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Good afternoon, welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
Joining me are former England and Arsenal defender Martin Keown. | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
Match of the Day commentator Guy Mowbray. | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
who's the Sunday Times Football Correspondent. | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
Get in touch using the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
Coming up, it's advantage Swansea in the relegation battle | :00:46. | :00:53. | |
after Paul Clement's side beat Everton. | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
While Hull lose at home at relegated Sunderland, | :00:57. | :01:03. | |
We'll look ahead to today's two Premier League games, including | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
Arsenal against Manchester United at 4 o'clock. | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
And also discuss the title race after Tottenham's defeat on Friday | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
night leaves Chelsea needing just two wins to be crowned champions. | :01:11. | :01:17. | |
As far as the newspaper headlines are concerned, the Sun claims Jose | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
Mourinho wants to sign Sergio Aguero. The Mirror claims Manchester | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
City wants to sign Alex Sandro. The Telegraph claims Bayern Munich want | :01:31. | :01:40. | |
to sign Alexis Sanchez. Let's ignore all of them and we will just tell | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
you that the final day of the Championship season, so much | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
attention on the bottom. Three clubs could be relegated today. Nottingham | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
Forest, BlackBerry or city. 15 minutes gone in their game at | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
Brentford. Blackburn are 2-0 up so if all the results are to stay as | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
they are, Nottingham Forest and Birmingham are drawing at the | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
moment. Birmingham are taking on Bristol City. As things stand, | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
Nottingham Forest are going down to League 1. We will keep you across | :02:18. | :02:25. | |
all of those in the next 45 minutes. Let's start with a medication battle | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
in the Premier League. Swansea one point. Hull. You were at the Liberty | :02:29. | :02:37. | |
Stadium fall somewhat impressed you most about Swansea? I like the way | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
they dealt with the occasion. There were such intensity going into that | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
game. It was palpable from the fans. It was almost like the Crucible, at | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
times. Ibis particularly impressed with the backs. Britain sits in | :02:52. | :02:57. | |
there. He is a player who understands the game well. He can | :02:58. | :03:04. | |
handle experience. Leroy came on full survey had good energy. | :03:05. | :03:11. | |
Llorente at the top of the game. Lukaku, lazy on the day. They | :03:12. | :03:19. | |
weren't in the right mode at all. Lukaku not moving into the ball. | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
Llorente, that platform, he got the vital goal. A really good | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
performance. Let me come onto the Leon Brittan part. He appears to | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
have given this current Swansea squad, early on we were talking | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
about they could have lost some of their identity. Taylor went in the | :03:43. | :03:49. | |
January transfer window. The stories is his handle every DVD to the | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
players, the documentary, he's reported to be behind the players. | :03:54. | :04:02. | |
How important is he? Every clubs to have someone like that around. | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
They've got to have an identity of way back. They have had a few | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
results. He wasn't in the team in the early stages. It goes back to | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
the argument Antonio Conte had about teams kicking off at different | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
times. I was at Hull yesterday. The mood there was entirely different. | :04:25. | :04:26. | |
The lift Swansea would have had before kick-off, I think it was | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
almost worth a late start. That is just lack of the draw. It is swings | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
and roundabouts. -- lack of the draw. -- luck of the draw. But, | :04:39. | :04:47. | |
yesterday, it was a big factor in her Swansea took to the task. A | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
dreadful first 15 minutes if you are Nottingham Forest fan. Birmingham | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
winning. Nottingham Forest now two points adrift of Blackburn. Four | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
adrift of Nottingham Forest. I thought the big contrast was weird | :05:06. | :05:14. | |
Hull's Crystal Palace game. They are in big trouble. The basics at set | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
pieces, you saw her focused and concentrated Swansea were. In | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
contrast to all of that. They've had their bad spell and come through it. | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
May be just the right time. You were at home. Yesterday. If you were to | :05:34. | :05:40. | |
flip it the other way, and we will play first, we could really put the | :05:41. | :05:48. | |
pressure on Swansea. The tension got to the players yesterday. You could | :05:49. | :05:52. | |
feel it. You could detect it in the body language of the managers. When | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
Chelsea lost to Manchester United a few weeks ago, everybody thought | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
Antonio Conte wasn't himself. You could see that with Marco Silva | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
yesterday. A lot more demonstrative. He stood on the touchline isolated. | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
David Moyes, by contrast, was really relaxed. He was chatting to people. | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
It's a hard thing to describe to explain to people. When you're | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
relegated you are paralysed with fear force of the ball comes into | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
the box, you hope somebody else will take responsibility. You don't do | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
it, they don't do it. You have to almost step above it and say, right, | :06:36. | :06:42. | |
I can make it happen today. I can't accept disaster. It's not going to | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
happen. It's such a long gap. It consumes youthful spits how you | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
handle the pressure. Swansea got that right. The odd thing with Hull | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
is you talk about grabbing it by the scruff of the neck. Their previous | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
home game with their backs against the wall with Watford and they were | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
reduced to ten men... That's it. Everybody in the world. Hull | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
Woodwind comfortable you. Swansea have hunted them down yesterday. | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
They are in pole position. Now Crystal Palace play Hull. That game | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
is absolutely massive. What were you going to say about the Swansea | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
manager? I don't have the luxury of talking to him. You saw the pressure | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
lift off him. You see the pressure these guys are under. He was taking | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
on-board oxygen, looking around, couldn't believe it himself. It was | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
too good to be true. He puffed out at the end. He did get it right. In | :07:52. | :07:59. | |
a way the others didn't. Sam Allardyce was saying yesterday that | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
what Crystal Palace have now got to do is remember the absolute basics. | :08:06. | :08:14. | |
Where Martin Kelly was saying they didn't prepare long enough,... I'd | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
tell you what, before I've read at Martin Kelly's quotes, before we do | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
that, let's hear from Sam Allardyce what he thought of their 5-0 defeat. | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
The lads really didn't apply themselves correctly, making sure | :08:34. | :08:39. | |
they kept it tight. They felt they had to try and get forward and try | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
to get a goal and leave more space is. They did thoroughly in the end. | :08:44. | :08:50. | |
We can't complain about the score. The tactical thing he did yesterday | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
was he didn't actually have a recognised centre-half. The thinking | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
pre-match, what he said, Martin, city are quick and nimble and small | :09:03. | :09:11. | |
and don't have somebody like some votes -- Sam Vogts. Does that sound | :09:12. | :09:20. | |
sensible in theory? Yes but my put my football players have torn which | :09:21. | :09:27. | |
was a very long time ago. I want to be prepared. I want information. I | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
want certainty. I will give you that. I know the roles of people | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
around me so don't send me into the biggest game of my career half an | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
afternoon working on something we've never worked on before. I would have | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
to argue with Kelly's clearance. He does not deliver the ball well. | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
Kelly said afterwards, I don't think we've worked on the formation enough | :09:55. | :10:05. | |
to be honest. When you do practice things on the training pitch, you | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
create pictures for people and put them into situations they will come | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
into on match day, so he's in a centre position instead of a | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
fallback position. I see it both ways. Antonio Conte has done it | :10:18. | :10:24. | |
better than anybody else. Everybody wants to do it. Pep Guardiola is a | :10:25. | :10:31. | |
manager who would exploit you. If you don't know the system well | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
enough, he's rolling sleeves up and taking part, he goes wide with his | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
wide players, punish you and that's what they did yesterday. Sam talked | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
about individual mistakes and that's what they do when they tried to | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
excuse their own managerial performance. I would say this is a | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
pattern. Where Martin Kelly did not play well, at centre-back, he | :10:56. | :11:03. | |
thought winning the title with Leicester was the most surprising | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
thing that happened. I think his pace was the thinking there. He's 1 | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
million miles away from being a centre-back. When a manager comes | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
out and says that, you've got to be together. You still lose, whoever | :11:23. | :11:29. | |
you blame, you get together and sort it out. The players are saying this, | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
and Sam should listen. We need to do more work on this. All the focus has | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
been on Crystal Palace because it was their result but city were | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
terrific. When they turn it on like that there aren't many teams who can | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
live with them, quite frankly. They were on their A-game yesterday. They | :11:48. | :11:53. | |
were bang on it yesterday. To give city their credit, they were back to | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
a formation that worked for them earlier on in the season. In | :11:59. | :12:08. | |
particular, with the two attackers. However you want to describe it. I | :12:09. | :12:15. | |
don't think he was as dynamic as last season. I don't think he | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
contributed like you did last season. The other interesting thing | :12:20. | :12:28. | |
for me, the choice of right back, you have all of them on the bench. I | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
think they could be signing a right back next season. That raised | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
eyebrows. I can't second-guess it. You can't underestimate his great | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
finish. Great to see him back again. Overcoming injuries because of the | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
terrible to see. He didn't know he was going to get injured next season | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
and that's laying down a marker. We talk about pragmatic managers and | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
his very artistic manager, Pep Guardiola. It's taken them a lot of | :12:59. | :13:05. | |
time, longer than he is imagined. He knows how tough it is in the Premier | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
League. Next year he will say this is what we need to do. The way he | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
celebrated son of the crowd, his whole motion with it, I think he was | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
a bit cold, scientific early on but he's at home now and has got his | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
place. And the forward line was so good. Young players up front, so | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
quick, so good together. When you look at the stories of Sergio Aguero | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
today, you wonder whether he will look in the middle of that three and | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
keep him there. There is maybe a door opening for other clubs. That's | :13:41. | :13:48. | |
an interesting decision. It is the Sun newspaper and the Sunday Times | :13:49. | :13:57. | |
who say United or Jose Mourinho want Sergio Aguero. Do you believe it? Do | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
you envisage any way that could happen? I believe they want him and | :14:04. | :14:10. | |
they don't think it could happen. Jose Mourinho was quite happy with | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
it at this that he wants him because he can't lose. Exposes the | :14:14. | :14:21. | |
situation. The Sunday Times article also said Joe Hart. It's almost like | :14:22. | :14:31. | |
he's mischievously going after them. Guy probably knows what his stats | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
are. They are not bad. I just feel he's been working. The strikers he | :14:37. | :14:45. | |
has had at Bayern Munich, he wants more from Sergio Aguero and is not | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
satisfied. Is on trial there. He's more of a Jose Mourinho striker. Are | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
you saying you have a doubt about Sergio Aguero? The manager | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
definitely once more from him. He's not happy with their return. He | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
wants someone who can punish teams more, a marksman in front of goal. | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
It's the big teams, is absolutely brilliant against them. There's no | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
difference between this record against top than the rest and Man | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
City want to win the league, the Champions League, that's invaluable. | :15:20. | :15:29. | |
It's not the only thing. Apart from Messi Andrew Nadeau, there cannot be | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
many with a better record. He has a high percentage and he does need the | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
chances. There was an article for the Daily Mail and I was astounded | :15:40. | :15:46. | |
that the number of chances he needs to score a goal... Like Zlatan | :15:47. | :15:53. | |
Ibrahimovic. This message says, when will Crystal Palace get a decent | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
defenders? It was crazy. One final thing is on the relegation battle, | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
Palace at home to Hull City and Swansea go to Sunderland. Would you | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
care to predict? Don't you raise your eyebrows at me! I cannot do | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
predictions, you have no idea. I would say in the greatest danger, | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
Hull, but I would not put it past them to go and win at Palace. The | :16:19. | :16:27. | |
Palace at home, Middlesbrough and Sunderland have won fewer games at | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
home and Palace had been beaten at home I3 macro and Sunderland and | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
Swansea. If they lose that game, I think they will go down. It is a | :16:38. | :16:44. | |
dangerous situation. We're talking about Tottenham, Hull at home to | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
Tottenham, that is second, that is boxed. The Palace home record... I | :16:49. | :16:56. | |
think Palace it will be fine. That game is huge. I was at the Burnley | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
and Palace gained recently at Selhurst Park and I could not | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
believe how Paul Palace were on the day, Burnley were magnificent and | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
they worked hard. It goes back to the expectation of the home game, | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
with teams around you in a relegation battle and three times | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
Swansea and Burnley and Sunderland have gone up. Swansea are the | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
underdogs, which suits them. We don't know! In the Championship, | :17:28. | :17:34. | |
Blackburn two, Brentford zero. Birmingham City are winning at | :17:35. | :17:40. | |
Bristol City by 1-0 and goalless between Nottingham Forest and | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
Ipswich. So that means Nottingham Forest are going down. Blackburn and | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
Birmingham would be safe. There is an early goal in the Scottish | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
Premiership. Partick Thistle against Rangers. Partick Thistle leading by | :17:57. | :18:05. | |
1-0. Fantastic news! Who's good at? Do one. He has good four goals now. | :18:06. | :18:14. | |
-- he has scored. He would think you would be such an expert? Nobody | :18:15. | :18:24. | |
knows that back home! This is worrying for Forest fans, which is | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
an understatement. Deeply worrying, the club could be taken over by new | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
ownership, to go down to League One is so difficult to get out of. What | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
a situation! Such a great club, Nottingham Forest, I was brought up | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
watching them play and how they managed to win two European cups. | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
Brian Clough, everything he did for that club. You go into the boardroom | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
and receive trophies, it is remarkable, to see the demise of a | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
club. The same argument for Blackburn and for Birmingham City, | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
you could have. All three of them, they are huge clubs and to go down | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
to the third tier, something has gone badly wrong everywhere. Back to | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
the Premier League. The Premier League's lunchtime | :19:10. | :19:10. | |
kick-off sees Liverpool, Steve Wilson's at Anfield | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
for Match of the Day 2. Thank you at Anfield, the Anfield | :19:14. | :19:23. | |
Road stand behind me which this week Liverpool have reaffirmed their | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
intention to develop, it would take capacity to over 60,000, but today | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
we are talking about Liverpool and Southampton with Jason McAteer. | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
Results have fallen for Liverpool last weekend, back in our hands | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
again, will they kick on and get in the top four? I do not think they | :19:39. | :19:45. | |
will let it slip today against Southampton, they came unstuck | :19:46. | :19:47. | |
against Southampton in the League Cup. They will get its done today, | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
the results last week but pressure on them going to Watford with great | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
performance, real resilience, they got in front and they held out which | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
we have seen Liverpool not to do this season. They have got the | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
opportunity in our hands. I think they will hold onto it and get over | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
the line. Playing first, Manchester United and Arsenal will play later, | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
that is a great incentive for Liverpool to get three points and I | :20:15. | :20:18. | |
think they can get it done. It is strange Liverpool have been wasteful | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
with points at Anfield. They put in strong performances away from home | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
but they have dropped points against teams you wouldn't expect them to | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
drop points to. Yes, you would talk about the Crystal Palace | :20:32. | :20:33. | |
performance, they got in front and it looks great because I do think | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
they came up here for a point and based -- and they made it difficult | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
to break them down. You got the free kick from Philippe Coutinho and you | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
felt the impetus was to score more but they got done with two bad | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
pieces of defending, 2-1. A bit of complacency slipped into their | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
performance that day and the nerves were jangling. And they lost the | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
game. The questions remain about the character and can they do it? I | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
think the performers away to Watford surprised critics and shut people | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
up. Given the opportunity to go on and get the result today, that would | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
secure a top four finish. Southampton have played Liverpool | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
three times this season and have not conceded a goal against Liverpool. | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
If Liverpool did not finish top four, Kloop is very popular and | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
charismatic, but if they miss out, how do we assess the season? I think | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
it would be a failure. We talk about the first half of the season being | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
fantastic and up yet's day when we beat Manchester City. And it was | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
fantastic and we got carried away winning the league. A realistic | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
approach after those disastrous ten games brought us back down to Earth | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
and really levelled out the season. A top four finish is on the cards | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
and we need to finish there, as progression for a club, you want to | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
be attracting different players. The ground, it is the redevelopment, it | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
is geared up for Champions League football and being one of those top | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
four. It is pivotal we finish in the top four and anything other than | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
that would be a disaster. It was a learning curve for Klopp, going out | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
of the FA Cup was a disaster and he will approach that differently next | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
season. We were unfortunate against Southampton that we missed out. It | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
would be a disaster to not get the top four finish. Liverpool against | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
Southampton in the sunshine today. 5 live's Ian Brown can | :22:34. | :22:34. | |
bring us the team news. If Liverpool win our last three | :22:35. | :22:42. | |
games, they will be in the Champions League next season for definite but | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
they need to sort out their stuttering home form against | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
Southampton today, who have won here in the League Cup and after | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
yesterday, they are officially safe from the drop. Liverpool are | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
unchanged from their win over Watford, so the dream is fit after | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
overcoming his dead leg. Adam Alana is on the bench. Southampton make | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
one change from the draw with Hull City. Ward-Prowse replacing Jason | :23:12. | :23:13. | |
Redmond. Thank you very much. Jonathan, you've interviewed | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
Emre Can this week. After a spectacular goal on Monday | :23:17. | :23:28. | |
night. He has been imported for Liverpool but I have felt | :23:29. | :23:30. | |
frustration at times from the crowd with him. He does divide opinion a | :23:31. | :23:38. | |
bit with some firmly in his camp. There is an element that think he | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
could do more. He said to me, I am only 23 and people don't realise | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
that. Because he has moved around in his career and he looks physically | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
mature, but he is still a young player. I was impressed with his | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
mentality and he has a contract situation he is not focused on. And | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
he was talking about the positivity that Liverpool will try and keep | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
even though they are under pressure to get the top four Place. He | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
sounded carefree and like Liverpool will take that into the game today | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
and forget that record against the smaller teams. It is like a Stephen | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
Gerrard moment when the player picks up the emotion and he plays with | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
inspiration, Watford making it difficult and a piece of brilliance, | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
scoring an unbelievable goal. He is growing into a man I did not know, | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
and did not know he was 23, he is finding them the right position, but | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
he is not going to be in the first 11 will stock is certainly a good | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
position that player and international player and he has come | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
forward when his club needs him. Position is key, he has played | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
full-back for Germany and at buy in Munich, Pep Guardiola thought he was | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
in a different position. He appreciates Klopp has put him in an | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
attacking midfield position and that is where he is best. You do not | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
practised overhead kicks but they have practised that run all week so | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
in a bit of help from the manager. As Steve Wilson said, Liverpool have | :25:12. | :25:14. | |
problems with Selt Southampton this season and I was at the League Cup | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
semifinal and Southampton were very impressive. Yes, but this is a | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
different time of the season and Southampton will have to not have | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
that approach Martin but Everton had at Swansea yesterday,, not on | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
holidays yet. This is a bit different. We were talking about | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
pressure and expectation getting to players and I do not think that will | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
affect Liverpool today. That club and squad, I do not think they have | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
that mentality in this sort of game. I think they will win this album -- | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
this afternoon. They need to be careful with Manolo Gabbiadini at | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
the top of this team. Talking about creating chances for that player to | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
score and they will turn up today. He came on with a burst and he has | :25:59. | :26:04. | |
not scored since. The two look at central defenders look suspect and | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
Gabbiadini's movement on the ball is as good as anybody. There was a | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
strange movement at the end of which that Watford game at it and the ball | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
was being crossed on the counterattack into Matip which was | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
crazy. Klopp is brilliant but it does have its drawbacks and that is | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
what we are talking about. But do you agree that that pressure will | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
not be a problem? I think they will play the same, for better or worse. | :26:35. | :26:39. | |
There is no pressure on them with 69 points, they will make it into the | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
Champions League and it is a case of getting the job done. You were | :26:43. | :26:49. | |
talking about the age of Emre Can at 23, George Honeyman is 22 and it is | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
only his second Premier League start. For the first half of the | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
game, he was the best player on the field and David Morris said he | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
thinks players get put into early. The reason he played so well was, he | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
said, because he has been able to ritual and he has grown and this is | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
the right time. Everyone is saying it Young Player of the Year, Michael | :27:13. | :27:18. | |
Keane, he is 24, what is a younger age for a player now? It depends on | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
the individual. A 22-year-old, but we do not think of Emre Can as | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
young. We do not need to rush young players. But last night, we were | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
praising beat anniversary of Michael Owen bursting onto the scene as a | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
17-year-old. And on the subtitles, it said, I am a light loan. But on | :27:41. | :27:47. | |
the subtitles watching Match of the Day! Let's go to the Emirates. | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
At 4 o'clock, on 5 Live, it's commentary on Arsenal | :27:55. | :27:56. | |
Is this one of the most low-key Arsenal and Manchester United games | :27:57. | :28:05. | |
you can remember in a long time? Yes, it certainly is, you go back to | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
1978 and 1979 when both teams finished outside the top four and it | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
has been a long while since they have had their guts and | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
determination of in Martin Keown Arsenal defender against Manchester | :28:21. | :28:23. | |
United and it is a strange affair. Jose Mourinho will rest players for | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
this. A lot has been made of the fact he will play in reserve team. | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
He will bring Genk de Gea, Smalling, Marshall, Rooney. But I do think | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
there will be youngsters on the bench like 35 macro, but still a | :28:40. | :28:45. | |
strong but United sides today. The intensity of the old clashes to win | :28:46. | :28:51. | |
a week, they are long gone. And on the evidence of this season, it will | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
be a while before they reappear. Because of their involvement in the | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
Europa league, is it more of a must win for United Guest, he has made it | :29:02. | :29:08. | |
clear that is his priority, Mourinho, winning back the Europa | :29:09. | :29:10. | |
League and getting into the Champions League through that route. | :29:11. | :29:17. | |
He might set a model for that. It is make or break for Arsenal and they | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
need to give this to slip up. On the evidence of 2017, they do not | :29:23. | :29:24. | |
deserve to be in the Champions League. This group of players have | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
gone as far as they can under Arsene Wenger is said he had probably got | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
it wrong when he announced earlier this calendar year he would make an | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
announcement in March, April, we have made that and still no | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
announcement has been made and that lack of clarity has affected Arsenal | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
and I think he would have players back today. Holdings could come into | :29:50. | :29:51. | |
the right side of the centre-back and I would be surprised if Danny | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
Welbeck did not come back and there is speculation about Shkodran | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
Mustafi, he might be on the bench. This is vital for Arsenal, they need | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
that clarity and they need to know where Sanchez will be. They do not | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
think he will be here, it would not be surprised if he went to Bayern | :30:10. | :30:13. | |
Munich and Ithaca Olivier Giroud moves on and if the two does not get | :30:14. | :30:20. | |
any contract. This stadium needs those old Manchester United and | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
Arsenal title winning at the matches back. | :30:25. | :30:32. | |
Thank you, Jonathan. Birmingham and Nottingham Forest and Blackburn are | :30:33. | :30:38. | |
all winning and that means that Blackburn would be relegated which | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
come on their first-half performance would be very harsh, but even though | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
they are winning at Brentford, because Forest in Birmingham are | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
winning, they are back in the bottom three. Jonathan North Croft, if he | :30:50. | :30:57. | |
does play a weakened side here, Jose Mourinho, whilst taking Jonathan's | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
point there's a lot of international talent he can bring in, United | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
aren't in the final yet, is it little dangerous? Playing a weakened | :31:08. | :31:14. | |
side? Putting all your eggs in one basket. I think it's common sense | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
that hard added maybe, when you look at United's position, I think it | :31:22. | :31:29. | |
said Jose Mourinho up for one of his classic performances he has wheeled | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
out against Arsenal quite a lot. I think it will be a fairly grim | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
Manchester United today. Is made his excuse. He's got youngsters and half | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
the team and he will try to nick a 1-0. Are you excited about this | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
game? Not quite as we were. It would have been first and second. I'm | :31:50. | :31:55. | |
interested to know what side Manchester United play. Marcus | :31:56. | :32:02. | |
Rashford has been outstanding. We know Ibrahimovic is injured. I would | :32:03. | :32:08. | |
like to see Danny Welbeck coming in. I'm interested in Ozil and will you | :32:09. | :32:17. | |
work hard today? I know he's talked about his body language, but he's | :32:18. | :32:24. | |
not running, not covering distance, he does not look like he's really | :32:25. | :32:28. | |
there. I think he's demonstrating this is what your going to get from | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
me if you're going to keep me so you may as well get rid of me. If you | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
had a family with two children who overindulged, it's like that with | :32:39. | :32:43. | |
Ozil and Sanchez and they have acted like children and it's become | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
embarrassing. I don't think you can put two players above all else, is | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
much as they are great talents. It affects the rest of the group and | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
they would like to see a reaction from the other players. I think they | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
have been too nice, too accommodating, and today that has to | :33:00. | :33:01. | |
change because there's an outside chance in the Champions League. I | :33:02. | :33:05. | |
don't think it will happen. There was an FA Cup in the distance, but | :33:06. | :33:09. | |
they have got to turn it around and while Ozil is there, he needs to | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
perform until the end of the season because, at the moment, I don't | :33:14. | :33:16. | |
believe he's giving everything to the team. A weakened team, lack of | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
intensity. Daniel Taylor in the Observer newspaper says this morning | :33:23. | :33:29. | |
Jose Mourinho isn't really seeing Arsene Wenger as a threat any more. | :33:30. | :33:33. | |
He has not mellowed his relationship with him but there are bigger | :33:34. | :33:37. | |
battles to pick with other managers. I think that's absolutely spot-on | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
although I think we make far too much because we enjoy it, of these | :33:41. | :33:48. | |
managerial feuds. Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho are OK now, there's | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
nothing going on there particularly. That of a problem that goes back a | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
long time but it's mellowed because Arsene Wenger isn't a threat. On | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
team selection, United will be as strong as you like today. I don't | :34:01. | :34:07. | |
think that will be an issue. These guys are incredible winners of | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
trophies. It is right the relationship is improving. If | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
Richard Bevan has not been on the both of them to change their | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
behaviour, they set an example to all the managers about how to | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
behave. They are behaved very well to do it. It's difficult, emotional, | :34:24. | :34:28. | |
but you have to show class. I think it started with Jose Mourinho having | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
a pop eyed Arsene Wenger for many years. I think there's one manager | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
that Jose Mourinho has a pop at this year and that's Antonio Conte. It's | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
the only time he's done it. It tells you he sees as a threat at the | :34:47. | :34:53. | |
moment. He's won the League Cup, Manchester United not interested in | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
it, but they are operating above that level most of the time, and if | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
they win the Europa League as well and the Champions League, it has to | :35:02. | :35:05. | |
be an unqualified success of a season like you wouldn't have | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
believed at the start of the campaign in his first year. They | :35:08. | :35:12. | |
wouldn't be in the top ten in terms of entertainment, but Manager of the | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
Year, Antonio Conte will get it. I think we all know he's doing a good | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
job. I don't think it is stated in a. He's not an also-ran but his | :35:23. | :35:30. | |
understanding how other managers feel when they don't win games. He | :35:31. | :35:33. | |
maybe understands Arsene Wenger more. If he stopped going on about | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
two games a week, something has gone wrong. You should be playing twice a | :35:39. | :35:44. | |
week. If you stop for that, he would get more praise for what is doing. | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
The whole club, as all of the top clubs, are geared up, surely, to | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
playing twice a week and being in finals and European competitions. | :35:55. | :36:00. | |
It's a bit tiring now, isn't it? He has done well but it reminds me of | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
Liverpool 's plastic season. They are geared to challenge for the | :36:07. | :36:09. | |
title and the Champions League and it's good what he has done but this | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
is what Manchester United's real agenda is. It's a stepping stone to | :36:15. | :36:25. | |
other trophies in the future. They're things he wants to win. It's | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
not his fault he is in the Europa League. He's had a lot of injuries, | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
also. One after another. Serious injuries, as well. Why'd you think | :36:36. | :36:43. | |
United should sign Jermain Defoe? We were talking about Sergio Aguero and | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
finishing chances and the story of United's season in the Premier | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
League has been ten goals at home, failing to put away small teams, and | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
I'm not saying Jermain Defoe would be a starting player, but if you | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
think about Ferguson using him, and Henrik Larsson, an experienced | :37:01. | :37:07. | |
player, it's a job United need to do against small teams. I can't think | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
of anyone better to have somebody to play 15 games a season than Jermain | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
Defoe. The half-time whistle has gone in the Championship games. 12 | :37:17. | :37:21. | |
o'clock kick-offs. Three side threatened with relegation at the | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
start of the day. They are all winning for the Birmingham City, | :37:26. | :37:32. | |
Nottingham Forest and lack burn took a 2-0 early lead at Brentford -- | :37:33. | :37:38. | |
Blackburn. As things stand, they are being relegated and Nottingham | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
Forest and Birmingham would be safe. Newcastle are winning as well, by | :37:46. | :37:49. | |
the way. They are 1-0 against Barnsley and that would mean, as | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
things stand, Newcastle would be the Championship champions. Lets just | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
touch on the Friday night games. Spurs losing at West Ham which means | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
Chelsea, if they win their next two games tomorrow night and on Friday | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
night, at West Bromwich, they will be the champions. Is the best way to | :38:08. | :38:12. | |
look at this that Spurs have done well to make it last until now? | :38:13. | :38:17. | |
They've won nine games on the bounce. They'd been quite brilliant | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
but just not enough. They are improving, getting better, but it's | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
one of those we talked earlier about the bottom end of the table need him | :38:28. | :38:30. | |
to make sure nothing else matters in your life but being a champion. | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
That's how it has to be. It takes me back to these battles with | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
Manchester United. It's almost like an imaginary tug-of-war and no | :38:42. | :38:44. | |
Chelsea have that rope, they can feel it coming their way and it will | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
be an easy finish for them but, while you're in there, you think | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
it's never going to end and you have got to give it everything you can. | :38:52. | :38:57. | |
It's suddenly gone for Tottenham but they got to hang onto the players | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
that got them where they are. I think they need a winner in the camp | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
and need to go and buy somebody, big-name, someone who can say, we | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
can keep doing it, trust me, one more game, Chelsea will break next | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
time. They need that type of player, someone they can turn to in the | :39:17. | :39:19. | |
group who's been a serial winner of trophies. There's no real winners in | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
there who's got experience and I think that lets them down at vital | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
times. I think we can discount as little notion they may have bottled | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
it. That's nonsense. They are better than last season. The two big | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
signings in the summer didn't work. But they are still better than they | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
were. My worry for Tottenham is was this their best shot at it because | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
Wembley next season, you never know, it might work for them. They may | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
have overcome their demons but I'm not sure. I think it could be a | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
drop-off. They don't like the bigger picture. London stadiums seem to | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
be... Ericsson surprised me the most. He was very wasteful and | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
heeded this last season. They were brilliant until now. You've got to | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
hang in there for some even when things are going badly. They could | :40:10. | :40:13. | |
have won that game against West Ham but it's fallen away. There was an | :40:14. | :40:17. | |
outside chance, but they shouldn't be down on what they have done for | :40:18. | :40:20. | |
that they need to do something better next season. Rather than do | :40:21. | :40:27. | |
the age old who can they keep hold of this summer and who might they | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
lose? Flip it around, and look at how they strengthen this summer? The | :40:32. | :40:39. | |
club all around them are likely to spend more money than Spurs, and | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
they've got to think about moving into the new ground. That's a | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
financial concern as well. Last summer didn't necessarily work and | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
it's about finding the right players who will enhance the squad but may | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
not necessarily... Surely the starting XI... I think they can go | :41:02. | :41:05. | |
and level up from Vincent Jansen. Maybe he was they could attract that | :41:06. | :41:11. | |
type of player last summer. Playing it Wembley could be a big carrot, | :41:12. | :41:15. | |
every week, the biggest stage in England. I think Martin is dead | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
right, it's bringing in that mentality but experienced players | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
cost money. That will be the big issue. And are their heads turned in | :41:25. | :41:33. | |
difficult situations? We had this with Arsenal, the Wembley situation | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
and then not winning trophies on the players want to go everywhere else | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
because the grass looks greener. Keep them believing in what they're | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
doing. They have a fantastic manager, keep him there, but he has | :41:45. | :41:48. | |
got to be seen to be pushing that football club. They've got an | :41:49. | :41:50. | |
excellent training ground and the stadium looks amazing but spend the | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
money on the football side, something Arsenal didn't do, by the | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
way. They did not want to go into debt. Speculate to Achaemenid and it | :42:00. | :42:06. | |
could pay full stop Jansen and Sissoko, the club could be in | :42:07. | :42:11. | |
trouble again. Nigel says Spurs are growing up to finish, it's amazing. | :42:12. | :42:18. | |
Sean said the simple fact Spurs finish second and Arsenal win the FA | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
Cup, I'd rather be an Arsenal fan because nobody remembers the team | :42:23. | :42:28. | |
that finishes second. Get in touch. Do you see Chelsea winning the title | :42:29. | :42:33. | |
on Friday? I think they will beat Middlesbrough. West Bromwich, I | :42:34. | :42:41. | |
wouldn't go high stakes on it. It would be like Tony Pulis to make his | :42:42. | :42:47. | |
way to make us wait a week longer. Making sure it'll be the hardest | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
night of the season but they will do it, I think. Antonio Conte is | :42:53. | :42:57. | |
ferocious in his intensity. Will they have a similarly big summer | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
like Spurs well? Not as big brother Champions League new horizon for | :43:05. | :43:16. | |
them and the thing is departures. Lukaku, does he fit in with the | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
Antonio Conte approach? I think it will make it work. He's a player you | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
have to challenge. He is now the top goal-scorer in the Premier League | :43:25. | :43:27. | |
with Harry Kane might have got two or three on Friday night, maybe | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
worked a bit harder yesterday, I think is that sort of player. You | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
got to set goals for him. Chelsea and Middlesbrough is tomorrow night | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
so you'll be able to listen to that game on Radio 5 Live and there's a | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
special Match of the Day tomorrow for the Arsenal and Manchester | :43:47. | :43:49. | |
United is on later. They will keep you across the Championship at the | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
moment and you can find out who goes down. Me and Martin are off to play | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
tug-of-war. See you next week. | :43:58. | :44:01. |