Quarter-Final: Hull v Leeds Rugby League: Challenge Cup

Hello. This afternoon the Challenge Cup arrives in Hull, a City's flit

in rugby league in terms with the river as a divide in point. -- A

cities that. Over to the east, Hull KR, but in the West it is Hull FC.

It is East against West of a different kind, Leeds rhinos are in

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town for Yorkshire derby, and these That final defeat is leads' only

bad memory of Challenge Cup games between the two. They have knocked

them out in the semi-finals, the quarter finals and the 4th round

last year. And they will need their experienced players this afternoon

at the KC Stadium. Indeed, Hull Coed Richard Agar has asked his own

forwards to copy the leadership skills of opponents' Jamie Peacock.

-- coach. Leeds has often the bridesmaids in the Challenge Cup,

three finals in 12 seasons, they have lost each one, including last

year. And Brian McDermott is under pressure in his first season in

charge as he tries to rebuild Leeds and take them back to the glory

Hull and experienced Cup final heartache as well, three years

after that 2005 win over Leeds, they were beaten by Saints at

And Richard Agar have not been in the coach's job long when he led

Hull and in that game. He wants to It is a big have done enough for

two are the biggest clubs in rugby league. You might say that there

season's rest on what happens this afternoon. There are some nervous

fans in his KC Stadium this afternoon. The Hull and Leeds

players are warming up just behind us at the moment. Leeds are in the

pink strip this afternoon. Alongside me at the KC Stadium,

plenty of expertise and the company of Brian Noble and local knowledge

in the company of former Hull boy and England head coach Steve

McNamara. There is in a minute, but this is the second for the final on

the BBC this weekend, and this afternoon will after goes on to

match yesterday's at Warrington. -- be a first try for Harrison Hansen.

He just about got there. This is a good run from Sam Tomkins, here he

goes, Wigan looking to strike again. They are chasing, but they will not

catch him. Wigan have two scores in a blink of an eye. Wigan continue,

a little pass by Coley, and Foley Cairns, Richards, try! Bridge,

Monaghan and, Solomona. 2010 is in! support. Myler is over, Warrington

have got a second. It is on now. Here is Myler! It is a clear run in

for another Warrington try! They were dead and buried, but the

resurrection is very nearly over, as he got it down? He is

pointing the finger. Good hands by Hoffman and Carmen. Warrington try

to recover, Richards is in at the through the first cap! What a try

this is going to very! Look at Atkins chase him, he is not going

the skipper, Sean O'Loughlin, what Wigan into the semi-finals, and we

will have the draw for the final four later this afternoon at full

Saints are already 10-0 up. We were there yesterday, from an England

point of view, you must be so positive, given the young talent on

display. Oh, without a doubt. There were so many good players, so many

good English players yesterday. It is a testament to both clubs,

Warrington and Wigan. The standard of the performance was a great

spectacle. If they can stay in that form, it gives us a great

opportunity in the Four Nations. could eulogise about that game for

ages, but we will talk about today. This is big for both sides.

have the element of trapdoor football, one of them goes out, so

the pressure and intensity goes off. They both desperately need a win.

The seasons have been a little bit indifferent. The pressure is there

for all to save. Indifferent, he says. Let's take a look at the form

of Hull FC with tiny Arnold. It has been a topsy-turvy season

all round in the Super League, and Hull FC epitomise that more than

most. A defeat to Huddersfield in May was followed in June by another

loss to local rivals Hull KR. Shaun Briscoe's second half tries against

his former club did the damage. But the visitors suffered a massive

blow, Sean Long dislocating a shoulder that gritty them out of

action for the rest of the season. -- that could keep him. After an

away victory at Bradford, 16-0 up after 24 minutes, they moved to a

top aide spot. -- eight. An emphatic win follow that struggling

Wakefield, although not with a late -- without a moment of concern for

Kirke Yeaman, who suffered an epileptic fit at half-time. He

recovered enough to see his team win. It has not been plain sailing

since then. Another big win at Salford sandwiched between a defeat

at St Helens and then losing tamely away at Leeds. They are one spot

below the Rhinos in the Super League table, hoping for a much

better performance today. They hope for much better, but they are going

in without Craig Fitzgibbon, their leader. He will be a big loss.

a superb signing. For the last couple of seasons, he has been a

big leader. Today they will be very strong. Without Richard Agar, he

has said he wants them to copy the leadership of Leeds' Jamie Peacock.

Is that strange? Strange timing, I would not do it, but I understand

what we're saying. Jamie Peacock is an inspirational figure, that is

what he is trying to allude to. The Hull forwards have got to take an

extra staff to replace the action that Craig Fitzgibbon give them. --

step. As the players get ready for kick-off, the big news does not

involve them this week. It involves of the pitch goings-on, Adam

Pearson, there was involved with Hull City at Derby County, has

taken over the club, and earlier he spoke to Tanya. You have been in

and around football clubs for many years, why have you turned to rugby

league? It sold and complement the football really well. I understand

the city, the stadium and the culture of the club. It is a great

club. It makes a change to commit rape club that does not need

overhauling, it's just needs overhauling. -- it makes a change

to come into a club that does not need overhauling, it just needs

changing. It has lacked a bit of investment over the past six years.

The previous board have done a good job, but it needs to be kicked onto

the next level. This could be a massive Super League club. You have

the salary cap to deal with, it is not just a matter of throwing money

at it. I'm really pleased with the Catt, it should have been in

football a long time ago. It is nice to see sportsmen been rewarded

with good money but not stupid money. We want to put some

excitement back into it, get the crowds back and get some rivalry

going with Hull KR. I think we will have good fun here. Looking forward

to today's game? I am desperate to win, even after just having been

here for two days. It would be a good start. But we will be ready

for next season. Enjoy it. Thank you. Stray onto Leeds, this is

Leeds Rhinos have faltered badly since the last round of the car.

This was their only try as they lost at home to Warrington. Even

the return of Danny McGuire could not lift them and the Wolves ran

riot. One week later, St Helens had their turn. The coach admitted

their team was in a tough place. It was easy to see why as Saints came

back from 6-4 down to win easily. In June, 48 hours after the

international match, five players who took part were in the team

which outplayed Hull KR at Headingley. Another win against

Crusaders followed, but above of a surge up the table took a knock as

they fell to local rivals Bradford. Dashed hopes of a surge. Penalties

proved decisive. It happened again one week later as Leeds led 18-12

at half-time, only to lose in a tight finish. Next up, and a loss,

this time against Catalans Dragons, then notched up only their third

ever win against Leeds, leaving the Rhinos almost certain to end his

season out of the top four. But as we saw earlier, they managed to get

back to winning ways with victory over Hull last weekend, keeping

them on course for a play-off berth at least. Just to confirm that both

sides are on course for the play- You have got Kylie Leuluai and

Brent Webb back, how much has that bolster the team? Yes, they have

been good performers for us this year, so it is good to get them

back. It will put us in a good position today. How much confidence

that you glean from last week's win against this lot? Defensively, we

were very strong. We were very solid. While the conditions were

not great to promote good expansive stuff, we still had to defend the

Knuth. We will gain some confidence from that, but it will be different

today. We have a different referee, different conditions, and it is the

Challenge Cup, a different competition entirely. There will be

some things that we do take out a bit, but we are not overly

confident high enough. Did it ease the pressure a little bit? It had

been building from outside, handed? You would have to tell me that, I

don't know. I don't know what goes on outside the camp. I'm only

interested in what goes on inside. It was not great inside, nobody was

comfortable with where we were at and where we still are hat. But in

terms of pressure, there is pressure, the right type of

pressure on each other. Players to coaches, coach to players, but what

goes on outside I cannot tell you. Good luck today. Steve McNamara, if

there is pressure on him, he needs experienced players, no more than

Kevin Sinfield, who could break the goalscoring record for the club. He

will do that if he gets three goals. It is his composure, his leadership

in terms of Kevin Sinfield. He has been around for a number of years,

a real legend for his Leeds club. If he plays well today and kicks

the ball well, he will make it very How long is this kind of job going

to take? I am not sure he is trying to rebuild, he is trying to give

opportunities to young players. The expectancy of Leeds, because they

have been at the ascendancy, they had a tough period at the start of

the season with injuries and that affected their form. I think they

are pretty much where they are going to be for this season, a

force to be reckoned with. It is a big game for both clubs, Hull FC

versus Leeds Rhinos in the quarter- final. You commentary team is

Hull FC Club, a very nervous Brian McDermott, but a good crowd

assembled here for what should be a terrific match. We were entertained

yesterday with Wigan and Warrington, and now the two Yorkshire side's to

do something similar. Plenty of potential in that Hull aside,

particularly Briscoe. Lacking Craig Fitzgibbon, tickled Manu and

Western men are the men at the both of these sides. This is one of

the most experienced referees in the game, refereed the final in

2005 between Leeds and Hull. The pitch is in perfect condition. They

have been watering that pitch for about an hour before kick-off, and

it should be very wet. I am expecting some dropped balls.

perfect conditions, a great day for a game of rugby league. Looking

forward to this game because, as the boys said before the match,

this could be their lifeline for the season. They are mid-table, a

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hoping to get some momentum in that whiting get the bounce? No, he

won't. I think he should have passed it the first time, Jonathan.

That will give him a lot of confidence. They have worked a lot

on their offensive play this week. It will be a Hull ball, so that

will give them a lot of confidence. They played the power-play, on the

right hand side, worked on the over reflect the mixed fortune that both

sides have had this season. Good into passing here along the line.

Superbly, good running here, but he couldn't hold it. Ye Kerr key men

couldn't hold it. He just couldn't hold on to it but they will be very

happy. They have cut the Leeds defence Open twice, it could have

been two tries. Leeds will just want to hold the ball here, get

They have been under the cosh for the first three minutes, could have

resulted in two tries. They need to put pressure back on to Hull.

Booing from the Hull ground for Ryan Bailey, always the sign of a

the midriff, but a smile from play of the ball. Yes, trying to

play the ball and it gives the forwards the chance to get back and

side have a habit of bringing the talent through the ranks. This is a

good set of six, clears the line, the danger Rover. -- over.

Leeds will put the pressure on. They have had a good field position

an effect on the handling but it has been sure and true so far.

has been warm up here so far so I think it will have dried the

picture out, and it is in and bring it out. Again, you know,

Hull players will be very happy with the sets. Every time they

finish them they end up picking up the ball or 10 yards from the try-

think Brian McDermott will be happy the way Leeds have resisted.

will be happy that there is no score on the board, but I'm not

sure about Degas. -- Agar. Hull have had two opportunities. We

mentioned the word momentum, and yesterday was a key part. It should

have been Hull in the first three from this half here. A good charge

get there? No, he can't. Just a shade too heavy with the boot on

the right hand side, but that right flanker Paul preventing danger.

very clever kick. He knew the winner was on the right hand side,

and the last tackle, there were two players rushing out of the line all

the time for Leeds and they have spotted that. Richard Horne was

almost creating space on the right hand side. Hull beating Oldham, and

Leeds triumphant over the Crusaders Buchanan! They are forcing him a

little bit. They are forcing it, Leeds. They had a lot of

opportunity to go down the right hand side and now they have

squandered possession. He has given a penalty. Offside. I thought he

spotted well, Jones Bishop. He came in, unfortunately offside. Another

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set of six deep within the 20 metre line. Well taken. Her beautiful

catch from Ben Jones-Bishop. With a clean catch like that, I I think

they should take the opportunity to run it out. You can turn defence

into attack straight away. But you can't just pass the ball to the 20

metre line now Jonathan, the referee starts play full star it

was great play by the young lad, Jones Bishop, so they should have

the advantage because you just can't wait for the said. It would

be worth looking into that to see if there is a choice for him to run

the stadium for Ryan Bailey. -- booing. Sinfield did well to hold

on to that on the first occasion because it could well have been an

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great run of play now, because the play-the-balls are very, very quick.

We are just looking at the possession so far, Jonathan, 62%

for Hull, and still no points on the gored with 13 minutes gone.

the first 30 minutes Hull have been in the ascendancy. You feel that

they need to score. He is insisting something now. All the pressure, or

the opportunity, still zero on the board. Good distribution from the

understand his ruling whereby you are not supposed to push somebody

in to touch. That, to me, is that they cannot do or not? Too much

left to the referee's interpretation. The tackle is not

complete, so that was quite clear. Well, clear enough to Steve Gansu.

once they get into that 20 metres area, Hull, they do not look as

creative, do they? Not as clinical, and that could be a problem. They

have at two or three chances when they should have gone in already.

Yes. As I mentioned, you have got have not had a sniff yet, not one

opportunity. It feels like a boxer on the ropes, they can come back

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the same. Four moving the ball out. This is a chance. Great finish.

Obst is over, under the posts for the first try of the match,

superbly created in midfield. What were you saying, Mr Davies? Yes, he

has been very influential so far in this game. He is the one that is

pulling all the strains. The forwards are giving him a platform.

You just felt they needed to get something. That is the mistake,

Paul takes it, said such the position. From this play-the-ball,

good half-back Blair, the speed, the staff. You have got to question

some of the defence there, but you have got to make the most out of

these opportunities. The accelerated and stepped past Brent

Webb. Classic try from that man there, Sam Obst, signed for

Wakefield earlier this year. After Headingley, that will give Hull

great confidence now. Danny Tickle, the lead, 6-0. That man Sam Obst,

the try-scorer. Nothing really on, they stay off him. He throws the

Hull. Every time Leeds have got the ball back, as I mentioned, D in

their path, there have been no attacking opportunities yet by

player, is relishing the sundown there! This whole pack have started

at a good pace, Jonathan, not afraid to pound in from second

receiver. The yardage has been superb, absolutely superb. You know,

the first three tackles, they made 227 yards against the Leeds' 87.

They are making it easy for the Hull half-backs to control his game.

Again, numbers on the right hand side. Cameron Phelps coming in at

Very good chasing there. Imagine running out from fullback when you

are the size of Webber and Jimmy from Delany. This is better from

There was no pressure on Briscoe whatsoever. You have to put the

ball in the air and compete for it. I am not sure he was running the

game for Leeds. They look rudderless at the moment, lacking

confidence. The pressure from the kick comes about 3 awful yards out,

not long-distance. -- 34 four. look at sixes and sevens at the

moment. It is this Hull pack who were really commanding here. The AA

do have Burrow on a branch to bring on just to give them a little bit

you. This is one of them, Ben. Hall just contemplating passing

the play-the-ball. This is that there! Oh! Interception here from

Whiting! Can he get away? He is They have got to score. It is in!

Well, well, well, well! An amazing, opportunity. Whiting, not sure if

he had the pace. You think that these goals, Gray's tackle by Danny

McGuire. -- great tackle. The ball comes out, easy, easy, easy try for

Jordan Turner! Very easy drive for Jordan Turner. Just watch, they

couldn't get back in time, rave. They tried to scramble. That took

some strength to get over that line, actually. He had to force his way

through. You really did. Richard Whiting, he knew, if he did not get

the ball into that intercept, Leeds would score. He went on a long,

lazy run. Eventually, they end up... Danny Tickle with his second

would have scored. You can just sense their feet down mayor in this

huge bowl of a stadium. -- the heat and Hull go out. -- another two

points. He would not think it from the smile on Richard Agar's fees.

This is the finish. It is a great attempt. That try to have some

getting. He had to turn, he had to get himself round. He had to use

his strength, that young man, turn delighted with the first 23 minutes.

any news? I have got Danny Washbrook with me. Great start for

you guys. Yes, I started really well, two tries in the first 23

minutes. I do not think we could have asked for much better.

Particularly important after last week to get on the scoresheet early.

Yes, we wanted to put that right. This week is the perfect

opportunity against the same opposition. A rare error by Hull

there. In possession and territory, 60% for Hull, they are totally

dominating this game. Leeds needs to come back. This is the first

time they have had an opportunity anywhere near the halfway line, so

they have got to build this sad. -- bench. I really think they need

this man, he has got to unlock the Hull defence for Leeds. I cannot

understand why Burrow is actually on the bench, Jonathan. Well, that

is the man who picks the side. was the man who usually unravels

that was easy, then Jones-Bishop looks like he might have got in at

the corner. That is a very good finish. Simple rugby it was, good

running from the acting half-back and first receiver. Then good slick

passing. Was he in touch? Was it grounded? The video referee, Iain

Smith, will judge. He tries to push him into touch there. He is not in

touchline. The only question mark is the grounding. I think his hand

is on the ball, I think it is. I think that is a drive. He is not in

touch. Has he got control? Let's have a look. Downward pressure

there. I think he has got his hand for the year to the Harlequins

recalled to this squad. That is to try to me, his hand is on the ball.

Leeds fans are shouting yes, Hull fans are shouting no! At last the

Rhinos are on the scoreboard, thanks to that young man. Another

product from the Leeds Academy. It to all came from that forward pass

on the halfway line. Good field position, then attacking on the

right hand side. There is the forward pass. It is the first time

Leeds had had field position. They have had some dummy runs but they

still have a lot to do. I think Briscoe will be disappointed with

that tackling, trying to push him all round then on the terraces.

tries to push him into touch, misses the tackle, but that is a

between these two sides, and Hull have warned just the one, a

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felt he was interfered with from half-back position. A very clever

significant increase in the pace of the play with the ball for Leeds

now. Just three penalties conceded in the match so far. Pretty free-

flowing, coming up to the half-hour. find it. Rob Burrow now,

ball gets past Whiting - I tell you what, he puts himself in a very

good position. He will be disappointed he didn't catch that.

Whiting is a very clever player. Not the most in lecturing of

winners, but a very clever the play of the ball, good

interchange from the Leeds coach Brian McDermott. It is a knock-on.

behind him. Leuluai just happy to me. Were you expecting them to come

out blazing after last week? Yeah, definitely. They have completed the

set and attacked really well. McDermott has made quite a

difference for you. Yes, he has brought a lot of the team. Thanks

for your time. Pleasure. Leeds doing well to come away from that

pressure. Some good form and drives there, notably from Bradford. On

the last tackle. Forcing Brent Webb back. Straight into the waiting

pressure off that Leeds line. Another knock down. Leeds don't

seem to be able to get that ball across at all. It is that man again,

Whiting. Very clever play by Rob Burrow. He get his hand to the ball,

but he is very clever. He spotted he could take it on the outside of

Turner and he nearly succeeded in putting Ryan Hall way. He has

certainly made an impact since in this first half, Hull still 12-

six in the lead. Tries from Sam Obst and Geordan Turner, and in

through a lot of work. Look at him. A good tackle, well read. Just a

and it will be Hull turning to attack. A good opportunity now here

that penalty, but it is still pressure here. A good defence by

can't. It is good tackling from Ryan Hall. I don't think he has got

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it down. No need for the video now. I think they will be relieved

there is only six points in it. games, one way or another, Richard

players to get into the dressing room for some words of advice. High

tackle. Lauitiiti on the 4th tackle as well, that is crazy play. No

need for it, he wasn't going anywhere. Can we hand to Tanya for

some injury news for start one player is coming off due to a

hamstring injury. If it is a hamstring injury, he won't be

coming back on. Never having been fit enough or fast enough to have

won, I will just agree with the outside. Can he get through

himself? He is pumping his first. great offload. The referee just

through those tackles as if they were paper bags, pushing them away.

He thinks he's God. Ryan Hall in front trying to get down. That is a

off is not there. McGuire tries to hold them up. No, a death and a try.

down. I do not think Mr Smith will be too concerned about this. It

would be a dry, it is. Or coming from that penalty, Ray. The high

tackle, at two and a half minutes to go on the clock. That is poor

game management from Lauitiiti. He gave them the opportunity for field

position. With that field position, that man scored his second try.

Former England Under 18 captain, just proving what Steve McNamara

was saying. We are producing a lot of youngsters at the moment. They

McDermott, but as we see often in rugby league, and we saw yesterday,

a scoreline like this is not a winning scoreline yet. This is

still anybody's game in the next 40 minutes. Danny Tickle, then, with

the kick from the touchline on the half, the gritter has gone. On the

balance of play, I think they in? A unlucky. It fades to the

right hand side. Turner, happy with his performance, two tries, a

couple from techno, and in reply the Jones-Bishop try and a Sinfield

conversion. -- Tickle. Hull are in changing rooms here at the KC

Stadium, whether they will be happy with the 10 point lead, or whether

they would have expected more after their early dominance. Sam Obst

eventually going over for their first try. Thanks to Richard

Whiting's interception and persistence, a slight loss of

control of his legs there, they eventually go overthrew Jordan

Turner, his first of two. Things changed for Leeds when Rob Burrow

came on, Jones-Bishop getting there try, and right at the death Turner

And when we look at the stance, England head coach Steve McNamara,

we do not need them, you can just deserve a bigger lead on the basis

of that display? They were certainly want more, but I think

they will be happy with that after scoring at the death. They have

enough of a lease to suggest that they can go on to win the game.

They are hardly given away any penalties and they have given

themselves a great opportunity. They were criticised last week for

the lack of creating opportunities. They are missing some players, but

they are playing the brand of football which has given them some

opportunities without it being too structured, and they are coming up

trumps. That 85% completion is such a contrast to last week, when they

failed to complete 21. It was 8.5% last week! It was a difficult game

for them. You could say that in the start they made. Terrific start,

and they have dominated territory. It is quite simple. They can cause

problems for anybody when they build pressure. This is one of the

early opportunities, Phelps makes a breakthrough on the right hand side.

All Yeaman has to do is catch them, that was one list of its the drops

this one cold, difficult to see what has happened. When you are

sitting in the stand, you are seeing yourself dominate like that

at the start but not taking the opportunities. Are you fear for?

Probably not fearful, but there's probably some anxiety amongst the

team. They went 80 minutes last week without scoring, which is

tough for a team to take. But they have created an opportunity in the

first five minutes. They picked themselves back up and they are

playing with a lot of confidence. This aspect of the play, the

conversion from Leeds, attack and defence, was not the best. The

first three plays, Hull picked up massive movement and gave

themselves a chance. Jamie Jones- Buchanan, the ball is on his

outside, but he gets help from Buderus. He makes the play on the

outside. Buderus does not help catch Obst. They are over the line

again. They have obviously created this one, Jones-Buchanan, great run

from Obst. They called it in the commentary, maybe five minutes

beforehand, they said it may not have power and strength, but he can

spot a gap. He is powerful. There's not much of him, but he is a very

powerful player. He has been a good signing midway through the season.

He has come in and done a great job. How well as Richard Whiting read

the game this afternoon? interception came, we can call him.

-- King. Whiting does not get anywhere near this one, because

Leeds have created the overlap, outlet waiting for an opportunity.

They were in there. Whiting get rid of Webb, I think somebody shot him

from the stands! But they had enough players in the frame to get

over the line. Jordan Turner has to finish it in the end, because he

had to use great strength. I just think this game is as much about

what Leeds have not done, handing the ball over right, giving Hull

the opportunities. You have got to believe they will take those

opportunities any day of the week. If we are talking about strength,

Jordan Turner has got it in abundance, Steve, not only with

that tried but with his second. Without a doubt. He has taken his

opportunity over the last few weeks to become the regular centre,

growing with confidence. It is great to see a young man performing

well. Great strength, he is a very strong player. He has shown that,

he has worked very close to the try-line, very dangerous. Leeds

fans and general fans will want to know why Rob Burrow did not start

today. I am not his coach, so I would not make that call. He is

obviously using him in a role, he thinks he can be effective. This

changed when he came on. We saw Kirke Yeaman making a poor read

there. But it is a fabulous finish. He may be asking a bit more of

Briscoe. That isolates Briscoe, he has got to make a lot of ground up.

Maybe he should have tried to do a side on tackle. A fabulous finish

in the end. He gets the ball down. We watch Australian footage, the

contortionists in the league, the way they position of four. That is

as good as any you will save. That is a world class finish from the

young man. I don't like to produce a difficult position, so I will do

it too. Would you start with Burrow? I hope to be a coach again

one day! I understand why he did, its speed the game up. The last 15

minutes, they were more dangerous. He was attracting defenders on to

him. If he has got the energy to do that for the whole of the second

half, we will be lauding his decision to bring him off the bench.

Regardless of whether he started or not, if he had been in the team at

the start, the amount of defending Leeds have had to do, he would have

been under tremendous pressure. That would have taken a lot of

juice out of him. Sometimes you put your best team out, you're going to

play one way or the other and then you do not have the ball for the

first 25 minutes. I think that there was a long time to go in this

game, 40 minutes. We can see how the game will swing, there will be

more swings in this one. Given that, it was probably vital for him to go

all right at the end of the half. think it is a huge score, one

minute away from half-time. Moving from left to right, it needs to be

scored, this, because the Leeds defenders, in the end it takes

three of them. To score just before half-time, two scores ahead, Leeds

have to play a bit more expansively, so they are not within one score.

That gives Hull a huge lift, a little bit more of a Hill for Leeds

to climb. It looks like a calm dressing room. So it should be,

they are in control. Going back to that last try, the amount of skill

from Willie Manu to find the offload, Westerman to find the

offload, that was not a structured strike, that was of the car staff,

a bit of an offload, come up with something special. -- of the calf

here. Earlier on this week, the great and the good of the rugby

league community all got together to raise money for the rugby league

Benevolent Fund. If you do not want to see these gentlemen looking

What is the technique here? For all Go fast, get off, let someone else

What induced you to do this on your own? Dave words, as simple as that.

-- Dave words. You are not economy The BBC team have lulled me into a

false sense of security, telling me that we would be on a canal in

Venice. It has manifested itself into this. It does not even go

It is me next! I think it is great that people from rugby league can

come together for a day like this to raise some money. If you had

made that kind of distance as a player, you would have been in the

top 13! Could you do his job? No chance at all! You are all

pussycats in rugby league! There is a battery and a back. If I fall off,

when the wife. Best individual effort, how are you feeling? Jesus,

that was really are! Shattered! A member of the team was just

telling me that you were the Redgrave of the BBC team, the

Vanessa Redgrave. Probably to foot shorter! What about his posture at

the end? He was dead! He did it all on his own! He spent half the day

just standing next to me annoying me! It was a tough day, but a great

day. Ray was part of it as well, and you did quite a bit, I am led

to believe. A little bit more than I bargained for! I was told I was

just to start at two finished, I thought four strokes, but it was

nothing like that, I can assure you. �15,000 raised for the Benevolent

Fund. It was very good, it was worth it. It was hard, but it was

worth it for the Benevolent Fund. You saw quite a few of the

gentleman and the ladies who benefit from it who were actually

taking part. That staggered me. Sensational stuff. We will have the

semi-final draw for the Challenge Cup at full-time here of Hull FC

versus Leeds Rhinos. What do Leeds needs to do to make sure they are

in that drawer? Well, they need to get a really good grip on field

position. If they do that, they are going to score points. I think

Leeds will score more than the 10 points they are down, so Hull need

to score again. In answer to your question, stop Hull from scoring.

Leeds can win this game. Who is your money on? The Leeds. Back to

the commentary team. The Sir Steve Redgrave of the BBC team, Ray

come Hull. They must be happy with that start, Jonathan. I think they

played exceptionally well. As Steve said, they completed the set, they

had a good kicking game. They did the basics very well, and they also

run the power play. When defenders rushed to the line, they had the

confidence to go and put some wits on it. -- width. Leeds will come at

them now so they need to kick on. Don't forget that straight after

this game we will have the draw for the can meet the challenge Cup

statistic - possession, territory, sets completed, metres after

tackles - Hull are very much ahead of Leeds. Yes, the important

statistic is on the scoreboard. They have just been solid, Dom the

basics well and that is why they are in this position. You think

this Leeds pack led by Buchanan will be looking to seize the

initiative in the early moments of this half. Not the best of kicks. I

wonder what Brian McDermott said, what would you have said, Jonathan?

I think they just needed direction. The half backs have got to get some

authority. They definitely improved in the latter stages of the first

half, which gave Rob Burrow a having the ball more, he is a good

footballer, clever man as well. Just give him the ball and let him

create. The pressure is back on Leeds now, they have got to come

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pass but Ian Kirke did well. He is Whiting. A again, he'd just does a

lot of cleaning up. A good footballer, and reads the game

exceptionally well. Appears like a saying, I believe you know that,

Tanya? Interestingly they expected to be behind at half-time so they

have been told to take it to Hull, keep it tight and stick to the

game-plan. I'm not sure how that sits on the confidence section,

expecting to be behind at half-time. Sinfield is away. Terrific ankle

tackle, can he get him again? He gets back. Wonderful from Willie

Manu. That is a tremendous effort, I thought he was away. It could

even save the match eventually. knew he didn't have the pace so he

just time to the tackle stretching over the line, and Leeds

did so well to keep that movement going. It broke down on the right

wing, continued by Sinfield, and Lauitiiti in other side of the post,

and Leeds are back in business. Great skills by Sinfield. You think

the short ball, but a great finish. The creative ability of Sinfield -

many players would have been content to have picked up the ball

go but it was a tremendous tackle. Here is Sinfield with his second

kick of the afternoon. That equals been the inspiration for this Leeds

side for so many years. 16-12 now pack. Kevin Sinfield equalled the

record set by Lewis Jones between 1952 and 1964 with the number of

goals scored. Amazing, 1244 goals. Will he beat it this afternoon?

Hull are now giving penalties away, making little errors. Tanya?

Richard Agar has told his team took up the ante in defence. He was

expecting the fightback from Leeds. They are working on Danny Buderus

who has a stiff joint in his neck but he will be looking fine to go

Tickle. Danny Tickle was shouting and shouting and shouting not to

defence around the centre. These Leeds for what are certainly

the corner from Delaney. The two forward suffix -- at the two for

words helping and Leeds back in business. I think he has injured

himself here. He created the try but he has copped a dead leg or

something. Has he pulled something? No, I just think - look, he rides

the tackle. Makes the try. He spins out of the tackle, Delaney finishes

it well. The tackle had to be made. No stopping Delaney, the big

powerful 15 stone man. Clever play by McGuire when he just spawned

over the tackle. -- spun over. Kevin Sinfield with the chance to

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out, it puts the pressure back on Hull. They are suddenly losing

their composure, just lost it. amount of errors, they have made a

lot of errors and also they have conceded some penalties which has

shifted the momentum back to Leeds. And they have certainly made the

most of it! Leeds, just content to put the ball into touch, not really

too bothered about gaining too much territory. Just having possession

information on Danny McGuire. We will come to you in a minute when

out. He has given the penalty. Tanya? It is a dead leg and they

are keeping NI on him. -- an eye. Well, dead leg or not, he is doing

well enough out there at the moment. indicates how important both sides

Hull gain the lead, 18-16, and Sinfield breaks the wonderful

record of Lewis-Jones. 1225 goals throughout his career -- 1245.

Lewis Jones is in very good form, I saw him recently at the anniversary

of the championship when for Leeds. Danny Tickle having some attention,

just some strapping around his with more purpose around the play-

the-ball now. Yes, there's more -- some 04 star again, another

shoulders, no doubt about that one. It is Hull conceding the penalties

now. You have got to say, keep your discipline, do not give this Leeds

aside any field position. It is did not spot it. Did it come off

the Hull player's book? The referee thought it came off the shin.

-- he is down! And Carl Ablett is down, and the Leeds fans are

ecstatic. Trailing 16-6 at half- time, they are in the lead 22-60

now. -- 22-16. That is not a knock- on. Let's have a look at the second

one. That is off the food, play on. That was a good call by Steve

Ganson, very good. That was a very good hit by Turner, but he's done

in the tackle and he was too powerful. It is a very good hit.

Again, you look at a second row converting into a centre. A very

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good sender, too. He spun out of Leeds heading for a 9th semi-final

in 12 years? Quite a record. And further update on Danny McGuire?

They are just working on him, keeping him going. Danny Tickle had

an agonised expression on his fees when he had his finger put in.

is the spirit! Lauitiiti has made a difference, hasn't he? These

certainly has, he has been coming remaining. Jamie Jones-Buchanan

having a little bit of treatment. Good running. His hamstring could

not have been that bad. It is a factors, it took 13 minutes in the

first half for Hull to give away a penalty, but now they are coming

thick and fast. They have given Turnover of all, in their own half.

Will they be penalised once again? Hauraki, a good signing for Leeds

from the Crusaders down in North Hull. Five minutes from the line. -

- five metres. A big charge! Can he get down?! He is short, inches

he is checking, is he? He shouted out that it was short. Did he hit

the line? If he hits the line, it is a drive. -- try Allsop I do not

know, I think we need another angle. I think the tip of the ball is

I think that is short. Yes, the grass, Jonathan. Yes, but the tip

of the ball... It would be difficult to give that. The tip of

the ball is short. It is on his arm. It is on Jordan Turner's arm.

will be a play-the-ball. Yes, cannot see, can you? Definitely

over the line, but I think the ball is short. I think it would be very

difficult to give here from the video referee. But I think it was

worth a call from Steve Ganson. that as a try. I know there is the

benefit of the doubt. You could see it. It must be no drive. It is. --

no try. Play-the-ball, tackle four. and he is injured as well. That

will be a blow if Burrow and McGuire has to leave the field.

was a poor pass. He has had a knock, he has just had a knock. He will be

into this game with less than 20 minutes remaining here in the

quarter-final of the Carnegie draw for the semi-finals at the end

again, Cameron Phelps. This is better from Hull. They have been on

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Iraq for 10 or 15 minutes. -- On Up backs as well. Leeds only made

about 20 metres. That is a good player. McGuire there having

treatment on at leg. -- that leg. I doubt whether we will see him back

spotting they were not square. think Richard Agar knows that this

is the crucial period now in this game. Hull trailing by eight points.

They need some success now. They need something now, yes. Offside,

but has he lost it?! As Joe Westerman lost it? He had it in the

crook of his arm. I think he... he lose it?! It was a very good

That is a try. Ali Lauitiiti tried to knock that ball out, as you can

do. Good effort by Ali Lauitiiti. But that is a tremendous effort by

Westerman. Downward pressure was there. That is a try, and Joe

Westerman, the �250,000 signing from Castleford, puts smiles back

on the Hull faces. They are back in his game. -- this game. Tremendous

came into it, lovely ball, short ball. He was the dummy runner, but

he took the ball up. Very good run. Good turn, Lauitiiti, great effort.

Great finish. Even if Lauitiiti had his hand on the ball, it is still a

telling his players to be ready for this kick-off. Good passing from

the play-the-ball. The twisting and the turning and the try. A We have

I think, Jonathan, there will be a few points coming because it is

still very warm, these players will be tiring. Yes, they will be a

little bit, and some of the bigger guys will slow of a little bit.

That is when you get the mismatches on the little half-backs against

the penalties have had a major his own now, running down the right

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hand side, he used to do that with That is a dangerous tackle. I don't

think it was intended. It was a clumsy tackle. Both Rob Burrow and

Danny Buderus acknowledged that. middle, they need a position to

pressure is on. He takes it again. That was good play again by Delaney.

Jones-Bishop bringing it away again, breathing deeply, the heat is

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clinging to. A two points lead. Can he go inside? Yes, he does. As we

heard, Rob Burrow, who came on, is now beginning to do the work that

Brian McDermott wanted him to do in the final 10 minutes. As the big

men are tiring, that man is getting through an awful lot of work.

Brent Webb, a lovely pass. Whiting definitely played for it. When they

go down the left onside, just watch Rob Burrow. That is the offload.

draws men before he gives the past, doesn't he? Yes, and Phelps was

drawn in as well. Just watch what happens. The ball comes out, Brent

Webb's offload. Cameron Phelps is caught in no-man's land. This kick

will give them a little bit of breathing space. 28-22. One thing

with Sinfield, he doesn't take the ball very far to give himself a

An excellent kick. The Leeds fans tackle, Cameron Phelps comes in,

caught in no-man's land. The short looking to defend rather than

securing the ball and that is a big mistake. Turn the ball over in the

had a good game today. Leeds looking to drive their advantage

home in the pack. On the last McGuire not feeling that dead leg,

no? Looks all right. There he is, looking for the friend rather than

securing the ball. -- looking to think Richard Agar knows that.

Still time, only eight. The Brent Webb running without his

shorts! He has lost the ball. think he offloaded. Now then, what

happened there?! Let's have a look. There is two men in the tackle. If

Richard Horne had held off, I think Willie mono would have stolen the

ball without his help. -- Willie A very good kick. But a good chase

by Ryan Hall, that was the necessary aspect of it. Very, very

opportunities this afternoon, the The only thing here that would just

closed the game off. The Leeds pack dominating this game. That was a

good tackle. Penalty. Richard Horne, I think it was. He is going for

this will take a minute, then the restart, then they will have

possession. They are just running down the clock. That is a sensible

move. Doesn't make much difference to the score. They still need to

score twice. The prolific points of Leeds fans and a very contented

looking to jet the ball from the kick-off but Leeds come with it.

Three minutes remaining, 10 points the difference and surely Leeds are

confirming their dominance. Twice winners over Hull in the super

League, now success in the Carnegie the tackle was made. Yes, a good

of-the-match? I think the influence he has had, he changed the game

when he came on, he had a little bit of leadership there, so my

Carnegie man-of-the-match is Rob Burrow. If I wouldn't argue with

that. Game as ever, he is tackling and wraps himself around the legs.

I think Kevin Sinfield would be a good rival to him. Yes, but the

impact he has had on this match Writing was on his left downside

but I don't think he was covered. The need to score now if they have

it? We are checking. That is a great tackle by Danny Buderus. If

he has dislodged the ball, that is a great tackle. For a Hull go to

get across their at this time in the match. He has lost it. That was

his intention, Danny Buderus. He knew he had played it, a great

tackle. That is the end of the match for Hull. They have to score

in that said. I think he knew the ball was knocked out of his grasp.

A 20 me to restart. -- 20-metre. A tremendous player, Danny Buderus.

Rumours are that Newcastle might want him back. And a good day for

especially, looking as if they could continue on the road to

Wembley and that a win there for the first time in 12 years. We will

know their prospects better when we see the results of the draw for the

semi-finals here on BBC Two, live in about 10 minutes. I am sure Gary

Hetherington will be happier than he looks. He has done it again!

Another try for the youngster, Ben Jones-Bishop in the corner! The

spotted the opportunity, and the interception was his. It is

congratulations all round. They had to do something, chasing the game,

the long ball. It is easy. Simple get some first-team experience and

to learn the game. 9th try in 15 games for Leeds, really making a

push for that spot on the right wing. Sinfield again with another

conversion attempt. Yes, he looks a problem with that. That is the

whistle, a contented group of Leeds fans, Leeds triumphant in the game,

32 points in that second half, six tries, 14 points and a goal-kicking

record for Sinfield. Hull, then, in the semi-final... Hull out of the

semi-final, Leeds in the draw, 38- I am with Brian McDermott, how

pleased are you with that? It was a game where momentum kept swimming

throughout the game. With the momentum shift, Hull came back and

stared us. We came back from the initial points down, so some

resilience from our fellows. heard that you almost expected to

be down at half-time. You were not worried about that. It was going to

be a different script to last week. The danger was reading into how

dominant we were then. That was not going to happen today. They came up

with some players and momentum which scared the life out of us. We

are glad we are in the hunt for the next round. You are in the semi-

final, how much does that mean to you? Everything, you know. There is

a Grand Final, but we want to be successful as we can. There are

some very good teams in the competition. We are through to the

semi-final, and that is great. Burrow, you are the Carnegie Manor

of the match, congratulations. How tough was that for you? Really

tough, we have played them twice in two weeks. We knew that last week

would have no bearing, and that showed without determined they were.

They made us fight. Are you getting used to live, off the bench?

really, I want to start, but whatever is best for the team.

can see the influence, you can see things changed when you come back

on. I do not know about that, it could be anyone who comes on and

change at the game. It has been a tough season at times for you guys,

are you getting some momentum now? We would like to think so. We have

at two could games together, we need to kick on. It is getting to

the business end in the Cup and the Super League, so we need to kick on.

And that relations. Going over the line, Carl Ablett, did you enjoy

that? I do not often get many. I thought I would go myself and get a

few tries. Do you feel confidence is starting to come, back-to-back

wins? Yes, that is it. But victory last week gave us a bit of

confidence. We started a little bit slower today. We came out better in

the second half. We really went at them and score some nice tries as

well. A feeling of unfinished business for the Challenge Cup for

you guys. Maybe a little bit. As I say, we had the experience last

year and did not perform how we wanted. It will be great to get

back, but we're only in the semi- final. We will see how that goes.

Head for the dressing room and watch the draw. It should be

interesting! You called it at half- time, Brian, we are getting ready

for the semi-final draw in just a second, which you will be able to

see with us on the BBC. That is what you said at half-time. Leeds

looked after the ball better in the second half and put Hull under

pressure. Hull were not doing the things which made them so

successful in the first half. They were gifting Leeds field position.

They have too much talent when they errors, this one from Phelps, a

fabulous break from Jones-Bishop. Brilliant from Willie Manu.

Unfortunately, Leeds come down the other end and capitalise on that

position. Now a tedious to began strong. He got the ball over the

line. -- Lauitiiti is just too big and strong. Did the momentum should

come from Hull's errors? Initially it did, yes. A gifted Leeds field

position, and they made the most of it. -- they gifted. Hull were

trying to defend from the outside. If you're going to do that, you

have to stick with them. A couple of great finishes in the first half

from Turner. Three unanswered tries at the start of the second half.

was, and this is Carl Ablett, close range, physical tries. Hull had to

do so much defence because they were not looking after the ball as

well as they had done. Super Finish, great strength and technique to get

over the line. But they did come back better. We said they had to

score next. It was all or nothing. Great play there, I think it is

Horne or Obst. He gives him the ball on the outside shoulder. He is

not looking at the player. Laverty D, one-on-one with Westerman, and

Westerman had great technique to keep his feet, move on and put the

ball over. Close at this stage. 22 at this stage, and then Carl

Ablett with his second try extended the lead. Yes, again, a carbon copy

of what we saw on the other side, coming from outside in. When

executed by Leeds. He has made a great fist of scoring gym close-

range finishes. Ben Jones-Bishop was so sensational for Leeds and

other high ball. He deserved his second try. This has been gifted to

him. He thoroughly deserves that. He is a fabulous young athlete.

Willie Manu puts it on a plate for him. He will not have an easier

score than that throughout his career. Deserves? A hike in so.

Over the course of 80 minutes, I think Leeds deserve to win. -- I

think so. Jones-Bishop was injured and came back to show some great

touches today. All these calls from the Carnegie Challenge Cup are on

We are doing the Carnegie Challenge Cup semi-final draw for you now

live on the BBC. We are in the company of Steve Prescott, former

Hull and Saints player, not a great day for one of your former side's.

It wasn't, but that is Cup football, it can go either way. Welcome to

sergeant-major Lynden Robertson from the Yorkshire Regiment. You

are from a fantastic scheme whereby tickets, sporting and otherwise,

are given to troops. You are going to draw the second teams. None of

us has ever done a draw before! Fingers crossed. The semi-final

draw, away you go. Good luck. The The second one out... St Helens.

Wigan Warriors will play St Helens. Obviously, Castleford Tigers.

the man from the Yorkshire Regiment... Leeds Rhinos. We have

two derbies in the Carnegie Challenge Cup semi-finals. Let's

just confirm them for you. Thank you very much for doing the draw

You will be able to see both of those games on the BBC on the

weekend of 6th August and 7th The final, which she will be able

to see live on BBC One, that game is live at the end of August, 27th

You can ring the information line for details about getting tickets

for the Challenge Cup final. Leeds are in the semi-finals, and it

looks like quite a calm dressing room at the moment. Have they been

told, do you think?! They would have wanted that draw, the pick of

the teams. Castleford probably would have wanted the Leeds draw as

well. Local derby, fierce rivalry between the two clubs. There will

be fireworks and fabulous football. You don't want to disrespect

Castleford, it is 25 years since they have won the Cup, and if Leeds

were going to be somebody, it would have been Castleford. I do not know

if she could hear it, but the Leeds fans were cheering when that draw

came out. They obviously think that, but Castleford have done incredibly

well to beat Huddersfield in the quarter-final. They have got some

threats. They are going to be a threat. I am sure they will be

excited by the prospect of facing Leeds. Wigan and St Helens.

cannot call at one! Words fail you, it will be an absolutely fabulous

semi-final. Saints and Wigan games are always awesome, but the form

that both teams are in, it should be even better. Let's get some

reaction from the Leeds camp. do make of getting Castleford in

the semi-finals? Yes, obviously, with Wigan at St Helens, they are

the form teams, but this is a draw we are happy with, and we are

looking forward to it. Pleased to avoid Wigan? They were at their

best to beat a fantastic Warrington team. St Helens are playing very

well. Both ties are exciting, looking forward to it. How are you?

It is fine, just a knock-on my knee. I manage to run it off and get it

out there. Credit to the boys, we had a few people carrying knocks,

but we battled on through and got a good result. Great stuff, thank you.

Let me point you in the direction We have not got very long. It is an

amazing semi-final draw. Fantastic. I think Hull will be disappointed

that they put themselves in a position at half-time to go into

the draw for the semi-final, but it was not meant to be. Two classic

derbies, West Yorkshire and North West, two classic games. Whatever

the result, the final will be an experience as well. The games we

have seen this weekend have been fantastic. I think they have been

terrific, and we have got two semi- finals that will be just as good.

All of the four games have been exciting and competitive. Thank you