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Good afternoon, welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two, | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
Radio 5 Live and the BBC Sport website. | :00:29. | :00:32. | |
Joining me today, former Liverpool midfielder Didi Hamann, | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
ex-Celtic striker Chris Sutton and Jonathan Northcroft | :00:36. | :00:37. | |
Chris Sutton also played for Chelsea on Blackburn hit man for Germany. | :00:38. | :00:46. | |
Get in touch using the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
After 13 successive home wins, the leaders Chelsea are beaten | :00:49. | :00:56. | |
by Crystal Palace, who have now won four in a row. | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
Has Chelsea's defeat opened the door to Spurs, | :01:00. | :01:01. | |
with the gap now seven points following their comfortable | :01:02. | :01:03. | |
You'll hear a remarkable interview from Jose Mourinho | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
Phillipe Coutinho shines as Liverpool beat Everton | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
And we'll look ahead to a big game at four o'clock, where Arsenal | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
As far as the papers are concerned, the Mail on Sunday says it's not | :01:15. | :01:28. | |
over, Mauricio Pochettino has warned that Chelsea -- one Chelsea but | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
Spurs are coming to them. The Sunday Times leads with Coutinho and the | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
headline Kop Star. The Telegraph has quotes from Jose Mourinho warning | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
his wasteful strikers. We will come onto him and Man United later and | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
the Merseyside derby, but we have to start with the Crystal Palace 2-1 | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
win at Stamford Bridge, four straight wins since Mamadou Sakho's | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
debut, conceding just one goal. There is lots of interest in Zapata | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
and Benteke, but how much difference has Sakho made? He has started four, | :02:06. | :02:12. | |
they lost that game at Sunderland and everybody thought that was it | :02:13. | :02:14. | |
for Crystal Palace but they came back strong. I don't think there has | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
ever been a doubt that he is a great defender, he has his deficiencies, | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
but Crystal Palace, the way Sam Allardyce wants to play, I think he | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
fits in perfectly. From his defensive qualities, Liverpool could | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
do with a player like him. No coincidence that results have | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
improved since he came in. Lots of people might have expected | :02:38. | :02:46. | |
that would Sam Allardyce, and Sammy Lee, who I understand deserves | :02:47. | :02:48. | |
credit for what he is doing in training, and Kevin Keane? They have | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
it working. I think we all expected a reaction quicker. Sakho has been | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
outstanding. They had some luck yesterday. But you have to. Three | :02:58. | :03:03. | |
clean sheets in the last four, conceded one yesterday, that is what | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
Sam Allardyce is about. Then they have the threat going forward, a big | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
goal yesterday from Zaha, also Benteke. They have tough fixtures | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
coming up that yesterday bodes well for them. It is similar to what | :03:19. | :03:26. | |
sounded at Sunderland, bringing in players in the transfer window. He | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
has brought in Sakho and another player. He has the spine of the team | :03:31. | :03:38. | |
but he lets attacking players play, he always did that at Bolton and now | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
you can see people like Zaha expressing themselves. We know | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
samples mac formula. Chris said we all expected him to get it right but | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
a couple of months ago when Crystal Palace were not doing particularly | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
well he said we will not pull away in February or March, you might have | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
to wait until April, similar to what happened at Sunderland. But they | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
still have Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, both Manchester clubs to | :04:09. | :04:10. | |
come. Yes, but they gave themselves a fighting chance. Four or five | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
weeks ago you would have said they were up against it, but it was three | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
months of points yesterday, probably nobody expected. But he has been to | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
so many places where you think, really, can he get them out, they | :04:25. | :04:31. | |
worked their socks off in 90 minutes, I think that is half the | :04:32. | :04:40. | |
battle. You need to be in defence, but if you want to win games you | :04:41. | :04:50. | |
have to score goals. They missed -- they missed Zaha when he was in the | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
African Cup of Nations. He is a game changer. You wonder if a 4-0 defeat | :04:55. | :05:02. | |
plates and part. That shocked Crystal Palace and make them realise | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
exactly where they are. When Sam took over he had the England thing | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
hanging over him, it seemed to be a rallying point and snapped everybody | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
out of it. The chairman, Steve Parish, the dressing room. Since | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
then, they have been fantastic. When you describe somebody as a game | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
changer, how many games do you expect them to change? Enough. I get | :05:25. | :05:33. | |
you... In terms of creativity, it has always been the end product | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
which has been missing. A big game yesterday at Chelsea. Nobody | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
expected them to get anything from it. Jonathan is quite right, Sakho | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
has come in, you need the threat going forward. Zaha can get you up | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
the pitch, I thought he took his goal to rhythmically a quick shot, | :05:52. | :06:00. | |
cellar Thibaut Courtois out. And Benteke's finish was really special. | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
You had to be able to score goals. The teams at the bottom, | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
Middlesbrough do not score enough, I think they are and Sunderland are | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
down and it is one other. The reason I asked how many games | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
you would expect him to change, it feels like a Palace to not win a | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
game then more often than not the criticism will come the way of | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
Wilfried Zaha, but it Chelsea do not win it does not always go to Eden | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
Hazard art as the man who is criticised. The reason I like a man | :06:29. | :06:37. | |
is that Allardyce said that he wants Zaha to emulate Hazard. There is a | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
lot of pressure on Zaha. -- the reason I likened to them is that. | :06:41. | :06:48. | |
Even on an average day, Zaha has to create three, four or five | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
goal-scoring opportunities for his team-mates and draw the attention of | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
other players. When Chris talks about an outlet, you want players | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
who draw the attention of two or three players, it gives you 12-macro | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
spy on the rest of the field. This is what Hazard does. Looking at the | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
teams at the bottom, you need to be able to keep a clean sheet. Looking | :07:10. | :07:17. | |
at some land, they have Defoe, I don't think Middlesbrough have a | :07:18. | :07:26. | |
game changer. I think Palace have two, potentially three or four with | :07:27. | :07:29. | |
Puncheon and some others. I think it bodes well for the rest of their | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
games. Sometimes we have to give them all the way because sometimes | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
we can be too critical when they don't assist or score on a regular | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
basis. It looks like he has grown up in | :07:43. | :07:49. | |
bed. Bolasie was Alan Pardew's go to guy, and Bolasie going, it was a big | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
onus on him to do what he is doing. Zaha has just seized his moment to | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
become the main outlet in that team. Just look at January, no Sakho, no | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
Zaha, poor January. Here's changing games now. | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
We will go back in two game changers when we talk about Ross Barkley and | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
Manchester United's attack. We could have the same conversation three | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
times during the course of the show. Rich says Sakho is immense for | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
Palace, would Klopp still pay Clucas ahead of him on this form? Sam says | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
that Sakho has been a godsend to Palace. Chelsea Warrior, who I | :08:32. | :08:35. | |
assume is a Chelsea fan, says all credit must go to Allardyce for | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
organising them. We can lump this in with Spurs winning at Burnley, you | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
watched that game. Is the title race back on in this reactionary world? | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
At midday yesterday it was over, all they said and it is back on? Is it? | :08:50. | :08:56. | |
I still think Chelsea are strong favourites. Tottenham were terrible | :08:57. | :09:00. | |
in the first top yesterday, but once they scored in the second half, in | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
total control, make changes. Touch Tottenham were terrible in the first | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
half yesterday. I think they only have Man United and Arsenal at home | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
out of the top six, they will fancy it. I didn't ask you how Spurs were, | :09:16. | :09:23. | |
I said is the title race back on? Yes. Pochettino talking about them | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
losing focus last season, he believes they will be OK this | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
season. Do you see a different Spurs this season to last? They would have | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
learned a lot from the Chelsea game last year when they completely lost | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
the plot, the manager being on the pitch and they were kicking people. | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
Something you have not seen at Spurs, when you associate them with | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
one thing, it is being organised, disciplined, doing what they do want | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
probably better than everybody else. I do not think the race is over, I | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
have expected a slip-up from Chelsea for a few weeks but they have been | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
too strong, scoring lots of goals. The mindset will change with | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
Chelsea, you can begins backwards and you say we need so many more | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
points. Psychologically, it can make a difference. If Spurs win those | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
games I can see it getting tighter. The nature of doing football shows | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
at this time of year is that you read a lot of fiction lists for | :10:24. | :10:29. | |
people to compere -- fixture lists. Spurs have Watford, Bournemouth, | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
Leicester and Palace, Arsenal and Man United at home, West Ham on a | :10:33. | :10:40. | |
Friday night, Hull on the final day of the season. Chelsea in the next | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
couple of weeks have Man City at home, this Wednesday, then they had | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
to go to Manchester United the weekend at the 15th and 16th. That | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
as much as yesterday means there is still a chance. Those Spurs fixtures | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
look quite easy but it is different trying to win them under pressure. | :10:59. | :11:02. | |
In the West Brom game last year, they drew when they should have won, | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
they were 1-0 but the pressure came on them, that was part of their | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
problem, winning under pressure. They have less pressure than Chelsea | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
because nobody expects them... Chelsea were really unfortunate | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
yesterday not to win the game. Palace defended resolutely deep. If | :11:24. | :11:30. | |
there is one worrying thing, Chelsea have started to concede goals. | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
Sometimes a game like this can put doubt in your mind, to lose a game | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
or a home game has not happened for a long time. Ten points, if you win | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
the next tenure probably have ten or 11, 56 games to go, near enough | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
there. Seven points, the fixtures, within a week you could be down to | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
one or two. It might put a bit of doubt into the mind. If one team can | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
do it the way they have performed without Kane, the job Pochettino is | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
doing is second to none. Is it Man City next for Chelsea? Thanks for | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
listening! I often don't listen. Particularly today! I don't mean | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
that. They had to bounce back. It is nothing to how they played | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
yesterday, it is just that for all the times of the element of doubt to | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
come in is before having Man City at home and Man United away. If they | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
lose to Man City it will be to four points. | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
Depending on what City do this afternoon. So we are basically none | :12:37. | :12:45. | |
the great stuff, everybody! You can use the hashtag #bbcfootball, or | :12:46. | :12:53. | |
phone on that macro text on 85058. Given Burnley's home form, you | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
thought some of the changes might have been risky. You probably could | :12:57. | :13:04. | |
have played in goal for Spurs, probably couldn't, to be honest! But | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
it was all about chances. They lost Wanyama through injury, Winks got a | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
nasty injury, Yan Sun got the chance up top. They just need to get Harry | :13:16. | :13:24. | |
Kane back. Dele Alli and Eriksen have been fantastic in the absence | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
of Harry Kane. I think it is a myth that they cannot deal with that | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
Harry Kane, how many other players have three or four players in double | :13:33. | :13:43. | |
figures for goals? They have other game changers! | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
Let's focus on the early game, you can listen to this on 5 live, full | :13:46. | :13:52. | |
commentary from 1:30pm, Swansea versus Middlesbrough at the liberty. | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
Juliette Ferrington is with a legend from the home side. | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
As far as the results are concerned, for Swansea and Middlesbrough, a | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
pretty grim afternoon yesterday. How much, Lee Trundle, writes on this | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
afternoon? I think it is massive, when you talk about a must win game, | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
it goes for both sides. The way Middlesbrough are in the table and | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
where we are, we need that cushion so we will be going out for the win, | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
definitely. Is there more pressure on Middlesbrough because of | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
yesterday? I think both of us are feeling the same pressure. We are a | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
few points ahead, but with a game like this, it's one series today, it | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
drags us right into it. Not only the three points but the confidence, if | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
you are losing to a team lower down in the division, where will your | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
points come from? The lads are focused and hope they can get three | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
points. Is there an element of calm going into this one? The past three | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
home games, we have done really well, we have won. We have not been | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
so good on the road. It will be nice to get back up to two hard games | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
away, get the home fans behind us and bring the points home. In his | :15:05. | :15:17. | |
programme notes, the manager said it is an opportunity to build on the | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
recent good form? Performance wise, we have been good since the gaffer | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
has come in. We seem to be more comfortable at home, a perfect day | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
for a game and a perfect day for a win. I am a little bit nervous, we | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
have looked at it this season and thought this is the biggest game of | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
the season. That keeps happening again and again. Today is now the | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
biggest game of the season. I am sure we will be involved in another | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
one, the way football is. You can hear full commentary on 5 live | :15:41. | :15:42. | |
sport, the kick-off is at 1:30pm. Ian Brown can give us the team news | :15:43. | :15:53. | |
from the Liberty Stadium. Today's results gave few favours to these | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
two clubs. That cranks up the pressure. Swansea today without | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
Fernando Llorente, their leading goal scorer, who is out with an | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
ankle injury. He misses today, so Jordan Ayew is upfront. Olsson makes | :16:12. | :16:18. | |
a timely return, and Leroy Fer returns to midfield. Middlesbrough | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
make one change from their defeat against Man United a couple of weeks | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
ago. Traore starts ahead of Leadbetter. Negredo stays up front, | :16:29. | :16:35. | |
and Gestede is on the bench. Traore starts the Middlesbrough. At least | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
that gives them some kind of attacking pace. Often they blacked | :16:39. | :16:45. | |
that this season. I think they are better suited to counter attack. | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
They don't score enough goals. This is a must win for Middlesbrough | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
today. Swansea strong at home. They will be looking over their shoulders | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
now with the results yesterday. But Middlesbrough have started to leak | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
goals, so they could be down. I think they would take a draw. If | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
they lose, the gap is eight points, which might be a bit too much with | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
eight or nine games to go. Traore, last week against Man United, he | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
merely change the game. Had a huge impact. Middlesbrough can score | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
goals. It is the biggest problem they have. Defensively they are OK, | :17:28. | :17:41. | |
but they simply cannot score. Today Traore is getting a chance, which | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
gives them more purpose going forward. In Negredo, they have | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
someone who can score goals. Fingers crossed they get a result, because | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
if they lose today, that could be it. If you take a more Cerebral | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
Assassin perspective, given the chairman that they've got, given the | :17:59. | :18:06. | |
way that the club has been won. -- has been run, could they do what | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
Burnley did and build on that and come back a second time with more | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
Premier League experience and a bit more stable? I know exactly what you | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
are saying. You look at it in those terms, they came up, just, and they | :18:24. | :18:30. | |
didn't spend that much money. It's probably not a surprise they are | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
where they are. They haven't overcommitted themselves, so they | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
could do exactly what you say. It could be important getting the next | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
manager. Burnley had Sean Dyche, and it looks like Karanka may be led | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
them down a bit of a blind alley. He was maybe a bit too negative and | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
didn't filled a team that they wanted. Do you think they are taking | :18:54. | :19:00. | |
their time, partly to see what Agnew does, but if they do go down, they | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
have the right man to bring them back. I think Craig Shakespeare does | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
well at Leicester, Middlesbrough tried the same thing, and it didn't | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
work quite as well. You have done your first scowl in my direction. | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
That is for people watching on -- people listening on the radio! They | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
don't score enough goals. A great chairman. Will that put them in good | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
stead if they go down to bounce straight back? I'm not sure. I don't | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
think they have a strong enough squad. I don't think it has ever | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
helped a team to go down. I don't think it's a positive. Getting out | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
the Championship is a huge effort. There will be teams down their... | :19:50. | :19:57. | |
Would you say it hasn't helped Newcastle? We will find out next | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
year. Burnley could still go down. There is another example. If you | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
look at the Championship, there's hardly a team that's been in the | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
Premier League. They've brought Jonathan Woodgate in, which I think | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
is a big thing. He's an icon in the north-east. He just has to get the | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
fans behind him, or keep them. One result can change an awful lot. If | :20:23. | :20:29. | |
you win at Swansea today, you are only a few points of safety. | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
Personally, I cannot see it, but I think they will not get beat. I | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
think they will get at least a draw today. How far up the table would | :20:38. | :20:44. | |
you go for who is still in this relegation battle. Hole-macro are in | :20:45. | :20:50. | |
the final relegation spot with 27 points from 30 games. I'm not saying | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
this, Southampton fans, before you have a pop! If you go onto ten, you | :20:57. | :21:03. | |
have Southampton, who will be 34 from 28. I think you do go up to | :21:04. | :21:11. | |
Southampton. It is unlikely that Southampton and even Bournemouth | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
will get dragged into it, but you've seen it before. Lose your last seven | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
or eight games and you can sync. Realistically, it will start with | :21:22. | :21:27. | |
West Ham. They are in 14th. We Mac I worry about Burnley, because they're | :21:28. | :21:36. | |
away form is hopeless. Hahn's win yesterday has really opened things | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
up at the bottom. It is impossible to predict that last spot. I would | :21:41. | :21:50. | |
go further than Burnley. West Ham on 33 probably only need two more wins. | :21:51. | :22:02. | |
West Ham have a tough few games. If they do need a result, they always | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
dig a result out somewhere. I wouldn't go further than Burnley. If | :22:08. | :22:15. | |
Middlesbrough lose, it is between Hahn, Swansea, Palace and Burnley. | :22:16. | :22:26. | |
-- between Hull City, Swansea. It is so tight. How can we not say that | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
Southampton and Bournemouth are in it? They have got a couple of games | :22:31. | :22:39. | |
in hand. I think anyone from Bournemouth could go. It is unusual | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
to have Palace on a winning run, Hull City on the winning run... You | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
don't see teams in the bottom going on those kinds of winning runs too | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
often. That shows you that nobody is entirely safe. Their manager hasn't | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
lost a home game for three years. They have got some really good... | :23:03. | :23:10. | |
Don't make me read out another fixture list! They have some very | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
winnable home games. And this goes under the radar as far as the home | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
team is concerned. Watford's three points against Sunderland yesterday, | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
taking them to 34, was a vital three points. It does. Sunderland are | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
tenth and they don't seem to have played well the entire season. They | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
are out of it now. I think they are a strong team anyway. They are on 34 | :23:38. | :23:45. | |
with Southampton and Bournemouth. Let's turn to the Scottish | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
Premiership title, which will be sealed today by Celtic if they win | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
at Hearts. This was a 12:30pm kick off. We are under way here. The | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
first time Celtic can seal that victory. It will give them a sixth | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
successive Championship here in Scotland, and their first under | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
Brendan Rodgers, who was connected with the Arsenal job this week. No | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
Dembele, no Griffiths, because of a fractured vertebra sustained in last | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
week's Scotland World Cup qualifier against Slovenia. At the moment, | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
they have had the bulk of the play. At the moment, 0-0. Jonathan | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
Northcroft, how do I interpret the look you gave me when he said that | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
Brendan Rodgers had been connected with Arsenal? Scepticism. He is | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
still in that rebuilding phase of his career. I am a fan of his, but | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
this will be his first league title, he will have just won his first | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
trophy in November, so he's quite a long way from being the man who to | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
succeed Arsene Wenger. You talked about being in the rebuilding stage | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
of his career. What is he rebuilding from? His morale. Liverpool | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
shattered him. My concern if he went to Arsenal would be how he would be | :25:14. | :25:25. | |
able to handle it. If he wants a big job, he will have to handle it. | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
Nobody is getting the Arsenal job, are they? Whatever people say about | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
Brendan at Liverpool, there was criticism at the end, he's gone into | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
Celtic, and people cannot the Scottish league as much as they | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
like, but everybody in Scotland to knows about football... Rangers | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
thought they could beat Celtic, but Brendan has done nothing wrong. The | :25:52. | :25:56. | |
last manager was really poor and they had no right to get into the | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
Champions League. He has worked wonders this season, and should get | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
credit for it. Chris is right. Aberdeen, my team, will get 80 odd | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
points, and we will lose by 20 points to Celtic. So he has done a | :26:13. | :26:18. | |
remarkable job. The other thing is, coming off the back of an | :26:19. | :26:21. | |
international break, the England player that was praised most by the | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
media and fans was Adam Lallana, and Stuart Armstrong was praised by | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
Gordon Strachan is having the most impressive international debut he | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
had seen for Scotland. Both players developed by Brendan Rodgers. You | :26:37. | :26:44. | |
can make a case that Lallana's form has improved, and he's a lot more | :26:45. | :26:48. | |
consistent now than he was. My question to Jonathan Wood be, if you | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
say he is rebuilding his career, I think he's more prepared, or he has | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
more chance or justification to get a big job now, than he did at the | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
time he went to Liverpool. In the end what cost him his job at | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
Liverpool was some of the things he came out in the press... Scheuer | :27:10. | :27:17. | |
football stats, I don't think the current manager is better than he | :27:18. | :27:21. | |
was. I don't think he did too much wrong. Celtic, when they are in | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
town, it is always the game of the season. To go a whole season | :27:28. | :27:35. | |
unbeaten, which he can still do, and of course the heavy defeat against | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
Barcelona happened to others. I think Brendan Rodgers should be one | :27:40. | :27:49. | |
of the key managers on the list. It is simple to look at Celtic this | :27:50. | :27:55. | |
season. The transformation from last season. Totally performed the | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
personnel, good signings, and the team has been a million times | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
better. The signings I think were a problem in the end at Liverpool. The | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
accusation at Liverpool was that he didn't make all of those signings. | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
There is a point there, but I would just come back to the pressure | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
thing. I don't think he's been under that much pressure at Celtic, | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
because it has gone so well. I have to disagree. I saw him after one of | :28:26. | :28:32. | |
the away games, and I have never seen Brendan looked rough. He was | :28:33. | :28:39. | |
shaking. They were fortunate to get through in the away leg, and that | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
was enormous. The pressure for Brendan Rodgers is going to come in | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
the early part of the season, because Celtic fans expect. Last | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
season they didn't, but now, expectation is high. When you go to | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
Celtic, everybody expects you to win the league. Even the Champions | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
League, people don't see that as an achievement. Let's move on to the | :29:06. | :29:13. | |
Merseyside derby. Get in touch with us on #bbcfootball. Thomas sent us a | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
text on 85058. Jonathan Northcroft, you are the media on this panel. | :29:20. | :29:28. | |
Answer this one. Can you or one of your panel explain why the media | :29:29. | :29:34. | |
focus so obsessively with highlighting Ross Barkley? Is that | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
another player in the Premier League that is subjected to this kind of | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
scrutiny? Loads of players, Alexis Sanchez at Arsenal, Costa at | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
Chelsea... He is a focal player, and he wants to be. Who is he being | :29:49. | :29:55. | |
built by as the next answer to Steven Gerrard? By Evertonians. Not | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
all of them, because I think opinion is a bit divided. Some of it is not | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
his fault. We have hyped him up as the media. But yesterday, you could | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
not focus on Ross Barkley when you looked at Everton's performance. He | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
had such responsibility, and he singularly failed to cope with it. | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
It was a very bad game from him. Ryan Giggs in the Telegraph said the | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
following, as a young player, you have to and the trust of managers | :30:28. | :30:32. | |
and perform consistently. There were times in my early career when Steve | :30:33. | :30:35. | |
Bruce would call me over and say, come on, we need a bit of magic to | :30:36. | :30:43. | |
win this. I was no longer the kid of whom any meaningful contribution was | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
to be applauded. There were expectations. My team-mates had seen | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
me win games and wanted to see me do so again. Barkley is 23. Is he at | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
that stage of his career? No longer a kid, and his team-mates asking for | :30:58. | :31:00. | |
a bit of magic. Yes. Costa and Sanchez are seasoned | :31:01. | :31:11. | |
internationals, he does not come into the same bracket so there is | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
more scrutiny on him should be. I am huge fan of Ross Barkley, the way | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
Everton set up at the moment it does not help him, you might compare him | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
to Dele Alli, even though he is a few years younger, he has Wanyama, | :31:25. | :31:30. | |
Dele Alli, who has thrived, Dembele. He has international committees and | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
players next him. Looking at Everton, Jagielka is coming to the | :31:34. | :31:42. | |
end of his career, others are passed 80. -- past 30. The same with | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
Schneiderlin. I don't think he has the support that other players have. | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
For him to progress I think the team has to bring two or three players | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
in. For his personal development, I am not too sure if a change of clubs | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
would be the best for him, because the fans get very nasty with him at | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
times. Whenever things go wrong, Ross Barkley is the first one | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
singled out by the fans, I think he does not deserve the treatment. He | :32:11. | :32:20. | |
may not have performed to the level that he can but I don't think he | :32:21. | :32:22. | |
deserves the criticism. Sometimes as a fan you are more harsh on your own | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
because you want them to do so well, because they are one of you. Yes? | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
Yes. He did not help himself in the Derby yesterday. He did the | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
ridiculous tackle on Henderson in the first half. He lost the plot. He | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
is of an age now, you're getting at this with Ryan Giggs, he is at a | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
crossroads. Nobody doubts his potential but in the end he has to | :32:45. | :32:49. | |
realise that potential. For England, should he or shouldn't he be? That | :32:50. | :32:59. | |
is -- he is behind cellar Dele Alli, Dele Alli is streets ahead of him | :33:00. | :33:03. | |
now. He needs to perform consistently well. Is it fair he was | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
compared with Coutinho after yesterday? What are the differences? | :33:10. | :33:17. | |
He is a different type of player for a start. That is why I asked if it | :33:18. | :33:25. | |
was fair. I don't think it is. He is seen as a creator. My question would | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
be is he in the comfort zone, has he been there for too long, does he | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
need another manager to get the best out of him? He does not fulfil his | :33:37. | :33:41. | |
potential, as it is now. We all agree he is better than what he | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
shows at the moment. Everything has been built for him by a committee | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
has played in the position he wants, earlier in his career he played | :33:50. | :34:03. | |
wide. The manager has less to do what he wants, he does not have | :34:04. | :34:05. | |
responsibilities, he plays number ten, he has been given the stage. He | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
is 23, the comparison with Coutinho comes in, they are different players | :34:09. | :34:10. | |
but similar ages. At some point, which is what Ryan Giggs is getting | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
at, you will be judged as a senior player and Ross Barkley did not | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
perform like one yesterday. It was a big game, big stage comic huge | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
Derby, he should have been sent off twice. | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
If people are watching, we have a picture of remember Lukaku behind | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
you, he was criticised. People are saying he went missing yesterday, | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
did not have a shot on target. Similar against Man United and | :34:36. | :34:42. | |
Chelsea. It is very easy to go, well, Romelu Lukaku went missing, he | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
did not do anything, but then you criticise some of the players behind | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
him, so which is it? Maybe you excuse a striker who is not getting | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
supply. When I was doing ratings I tried to bear in mind that he had | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
hardly any supply, but he almost had as bad a game as Barkley. We have | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
seen this from Lukaku before in big games, he has just not been the | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
bully, as it were, that we have seen. Were Liverpool comfortable | :35:12. | :35:16. | |
yesterday? Very comfortable, apart from the ten or 15 minutes when | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
Everton equalised. Looking at the Everton team, looking at world-class | :35:22. | :35:24. | |
players, even when they have average games or they are a bit off-colour, | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
you want them to affect the game three, four or five times. Barkley | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
did not do it yesterday, Lukaku did not do it. They looked a lot more | :35:35. | :35:40. | |
solid defensively yesterday with Lovren coming back, it was a pretty | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
comfortable afternoon the Liverpool. Pat Cronin said that Everton were | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
shocking, did not want to compete, just wanted to kick Liverpool off | :35:51. | :35:58. | |
the pitch. Mixmaster Du said that Berkeley... Barkley cannot be relied | :35:59. | :36:06. | |
on. One person said if he is no good for Liverpool, how could he be going | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
to Arsenal? He was out of his depth at Liverpool, sold out by going to | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
Scotland with Celtic. Don't say anything, Chris! He has already | :36:19. | :36:21. | |
failed at Liverpool, a similar underachieving club to Arsenal. | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
Don't go that extra measure Mark let's go to the Emirates, Arsenal | :36:27. | :36:31. | |
against man city, the 4pm game, highlights are on much of the day to | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
later. Steve Wilson is at the Ritz, this could be an interesting | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
atmosphere? -- Steve Wilson is at the Emirates. I heard what Bob | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
Wilson said about this stasis which Arsenal find themselves because | :36:50. | :36:54. | |
everybody is trying to answer will he or won't he stay. Arsene Wenger | :36:55. | :37:03. | |
says he is not in a position to deal what that macro reveal what he is | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
going to do. As Morrissey said all those years ago, How Soon Is Now? I | :37:09. | :37:14. | |
agree with Bob Wilson that it is not helping anybody at this football | :37:15. | :37:19. | |
club whilst this type of uncertainty and paralysis is going on, it will | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
be difficult for Arsenal to achieve their goal, which can be no more | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
than two finish in the top four of the Premier League. They could still | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
win the FA Cup. For what it is worth, I would not state my | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
reputation on it but I get a feeling that Wenger will be around next | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
season. As far as Manchester City, we have | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
already done the permutations of the title race, what happened yesterday | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
will give them an extra spring in their step? Absolutely, looking at | :37:52. | :38:00. | |
the title race through the kaleidoscope of how it looks on | :38:01. | :38:03. | |
Saturday morning, it looks rather different now. Man City 12 points | :38:04. | :38:05. | |
behind, a game in hand, they go to Stamford Bridge on Wednesday and the | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
lead could potentially be cut to six points is Man City win both these | :38:10. | :38:12. | |
games. There is a big difference between cutting the lead on Chelsea | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
to six points and overhauling the 6-point gap, overhauling Tottenham | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
Hotspur. You would say that it's City win today and can win at | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
Stamford Bridge on Wednesday as Palace did yesterday, all bets are | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
off. Unexpectedly, there has been life thrown back into Manchester | :38:34. | :38:39. | |
City's Premier League season. Steve Wilson, This Charming Man at the | :38:40. | :38:42. | |
Emirates, thank you. I am told the banner is being | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
carried down the Holloway Road saying in Arsene we rust, which | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
makes more sense than the Wexit banner held at the couple of weeks | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
ago. Some Arsenal fans have mixed feelings? I think it has gone past | :38:59. | :39:04. | |
blaming Arsene Wenger. The fact that he is in charge of his destiny is | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
wrong, it is the owners. He is not an ambitious man, from what I see, | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
with his American franchises. He has to take the decision away from | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
Arsene Wenger, Arsene Wenger is stubborn, he does not want to go. | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
That whole situation will only be cleared up when the owner is strong | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
enough and takes the decision away from Wenger. Long-term, I think | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
there is a big question as to whether Wenger should stay, | :39:36. | :39:38. | |
short-term situation is really damaging Arsenal. That dressing | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
room, Chris and Didier will know better than me, when teams are | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
whingeing about a manager's future, it does not help them. Arsenal are | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
waiting for their manager to reveal all. It looks like it has become | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
centred around Wenger, his ego trip, they need to move forward as a club. | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
Why can't he just say, I am staying or I am going. He has reportedly | :40:09. | :40:16. | |
said, I will not stop, for old people, retirement is death. If he | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
will not continue at Arsenal, that seems he will continue elsewhere. | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
There has been a goal at Tynecastle. When Celtic were under the cosh they | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
responded in the fashion that wins you championships. Scott Sinclair | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
not picked up properly on the right-hand side of the Hearts | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
defence, they got a bit of luck with a deflection with a final shot, it | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
rose into the roof of the net and that is why you can hear the Celtic | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
fans booming out of their anthems. Do you think your old club will go | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
to Arsenal and win? I think they have every chance, they | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
look more solid since the keeper has changed. It is a sorry state of | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
affairs, what happens at Arsenal at the moment. Uncertainty does not | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
help. You give players excuses. The spotlight has been on him when you | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
get beat on aggregate ten goals against Bayern Munich, some of the | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
player should have been called out but they were not because the talk | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
is about the manager. If he stays, fair enough, I think it would | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
probably be time for change, but if he wants to stay, fine. At least | :41:24. | :41:28. | |
make it clear, at the moment I don't think the situation helps anyone. | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
Didier Hemant, Chris Sutton and Jonathan Northcroft join me. Here is | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
the Jose Mourinho interview from yesterday. | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
We saw you smiling with Tony Pulis at the end, did you cancel each | :41:42. | :41:47. | |
other out? I don't know what you mean. Two team is very evenly | :41:48. | :41:53. | |
balanced? Do you think so? I am asking you. You think so, really? | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
You think that is a question. You were smiling with him at the end, | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
was that an acknowledgement? I was smiling because he is my friend, I | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
was not speaking about the game. Do you think the game was like that? I | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
can smile if I lose, win or draw, it has nothing to do. Do you think the | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
game was like you were saying? I was asking what you thought, that is | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
just what I am asking. I am sorry to say, that is a silly question. When | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
a team crosses the midfield line once in 90 minutes and the other | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
team for 90 minutes is with the ball in the opponents half, trying and | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
trying and trying and trying, you tell me one team cancelled the | :42:37. | :42:43. | |
other? Chris Sutton has been given how was a Macromedia training, it | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
seems to have worked. What is wrong with back if you disagree with the | :42:48. | :42:53. | |
question? I don't what he said. Touch what is wrong with firing | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
back? I don't think it was a great question, it was one-sided in terms | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
of territory, but Mourinho should concentrate more on his team in an | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
attacking sense. They have not scored enough, West Brom cancelled | :43:09. | :43:11. | |
out the attacking threat of Man Utd. They are the lowest scorers in the | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
top six, West Ham have had a great season. Rather than focus on getting | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
back at a reporter, concentrate on the job in hand and sorting out your | :43:22. | :43:25. | |
team. We only have 20 seconds but it is | :43:26. | :43:30. | |
the same old story, simple, simple, simple football put across and | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
nobody gets on the end of it? It was like that and a Van Gaal, and with | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
Van Gaal that was also more action in the press room than on the pitch. | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
Celtic have just gone 2-0 up at Tynecastle, the title will be | :43:44. | :43:50. | |
theirs. Thank you to Chris, Didi and Jonathan. Swansea against | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
Middlesbrough then Arsenal against man city today, highlights later and | :43:56. | :43:58. | |
both commentaries on 5 live this afternoon. Goodbye. | :43:59. | :44:00. |