11/09/2016 MOTD2 Extra

Good afternoon and a warm welcome to Match of the Day to Extra on BBC

Two, five live and the BBC sport website. Joining me Hull City

defender Curtis Davies and former Norwich, Celtic striker Chris Sutton

and Andy Dunn generalist with the daily Mirror. We'd love to hear from

you, get in touch with us using our hashtag or send us text. This is

what is coming up. Advantage pep as City beat juice's United at Old

Trafford, Liverpool but four passed the champions at their new stand,

Watford come from behind to beat West Ham and Arsenal leave it late

to beat Southampton. The back pages, not surprisingly, focus on the

Manchester derby, the Sun says that the united star is bottled it,

Andy's paper, the Sunday Mirror, claims that Mourinho raged at the

referee after the defeat and that Zlatan is in line for a new contract

already. The male on Sunday also concentrates on Mourinho's theory.

We'll talk about the Derby in a second, first let's hear from both

managers starting with Pep Guardiola. The game was open until

the end. The first half we were better, the second half, they pushed

a lot, it was so difficult, they opened the game and when you open

the game you had many acts of four against three and five against four,

we did not finish absolutely, we were not brilliant in that moment,

for the last part, but for us, to go to Old Trafford, one of the best

stadiums in the world, and to win the game, it's good. To play these

matches you have to be completely ready to do it. In terms of the

speed of your thinking and decision making. We have had a few players

who are not at that level. We lost easy balls. We let them press us and

recover the ball is easy circumstances for us, we paid for

the mistakes. First, it's great to see a good Manchester derby after

what seemed to be a sabbatical. You were there, Andy, in your paper, pep

announcing his arrival in the Premier League with a twin.

Obviously not his first game here, yet it felt so significant, like he

was saying, that's what I'm all about, as if we did not know

already, even in a big game in an intimidating venue like Old Trafford

with a huge derby match and loads of hype, it's doesn't matter, this is

the way I'm going to play, my keeper will be halfway up the pitch and

will spread the ball around, mice and a half will take risks and if he

makes mistakes, so be it, we will get the ball and we will play. Every

single player encouraged to get on the ball and play. It is idealistic.

And great to see it, something we haven't seen in the Premier League.

If we had any doubt this is what we're going to get from Guardian,

this commitment to play in a certain way, if it goes wrong and it almost

did yesterday, they deserved to win, they were a shade fortunate but if

it goes wrong he will carry on playing that. He won't sacrifices

principles. It'll be a fascinating narrative to watch play out. He said

just three points afterwards, it was more than that, it was the

statement, the manner in which they made the statement, they dominated

their biggest rival. Did you see the game at all? I got to see some on

the coach, you got to see City keeping the ball. It was so strange

to see, however well they played, the way this Court, a big boom up

the pitch, simple flick on and he goes on and finishes it. A good

player although United will be disappointed with the way they

conceded. It was Route one yet the keeper started it by giving the

short pass to Kolorov. It was a short pass, although it was under

pressure, a short pass and the big ball up. And Kevin De Bruyne is so

shop getting up there. Nearly would one! All the talk before the match

was about City and their talisman, Sergio Aguero, this disadvantage

they had in the battle of height with United having taller players. I

think John Stones was their tallest player but that didn't come to

fruition. It didn't because Manchester United were played off

the park. Mourinho got his selection wrong, Rashford should have started.

He made an impact when he came on in the second half. The turning point

which got Manchester United back in the game was the error from Claudio

Bravo. If they had gone 2-0 down, who knows what the full-time school

would have been. Interesting that size issue. Guardiola said

afterwards, I said to my defenders, David Silva, Kevin De Bruyne, you

will need a chair to defend against this, they were getting so many high

balls towards Marouane Fellaini, it was a bit of a sly dig at juice.

Great spirit yesterday yet perhaps a sly dig. -- a sly dig at Jose

Mourinho. Interesting that you mention Marcus Rashford, given what

he did with the England U21s in midweek did you want to seems Dodd?

I honestly thought he would. When he came on, he and Mkhitaryan wanted to

change the game against us, of positive and running for winners,

having scored the winner against us, to go off and play U21 's, and Scott

hat-trick, that's confidence. I thought he'd come into the game

because he has shown that he isn't scared of big games. Jose protests

that he does believe in you. I'm not entirely sure that he does. You

always have reservations about starting the young players in games

like that. Even after the game that Curtis mentions, I was at the

Manchester United game and made that impact, scoring the winner, and in

the press Conference afterwards he was pressed if Rashford would play

the next game especially considering what he did in the Derby and was

told, he's done OK coming off the bench, let's leave it at that, but

that must've been a mistake. When someone is in form surely you must

play him? His tail is up... It is still a hat-trick. Still hat-trick,

still competitive football. You could see the impact he made when he

came on because Mourinho got it wrong, Lingard and Mick Tyree and

were not at the races. Do you think Jose Mourinho accounts hat-trick for

the U21s as valuable currency? I bet he doesn't. Surely he values a

player with high confidence? He'd seen the last league game back home

and had seen a good performance from his team before Rashford came on. He

played well before that and Rashford made a difference when he came on so

Mourinho must have thought, we have played well without him, that was

his first taste of league action, do I really need a measure to throw him

in? I think it did backfire and the selection of Lingard was

questionable. Mkhitaryan you could argue made a good impact in his

previous league game. Will they still leave him out now? Mkhitaryan,

or Rashford? Rashford. I think they probably will. For a game of that

size I still think he sees him as a player who could come on against

players who are getting tired, last 20 minutes and make a big impact.

Did we see Mourinho tactically outdone by Guardiola? You could say

that. Sometimes you have to take your hat off. Manchester City were

absolutely superb. We talked about how Lingard wasn't at the races,

Mkhitaryan... And they were picked off. And this is early days from

Guardian. He's just come in. It wasn't just about the three points,

it was the manner of their performance, so impressive. What was

interesting was the pre-match interview with Mourinho when he

talked about making these changes and bringing in Lingard and

Mkhitaryan. It made you think that he was focusing more on the

opposition than on the strength of his side and I thought that little

change, that new ones, told a lot. I think that's always been his trick.

But as the manager of a home side in the Derby you would expect him to

take the initiative? Possibly. That has not always been the case in the

past. You've often seen Mourinho win games without having the majority of

possession. I think he knew that would happen yesterday that his team

would not have the majority of possession and he picked his team

accordingly. He isn't a negative coach as such but his priority is to

negate the dangers in front of him first and then win the game

afterwards. That is what he's always come across as and very

successfully. He was clearly disappointed. He said his players

were not at the races, he is demanding more. I think it's early

days, a different team, his signings in the main have been exceptional,

it is just that sometimes you lose to your biggest rivals. He could not

have accounted for how off the pace Mkhitaryan was. I was surprised that

some players played when they were injured on international duty. They

were just hunted down every time. It wasn't just Mkhitaryan and Lingard

caught in possession is a many times, it was Wayne Rooney as well.

Not the first time that he's been critical of his players but if you

were on the receiving end, how would that have gone down in the dressing

room? I think you need to accept it, this is the man who picks the team,

who put you in a big, big game and if you let him know he will let you

know about it. You would rather that than him saying publicly, the big,

my players have done this, done that for me, you would rather know so

that you can go and work on it and hopefully be back in his plan.

Nothing worse than upsetting the manager! Do you think much thought

was given from Mourinho to what he was going to say before he said it,

knowing that some players would accept it and others not? From what

I saw of the interview he never named anybody, he said, my players

know which ones let me down so I'm guessing he told them in the

changing room and then he's gone on TV and said it. You will know if you

put in a shift or not. What is also interesting is, it is what state she

is at in how long he's been at the club and what the club are doing. --

what stage he's in at the club. Chelsea, first season, won the

title, second season, won title, in the third season which did not last,

when he starts criticising the players they will think, hang on a

minute, we have done this, we've done that. And now they feel in a

stronger position about that. No one at the moment would bridle against

him because they feature is in his hands. At that stage, it at Chelsea,

it was not. Players are honest, you have to man up a bit, if you have a

bad game you have a bad one. It doesn't always work like that,

Chris. I think it does. Most of the players I played with more honest,

if you have a bad game, you expected. If you take the glory and

the pats on the back, if you are poor you have to get around that as

well. Sometimes players use it as a smoke screen, you can come to an

interview and say, we did not do this, we didn't do that. The

elephant in the room is to say, I wasn't good. I remember you're

talking about your debut. Wasn't that the Birmingham? Aston Villa.

Guardiola is a different type, he just gets rid of your! Blur he

claims that Bravo had a fantastic game! Will talk about Claudio Bravo

in a minute. Big stage, big game, big players, Paul Paul Pogba, Zlatan

Ibrahimovic to both relatively quiet. As it was, Zlatan scored his

fifth of the season, it gives an insight, you had the privilege or

maybe not the right word to use, of marking a man of his calibre already

this season! I think, the way he plays he will never make a massive

impact on the game if he doesn't score. And he did score, which was

his job. He's a player that leads the line, stays up there, he will

only drop off and not get involved when they haven't got the ball, when

he gets it in the boxing needs to score because there are so many good

players around him, they should feed him and therefore he shouldn't have

to do much outside the box. A great finish from Zlatan considering that

it emanated from a spill from Claudio Bravo. Heaney 's spirit and

the pace off him, he won't run from behind and run channels -- he has

spirit and he needs pace. It's hard to get the ball from him but you

need people going beyond him. It was an Erik Compton finish. I can't

remember who it was against but almost a carbon copy. This ties in

with what Chris said, he was a bit static yesterday. Not a great deal

of movement. When you are on top, and you have Zlatan Ibrahimovic,

Pogba, Fellaini, City of smaller players who were more agile and

quick to the ball and to possession. They played all around them. We

mentioned the goal by Zlatan, making his debut for Manchester City,

Claudio Bravo, we saw both sides of his game yesterday and this is what

his manager said. . In the last minutes after we

played well in the first half, the second half... That is a real good

thing about his personality and one of the reasons why we played well in

the first half was because he read really well the build-up. His

reaction to the performance and his comments are almost polar opposite

to what Mourinho did in his post-match comments. If city had a

free kick, they were almost five yards from the away line. View was

that far advanced. A lot of people during the game were saying Joe Hart

was thinking, it should be made. If Joe Hart was watching that, it was

confirmation that he can never played again. He can't, because he

cannot play that role. But it wasn't unlucky, it was rubbish goalkeeping.

He dropped it, he let Manchester United back in the game and he

should have been sent off. We talk about City's performance but he was

desperately poor. It is OK having a goalkeeper who can play but you also

need a goalkeeper who can catch the ball. I think pep had to say what he

did because such a big deal has been made of this. You got rid of

England's number one, who has been is city's number one for the last

seven years or whatever it is, so if he didn't back this keeper that he's

paid a lot of money for an made such a big deal out of, obviously... It

is a lot of money for a keeper who was 33, 17 million. We know he's

going to bring a lot of entertainment because that's the way

he's always kept goal. But Guardiola's argument is that if he

does make the odd mistake, what he brings in terms of starting attacks,

the sweeper keeper and actually being almost a quarterback figure,

directing movements from their, he says that's worth more than... That

compensates for that mistake. If he keeps dropping crosses are making

errors, will he keep him in? Piquant. If he drops crosses every

week and make Sarah... Even if he drops a cross, the chances are that

City are still going to win that game. You can't have a liability.

I'm not saying he is but there comes a time, if he keeps making mistakes,

and he must've thought Joe Hart wasn't good enough for a reason. Joe

Hart has made mistakes in the last season or so but he's got him in for

a reason and he can't back him if he keeps making mistakes. I think he

thinks he will gain you more points than he would lose because you

shouldn't have to do too much defending or goalkeeping such as a

city keeper. They're going to be times when he is going to be to show

how good he is but more often they will have 60 present possession. If

he can make those few passes that get you on an attack, he will maybe

gain more points than he loses. How do centre halves like that sort of

keeper? Are you talking about keepers who drop crosses? The way he

plays, if this is the way your team plays, as soon as you get the ball,

the centre halves will go that way, the centre midfielders, so we should

have four or five options on the ball but when you are talking about

the Rooney incident, which we will come onto, that is when sometimes

the need to be a situation where you say, just get it up the field,

because he's got one player closing it down, Ian is chasing his touch

and makes a tackle with it. It is under debate whether it is a penalty

or not. On the Rooney incident, should he have been sent off? I set

myself, I'm a centre-half and if I took that bad touch into centre

midfield and leapt like that into a tackle, I think it is a red card for

me so I don't see why it would be different for a goalkeeper. What

other players told to do in terms of tackling? It is seen as a reckless

movement. He doesn't go too footed into the challenge, he gets inside

foot and wins the ball, so for me as a centre-half it is a good tackle as

such but what the rules say is that that seems a reckless tackle, you're

not in control because both feet of the ground. We all know what he was

thinking. He thought, oh, no, and went lunging but it was a penalty

and a red card. Let's wrap this all because we've already mentioned

briefly about your debut. It wasn't the best, neither was it for Henrikh

Mkhitaryan but explain what happened at Villa. I have been waiting to get

my chance to play and have been there about two months and we played

against Leicester in the cup so I didn't have a good game. We lost the

game 2-1 and I went on and said it as it was. I call that the pub

player. That stuck with me. Talking about Leicester and the reigning

defending champions getting stuck at Anfield to Liverpool. It really sent

out a message of intent to. These are the thoughts of Claudio Ranieri.

Today the pool played so, so well and everything they tried to do was

OK. They were very, very spirited and everything was fantastic. Not so

good for us. We agreed our chance. Have you learned lessons today? You

have to understand that football should be together and suffered

together. It has to be more strong. It was almost the perfect afternoon

for Liverpool. They witnessed the demolishing of the champions in

Leicester and it could have been by a lot more. I am a big fan of Jurgen

Klopp, a big fan of his style of play. There is risk in it but they

are scintillating going forward. I think they will finish in the top

four. Curtis Davies, whole cities central defender, they do but like

the most entertaining of the teams but there was almost that sense of

unpredictability. I think it showed from their first three games. Win

one, draw one, lose one. They had 80 present possession against Burnley

and lost 2-0 so it just shows that the way they play is obviously quite

entertaining and they're likely to get goals from it if they play

against a team that is willing to open up but if they play against a

team that is just going to sit there and try and stifle them, it's a bit

more difficult. Defensively, they still look a little uncertain. I

wouldn't be surprised if he is able to feel the same. He's struggling.

He is looking a little bit vulnerable, as was shown by the goal

yesterday but I agree with what has been said. Going forward, he has a

whole wodge of combinations and it is a question of picking the right

one. We saw a different one yesterday and Manny looked

absolutely dynamic. It is keeping those players happy and finding the

right one and you're right, the consistency. We saw it last season.

Eight loss to someone like Watford... That's what we've got to

try and eradicate this season. In the Burnley game, they didn't have

that option where Burnley were just sitting in and narrowed up. They

were saying, through the balls in and we'll deal with that so that's

going to be their problem but they're brilliant to watch. They

deserved to beat Tottenham. They probably just edged that game. I was

at Old Trafford, rather than Anfield yesterday, but from what I

understand it was a great atmosphere and we see how Jurgen Klopp

generates the atmosphere and milks the atmosphere. It is a great

atmosphere background and that can only help them. It is so competitive

at the top end this season but I can see them at fourth place. We see so

many great attacking players for Liverpool. Daniel Sturridge played

particularly well. Adam Lallana, great for him to get amongst the

goals because if anything, we know what he can bring to the table, a

tireless player, technically very gifted. The only one thing lacking

in the locker is the goals. I would agree with that. He's such an

intelligent footballer and a tremendous striker. Liverpool didn't

bring him in for his goals tally, they brought him into bee that link

and that person who that awareness but he will want to score more

goals. What is interesting is when Jurgen Klopp first came and Lallana

came off after 80 minutes and he looked like he literally fell into

Jurgen Klopp's arms, it looked like he had run a marathon. Furlana was

so intense and intent on fulfilling this idea of having to press and run

for the entire game, what he's also good at, that link play, and he is a

decent finish on his day. That almost got put to the site and only

now he's confident he is part of clop's plans, we may see him express

himself a bit more. How hard is it to defend against a tame like

Liverpool -- team? It is difficult but a team like us would set up more

solid, like we did against Manchester United because that is

how we are good. It would be difficult because when players are

moving all over, it is tough but ultimately, it is never easy in the

Premier League against any team but I think with Manet this year

particularly, he is going to be the one that has stepped it up a notch.

If you can keep storage fit, he is the best English striker for me. He

has got something different to the rest it up he can open up again but

they are going to be very difficult to play against. For Leicester, it

is two defeats from their four games. What has happened to them

defensively? Is it more than just N'Golo Kante leaving? I think that

played a big part but what did we really expect? I don't think any of

us, in our heart of hearts, really thought Leicester could do what they

did last season this season and are they suffering a bit of a hangover?

Yes, they are. I think they will be top half and that will be a

successful season. They were just outplayed. I wouldn't say they

showed naivete but they were far too open. I agree when Chris says a

hangover. We put so much emphasis on the psychological aspect sometimes

but I think dealing with being the champions has probably been not a

shock but they've had to get used to it. I've said this before, I don't

think they are the best pre-season. They went away to Thailand to

celebrate. It was a big programme abroad. They then played PSG and

Barcelona pre-season, where last year they played Manchester City and

one these games at home. They may be made a few of the players think this

was the field in which the art expected to operate it they are only

minor things but I think mentally coming to terms with the fact that

you are champions when you clearly are expected to be takes its toll. I

wonder how much of a bird in the Champions League will be. They've

got a group, we all think they could go through with that but that may

bring its own difficulties. They've had to add players but it is how

they fit into the way that Leicester has always played. If they sign a

player that doesn't quite fit into the way they've played all along,

ultimately it is a mini failure as such because you want to have the

same way you've played to win a championship and the same ethos on

the plate again success and I think they've try change the way they go.

Considering the sticky start Leicester have had, with their next

picture, it is that the kind of thing you would welcome, despite

what has happened? I think with the group they've got they will welcome

mat and they will see it as a massive lift if they can do well

because they've not started in the way they would have liked to but I'm

sure they will be up in the top half and pushing but it is tough for any

team to retain the title, sofa Leicester it is going to be even

more difficult if they can have a good run in the Champions League and

show the confidence I'd will help them.

Leicester play their Champions League game away to club bridge on

Wednesday night. In case you are just joining us on MOTD Extra we

have Chris Sutton, Curtis Davies and Andy Dunn of the Daily Mirror. Let's

focus on your club, last time out, two weeks ago you considered in the

94th minute against Manchester United. You did it this time as a

team to salvage a great point away to Burnley yesterday. 30 time was in

our favour this time! Make you feel that is what is called now. The

United game is disappointing when you

stick it out so long against a team like that who are knocking on the

door, to concede in the 93rd minute was horrible. This week it went in

our favour, we kept going to the end and it took a moment of magic from

Robert Snodgrass to get us to it. I think we deserved it, on the balance

of play and the chances we had we deserved at least a draw but Burnley

has been our bogey ground at Turf Moor so one point is a good point.

Robert Snodgrass has had a good start to the season. A player I rate

highly. I played against him many moons ago! He's always been an

intelligent player. I think if he had another half a yard he be

playing for one of the big boys. A brilliant hat-trick for Scotland in

midweek. A really intelligent player and a stunning free kick. You look

at what he's done, clearly coming back from that injury, you must be

delighted with the way his comeback. We had a joke with him. We said

great kick and he said I was a good player before I got injured! We know

how good he is and we were disappointed to lose him for that

time, but it does seem that now he's at the top level and fully fit he is

getting to grips with it again and showing how good he is. Hat-trick

for Scotland in midweek, all respect to Malta but hat-trick at any level

is good and it's good to see him striving for more. There's been a

resilience about Hull this season, which is why Mickey Phelan will win

Manager of the Month award. We know what the situation was going into

the season. When you go there you feel this resilience. I was there

when United scored, in the dying seconds of the game, that Hull's

resilience was fantastic because Manchester United played very well

that day. They change things around, they tried everything. They only got

that goal late because defensively Hull were magnificent. The man on my

right, a brilliant start to the season from Curtis and from the

whole defence. I dug up this statistic today, the most

competitive team were Hull City, eclipsing the likes of United and

City. You don't believe me? I can see from the look on your face!

Wattage is, I suppose is the type of football might Phelan has

implemented in his time there -- what it shows. We won't be silly and

play from the back every time but we want to keep the ball because

ultimately you give it to the other team, you would have a chance of

scoring. And he wants us to win every game. He wanted us to win the

United game. A big ask but he tries to put positive energy into us.

Don't settle for a draw. Let's go for it and try to win and if we come

up with one point that is good. That has helped us this season. How many

1-2s did you play with the QB yesterday? Just to get the stats up!

Talking about might Phelan, who as Andy says is the August Manager of

the Month which is terrific considering what he inherited in the

summer, still no news of any long-term appointment with him and

that has been going on since July. I expected it to go on past the

transfer window and see if we got the players in that maybe Mick

wanted. We've got them in. And I was hoping that would be done. It's

between the club and his representatives, whatever. I hope it

all gets done because he has been a breath of fresh air and as players

we all want him to stay and sign because his record hasn't been too

bad so far and we want to keep him. Is there a fear among the players

that, should that be a managerial change further down the line with

one Premier League club, they might come looking for his services? The

longer he hasn't got a contract, yes! Because ultimately he's done

well so far and I am sure people would want his services but for us,

as Hull players we would be more worried if somebody came in and took

our job. Don't get me wrong, there are good managers and their but the

way we play, the squad, Mick is used to our players, so if someone else

came in and had to get used to us from now until the end of the season

it might be more difficult.

Embarrassing. What more does he need to do to get the job! Nothing.

Manager of the Month, next month? Isn't it Arsenal next Saturday?

Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea. Seven points out of 12, a fantastic return

considering what people predicted in the summer, how are you enjoying

your football? Really enjoying it, after the gloom of the summer we

were all worried, and injuries to our players that we've already got,

it's proved difficult. The main thing is that we stuck together as a

group, we knew that if we could field and 11 we've had have a chance

of those forced few games and we've done that. Now that we've made this

start and got this call and there is a bit more needed from us because

people will be looking at us as a team that should win a few games

rather than going to places and expecting to be beaten. Long may it

continue! There was a remarkable game in east London, at the London

Stadium, West Ham, from leading 2-0, contrived to lose the match to

Watford, 4-2. The thoughts of Watford captain Troy Deeney, one of

the scorers. We just felt confident going into the second half, I don't

know if it was the two late goals in the first half that put us back

level, we could see they were enjoying themselves before that. We

dug in and got back in the game and we have the mentality that we would

win. A bit of a siege mentality but we need to be more ruthless scoring

more goals. On another day we could have got five or six. What an

incredible game, Watford perspective. It was unbelievable.

West Ham were in reasonable control at 2-0 but Watford deserved to win

the game. Troy 's got a brilliant goal. The really poor defensive

error, but he had so much to do and... Going into half-time at 2-2,

I don't know what Slaven Bilic said at half-time to them but Watford

came back out of the traps and it could have been more than four. The

telling thing that, Troy Deeney says, they were really enjoying

themselves, West Ham. I don't think he meant it as a compliment. He

looked as if they believed that they were coasting, there was a certain

arrogance about them when they were leading by two goals. Sort of old

school against professional players, if you think somebody looking a bit

cocky, you react. Some stronger quotes given by Troy in his

post-match comments. He said there was a point in the game when they

were doing fancy dans and he said he thought they were trying to make

them off a bit. I don't think he was referring to the move from dementia

Payet, sent up on a plate, but Curtis can you relate to what Troy

said? Yes, if it's early in the first half and people are taking the

Mickey you get frustrated but sometimes that works against you

because you start kicking everyone and giving away free kicks and they

get what they want. I'm guessing that, what Watford did, was get in

their faces a bit more, more energy and stuff like that, and I think the

key to it is getting the goal. Get a goal back and suddenly those flicks

don't happen. Try also said, this was interesting that, as a player,

he said, we made sure we put our hand on them. I had not heard that

phrase before. You basically laid your glove on them to stop them the

next time they want to do that flick, maybe they get a little

around their ankles! The fact that they got two goals before half-time

and the momentum then shifted, that's the biggest thing regardless

of them flicking and doing everything, there was only one team

that came back in the second-half confidently. That brings up an

argument, is there a fine line between a team wanting to entertain

the crowd and not taking the Mick out of the opposition? Are you

talking about West Ham? Any team, really. I liked what Troy Deeney. He

galvanised Watford yesterday, I like him as a character, they did get

more aggressive and they took the game from West Ham. West Ham

capitulated. There is a balance, though, if you are too- zero ahead

in a match, it's all about the next goal. And Watford got one goal back

and then they want from strength to strength. Having said that, if West

Ham had got three... But they didn't. Watford deserved to win. Is

there an unwritten rule on showboating amongst professionals?

Absolutely. Totally. You don't like people taking the Mickey. Having

said that, what do to Payet did, was it showboating, yes, was brilliant?

Yes. But you are professional players. Of course you try to get

even. It's just that you have to do it within the rules. Just moving on

to West Ham, three defeats in four in the Premier League and damaging

defeat in Europe. Any pressure on Slaven Bilic at this point? Not at

this point but they will be. They were not in great form towards the

end of season. They had just won four of their 13 Premier League

games, moving to a new stadium, lots of expectation, that will bring

problems on and off the pitch. Teething issues. When you move into

that sort of stadium with that sort of expectation, if you keep losing

you will be under pressure. And they have lost their record signing and

Andy Carroll isn't available so they don't have that second route with

Andy Carroll and I am sure a player like their new signing would have

helped them yesterday. They've got to get Adrian rid of him. Get

Bhavane goal! He was poor yesterday! Swansea versus Chelsea, intriguing

for David Luiz, should he start? I don't think he will. I imagine they

will stay with the same team because they've done so well lately. I'm not

sure it will change their formation if he does. Am sure it would. Going

forward, Antonio Conte probably believes he can change him into a

centre-back, they want change the team today and he looks a perfect

fit, Antonio Conte. We have to leave it there, thank you, all of you, for

your company, remember Chelsea versus Swansea at the Liberty

Stadium is on later, from all of us, goodbye