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coming up on Match of the Day Extra, Mourinho and Pellegrini go | :00:33. | :00:40. | |
head to head for the first time in English football as Chelsea and | :00:41. | :00:44. | |
Manchester city need. Is the north-east derby already a win for | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
Gus Poyet at? We will have -- Will Hernandez's Golby a defining moment | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
for David Moyes? Who is the best partnership in the league? And who | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
will take over at Crystal Palace? With me in the studio, Mark | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
Lawrenson, Conor McNamara and Matt Lawton. We want your views as well. | :01:09. | :01:22. | |
And we want your views as well and who the best strike partnership in | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
the Premier League is. It was a debate that started on 606 last | :01:27. | :01:35. | |
night. Is it Rooney and van Persie, or storage and Suarez? -- storage. | :01:36. | :01:47. | |
We will give you the results later. What caught your view yesterday, | :01:48. | :01:55. | |
Mark? I just think the 70th minute at Manchester United, from there to | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
the end of the game was probably the biggest moment in David Moyes's | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
managerial career. If they had been beaten by Stoke City yesterday, | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
imagine the headlines on every single back page this morning. I | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
think you are right. If they had lost, that would have been the main | :02:14. | :02:22. | |
story. The Liverpool from forums -- performance struck me. Luis Suarez | :02:23. | :02:29. | |
was sensational. I was uncomfortable with the desire to keep him over the | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
summer. But I guess they felt quite justified in that yesterday. You | :02:34. | :02:40. | |
were at St Mary's. There has to come a point where Southampton are not | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
called the surprise package? I thought it might have been a banana | :02:46. | :02:52. | |
skin. But they pressed, they give the opposition. The attack the | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
fullbacks and the central defenders. You expect them to get caught out. | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
But last weekend they did it at Old Trafford, last week they did it at | :03:02. | :03:09. | |
Fulham. They deserve to be third. We will look back over yesterday's | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
games in detail later. First, let's look ahead to one of today's big | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
games. Chelsea against Manchester city. Here are the thoughts of both | :03:21. | :03:32. | |
managers. It is a, yes. It is a very good team. But every match is a test | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
and every match is three points. It doesn't make a difference. Of | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
course, it is an important moment. It is always an important moment to | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
play the team that has a chance to win the Premier League. I repeat the | :03:51. | :03:57. | |
same thing we -- I said when we played against Manchester United, it | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
is a match of six points. They play at home. This is our third game | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
playing away. We hope we can continue winning. Will have you | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
enjoyed dealing with more out of those managers? -- who have you | :04:13. | :04:20. | |
enjoyed dealing with? I'm afraid, we are all a bit soft when it comes to | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
Jose Mourinho. You have gone moist in the eye! We were very pleased he | :04:25. | :04:36. | |
came back, losing Fergie. It has left a huge hole in English | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
football. To get Joseph back was a massive boost. I find him utterly | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
fascinating. He can be maddening, he can be a courageous. In his first | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
term, some of the things he said and did, he incurred the wrath of UEFA, | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
got branded in -- an enemy of football. For us, as an industry, | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
great copy. Pellegrini is the chill Chilean. He is not great copy. | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
Intriguing all the same. He is probably what that football club | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
needed, a chilled Chilean. Somebody who is not going to get too carried | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
away? That is exactly what he is doing. With the two Spaniards they | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
have got in there who are running the clubs in -- club in terms of the | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
players they bring in, you can suddenly see there seems to be a | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
plan. At Southampton that is what they are doing. The Chairman, I | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
didn't particularly like him for what he did to Nigel Adkins, but he | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
has got a plan. With Manchester city, there is an element of that. | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
My problem with Manchester city would be that without Vincent | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
Kompany, they are not the same team. I think there is a parallel with | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
Pochettino and Pellegrini coming in under the radar. You don't get to | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
cross-examine them when you interview them. But it keeps them | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
below the radar. They are quite happy with that. Let the team do the | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
talking for them. Pellegrini is a very intelligent man but he doesn't | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
feel the need to entertain as Mourinho does. Just continue this, , | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
this is great, travel abroad with Manchester City, | :06:23. | :06:58. | |
which you already have, do you sense a difference on those club trips? | :06:59. | :07:06. | |
Yes, I don't think Mancini with a great entertainer either. He didn't | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
see press conferences as the stage that Mourinho does. He was more at | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
home with it. He felt more confident having won the title. Pellegrini is | :07:14. | :07:20. | |
quite a humble guy. Because he is such a tall man, you stand beside | :07:21. | :07:25. | |
him and he is a big presence. His personality doesn't need to be as | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
loud. Imagine the dressing room when he talks. Everybody stops. A good | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
yardstick for a manager is when everybody in the club likes him. I | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
don't think it Manchester City that was the case with Mancini. I don't | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
do was particularly well liked. This guy gives me the impression he is. | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
We get a difference in philosophy? In terms of structure and hierarchy | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
and how both clubs are run? Possibly. There is a very definite | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
modern European structure at Manchester city. They are seen as | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
the two great moneybags of English football? Yes. City are being quite | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
cute. I think they will emerge at the head of the pack at the end of | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
the season. They have the most complete squad, the most complete | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
team and they have got a very calm manager. The guys from Barcelona, as | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
we talked about, there is a plan, there is a training ground cumin. | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
You are always going to have that settling in period and getting used | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
to the new owners. You had the period with Garry Cook. You had that | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
change at the top. They now seem settled. I think they are only going | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
one way. Have you been to city lately due Mac all the buildings. | :08:53. | :09:02. | |
The infrastructure around the stadium... And they have inherited | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
the gasworks. They are virtually cleaning the soil. As you do! You | :09:07. | :09:16. | |
don't want dirty soil! Let's move onto the big derby in the North East | :09:17. | :09:23. | |
Sunderland against Newcastle. I think there is just as much pressure | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
on them to win it. They need to start winning games. Goss will know | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
that. I have seen them at home twice this year and they have done OK. | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
They are not far away. United, I thought they were good. At Fulham, | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
they were good. We have to respect them. It is not a foregone | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
conclusion. Any result there would be a good result. A draw or a win. | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
But we want to win if we can. If you need to win one game in this | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
football club, it is this derby. We know that. We need a win, we need | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
the three points. We are desperate to go there and do well. If we can | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
start doing that in this game, it is perfection. They are always special. | :10:10. | :10:15. | |
I don't think you can analyse these games. It is unique. Let's bring in | :10:16. | :10:25. | |
Kevin Kilbane at the Stadium of light. We heard Gus Poyet say that | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
if there is one game that needs to be won, it is this one. Alan Pardew | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
says the pressure is on Sunderland. Is it? Possibly. This is the game | :10:36. | :10:43. | |
that Sunderland need to turn their season around. They have not won | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
this season. Looking at them at Swansea last week, when they | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
conceded three goals in about seven or eight minutes, that is the | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
telling factor. As soon as you concede, they cannot stop teams | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
scoring against them. They need to improve on that now. Let's look at | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
the table. They are seven points adrift. This could be a hopeless | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
cause for a Gus Poyet very quickly? It could be. The disappointing thing | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
about last week was that you kind of felt that once di Canio had gone, | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
there would be a lift at the football club. It just has not | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
happened. I watched them against Liverpool. The moment Liverpool | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
scored, their confidence just disappeared. Beating Newcastle last | :11:32. | :11:41. | |
season was the catalyst for di Canio's success in keeping them up. | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
That is what they are banking on today. Gus Poyet will have learned | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
more about the second half at Swansea, about those players. Talk | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
about a quick learning curve. That was unbelievable. The first game he | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
came in, parity, and then they crashed. He will know about the | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
weaknesses. You learn about football and characters more when you get | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
beat. You see how they react. Very important giving -- given the new | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
manager coming in, players being gutless etc. They raise a danger | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
that Sunderland go at this hammer and tongs, get summary sent off | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
early. In the old days, it was all about taking the legs of someone in | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
a derby. Now you have got to press and deny the opposition pace. If | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
Sunderland get too pumped up, they are in massive trouble. Would that | :12:36. | :12:46. | |
be a concern for you, Kevin? Yes. I think they will probably be looking | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
for somebody like Lee Carter mould to stamp his authority on midfield. | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
He has a tendency to overstep the mark. I'm sure that Gus Poyet will | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
not want that to happen. There is a history of red cards in this | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
fixture. Somebody needs to be careful they do not get a man sent | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
off quickly. Newcastle had a player sent off last season but they | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
outplayed Sunderland for a long periods after that. What have you | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
made of Sunderland -- Newcastle this season? They are mid-table. Some | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
games they play very well, some games they are all full. We were at | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
the game at Goodison Park a few weeks ago. They were totally | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
dominated in the first half. They were fortunate. I think in the | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
second half they played really well. They didn't really test Everton as | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
much as they would like. They have got a lot of quality. That game, the | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
goals they scored in the second half against Everton, give them a sense | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
of belief. They had a good win at Cardiff and last week at home to | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
Liverpool they played really well. I think they are in a position where | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
they need to start getting results. Kevin, we will let you go, so you | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
don't have to keep battling whatever is flying overhead at the moment. Do | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
you think there are plenty of positives for Newcastle to take out | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
of how they have performed? Absolutely. Given that last week | :14:18. | :14:24. | |
they played a team of Liverpool's quality, yes. You're talking about | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
two teams in a very different state of mind at the moment, meeting | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
today. You always say you play with your heart. Most important today, | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
you play with your head. It is so easy to get sent off nowadays. It is | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
a big thing for Sunderland. They should not get carried away. | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
Newcastle will just sit and say, come on, try to beat us. You could | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
argue on the disciplinary front, it is the same for Newcastle as well, | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
they have had a couple of red cards this season. Stephen Taylor on the | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
opening weekend. Last week's was denying a goal-scoring opportunity. | :15:06. | :15:13. | |
They haven't. Steven Taylor has missed a lot of football. I wonder | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
how threatened the Newcastle defence will be. I don't know where the pace | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
is upfront. The mass of thing in Newcastle's favours Loic Remy. He | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
has that little bit of impact that Sunderland have been missing. On the | :15:27. | :15:34. | |
confidence thing, Fletcher told the Observer today di Canio didn't want | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
us to smile, it was too much. What does he mean it was too much, as in | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
laughing or enjoying yourself? Obviously they weren't, he is a | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
raving nutcase, what do you expect? What comes through from that article | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
is it is going to take Gus Poyet more than the two weeks he's had to | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
get the morale back, to get them enjoying themselves again. You could | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
think, as I say, talking to people that work there just a couple of | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
weeks ago, there was a huge sense of relief that sanity has been | :16:14. | :16:16. | |
restored, that they weren't allowed to speak to the tea lady or the guy | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
that's worked for 50 years in the tunnel. Complete madness. Bonkers | :16:21. | :16:28. | |
stuff. The thing with football generally is if you are in the team | :16:29. | :16:33. | |
you like the manager. Under Paolo Di Canio, even the ones in the team | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
didn't like the manager. We've had heard so much this week about Sir | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
Alex Ferguson, the one thing that's come out of his book is he wanted to | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
be in control. Di Canio has taken that too far. If you are taking | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
saying that you can't speak to the tea lady, that's too far. And the | :16:53. | :16:59. | |
bunk beds. Who would share a bunk bed with Lawro? That's a brilliant | :17:00. | :17:07. | |
question. I used to share a room. But occasionally at Anfield Ronnie | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
Moran would come in and say, who wants a divorced in if you weren't | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
happy with your roommate, but those days are gone now. Relief around the | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
Stadium of Light. There was plenty of relief yesterday at Old Trafford. | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
David, a fantastic comeback in the final quarter hour of that game. | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
Yes, and it was a really good victory. Players kept working right | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
to the end. After the game in midweek it was great she showed the | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
energy in the final 15 or 20 minutes. Were you worried it wasn't | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
going to come? Yes, when we were 2-1 down, we had a few opportunities, we | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
had goalkeepers who Ed needed to make a few good saves, but we end | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
it, the way we kept pressing to try and score. I've been here three | :17:58. | :18:04. | |
years in this club, and the spirit, the first moment I came here, the | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
games are difficult and we find until the 90 minutes. We scored our | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
third one. We won three points. The most important thing that we are | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
trying to win the home games, not because in the last result they were | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
very bad and thankfully we had six points, three in the Champions | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
League and three in the Premier League. Do you think this might be | :18:29. | :18:31. | |
the launch pad for more comfortable victories? I really hope, so but you | :18:32. | :18:35. | |
never know. And your relationship with the manager, is that fine | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
despite what one or two people have been writing? Don't understand that. | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
It is more than fine. I'm really happy with the manager and stuff. | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
Steve has got in touch with us and section how much work needs doing at | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
Manchester United? Sit about improving the player there is or | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
buying in? When you win the Premiership you have to seriously | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
improve and strengthen your team, something that moich City -- | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
Manchester City failed to do. Manchester United strengthened with | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
Robin van Persie. It is all about the players. Have Manchester United | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
been stronger because Marouane Fellaini has been signed? No, they | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
should have signed three or four outstanding players. If you walk | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
into the dressing room and no-one's coming in to replace you, it is | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
great. You have to be under pressure for your place. I think what we are | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
seeing was inevitable. We only now really appreciate, I think we always | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
did appreciate, but we can see the value of Alex Ferguson now. It was | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
always going to be a struggle. A new chief executive, a new manager. The | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
one for more, it was an interesting interview that van Persie gave, | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
there he still doesn't look happy, despite what he's saying. There was | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
an interesting line in Fergie's book, that Fergie had to apologise | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
personally to van Persie, because when van Persie signed a year ago I | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
think Fergie said he was going to be there for a few years. I just hope | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
for Moyes's sake that van Persie isn't annoyed, sulking in anyway, | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
because the manager's changed. Did operations shut down a little bit at | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
Manchester United last May? There was all these tributes to Sir Alex | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
Ferguson, the feeling of the end of an era. Normally Manchester United, | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
so effective at getting early signings in the summer, in June, | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
none of this last gasp week of the transfer window stuff. With Sir Alex | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
Ferguson not plan ing ahead were Mr People in the background making | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
these decisions? As soon as Moyes came in we thought Leighton Banes | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
and Marouane Fellaini would go. Did they take their eye off the ball? I | :20:53. | :20:57. | |
think losing David Gill was a big thing. If they could have kept him | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
another year... Sir Alex Ferguson said that was his worry when him and | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
David Gill met. He said he was going and David Gill said he was going to | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
go. That was a concern. If you look at the Sunday times this morning, | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
they've run a story saying that Manchester United are keeping tabs | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
on ?85 million Gareth Bale. He didn't have the best of games | :21:20. | :21:27. | |
yesterday. Within that article, the new chief executive at Manchester | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
United has defend Manchester United's transfer policy and says it | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
would have been a mistake to foist signings from anyone else on an | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
incoming manager. I have got a lot of sympathy for Ed Woodward here. | :21:41. | :21:48. | |
He's come in, Alex Ferguson might have had an idea were he to continue | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
as to which players they were going to go for. They have had to wait for | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
Moyes to come in. He started on July 1st. He's obviously been busy while | :21:58. | :22:02. | |
not officially starting. But you've got to give him a chance to look at | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
the squad and decide. I think it meant they came late to their | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
transfer business. They have to accept that it is going to be a | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
difficult first season. You couldn't say that Gareth bail would be forced | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
on them. Which team in the world would not take Gareth Bale? I think | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
he's coming back. Do you? I do. I think it is going to be really | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
difficult for him in Madrid, in the same team as Ronaldo. Keep your | :22:31. | :22:37. | |
texts and tweets coming in: in one of the other games yesterday, | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
Norwich against Cardiff, the controversial moment came from le ro | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
fer, who rather than -- Leroy fer, who rather than passing the ball he | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
put into it the bottom corner of the Cardiff net. This is what he said | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
after the game. Tell news your own words what was happening at the end? | :22:58. | :23:04. | |
Ricky, he threw the ball to me and I hit it back into the net. But mean | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
to pass it to the goalkeeper or were you heading for goal? I wanted a | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
goal. The referee didn't below his whistle, so it didn't count. So but | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
think you had scored the winning goal? I thought so, yes. What do you | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
make of Cardiff's reaction and that the goal wasn't allowed to stand? | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
They were mad, because the goalkeeper threw the ball out. | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
That's the part of the game. In Holland if you do, that you can play | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
on. I wanted to win the game but we didn't. But you understood the | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
reaction of the Cardiff players? Yeah, I understood, so, yeah. It is | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
their opinion of the game, and they know that we want to win the game, | :23:48. | :23:53. | |
but yeah, it didn't come. Now you've been educated in the English way of | :23:54. | :23:57. | |
doing things, next time it happens will you pass it back to the | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
goalkeeper or go for goal again? I don't know. 1-0 up, I will give it | :24:02. | :24:10. | |
back to the gel keeper, but 0-0 I will try to score again. An honest | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
interview. I can appreciate, I know nothing about cricket but that big | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
incident the summer whether the guy should have walked, it reminds me of | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
that. All the pressure on the players, the team talks, the 100% | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
all the time. Your instinct is to try to bend every law to the point | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
of breaking. He will have seen this as not doing any harm, he plays on. | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
He isn't making it up. On the Continent they have a different | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
attitude to us on that. You admire his honesty and sportsmanship. But | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
he didn't hit the ball with any great van om. It almost looked like | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
a back pass. A very accurate pass into the bottom of the court. But | :24:58. | :25:05. | |
the age old argument, it comes down to confusion about putting the ball | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
out depending on whether someone is injured. What's the rule nowadays? | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
What is the rule nowadays? I think it is generally accepted is you give | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
the ball back to the opposition. If we are going to go down that road, | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
good luck. Let's talk about where you were in more detail yesterday, | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
and Southampton. Everybody is praising hem to the hilt, not just | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
for the way they are playing but their work rate. Martin Jol said | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
yesterday how aggressive they were, as a compliment. The amount of times | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
Fulham had to struggle just to get the ball to the halfway line. Adam | :25:44. | :25:53. | |
Lallana whipped the ball off their toes. Fulham have Sidwell and | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
Parkary. They are seasoned is Premier League players, they are no | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
mugs, and yet they had difficulty passing it down the field. If | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
someone likes Adam Lallana has injury that's where their | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
limitations will be exposed. If they can play like they did yesterday | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
there is no reason they won't stay up there. They have got attacking | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
players and they've started to build from the back with the players | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
they've signed. Southampton a handful. Borough is in gold. They've | :26:27. | :26:37. | |
got Wanyana midfield and Lallana... That's the spine. For all of the | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
praise we are giving them and the kids they've brought through, as | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
former striker Steve Claridge reminds me, they've spent over ?60 | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
million on this squad. They have but if they've spent it well, they | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
deserve praise. This is the modern Premier League. It is part of what | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
makes this season so fascinating, that it is so unpredictable and a | :27:02. | :27:08. | |
club like Southampton is rising. Core taizy. There is real ambition | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
there buts being done in a very astute way. It's not all about the | :27:13. | :27:18. | |
money. Look at how much Sunderland have spend in the last few season. | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
The academy, the left-back Luke Shaw is a player very much of the Gareth | :27:25. | :27:31. | |
Bale mode. He is a left-back who plays like a left wink and he is | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
still a kid, only a teenageary. The academy has been producing players | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
for a while and you would hope for Southampton that think won't keep | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
getting poached away. If we are looking at Southampton as a model of | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
a club going into the Premier League and building it does bring us to | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
Crystal Palace. All sorts of stuff in the Sunday Mirror. The headline | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
is I'm hurting and my pride has been battered but I'll be back better and | :28:01. | :28:05. | |
stronger. He talks as well about over the last four years hardly | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
having a break from the game. She particularly critical about their | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
policy in the summer, and that it was chaotic how they brought players | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
in. It's a really interesting column. He uses the word, "Sacked". | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
He said he offered his resignation after the Fulham game but it seems | :28:27. | :28:33. | |
like he changed his mind overnight but was met by the desire from his | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
boss to go anyway. He talks about the fact that the owners were just | :28:39. | :28:44. | |
wanting to, I think he says anyone and everyone. They came up via the | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
play-offs, so there is no pre-planning. It has to be a scatter | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
gun approach. The two promoted teams are out buying players for the | :28:56. | :28:58. | |
Premier League. They didn't know Crystal Palace until the day that | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
they actually qualified to get into the Premier League. All of a sudden | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
you are thinking, you missed the boat by a million miles. You are | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
damned if you do and damned if you don't. We are saying Crystal Palace | :29:11. | :29:15. | |
bought too many players and Manchester United haven't but the | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
enough. I would argue against that. I think with Crystal Palace, it is | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
like history written by the winners. They've gone out, we'll buy ten | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
players, if six of them are good, it will be a success. He section | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
looking back, because Steve Parish, his phone is going to voicemail. He | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
became so obsessed with bringing in players that would help us cope with | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
life in the top flight that he wanted to buy anyone and everyone. | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
Because wen't didn't have time to put a proper plan of action in | :29:48. | :29:53. | |
place, we became des programme. They were struggling towards the end of | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
the season, so it wasn't a case of they were always going to be in the | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
play-offs. It may have been, you know worckts we need one eye in case | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
we get into the praoephrmingts and they start without three of the best | :30:07. | :30:13. | |
players last season. Zaha, he goes to Manchester United, and another's | :30:14. | :30:17. | |
been injured. It is difficult enough, like Cardiff, you can plan | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
and you know you are coming one the Premiership, but that's hard. To do | :30:24. | :30:26. | |
it like Crystal Palace is impossible. Who and their agent is | :30:27. | :30:37. | |
going to sign for Crystal Palace if they can go to any team in the | :30:38. | :30:45. | |
middle of the table? Steve Parrish has talked about maybe the potential | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
of teaming up a young manager, a young coach, with an experienced | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
want to have that director of football. If you read between the | :30:54. | :31:01. | |
lines, and this is a complete guess, is that in some way insinuating that | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
Neil Warnock may return to the club in an experienced role with a | :31:06. | :31:12. | |
younger coach? It is possible. I think what Palace need now is Neil | :31:13. | :31:15. | |
Warnock autonomy clueless as their manager. -- Tony Pulis. | :31:16. | :31:29. | |
Warnock autonomy clueless as their much as he wanted to leave. | :31:30. | :31:37. | |
Warnock autonomy clueless as their club staying there, get a top | :31:38. | :31:37. | |
manager in. I think club staying there, get a top | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
no-brainer. Just go and get him. We all love talking to Ian Holloway. | :31:45. | :31:51. | |
no-brainer. Just go and get him. We Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too | :31:52. | :31:51. | |
honest for his own good? Can Ian Holloway sometimes be too | :31:52. | :31:59. | |
people say so. You are what you are. Just be normal. We | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
people say so. You are what you are. Well, when I say normal! We like him | :32:04. | :32:03. | |
because he is what he Well, when I say normal! We like him | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
know if something else has happened. I find it | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
know if something else has happened. just want to walk out as easy as | :32:13. | :32:15. | |
that. Steve Parrish's phone is still going to voice mail. Maybe he is | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
appointing the new Crystal Palace manager as we speak. Let's return to | :32:21. | :32:25. | |
the big derby in the north-east. Sunderland make four changes from | :32:26. | :32:36. | |
that defeat at Swansea. Josey Alta Doerr is among those who comes in. | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
-- Josey Altidore. It looks as though Sunderland have | :32:41. | :32:57. | |
looked at what Newcastle have at the back and thought they have a real | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
chance of beating them. They are playing to upfront. You got the | :33:02. | :33:04. | |
impression from Gus Poyet during the week that they will go for it this | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
afternoon. Even what a passionate guy and a passionate manager years, | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
you would expect him to be like that? Gus Poyet definitely smiled at | :33:13. | :33:20. | |
the guy on the door on his way into the ground. Di Canio would not have | :33:21. | :33:28. | |
done that. One of the other games today is Spurs against Hull. Spurs | :33:29. | :33:34. | |
have a director of football. They brought in several players during | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
the summer. One of the most Christian Eriksson. | :33:38. | :33:45. | |
Everybody is fit. We have a really strong team. He has to make a | :33:46. | :33:52. | |
decision about who is going to play and who is not. How realistic is it | :33:53. | :33:57. | |
that is Spurs team can challenge for the Premier League title? Yet, I | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
think it is realistic. We are fifth. We want to go into the top four. We | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
have the team to try to become number one. Everybody would be | :34:11. | :34:13. | |
settled -- satisfied with Champions League for next season. Is top four | :34:14. | :34:22. | |
all they should aim for? No, I think they should aim for the top. If they | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
fall a little bit short, it is not a problem. I don't think they can win | :34:27. | :34:33. | |
it. One viewer asks why they are not realistic title contenders? The | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
reason is I don't think Andre Villas-Boas knows his best team yet. | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
There is still an Achilles heel with Tottenham. I also think Manchester | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
City and Chelsea are better. I feel with Tottenham, how can you possibly | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
lose at home to West Ham by 3-0? That would seriously worry me. They | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
have two players in every single position. It is a mentality thing | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
with Tottenham. I think Christian Eriksson is the guy that Manchester | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
United could have signed -- should have signed. They will aspire to the | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
league title but it is too much, too soon for a squad recently assembled. | :35:15. | :35:20. | |
Give them 12 months, then you will have a title contender. I think they | :35:21. | :35:27. | |
have got a chance. I think AVB is the real deal. For all his problems | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
at Chelsea. I don't think that was his fault. I think that was just a | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
dressing and that could not get their heads around one of | :35:36. | :35:38. | |
Mourinho's the tenants suddenly being their manager. I think he has | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
been very astute. He has bought well. He was seriously let down at | :35:44. | :35:53. | |
Chelsea. It was a project. We used to laugh at him. But all of a sudden | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
the project was taken away from him. He is a good template for the likes | :35:58. | :36:05. | |
of Tony Pulis. He can bounce back. That is the measure of the man, the | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
way he has bounced back. That tells me he is top class. He has also been | :36:10. | :36:17. | |
given the support to bounce back. I mentioned director of football. All | :36:18. | :36:24. | |
the tools out there for him to get it right. Yes. One of his biggest | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
problems now is going to be players knocking on his door wondering why | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
they are not on the team. That is something else he has got to deal | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
with. That is the best problem a football manager can never have. | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
What was the difference between Hull in preseason and Crystal Palace as | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
regards transfers? Steve Bruce brought in a few players in as well, | :36:51. | :36:57. | |
some very late. I have seen quite a bit of Hull this season. Interesting | :36:58. | :37:02. | |
today, playing against Tottenham, Tom Huddleston will be fired up. | :37:03. | :37:11. | |
Jake Livermore cannot play. For a 36 games in the season, the likes of | :37:12. | :37:18. | |
Lukaku is going to be banging goals against Chelsea's ponds. When I have | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
seen Hull, Huddleston has been regenerated. It was the right time | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
to leave Spurs. He needed a break. Playing alongside Jake Livermore has | :37:30. | :37:37. | |
made him better. Steve Bruce has been in this position before. Wigan, | :37:38. | :37:42. | |
Birmingham. He knows. He has used the system extremely well. Andy | :37:43. | :37:46. | |
strikes me as a really good man manager. The vote has closed. Who | :37:47. | :37:52. | |
has the best strike partnership? Liverpool or Manchester United? Do | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
you worry about West Ham this season from what you have seen so far? I | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
think, we're talking managers, Sam Allardyce will keep them out of | :38:05. | :38:10. | |
trouble. Certainly by the end of the season. They need Andy Carroll back. | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
I went over to Antwerp last week to see him. He is on the mend. He will | :38:15. | :38:20. | |
be back by the start of December. It is an unusual injury. It is an | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
injury that is quite common in ballet. The tenants that connect his | :38:24. | :38:32. | |
heels... It is a really nasty injury, which is why he is seeing a | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
specialist over there. He will be back and that will give them a lift. | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
When he is in Antwerp, easy out there on his own, at the club | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
supporting him? They sent the medical staff out there. The West | :38:49. | :38:53. | |
Ham physio was there. He is literally in a hotel. Would you send | :38:54. | :38:59. | |
Andy Carroll out there on his own? ! Isn't that what you mean? I was | :39:00. | :39:05. | |
meaning it from a sympathetic viewpoint. You have got a serious | :39:06. | :39:09. | |
injury, you are getting treatment abroad. I would imagine it is not | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
particularly nice. He's in there all day long. It is an amazing place. | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
There is a guy who is a Tour de France rider. There is a | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
professional basketball player. Vincent Kompany's brother was in | :39:25. | :39:30. | |
there that day. There is a family injury issue, obviously! He is in a | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
good place. Interesting he has gone to Belgium. Is there anything they | :39:37. | :39:43. | |
cannot do? Let's go back to Stamford Bridge. Chelsea against Manchester | :39:44. | :39:51. | |
City. Pat Nevin is there. Where is this going to be won and lost? There | :39:52. | :39:58. | |
could be a number of players. I should apologise now for my sore | :39:59. | :40:02. | |
throat. I have been given a little bit of a drink by Chelsea to keep me | :40:03. | :40:08. | |
going. Looking at both teams during the week, particularly Manchester | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
City, the centre back partnership is important. For me, it didn't work in | :40:12. | :40:20. | |
midweek. I don't know what he is going to go for. Vincent Kompany is | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
not available. I think Jose Mourinho will see that as a definite | :40:27. | :40:31. | |
weakness. Chelsea want to play as a break inside. They have got players | :40:32. | :40:41. | |
who can break from midfield. I suspect Manchester may sit back and | :40:42. | :40:44. | |
little bit, and that will not suit Chelsea. As far as Chelsea are | :40:45. | :40:46. | |
concerned, the front four, how would you set that up this afternoon? I | :40:47. | :40:53. | |
think the manager loves the fact he gets a lot of movement and energy | :40:54. | :41:02. | |
out of Sherlock. He is the first one out there. They have got an amazing | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
amount of legs in that area. I say this advisedly, the sitting | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
midfielders are not sitting midfielders. What they are is deep | :41:14. | :41:18. | |
lying midfielders. If it is Ramires and Lampard, everybody knows they | :41:19. | :41:20. | |
are not holding players. They will break with amazing pace. It has | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
worked very well since maybe after the first couple of the games of the | :41:26. | :41:29. | |
season. That is something that Manchester City will be concerned | :41:30. | :41:33. | |
about. Because they are concerned about that, I don't think they will | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
be quite as open as they have been. Does he go with more power in there | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
with Milner instead of going with Jesus Navas? I hope David Silva | :41:42. | :41:50. | |
plays. He is one of my favourite players. I think Milner will maybe | :41:51. | :41:59. | |
get the shirt though. It may be a slow game at the start. If somebody | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
scores early, it opens up. You're basically saying that Mourinho will | :42:04. | :42:13. | |
take legs over trickery? Yes, he will, unless he has got a team that | :42:14. | :42:17. | |
he knows he has to break down. Then you might get the likes of other | :42:18. | :42:27. | |
players in the game. Certainly those lakes and the pace of breaking is | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
the one he goes to. Trying to second-guess Jose Mourinho... Last | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
week against Cardiff there was a four-minute period which was the | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
best four minutes of tactics I have seen in about a decade. He went to a | :42:43. | :42:51. | |
three, two. -- three, two, three, two. Game won. Well done. Fantastic | :42:52. | :42:58. | |
tactics. We will let you go off and do that | :42:59. | :43:05. | |
voice over for a blockbuster film! We have been asking you to vote on | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
your best strike partnership. Over 70%, 72%, went for the Liverpool | :43:11. | :43:18. | |
strike partnership. It is not often that Suarez is positive on social | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
media. Does that surprise you? In current form, absolutely not. During | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
the season, I suspect it will go the other way. If you take the last two | :43:28. | :43:33. | |
years and expect to see over the next two years, you may go for | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
Rooney and van Persie. But right here, right now, I would go for the | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
Liverpool player. We are out of time. Mark will be with me for Match | :43:42. | :43:49. | |
of the Day later. You can listen to Chelsea against Manchester City on | :43:50. | :43:52. | |
Five Live from four o'clock. Coming up, the FA Cup draw. The first | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
round. See you next week. Buy. -- goodbye. | :44:01. | :44:01. |