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Good afternoon, welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two

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Get in touch using the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media

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Over the next 45 minutes we will update you on the big game at

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Selhurst Park in the fight to stay in the Premier League and Crystal

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Palace took an early lead against Hull.

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Swansea won yesterday, beating Sunderland 2-0 at the Stadium Of

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Light and we will reflect on Chelsea's title triumph in talks

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birds as they get ready to bid farewell to White Hart Lane. -- we

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will talk about Spurs. Antonio Conte features on most

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of the back pages, after reportedly Andy's paper, the Mirror -

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"Conte Me In". Saying they are planning to get rid

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of players starting with Zabaleta. We can get details of the early game

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at Selhurst Park. It is on 5 Live. 1-0, the goal coming after three

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minutes, a horrible moment for Andrea Ranocchia. Missed his kick

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and in bit Wilfried Zaha, gleefully slotting under the goalkeeper.

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Selhurst Park erupted. It could have been two. A James Tomkins header

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drifting wide. As it stands, Hull City will be relegated and a draw

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would keep them up but if they lose, they will go down and Swansea and

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Crystal Palace will stay up. They have a lot to do. Leon Osman, you

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can do all the planning as a manager but if a centre-half makes a mistake

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like that there is little you can do.

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You send your team out with all the things you have worked on in

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training, and a player makes such a horrendous mistake. You are fighting

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an uphill challenge with your backs against the wall already. 1-0 down

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and you have their crowd up, you have them really firing. It is

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difficult from that position. Hull, I assume they will be nervous, the

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crowd will be nervous, the more we can prey on the nerves, the better.

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It has not helped. Right now, the crowd firing. I know what it is like

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playing in front of the Selhurst Park faithful. Once they are up,

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they are up and it is definitely the man. Wilfried Zaha scoring an early

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goal leaves Hull with a big task. It was a horrendous error but Zaha had

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to be aware to capitalise on it. It is important for him, obviously

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Palace staying in the Premier League, a big moment for him. A

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shining light of the season, a Premier League style. His awareness

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to capitalise shows why he is. That is why it is important for him to

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stay in this league. He showed great composure. He has been criticised

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for showing his skill, getting into set positions and not showing skill.

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With that play, and the team sheets, with that type of player in the

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Palace squad, that is why they should not be in this situation,

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having to beat Hull. You look at the Hull team. Looking at players I have

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trained with nine out of 11. I think how have they done it? Nobody

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understands. Do you understand? I cannot put my finger on it. It is

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probably the home record that followed us all the way through from

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2016. Not winning in ages. It affected the team definitely. A lot

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of the players have been there for the duration. Only three players...

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You wear blue now, you cannot say" us" any more! I am still a fan. You

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talk about players you know. This is one of the players you do not know.

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Millie a. Do you think he has provided a defensive protection. A

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similar type of player who looks more mobile. Definitely got... He

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looks like he has helped out Palace. They like him down there. Letting

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him score a penalty against Arsenal. His first goal. Shows the

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appreciation. -- Milivojevic. For Hull firms, who are unlikely to be

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watching this, you could use a similar argument for Hull. They may

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not get the amount of attention Zaha does in the media but Maguire, young

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players on the radar of Premier League clubs if they drop out. It is

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a natural scenario for any team dropping out, players who are

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ambition, the full-back, Robertson, that type of player would find a

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club in the Premier League if they want to. It depends on the ongoing

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situation in the hierarchy, the board, whether they can find the

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wherewithal, be it financial, to keep the players. You will be

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manager next season. Silver probably -- Silva probably has a clause where

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he can leave. For all the good publicity he has generated with the

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home record, it still looks like a relegation on his CV. They have

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looked better organise. In patches. At home, barring last week's

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disaster, they have been impressive at home and have had great victories

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against sides you would not expect. He has not been able to do anything

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about the away form. Would Sam Allardyce have kept up Hull? Trying

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to bedevil's Africa. Answer your question, you are the guest. -- I am

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trying to play devil's advocate. If you had said to me Sam was available

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at the time, who would I bring in, I would have brought in Sam Allardyce.

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Sam Allardyce will be delighted Palace came available because he

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might have jumped into the Hull job. He went to Palace. He would have

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been delighted with the squad he got. In my opinion they are a top

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ten team. They are languishing near the bottom. I put it down to desire

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of the players when they are out on the field. I do not know them like

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Yannick. They look like they wait to have someone else reacts first and

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they can follow them and now they are off it and it has come to it

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where Sam Allardyce has said it is time to step up. A squad that needs

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leadership? Palace? Yes. Milivojevic is a big leader. Delaney. He is not

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playing. It takes a toll on the player when you are not playing. The

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leadership skills tend to be relaxed. They found a new captain.

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Jason Puncheon is a great captain. When you go out on the pitch, the

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captain playing at the back. To set the tempo takes a striker and you

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bring in someone like Benteke, you get crosses and finishes and

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hustling feller upfront but he does not start at tempo and chases centre

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halves. If he does not, people behind think they do not necessarily

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think they to do it. Would you say Palace have better players? Yes.

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Then he should have done a better job with the players, is so Silva

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has done a better job than Sam Allardyce? Is some cases he has a

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better squad. It took him a while. Three games ago they were thought

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they were safe. The Manchester City game looked like a game they were

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not overly interested in. Maybe there was an element of that. I

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guess you could say that. It looks like he will keep them up and it

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looks like he will keep them up with a little to spare. He would have

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gone to Hull and approached it differently possibly with those

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players, making them harder to beat on the road. Palace, it is not just

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a question of making them hard to beat but looking at the squad

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thinking this is a team that should win games. Swansea, a huge win at

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Sunderland. Their squad are meant to be watching this Crystal Palace and

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Hull game together. Everton played them last weekend and were beaten by

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them at the Liberty Stadium. What did the squad say about the Swansea

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team? They are definitely more up for it, that is for sure. To be

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honest, the boys will have felt they let themselves down. Especially,

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myself being a Crystal Palace supporter, I would want Everton to

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go out and beat them. It happens. We are seventh. Not much to play for.

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You tend to relax a little bit. It is hard to keep up the tempo. It is

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not like we can catch the top six, all go down, so technically, it just

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happens. Paul Clement, what has he done for you? He has got the team

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together. They were a bit... Certainly flimsy under the previous

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managers. They had a turnaround. The third manager. Fourth, I don't know.

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He brought stability. He gave them a shape and place to play from and

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from that when you have the likes of Llorente to score goals, you have a

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chance. It is a vague concept but they look well coached as you would

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imagine from someone of his experience. He will be finding his

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way into the man management situation and the way he reacts to

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situations, to winning and defeat. I think he was over exuberant in

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celebrating some wins, going around the crowd. They lose and suddenly

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you are under pressure again. Looking at him, he looks like a

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coach in charge, a guy who has been number two two big clubs. Arguably

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they needed that. Some might think it over the top going around.

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Because there were accusations of the club losing its identity because

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of American investors and one of the things he appears to have done is

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bring everybody together. The players buying tickets for the fans.

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That is a conscious decision. That is clearly people behind the scenes.

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That was Leon Britton, as I understand it. In terms of his

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interaction with the club, Paul Clement, that is people behind the

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scenes making the decision to connect. He has made the effort. It

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has lifted the place. A better atmosphere. Crucially they look a

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more cohesive unit. Part of what you were saying when they were up for it

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last week, the atmosphere and crowd players coming together. Paul

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Clement going around and clapping the standards. It works. There is

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definitely a togetherness there. If football there is so much

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exaggeration with that kind of thing but the fans really like that. It is

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the modern way of the manager to basically go out on the pitch. I

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used to think the manager should not be near the pitch. Look at the

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manager who won the title, Antonio Conte, he probably does it the most.

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The fans respond to it. Did you see Alex Ferguson on the pitch, other

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than when they scored in the extra 20 minutes of injury time? Maybe not

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until the end of the season, but I suppose there was never a doubt in

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Alex Ferguson's loyalty, because he was there so long and in the age

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when managers come and go more and players, whether it is real or not,

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you want to see some passion and appreciation for you from them. You

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are a fan, I am a fan. Maybe I am an old-fashioned band. You will not see

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Arsene Wenger going to all four corners of the stadium.

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You don't see him anywhere! I know what she was saying, the passion,

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but it is a bit of the cult of the manager, that is because now they

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are as big a star... They were never as big... It was always the star

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players. You would not get managers, basically, milking the acclaim like

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they do now. If you have just won the Premier League title and you can

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dance in front of your fans. But keeping them up is just as big. Not

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everybody can win. Ten games from the end of the season, I can't and

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who they beat, then going onto the pitch. It is very curmudgeonly, I

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know... With ten games to go if you are in a relegation battle, you need

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to galvanise? I'm pretty sure that was part of what he was to do,

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showing the fans his team is fighting and how much it means to

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him, he was probally trying to show the players this is how we can

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celebrate after games if we are all in this together. He went on a great

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run when he first came in, they fell away a bit but now they are back on

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a good run. In no small part, in my opinion, to Leon Britton. Clement

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did not seem to fancy him at first and played him -- fancy at first,

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but now he is playing him and realising what an acid years. One

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reviewer says that for Hull to stay up as an achievement. Jackson says

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it is a big game for Swansea fans, we need Palace to win. They are 1-0

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up at the moment. Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday 0- in the

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Championship play up -- play-off. Somebody is saying about the rent

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say is one of the key players, would you say he was? Who is that? Low

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rent a? Definitely, his goals have been fantastic. If you have a

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striker but can score goals, you put it in on his head. If you have

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somebody with the ammunition and firepower, let's play to the

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strengths of Llorente. Swansea are a passing progressive team. When they

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get into the final third, they know they want to get the ball to

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Llorente. Most of the papers have the quote

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that he is staying, Antonio Conte, despite the reported interest from

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inter-Milan, and a new contract could be on the table. It is serious

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interest from Inter Milan. What I would say is that in the immediate

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aftermath he will not say I am not sure. He will not say I am undecided

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whether I will stay or not. There is an element of he would say that,

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wouldn't he?! But I think over the last couple of months it is by no

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means 100% certain that he would stay. From two elements. Have you

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settled in London? His family have not moved to London yet, I think he

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hopes for his wife and daughter to come in the summer, they were at the

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game the other day at Stamford Bridge. You can't underestimate if a

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guy has not settled and maybe wants to go home. That does not seem to

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have been resolved. Professionally, it would be a big challenge going to

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Inter. Newly owned, relatively newly in the last two years. Big money to

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spend, big money to offer him. He looks around the Premier League now,

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he will look at Jose Mourinho, Pep and their salaries and think I am on

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half of that, I might want to upgrade. The consensus now is that

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it is designed that they will come to him with a new deal and most of

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the papers say it would be record-breaking, but I would not say

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100%. 99, maybe, not 100%. You can see from his perspective in that if

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he looks at Mourinho or Guardiola or Klopp or whatever and goes, I am not

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getting what they are and I have won the title, you can understand

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wanting parity with your peers if you are the title winner. When you

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do the job, you always have a right to demand. He has come in in his

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first season and won the Premier League with a team, technically,

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that was struggling last season. They still have the Champions League

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to play for this season. Winning the Premier League is still a big

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especially with all the managers. Is Yannick was talking, Leon, who has

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paid no attention at all... I heard everything he said! Made a little

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move because there has been another goal at Selhurst Park. We will go

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there very shortly. Christian Benteke has scored. Crystal Palace

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are no two goals to the goods is home to Hull. It came from a corner,

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John Southall can describe. Crystal Palace two, Hull City nil.

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Hull City are looking doomed. They corner from the right-hand side,

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Christian Benteke rose five yards out to power the ball into the back

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of the net for his 15th league goal of the season. Hull City really need

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to win this game, they trailing 2-0 and look like they are heading to

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the Championship. In this game, Palace have cause to Hull lots of

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problems really. Tompkins almost scored as well. Knowing what the

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teamwork on, and the boys, Big Sam always works on set plays. That is

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the training ground peace. Six foot plus, lots of the Palace players.

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Three centre halves in Maguire, Dawson and Rodon here. Maybe they

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should be able to compete, but when you have the likes of Benteke and

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Tompkins, get set pieces, get the ball in the box, we will ). 2-0 to

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Crystal Palace against Hull. Still goalless in the Championship

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play-off between Huddersfield and Sheffield Wednesday. The Telegraph

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says that Antonio Conte will have ?2 million to spend this summer -- ?200

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million to spend. How much do you think they need to strengthen? I

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think Sir Alex Ferguson said it a number of years ago, the best time

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to strengthen its when you have just won something. I agree. I think he

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will splash the cash. I think there are some players are Chelsea Lewis

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believe, John Terry is certainly on his way out, Willian possibly going,

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will Fabregas be happy being a bit part player again? They could be

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losing quality players, they will have to strengthen, meaning more

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competition. I looked at Jose Mourinho in the summer when he won

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the Premier League, moving into the next season when he got the sack,

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the only player of note he brought in was Pedro, he tried to bring in

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others but they were not successful, I believe that was a big

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contribution to him getting the sack, the lack of competition for

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places. Players can get a bit relaxed and what they have done and

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what position they have held. The competition comes with signing new

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players. That would have been another element in Conte's mind,

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finding out what he has to spend and how he can strengthen. He will know

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that his schedule will be busy next year, clearly, a European schedule

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to content with, he knows all about that. He will be thinking, hang on,

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you will also know he is a little bit... I would not say fortunate

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that he has been privileged to have to make so few changes. It has been

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highlighted, probably the least number of changes in the Premier

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League, at the top end. The same as Leicester last season, winning

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formula. Don't play any rug, win the title! That was never the case until

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Lester did it. Previously to Leicester doing it... Liverpool got

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really close, barring the Steven Gerrard slip. That is the best they

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have done, they were not in Europe. For these teams are the top 12 or 13

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players, Chelsea probably have a bigger squad than most but if you

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have 12 of 30 players that don't have the extra games in Europe... It

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has become like this in the last couple of seasons, the last team to

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win, it was not the Premier League, it was the last season of the old

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division, Leeds, they were not in Europe. From then on until Lester,

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every team has been in Europe. Now it is getting more physically

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demanding, there has been appointed. Grujic is reference to the Steven

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Gerrard stuff extra measure my -- a gratuitous reference. I can't

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believe the camera caught me smiling! Is the fellow Premier

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League winner, when you watch him, what do you see in his game that you

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would like to add to yours? Hazard is a great player, obviously. The

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thing I would like to take off him, if I was going to take something,

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was the way he stands in pockets and it's really patient. Sometimes I can

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go in a pocket and I'm standing but I'm thinking the ball needs to come

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now, now, now. If it don't come I end up going out wide. But stays,

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makes the team shuffle across and is still in the same position where he

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knows if he gets on the half turn... That is patience? Patience and

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knowledge. The fact that Hazard... Lots of academy players I see coming

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through are doing the same thing, hanging around in pockets. A player

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like myself who has come through the non-league system, it is one of the

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things we tend to miss from our game and have to minute at a later stage.

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When you learn it at a younger stage, becomes as simple as opening

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a book. The fact that Hazard has it, it gives him an advantage,

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especially the way he plays, he is so quick and runs at players and

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goes that you from the centre, literally running the centre-back,

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it makes it harder to mark. Or you are trying to teach yourself that

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ability? I have had Alan Pardew playing me in number ten, that

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helped a lot. When you tend to come out wide and do it, it is different.

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It is easier through the middle. When you are out wide and coming

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into my pocket, it is a lot harder. The way Everton are playing at the

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moment has a lot to do with that. It caused me some problems at the start

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of the season but I started getting better. I am sure I will pick at it

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differently. Lots has been made of the Chelsea formation, the formation

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really benefits them in that situation because you will have

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players going alongside. In the same way as you learn at Everton, when he

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is back fits, you would have Seamus Coleman doing the same thing? I will

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go back to when we played against Chelsea and lost 5-0 at Stamford

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Bridge. It made it so hard... My full-back, shameless probably did

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not want to go in there. Alonso would be making much run. If I'm

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following Alonso every time, how will I... I tried to cover Hazard,

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which makes it even harder. Am I listening to my instructions from

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behind? How will I follow him? Especially if he is that quick. It

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is a clever formation. Definitely. It has gone well in certain

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occasions but it looks like the Chelsea boys... They tried to go

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4-3-3, eventually said no, we will stick it out at the usual formation.

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The Championship play-off first leg between Huddersfield

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and Sheffield Wednesday is under way.

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It is still 0-0, fifth against fourth in the jumping Chapecoense.

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Great atmosphere at the stadium. Yet to have an attempt on target.

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Huddersfield have dominated, Brown grades the crossbar and Erin Moyes

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sought an effort to be a wide. -- saw an effort. Andy on Twitter says

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that at this rate Newcastle will have lots of troubling to do, their

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nearest away match could be in Manchester. A few others in the

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North will have to do a lot of travelling next season! -- a few of

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us in the north. Leon just wants to watch the football, so I will talk

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to you! How is your recovery? I could not be in a better stage right

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now, not trying to force anything but now I am in a good state of mind

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physically and mentally. Of, we were saying you are the kind of person

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that wants to set yourself a target but you have done that yet? I have

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not done that just yet. I like to see the end goal. For example,

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Everton, their end goal would be finishing in the top six. It is like

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myself as a player, you need to know the end goal and as you are going on

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the way, if there are setbacks then you adjust, but you know the end

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goal. Do you feel this is a positive time for your former club? I do. You

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look at the way Ronald Koeman strengthened when he came in. The

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club move forward. People working behind the scenes to make the club

:29:43.:29:46.

move in the right direction. For a large part of the season we have had

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players like Yannick missing. I expect they will strengthen again

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over the summer if we can keep our better players, be a keeping club

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rather than a club who has to cell. Strengthen and then get players like

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Yannick and Seamus who have missed a big chunk, that is a great addition.

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Talking about Conte strengthening, if Everton continued they can

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compete at the next stage, the top six, and potentially go up. How

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would you describe the season? At the start of the season if you

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thought how many points they would get you would come up with something

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around a smart. They have been great at home. The current state, these

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next two, three months are important, what happens with Lukaku?

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What I'm getting, I think, even though his situation is more urgent,

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I think Lukaku, if I had to save one of them will go it will be him and

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that will be a big blow. Ross Barkley. I don't know. He is playing

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a strange game not to sign by now but I would not be surprised if he

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stays but I would not be surprised if he said to the board, what is

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happening with Lukaku? It is OK Everton saying to Ross Barkley sign

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this contract or you are being sold, when they might say Lukaku has two

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years of his contract left. If they could hold onto those and

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strengthening, they could challenge the top six and make the big six,

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big seven. How have you found your manager to work for? When you ask a

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player, they go, he is brilliant. The awards dinner the other night,

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Lukaku was honest, saying he has improved me. But we have had times

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when we have fallen out. He was honest, how have you found a

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manager? He is like that, he is chilled out, but he ain't. I am more

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relaxed. I am a little bit older. The manager has been fantastic to

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me, ever since I have been injured, the staff, as well, the support has

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been incredible and for me, I am looking forward to being back.

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Playing and doing well and showing the fans what I am about because I

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don't think I have shown them what I can do. You talk about Ross Barkley

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and Romelu Lukaku, but Everton under 23s won .pl two, their division.

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Several have played in the first team. There are others going

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through. A lot of players coming through, but like Leon Osman says,

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we have probably got to bring in players to freshen up the

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competition. Bringing in players helps players like myself, anyone

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else in the team, to raise their game. If we can do that, hopefully

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we can be challenging. Agreed. It is a great sign the young lads are

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doing so well. They have potential. Now we are talking about Everton

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making the next step and becoming a top six guaranteed club and moving

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on. You have to have top young players to help the first team

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improve and the next step would be to strengthen by bringing in

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players. Ronald Koeman has done a great job. He seems to have been

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more strict than the previous regime which the players have needed.

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Ronald Koeman seems to have not exactly a my way or the highway, but

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do what I tell you, maybe not far off. I think the club may be needed

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that. You have seen that in the home form. The fact Everton have

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progressed. Let's go back to Selhurst Park. Crystal Palace

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leading Hull City 2-0. The referee's whistle should go any moment. A

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horrendous first half for Hull City, who are being relegated at the

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moment. The first was a shocker. Ranocchia missing his clearance just

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outside the penalty area and Wilfried Zaha slotting it under the

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keeper. There goes the whistle. The second from the corner on the right,

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Jason Puncheon with the corner and wrist in Benteke with the header.

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There was a controversial moments before half-time. A Grosicki free

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kick on the left-hand side and it looked like Puncheon handball and

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the referee did not give the penalty and Hull City need those decisions

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to go their way. As they go off at half-time, they have 45 minutes to

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save their Premier League status. At the moment it is hanging by a very

:34:45.:34:53.

thin thread. Half-time has gone in the Championship play-off semifinal

:34:54.:34:56.

first leg and that is goalless between Huddersfield and Sheffield

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Wednesday. At 4:30 on 5Live, you can hear

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commentary of Tottenham's final game at White Hart Lane against Mancheser

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United. Did you enjoy playing at Spurs? I

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loved it, my favourite away ground. I made my debut there. Back in what

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was a 4-3 defeat. I came on in the 97th minute and played 90 seconds

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and definitely touched the ball! Although that did not go well, and

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another couple of defeats, we won three on the run down there and I

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think we had not won as a club since 1987, and we won three on the run

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and I scored a goal or two. I am surprised you have not been asked

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back! I thought I would have been. I have my suit, just in case. Did you

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enjoy playing their? Yes. A lot of the times. Won in the quarterfinal

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of the FA Cup, last season. It has been an enjoyable place. Do you like

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the crowd on top of you? I do. The atmosphere. When they don't like

:36:14.:36:17.

you, it gives you more edge to hurt the team you are playing against and

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I like that. You said you will miss it because the press box is great,

:36:22.:36:26.

over the tunnel. You can see the bus stop new Mac. When the new press box

:36:27.:36:38.

was designed -- bust ups. We are low-down but we are next to the

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dugout and the tunnel. You sort of hangover and see the players walking

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in. You will notice an inordinate amount of Spurs tunnel bust ups

:36:51.:36:57.

stories because that is because we conceive. In the Derby, you see what

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it is about, it was about a drugs test. Having said that, I did notice

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it will... Will Spurs have a glass tunnel when you pay extra money and

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watch what goes on as they come through? What went on in the tunnel

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always stayed at the tunnel. Remember that? Unless at Spurs, when

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the press can crane their necks and looked over. It is a great

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atmosphere and I am glad it is staying where it is. These stadiums.

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The bricks and mortar change, dramatically. White Hart Lane from

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ten, 20 years ago is nothing like it is now, they change all the time. It

:37:46.:37:54.

is like Trigger's broom. The Anfield of today is not like the Anfield my

:37:55.:38:00.

dad went to. But it is the area, the routine. Upton Park we miss, it is

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the area, the atmosphere. The same people you see and routine you have.

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The same pubs and cafes. In a way, it is good, I think it remains in

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the area and it will not be out of town. Not remote from wherever it

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has been. I have not seen the plans for the new stadium but White Hart

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Lane is what you would class as a good, traditional British ground

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from years ago. You have the modern stadiums. It was steeped in history,

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tight, a good ground. The noise they made was fantastic and a great

:38:46.:38:47.

ground to play at regardless of the result. I am fascinated when you

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speak to players, how it works to your advantage. How Goodison Park

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works for Everton, White Hart Lane for Spurs, and when you go somewhere

:39:02.:39:06.

like the London Stadium, more anaesthetised, is there a

:39:07.:39:13.

difference? Palace is an intimidating place. They are on top

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of you and the noise they make, they are jumping up and down. Manchester

:39:18.:39:23.

City, asked, new stadiums. They are not so much. The crowd is set back,

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not as much as the London stadium but setback and the seats are more

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comfortable. They are not on top of each other like a Palace and

:39:35.:39:37.

Goodison and White Hart Lane at the moment. These new grams have to come

:39:38.:39:42.

into modern eyes football and create more money, but the old grounds were

:39:43.:39:49.

great to play in. You say at Spurs you used it to your advantage. Do

:39:50.:39:55.

you get intimidated? There is not a game where a player goes to take the

:39:56.:39:59.

corner near the away fans, home fans, and there are gestures going

:40:00.:40:02.

on at that player. Do you look and see that, can you blanket out? I

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have looked and when I have looked I have hands pointing. I laugh it off.

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I have just won a corner for my team. With those grounds you will

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get it, especially when they are on top of you. I probably got abused at

:40:27.:40:31.

Goodison more than anywhere else. It is great you know that is there. The

:40:32.:40:34.

opposition getting twice as much as you are. Do you expect Spurs to win?

:40:35.:40:42.

I do and talking about the emotion, that will lift them. Manchester

:40:43.:40:46.

United have their mind on other things. It will complete an unbeaten

:40:47.:40:51.

season at home, the home they are leaving, and going to Wembley, and

:40:52.:40:57.

we know what happens there. As far as the top four is concerned. In

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this top four chat, we ought to keep saying, you really want to finish

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third, not forth, in this because you avoid the qualifier and go into

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the group stage. You would rather finish fourth and fifth! Liverpool

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have a tough game at West Ham, especially after the performance

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against Spurs. They know how to get a result and what it requires, those

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players. Probably their last home game of the season, which brings

:41:40.:41:43.

more. It will be tough for Liverpool, but they tend to win

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games when they are up against it. It is Middlesbrough next week where

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Liverpool will struggle. I expect to win today. This is no comment on any

:41:52.:41:59.

team going for the top four, but it is just the way football work

:42:00.:42:04.

sometimes, there is no analysis, the feeling that after everything this

:42:05.:42:09.

season, Arsenal finish fourth. Do you know what I mean? And win the FA

:42:10.:42:17.

Cup. Probably. Everybody saying... What a manager! I was at Stoke

:42:18.:42:24.

yesterday and the Arsenal fans were singing Arsene Wenger's name. Mesut

:42:25.:42:30.

Ozil scores and they are singing about him. Arsenal win 4-1 and you

:42:31.:42:38.

think, it is a typical Arsenal world. That could happen. In the

:42:39.:42:47.

past they have got to this stage and it has been in their hands, but it

:42:48.:42:51.

is not and if Liverpool win this afternoon, that should be it. As

:42:52.:42:56.

Leon says, Liverpool, when they have their backs against the wall are

:42:57.:43:02.

more likely to come good. Liverpool, no, I think West Ham will give them

:43:03.:43:06.

a good challenge. My gut feeling is telling me Arsenal will finish in

:43:07.:43:12.

the top four. They play Everton on the last day of the season. We are

:43:13.:43:24.

in good form. It has always been the way for me. West Ham no Liverpool

:43:25.:43:30.

have to come to get the result which will help West Ham. With Arsenal,

:43:31.:43:34.

they always seem to come good when the pressure is off, basically came

:43:35.:43:39.

from nowhere. When they are expected to win it is more difficult. I think

:43:40.:43:44.

Arsenal could potentially finish fourth. It is on this game today.

:43:45.:43:54.

Hull's game against Crystal Palace is on 5 Live. We will have

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highlights on Match Of The Day to later. Goodbye.

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