haven't been

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back in a coaching capacity, I have been to watch games but it will be

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my first time since 2011 and I have really fond memories, especially the

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2009-10 season, when we won the double with Carlo, a very rare thing

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in football and I'm looking forward to going back. If we get points

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against Chelsea, that will be a bonus but the four games after that

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are critical. Good luck at the weekend.

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Before we go, let's take a look at the weekend's fixtures.

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Paul and Swansea's trip to Chelsea takes centre stage on Saturday

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Watford take on West Ham in the evening kick-off.

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Tottenham entertain Stoke on Sunday, whilst Liverpool travel

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to struggling Leicester the evening after,

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and there will be a special Monday night MOTD2 for those two games.

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Everyone has packed up and gone home so all that is left for us to do is

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to thank Paul Clement and Swansea City for having us that they're

:28:33.:28:34.

brilliant new training ground. This time next week, we are off to

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Leicester to delve deeper into the Premier League champions' anger

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over. Rumours have been swirling around. I club statement has just

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been released that Claudio Ranieri has been sacked. The board

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reluctantly feels that a change of leadership, while admittedly

:28:52.:28:54.

painful, is necessary. We will forever be grateful to him for what

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he has helped us to achieve. Robert Burns. Bagpipes. Stovies.

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Billy Connolly, yeah.

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