16/04/2017 MOTD2 Extra

Good afternoon and welcome to Match of the Day 2 Extra on BBC Two,

Radio 5 Live and the BBC Sport website.

Joining me, former England and Leeds defender Danny Mills, ex-Fulham,

Middlesbrough and Chelsea goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer and Jason Burt,

who is the Telegraph's chief football correspondent.

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Coming up, Tottenham close the gap on Chelsea to four points

Antonio Conte's side play Jose Mourinho's Manchester United

Ross Barkley was influential as Everton beat Burnley

And we'll talk relegation and Sunderland after "Moyes out"

chants during their 2-2 draw with West Ham.

In The Sunday Times, a big picture of Harry Kane with the headline

"In with a shout", and quoting Mauricio Pochettino as saying "Heat

is on the Blues now, no one wants to kill us".

The Express - Ranieri's Hornet mission, saying Ranieri could take

over from Walter Mazzarri at Watford.

The Mail on Sunday, "Real's lifeline for exile Hart",

saying, "Courtois or De Gea wanted by Real Madrid."

It will depend which one is chosen. We will start with Courtois and De

Gea's clubs, and focus on the big game at 4pm between Man United and

Chelsea. Some team news coming in. It comes from the Belgian

journalist, and you save this is likely to be correct. He is saying

there will be no Thibaut Courtois for Chelsea because he has suffered

an ankle injury. He is very well connected to all of the Chelsea

players, so this should be correct. A big blow for Chelsea. Changing the

back line at Chelsea will make a big difference today. It will be

interesting to see whether David De Gea plays. Definitely some fuel to

the fire that there is a bit of a rift between him and Mourinho. It

would be extraordinary if neither De Gea or Courtois plays today. Does it

make a difference to you as a defender if your keeper changes late

in the day? Definitely. You know that if you make a mistake that nine

times out of ten, he will bail you out. An extra bit of confidence. It

is like playing with two centre halves. You know what he is going to

do, where he comes with crosses, where he will throw the ball out. It

becomes second nature, and the change can put a doubt in your mind.

Those automatic things, like passing it back to him. You know where he

will come for a cross and you go to the line. If the new keeper comes

in, you don't know if he goes for crosses. It is those tiny things

that can make a difference in a game of this magnitude. If it all comes

true, it will be Joe Hart's first start of the season. But he is and

an experienced keeper. The players will know him, they train with him

every day. But there is a bit of a down sometimes. You have to ask

yourself, does he come out, which foot do you need to play back to

him? But the fact that the understanding is there between those

players, the transition will be pretty seamless. In your experience,

just on that keeper issue, during training during the week, if you

have both keepers available, does the first team train with both

keepers just in case something like this happens? It doesn't tend to

happen too much. You do swap and change a bit through various drills,

but ultimately, if you are working on 11 C 11, you generally stick with

the number one who plays in those positions. What is interesting is

the fact he has played all those Europa League games, Premier League

games this season, so he will have trained enough times with his

team-mates for them to fully understand his game. What is going

on with Mourinho and David De Gea? And the bigger picture of Mourinho

and his comment about his players at different times this season? Is

interesting, because to the outside world, you would think it is an area

that Manchester United do not have to worry about. But Mourinho likes

to push his players, and he has identified certain things in De Gea

that he doesn't like recently. Not quite sure what. I'm not sure if De

Gea has reacted in the way Mourinho wanted him to. We have seen him

across the whole team, criticising defenders and strikers. I think it

is symptomatic of his own frustration. That is the biggest

issue at United. They are not where he wants them to be and he hasn't

had the season he wanted to have at United. They can still salvage it,

but it hasn't worked out how he wanted. The key is that he has had

words with De Gea and he hasn't reacted in the way he wanted him to.

I know he has a big fan of Ron Mayo, because he is a big personality

among the players. And he is admired the way he has been professional,

gone about his business and tried to motivate the team, at a time when he

hasn't played. Maybe De Gea wasn't easier decision than you might

think. There is an argument with how he has criticised Luke Shaw. Luke

Shaw has said it himself in an interview with sky. He said that he

has admitted he may be wasn't as professional as he could have been.

Is that the frustration of Mourinho with a lot of his players? Possibly.

Luke Shaw isn't the first person to have been criticised, and it isn't

the first time Luke Shaw has been criticised because of his

professionalism. You have to give him credit. He has held his hand up

and said, yes, he has to turn it around. You have to say, well done

to Luke Shaw. On the other side, Mourinho will be looking at that

saying, that is the response I want, that is the type of player I want to

keep here. If you were in the United squad, which you want him to stop

battering you in public? It is Mourinho's frustrations. He has been

asking the players to do certain things. Maybe they haven't been as

professional as they could have been. Steven Gerrard has been saying

the same thing. Unbelievably talented players at the Liverpool

Academy. Are they prepared to work the hardest, be the best, push

themselves and sacrifice everything to be the ultimate players? Being

good isn't enough any more. And that is what Mourinho wants from his

team. Never criticised Ibrahimovic, because his attitude is phenomenal.

And Gameiro is similar. If you work hard you will be forgiven for making

mistakes. If you have that talent and it is a waste, that is a massive

frustration. Ibrahimovic is his own man. He doesn't tend to go after

people he has brought in. He didn't go after Pogba either. But he did

criticised Ibrahimovic this week after the Europa League game. He

does give them time, and he has them as his man, but he will dig them out

if he knows he can take it. Ibrahimovic can clearly take it

because he understands Mourinho. He has had a pop at him, and

Ibrahimovic said that he wasn't good enough and could be better. The Mail

on Sunday RC realising Mesut Ozil's book. The headline to do with

Mourinho and their time at Real Madrid together, was that Mourinho

had danced around the dressing room and imitated him saying that he

mustn't get hurt and mustn't get dirty. He said to him, what do you

want? To crawl into a nice warm shower and be on your own, or to

show the fans what you are capable of? You know what, Mesut Ozil? Go

away and cry. We do not need you. But that is inside the dressing

room. That is OK. Of course. It is his frustration. He goes so far to

criticise that group within those people, and if he doesn't get the

response he wants, then he takes it outside to the public domain. And

says, this is why I am disappointed and frustrated with him, and let's

see the response. With Luke Shaw... Luke Shaw is the perfect example. He

gave him a bit early on. He didn't see the response in training, and

then he gave him a bit more responsibility. He still didn't

respond, so he thought, where do I take it from here? I have a good,

talented player who isn't doing the work rate and isn't performing in

front of the young players. So it is his last resort. I remember when Joe

Cole was at Chelsea and scored the winning goal. It was a great eulogy

about his abilities, -- it wasn't a great eulogy. He said that he had

played for himself. And Joe Cole was very upset about it. It is happening

every week now. We didn't get that before. I feel the frustration. With

teams he has been at before, he has always been the top of the league,

or there and thereabouts. If he has been criticising people, it's

been... At Chelsea, he was explaining things a bit more. Now he

is lashing out a bit more. I think he has realised how big a job it is

to change the mentality in the changing room. To create that

winning mentality and pressurised environment, for young players, what

the expectations are at a club like Manchester United, what Mourinho is

used to at every club he has been at. Since Alex Ferguson has left,

those senior players have all disappeared. Those senior players

will have run that dressing room. He keeps talking about Ferguson's squad

and how he wouldn't have let those players go, and that is the point.

Players like Hernandez, Danny Welbeck... He wouldn't have let them

go. Now Chelsea. Two Chelsea players nominated for the PFA Player of the

Year, Hazard and Kante. Didier Drogba has been talking to Dan

Walker. Whenever you interview a Chelsea player this season and you

mention N'Golo Kante, a smile comes on his faith. If you had a

nomination for Player of the Year, would you give it to someone like

Hazard? I think Eden would have it, because he is my man. And I think

Kante, because we don't speak a lot about these kind of players, so I

think I would go for Kante Player of the Year, and Eden Hazard player of

players. And the man you say is your man, Hazard. How good is he? How

good could he be? Could he be on a level of Messi and Reynaldo? I think

right now he is 75, 80% of his talent. That is the reality. I take

it you want to see him stay at Chelsea? I think it is important for

Chelsea to keep their best players if they want to win the Champions

League. Didier Drogba with Dan Walker. Is that fair on Hazard to

say he is only playing at 80%? He means 80% of his potential. He has

an immense amount of his ability. When I was there, the one criticism

was that I didn't feel he worked hard enough on the training field to

bet that quality that he had. Particularly this season, he has

been made almost to do it. The expectation, the law was set at the

beginning when Conte came in and said, we are going to work hard and

get fitter. One person who has benefited immensely from that is

Hazard. When you talk about working harder, are you talking about

putting extra time in on the training field practising your

skills? Bringing it back to tracking back and running? All of the above.

When I was there, the time in training you think, how can that guy

be like this in training, when he was way below par, and then produce

that in a game? I remember saying to him on one occasion, you need to

perform like that every week? Why can't you do it every week? The

potential is enormous. He went, one week I perform well, one week I

don't. I have interviewed him, and he is quite laid back. He isn't

somebody who gives the impression he tried himself in that way. He enjoy

his his ability and enjoys playing football. I can understand why that

would be annoying for his team-mates. I think his attitude has

definitely changed. He is fit as well. He had a hip problem all last

season which caused an issue for him. Chelsea rested him a lot, and

he has slightly changed position as well. He's not working in the same

way he was under Mourinho. I think he felt he was driven into the

ground a bit. The expectation for him to work

harder across the board, for everybody to be fitter, and I have

watched him a lot this season and he has tracked back. He has done it

without somebody on the sidelines demanding it. We know how hard

Ronaldo has worked on his game. We see how hard Messi works on his

game, Suarez, Andres Iniesta, those players. When you read their books,

they give everything in every session, no matter what. Their drive

is ultimately to be the best. Does Eden Hazard have that drive? Maybe

he's starting to get it. He has to do it everyday. You can't have two

or three days. I think Conte needs credit for how he has dealt with

him. He has been able to get that out of Hazard without Hazard

realising he is doing it until afterwards. He has drilled him

knowing that he's going to do this work without him even realising it.

Because he is so fit, it will not affect him going forward. Your texts

and tweets are coming in. Somebody says it should be an easy win, but

the else says Manchester United don't have the bottle. Paul in

Swansea says Spurs are the best side in the country and they are playing

wonderful football. We will talk about Spurs' win over Bournemouth

and how they have cut the gap to four points in a moment, but the

first game this afternoon is West Brom against Liverpool, and had

Murphy will be at the Hawthorns. Tony Pulis has an excellent record

in home games against Liverpool and he will be looking for a decent

performance today, because West Brom haven't scored first in five of the

last six league games. There is a feeling they have gone off the boil.

Tony Pulis bridles at this, and he wants to ensure they get their best

ever tally of Premier League points, they are five behind it. Today,

Jacob and brands come in. Robson Khan becomes an upfront. Liverpool,

Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho are both feet -- are both

fit and will start. So does Lucas. One clean sheet in 13 games for

Jurgen Klopp and he is concerned about the heavy artillery that West

Brom offer at set pieces. Pact will keep everybody on five live

up-to-date with that game throughout the afternoon, and then there is

coverage of Manchester United- Chelsea at 4pm. Tony Pulis said,

head of this game, we are in an unbelievable position at West Brom,

whether we finish in the top ten or not, we are at the top of our group.

We can't do better. If people think we can be better year after year,

let's get a billionaire in so I can spend the money. Is that an attempt

to try and get more money to spend this summer or is it realistic, or a

bit depressing? I think it's realistic. I feel a bit sorry for

Tony Pulis at times. West Brom had a very low budget of players' wages,

transfer fees. Look where he has got them? Unbelievable, to be eight in

the table at the moment. Sensational, what he's done, but he

still gets criticised for the way they play. If they played great

football and got relegated, he'd been criticised for that. We know

what he does, what can he do? They are never going to have the biggest

budget and they are punching so far above their weight. It's almost

ridiculous. I think he deserves a lot of credit. His way of playing

isn't everybody's cup of tea but it is winning football, and it's

guaranteed he will keep them in the Premier League this season, next

season. When I said, do you find it depressing, what I meant is that

they are well coached, well drilled, they have played well at times this

season, and yet they are eighth in the Premier League, that's their

limit, which isn't what you go into football bowl. No, but Leicester...

It is out there. Every club is in the country thinking, OK, but

Leicester City did that. It will probably not happen again for a long

time. I think that the big clubs will rearm. West Brom are not going

to win the Premier League, for a while! Iron I think that's a problem

for a lot of managers. What Leicester did. Oglesby clubs think

all of that argument is correct before, oh, but Leicester. With West

Brom, you have to look at cup competitions. They haven't done well

in the cup competitions. A 50 points total is important, trying to get

into one of the European places. They have hit a ceiling in terms of

winning the league, and cup competitions is what they need look

at. He probably has a squad of 15, 16 players, nothing beyond that.

When you look at the clubs above that, you know, they have squads of

20, 25 quality players and multi-million pound signings. He has

brought some young players in. They have got an awful lot more TV money.

Big clubs will buy in better players, but you can buy smartly.

Mourinho a few years ago did say that every club can buy players who

could play for Chelsea now. You couldn't buy a whole team, but you

could buy one or two, and on their day they could hurt everybody else.

At the beginning of the season, he didn't have the money at his

disposal, he wasn't given the money to bring players in. A lot was said

about it, a lot of frustration from the Hawthorns from the fans, they

wore on his back. So he really dealt with that very well. The team dealt

with that well and they turned things around dramatically. He

mentioned again at... There was a bit of a tug-of-war going on. But

now he really seems to have full control and he has his team playing

well. Let's move on to Spurs. You were at White Hart Lane yesterday.

How impressed were you with Spurs? Very impressed. Everywhere you look

in that team, you are impressed with the way that they play. I think the

approach to the game... They could have easily gone into that game

thinking, we are going to win at home. The only criticism new half of

yesterday is that they were probably not as clinical with their finishing

as they would have liked. -- the only criticism you would have. They

dealt with everything. I thought Bournemouth were very poor. They set

up the wrong way as well and Tottenham just looked at the moment,

seven wins in a row now, and they are on top form. Matt sent us a text

or a tweet, Danny Mills, and says that the good thing about Spurs is

they have a young team. It's only a matter of time before they dominate

the league. That's difficult. They have an exceptional squad of 13

players. Beyond that, it's a bit light. The difficulty is going to be

bringing three or four players in to strengthen without upsetting

everybody else. Ultimately, they need back-up for Harry Kane at some

point if they are going to compete. And Janssen isn't that? Not that

I've seen. It's only his first season. You busy last player he was

a good player. -- last season. They need proper back-up for Harry Kane.

But if you bring in a top name, are they happy to sit on the bench?

Centre-backs, those areas... As back-up? Yeah, a delicate balance of

bringing in quality who is not needing to play every week. They

have to do that if they are going to challenge for the Premier League,

Champions League and domestic cups. I'd agree, because the first 11 at

Tottenham is strong as anything. Personally, I think they are

stronger than Chelsea. Beyond that, the Gulf is great. You look at the

squad and you think, OK, they need to buy more players, but how do you

improve the 11? I'm not sure how you do that. And then you have a manager

who is moulding this team together, and they are also sort of... It's

almost like a religious cult with him. They are so into playing for

Pochettino. I travel around Europe a lot and for the clubs, all the big

clubs ask me about Pochettino. They say, what do you think of him? They

are all looking at him and seeing how far they can take Tottenham, how

long he wants to stay with them. Everybody is genuinely interested to

see how far he goes. That is the biggest challenge for Spurs in the

near future, even as soon as the summer. Firstly, keeping hold of

some of these players and, second, the manager. They've got to deal

with the fact that they are building a new stadium which will cost them a

lot. How much money will they have to invest in the squad? They are in

a precarious situation for the in one sense, unbelievably exciting

because of how good the team is, but can they keep hold of it and win

something? Am I being naive when I say, why would you leave Spurs at

the moment, in the sense of, they are a good, young team with a great

manager, a new stadium coming, they obviously all get on and they play

well. Why would you leave? I think they need some tweaks. They've got

to be careful not to turn into Arsenal and become a top four team

for the next ten, 15 years, whatever it may be. They have to have the

next level and really challenge, or start winning. What do they start

with the FA Cup? You've got to invest in that. That stadium will be

a huge burden. We saw what happened Arsenal over the years. How much

money will they have to go out and invest? They are not the biggest

players in the world. Whether it is right or wrong, players will turn to

money at some stage. Over time, moving to a bigger stadium, the pay

aspect will change. They will have more revenue coming in and there

will be huge expectations. Several of those players might offered

double money next year. They have to try and manage the situation. It's

going to be an interesting time for Spurs. In a lot of ways, really

exciting for the fans but, on the other hand, you'd be concerned about

keeping the players. And Pochettino is a fabulous contrast we were in

Brazil, and give him two or three transfer windows, and he would have

topped up there challenging. He was right. On the FA Cup bit...? In the

semifinal next Saturday, they are playing Chelsea. If Chelsea lose

today and it is four points, they beat Chelsea next Saturday, what

then happens? It's psychologically interesting. I think they know they

have to win a trophy, the players know, the manager knows. He knows

all the praise around him, how people read him, but he knows that

people say, you haven't won a trophy. -- how people rates him. It

becomes important for the manager himself. That is why I mention

Arsenal. It's important for fans to win trophies and challenge, but how

important is that to the board? I think it's important. They are very

early in finishing in the top four cycle. It's going to be different

Arsenal. If they don't gamble when they've got a great chance, a great

team of players, a great young side, if they don't gamble and add to

that, those players will start to drift away. If you were a betting

man, I'd say it was a steady bet. The fact that they are such good

quality players... The biggest challenge they have got is to keep

hold of those players. If they don't win something sooner rather than

later, that will get more difficult. When you say you go around Europe

and clubs are asking about it... Genuinely. He has ruled himself out

of both Arsenal and Barcelona. So which club... Should I say? I'm not

saying the once you have spoken to, but which do you think that Spurs

fans should be most worried about at the top of European football? We are

not too far from one here, obviously. Manchester United have

obviously thought about him. They are very happy with Jose Mourinho,

they say. It is a better calibre of clubs to the top clubs. If he

couldn't do us alone in the derailment rate. Absolutely. He

clearly is a very good... It's been interesting to me how often people

ask me about him in the Premier League. Marco Silva is coming

through at Hull. Everybody is talking about him, but early days.

There is a touch of Pochettino about him. People talk about those two.

Obviously, Conte, clearly, he has done so well, but those two. But

people want to talk about Pochettino. Let me ask you one more

thing, the quote from this week, I think there was a bad period at the

end of last season when we spent is not fighting Leicester, Chelsea,

West Brom and the media. Now we spend time and energy fighting in

the right way. The world was trying to help Leicester. The team at all

the world tried to kill was Tottenham. Does he have a point?

Definitely. Even though I was at Leicester, I sat back and thought,

people shouldn't be saying that. Tony Pulis shouldn't have said that

before the game, nor should Eden Hazard. That wasn't right. I felt

sorry for him. I was delighted that Leicester won the league, but to be

in his shoes, and everybody seemed to be against him. It must have

tough for him. Rod John says that Bournemouth are very poor run back

from anointing diverse as champions elect. -- are very poor at the

moment so let's roll back. Kieran says, Mourinho telling Mesut Ozil to

go and cry is hilarious. All that Mourinho does is go and cry if he

doesn't win. Jack Wilshere's loan move to Ballmer

has just created more issues. Do you agree with that? He has great

potential. At some point he's got to deliver. Four or five years ago we

were pinning England hopes on him. That is as much our fault as his. It

is, but he has so much talent. He has gone to a site that has

struggled all season and he hasn't shone. Made a bit of a mistake

yesterday. Tottenham fans were delighted at that. He hasn't gone

there and really stood out. He hasn't put a mark of their saying

actually, I have this experience and ability and I am better than you. I

don't know him personally or how he trains, and whether that comes down

to the amount of effort he puts into training. I think you are right. He

went to Bournemouth because they were going to create the right

environment for him, and opportunities abroad, and would give

him the right platform. And he just hasn't taken that opportunity. He

has had 20 starts and minimal impact. It sounds brutal at times,

but sometimes you have to say these things. The player hasn't delivered.

22 league starts, no goals for Jack Wilshere this season. Sunderland

moved a step closer to relegation yesterday with a draw to West Ham.

They are nine points from safety with six games left to play.

Interesting comments afterwards from Fabio Borini, who got the late

equaliser. We are not being at our level, we are not a united group

like previous seasons, which has probably been the problem. Positive

results like today and performances can bring the strength to the group

again and get everyone together. In our situation, we can only get

together, not individually. Why do you think that togetherness has been

missing this season? A little bit of problems within the dressing room,

but that is for us to deal with. The results, the injuries, that is part

of being united and keep believing. Listening to that on sports reports

yesterday, I wrote down, not as united as before. As we all watched

that then, we looked at each other in a slightly, wow, players are not

often that honest. They aren't. We have been in a similar situation

before as players. We know how tough it is down the bottom, and people

turn on each other when you do not have a strong core of players in the

dressing room, and also, not everyone is backing the manager. If

the core of players do not back the manager, that can affect the

dressing room. Sounds like there's a lot of finger-pointing going on in

the dressing room. They are thinking, hang on, we are going

down. You don't know this, but behind your head, there is a picture

of David Moyes pointing! You didn't know that was there! That is the

best timing ever! Accidental! I think that is exactly what it is.

People will be saying, hang on, we are going down. Where is my future

next season? They will not be that bothered about the cause of

Sunderland. People may say that's wrong, but it is a fact. Players

like Defoe might be thinking, where will I play next season? I do not

want to play in the Championship. Other players will be the same, and

they will try to apportion blame to everybody else, because that is what

footballers do. In the Groundhog Day of Sunderland's season, they

normally struggle, and then they bring someone in who unifies them,

save them, and disappears the following season. They were going to

get caught out eventually. They have been struggling. They have invested

this season. The manager has struggled. Players like Borini has

hardly killed himself this season. He has been pretty poor. They went

on a team bonding exercise to York a few weeks ago. And redundancies as

well. After Jermain Defoe, the next top scorer has got three. Van

Aanholt? They are struggling. Players like Khazri haven't been

playing that much this season. That is the manager's fault. May be

called players last season have felt a bit pushed out. There seems to be

some disquiet around the fans. That came out yesterday. It absolutely.

When he came into his technical area, there were chants of "Moyes

out". Rory says, he must go, even if we do have a player miracle. He has

no idea about tactics. It seems that Khazri's goal gave the Sunderland

fans some ammunition to have a go at David Moyes. Quite possibly. The

frustration in Sunderland has been there for a few years, and it has

now boiled over. It looks like there is no hope for Sunderland to stay in

the Premier League. Potentially, we said fair that this was a good thing

for Sunderland that they can sort this out. But they will have to

spend to get themselves out. Newcastle are second in the

Championship, and they have spent a lot of money. There is a danger they

could fall through again, because a lot of those players will disappear.

You have to get someone who is prepared to take the club on. There

will be players who want out. There are players in the changing room.

David Moyes came into the club and instantly said, we are fighting

relegation. And he was right to. You don't want to hear that. We talk

about honesty. After two games of the season, it's the wrong time to

talk about it. Possibly. But looking at the quality they had, he felt it

wasn't good. And maybe the frustration that he wasn't getting

players in. He did get some in, but possibly not his first choices. But

how many managers get their first choices? When you look at the

signings he made, they were almost desperation signings. There were a

lot of excuses around Sunderland. The fans have wooed other managers

here. Nobody seems to take... You would want somebody to take

responsibility, as a fan of that club. The owner basically wants to

sell the club. He wants to sell the club, but if you go into the

Championship, it is harder to sell. Especially at the price you want. So

Schwarzer is going to have to go again and then try to sell it. That

comes from the top. The bowler clearly doesn't want to be there.

That permeates all the way through the club. David says, Moyes is a

clueless manager. I don't see him being able to bring us back up.

85058, #bbcfootball to get in touch with us. Jason Burt in the studio

with me. Swansea and Hull, people saying that the final relegation

spot will be between those two. Hull beaten at Stoke, and Swansea lost at

Watford. I have been asked over the last 19 games, is this a must win

game? I have said no, because there's a lot of games to go. But

this next game is a must win for us. We are playing Stoke at home. The

biggest gain the club has had for years. Are the players up for it?

The first thing is to get over the disappointment of this, and then for

really big games of training. They know the magnitude of the Stoke

game. Players are not daft. They will know how big the Stoke game is.

But when the manager comes out and says, the biggest game in years,

does that increase the pressure? Not really, because they know the

magnitude of the game and the situation. Swansea have been there

or thereabouts for the majority of this season, but it is coming down

to the nitty-gritty end of the season, when you are running out of

games. Paul Clement said he was asked the same question ten games

ago, but now they are running out of games, and they have to start

winning. There's always one team that has a ridiculous... They will

have to score. They will. They have to games in hand. Whole lost

yesterday. Hull and Swansea have both got Sunderland to play, which

could be pivotal. It is going to be very tight, but two of those three

will go down. Above that, Bournemouth are fine, because not

all of them are going to get enough points to get out of it. Bournemouth

will pick up a couple. It is so tight down there. Swansea were not

disastrous yesterday. They had a go. On another day, Sigurdsson could

have scored three or four. They are a similar sort of club. If they go

down, Sigurdsson will go, Llorente will go... They will lose a lot of

top players. Home games are big for them. That is the difference between

the two clubs. Hull are going into home games with confidence, but

Swansea are going into all games... One thing that Marco Silva has done

at Hull, he is trying to win games. Most of the games he has gone at, he

has tried to win them. The last three home games, or three of them,

they have come from behind as well, which is a good sign. Losing at

Middlesbrough, and they came from behind. I was surprised they lost so

badly yesterday. That gives them a bit more of an edge than Swansea. I

think Swansea have had the lift under Paul Clement. I think they

started to believe they were safe. And Llorente's injury, who did not

look fit when he came back yesterday. I think Hull have a few

more options. I think they will probably do it. They have bought

options, and is there less expectation on Hull? You look at the

start of the season, they have a lot of first-team players. Keep the club

or sell the club as well. That seems to have been put to one side. Marco

Silva has done a great job. They seem to be getting better. The

results didn't go well yesterday, but they are better at home week in,

week out. Out of all the clubs, I think they have the best opportunity

to stay up. There is something that always says to me, every season,

someone goes on the run from nowhere and wins. It could be any of them.

You just don't know. It happens for no rhyme or reason. It could easily

be Hull. I think Bournemouth are safe. I don't think they can get

dragged into it at the moment. There is always a team that comes up with

two or three results. Six points will probably seek Hull safe. Boro

have to games in hand. Suddenly it is very congested again, and they

have a bit of confidence. One goal can make a big difference.

Middlesbrough need to start winning somewhere. They haven't been winning

home or away. It is Middlesbrough against Arsenal on Monday night,

which you will be able to hear on 5 Live. Thank you Danny, Mark and

Jason. Manchester United against Chelsea later. Goodbye.