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Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD 2 Extra on BBC Two, | :00:00. | :00:32. | |
Mark Lawrenson, former Leicester captain Matt Elliott and journalist | :00:33. | :00:39. | |
Use the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058 | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
Over the next 45 and we will discuss the following... Manchester United | :00:45. | :01:01. | |
booed off, Louis Van Gaal booed off as they lose again. Leicester are | :01:02. | :01:06. | |
three clear at the top as they put three past Stoke. Can Arsenal record | :01:07. | :01:10. | |
Premier League win over Chelsea and we talked Spurs who are within | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
touching distance of Arsenal after 83-1 at Crystal Palace. The back | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
pages... The Sun newspaper has a headline... The Mail on Sunday | :01:21. | :01:29. | |
claiming that the big four are going for John Stones, Real Madrid, | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
Barcelona, Chelsea and by Chester city. The independent goes with this | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
story... We will get onto that in a moment | :01:36. | :01:50. | |
but first, the Manchester United defeat at Old Trafford. | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
Hear from Louis Van Gaal. What about the reaction today? There were one | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
or two Blues during the game, part-time and full-time. What is | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
your response? They part-time and full-time. What is | :02:02. | :02:06. | |
cannot deny it. I have seen the match also. I cannot deny it. But | :02:07. | :02:14. | |
also, for better or for worse, you have to stick together. What do you | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
say to those supporters to make them believe it will improve? Yes... | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
Because we are working very hard but we have also, a lot of injuries and | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
you cannot change that. I can change it not with words, so, it is also a | :02:32. | :02:40. | |
lot of unlock when you have five full-backs injured. You said, Mark, | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
it's the same interview every week. It is Groundhog Day, seriously. Can | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
I substantiate this? Were they booing the players coming off or | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
were they building the manager, or the result or all three? Yes, well, | :02:57. | :03:05. | |
I think probably all three. The booing started, I made a note, eight | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
minutes before half-time, that's the style of play, that's the caution. | :03:11. | :03:17. | |
That's everything. I suppose. But the manager, as Mark Lawrenson | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
knows, he was booed off at half-time and at the final whistle. I have not | :03:25. | :03:31. | |
been for a few months which tells its own story, I suppose. I have | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
been to Arsenal, Chelsea... Glory hunter! Leicester, you must have | :03:37. | :03:45. | |
been to Leicester. I was shocked, honestly. At how flattered us. You | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
will not be shocked. I was genuinely surprised at what has happened. Not | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
just to the style of play, which is shocking in itself. But the | :03:57. | :04:02. | |
atmosphere at the club. -- how flat it was. The club feels like it's | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
been defeated. I saw them at Anfield last week. The first time ever, I | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
said to you upstairs, I watch them, Manchester United and when they had | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
not got the ball, I closed my eyes and when I opened by eyes, five | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
seconds, every single Manchester United player was just in position. | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
It worked for them on the day but it was almost like so regimented, | :04:28. | :04:35. | |
Manchester United teams of two, three, five years ago, they would be | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
all over the place and that is the difference, it's so regimented. A | :04:39. | :04:44. | |
couple of things. Regarding the atmosphere... I have seen Manchester | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
United even understood Alex Ferguson booed off at half-time or full-time | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
at Old Trafford, I have seen Louis Van Gaal the season food as he goes | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
down the touchline because of the performance but what I haven't seen | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
in a long time and only mentioned it, the team actually been booed | :05:03. | :05:11. | |
while playing. Seven or eight minutes before half-time... That | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
must affect players when they are booed in the process of the game. | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
must affect players when they are are in the midst of the game | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
must affect players when they are mistake, they will booed louder... | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
Double thinking situations, mistake, they will booed louder... | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
called the Theatre of mistake, they will booed louder... | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
these days, it's like literally going to the theatre, | :05:38. | :05:38. | |
quiet and every now and then it's up ripple of applause and very | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
occasionally in ripple of applause and very | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
booed but it's happening more and more. You must | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
booed but it's happening more and bad place! But the other thing is, | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
everyone has picked up on it, it's not intimidating. As an opposition, | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
to go to Old not intimidating. As an opposition, | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
come on, in the past there would have been bravado, we might nick a | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
point but now, it's we can go and win. Let's get on to the tactics, | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
point but now, it's we can go and both sides played three at the back | :06:12. | :06:13. | |
and give Southampton credit, you should not be ignored in this | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
discussion. You had not been there for a while, given the discussion | :06:18. | :06:26. | |
about what is happening at United, when you go there do you feel the | :06:27. | :06:28. | |
whole package is a when you go there do you feel the | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
as though it's fallen behind? It's a minute thing but I wonder whether | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
it's symbolic, to the extent they must be one of the few Premier | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
League clubs who don't have the big screen, for example. Have they moved | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
with modern times? I don't think they have. You start off with | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
important things like the fact that the | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
important things like the fact that this week. For | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
important things like the fact that so proud for so long with its youth | :07:03. | :07:03. | |
important things like the fact that setup, lots of worrying signs, | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
But I think it's a very valid point. Has it moved with the times? People | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
say it's not important and in some ways it isn't but | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
say it's not important and in some every four, the press | :07:19. | :07:20. | |
say it's not important and in some not complaining. But if you compare | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
it to Real Madrid. Manchester City, Arsenal... It's like it's back in | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
the car park culture. A lot of fines would appreciate that the press are | :07:33. | :07:39. | |
uncomfortable. Absolutely, of course they would. -- a lot of the fans. | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
It's another sign that they don't appear to be moving on, they seem to | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
be stuck in the times of Alex Ferguson and they happened moved on. | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
The counterargument, in terms of sponsorship, they must have more | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
money now than they have ever had before? It's as though that has | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
usurped the football side. Can you talk to me at about the 3-5- two | :08:02. | :08:12. | |
formation. Southampton have used the back 35 times and having conceded. | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
It is a system that evidently works but then but why? It's working for | :08:18. | :08:25. | |
now. There is no golden formula or system that is bullet-proof. It's | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
about the players and how they adapt to it and it's working for | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
Southampton. Other teams have tried it to a lesser extent. I think it's | :08:33. | :08:41. | |
a problem some teams go 3- for-macro-3. But primarily it's | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
pretty obvious, it gives you extra security in the middle of defence. | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
The wingbacks can drop and form a back five. If they have the athletic | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
ability and the intent to get forward and deliver crosses, you | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
have got the extra man in midfield supporting them and importantly you | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
have two front players. Pros and cons with every system but it seems | :09:08. | :09:15. | |
to be working. Primarily you do to stop conceding goals. That is the | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
first spot, it's not that you know it's going to be good because you | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
are attacking. You are shipping goals, probably Southampton were, if | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
it works, you start to build from there. But the wingbacks have got to | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
be the most important people in the system. It worked for them yesterday | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
in the sense that they had a few opportunities on the break, use the | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
pace of players and when they had their back three, there were more | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
players going forward. United had a back three but at times it felt like | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
five because Lingard... They don't move out of position. I thought | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
Lingard looked lost in that position. The sad thing, it has been | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
a great season and so much to look at in terms of flair, look at layers | :10:10. | :10:16. | |
like Riyad Mahrez and Delie Ali. -- look at players. None of the players | :10:17. | :10:24. | |
at United... A team that was known for its player, that almost had a | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
knobbly on flair in the Premier League. -- had a monopoly. I wrote | :10:29. | :10:37. | |
this in my piece, it's almost as if the DNA has been altered, that's the | :10:38. | :10:45. | |
feeling that you get. Dave says how much worse could it get? Mark says | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
the tactics of the manager or as boring as it demeanour, it's time to | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
change. Andy says the Theatre of Dreams, it's more like a pantomime. | :10:55. | :11:01. | |
Jorge Mendes, the agent for Jose Mourinho, has labelled this love | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
letter story is totally absurd adding in a it doesn't occur to | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
anyone that a coach like Jose Mourinho can write letters to club | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
offering their services. Do you think the truth of this might be | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
somewhere in between? Possibly, I wouldn't mind betting that he's | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
written an article or peace somewhere about the art of | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
management. Which obviously, if he has, can be easily adapted to the | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
story that is coming out but I can't honestly... The picture of him | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
sitting in his back bedroom writing this I? Give that to Bobby Charlton | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
then he is in. I don't see that. At all. It is not his style. I wouldn't | :11:40. | :11:47. | |
have thought but? He might put a dossier together perhaps in | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
preparation for being considered for the job down the line? It is what a | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
lot of managers do. But someone has obviously got a sniff of that, but | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
as for writing a formal letter to whoever it may concern... I think | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
it's worth saying that the journalist who has written it... He | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
is a very good journalist, not the type of guy who would just make | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
something up and and I think there have been rumours before that Jose | :12:20. | :12:23. | |
Mourinho would have liked the United job. Yes... Before the Chelsea job. | :12:24. | :12:31. | |
I know it's a quantum leap from saying that to saying he has written | :12:32. | :12:35. | |
a 6-page letter but as I say, I don't think that will have come out | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
of nothing. I presume he has written books, has he not? Or with his | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
cooperation? I bet there is some stuff in there about how would you | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
manage or go about managing. It could easily be lifted. As you say, | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
I note lots of former players who if they think a management job is | :12:57. | :12:58. | |
coming up will put together some kind of dossier... A bloke who has | :12:59. | :13:05. | |
won everything there is to win. He does not... All right... But if he | :13:06. | :13:12. | |
feels which are in mind he did not get it when David Moyes got it, if | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
he feels he will have to persuade Manchester United and the | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
hierarchy... But he has got a super agent? Even he might have to do | :13:21. | :13:28. | |
that. The other thing... Tell us about yourself! But they will save | :13:29. | :13:36. | |
what are you going to do? When every single competition that I ever | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
entered. The argument is, they did not do that with Louis Van Gaal. | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
Because they ought to have known how he has played football, over his | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
career, they did not sit down and ask him about his so-called | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
philosophy. You laugh about this thing, tell us about yourself, I | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
take your point. But I think in English football we are still | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
notoriously... Nudge and a wink, who you know, we all know Jose Mourinho | :14:06. | :14:12. | |
and has qualities but I think if you take the hiring process in something | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
like the NFL in America... It is a lot more formal and thorough than | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
the hiring process in English football and I think English | :14:21. | :14:24. | |
football is starting to move towards that. Jose Mourinho knows there is | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
opposition to him within United about his style so I think as we | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
have all said, maybe there is a truth somewhere, he has prepared | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
some kind of dossier, about why he may feel, however absurd it may | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
sound, that he needs to persuade people. I get that but as you | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
rightly say, they didn't do judo Lydon is on Louis Van Gaal. One | :14:49. | :14:52. | |
final thing, Ronald Koeman immediately in his press conference | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
dismissing any link with the Chelsea job, saying that was rubbish, I | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
paraphrase that. He said a very good week but signing Charlie Austin | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
under the radar and gets that. It has gone swimmingly for him, | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
bringing Charlie Austin on at that stage of the game. A late goal, | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
kills them. Going back to United, Louis Van Gaal... He bemoans the | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
fact that teams come on and said outburst to defend. They came here | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
and defended well, as if it was something that goes against the | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
grain. He has got to come up with a theory or way of breaking teams. | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
The game was up in that regard when he set about Sheffield United last | :15:36. | :15:43. | |
week. They did create chances on the break. I thought they played well. | :15:44. | :15:49. | |
They are a decent side. Of those two sides, they were the only side with | :15:50. | :15:57. | |
any urgency. Mane had that touch on the right-hand side. United didn't | :15:58. | :16:05. | |
manage any of that. #bbcfootball and 85058 to get in touch with us. We | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
have a preview of Everton against Swansea. England have lost another | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
wicket in the cricket. Yes, it is Ben Stokes who is out. A six wicket | :16:17. | :16:25. | |
for the South African bowler. It could have been fireworks for | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
England, a new ball coming out, Ben Stokes looking to have his eye in. | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
But he is on his way back to the pavilion. England Trail by two to | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
three. Arsenal against Chelsea this afternoon. You will be able to | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
listen to it on five line. Any predictions? I would think without | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
presence of Jose Mourinho, too busy writing love letters to football... | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
They have a better side. Ozil comes back in today, and Sanchez. I think | :16:59. | :17:05. | |
they will be too much for Chelsea. Ozil coming back is a big boost. If | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
he is 100% fit, it will not take him long to get to that level. They've | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
kept themselves at the top of the lake without them. It | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
kept themselves at the top of the boost. Chelsea are a conundrum. You | :17:20. | :17:20. | |
don't boost. Chelsea are a conundrum. You | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
them. But you have to fancy Elliott -- Arsenal strongly. That point | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
about them keeping themselves near the top | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
about them keeping themselves near these pliers out injured... If you | :17:37. | :17:37. | |
go back to the Norwich these pliers out injured... If you | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
stick that Wenger got about Sanchez doing his hamstring in the game | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
stick that Wenger got about Sanchez one. A lot of people at that stage | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
were ready for Arsenal to plummet without Sanchez. They were. Today, I | :17:52. | :17:59. | |
don't think it is as straightforward as the other two. This is the last | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
psychological barrier for Arsenal but they haven't been able to get | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
over before, maybe because there was this thing with Mourinho and Arsene | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
Wenger. Mourinho was the one person who got under they are's skin, above | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
all others. Even at the start of season when Arsenal were playing | :18:18. | :18:25. | |
well and Chelsea were struggling, I can't remember who they had lost | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
two, Mourinho said, we will beat Arsenal. He knew he | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
two, Mourinho said, we will beat recently where they were unable to | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
beat the four top clubs. But this is a massive game for | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
Arsenal are not going to fall for the three card Costa trick today? | :18:49. | :18:55. | |
Arsenal are not going to fall for When you look at who Arsene Wenger | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
inherited in goal, it is amazing he's gone through all those years | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
without a really goalkeeper. When you look at the | :19:02. | :19:08. | |
psychological advantage that Chelsea have had, when you have been in | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
teams, has it ever affected you, your manager's relationship with the | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
teams, has it ever affected you, opposing manager? It has in a | :19:18. | :19:18. | |
positive way. Even opposing manager? It has in a | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
two managers. I will not go into detail over who it was! | :19:25. | :19:33. | |
two managers. I will not go into shame. Martin O'Neill and others. | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
Martin used to have this mentality. He stoked up the rivalry between | :19:39. | :19:44. | |
certain clubs when he had a difference with other managers. It | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
may have given us that extra bit, it may have made us give him even more. | :19:50. | :19:58. | |
But situations are different. He had a mental block with Mourinho, but it | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
isn't an issue now. Arsenal are looking very strong. For me, you | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
can't really back against Arsenal. But you don't know what Charles -- | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
what Chelsea is going to turn out. Ron Atkinson came to Anfield and | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
some Muppets, Liverpool fans, actually sprayed them with CS gas | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
when they came off the coach. We heard all this from the dressing | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
room. Someone said, that will work for us, thank you very much! All the | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
best, boys. That is the 4pm game, Arsenal | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
against Chelsea. You can hear it on 5 Live. Everton against Swansea, we | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
are at the ground. Roberto Martinez has calmed down from the Chelsea | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
are at the ground. Roberto Martinez game and makes two changes. Jagielka | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
is not 100% fit, and they have half an eye on the League Cup second leg | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
on Wednesday. An intriguing day for Swansea is the, with the Italian | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
Francesco Guidolin parachuted in on a rescue mission. He makes one | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
change at right back. Angel Rangel for Naughton. Thank you. Guidolin | :21:17. | :21:27. | |
needs to make an instant impact, doesn't he? He needs to. But will | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
he. It is different for a foreign coach, or head coach, to come in and | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
make an impact so quickly. We have seen similar incidents... You can | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
compare it to Aston Villa's situation. Remi Garde has come into | :21:46. | :21:51. | |
the fray and needed to change things straightaway, and it hasn't | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
happened. There is no bedding in process, getting to know the players | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
or the league, and Guidolin has that problem. I'm not sure the players... | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
I do fear for Swansea. I'm not sure the players have that relegation | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
dogfight mentality about them. It reminds me of West Brom. I saw | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
Swansea against Watford on Monday night. Two very average teams. This | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
is the first time under the new regime at Swansea that they have had | :22:21. | :22:27. | |
a catalogue of making bad decisions. I think that might come to haunt | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
them. I think they have a real chance of being relegated, Swansea. | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
I agree. It's a shame because they have made so many good decisions. | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
Some terrific decisions. This is the first time it feels they are all at | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
sea. They've been such a good team to watch over the years, and I've | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
really admired the fact that they have stuck to the same style. They | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
haven't fallen into the trap where they have appointed a manager that | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
goes in a totally different direction. They've kept the | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
continuity. But this time, it feels like they're plan B has fallen down. | :23:07. | :23:13. | |
It just feels like it is panic stations at the moment. I saw them | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
at Oxford couple of weeks ago in the cup. Another thing is selling | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
Shelvey. I know they got decent money for him. Without a | :23:23. | :23:31. | |
replacement, though. He is a good player, Shelvey. And to sell one of | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
your best players to arrival, I thought that was an odd decision. | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
Unless you have a replacement, it is even stranger. If you suddenly | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
decide you don't fancy him any more, get somebody else through the door | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
before you sell him. The other thing is, the players. The front players | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
have really stopped playing. If you saw the team, Chelsea first game of | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
the season, the front three absolutely tour Chelsea apart. We | :24:03. | :24:09. | |
haven't seen that since. Dyer has left, and Bony... They haven't | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
replaced him properly. Ayew has been linked with a move away. Sunday -- | :24:16. | :24:26. | |
and Bafetimbi Gomis. But to sell Shelvey, have a link with Ayew and a | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
rumour about Gomis - that implies that something isn't 100% in the | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
squad. I think the fact that Shelvey has left. It's a time of need, and | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
he is a top-class footballer. Has he got the attributes that Swansea are | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
looking for in a relegation situation? Debatable. The fact that | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
he is gone suggests something was not quite right, because they | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
couldn't get the best out of him. It looks like you parachuted out. And | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
on Guidolin. He is an experienced manager. He did very good work at | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
Udinese. Are we being slightly disrespectful? I mean, are you lot? | :25:10. | :25:22. | |
I don't think so. I think that the analogy Marc Sneyd is fair. The | :25:23. | :25:29. | |
manner in which it has been done speaks of confusion, to me. They | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
appoint Alan Curtis as the caretaker for the rest of the season, and then | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
two weeks later, after they have been knocked out the FA Cup by | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
Oxford, they decide that he isn't the caretaker for the rest of the | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
season, and another guy is coming in. There is no clarity over who is | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
in charge, Curtis or diesel in. It is the opposite of what we have had | :25:54. | :26:00. | |
from Swansea, when everything was clear. The signs are not good. And | :26:01. | :26:07. | |
he has a week before the end of the transfer market. Who is identifying | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
the weaknesses? He is in charge today. They are out the cup. Next | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
time they play, the transfer market has ended. Pete says, Swansea will | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
go down this season. There's no obvious plan. Guidolin says, just | :26:24. | :26:34. | |
because we don't -- Mary says, just because we don't know Guidolin, | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
doesn't mean he's not a good manager. He is capable of steadying | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
the ship. If you are an Everton centre-half, would you be screaming | :26:44. | :26:45. | |
at your midfield for more protection? I would be screaming at | :26:46. | :26:51. | |
my full-backs as well! Way they played... Two centre halves, two | :26:52. | :26:59. | |
holding midfielders. Everton are a good side. They play attractive | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
football. One of the top goal-scorers in the league. But they | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
do have trouble conceding, both home and away. They need to finish off | :27:10. | :27:16. | |
games and sew them up. I know it is part of the game plan, but I would | :27:17. | :27:22. | |
constantly be on at the central midfielders. The goalkeeper is an | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
issue. Everybody who watches Everton Luczak Eddie Howe and says, why | :27:29. | :27:40. | |
would you keep Howard in, when the other goalkeeper has done really | :27:41. | :27:43. | |
well. And you would have to lass sued the two full-backs in. Martinez | :27:44. | :27:51. | |
was the same at Wigan. Great going forward but defensively light. He is | :27:52. | :27:58. | |
being pragmatic, I suppose. If you are too-0 up, try and settle for the | :27:59. | :28:06. | |
win. Not try and settle, win 2-0! There is so much to admire about | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
them going forward. You look at Berkeley, John Stones top Mac I | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
noticed Jamie Carragher a couple of times in his column saying, Stones | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
is a fantastic player, and we all admire him, but sometimes... That's | :28:26. | :28:37. | |
what Jamie Carragher said. Only because he's got fantastic ability, | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
but he will end up giving it to somebody in part of the picture | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
doesn't really want it, which then causes a problem. He is a great | :28:48. | :28:51. | |
footballer, but he makes mistakes in the central midfield. It doesn't | :28:52. | :28:58. | |
detract from his quality. Don't stop him playing that way, but when he is | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
under pressure and he gives it to someone who has a bloke on him... It | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
is his distribution and where he distributes it. It is fine that he | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
tries it. I don't have a problem with that. Or is it the quality of | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
the team-mates around him? I thought the presenter would have got that. | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
the team-mates around him? I thought like to spread it around the panel! | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
The one time you like to spread it around the panel! | :29:29. | :29:40. | |
Viera can have two men on him and still keep the ball. I really hope | :29:41. | :29:51. | |
that Stones, Dele Alli, I hope we see them in the first 11. Both of | :29:52. | :30:00. | |
them, Stones in particular, has been around a bit. I hope that we... | :30:01. | :30:07. | |
them, Stones in particular, has been is a breath of fresh air because he | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
isn't hoofing it up the pitch. We are saying that part of the | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
isn't hoofing it up the pitch. We he needs to hoof it up is because he | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
doesn't have the quality of people around him. With England, | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
doesn't have the quality of people there was a slightly higher quality | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
doesn't have the quality of people of player who would be able to deal | :30:30. | :30:32. | |
with that. Was that a quantum leap? You get your dictionary out! | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
with that. Was that a quantum leap? going to move on to Spurs. We will | :30:37. | :30:40. | |
talk about Dele Alli. The team that we have, the squad | :30:41. | :30:54. | |
that we have from 18 months ago... The quality... We are trying to say | :30:55. | :31:02. | |
one more time that we are the youngest squad in the Premier | :31:03. | :31:07. | |
League. I think the way we play and the maturity that we show we look | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
older but it's important to keep working hard and any distraction... | :31:13. | :31:20. | |
I look forward now and the challenges for the next game. Spurs | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
coming from 1-0 down to win 3-1 at Crystal Palace. They are for the | :31:26. | :31:36. | |
five points away from Leicester. Hugo Lloris has been praised as the | :31:37. | :31:44. | |
best keeper and Hugo Lloris, his influence, as the captain, should | :31:45. | :31:50. | |
not be underestimated. Not at all. Tottenham are a very good | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
defensively. Look at them yesterday against Crystal Palace, they held on | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
for a while and that is what teams have to do. They reminded me of | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
Chelsea last year. You buy some time in a game, it's not happening for | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
the forward is the other team are having a good spell and you make | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
sure you don't concede. That is what they do | :32:13. | :32:14. | |
sure you don't concede. That is what good a pairing is anyone in the | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
league. I would not disagree. The centre-half players, both of them... | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
That side, very complex. He can play a bed for a centre-half, that switch | :32:26. | :32:31. | |
past, pinging it out for Delie Ali against Everton... They look a good, | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
well balanced, all-round team. Options on the bench. Yesterday... I | :32:37. | :32:45. | |
was going to say Danny Rose and Kieran Trippier... Walker... Plenty | :32:46. | :32:53. | |
of options. The only question is upfront, if Harry Kane gets injured, | :32:54. | :32:56. | |
do they have someone to get enough goals, it's debatable but they | :32:57. | :33:01. | |
looked like a work in progress. They will buy someone before the end of | :33:02. | :33:07. | |
the year. You will think so. They have never been in a better position | :33:08. | :33:11. | |
and they will kick themselves, in case Harry Kane falls over, why | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
wouldn't you go and buy somebody? But he has been very candid this | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
week, Mauricio Pochettino, he is not going to risk bringing he might have | :33:22. | :33:27. | |
used the phrase bad apple into the squad. That does not mean to say | :33:28. | :33:33. | |
you're not signing anyone. But there is obviously a real... You know... | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
There is going to be a lot of thought going into it before they | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
bring someone. I wouldn't be be? Because the person they bring in all | :33:44. | :33:46. | |
have to accept playing second fiddle to Harry Kane. You would think so. | :33:47. | :33:55. | |
The flip side of that, I guess, what a good player Harry Kane has become. | :33:56. | :34:01. | |
Every time I watch him I think he is becoming the complete centre | :34:02. | :34:04. | |
forward. His hold-up play is great, his linkup play, he provides his | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
share of assists and finishing and I think he's a great player and if we | :34:11. | :34:18. | |
are talking, as I am talking about England, he has to be pressing for a | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
place. The battle between him and Wayne Rooney, if it is a battle | :34:23. | :34:25. | |
between them, maybe you would like to think they can accommodate both | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
of them because I think to leave Harry Kane out of an England team is | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
a big call. I think he is the number one striker England and you can't | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
upset him. You cannot kick him, he gets on that, a fantastic work | :34:39. | :34:48. | |
ethic. Harry Kane and a N other, isn't it? He could play on his own | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
up there. Physical, strong, after powering other players. Do you look | :34:55. | :34:59. | |
at the Spurs squad and the improvement of Harry Kane and | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
Lamela, I know Nacer Chadli has been out injured. Moussa Dembele has had | :35:05. | :35:13. | |
a great season. Bearing in mind some of those players, they arrived as | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
part of the group... Can you see the influence of proper coaching on how | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
they have developed? Tottenham have got a set way of playing. You can | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
see from the stands, on television, how they set up. Each player knows | :35:28. | :35:33. | |
his job but they are quite fluid, a lot of movement, short list of | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
triangles in and around the age of the box. They sometimes over | :35:39. | :35:42. | |
elaborate. They try and score a perfect goal at times, they could be | :35:43. | :35:46. | |
more clinical. But going forward, they will be a force and they have a | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
lot of numbers of quality players. Delie Ali has been unbelievable. He | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
must, privately, have surprised them. He is young, he will improve, | :35:56. | :36:01. | |
he has been sensational, really. Dear, oh dear. Let's get an update | :36:02. | :36:16. | |
on the cricket. England 267-7, the deficit 208. Chris Woakes and Moeen | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
Ali fighting hard against South Africa. A new ball in hand. The pit | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
is slowly but surely coming to life. England 267-7. Leicester beat Stoke | :36:26. | :36:33. | |
3-0, three points clear at the top of the table before Arsenal play | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
Chelsea. How big a win was that for Leicester? Massive, a couple of | :36:38. | :36:42. | |
reasons. A little bit of a stutter of late. One out of five, drawn | :36:43. | :36:50. | |
three. Lost one. Few people asking some questions and perhaps some | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
doubts creeping in? Against Stoke, you never quite know what you're | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
going to come up against. They can be hit and miss. Yesterday they were | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
a mess and Leicester took full advantage. The first 20 minutes, it | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
was tight but they dominated, when Danny Drinkwater got the strike, the | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
first golfer Leicester outside the box... Yes! But when that went in, | :37:13. | :37:19. | |
there was no looking back. Excuse me, when they beat Tottenham the | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
other week, I think that was... If you are in the dressing room | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
afterwards, you seriously start thinking, we are going to finish in | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
the top four and we might even have a snigger at winning the whole | :37:34. | :37:38. | |
thing. They are ten points clear. I keep waiting for them to blow up. -- | :37:39. | :37:47. | |
have a sneak. Stuttgart are decent team. I thought Spurs would beat | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
them and they are keeping going. You know, they are doing it with real | :37:51. | :37:58. | |
style, as well. Look at the assist from Riyad Mahrez for the third | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
goal. Absolutely great, Jamie Vardy still looking razor sharp. A great | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
team to watch. A couple of journalists up but United yesterday | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
were obviously comparing what it is like watching Leicester with United | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
but a couple of them saying Leicester are the best team he has | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
seen this season. Very good to watch. You watch them home and away | :38:20. | :38:27. | |
so when you look at them, the next run of games, Liverpool at home, | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
away against Manchester City and Arsenal... It's not really, judging | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
by how they have played a run that should concern them? They are not | :38:36. | :38:41. | |
intimidated by the prospect of those fixtures. If there was a run of | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
similar games before Christmas, a six-game period, everyone thought, | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
here we go, they will take a tumble and they did not. They lost one game | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
in that sequence, I think. They have gone on to confound the expert and | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
the expectations of most people. But it's a collective effort, Riyad | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
Mahrez and Jamie Vardy rightly getting plaudits. Do you think they | :39:04. | :39:11. | |
are built on partnerships to read the team? Whether it be Danny | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
Drinkwater... The team pretty much picks itself. Over the last couple | :39:19. | :39:28. | |
of months. All players throughout have come in and done a superb job. | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
Simpson proved if you doubters wrong. -- throughout the team. A few | :39:34. | :39:42. | |
of the reserves. And the manager. We talk about so-called experts, when | :39:43. | :39:48. | |
Claudio Ranieri was appointed there was almost uniform underwhelming... | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
Everybody was thinking, this is a step accurate and he has proved | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
everybody wrong. What he has done, superbly well, is look at the team, | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
he hasn't made any changes initially, it's been mentioned, he | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
has kept the backroom staff, that's important, Steve Walsh... They know | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
the players, the players know them and they can relate what he was | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
trying to do and he has adopted a system that suits the players. He | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
has got the personnel to do it. If Riyad Mahrez has scored two | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
penalties... Seven points clear and they would have won, highly likely, | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
against Bournemouth and Aston Villa. That is beyond belief. He has built | :40:32. | :40:39. | |
on Nigel Pearson, he did a good job. The players say that. Yes. One of | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
the games of the season at Carrow Road, Liverpool beating Norwich 5-4. | :40:46. | :40:51. | |
Even Jurgen Klopp was saying his side can be easy to play against. By | :40:52. | :40:54. | |
that, does he mean you can score against them from set pieces? You | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
can, you can believe them as well. They do not really have... If you | :41:00. | :41:05. | |
look at a lot of the teams that they have beaten this year, Crystal | :41:06. | :41:11. | |
Palace, West Ham... West Bromwich, look at those teams that are | :41:12. | :41:14. | |
physical but in the right manner with Liverpool, it's a real problem. | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
They concede from set pieces but they concede, | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
They concede from set pieces but left-back, Moreno, makes mistakes | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
They concede from set pieces but they have got at the club, the only | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
left-back before the end of August, the previous manager must have | :41:34. | :41:34. | |
looked and thought the previous manager must have | :41:35. | :41:41. | |
a left-back. He is at with the empties. Luis Enrique. Penalties | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
conceded yesterday, one of the most bizarre pieces of defending. Chelsea | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
when they won 3-1. The first role of defending, the guy you are marking, | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
no 30 years. It's a catalogue and the only thing for Jurgen Klopp, he | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
knew within two weeks what he had got. And it has not changed. He has | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
not had his mind changed. We are not that bad. They are about bad, | :42:11. | :42:15. | |
defensively. Izzard leadership? It's part of it, they are a soft touch. | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
-- is it leadership? To do your job, they can do it on occasions but it's | :42:24. | :42:32. | |
-- is it leadership? To do your job, Switched off. The ball was into the | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
box. People know they are a liability back there. The example | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
was Sebastian Bassong. liability back there. The example | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
of the game. Lumped liability back there. The example | :42:46. | :42:48. | |
Three of them backed off. They liability back there. The example | :42:49. | :42:50. | |
down, should have been a liability back there. The example | :42:51. | :43:02. | |
ground. Could you not? Yes. Salford. When it comes to the game, they | :43:03. | :43:06. | |
ground. Could you not? Yes. Salford. conceded a goal against Olson at | :43:07. | :43:09. | |
West Brom and Emre Can was marking him, I kid you not. The ball was | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
comment from behind me and I am shouting and looking at Olsen, he | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
never even looked at the ball and Olsen got a look in and scored. Come | :43:18. | :43:24. | |
on, Mark, your ladder is not a bad player. He could do with a bit of | :43:25. | :43:32. | |
pace? He has inherited his father's pace. We have ten seconds left. They | :43:33. | :43:40. | |
won 5-4. Roberto Fermino, every game he looks more and more settled. He | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
can blow hot and cold. But he is great. | :43:46. | :43:52. | |
can blow hot and cold. But he is you. Arsenal against Chelsea on BBC | :43:53. | :43:54. | |
Radio 5 Live from 4pm and receive further highlights later on tonight | :43:55. | :43:56. | |
on BBC One. | :43:57. | :43:59. |