19/01/2014 MOTD2 Extra

Hello and welcome to Match Of The Day to extra, we are on BBC One, BBC

Radio 5 live and on the sport websites to analyse the football

this weekend, and we will be looking at the big game between Chelsea and

Manchester United, will it be a classic or another tactical

stalemate? Swansea versus Spurs is the early kick-off with the home

team in increasing need of a win. And we will look back at yesterday

is action, including another controversial moment involving Luis

Suarez. With me is Pat Nevin, Match Of The Day, data Steve Bould, and

Jason Burt. -- commentator. We want your thoughts, get in touch via the

BBC Sport website, and we will crack straight on with Chelsea against

Manchester United, the back page of the son, lose today and it is all

over for United, and if you Delph into the article, he is talking

about the season, if they do not win. We are still the biggest club

in the world, that is the back of the Express. They could obviously

not fit the words on to make that work! Ian Poulter says, I cannot see

past United getting an absolute drubbing, Chelsea to score four or

five. That is pushing it a little bit, but no argument, Chelsea are

the big favourites. For no more reason than the fact that they have

not got Rooney, Robin van Persie starting, so they are already at a

disadvantage. Chelsea are in good form, not losing many games at the

moment, and the team seems to be working in the Mourinho style, they

seem to understand what he wants. Big outsiders, but the biggest

problem for Manchester United is they need to some extent attack

Chelsea, and that is the last thing they want to be doing against this

Chelsea team at the moment. Do you see it being as... I was going to

say Del! Do you see it being a similar tactical battle to the first

game? Yeah, but we are at a different stage of the season, David

Moyes knows more about the deficiencies of his squad now. I

would love to see Man United go head-to-head with Chelsea, with

Rooney and Van Persie firing, that would make it a different game,

because when you speak to people within the game, when they are

firing, I heard Asmir Begovic saying, never mind Sturridge and

Suarez, Rooney and Van Persie cause the most problems for any defence of

goalkeeper. Manchester United are weakened because of that, but David

Moyes knows a bit more about his players. He went into that Chelsea

game a little bit in the dark, still finding out quite early in the

season. We are at a different stage, Chelsea have tightened up at the

back, Jose Mourinho have realised where their strengths are, and it is

a fascinating tactical battle. When we talk tactical battles, Jason

Burt, Mourinho is seen as the master, and David Moyes is sometimes

criticised over his tactics. Yes, it is interesting, talking to Carlo

Ancelotti when he was Chelsea manager, he was very praiseworthy of

David Moyes and is tactical acumen, and he talks about him being the

Premier League manager who caused in the most problems. But the problem

with his tactics is that he's good at stopping other managers doing

things, he is good at reacting and blocking other teams and then trying

to get a result out of that. The problem Manchester United need to

play on the front foot, and that is where he is struggling. He is

lacking big weapons. Twice Mourinho was asking us, is Rooney fit, is Van

Persie fit? Are you sure?! So there is a worry there for him that one of

them might turn up on the pitch today. I don't think they will, but

that would make a big difference. As Moyes got the weapons to win this?

He has got pace in Welbeck and Januzaj, that is the best chance he

has got to draw Chelsea in and try to hit them. That is maybe the

biggest chance for me. One of the questions I asked, is Ashley Young

available, and your eyes rise dubbed as if, why?! I did find it a

slightly odd question! The reason is, for me, he is the most direct,

pace player that they have got, and if there is a weakness, it is with

pace in certain areas. Everyone knows John Terry is not the

quickest, but his match intelligence get him out of its time and again.

Ashley Cole has been pushed a bit in the last few weeks, I watched him

against Hull, they were trying to go over the top of him, are you as

quick as you used to be? He has just come back from injury, and the

sharpness may not be back, but people are beginning to think about

that a wee bit, and that would be a big difference for United. There is

a temptation to put Welbeck there, the right-hand side, and then put

him in and say, go on, one of that line and find out. But I will tell

you what, that is a brave decision, to take him out of the front line

when he is your top goal-scorer. Are we saying with Welbeck and Hernandez

and Januzaj, that displays that David Moyes is being slightly more

proactive? I think Januzaj is that special.

When you see him live, his movement, going back to Jose Mourinho on

Friday, he was very clever, he is the Special One, he will have a

great career, so he is already building him up today, and that

shows he feels... He was pushed on that quite a lot! Even without Van

Persie and Rooney... The other question was, how would you compare

him to Cristiano Ronaldo at the same age? He said, I cannot remember ten

years ago! Clearly he is a special talent. The problem is, Manchester

United are overreliant on him. They are giving him the ball all the

time. If you stop him, you stop Manchester United with the setup at

the moment. Harry Redknapp has compared him and Eden Hazard, and he

begins is column with this paragraph, Eden Hazard and I once

spent half a day in a Paris hotel room with my wife's Sandra's full

blessing! It makes the eyebrows raise. He says he would go for

Januzaj over Eden Hazard, but if we move it on to Chelsea, he has been

their best performer over the last two or three months. At the start of

the season, he had a technical problem, he was going by the first

player and stopping and taking a hit. Everyone was saying, he is the

most fouled player in the league, forget about that, get away from the

player, drive forward. Well, he is doing that now, and he's just about

unstoppable. From the left-hand side, you know what he's going to

do, but you cannot stop it. He is the one player, I am looking at my

Oscars, he is the player that can get to that level where Franck

Ribery is just now, that is high praise. There is always one player

that Mourinho get into and develops and creates into a superstar, Eden

Hazard has got that, and the problem with them at the start of his career

was he did not train particularly well, he was not disciplined, he was

a bit scatty at times. All those things have been addressed by

Mourinho, and you see a much tougher player as well, he has that

burnished Mourinho approach now, tougher physically, tougher

mentally, and he is benefiting from that. I did an interview with them

earlier in the season and is scared, I am scared of Mourinho, no bad

thing for a world superstar to be scared of the manager. Ferguson had

that at Manchester United. I think Mourinho has brought that back to

Chelsea. Speaking of discipline and tough players, we can hear from Jose

Mourinho, who gave an insight into a tactical approach when he spoke

about Juan Mata to Football Focus. Juan was playing at Chelsea in a

model completely adapted to his qualities. Chelsea was playing with

two lots of four, two lines of four, very compact. We could say very

defensive. We'd one Number Ten specific role to make the team play

from that position. He needs a little bit more to go in the

direction that this team wants to go, and this team presses high, the

wingers, they do not defend in a block, they attack the opposite team

immediately in the first phase of their building up. Our number 10 is

the number 10 that needs to come back much more with the two midfield

players, because our two wingers are not defensive players. They are

playing Hazard and Will.i.am, they are attacking players. So this is a

puzzle, I have to try to provide the best conditions for him to succeed

and he is trying to do the best he can. He also obviously used that

insight into his tactical approach to have a dig at Rafael Benitez and

how Chelsea played under him. The point being, I don't want to do well

over the old Juan Mata, but he needs the number 10 to work because his

wingers will not. He is honest about that, I was at Stamford Bridge when

they played for them, and the team was very fresh in Mourinho's second

spell, and the big headline news was Juan Mata on the bench, and all the

shots in the game were of him on the bench, and the Chelsea fans will not

happy and all the rest of it, the big news. Before that game, when

they played Fulham, the headlines were that Oscar was his chosen one.

Now, four or five months on, hardly anyone is mentioning it, are they?

He is honest about Mata, but he has turned that situation around. I was

watching earlier in the season, really early in the season, that

style of Jose Mourinho's play was not going to suit Mata, because he

can play at 10, he can play wide but not world-class there. The big

mistake everyone made, Mata does not chase back. It has got nothing to do

with chasing back, it is chasing that way and closing down that way,

going forward. The best I have seen, the best tackler in the league

this season is Oscar, and that surprises quite a lot of people. Not

as a rising as the Ashley Young question! It is still quite

surprising! But why do you say Oscar is the best tackler in the Premier

League? Where he tackles is really high up the page, usually about 20

or 25 yards away from the opposition goal, and he gets a lot of

transition play. When you win the ball there, you create goals and

chances immediately. You do not win it back in your own half with a long

way to go. He is quick, like a cobbler, his reactions are

lightning. If anyone can remember the game against West Ham, it was

bordering on funny, how good his tackling was. And this is... Give it

to the players who can play, they will close them down. He is a slight

looking player, but a very aggressive football player, that is

ideal for Mourinho, and Mata is not particularly quick. The writing was

on the wall for Mata when they brought Willian in, you could see he

was always going to go for Willian, Hazard and Oscar as first choice.

You have to credit Mourinho for his willingness to explain this to us.

As a journalist, I find it very unusual, a manager who will actually

publicly explain it, not necessarily for the benefit of the player, but I

understand what the issue is. Totally a football issue. Is that

the media's Fault? Often the managers say, I am not going to

explain that. It could be a disciplinary issue. One thing that

is really... I am surprised that has to be explained, I thought it looked

quite obvious. Just because of the system he was playing. But the

supporters were in uproar, he has left the Player of the Year out, and

he has turned that completely around. Do not forget that Mata is a

fantastic player, and do you know what? Jose Mourinho will not ignore

that. If he is still here after the January transfer window, which he

probably will be, he will be used when he's useful, and he will be

well useful in some important games. But what about the player's state of

mind in that situation? Is attitude has been fantastic, really positive,

and he will be ready when he gets the opportunity. You have been

there. Twice in my career, when it does not matter how good you are

playing, your style does not suit the new manager. It is

heartbreaking. His biggest problem right now is not that he's not a

great player, he still is a great player, it is Brazil. He wants to be

in Brazil, and if he's not playing there, he will not get there. And

there is a lot of competition for him! A couple of anonymous texts, if

United do not win today, there is no coming back this season. Another

one, United and even the biggest team in Manchester, Chelsea to win

3-1. Ray says Terry is so slow, I expect United to play on the break.

Tim in Kingston, stop moaning about Van Persie not being fit, I think

you were just pointing it out! Arsene Wenger coped without him for

seasons, we always finished fourth, can David Moyes? Let's look back at

one of yesterday 's games at Anfield between Liverpool and Aston Villa.

Lewis Suarez 's penalty is all over the back pages. Here are the

thoughts of Paul Lambert. I thought Brad had pulled his arms away. If

you look at it, he pulled his arms away and I do not think it was a

penalty. Had it been the other way around, do you think it would have

been a penalty? The magnitude of the game, you have to be 100% sure that

was a penalty. We were just talking about managers not being honest.

There was a vote last night on much of the day and 69% of people said

that he dived. What do you think? I thought, Brad Guzan, when you go out

like that and put your arm out in that situation, there was contact.

Some people say there was no contact but there clearly was. Luis Suarez

went down and what do you expect him to do? We go back to the reputation

of Luis Suarez. The game against Manchester City, where Joleon

Lescott went right through him and nearly broke his back in half and he

did not get a free kick. There is the other side of the coin. Because

of his reputation, a lot of the time, he is not getting penalties

and he is not getting free kicks. Yesterday he was caught and it was a

penalty kick. Why was it an issue? Get off his back, he has done

nothing wrong. There are certain players who just make headlines.

That is just the case. Had it been another player, I am not sure it

would have been the front page of the Sunday Times. In the Sunday

Telegraph, we said, fall guy. Does he always gets the blame? I think

that is slightly sitting on the fence. We discussed it a lot last

night. It was definitely a penalty. I do not think it was a dive. There

was the area of confusion around it because it was Luis Suarez. I

thought the smile from Paul Lambert said it all. It was a penalty. This

is what I found fascinating. Andy in Stoke, press and TV pundits seem to

think that forwards have a right to go down if they are likely rush but

every fan hates it. I am 100% on his side. The phraseology is coming he

went down easily. He has gone past the keeper. There is contact. If he

were to stay up, he could stay up but there is no attempt to stay up.

That is exactly what the fan is saying. It is not the good thing, it

is not something I like. I spent my entire career trying to stay on my

feet. Nowadays you try to take a fall. It is not an issue with the

pace he is going at. If you get hit like that, do not just go down

anywhere? Did he try to stay up? No, he did not. Are you sure of that? He

was not actually going towards goal. I would have given a penalty. What

would you have done if you are Luis Suarez? If it was that night a

touch, I would have tried to stay up. Things have changed. If you do

not do it and you go down if you take a little bit of a hit, managers

were annoyed with me for not going down easily. I understand that but I

understand the point of view for the fans. There is nothing more

infuriating than when you get a whisper of a touch and you go down

and start rolling about. That is the big thing. We are talking from the

point of view of a forward. We also have to talk about the goalkeeper. A

modern-day goalkeeper has to be so careful. They know what is given and

what is not given. The goalkeeper comes up with an arm like that...

You have to be so careful. I think Michael Owen said, if you feel the

contacts, you have the right to go down. I think that is really good.

That, to me, is ultra-cynical. That is the modern way. That is what I do

not like. I would always give Luis Suarez the benefit of the doubt.

That incident was not a dive. In slow motion there is very clear

contact between Brad Guzan and Luis Suarez. Luis Suarez got to the ball

first and Brad Guzan make contact. A penalty every day of the week. Luis

Suarez did fall to the floor purposely said another but it was

still a penalty. John in Leeds, most ex-players are affected by the

sickness that says players are entitled to go down when there is

contact. Often this contact is engineered. Penalties for files are

not contact. You are in many ways the exception to the rule! Peter

Schmeichel is on Match Of The Day to tonight along with yourself. We will

put why Brad Guzan came out and we talked to him later on. All of this

debate has detracted from talking about Aston Villa and what was a

very good performance by then. They could have had more than two. They

are setup to play well against big teams away from home. They have a

lot of pace going forward. Finally, Kristin Benteke is finding some

form. Once they get three together, that masks a multitude of sins for

Aston Villa. Can they transfer that to their home form bastion Mark I am

not sure. They get 20%, 30% of the ball. -- to their home form? I'm not

sure they will get to the top half of the table consistently. We need

to stop blaming foreigners for diving, there are just as many Brits

that go down as easily. Sean in Canterbury says, I cannot

believe there are people who think that Luis Suarez did not die. Of

course he did. Opinion to the contrary can only be regarded as

moronic. At least he is open to debate. Let's move on to talk about

the game that Steve was at yesterday, Sunderland against

Southampton. It finished 2-2. Afterwards, Steve spoke to the

manager and his interpreter. It was a heavy blow to what happened this

week. A week of a lack of sleep. I was quite tired. I am still

suggesting it and oversee sad by what has happened at the club. Can

you assure us have come to an fancy will be here till the end of the

season? There are no guarantees in football. You depend on the results

that the team is getting. It depends on the performance of the team. At

the end of the day, the people in the board, or whoever is making the

decisions, they decide whether I am here. Are you planning any more

meetings with the owner? It is not me that needs to make the decision

to meet or make the appointment. It should be the chairwoman to decide.

I think we will leave it there. Thank you very much. He was very

happy at the end. That was a friendly handshake. That suggests a

little subplot to the situation. He was more than happy to be frank and

open. All the suggestion, leading up to the game, that it was going to

affect the players. The performance in the first half an hour,

Sunderland were absolutely awful. That was put to bed. Adam Lallana

said there was a concern on the day that there was an announcement that

players would be sold. He thanked the owner for coming out and putting

that to bed. You heard me there, I asked him if he could guarantee the

fans he would be there at the end of the season and he could not. There

is a not more to come on that. They put out a statement on Friday saying

that no players would be sold. She will appoint a chief executive. She

does not want to run the club. She has no experience at that. Why would

she want to do it? To be fair to her, some of the headlines were

victory late, as if she is a dream wrecker and ruining football. I

think they wanted more transparency and accountability. He has done an

amazing job. It is an unusual situation. There -- at Southampton,

amazing job. It is an unusual it is a very strange situation in

terms of the way the club is run. It was unusual. Not a properly

constituted board and so on. He has now gone but I think he might come

back. I think there is a possibility he might come back. They have to

calm the situation down. Mauricio Pochettino has 17 months left on his

contract. They need to try to tie him down to a new deal or he will go

somewhere. At someone who was a chief executive of a football club

in your normal life, there are tweets and comments from players

about the chief executive. A few past players have said, no one place

for a chief executive, they played for a manager. Did you experience

that? I tweeted myself and said I was great! When you were a chief

executive, did you have a close... ? There are lots of different things

you can do. It is a relationship between the manager and chairman/.

That is the important thing. It usually comes true when the

executive or the board, if that breaks down, it does not matter what

anyone says, it is a nightmare for a football club. All sorts of things

go wrong and you cannot control them. Whatever happens, she must

make sure that that rift is right. She needs to close it down and say

no one is going. The strange line is, none of the players are for sale

but the club is for sale. That is a really unusual situation. I would

hope for the situation of Southampton going forward, just make

sure nothing happens between now and the end of January. There is a final

thing on theirs. There is an outpouring of grief among people

over a chief executive going. Even when David Dean left Arsenal, David

Gill left Manchester United, it was not at this level. He was an unusual

character. He was more than just the chairman, he was in control of the

way the club was operating in terms of football and business. You called

it the Southampton way. He had very clear way he wanted everything down

from top to bottom with control over everything. He was intense

character. A lot of people bought into that. A lot of people did not.

He has been ruthless in himself. It is quite strange. I hope that

football does not suffer. They have made great strides. The two

full-backs were 18. There have been players coming through that football

club over many years. The big thing is the league position. Had they

been back in that group, you would be really worried for them just

now. They have probably got enough of a buffer. Let's talk about one of

the side in that group. Swansea are struggling at the moment and are

playing at the moment. They are in 14th position. They are taking on

Spurs, who have improved under Tim Sherwood. I am realistic. There are

tougher tests to come. We have had some tough games and done well,

particularly in the Premier league. We have a belief in the squad that

we will win every time we take to the field. Even if we have not good

performance in the first half, we have the mentality to turn it around

and the quality to be able to do that. I am under no illusions. I

know it is a tough job, no matter where you manage, at whatever

level. This is a big club and I am fully aware of that. I was fully

aware that when I took over. I am delighted to say we can talk to the

first-team coach at Swansea. Thank you for talking to us. Is this a

difficult period for the Yes, in terms of results, but we all

know we have to get points on the board. Can you put it down to

anything in particular? Well, I mean, everybody is talking about the

Europa cup and our involvement in that, but I think we have been

stretched. We have as many as seven or eight players out at the moment,

and with clubs like ourselves, if you lose seven or eight players,

inevitably the team and the squad will suffer. Does that mean you are

spending a lot of time in this transfer window scouring for

players? Is it a good time to bring them in? Yeah, I think so. Most

certainly, we have not acted in the market yet, but that is not to say

there are not lots of things going on behind the scenes. Hopefully, you

know, we need to get through this period. Within the next week or two,

we should get people like Jonathan de Guzman back, Nathan Dyer, Pablo

Hernandez, Michel Vorm. Michu is probably another couple of weeks

away, but the situation, I am sure will resolve itself in the next

couple of weeks, but we have to manage the squad, and there are

games to play in the meantime. Michael Laudrup has highlighted some

of them, West Ham, Cardiff, he has highlighted what an important period

this is. Yes, and again, again, one of the reasons, if you are looking

for why we have not picked up results, it is because we played the

likes of United, City, Chelsea, Everton, so we have played the

majority of the top teams in the last couple of weeks and months. It

has been a difficult time anyway, just the fact of the nature of the

opposition, but allied that to the Europa Cup and the injuries, these

are not excuses, but trying to find reasons why we have not picked up

the points. As I say, we have been in the majority of the games,

probably a bit unlucky not to have picked up the odd point here and

there. But the performances, I think if you get the performances right,

the results will follow. Thank you for talking to us, Alan, much

appreciated. Slightly unprofessional of me to

have my phone on during that interview, at least it did not play

Fat Bottomed Girls! So many players missing for Swansea, particularly in

central midfield, they forced into a change. Chico Flores comes into the

defence alongside Ashley Williams, just the one change for Swansea from

that team last week. As for Spurs, significant news, because Roberto

Soldado has been dropped, so this probably mean a switch in formation

for the first time under Tim Sherwood, Chadli makes only his

eighth league start today. Expect Dembele to be holding the midfield,

Lennon, Ericsson and Chadli just aired. Like Swansea, just the one

change from the Spurs side from their victory over Palace last

weekend. Dan hedge has texted us, Tim Sherwood has played 4-3-2 -1, I

hope Ericsson gets to play that role, he looked brilliant for Ajax.

I use a pricey has gone to that as opposed to 4-4-2. Not too surprising

against a team that love to play the ball. -- are you surprised. Your

text is absolutely spot-on, you have got five guys in midfield. I agree

with him about him taking so long to establish that position, because

watching them from the start of the season, I have been to see Spurs

quite a lot, and they have needed a number 10. They just did not have a

number 10. I did not know if Eriksson would be good enough, maybe

one from that group, so good to see him starting. Chadli, we would like

to see something from him, because physique wise, he has got absolutely

everything. Interesting that Tim Sherwood has changed it, because he

thought that formation was missing under AVB, but he has probably

listened and learned that they have been very open at times,

particularly in away games. Even though they won at Old Trafford,

where they played well... Under Sherwood, Jonathan Lord RoSPA did in

the Sunday Times, they have gone from a worst shot to goal ratio to

the best under Tim Sherwood. Didn't they also have the best shots on

target before that anyway? The chances have gone in, basically.

They have done very, very well. I am stunned, actually, he has done this,

because he made it clear that his predecessor had to Blake two

strikers, he always would, the Tottenham way, and low and behold

they are playing one. He has been right, pragmatic, I agree with

everything that has said, but if you make a big play of your manager

having two strikers, and this is what he will do, and you don't... He

is playing one off the striker, it is kind of one and a half strikers.

I am with you completely! I find it fascinating, because once you are in

the job, things change. He is right to play one striker, because you

cannot let Swansea have the ball the whole time, but you make a big play

of the fact that you have two and you do not do it... What else is

interesting is that he has turned Adebayor around in a short spell, in

the short-term, which a lot of managers do, with a partner, with

two laptop. Now Adebayor has to lead the line on his own. Adebayo said

one of the reasons behind as performance was Tim Sherwood saying,

go out and play football. Piazon a strike partner in every game. They

needed to bring this player back into the game. -- he has had a

strike partner in every game. I want to nip to Stamford Bridge, Steve

Wilson is there for Match Of The Day to a little later, Steve, we have

talked about the tactics, all sorts of things, how are you viewing the

dynamic between Jose Mourinho and David Moyes at the moment? Well,

Mourinho played a bit of a blinder in his press conferences at the end

of the week. There is no one better at getting the press to roll over so

he can tickle their tummies, and he did it splendidly this week. And

with this backhanded manner that he has, he heaped more pressure on

David Moyes by saying, he is the right man for the job, I am sure Man

United will finish top four, no problem, total ability. You expect

that from Mourinho. What I think David Moyes days, very cleverly, --

did, very cleverly, he looked at it and said, I am up against a tricky

customer bowling googlies, what am I going to do? I am not going to take

the English cricket stands, I will play a straight bat and not engage.

And that is what he did, he said, well, you know, he can talk about my

team if he likes, I disagree with him about Rooney. But he did not

engage, and I think that was pretty smart of David Moyes, because he

knows, if it comes down to a sort of battle of wills and wits between him

and Mourinho, in all likelihood David Moyes will end up losing. I

think they both deserve a bit of credit for the way they have

approached this game. No more cricket references, it is too

painful at the moment! We lost again, I assume? Take it as given!

In terms on the pitch, where will the battle be and lost? It is in

midfield, isn't it? The two outstanding midfield in the Premier

League at the moment belonged to Manchester City and Chelsea, and

when you look at creativity in that area, and you think of the

embarrassment of riches that Chelsea have, compare it to what Manchester

United have at the moment, with a few injuries, no Rooney, obviously,

Ashley Young out. But even at their best, you would say that Manchester

United, creatively, don't have what Chelsea have, Januzaj, exceptional

though he is, is still very young. It is too early to expect him to be

at that level week in, week out. Given that Chelsea's three behind

the striker are so creative and have added workrate to their game under

Mourinho, whoever plays in those defensive midfield positions for

Manchester United today are going to be very important. Darren Fletcher

is only just back into the reckoning, really, but has already

become a really key player for David Moyes in that position. He has tried

combinations, Cleverley, Carrick, gigs, he will be delighted to have

Fletcher back. I think that is where Chelsea will have the advantage over

Manchester United today. Thank you very much, Steve Wilson at the game,

that is on Match Of The Day 2, that is live on Radio 5 live from four

o'clock. You have written both teams down on a little bit of paper.

Inside Information! And the midfield two for Chelsea, three for

Manchester United, is where there are questions. If David Moyes puts

Kurgan were in... If you have got Cleverley, Carrick and Fletcher, he

will sit back and try to soak it up a little bit. If it is only two of

those three, then Moyes is going for it. He will have sat up thinking

about it all night last night. He is very adaptable, maybe not as

adaptable as Mourinho, but if that is not working, he will change it

quite quickly. He does not want to be beaten by the time he makes the

change. Steve was talking about the strength of the Chelsea midfield,

but clearly Mourinho thinks there is a problem about that, because he has

brought in Matt itch. He clearly sees an issue there. The once

specialist defenders. -- he wants. He feels that it is a bold rural

area he wants to strengthen. I do not think it is vulnerable, but

sometimes in European Games he had three or four sitting midfielders,

and obviously Ramirez can play in there. You have got that set,

someone who can give you an await European draw when you need it, more

than anything else. On the Chelsea signing of Matic, does that

highlight, as we look at all the Sunday papers today, people saying

United linked with this player that, Chelsea have gone, Aaron, this is

who we need, 20 million to Benfica. Well, they knew the player, they had

him previously, and they obviously had first option on him. It was an

easy and obvious transfer for Chelsea to do that, and for him to

come back and play for Mourinho, he has gone away and proved himself,

become a better player, and now Mourinho is saying, we will see him

next season. It is great to get him into the squad for January, but next

season he will be a big player. In that sense, they had to steal the

march. Jason may disagree, I don't see a great deal of that kind of

business being done in January. I think that might be the biggest deal

of the window in terms of cash. Does it highlight they are decisive and

Manchester United are indecisive? I think that is harsh. Chelsea have

been fairly indecisive themselves in the past! One of the great things

about Chelsea is how they could buy anyone, but you can't, certain

places will not sell to you, and they found that out with Rooney.

See, talking about the things that make a difference, Raphael is not

available, they will have to play Smalling against Hazard, the type of

player that Hazard would love to play against, so that would concern

me, Valencia being dragged back. So many texts about Luis Suarez and

penalties! I know! I will end with a couple. The tackle used to be seen

as an artform, now players go down time and again. Fans are like

managers, they only use in relation from their own standpoint, there

will be no change until fans are critical of their own players. From

Belfast, Pat Nevin is a dead ringer for my sister-in-law who lives in

Montreal! Thank you to Pat, Steve and Jason. Chelsea against

Manchester United on 5 live, and that is on Match Of The Day 2

tonight. We will see you in a couple of weeks. Bye-bye.