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Hello and welcome to

Match Of The Day 2 Extra on BBC Two,

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5Live, the BBC Sport website

and app, as well as the iPlayer.

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With me, former Newcastle

and Ireland goalkeeper Shay Given,

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former Everton and Manchester City

defender Joleon Lescott,

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and the Mirror's football

writer John Cross.

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Get in touch using the hashtag

#bbcfootball on social media

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or you can text us on 85058.

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Coming up over the next 45

minutes...

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Was that as calm a three points

as Jose Mourinho suggests?

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Manchester United beat Spurs

in the big game of the weekend.

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West Ham got a lesson in how not

to hold out for a win,

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as Slaven Bilic's side concede

in the final minute to only draw

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with Crystal Palace.

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And we're at the day's two

Premier League games

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as Brighton face Southampton,

and Claude Puel begins his Leicester

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career at home to Everton.

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We will keep you across Birmingham

against Aston Villa, which is

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goalless after 15 minutes.

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The newspaper headlines

are dominated by England

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under-17's World Cup triumph.

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The Sunday Times labels them

"Kings of the World".

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The Observer has Jose Mourinho

telling his critics to pipe down

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after the win over Tottenham.

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And the Sunday Mirror

headlines "Freebie Sanchez",

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saying Manchester City want to sign

Alexis Sanchez for free

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in the summer, and won't go

back Arsenal in January.

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We're going to start with those

events in Kolkata and England's

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under-17s winning the World Cup.

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They beat Spain 5-2 to lift

the trophy, having been 2-0 down.

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Phil Foden of Manchester City

scored two of the goals.

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And remember, victory over Spain

in the final followed beating

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Brazil in the semi-finals.

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The win means England are now

world champions at both

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under-17 and under-20 level,

European champions at under-19

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level, and finalists in the European

under-21 championship.

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The question now is how

many of these players will we see

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playing Premier League football

in the next few years.

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Shay given, given the record, they

have to win something at senior

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level in the next six or seven

years?

As an Irish man it is hard

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for me today that it is fantastic

for England!

That is why I came to

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first!

Congratulations to them, they

will be buzzing this morning,

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especially the context of the final,

two goals down, it is a learning

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curve and all this, but in the

second half they came out, scored

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just before half-time, started the

second half flying, what a fantastic

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result. But, as you say, they have

won three major tournaments at under

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age level this summer alone and now

the next crop of fantastic young

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English players coming through.

Before we look at the bigger picture

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we can expand on that because we

were sailing off air they looked

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like they were genuinely enjoying it

yesterday, even as they were

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striving to get back in the game,

there was never any panic, they just

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kept playing their game and they

seemed very relaxed, very happy, I

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suppose?

They looked like they had

been told to go out and express

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themselves, and that is exactly what

they did. 2-0 down, not fazed, they

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dominated with the goal before

half-time, they thoroughly deserved

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to win, even at 3-2, 4-2, they kept

pushing forward, Spain looked more

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tired, the confidence started to

show, they were expressing

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themselves.

People said to me that

the -- Steve Cooper said to me, the

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England under-17 manager, we don't

think about failure, as in what is

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happening with the senior teams over

many years, we embrace the fact that

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we have the chance to win something,

and that has always been the

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mentality?

Absolutely, and the FA

can point to St George's Park and

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the circumstance and situated around

that, and developing players. You

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are reaping the benefits of that,

the under 20s, Triumph for them, I

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think there is a certain expectation

in the under-17s, that this

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generation is bleeding through and

can hopefully make it. It is

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interesting, the Chelsea, Man City

dominating through the numbers of

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it, a number of the squad.

Seven of

the starting XI yesterday were

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Chelsea or Manchester City.

If you

contrast that to Spain, it is eight

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between Barcelona and Real Madrid,

so you are seeing similar numbers

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but how many can actually get

through to the seniors? That is a

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challenge but also what is the

pathway into the seniors, the club

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team?

The point there with Chelsea

and city is plaudits to both clubs,

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because they have developed those

kids into what they are at the

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moment.

They have come through,

haven't they?

So then they have got

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to go again.

Comparing them to the

Spain setup, they are teams that

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play in the lower leagues, that

helps, playing against people at a

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younger age, that helps develop

them, that is something that maybe

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as a nation we need to look at, how

to develop the kids.

The next

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question, can they bring that to

senior level? People asked, why

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can't the senior England team play

like the under age teens, but it is

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the freedom, the confidence, yes,

they were 2-0 down, but they say,

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keep playing, keep attacking. If

England were 2-0 down in a major

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tournament, the senior team, it

would be like, just try to keep it

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at two, lad! It is quite refreshing

that the younger lads say, we are

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going to get back into this, and the

next question is whether they can

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bring this into international

football and club football as well.

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Phil Foden is probably the wrong

example because Pep Guardiola has

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used him in pre-season, we will hear

from him in a moment, said that is

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maybe the wrong example but if you

were at another club and one of

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those kids had done what they did in

the under-17s yesterday, how much,

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as a senior pro, would you be in the

year of your club manager saying, at

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least get him involved in training?

It depends if he is playing in your

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position! You would always try and

help them, you can see with Phil

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Foden that they respect and rate him

highly. I'm sure all the players

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there.

But will he get a regular

start at Man City with the players

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and team they have?

I think he

trains with them pretty much every

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day, so that is obviously the first

step, then it goes too, are you

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performing everyday? It is just

progression because they are still

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young kids, they will still be

inconsistency of the natural

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progression is, can they perform,

are they playing well in training

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every day?

Let's hear from Pep

Guardiola, this is what he said

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after Man City's win yesterday on

Phil Foden.

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He's an English player, he loves

Manchester City. We will try to do

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everything to help them.

Unfortunately he played in a

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competition where the competition is

not... He deserves to play to grow

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but of course he is our player, you

will be a player for the next years,

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I'm sure of that, so I'm happy for

England, of course, for him, it is

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important for English football,

especially the young players like

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Phil, 17, 19, 21, they can achieve

finals, semifinals, because that guy

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will grow.

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It is interesting he talks about the

different levels of competitiveness.

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We had this discussion on the sofa

last week in relation to Harry

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Winks, Pochettino kept Harry Winks

at birth because he felt he would

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benefit more from his coaching and

being with the first-team there and

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not getting bad habits from maybe

going out on loan and being coached

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differently. It is a difficult

decision for managers to make?

It is

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a fine balancing act and I think

there is a tendency to be critical

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of clubs like Man City and Chelsea

which is totally missing the point,

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because the tendency is to criticise

them because they are not making the

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first team. Actually, look at it in

a positive way that they are

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producing these kids and producing

brilliantly technical talented kids,

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and then it is maybe the failings, I

guess, not so much of the first-team

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but the whole system at moment,

Premier League team for me is a

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waste of time...

The under 23 the?

Complete waste of time. I think we

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miss the old reserve team setup when

basically...

When old pros played...

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If you did not play on a Saturday

you played a reserve game in the

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week. No disrespect to the under 23

's lead, you have played against the

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same players for the previous three

or four years, under 19 is, U21, you

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play against the same players and I

think the progression then is being

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in the League Cup, I'm not sure of

the name of it...

League Cup will

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do!

It is a competition that it

means more to the lads.

I don't

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know, it is hard to say what to do,

Guardiola made the point that it is

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not being carried away, it is only

the under-17s, but it is refreshing,

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the Manchester Scouts are worldwide,

Brandywell, but this guy is a local

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guy.

He is a true blue.

It would be

great if he could be a regular in

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the first-team, if they could not

send him out on road and bring him

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into the first-team and blossom in

the first team in the Premier

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League, that would be fantastic.

Clare says, under-17 players play

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Premier League in a few years,

realistically probably five. Things

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have to change. Interestingly the

England under-17s ten years ago

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reached the quarterfinals of the

World Cup, four of that squad are

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playing Premier League football,

Danny Welbeck, Danny Rose, Victor

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Moses and Dan Gosling.

Marcus says the under-17s should

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broaden their horizons, be willing

to play in the other big leagues.

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The Premier League is not the be all

and end all and German clubs are

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certainly skipping around, we have

already seen Sancho go.

Absolutely,

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he is a brilliant talent and

obviously just felt that moving to

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Dortmund was a better option than

staying at City.

He is getting game

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time now. No disrespect, I don't

think he would have made his debut

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at City this year, where he has

obviously made his debut for

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Dortmund.

Talking about the old

reserve league, be honest here, at

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the end of your career, if you had

not played on Saturday, would you

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have happily turned out on a

Tuesday...

Good question!

You are

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next! As a senior pro?

Yes, because

it would have been expense, I spoke

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to Man City about doing that with

them now because you learn more, if

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we are both 17-year-olds, I make a

mistake, you don't know what I

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should have done. Playing with those

players and against those players, I

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can learn and help teach them, that

is the kind of thing, when I was a

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young player, playing against

players, disappointed not to be

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playing obviously, but it was

helping me out.

Do you think you

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were in a minority, that you would

be in a minority?

Possibly. I can't

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imagine every player looking forward

to a reserve game. And I understand

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that, but that is the way it goes.

Your love for the game is

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everything, it is a game of

football.

Would you? When you were

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at Stoke, would you have gone and

played in a reserve team game to

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help two 18-year-olds centre halves?

I have done in the past, to help

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younger players, but it is different

for gold keepers because players

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need to keep their match fitness,

but we just stand there with our

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hands in the air! It is difficult to

coach and work on that in training,

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but, I don't know, coming back to

what John says, I think the setup of

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the under 23 thing doesn't seem to

work. I don't know why they had to

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revolutionise it or change it, it

was fine beforehand. The bigger

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picture is the Premier League and

the FA have a certain amount of

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English players within the 25 man

squad, I don't know how strong it

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can be to bring that into the

Premier League because there are so

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many foreign players coming in and

people say it is a foreign league,

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the English Premier League.

Tottenham do send players out on

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loan simply to get football, which

is supposed to be the replication of

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the old reserve league. If you drop

down the championship, League 1,

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that is what they are trying to do.

It is difficult with Harry Winks, he

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is an outstanding talent who is a

more technical player, he would

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probably get kicked all over the

place in the championship.

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Pochettino is brilliant for bringing

kids through, obviously feels that

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Harry Winks' needs are different.

We

will go to Saint Andrews shortly to

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bring an update on the Birmingham

derby, goalless at the moment. Text

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us or use the hashtag if you wish to

get in touch.

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So now to the big Premier League

stories, and we'll

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start at Old Trafford.

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It ended with Jose

Mourinho shushing us.

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He said it was to show

everyone should be calm.

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But what might have been another

inquest into more points dropped

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ended with a fifth straight home

league win without conceding a goal,

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against a Harry Kane-less Tottenham.

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We can hear from both managers.

Both

teams tried to win but I think both

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teams feared the opponent because it

could hurt at any moment. So I think

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a game with a motion, with

everything, probably one goal in the

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first half would make even a better

game.

The team is competing in a

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very good way. Of course Harry Kane

is one of the best strikers in the

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world, that we cannot hide, but I

think the team is ready to fight,

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last season we had Harry Kane, the

team can beat very good, but of

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course you are going to miss your

best striker.

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Jose Marini, who we heard from

first. He said it is the 90 minutes

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on the pitch. All the noise around

football doesn't matter. Some people

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speak too much, he said. Calm down,

relax, don't speak too much, don't

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be so nervous, don't be so excited.

Just stay calm.

People having a go,

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especially with the Liverpool game a

couple of weeks ago. Manchester

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United, one of the biggest clubs in

the world. One of the favourites for

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the title, you go to Anfield and you

could argue Liverpool's week as

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point is their defence. Why not go

and have a go and try and score more

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goals. We look at the trophies he

has one, what he's done in his

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career, he is an experienced

manager. The balance of being a

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Manchester United manager and being

a manager somewhere else is a tricky

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one.

Did you say the pens being

sharpened in anticipation of a

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goalless straw with ten minutes to

go, John Cross?

Yes, I thought it

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was a disappointment, we had built

it up as the game of the weekend.

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What Jose Mourinho is referring to

is having his ego pricked a bit

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because of what praise Porcher Tino

is getting at the moment.

He hasn't

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said this, but, would it be fair to

say there would be an inconsistency

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with Manchester United goalless at

Liverpool and the Manchester United

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getting the criticism over that game

and then goalless at Spurs and

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getting the criticism for that as

well?

The inconsistency is, you are

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Manchester United. Manchester

United, the expectation has been to

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go away to places, not only just to

win but do it with style. Yesterday

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was...

They are not.

The expectation

doesn't change.

I am with Jose

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Mourinho on this little bit, they

got him because they to win. Pep

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Guardiola and Barcelona, you want to

get back to winning ways and that is

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more important to Manchester United

than playing attractive football.

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Let's get back to winning ways and

when we are winning regular, then

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you can say you want to win with a

bit of style. That is what he's

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doing at the moment. Last year they

won three cup competitions.

I am not

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trying to get you to alienate your

fans, but as a defender, could you

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have seen yourself improving under

him, would you like to have played

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under him?

He has managed the top

teams in the world. If you're

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working with Jose Mourinho...

Do his

defenders improve under him?

I think

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his defensive record is second to

none but they don't play the same

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way, they don't aim to score three

or four goals every game. Like the

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comparison is the Manchester City

and Manchester United is hard at the

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moment for Jose Mourinho Yobe to win

that way of playing, they are not

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going to do that, they don't try and

played the same kind of football.

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Are you surprised Spurs didn't play

Llorente yesterday?

Yes. Obviously

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Kane wasn't available. My argument,

why didn't he start with Llorente

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yesterday? If he is a like-for-like

replacement, I understand Old

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Trafford is a difficult place to go,

but why when you go there, don't you

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play with Llorente.

He has played

for the biggest teams in Europe so

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he's used to that occasion, he is a

Spanish international, no reason for

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him not to play.

Do you think Gareth

Southgate will be watching?

Ashley

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Young, his level of performance in

recent times, he has been rewarded

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with the captain's armband on

occasion. He has been outstanding.

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He is combative. He went for a

yesterday, had a real tear up with

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Dele Alli. Knees so consistent and

has been around the England setup

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and has been an England regular. If

he doesn't get the call on Thursday,

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he must be questioning is it Gareth

Southgate who has something against

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me.

He does deserve the England

recall. He does deserve it but I

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don't think he is going to get it.

James Milner, playing outstandingly

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for Liverpool at left-back and never

got look that. And also Delph. If

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you are playing for the big clubs,

you should be in the England squad.

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The first Premier League football

of the day is on the south coast.

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Brighton are at home to Southampton,

and Steve Wilson is at the Amex

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for tonight's Match Of The Day 2.

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Good afternoon. We are here for

Brighton & Hove Albion against

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Southampton. Steve Sidwell is

injured at the moment, but you must

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be pleased with the way this season

has started, because teams sometimes

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need to adjust to the Premier League

but Brighton have them that quickly?

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100%. The majority of the squad, it

is a group of players who

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individually have not performed in

the Premier League, so it is all new

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to them and we have hit the ground

running. We have shown in our games

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so far we have been involved and we

have been involved in the match

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right to the death, near enough so

that is a positive sign. We have

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slowly got there and picked up

points away from home, which is key.

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Home form will be the one where

we'll be looking to pick up most of

0:22:110:22:15

points, obviously.

Premier League

Knauss, you have bundles of that

0:22:150:22:20

over the course of your career, but

you were a bright player as a

0:22:200:22:24

teenager on loan and you are coming

back to a club that is

0:22:240:22:32

unrecognisable?

Yes, chalk and

cheese from when I was here as a

0:22:320:22:39

19-year-old. Now this fantastic

facility, the training ground is

0:22:390:22:44

worthy of Premiership status. It is

geared up for Premier League

0:22:440:22:48

football, the infrastructure is

there, now it is maintaining it and

0:22:480:22:52

that will be the hard part, but we

are giving it a good go at the

0:22:520:22:57

moment.

The three teams that a up

bar eighth, 11 and 12 in the table.

0:22:570:23:01

Sometimes by the time a newly

promoted team get themselves sorted

0:23:010:23:05

out in the Premier League, the gap

is too big to make up and they never

0:23:050:23:10

recover. But all three teams who

came up have started well. Do you

0:23:100:23:14

think the gap is not as big as

people suggest or is it good

0:23:140:23:18

management and spending power?

It is

continued from last season, a

0:23:180:23:24

winning mentality. It is a big step

up to the Premier League but the

0:23:240:23:27

winning mentality is that to play

the football we were playing last

0:23:270:23:31

year in the championship. You look

at this year, the Premier League,

0:23:310:23:35

there is a lot of teams not playing

to their standards and be have shown

0:23:350:23:40

that this year and hence, look at

the table and wider teams who have

0:23:400:23:45

come up are doing so well and where

they stand.

You're back injury, when

0:23:450:23:49

can we see you in action?

It is hard

to put a time frame, it is nerve

0:23:490:23:57

damage so you have to take it one

step at a time. It is harder for me

0:23:570:24:01

because I want to rush, but it is

building blocks and slowly, surely

0:24:010:24:07

does it.

Brighton versus

Southampton, watch the highlights on

0:24:070:24:10

Match Of The Day 2 this evening.

0:24:100:24:14

Thank you to Steve and Steve.

0:24:140:24:15

So let's get the team news for this

game, from Alistair Bruce-Ball.

0:24:150:24:20

All positive for Brighton at the

moment. Their manager has named an

0:24:200:24:27

unchanged team after the 3-0 win at

West Ham. So the record signing

0:24:270:24:32

starts again on the left. Glenn

Murray through the middle. A few

0:24:320:24:35

changes for Southampton. Sofyan

Amrabat fell, the wonder goal

0:24:350:24:41

against West Brom gets his second

Premier League start of the season.

0:24:410:24:46

So running at over to your manager,

thumping your chest and shouting me,

0:24:460:24:52

pick me, it works. It isn't all

Dutch centre-back pairing. A big

0:24:520:25:00

loss for Southampton is Mario

Lemina, out injured.

James

0:25:000:25:04

Ward-Prowse replaces him in the

midfield. Thank you. Plenty of

0:25:040:25:10

updates on five live sport. Fraser

Forster has had an uncomfortable

0:25:100:25:14

start, has been getting some

criticism. How difficult is it when

0:25:140:25:20

you are in an isolated position as a

goalkeeper, Shay Given?

It is a

0:25:200:25:26

confidence thing. He had a difficult

start, you look and think could he

0:25:260:25:32

have done better? It is the position

where nobody can help you out but

0:25:320:25:36

yourself. I know him very well from

my Newcastle days and he works as

0:25:360:25:41

hard as any professional footballer

I have come across. At this stage in

0:25:410:25:48

his career, it is all about what is

going on between his ears. If he

0:25:480:25:53

clears his mind, stays in the

present and gets mentally tough, he

0:25:530:25:57

will be fine.

Is the last thing he

needs is to be pulled out of the

0:25:570:26:03

firing line?

I think so, he is in

the England setup and an experienced

0:26:030:26:08

goalkeeper. He needs his manager to

support him. He's playing him every

0:26:080:26:13

week and he will get through that.

Just one game for a fantastic

0:26:130:26:18

performance and then he builds on

that and his confidence is back

0:26:180:26:20

again.

Mario Mola mean is a big

loss?

Massa. He looks like he's

0:26:200:26:29

played in the Premier League for

years.

The Birmingham derby is

0:26:290:26:35

underway.

Robin is at St Andrews.

Five minutes ago and goalless. We

0:26:350:26:43

have had Che Adams and Robert

Snodgrass booked for a set too early

0:26:430:26:47

on. Birmingham could be ahead, Sam

Johnstone, the Villa goalkeeper

0:26:470:26:53

nearly embarrassed firing a goal at

a Birmingham player which then went

0:26:530:26:58

just wide of the post.

Let's move on

to the game at Selhurst Park

0:26:580:27:02

yesterday.

0:27:020:27:12

I cannot believe we have done that.

We have come in quick after the

0:27:190:27:27

game. Probably shouldn't have come

in quick after the game. We fought

0:27:270:27:30

all the way to the end like that and

then been so unprofessional at the

0:27:300:27:33

end.

He last speech as now, is it

speechless in the dressing room?

A

0:27:330:27:39

little bit. No body does things on

purpose in this team, but two points

0:27:390:27:46

dropped, simple as that.

He is

always a good post match interview,

0:27:460:27:52

Joe Hart. He wears his heart on his

sleeve, no pun intended.

He is

0:27:520:28:01

always honest, unprofessional, big

words. What is he doing in the

0:28:010:28:07

corner, he romps to the corner flag.

You should ask why so many West Ham

0:28:070:28:12

players are in the opposing penalty

box in the 97th minute. Why Antonio

0:28:120:28:19

has to put in a cross to launch

another attack when he can just play

0:28:190:28:27

it out. If he had played it out,

because it was so late in the game,

0:28:270:28:32

the revelry would have probably

blown his whistle. Joe Hart showed

0:28:320:28:39

what a top goalkeeper he is. He

clearly has had dips, but he made

0:28:390:28:44

about five or six world-class saves.

He is fantastic and that is why he

0:28:440:28:50

was newly crying in the interview.

He was nearly crying.

Because he

0:28:500:28:55

played so well and he got some

criticism over the last few months

0:28:550:29:00

for England and what have you, but

yesterday he was phenomenal. But is

0:29:000:29:04

the Joe Hart we know, making

unbelievable saves. I felt for him

0:29:040:29:09

at the end because he would have

grabbed the headlines today and

0:29:090:29:13

rightly so, because of his

performance, now we are talking

0:29:130:29:16

about Antonio and what he should and

shouldn't have done.

But the

0:29:160:29:21

unprofessional line be accepted in

the dressing room because you would

0:29:210:29:24

accept you had throw it away?

From

him, because he is professional. If

0:29:240:29:30

it was somebody not as professional

as him saying those things, you can

0:29:300:29:33

question it but Joe Hart wears his

heart on his sleeve and there will

0:29:330:29:38

be a lot of disappointed players are

not dressing room but you can take

0:29:380:29:46

criticism of your peers if you

respect them.

Tweets coming in,

0:29:460:29:51

Antonio Lotz stood the two points,

so ridiculous not to keep the ball

0:29:510:29:55

in the corner. Tom Jordan says,

coming back from 2-0 against Spurs

0:29:550:30:00

and then drawing with the worst team

in the lead. Mark on Twitter says it

0:30:000:30:05

is things like this that cost

managers their job. Adam Dyer on

0:30:050:30:13

Twitter, not good enough, it is time

for a change at West Ham.

0:30:130:30:17

It is a very difficult one, it is a

difficult week to sum up for West

0:30:170:30:21

Ham?

0:30:210:30:26

It is ridiculous, I do feel for

village at the moment.

He needed a

0:30:260:30:30

hope that the full-time whistle!

I

think there have been points this

0:30:300:30:34

season when he thought, do I go or

am I going to be pushed? He has been

0:30:340:30:37

that bad. One of those occasions was

after the Brighton game, I don't

0:30:370:30:42

think he has at any point lost the

dressing room or the players, I

0:30:420:30:45

think they've responded with that

incredible fightback as they showed

0:30:450:30:51

at Wembley, and then yesterday,

where did you get to with that?

0:30:510:30:55

Sometimes village can be down and I

do feel sorry for him but I think he

0:30:550:30:59

has an expectation not just from the

fans but the owners which I think is

0:30:590:31:03

incredibly unfair at times and I

think it has been difficult for him

0:31:030:31:06

to manage and come through, but I

still think they will stick with

0:31:060:31:10

him, I think their tendency is to

stick with managers, the owners, and

0:31:100:31:15

I think that is the right thing to

do.

What I would say, after the

0:31:150:31:19

defeat to Brighton, if the argument

was, they are not working hard, not

0:31:190:31:23

playing for the manager, not putting

in the high-intensity runs, not

0:31:230:31:27

covering the distance, which was all

discussed on double Spurs game. The

0:31:270:31:30

Spurs game they fall from two down,

the second half yesterday was

0:31:300:31:35

fantastic, partly through West Ham's

defending, putting their bodies on

0:31:350:31:39

the line, blocking everything, so

even though it is two points

0:31:390:31:44

dropped, they still did what,

arguably, they hadn't been doing in

0:31:440:31:48

the Brighton game?

Of course, and I

think the decision made yesterday,

0:31:480:31:53

it wasn't anyone's desire, it was a

bit of inexperience showing, I don't

0:31:530:31:59

think you can even look at the

manager and criticise anything he

0:31:590:32:02

has done for that one lack of

judgment from Antonia not to keep

0:32:020:32:06

the ball in the corner and I think

it is just obviously the

0:32:060:32:10

circumstances around West Ham is

bigger than this one performance.

0:32:100:32:14

Yes, he was distraught after, you

saw him walking off the pitch

0:32:140:32:16

shaking his head and as a manager

you prepare all we can do this, you

0:32:160:32:20

put in a great performance in the

second half, and you shoot yourself

0:32:200:32:23

in the foot in the last seconds of

the game, especially away from home,

0:32:230:32:26

you could see how frustrating it

was. But for all managers, it seems

0:32:260:32:31

every week a manager is getting

fired, under pressure, who is next

0:32:310:32:35

ago, the bookies have a favourite,

it is a thankless job.

It would be

0:32:350:32:40

interesting to know what the Crystal

Palace texts and tweets would have

0:32:400:32:43

been if West Ham had held on because

now all of the Palace tweets are

0:32:430:32:47

fairly positive. Clive, total

commitment, definitely staying up,

0:32:470:32:52

Zaha was awesome, can't wait for a

fully fit first 11. Danielle, seeing

0:32:520:32:57

that resilience is something I

haven't seen for many years, gives

0:32:570:32:59

me more hope on avoiding the drop.

Jayden, kept going to the end,

0:32:590:33:04

pleased with the point, should have

been more, performances have

0:33:040:33:12

improved lately, we are desperate

for a striker.

0:33:120:33:14

But if Michalak Tony had not done

what he had done and they had

0:33:140:33:16

scored, they would have been

different tweets because they would

0:33:160:33:18

be beaten at home by a relegation

rival. But it is not!

As I said,

0:33:180:33:26

they would just be pleased on both

sides, you feel like you have lost

0:33:260:33:31

when you have gone to nil up and

then draw 2-2, and vice versa when

0:33:310:33:36

you are down.

Palace are not adrift,

but what I would say is that they

0:33:360:33:39

have dropped so many points in an

early stage of the season. I felt

0:33:390:33:44

when Roy Hodgson went in there that

he would keep them up because he is

0:33:440:33:48

an experienced manager, say what you

like about him but I thought he

0:33:480:33:51

could get enough out of that good

group of players. It is not really

0:33:510:33:55

working out like that at the moment,

at some point during the course of

0:33:550:33:59

the season they will have another

lull and this bad opening to the

0:33:590:34:03

season, they are not adrift.

85058

or use the hashtag if you want to

0:34:030:34:12

get in touch with us. Daniel

Sturridge but is 100 club goal, he

0:34:120:34:20

has made 65 starts, 31 from the

bench, 67 bowls of a pool. You have

0:34:200:34:25

laid against him, what is he like to

mark?

Very elusive. You don't want

0:34:250:34:32

to face him one-on-one. He can go

both sides, very nimble changing

0:34:320:34:37

direction. I'm a big fan, he gets a

lot of criticism for missing games

0:34:370:34:43

but when he is fit and playing, it

did not surprise me that he scored

0:34:430:34:47

yesterday, it does not surprise me

whenever you scores because he is a

0:34:470:34:52

top talent. He can just create

something out of nothing

0:34:520:34:58

top talent. He can just create

something out of nothing.

He gets a

0:34:580:35:02

lot of stick from missing so many

games... Were you at city when he

0:35:020:35:06

was a kid?

Yeah, he felt he had a

better opportunity going to Chelsea

0:35:060:35:13

and he played more, from a young age

she thought it would not get an

0:35:130:35:18

opportunity here, get a fresh start

somewhere else and you have to give

0:35:180:35:21

him credit for that. A couple of

seasons ago for Liverpool he was on

0:35:210:35:30

fire and I think the fans just want

that Daniel Sturridge back but he

0:35:300:35:33

has had injury problems and cannot

get up to that level.

It is simple

0:35:330:35:37

to get that Daniel Sturridge back,

is it down to his personal fitness

0:35:370:35:41

rather than how Liverpool set up,

how they play, the players around

0:35:410:35:45

him?

I don't think he has done

anything wrong, I think he has just

0:35:450:35:50

been unlucky, he is not a

professional, he does everything by

0:35:500:35:53

the book. Because he is so quick, so

explosive, you will pick of these

0:35:530:35:58

injuries and niggles, how do you

stop that? I don't know, I am not a

0:35:580:36:03

professional in that department.

No,

no you are not!

He is a brilliant

0:36:030:36:08

technical player, he is one of

those, if you were picking five

0:36:080:36:12

strikers for England, he is sort of

the one out of the ordinary, the

0:36:120:36:18

Joker in the packed comedy genuine

-- he genuinely is. His finish

0:36:180:36:22

yesterday summed him up as a player,

it was an outrageous finish,

0:36:220:36:28

something special. He can add so

much. We all thought maybe he was

0:36:280:36:33

not a clock player but he gets

enough minutes, does enough damage

0:36:330:36:37

to justify a regular first place.

For England at the World Cup, would

0:36:370:36:41

you take him and use him as an

impact player off the bench?

100%. I

0:36:410:36:47

think he is likely better than that

but I think it is difficult at this

0:36:470:36:50

point in time with Harry Kane being

such an outstanding player, can you

0:36:500:36:55

justify two in the starting line-up?

Harry Kane has been so prolific of

0:36:550:36:59

late for his country but Daniel

Sturridge for me get in the squad,

0:36:590:37:02

in and around the starting line-up

every day of the week.

I agree with

0:37:020:37:07

that, Daniel Sturridge has to go, if

he is fit, to the World Cup.

But you

0:37:070:37:11

would not play him with Harry Kane?

I could see him, he likes to play

0:37:110:37:17

short, get involved in the build-up

paper may does not mind providing

0:37:170:37:21

assists, so I think they could play

together but again you have got Dele

0:37:210:37:25

Alli who has a great relationship

with Harry Kane, both performing at

0:37:250:37:29

club level. I'm glad I'm not the

manager!

Let's move on to the late

0:37:290:37:37

again this afternoon, Leicester

taking on Everton.

0:37:370:37:42

Claude Puel will take charge

of Leicester for the first time.

0:37:420:37:47

It is an opportunity, especially

Leicester, for me it is a great

0:37:470:37:51

club, great fans, fantastic

opportunity. There are difficulties

0:37:510:38:00

in this moment but it is a good

challenge, good challenge, and I

0:38:000:38:04

have a good feeling to come here and

now to be a fox is fantastic.

0:38:040:38:16

Claude Puel well in one technical

area, David Unsworth in the other as

0:38:160:38:23

he continues to make his case for

getting the job at Everton

0:38:230:38:27

permanently.

0:38:270:38:28

Conor McNamara is at

the King Power Stadium today.

0:38:280:38:31

So far this season in the Premier

League three clubs have chosen to

0:38:310:38:35

change manager and we see two of

them against each other head-to-head

0:38:350:38:38

today. I was at Goodison Park last

weekend commentating on Everton's

0:38:380:38:44

defeat Arsenal, dropping into the

relegation zone, but there was not a

0:38:440:38:46

mood of anger amongst the Everton

fans, it had almost reached the

0:38:460:38:51

stage of acceptance, disconsolate

mood, and may be that much as

0:38:510:38:54

anything forced the owners' hands.

David Unsworth gets the chance today

0:38:540:38:58

to see how he fares as a manager in

0:38:580:39:10

the Premier hope for the lift a new

man often gets with the dressing

0:39:100:39:13

room trying to impress the new

manager but he will be well aware

0:39:130:39:15

that Claude Puel will get the same

effect from the Leicester City

0:39:150:39:18

players ahead of his first game in

charge in the Premier League at the

0:39:180:39:20

club. He knows he has a talented

squad, virtually the team that won

0:39:200:39:23

the league under Claudio Ranieri,

and how ironic it was this fixture,

0:39:230:39:26

Leicester City hosting Everton, on

the day Leicester were crowned

0:39:260:39:28

Premier League champions. There has

been water under the bridge since

0:39:280:39:30

then, Ranieri had a poor start last

season, Shakespeare had a poor start

0:39:300:39:34

this season, and the Leicester fans

would not swap their happy memories,

0:39:340:39:37

but thinking back to Andrea Bocelli

singing lessons or mamba pitcher, it

0:39:370:39:41

all feels a very long time ago now.

0:39:410:39:46

When Claude Puel was announced, on 5

Live people were saying, this is not

0:39:460:39:50

too bad, if you look at his record,

he won in Monaco, Lyon in the

0:39:500:39:55

Champions League semifinal, but

Southampton to eight, made the

0:39:550:39:57

League Cup final last year, they are

right, aren't they?

He is a Fox now

0:39:570:40:02

as well! I don't know, it just

doesn't inspire me, I have seen his

0:40:020:40:09

interviews and I see him and if I

was in the changing room I would be

0:40:090:40:13

thinking, is he inspiring?

He might

be different in the changing room.

0:40:130:40:18

Possibly, I could be doing him a

disservice because of the language

0:40:180:40:26

difference, in Lyon, he had the

language there as well. You imagine

0:40:260:40:32

him in the changing room trying to

get the best of the players in the

0:40:320:40:35

team... I don't know, the Leicester

fans will hope he does great, of

0:40:350:40:39

course, but he doesn't inspire me,

there are no British or Irish

0:40:390:40:43

managers or coaches getting an

opportunity...

Although he is

0:40:430:40:46

replacing a British manager in Craig

Shakespeare.

I will get my coat

0:40:460:40:49

them.

I was just making the point!

Point taken!

On you!

His record

0:40:490:41:03

speaks for itself, no one is

doubting his ability as a manager

0:41:030:41:06

and I was surprised he left

Southampton last season but in terms

0:41:060:41:09

of what Leicester need, reports

suggesting they want to attract

0:41:090:41:15

bigger names, potentially still

riding the wave of winning the

0:41:150:41:18

league, attracting bigger names, for

me that puts pressure on him to go

0:41:180:41:21

out and provide what they have said

they will deliver on, attracting

0:41:210:41:25

bigger players.

He fits into their

structure, though, doesn't he? I'm

0:41:250:41:29

trying to convince all three of you,

putting the other point of view! But

0:41:290:41:34

they have their director of

football, their backroom staff has

0:41:340:41:37

often stayed the same whether it has

been Pearson, Ranieri, Shakespeare,

0:41:370:41:49

they tend to keep the same people in

the background.

He did that at

0:41:490:41:51

Southampton as well, did not

necessarily bring in a new team.

It

0:41:510:41:54

is easy to say that the dressing

room suits and Englishmen being in

0:41:540:41:56

charge, forgetting the fact that

Claudio Ranieri is the Italian who

0:41:560:41:59

won the title with them! Say what

you like about Ranieri but that is a

0:41:590:42:03

fact. It seems to me that along the

way people were desperately trying

0:42:030:42:06

to detract from his achievement,

which is so unfair. Coldwell is

0:42:060:42:10

interesting in that there were two

sides to him at Southampton, the

0:42:100:42:14

site where they did indeed finished

eighth and arguably deserved to win

0:42:140:42:18

the League Cup

0:42:180:42:28

final, then decide where they were

desperately dull at home, couldn't

0:42:410:42:43

score goals, were not inspiring the

home fans, and if you ask

0:42:430:42:46

Southampton fans, I would say that

they were not particularly surprised

0:42:460:42:48

when he went because that is what

the club do but I don't think they

0:42:480:42:51

were particularly disappointed

either.

We have about a minute to

0:42:510:42:53

talk Everton and on the basis that

you might still be talking to me,

0:42:530:42:55

David Unsworth, yes or no?

I would

love to see him get the job, he has

0:42:550:42:59

got Everton in his blood, I would

love to see him get the opportunity

0:42:590:43:01

to get the big job at Everton and

bring the club forward, the bookies

0:43:010:43:04

will have four or five foreigners

lined up, I'm sure, but why not give

0:43:040:43:07

David Unsworth the chance?

He has

got Everton in his blood,

0:43:070:43:09

considering that Ronald Koeman

seemed to spend a lot of time

0:43:090:43:12

flirting with Barcelona.

I think

that is a massive 's selling point

0:43:120:43:14

to the Evertonians. The effort

needed to play for an Everton team,

0:43:140:43:19

David Unsworth knows that.

The

positive fear, going full circle,

0:43:190:43:23

even though we criticised the under

23 league, he won the under 23 lead

0:43:230:43:28

and he will play some of the kids?

Yes, he has that connection with the

0:43:280:43:32

young kids coming through, Everton

should be so proud of their youth

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system and the way big evolve kids,

and I don't think there is a better

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fit at this particular moment in

time that Unsworth, who has got

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their faith and their aspirations

that heart and can bring them

0:43:430:43:46

through, given the chance.

Thank you

all very much for your company today

0:43:460:43:51

on Match of the Day 2 extra.

Brighton Southampton and Leicester

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evident across 5 Live this

afternoon, then Match Of The Day to

0:43:540:43:58

later tonight. -- Leicester Everton.

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