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Welcome to Match Of The Day 2 Extra, on the penultimate Sunday of | :00:00. | :00:40. | |
a fascinating season. I'm Guy Mowbray, sitting in for Mark | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
Chapman. We live on BBC One, radio 5 Live and across the BBC sport | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
website. As usual, plenty to talk about. We have the latest on the | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
title race, as Manchester City remain in poll. Liverpool player | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
Monday against Palace. We ask what next for Palace and Fulham, both | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
down despite five managers between them. Let's get stuck into all of | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
that and more, in the next 45 minutes. I'm joined by radio 5 Live | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
and Match Of The Day comment data, McNamara, Oliver Kay, chief of all | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
correspondent for the Times, and Kevin Kilbane, whose eight clubs in | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
action yesterday managed two wins between them, well done Huddersfield | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
and Sunderland. Of course, we want your views as well. | :01:28. | :01:36. | |
So, what are the papers talking about on Sunday? It is all about | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
Manchester City, mainly. They are rarely there. City Bankers is one | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
headline I particularly like. Another says Mersey Beat, a | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
particularly nice one. Are they nearly there? Let's hear from Manuel | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
Pellegrini after yesterday's win at Goodison Park. It's a good result | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
because I think that was a very tough game. We thought from the | :02:01. | :02:05. | |
beginning that Everton will play this game, thinking what they can | :02:06. | :02:11. | |
do, not thinking if we lift the title if they win today. I think | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
they played very well. They started winning the game with an | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
unbelievable goal in the top corner. I think that was the character of | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
the team, playing away against a very good team. We could turn the | :02:26. | :02:34. | |
match, winning 3-1. After they scored the second goal, maybe that | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
means we were a little bit more nervous. You were there, as I was, a | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
great performance from City. A decent performance from Everton as | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
well. He gives nothing away, he must be the most unflappable manager we | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
have seen in the league? Journalist is often go to the press conference | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
thinking they are not going to get a screaming back page headline. As you | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
say, he is unflappable. The same, if they win or lose. Finally, it looks | :03:00. | :03:06. | |
like they have turned the corner and hit top gear at the right time. It | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
looks like it's very much their title to lose. Not good for you | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
guys, he gives you nothing to go on, nothing phases him? It's sometimes | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
quite refreshing. You hear so much nonsense, particularly at this time | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
of year, from managers chasing titles. I'm not going to name names! | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
Some of them might not be in work any more. At least with Pellegrini, | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
at least he is sensible. At least it is... I mean, he's not there to give | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
as headlines, he doesn't give us headlines. As we say, City Bankers, | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
his team are giving themselves headlines and that was a good | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
performance. Is it their title? I thinking of the Sunderland slip-up, | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
recently. The QPR drama of two years ago. There is a bit more left in it? | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
I was at the Etihad when Sunderland took points of them, I thought, | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
they've let this slip. There was always the hope that Liverpool would | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
slip up, particularly in the game against Chelsea. That is how it | :04:09. | :04:11. | |
turned out. I would not remortgage the house to bet on it yet, there | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
could still be a twist. What is huge, and this is where you cannot | :04:17. | :04:18. | |
underestimate the power of the strength of a squad, Edin Dzeko | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
started the season as third choice striker. Well, fourth! Exactly, you | :04:22. | :04:30. | |
have Negredo, Aguero, looking fantastic and scoring goals. Aguero | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
picks up an injury, as a result there is a loss informed to Negredo. | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
To pick up the slack, you have Edin Dzeko coming in. That is the sort of | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
resources the other title challengers, including Liverpool, | :04:43. | :04:44. | |
brilliant to watch going forward, they haven't had that extra element | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
when one of their main guys get injured. A quick word on your former | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
club, Kevin, Everton. They played their part. Ross Barkley's goal, | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
what a goal. He's such a wonderfully talented, gifted footballer. It's | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
the right time, Roy Hodgson is watching. It sends a message at the | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
right time, for Ross Barkley. The way that Everton set up yesterday, | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
they reverted to system a bit. It's what Martin as did with Wigan in | :05:11. | :05:19. | |
that cup final. -- Roberto Martinez. I think the goals they conceded were | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
poor, they were preventable. Bringing Jagielka back in, they | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
wanted to maybe give him a bit of bodies around him to relieve the | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
pressure on him. It didn't quite work for them. Overall, I think they | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
put in a good show, you can't say they rolled over and allowed back | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
city to win the game. That defeat means they can't make the Champions | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
League. There will be in the Europa league. That means Arsenal are | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
guaranteed to be in fourth place before they play their game against | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
West Bromwich Albion at the Emirates this afternoon. Simon Brotherton is | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
therefore Match Of The Day. The shackles are off for Arsenal? They | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
can play us they want, just how they like it? Yes, absolutely. They have | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
scored three goals in each of the last three games, so they are | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
playing with creativity and confidence once again. Going back to | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
the point from a couple of minutes ago, about Edin Dzeko on the | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
strength in depth up front for Manchester City, I think that is | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
something that Arsenal have and confidence once again. Going back to | :06:17. | :06:18. | |
the point from a couple of minutes ago, about Edin Dzeko on the | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
strength in depth up front for Manchester City, I think that is | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
something that Arsenal haven't and have this season. They relied very | :06:24. | :06:25. | |
heavily on Olivier Giroud, and that a key point in the season, when | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
injuries started to pile up, they wanted more. For a while it looked | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
like they have a chance of the title. They have spent more time at | :06:32. | :06:33. | |
the top of the pen elite than anybody else, with 17 weeks. But | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
those injuries and that lack of strength in depth when the likes of | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
Aaron Ramsey, Mesut Ozil, Theo Walcott, when they went out, perhaps | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
that came into play. The other thing I thought I should say about | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
Arsenal, when we look back on their season and if top four is good | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
enough or not, in terms of improvement, Arsene Wenger will say | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
they have improved. If they win today, they will have more points | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
than they have had for the past six years. Within the three egg games, | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
against the top three now, they struggled. -- three big games. They | :07:06. | :07:12. | |
conceded 17 goals against the top three. They've got to start better | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
in those games, that's a key area where they have to improve. But | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
Arsenal will feel they are three or four games away from really | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
challenging at the top. Absolutely right about the games | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
challenging at the top. Absolutely teams. West Bromwich homers sort of | :07:27. | :07:28. | |
game that traditionally they have won quite comfortable. What about | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
West Brom? Suggestions Pepe Mel might already be on his way at the | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
end of the season? He might be. It is yet to be decided. There is a get | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
out clause in his contract for him and the club. I think that was about | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
whether they stayed in the Premier League. Although they are not | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
mathematically secure, I think they are safe. I don't think they will be | :07:51. | :07:52. | |
going down. That job is basically done. I think he settled reasonably | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
well in England. He wants to done. I think he settled reasonably | :07:58. | :08:00. | |
continue in the job. Understandably, he would be looking for some | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
assurances from Westbridge Albion. They have 12 players on loan, of | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
contract or who the club have options on over the summer. That | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
means there will be a lot of change. This is a club with a sporting | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
director. I think Pepe Mel wants to make sure he could be in charge of | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
those decisions and also that he will get a reasonable and fair | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
transfer budget. He wants assurances he will be to carry out his vision | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
for West Bromwich Albion. There is no suggestion he will be leaving the | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
club. I think you would like to carry on next season. | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
Pepe Mel, carrying on next season. It looks as though Arsene Wenger | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
will be as well. He's yet to sign a new contract, but the noises are | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
that it just a formality? He suggested all along that he will see | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
how things are after the cup final. From one point of view, if Arsenal | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
were to win the FA Cup, would that be a nice way to go? Probably. But I | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
think he will always feel that he has unfinished business. I don't | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
think is the kind of guy to walk away from a team that he believes is | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
on the up. I think it probably is. They have improved this season, it | :09:13. | :09:14. | |
just hasn't been the big improvement that they needed to maintain the | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
strong start to the season. There could be a trophy, which I think is | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
the be all and end could be a trophy, which I think is | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
fans. But let's not take Hull City for granted. He said two or three | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
signings, that is all. Then they are close to the title. Is he talking in | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
points? There is only seven points between them and Liverpool and | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
Manchester City. I think it might be enough, if they are good players. | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
Mesut Ozil is the only time recently when he has splashed the | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
Mesut Ozil is the only time recently recognised superstar. He likes to | :09:52. | :09:53. | |
get them before they are famous. Would you say it has half worked? He | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
had one or two Margot James where he looked off the pace, but I also saw | :09:59. | :10:06. | |
some magical moments. -- one two games. I think he will be a top | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
performer in the league next season. Where he has struggled is that they | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
haven't have the strikers on the end of his creativity. This season, they | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
have not really had an attacking option apart from Olivier Giroud. If | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
he goes out, splashes the cash and brings in two or three players that | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
we look at in a World Cup and say, that is a world superstar, is he | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
going to buy that kind of player? Traditionally, he hasn't stopped | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
some Ed ultimately, I think Mesut Ozil has been a success. He did look | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
tired towards the end of the season. Two or three signings, I think they | :10:45. | :10:52. | |
need perhaps one or two centre halves. There is talk of Lars | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
Bender, as well. He's a top player. It interesting that you say | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
defenders. We have a message on Facebook, should they splash the | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
cash on three goal-scorers? They definitely need a striker. If Giroud | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
stays or goes, they will need support for him. You get a lot of | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
stick, saying that defensively, they have been strong, Mertesacker has | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
looked good, but I think in the big games he has struggled. Alongside | :11:23. | :11:32. | |
him, Koscielny, he has trouble. The top centre half they need, perhaps | :11:33. | :11:38. | |
two. One or two them could leave the club. Arteta or Flamini might leave, | :11:39. | :11:47. | |
and they need a striker on the back of that as well. I think this has | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
been progression. Does it come down to beating Hull at Wembley? I think | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
that is what the supporters will feel. If they beat route it will be | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
a successful season. Overall, I think it has been progression. Is | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
going to become a joke with them that finishing in the top four is a | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
trophy. 17 years in a row in the Champions League is not to be | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
sniffed at. I do think it is important, securing that staters. If | :12:14. | :12:16. | |
there was a question as to whether he would carry on, I think his own | :12:17. | :12:24. | |
pride would take a battering. In the Champions League, I think he will | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
feel there is progress. Get Aaron Ramsey fit for a season and let's | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
see how they do. Let's not forget how important he was early in the | :12:32. | :12:37. | |
campaign. Take that threat out of the team, and this is what we get. | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
You also want to see Jack Wiltshire having a full season, Chamberlain, | :12:43. | :12:50. | |
Walcott. Let's go from the top four towards the bottom. Relegation is | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
confirmed for Cardiff and Fulham sublets hear from their respective | :12:55. | :12:55. | |
managers. Your mission, your desire, | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
personally, is that to stay on and get Cardiff back into the Premier | :13:05. | :13:08. | |
League? Definitely. We have had four seasons prior to this one where we | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
have been top of the Championship. Now we have gone down, taken a step | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
back, it is about showing character and bouncing straight back. You | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
always performed as a player at the top end of things, do you think you | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
will have the knowledge and experience will Championship | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
football? Why shouldn't I? There is no reason for that performance. I | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
want to know why we have the worst game where I have been here, and... | :13:35. | :13:42. | |
I don't expect it. I thought we are fighting against relegation, and I | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
have told the team we have a great chance today. But they never took | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
the chance, we never searched for the chance. It was a terrible day | :13:53. | :13:59. | |
for me. He is a fascinating character, Felix Magath. Do you see | :14:00. | :14:06. | |
him staying at Craven Cottage? I heard a full refund saying he was -- | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
a Fulham fun, saying he was all for Felix Magath staging the recovery, | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
but after seeing the team yesterday, he doesn't want him there any more? | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
I can understand a fan looking at that and thinking there was nothing | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
to it, no spine, no bone. There have been a view like that, under all | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
three managers. The records have been very similar under the three. | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
They have been consistently poor all season. They've conceded goals, 83 | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
over the course of the season. They have conceded threes, fours, sixs. | :14:42. | :14:52. | |
Despite the managerial changes, possibly because of them, I think | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
Rene Meulensteen was sacked at a time when he was finally settling on | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
some kind of formula. I'm normally somebody that stands up for managers | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
and says they should be given time, but I think Martin Jol should not | :15:06. | :15:08. | |
have been given the job at the start of the season. I don't think they | :15:09. | :15:11. | |
should have retained him. Things had already gone stale. Do you think it | :15:12. | :15:18. | |
started a couple of years ago when it was obvious that they were | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
looking to sell the club? I really do feel that. Mark Hughes was | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
criticised for walking out in pursuit of a bigger club and ending | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
up at QPR who got relegated. But I think Fulham 's ambition did peak | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
around the Europa League final four years ago. They have been trying to | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
cap costs. They have had a good academy. We often hear that. At the | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
players have not really been brought through. It seems there has been a | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
loss of vision and real direction over the past two years. On Cardiff, | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
it has been a sorry tale. It should have been a season to savour, | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
it has been a sorry tale. It should season to remember for the fans. It | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
has been awful. I'd member going there early in the season and the | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
beta Manchester City at home. And you think, all the criticism, this | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
is where the romance is still in the competition. This is wonderful. It | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
cannot be all Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 's fault. He has come into a club | :16:23. | :16:31. | |
that has issues in the background. I have no problem with people being | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
superstitious. If you want to play the banjo while hopping on one leg, | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
go for it. But if you force your superstitions on others, is Vincent | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
Tan has, that is where things happen. To play devil 's advocate, | :16:46. | :16:52. | |
he has been very reasonable while. He has had some money as well. Yes, | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
I think the same for Fulham. I interviewed Felix Magath in the | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
tunnel yesterday and he said the biggest mistake this season was | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
signing those eight players in January. I interviewed him in the | :17:07. | :17:14. | |
tunnel. I asked him, will you be in charge next season? You said yes. -- | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
he said yes. I think you have to give a manager a trans window. He | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
came in after the transfer window in January. It was a ship on its way | :17:26. | :17:33. | |
down. Felix Magath in charge of fallen, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
charge of Cardiff, will that be the case in August? It is a difficult | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
one. With Colligan Solskjaer and Cardiff in general, I think he | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
touched on it himself, they have been challenging at the top of the | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
Championship for some time. They have experience of the league. They | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
know how it will go next season. There is a less experience that in | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
Fulham 's ranks. Going back to the managers, I think Solskjaer will | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
stay. He will have a good go at it next season to try and get them back | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
up. There will be a question or Felix Magath. They have the youth | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
structure in place and they have not really brought these talented | :18:19. | :18:20. | |
players we keep hearing about through. It might be next season | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
they can establish them. It will be on Justin to see how that goes. An | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
interesting summer awaits, as usual. St James's Park. The Newcastle fans | :18:32. | :18:42. | |
walking out. A lot was made of this protest. It was not en masse but | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
there was a steady stream and they made their feelings known. It was | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
ironic. It was the Cardiff the cup changed Newcastle 's fortunes. The | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
Newcastle fans wanted a good cup run. It did not really work out for | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
them on that day and since then they have gone on a horrendous run since | :19:06. | :19:11. | |
the turn of the year. It is just not worked. Stoke city, they are set for | :19:12. | :19:19. | |
their first top ten finish. Nobody thought it could get better than it | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
was under Tony Pulis but it has. I would disagree psyche. There was a | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
feeling last season that Tony Pulis had taken them as far as they could | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
go. He kept empty as relegation but there were not | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
go. He kept empty as relegation but interviewing Stoke | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
go. He kept empty as relegation but muggle fans at the start | :19:43. | :19:42. | |
go. He kept empty as relegation but season. Loads of respect for Tony | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
Pulis. It is a difficult task. Mark Hughes is coming into a club that | :19:52. | :19:53. | |
has had one man in charge for a long Hughes is coming into a club that | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
time. I think he has done very well. If they win next weekend they will | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
be guaranteed top ten finish. I think there are signs they are going | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
in the right way. Moving to Sunderland. They will be in the top | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
17. And that is all that matters. Gus Poyet said they needed a miracle | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
and he got it. Yes, special, the right time. A moment that we were | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
desperate for points. I think the way we came here and not | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
desperate for points. I think the game very well but we score and to | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
play the game we know is better for us. We keep believing. The boys have | :20:35. | :20:36. | |
been outstanding. It has us. We keep believing. The boys have | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
hard. People do not realise from the outside how hard it was for us every | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
day. We need one more win and we will be secure. Miracles happen. It | :20:47. | :21:01. | |
has been an incredible few weeks. Ever since he used that word | :21:02. | :21:02. | |
miracle, they got Ever since he used that word | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
Manchester city. They have a victory at Manchester 's were not reunited. | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
-- Manchester United. He has at Manchester 's were not reunited. | :21:13. | :21:21. | |
fantastic job. It was apparent from an early stage that he was improving | :21:22. | :21:29. | |
and an improvement on Paolo Di Canio. He had them playing in a | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
better way. He brought players in from the cold and had them looking | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
like a team again. Then it all seemed to unravel around the time of | :21:38. | :21:43. | |
the league cup final. It looked like they were drifting towards | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
relegation. I was there that night that they scored two in ten minutes | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
against Manchester City. That seemed to be the start of it. Even then, at | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
that point, it seemed like they had a huge amount to do to turn it | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
around. And yet they have gone to Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford. It | :22:01. | :22:08. | |
really is amazing. There is this slight cloud possibly with the story | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
about... Norwich, Fulham, Cardiff possibly mounting a legal challenge | :22:16. | :22:23. | |
over the fielding of an illegible player earlier this season. Can you | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
see that going anywhere? I would be surprised if it succeeded. Generally | :22:28. | :22:34. | |
the Premier League are very guarded and they do not like to even | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
consider docking points. I think they would do that is an absolute | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
last resort. They did not wait with West Ham and Carlos tethers a few | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
years ago. I would be surprised if a legal challenge was successful. I | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
think those three clubs are entitled to ask the question. We shall see. | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
Manchester United, guess what, they are going through another period of | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
transition. It turns out that David Moyes was not doing such a bad job | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
or after all. It was not just him that was the problem. The players | :23:08. | :23:15. | |
have gone off the boil. It is not just the David Moyes factor. It | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
looks like Louis van Gaal is a certainty now and they need that | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
type of strong character. I know there was a strong sentiment from | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
fans to give Ryan Giggs a go. But last year was the sentimental | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
appointment. They now need an authoritarian toucan in. I think | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
there was that point last week when rain Rooney was calling him dig CND | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
in the interview. They need a schoolmaster approach now. Where | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
does that live Ryan Giggs and the Class of '92? Different roles for | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
them? Is there a role at all for Ryan Giggs and will he want it? Alan | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
Shearer touched on that last night. What is his position going to be. It | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
will be difficult for Ryan Giggs to suddenly say, I will do a coaching | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
job, or even continue playing. It will be interesting to see how Louis | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
van Gaal has that British ship a band running or if Ryan Giggs will | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
leave the club -- that relationship up and running. This is a man, a | :24:22. | :24:29. | |
disciplinarian. There is already talk of Arjen Robben coming in. I am | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
sure that Robin van Persie is delighted with the news. I think it | :24:36. | :24:40. | |
will be nerve wracking for United supporters. When I am hearing these | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
names mentioned of players, why would these players leave Bayern | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
Munich for Manchester United when they cannot offer Champions League | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
football? Obviously, they are a huge club and we all know that, but they | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
are the least attractive that they have been to players in years. | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
Unless they are going to show Manchester City type wages... I get | :25:06. | :25:17. | |
the feeling that they are desperate to go out and make a statement and | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
sign one of these huge world-class players, but it has to be the right | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
one. It has to be one that fixes many would grow one of the many | :25:27. | :25:35. | |
deficiencies. I do not know. It seems like Louis van Gaal would be | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
the guy to drag them forward and make sure they finish in the top for | :25:40. | :25:45. | |
next season. But I do not see what the long-term strategy is. One issue | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
I can see is he will be the manager of the Dutch in the World Cup. At | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
best, he will be starting a job in July but it could even be the first | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
week in July. Is that not the mistake that was made last summer in | :26:01. | :26:07. | |
leaving things to late? He has to be appointed now with the proviso he is | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
working in the background but can he do that when he is in charge of | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
Holland at the World Cup? Going back to what Oliver was saying, players | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
go and play for managers. Manchester United not being in the Champions | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
League, but they play for managers. If Louis van Gaal comes calling, | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
they want to go and play for him. That is the thing. It is that stage | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
of the season when we talk about who will, to the Premier League. Those | :26:35. | :26:42. | |
in the play-offs are out by a month. Plans are already afoot at Burnley. | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
Where is your money in the play-offs? I would have to say | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
Wigan, considering the run that they have been on. I am problem recycling | :26:54. | :27:06. | |
bias. -- probably slightly biased. There is huge pressure on Harry | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
Redknapp at QPR. Ryton have got themselves in with that great | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
performers yesterday. -- Brighton. It is so open. I would not want to | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
predict anything. I think maybe slightly Wigan, considering the form | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
they have been in. What a day in the Championship yesterday, at the top | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
and the bottom. So much drama. This is why I think four foot pole fans | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
-- football fans, there is always an -- football fans, there is always an | :27:34. | :27:41. | |
escape route. For burning, you would just have thought going into that | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
game, the way the game progressed, during the match, it was all going | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
against them, the scenes on the screens at the fantastic -- for | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
Birmingham. And next season, someone else will be in that addition. -- | :27:55. | :28:06. | |
position. For Lee Clark, I knew Lee Clark as a player is a lively and | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
bubbly character. In management, I have seen him becoming dour, not a | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
lot of humour about him. To see him like a little kid again at the end | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
yesterday was good to see. Yes, an angry little kid! Nine or ten months | :28:19. | :28:27. | |
of pent-up anger and fury and tension being let out at the final | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
whistle and sprinting towards the fans to celebrate. It is the | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
emotions of that final day. It must have been an absolute roller-coaster | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
for him and the players and the fans who have been through a terrible | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
time the last couple of years. Great for them that they have stayed up | :28:47. | :28:49. | |
and hopefully they can finally start rebuilding. A big club avoiding the | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
drop. What about Bristol Rovers? Right at the bottom. It is almost | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
unthinkable, they are effectively a non-league club. Yes, such a big | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
club getting relegated, the way in which they did as well. You look | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
through the whole season and they have not been good enough. I have | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
seen them play a couple of times this season and think they have good | :29:14. | :29:16. | |
layers in the side and should not be down where they are but if you are | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
not getting the results, confidence goes against you and the turnaround | :29:21. | :29:23. | |
at Northampton are produced, that is unbelievable. Everyone questioned | :29:24. | :29:33. | |
his sanity joining them. Full credit to him. He has turned the club | :29:34. | :29:39. | |
around. They were dead and buried. To turn them around anyway he has | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
done, he deserves so much respect and some accolade for what he has | :29:44. | :29:51. | |
done. Wycombe Wanderers are safe as well. I love the drama that we get | :29:52. | :29:54. | |
at the end, in the Football League. We could have a double, with Brendan | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
Rodgers and Nigel Worthington being cousins. That is one of the | :30:00. | :30:02. | |
remarkable thing is one of the remarkable things that has been | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
overlooked. Leak two from international management. -- League | :30:06. | :30:14. | |
Two. It has pushed domestic names down the leagues, with international | :30:15. | :30:18. | |
names coming in. Not necessarily a bad thing, if you can have a manager | :30:19. | :30:22. | |
that has experience in the Premier League managing at a lower level, | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
it's good for the clubs. They are getting people that are used to | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
proper structures, professional ways of doing things. I still don't know | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
how they managed to get him, somehow. Let's go from Brendan | :30:33. | :30:37. | |
Rodgers's cousin to somebody that was once his boss, Jose Mourinho. | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
Chelsea are in action against Norwich City, with their title hopes | :30:42. | :30:45. | |
still, at the moment, very much alive. Their two commentators is | :30:46. | :30:54. | |
Steve Wilson. -- to commentate is Steve Wilson. They could go top, but | :30:55. | :31:01. | |
most people are ruling them out? It's a strange one. They could go | :31:02. | :31:04. | |
top with one game to play, and yet nobody is getting entirely excited | :31:05. | :31:10. | |
about that for obvious reasons. For Chelsea to win the title they need | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
Manchester City and Liverpool to lose a game. It's very hard to see | :31:14. | :31:17. | |
Manchester City dropping any points at home to Aston Villa or West Ham, | :31:18. | :31:22. | |
let alone actually losing. So, it's very early here, we don't kick off | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
until four o'clock, so there are not many fans around at the moment. | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
Business as usual for the groundsman and everybody else. I don't think | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
there is any great expectation that Chelsea are going to end up with the | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
Premier League title this year. Next year is a different matter. They | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
will invest. We are respecting Diego Costa to come here, there is talk | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
about Paulinho from Tottenham. A big season for Chelsea. Jose Mourinho | :31:49. | :31:52. | |
has not said it will be necessarily a headline grabbing summer, but I | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
think they will do a lot business. Next season is a big one for him and | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
them, you would expect them to win something next year. Didn't win | :32:01. | :32:03. | |
anything last year, may not win anything this year. What are the | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
odds of him going three seasons without a trophy? What about | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
Norwich? They have to win today, don't they? Can you make a case for | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
them at all? I mean, Sunderland did it. I'm struggling. I've seen quite | :32:16. | :32:22. | |
a lot of Norwich in recent weeks. I thought they played really well for | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
about 70 minutes at Carrow Road against Liverpool. They gave | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
Liverpool a real scare in that game and ended up losing 3-2. But it was | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
an unrecognisable performance a week later at Old Trafford. They looked | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
like a beaten team. The unfortunate thing for Norwich is that they have | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
to win. We are not saying there is any wriggle room for them, because | :32:45. | :32:47. | |
there isn't. They've got to win this game. With the best of intentions, I | :32:48. | :32:53. | |
can't see it. Nobody is there to be penning any blame at Neal Adams's | :32:54. | :32:57. | |
door, he came in with five games to go and I think there were looking | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
for some kind of balance in that big game against Fulham and they did not | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
get it. It was mission impossible from then. I would be very | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
surprised, and I apologise to Canaries fans travelling today, but | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
I would be surprised if relegation isn't done and dusted by tonight. | :33:15. | :33:19. | |
Sitting on the friends the microphones, beautifully! Simon is | :33:20. | :33:28. | |
at Arsenal, we can get the Arsenal match in as well. You would expect | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
them to go all guns blazing, but you have reservations about how they | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
have been playing? There was a lot of criticism, last weekend, a lot of | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
suggestion from Liverpool fans that they won it in the wrong way, it's | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
not the correct way to play football. I don't buy that, there is | :33:44. | :33:47. | |
no bad way to win a football match. There is a bad way to play for all, | :33:48. | :33:51. | |
as a Newcastle fan pointed out to me, but not a bad way to win a game. | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
We were in Munich and saw Real Madrid absolutely demolish them. Not | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
playing an altogether dissimilar side to Chelsea, they defended very | :34:00. | :34:02. | |
deep on the edge of their own penalty area, central midfielder sat | :34:03. | :34:06. | |
in front of the centre half. The difference is the quality of attack, | :34:07. | :34:12. | |
the pace of Gareth Bale, Ronaldo and Benzema, it made them of devastating | :34:13. | :34:15. | |
on the counterattack and better to watch. I think if Mourinho had | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
better strikers and wingers, the whole style becomes a more | :34:21. | :34:23. | |
attractive prospect. If you look at storage, Suarez at Liverpool, we've | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
mentioned Dzeko and Aguero, that is the sort of calibre of striker he | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
doesn't have. If he gets that ride over the summer, the whole picture | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
comes together. We almost need to have a hybrid of Arsene Wenger and | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
Jose Mourinho, to cross between Stamford Bridge and the Emirates. | :34:43. | :34:45. | |
Arsenal are unhappy they are not defensive enough and don't shut up. | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
Chelsea are unhappy that they are to dour. What is the happy medium? I | :34:53. | :34:57. | |
guess it is Manchester City, who are top, scored a lot of goals and not | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
conceded as many as Liverpool or Arsenal. If you look at Chelsea in | :35:01. | :35:06. | |
the second half of the season, it's very interesting what Mourinho said | :35:07. | :35:09. | |
on Friday, when he was talking about how, at a certain point in the | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
season, which I would suggest is December, he decided he needed to | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
forget about this evolution of the team into something younger and more | :35:17. | :35:20. | |
expensive and a more controlled, probably more boring, attritional | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
type of football. That has been quite obvious. I know we can say | :35:27. | :35:32. | |
with a better striker they would win more games, score more goals, I | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
think that is true. And I never think life looks like a picnic for a | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
strike at Chelsea. The quality of the service has never been good. The | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
fullbacks don't come forward, they get little from midfield unless | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
Frank Lampard is there. We have had Hazard and Oscar having their work | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
rate question. I think Mourinho has to have a more cavalier attitude in | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
that team. That is what Roman Abramovich has been looking for, he | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
did not buy it to be dull and attritional? He plays to the | :36:08. | :36:15. | |
strength of the squad. The centre halves have been protected. When | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
I've seen them play, the back four is quite rigid. If one full-back | :36:21. | :36:24. | |
goes, a central midfielder drops in. So, this is where it is difficult | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
for them. If you have not got a striker scoring the goals, or where | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
the movement is good enough for the players to play him through, the one | :36:34. | :36:36. | |
thing I would say is that he played to their strength. Perhaps that | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
Atletico game is one game too far. No matter what Brendan Rodgers says, | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
you set a team of one-way, to play a certain way, set up your side and be | :36:47. | :36:50. | |
organised, difficult to play against... You don't think it's easy | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
to coach? No, you are trusting your players. One player does one thing | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
wrong and it comes trembling chilly crumbling down. One play out of | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
position for the first goal against Atletico, then they conceded and | :37:04. | :37:11. | |
they were not chasing the game. You make a case for Norwich today? I | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
can't. I really can't. I've seen a lot of them, it comes down to | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
strikers. Van Wolfswinkel, this is a guy who scored 25 goals over the | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
last four seasons. Last summer he was in the Dutch squad. He looked, | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
on paper, a good purchase. One grass he has been atrocious and cannot | :37:32. | :37:35. | |
score a goal. Look at Swansea, they have stretched away from relegation | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
trouble because they have Wilfried Bony. 19 goals in his last 20 games, | :37:40. | :37:46. | |
ridiculous. That is the firepower that Norwich have not had. Connor | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
Wickham, finding a bit of form, getting Sunderland out of trouble. | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
No striker has found a run of form for Norwich. Sorry, I can't make the | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
case. From Norwich apparently getting stuff that Stamford Bridge | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
to the action at Selhurst Park tonight. Liverpool are still in the | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
title race, facing Crystal Palace. Let's hear from Brendan Rodgers, | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
full of praise for the job his opposite number has done. I think | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
he's done an outstanding job, really galvanised the team. I watched them | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
recently at Everton and they defended very, very well. Players on | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
the counterattack with speed that can hurt you, Puncheon, he's got a | :38:23. | :38:30. | |
real spirit amongst them. He's done an outstanding job. As I said, | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
looking to keep them in the beak, which he has done, it's been a great | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
effort. Great effort from Tony Pulis. He's got manage of the month, | :38:40. | :38:47. | |
there has been a debate about Manager of the Season. Is it down to | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
those two? Those two and perhaps Roberto Martinez. Steve Bruce? There | :38:55. | :39:00. | |
have been a lot of managers that have done a good job. Those two, | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
Rogers and Tony Pulis, Liverpool, it looks like they will fall slightly | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
short, most people will expect that now. The fact they have scored 96 | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
goals, 80 points with two games remaining, they've had a wonderful | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
season. We can say there is no wrong way to play football, but Liverpool | :39:22. | :39:24. | |
have played the right way, I think. They have done it with a group of | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
players that nobody really have them down as title challengers at all. | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
This was the season, if it was going to happen, with Manchester United | :39:34. | :39:39. | |
not being involved. This is what will be killing the Liverpool fans | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
from the inside. It is possible Maxis and everybody is going to | :39:44. | :39:45. | |
rebuild, Manchester City are going to spend more money, when will they | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
next get this close? They beat Crystal Palace 6-0, suddenly people | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
will think... It's not going to happen. Well, it could happen! I | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
have been at Stoke, when they beat Manchester United. I have been at | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
Crystal Palace when they beat Chelsea. You can take nothing for | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
granted. That is why it has been a fantastic season. They are going to | :40:09. | :40:13. | |
take it to the last day, at least? I would think so. I can't see them not | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
winning against Crystal Palace. An interesting last weekend of the | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
season. This is what we wanted, we wanted it to be like this. And | :40:22. | :40:24. | |
Chester city don't do things the easy way, they proved that against | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
QPR a couple of years ago. They've had a roller-coaster ride. I am sure | :40:29. | :40:35. | |
they are going to have twists and turns. I liked sunnier Nasri's | :40:36. | :40:39. | |
reaction, last night. With a nice smile, you have a smile that lights | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
up football when he is in the mood. People put that lying to me, | :40:44. | :40:47. | |
please, no. We can't have another repeat of Queens Park Rangers. I | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
tell you what, you would take it. You can see it happening. Well, in a | :40:52. | :40:57. | |
way. One of the things about that game against QPR was that QPR were | :40:58. | :41:01. | |
scrapping for points until the very end. Villa and West Ham, I don't | :41:02. | :41:09. | |
think they are the toughest home games you could have in that | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
position. Having been through that, having tripped up a few times this | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
season and finally got things back in their own hands, I think most | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
people would expect City to win these games and not be swept aside. | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
You're not buying that old wives tale, when you play against a team | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
that has nothing to play for, they are relaxed and give you a harder | :41:29. | :41:37. | |
test? It would be a surprise. If Aston Villa West Ham pulled | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
something out of the bag, they are not teams that have scored a hat | :41:41. | :41:43. | |
full of goals this season. They are not teams that look like they are | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
going to go and cause a sensation. Manchester City are probably a | :41:49. | :41:51. | |
little Budweiser for the experienced two years ago when they came so | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
close to blowing it. The point was made to me yesterday about | :41:56. | :41:58. | |
Pellegrini, people say he is so often the bridesmaid in management. | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
We are so blinkered to think about European football? In South America | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
he has titles galore, the second most decorated club manager. I think | :42:06. | :42:15. | |
his idea was to get them through the Champions League. He got them out of | :42:16. | :42:17. | |
the group stage, not particularly great after they got through. That | :42:18. | :42:22. | |
was his remit. He signed quality players in the summer. They are | :42:23. | :42:25. | |
progressing and going forward again. Overall, probably going back to | :42:26. | :42:32. | |
teams like Everton, there was a lot of negativity around Everton's game | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
yesterday, whether or not they were going to roll over. They didn't do | :42:36. | :42:38. | |
that. They went up them. It was an open game. I can't see teams doing | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
that, but I think Manchester City will win the last two games. City | :42:44. | :42:50. | |
for you for the title? Connor? I think so, they had been in | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
high-pressure situations before. It is possible Aston Villa could turn | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
them over midweek, absolutely. The only time I've seen them struggle | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
was restored Palace around Christmas, when they needed a late | :43:01. | :43:04. | |
goal. If it is still 0-0 at half-time, things will get edgy. But | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
they score early and turn teams over. That is what I was alluding | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
to. I can foresee is getting to the last game of the season, 0-0 at the | :43:16. | :43:19. | |
Etihad and Liverpool winning? Almost hoping for it! With City, again, | :43:20. | :43:28. | |
they do have the individuals to dig them out. In the second half of the | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
season, I don't think Manchester City, as a team, have always | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
performed to that level. They have always had an individual to step | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
forward. Yaya Toure, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko. We could have gone on for | :43:41. | :43:46. | |
ever, but that is your lot for today. My thanks to Oliver, Connor, | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
and Kevin. Live text commentary is already up and running on the BBC | :43:53. | :43:55. | |
website. Enjoy your bank holiday. | :43:56. | :43:57. |