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Hello and welcome to MOTD2 Extra on BBC Two and BBC Sport website. | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
Joining me, the former England and Arsenal defender, Matt Upson, Phil | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
Bardsley and Shaun Custis, head of sport at Sutton. We would love you | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
to get involved, use the hash tag #bbcfootball on social media and you | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
can text us on 85058. Coming up, yesterday's goals as Chelsea beat | :00:53. | :01:01. | |
Spurs. Who will they face? We look ahead to Arsenal against Manchester | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
City. Hull beat Watford, six wins out of seven under Marco Silva. They | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
boost their hopes of Prem league survival. Swansea beat Stoke to end | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
a six match winless run. In the papers, the Express, record bid for | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
Monaco starlet. In the Sun, Antonio Conte's big risk pays off. The Times | :01:26. | :01:36. | |
has double vision and a story about Manchester United's Zlatan | :01:37. | :01:43. | |
Ibrahimovic's career could be over. Quite a semifinal at Wembley, wasn't | :01:44. | :01:44. | |
it? Hugo Lloris on his toes. Willian | :01:45. | :01:55. | |
scores for Chelsea! Christian Eriksen. Good ball. Little flick on. | :01:56. | :02:04. | |
It is in the net! Harry Kane, who else? | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
Penalty. He has given it. Willian to put Chelsea in front. And he does! | :02:09. | :02:26. | |
That is a delightful ball. What a great goal. Dele Alli scores it but | :02:27. | :02:34. | |
Christian Eriksen makes it with one of the assists of the season. In | :02:35. | :02:38. | |
goes the corner kick. It is dangerous. It is Eden Hazard and it | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
is in! Eden Hazard scores for Chelsea! Eden Hazard for Chelsea. | :02:45. | :02:57. | |
Cesc Fabregas onside. Still Eden Hazard. Brilliant goal! The Man U | :02:58. | :03:07. | |
matter which hammers Chelsea to within touching distance of the FA | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
Cup final itself -- Nemanja Matic. That goal is ludicrous. Five shots | :03:13. | :03:19. | |
on target. Four goals. You were at Wembley. It was a pleasure to be | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
there. Fantastic atmosphere which you always get with semifinals at | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
Wembley, you get a bigger allocation for the fans. Chelsea answered some | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
questions yesterday. April were beginning to doubt them. Spurs | :03:35. | :03:39. | |
answered other questions, are they the real deal? -- people were | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
beginning to doubt them. Spurs said they could put pressure on Chelsea | :03:43. | :03:49. | |
psychologically if they won. It has been a hammer blow for Spurs. With | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
Chelsea, the one thing Antonio Conte has done is he has put trust in | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
other players around the starting XI which has served him so well this | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
season. Chelsea walk away from that game knowing that the manager trusts | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
the whole squad and he can structure the team and bring players on and | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
leave players out of the team and still get a great result. He would | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
have been slaughtered if it had gone wrong, leaving Eden Hazard and Diego | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
Costa on the bench. Absolutely. The players they have got... Willian, | :04:22. | :04:31. | |
Pedro. I think obviously leaving Diego Costa and Eden Hazard out goes | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
to show the strength and depth of the squad. They have come to the | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
fore and as a defender myself, 75 minutes, 70 minutes, seeing Eden | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
Hazard about to come on, your worst nightmare. What is that like? | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
Normally he starts the game you can engage with him early doors. Coming | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
off the bench, fresh, raring to go, semifinal of the cup, he is there to | :05:00. | :05:04. | |
make a statement and he did that. Eden Hazard was rested but Diego | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
Costa was dropped. Two big players. Questions about Diego Costa go on. | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
They are fed up with him, the constant courting of the move. It | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
has been happening again this season. Is he fully focused on the | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
job? Eden Hazard is fully focused. When you see him come on, that must | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
have made Spurs thing, we are almost out on our feet, we have fought | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
hard, we have had the possession, a player like him comes on... I | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
thought Diego Costa was pretty good when he came on. He roughed them up. | :05:37. | :05:41. | |
But Eden Hazard made the 10% difference. With Diego Costa, he is | :05:42. | :05:49. | |
on the verge of maybe winning the FA Cup, Premier League, you can | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
understand why his head would be turned up about or cash! Come on, | :05:53. | :06:00. | |
Phil. Winning trophies is what it is all about. Look at his age and the | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
stage of his career, to make that decision about money now is a big | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
call because you look back and say, you look at the real achievements in | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
your life of what football brings, it is the title winning teams, | :06:15. | :06:18. | |
winning trophies. It must be the biggest reward as a player. Oscar | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
has gone to China. They are being picked by Brazil. For them, the | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
foreign players, maybe it isn't such a big deal to go to China. I do not | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
look at Oscar being the main man at Chelsea. Diego Costa is one of the | :06:37. | :06:45. | |
main men. Maybe they have got their eyes on other strikers. Tottenham, | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
we talk about the old Spurs having gone, but some might say they | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
fluffed the Premier League last season and this was a chance of a | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
trophy and they might not win the Premier League this season. They did | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
not play that badly yesterday, they were a bit unlucky at times. I do | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
think confidence wise they will be wondering, have they got it? Big | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
test this summer, will they invest? They seem reluctant because of the | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
way they did it a few years ago, spent money, did not work. You have | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
the building of the stadium. We do not see Tottenham associated with | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
the big names around Europe. Whenever we say, Man United, going | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
for a certain player, Chelsea, Arsenal. You do not hear Spurs being | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
mentioned as a club who will battle for the big names. The point you | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
make with the stadium is valid because any club that has such a | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
huge project happening as Spurs have with the stadium, they will have a | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
season of just consolidating and keeping together. Arsenal were very | :07:47. | :07:49. | |
similar when they moved out of Highbury to the Emirates. They had a | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
season or two when the team consolidates and stays as it is. | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
Mauricio Pochettino will be very disappointed with yesterday because | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
they dominated huge periods of the game especially before the penalty | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
that was given away, I do not think Chelsea were barely in the final | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
third for 20 minutes. They were controlling the midfield. It was | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
just mistakes for Tottenham. Hugo Lloris on the free kick will be | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
disappointed with his position. He had a slight shift to the right. He | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
would have expected to save that. The penalty was a striker playing at | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
wingback, really. The new stadium, what about the one in between? They | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
potentially have to play next season at Wembley. They have to decide | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
soon. They have lost seven FA Cup semifinals there. It is tough, | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
especially leaving your ground for a season. Do you have that in certain | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
grounds, you cannot explain it, something does not click? Yeah, but | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
you have to buy into it and the biggest problem Mauricio Pochettino | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
has is keeping the top players. Some of the big boys come calling in the | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
summer, I think he will possibly lose a couple. You have got to start | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
to look at Tottenham as a big boy. The last two leagues, pushing to win | :09:11. | :09:19. | |
the title. Total respect but I think Dele Alli and speculation about Kyle | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
Walker being unhappy. It comes back to money. If they will not paid the | :09:26. | :09:34. | |
money other clubs will be prepared to pay. If the finances work | :09:35. | :09:42. | |
themselves out, they will be in a position to buy new players. If you | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
were Dele Alli, you might make the right noises, but if Barcelona or | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
Real Madrid comes knocking, it is difficult to turn down, even though | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
he is young. The supporters are really pleased with the club. If you | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
were a Tottenham fan, you would be really impressed with what direction | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
the club is going in. A lot of young English talent. I think as a | :10:04. | :10:12. | |
supporter, it is a great club. For me, watching, they are the best to | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
watch on the eye and playing against them, we have had four stuck past | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
us. They have obviously got terrific English talent and that is what is | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
catching the eye of a lot of people. Dele Alli, you have played against | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
him this season, what is so impressive? He takes you into areas | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
that as a defender you do not want to go into. He sucks you in deep. He | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
does not want you around him tackling him. He will take you | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
places where he can get freedom and turn. I really like the runs he | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
makes into the box, late runs, not marked. He creates space as top | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
players do. He just keeps doing that. It was highlighted yesterday, | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
his goal, it is just... He reminds me of Paul Scholes. His desire to | :11:03. | :11:09. | |
get there. He is level between two defenders. He makes it into the box | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
and puts the finish in. The intelligence and he plays with | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
freedom and desire of a young player that has nothing to fear. They are a | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
very close-knit group. I do not want to bang on about it, but if they | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
lose one, it upsets it. Christian Eriksen, an integral part of the | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
team. They are coming together as a unit. You lose one vital cog and it | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
makes them vulnerable. Dele Alli absolutely key to the project, the | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
manager, risking Ericsson, there are a few parts, if one were to fall | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
away, who knows what the future would be -- Christian Eriksen. I am | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
sure the manage and club are where. We talk about Tottenham being big | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
maybe the only thing they are short of is the wage structure compared to | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
Man City, united, Chelsea. It is on a different level. That is the only | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
reason possibly why players would not want to stay. That is possibly | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
why they are going to a new stadium to try to generate that. Wait and | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
see. Arsenal against Manchester City shortly. A couple of big derbies are | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
ready. Celtic against Rangers in the semifinal of the Scottish Cup. The | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
latest from Andy Gillies. It is Celtic 1-0 Rangers. Fantastic goals | :12:34. | :12:36. | |
in the semifinals this weekend already and we have seen a really | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
good one here as well. Long ball forward from Celtic that found | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
Moussa Dembele with terrific control initially and the vision to lay it | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
back to Callum McGregor who passed the ball into the back of the net | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
from 25 yards. Terrific goal. Celtic absolutely dominant. Rangers | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
struggling to lay a glove on them. They have not created and a pigeon | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
idiot. At the moment Celtic heading for the final with Aberdeen. -- they | :13:04. | :13:11. | |
have not created an opportunity. Harry Redknapp, first game in charge | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
against Aston Villa. In Birmingham. Ian Stringer? 27 minutes gone, | :13:17. | :13:23. | |
taking it in his stride. The visitors deserve a lot of credit. He | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
has played three at the back. Aston Villa trying to exploit the hole | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
with Jack Grealish. Birmingham holding their own. You would not be | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
able... Chance in the tent minute, pantomime villain, could not get the | :13:40. | :13:49. | |
cross in. 27 minutes gone, 0-0. Former Birmingham player. How | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
shocked are you to see them struggling to stay in the | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
Championship? It has been a real surprise. They were stable under | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
Gary Rowlett who did a good job. Seventh when they sacked him. Great | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
position for them. Having worked with Gianfranco Zola. I can imagine | :14:06. | :14:13. | |
why you would employ him, I enjoyed working with him as a player, but it | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
went wrong. They are scrapping for survival in the Championship. It is | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
a huge turnaround. This fixture might be great for them, difficult, | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
but I have played in this fixture and it is a feisty occasion. | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
Sometimes that can bring the team together. Harry Redknapp, he will | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
not get bored at this! 70. He loves it. He has been itching to get back. | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
You hear him on TV and you read his columns in the Standard, you know | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
that if he had a sniff of a chance to come back, he wants to keep | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
managing forever. Turning our attentions to the bottom of the | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
Premier League, Swansea's win over Stoke. Sorry, Phil. Do you see in | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
the Swansea side enough that they think they can stay in the Premier | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
League? Disappointing day for us yesterday off the back of a good | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
result against Hall at home, to go into the game, confident, playing | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
decent stuff, just didn't turn up on the day. Credit to Swansea, they | :15:15. | :15:23. | |
laid down the marker early doors, got some good tackles in, and | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
unfortunately we couldn't get into the game. Leon Britton, the return | :15:30. | :15:36. | |
of him, he is everything involving Swansea. To come back at this stage | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
of the season for them. He played terrific yesterday, sat in the | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
middle of midfield, he makes them tick. I'm surprised he hasn't played | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
more this year, I'm sure he will be disappointed. On the back of a | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
performance yesterday I'm sure he will be in the team. First | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
appearance for Leon Britton since New Year's Eve. In these relegation | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
battle is how crucial is it to have experience like that at the crucial | :16:05. | :16:10. | |
time? It is huge, and he is passionate about the football club, | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
Leon Britton. Whenever I see him talk about Swansea he loves the | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
club, and that goes a long way in this position because you can | :16:19. | :16:21. | |
technically get it right, you can tactically get it right but | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
ultimately what keeps you in the Premier League at this stage are | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
players like that who are willing to go the extra yard, the extra mile | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
for the club and the more of those you your team it gives you a huge | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
chance to survive. I'm sure he would never admit this but the motivation | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
for Swansea must have been bigger, they knew it was a must win game for | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
them, they had to do it. However you argue it, Stoke are in comfortable | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
mid-table. And for Swansea it was a must, it had to happen, everybody | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
had to be on their game and it looked like they were yesterday and | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
they live to fight another day. It was a bold approach from Paul | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
Clement, playing with Llorente and Ayew upfront. Yes, we knew it would | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
be tough, Llorente is a big strong boy and Ayew has a point to prove | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
coming in in January. They played well together to be perfectly | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
honest. They caused us problems all day. A lot of focus on Llorente. | :17:15. | :17:21. | |
Yes, as I say, he is a big strong boy, they can mix up their play, | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
they can go direct into him, or they can play through Leon Britton and | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
Sigurdsson who was very good yesterday as well. On the whole for | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
us it was a disappointing result, as we thought it was a great chance for | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
us to get back in the top ten and push on. But it wasn't to be and | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
hopefully we can dust ourselves off and go again next week. Paul Clement | :17:44. | :17:45. | |
really wants to prove himself as a manager in the Premier League. He's | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
done very well as a coach, Derby, not sure why he had to leave Derby, | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
but he did and this is his big test and you could tell by the way he was | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
talking this week that he was desperate to get them back on track, | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
desperate to show he can match any of the other Premier League | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
managers. He's a proud man. That will be as big a win for him as it | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
is for the players. And for as we knew going to Swansea they were | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
fighting for their lives so you have two come out fighting straightaway | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
and we didn't do that yesterday. That was disappointing. Swansea go | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
to Manchester United next, Everton at home, Sunderland away, West Brom | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
at home, in that battle with Hull, I was at the KCOM yesterday, 2-0 | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
winners over Watford. They went down to ten men, Hull, after 25 minutes, | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
Oumar Niasse it sent off. Let's chat to Michael Dawson, the Hull Captain. | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
Good afternoon, guys. The significance of winning the game | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
when you are down to ten men, what will that do for your confidence and | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
togetherness in this battle? I think we have shown an awful lot of that | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
since Christmas, since the manager came in. That is credit to him. We | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
have a squad together that we believe capable of staying in the | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
Premier League and our home form is vital. The record that we have had | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
since Christmas has been second to none, it's been incredible. It was | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
about winning our home games fourth of yesterday was a game that we | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
looked at having to win. Going down to ten men after 25 minutes, that | :19:20. | :19:26. | |
shows the character and togetherness. I don't believe it was | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
a red card and Oumar was gutted when he got a red, when we started the | :19:30. | :19:38. | |
game we were on top. To go down to ten men, we were under a lot of | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
pressure but we stood strong and the two goals in the second half, it was | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
thoroughly deserved and credit to the lads because they worked their | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
socks off. We talked about Marco Silva, we have picked him up on 5 | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
live Xtra all season. How quickly has he moulded you together and how | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
impressed have you been? Incredibly well. He is a guy who is thorough, | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
everything he does, there is nothing uncovered on the training ground | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
going into the games. You are prepared. He sets you up and if you | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
are not doing your job you certainly know about it. He has set the | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
standards, as players we know on the training pitch Monday to Friday he | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
expects a performance because if you don't you will be out of the team. | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
He makes big decisions. He is a ruthless guy and to be a top manager | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
that is what you have to be, and to be successful. So credit to him and | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
hopefully we can keep doing what we are doing and stay out of the bottom | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
three come the end of the day. In those situations, I spoke to Marco | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
Silva after the game and he said he would appeal it because it was never | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
a red card from Bobby Madley on the Oumar Niasse. On those situations do | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
you either double your workrate or lose the game? That is what showed, | :20:53. | :20:58. | |
and a half-time, I knew at that time, thinking he hasn't left the | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
ground, all right, he has caught him. You look at it and I know | :21:02. | :21:11. | |
tackles happen and people take off, this isn't being biased because I am | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
a Hull player, that is not a red card. We don't want to take tackling | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
out and it was such a big decision with things riding on the game that | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
it riled us up and got the fans going and thankfully it didn't | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
affect the result. I understand how hard it is for referees but they are | :21:30. | :21:32. | |
big decisions and when you are down there, we didn't get it yesterday, | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
we got the three points which was the most important thing. Finally, | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
Michael, maybe still perhaps a bit of ill feeling from the fans towards | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
the owner etc, etc. But the atmosphere unquestionable. Yes, we | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
need that, we need the place to be rocking. Not just at Hull, but what | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
he did at his previous clubs, his home records have been amazing and | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
we need to state in the Premier League. After the first 15 minutes | :22:07. | :22:13. | |
we were disappointed not to get something out of the game and 15 | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
minutes into the second half we took the game to them. Maybe it was a | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
little bit of naivete to be away at Stoke and going for the win, maybe | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
we should have sat back, they Mitu changes, Crouch and Jon Walters, who | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
gave us a handful when they came on. Our home form is important, we go to | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
Southampton next week and hopefully we can pick something up with the | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
confidence and form we are in, we have put ourselves in this position | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
and it is still in our hands and hopefully come the end of May we are | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
still a Premier League to because that is what you want as a player, | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
to play in the best league in the world in my opinion, and as a | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
football club it's just massive. Michael, we appreciate you coming on | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
today. Cheers, guys. The whole City captain Michael Dawson after their | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
win over Watford, incredible for Marco Silva, unbeaten in 41 games at | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
home acted 2014 when it was the Estoril manager, he has since | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
managed Olympiakos and Sporting Lisbon. On the flip side, the | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
Watford captain, not happy about their performance. | :23:18. | :23:19. | |
We have a moral responsibility to play a lot better than that because | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
we have at Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton and Man City in the run in. | :23:23. | :23:30. | |
If we think we can turn up and play like that we will definitely be on | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
the end of some big scores. The clearest thing I can say, not in the | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
business of apologising to fans, but that wasn't fair on our fans because | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
it is a long deep to get up here. It will be a long hard week, there will | :23:44. | :23:51. | |
be some words said and some things thrown and we will get people into | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
gear. It's not just about now, it's about next season. Everyone is | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
fighting for their position and we are all fighting for jobs because if | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
we play like that and lose the next five games, I think, I am pretty | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
sure the owner won't be happy in the manager will not be happy and they | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
will be more players going than coming. Matt Upson, is that the | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
right thing for the captain to say and do after the game? I think so, | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
it is good of him to come out and speak. From gauging the reaction of | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
what I've heard yesterday, the supporters really were not happy. I | :24:23. | :24:29. | |
think what magnifies the supporters' angle, and we talked about this | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
before the show, is the fact that they find it difficult to identify | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
with the group and the team at Watford because it is such a high | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
turnover of players over the last three or four seasons, they had a | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
huge amount of loanees, and I don't think they can quite identify in | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
what direction the club is going, even though they are in a great | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
position for where they are, I think fans and supporters identifying with | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
the players and the team is a huge part of enjoying a football club. If | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
you contrast it with Brighton who are coming up this season, the | :25:05. | :25:06. | |
community feel you have around Brighton where everybody is a | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
Brighton supporter, they are not interested in Arsenal and Man City | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
and Man United and all that, they want their hometown team. There is | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
an incredible community feel about that place and that Watford used to | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
have and you feel like it's gone now. Although they are safe and they | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
have done well, Matt is right, the turnover they have, you can't hope | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
to identify with anybody there, the manager, the owner and players, it's | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
impossible. Something is going right, they are tenth in the Premier | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
League and people watching will be wondering what you're talking about. | :25:39. | :25:40. | |
Quique Sanchez Flores lost his job when they were 13th, what will be | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
enough for Walter Mazzarri? Tenth? Where do they to be? You can see | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
Matt's point, it's easier for supporters to identify with local | :25:50. | :25:54. | |
players, rather than a new player coming in one season and often his | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
next club, whichever club the family on, you cannot hope to develop a | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
club long-term going forward. Eventually it is going to go wrong | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
and you presume they will be relegated and then that's the key | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
because then the fans really won't care because they don't identify. Do | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
the players understand that, Phil? That importance of the connection? | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
As you saw with Deeney, shaking their hands, is it something that | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
spreads across? Or is it only a few of you it resonates with? | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
Absolutely. A few of the clubs I've been lucky enough to play for have | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
always had a strong bond with the fans and the players. I think it is | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
a big factor in a football club. If the fans are onside and they are | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
with you then it makes it easier for a player. You have to give them | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
something to cheer about and obviously make them want to come and | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
follow you around the country week in and week out. Deeney is that | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
player, that's why he's the one talking to the fans, that's the one | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
that fans hone in on to get him to put it right. He has a huge | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
responsibility at the moment at Watford, and maybe unfairly on one | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
player. But because he is who they identify with, is he there longest | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
serving player? The fans can look at him and ask what is going on. They | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
are not asking the other players that. Two games in the Premier | :27:13. | :27:14. | |
League this afternoon. Liverpool v Crystal | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
Palace at 4:30pm; and Burnley | :27:19. | :27:20. | |
against Manchester United at 2:15pm. Steve Bower's at Turf Moor | :27:21. | :27:21. | |
for Match of The Day 2. Good afternoon. The win over | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
Anderlecht came at a real cost for Jose Mourinho's side on Thursday. | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
Absolutely, it is all hands to the deck for Manchester United with | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
those serious knee injuries for Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Marcos Rojo, | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
both expected to be out for a long period of time in terms of this | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
season, there will have to wrap Marcus Rashford up in cotton wool | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
who is trying to score for the third Premier League running today. Wayne | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
Rooney comes back into the thinking today, he hasn't a period in any of | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
the last five Manchester United games. They still have an | :27:57. | :27:58. | |
opportunity through the Premier League to get in the Champions | :27:59. | :28:02. | |
League spaces. The margin for error is very little, if they can win at | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
Burnley today which we will come to in it is easier said than done. It | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
will put them on a point of Manchester City before the | :28:11. | :28:12. | |
Manchester derby on Thursday, adding even more spice to that fixture. | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
They have got the hardest run in and they are down to knock the bare | :28:17. | :28:18. | |
bones but missing influential figures at the top and bottom of the | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
pitch. It is a chance for Michael Keane to impress against his old | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
club. In the Sunday Times he said he left United on loan but wanted to go | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
Barack Dummett back to prove himself. Lots of speculation about | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
his future and where he will be next season -- wanted to go back to prove | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
himself. Lots of clubs are interested. Whistle at the beginning | :28:39. | :28:43. | |
of this season, Leicester, when they were chances, bidding ?10 million | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
and ?12 million for him. He is a Man United fan, I watched him watching | :28:49. | :28:51. | |
the game against Chelsea at Old Trafford last Sunday. There is a 25% | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
sell on fee Manchester United have in that deal when he came to Burnley | :28:58. | :29:00. | |
so they might be able to use that to do what they did with Paul Pogba and | :29:01. | :29:03. | |
bring him back to the club, and you would think given the injury to | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
Marcos Rojo anyway that would be an area they would look to strengthen. | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
Is part of the Burnley team for Manchester United, bringing back a | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
painful memory of simile draws the season, 0-0 at Old Trafford. | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
Burnley, black and white, four points away from home, 32 here at | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
Turf Moor. The sixth best home record and Manchester United with | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
Michael Keane facing in the back four today, will have to be on their | :29:28. | :29:30. | |
mettle to get a result today. We have already seen Liverpool beaten | :29:31. | :29:33. | |
and Chelsea drop points and if Manchester United want to finish in | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
the top four in terms of their league position to get in the | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
Champions League they have to win this game. Burnley against | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
Manchester United kicks off at 2:15pm at Turf Moor. Matt Upson, | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
Michael Keane, parallels to you, leaving a big club and having to | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
rebuild, is that the right phrase, having to prove people wrong? | :29:51. | :29:57. | |
Definitely. I've been on the journey he is on now, the comparison to | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
where I was at 2040 Michael Keane is amazing in terms of the timings and | :30:02. | :30:10. | |
where he is in his career. It is another example of a talented in | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
this player that needs to play. When you are at a big club as a young | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
player you can be protected by the environment and the domination of | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
the team in matches and you don't really get the confidence to be | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
relied upon, or play every week. It has taken for him to leave a club | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
like Manchester United to go to Burnley with a manager that likes | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
resilience and likes players to defend with grit and determination | :30:35. | :30:37. | |
and learn his trade as a centre-back. He's had to go and | :30:38. | :30:42. | |
defend the box, he's had to deal with pressure, playing away, and all | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
those things that develop you as a young player, especially as a | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
defender and a centre-back, he has the experience now and he has | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
thrived on it and now looks the player he probably always was going | :30:54. | :30:55. | |
to be at Manchester United. You've done it as well. | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
Absolutely. I lot of us have gone away from Manchester United and made | :31:00. | :31:08. | |
a career. He is a shining example of what can be done. He has been linked | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
to a lot of top clubs. At the minute, he is at the right club, | :31:14. | :31:19. | |
Burnley, under Sean Dyche. It is difficult to leave a club like that. | :31:20. | :31:24. | |
In my experience, I had to really push that through. It is very easy | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
to stay in the security of such an amazing club. Sometimes for your own | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
personal development, the best thing is to branch out and do it. Fair | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
play to him, he has had the desire to do that to better himself. You | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
both knew you had to do it. You do not have any regrets, do you? No, | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
you get a taste of football as an 18-year-old and you play against men | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
and you want to do it every week and all of a sudden you are going back | :31:54. | :31:58. | |
to reserve team football and you are like, I want to play. That is | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
exactly what he has done. He was always in the background. Will was | :32:03. | :32:12. | |
the next big thing. He has gone off the radar. Lovely lad, fair play to | :32:13. | :32:18. | |
him. The next move is crucial for him because there is talk of him | :32:19. | :32:22. | |
potentially going to Liverpool, Everton, replacing Phil Jagielka, | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
Manchester City might be an option, huge decision process, all the top | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
clubs looking for defenders. Definitely. He is striking at a good | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
time. Outside of Chelsea and Spurs, every team is looking for a | :32:40. | :32:43. | |
centre-back. I do not think the level in that position is very high | :32:44. | :32:47. | |
at the moment. What a great problem to have for him. Anywhere as good. | :32:48. | :32:54. | |
With the right mentality, coming from Burnley where he has been | :32:55. | :32:56. | |
playing and enjoying his football, he has a good schooling there to go | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
and hold his own and progress. We mentioned about the costly night at | :33:02. | :33:08. | |
Old Trafford on Thursday, your paper saying Zlatan Ibrahimovic is off to | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
the US for an operation. What do we know? This is where he believes is | :33:13. | :33:19. | |
the right place to go to get it sorted. Some people suggesting his | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
career could be over. We always thought he was indestructible. He | :33:25. | :33:28. | |
has not suffered from injury greatly in his career. He has come here and | :33:29. | :33:32. | |
he is the main man and held off signing the contract. It shows even | :33:33. | :33:38. | |
people like him can be vulnerable to something like this happening. Such | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
a shame. We have loved watching him this season. We love his character, | :33:43. | :33:49. | |
you wanted him to stay in the Premier League because he is such a | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
great entertainer. Really hope he gets it sorted out. Definitely. To | :33:54. | :33:58. | |
go from... An example of how quickly football can change. To be at the | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
top of your game at that level at one minute and then have an incident | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
happened that could really flip it on its head. It would be huge | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
challenge for him to come back from this and I am sure he looks like the | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
type of person who is capable of it. Who would you rather play against, | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
Marcus Rashford or 's Latin Abramowitz? I came off the bench | :34:20. | :34:26. | |
early in the season and I marked him from a corner and I stood next to | :34:27. | :34:29. | |
him and gave him a nudge and he looked at me as if to say, you do | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
that again... I did not go near him after that! For me, top player. On | :34:34. | :34:40. | |
the other hand, what a breath of fresh air Marcus Rashford is going | :34:41. | :34:47. | |
to be. I think he will get his run till the end of the season in the | :34:48. | :34:52. | |
team and United fans are excited. There is a feeling they are | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
anaemic... There is a feeling they are | :34:59. | :35:07. | |
Why is it? Because he offers more channels? They both offer different | :35:08. | :35:18. | |
things but if you ask the one, defender's worst nightmare is a | :35:19. | :35:20. | |
striker running in from behind. Marcus Rashford's blistering pace. | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
It is difficult when you get two together, finding a place to | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
incorporate and engage. You have both of them in the team and one | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
pulling you here and another running you in the opposite direction. That | :35:36. | :35:40. | |
for me is the perfect balance. You can use lots of different players if | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
you are in the team and Zlatan Ibrahimovic is not there. If he is | :35:45. | :35:52. | |
there, you have to give it to him because he will go nuts. It will be | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
a big mess. Celtic leading Rangers by 1-0. Scottish Cup semifinal. | :35:58. | :36:04. | |
Harry Redknapp's first game in charge of Birmingham. You were at | :36:05. | :36:13. | |
the Hawthorns last Sunday. Is there the feeling now Liverpool who were | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
struggling against the lesser teams in the Premier League are starting | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
to get it right? I think so. Given some key players are missing, there | :36:22. | :36:23. | |
was no Henderson, Marne has been | :36:24. | :36:37. | |
outstanding. They are getting more resilient. They defended well | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
against West Brom even though they did not throw too much at them. They | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
coped. I thought it could be a challenge. They are sitting in a | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
great position having had an awful January I think. If you take that | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
month out of the equation, they would be around the title challenge. | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
You still play Liverpool before the end of the season. No, we played | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
them. I do not believe you that you have let it lie with Latin | :37:02. | :37:10. | |
Abramowitz! What about with someone like Firmino? We played a couple of | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
weeks back. The Liverpool team in the first half was the worst I have | :37:17. | :37:19. | |
seen in a long time. You were 1-0 up. Yes, we were doing really well. | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
They made a couple of changes that half-time. The whole team lifted. | :37:26. | :37:33. | |
Two players coming on. They took the game from us. The performances from | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
the two boys coming on, it gave the whole team and the fans a lift. It | :37:39. | :37:46. | |
just goes to show. Big test for them against Crystal Palace today. It was | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
well documented what Crystal Palace's run-in was like, the | :37:51. | :37:54. | |
hardest probably. Chelsea, Arsenal. They must be feeling really good | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
about themselves and probably preferring to play the bigger fish | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
than the smaller ones. They have really come on over the last few | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
weeks and pretty impressive stuff. Who will face Chelsea in the FA Cup | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
final at Wembley? Manchester City take on Arsenal in the other | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
semifinal and from both sides a final opportunity to win a trophy | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
this season. The FA Cup is very important game for me. It is the | :38:20. | :38:25. | |
next game and it is an opportunity to win a trophy this season. So of | :38:26. | :38:32. | |
course we are hopefully focused on that. My future is Sunday. The FA | :38:33. | :38:42. | |
Cup, how good the players are. I have said many times to them, they | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
still don't believe how good they are. They are fantastic players. | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
Winning titles helps you a lot. Winning helps you win more. I think | :38:54. | :39:00. | |
it could be a very intense game with two teams trying to move forward. A | :39:01. | :39:05. | |
very spectacular game. Once the first goal is scored. Let us hope we | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
score the first. Your thoughts on your old boss Matt Upson. He says, | :39:10. | :39:19. | |
it is more natural for local boys, they have been educated, players | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
like Aaron Ramsey, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they should take | :39:26. | :39:28. | |
responsibility, that is how we want to play, go together. Spot on for | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
you? The future of Arsenal even without Arsene Wenger? That is | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
Arsene Wenger's comments, that is as close as what he comes to maybe | :39:40. | :39:44. | |
publicly saying something about his players. He is not the type of | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
manager... Calling them out? He is not the type to do something like | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
that. Is that what he is trying to do? Maybe. Looking at that, he is | :39:56. | :40:02. | |
demanding something from them. If I compare them, looking at Spurs and | :40:03. | :40:05. | |
compare the group of English players to Tottenham? There is a huge | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
difference to what they are contributing, the Spurs players. | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
That is something for me in those comments he is highlighting. They | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
have quite a large group of young English players, some of them are | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
now in the middle of their careers or pushing on mid-20s, they are not | :40:23. | :40:29. | |
contributing and leading Arsenal as a football club enough compared to | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
the Tottenham players. That is a huge issue for Arsene Wenger and I | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
think the key to him getting the dressing room and the team back on | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
track possibly lies within that group. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, very | :40:40. | :40:46. | |
talented, where does he play question my very good at wingback | :40:47. | :40:50. | |
last week but he wants to play central. His issue is he wants to | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
play in that team and if you can be a starter at Arsenal, he will stay. | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
If he will not start, when he hits the crossroads, he will want to | :41:00. | :41:05. | |
leave. Interesting column in the Sun from Thierry Henry saying that the | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
FA Cup cannot make up for failure in the Premier League. I do not think | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
the Arsenal fans feel they will make up for it. They have been here | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
before. They do not feel it is enough. They want to see real | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
progress in the Premier League and they are not getting it. I do not | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
think he can hide anything. Two or three years ago, we thought it was | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
enough. It is not this time. This group of players, they have not made | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
any sustained contribution to that team. They have patches which make | :41:37. | :41:43. | |
you stand up and go, Alex Ross Mitch Inman had a good game. I see | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
Tottenham the English players, you know what you are getting from them | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
every week. They are on the pitch to start and they perform at a high | :41:53. | :41:57. | |
level consistently. For Arsenal, to move forward, that group of players | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
can lift that team. Having faced Manchester City this season, the | :42:02. | :42:09. | |
form of you were saying, Jesus could be back today, quite a proposition | :42:10. | :42:23. | |
-- the form of Sane. I faced him a couple of weeks back, exceptional | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
talent. Jesus, I played against him -- I have not played against him | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
yet, but watching him, exceptionally gifted player. Open expansive game | :42:33. | :42:39. | |
today. One I am looking forward to. Do you think Arsenal will play three | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
at the back again? Possibly. It might have been part of the reason | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
why they played three at the back against Middlesbrough, thinking of | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
this game moving forwards. Whatever formation, they will have to look at | :42:54. | :43:02. | |
Sane. Really interesting encounter. Phil, the importance for Pep | :43:03. | :43:08. | |
Guardiola winning a trophy? He is under as much pressure as Arsene | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
Wenger. People say, it is his first season, but it is Antonio Conte's | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
first season as well and he is proving it is not too difficult. | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
Thank you very much for your company. Mark is not here today. | :43:22. | :43:30. | |
There he is, back tonight. Albert is slightly high! He is in there! -- | :43:31. | :43:39. | |
elbows slightly high. Arsenal against Manchester City is on Radio | :43:40. | :43:49. | |
5 Live. Quickly, Mark? Any advice? He looks like he is towing a | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
caravan! He will get round, probably another few hours! Good luck! | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
Whatever you are doing this Sunday, have a good one. | :44:00. | :44:03. |