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Challenge Cup semifinal here in Leigh, it is Wigan Warriors against | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
London Broncos, classic David versus Goliath, time to queue the anthemic | :01:02. | :01:12. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds | :01:12. | :02:09. | |
music and put tongue firmly in brink of a remarkable achievement. | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
By the end of next month, they could hold both football's FA Cup and the | :02:13. | :02:20. | |
Challenge Cup as well. That will help those who are trying to make | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
the town a city. As far as London are concerned, their whole future | :02:23. | :02:33. | |
could rest on this evening's game. It has been a short journey for the | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
Wigan fans, just eight miles to get from their town to hear at Leigh. | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
For the London fans, though, a completely different proposition. | :02:43. | :02:50. | |
From their home ground to year is a whopping 212 miles. It is the | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
Challenge Cup semifinal weekend, Wigan against London this weekend, | :02:52. | :03:00. | |
and then tomorrow we have Al against Warrington for you from 5:45pm. -- | :03:00. | :03:06. | |
Hull. And we want you to get in touch with us as well, you can | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
e-mail us, and we want your four words to describe this game. We will | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
do the forum from seven o'clock tonight on the red button. As you | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
can see, Ian Millward, Brian Noble and Jon Wilkin are with me. We have | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
said it is diverted against Goliath, are we giving them any hope, London? | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
We have to give them hope, that is what the Challenge Cup is about, | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
turning up for 80 minutes and producing a performance. It is | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
significant, this club needs a win here to generate the interest. | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
Wigan, as all top four teams, they have got their mind on the trophy, | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
and that is what they have come to do. We will come onto the history | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
and future of London in the forum a little bit later, but if they are to | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
have a chance this afternoon, they have got to get off to a good start. | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
It is crucially important for London. Wigan are now on. Think | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
rushes in the middle of the field, the forwards are tenacious. -- Wigan | :04:07. | :04:17. | |
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are notoriously brochures in the middle of the field. If you do get | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
off to a good start in a semifinal when you are the underdog, you can | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
cause big problems. Wigan against Catalans in 2007. One of those days | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
you don't need reminding of, but we will do it on national television! | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
They blew us away in the first 20 minutes. Call it what you want, the | :04:37. | :04:41. | |
belief in their own team, the job that Mick Potter did as coach, we | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
could not handle them, it was too much of a hill to climb. But can | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
that happen, if you are overwhelming favourites for a semifinal, that you | :04:50. | :04:58. | |
can be laxer days ago in your start? I am not sure it will happen today, | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
this Wigan team are really well prepared and focused on this game. | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
There was not only one person with their head in their hands, not the | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
best day, but you learn to live with them, and you learn from those | :05:09. | :05:13. | |
things. The club will have learned from that as well, and it is really | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
important, London have to really aim up at the start of this game, to | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
make it one of those days whereby the bounce of the ball goes their | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
way, and maybe a lack of execution, Wigan does not go down and they | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
become nervous. Maybe London will take hope from the fact that Wigan | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
are not in great form coming into this game here in Leigh. They have | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
lost three of their last four in Super League, including on Monday | :05:37. | :05:47. | |
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Aaron Swift is over! Another one! Pat Richards is in at the corner! | :06:07. | :06:14. | |
Korea and a wonderful pass, and here comes Charnley, and absolutely | :06:14. | :06:23. | |
scintillating try! Pat Richards, what about that?! Unbelievable! | :06:23. | :06:29. | |
Greenwood will score, he has won it for Saint Helens! | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
Given the fierce rivalry between the two clubs, were you surprised that | :06:33. | :06:41. | |
Shaun Wane left out two or three of the big names for that. Not at all, | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
I think they would have played if they were 100% fit. The exciting | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
thing for Wigan, coming into this game, regardless of that result, | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
they have got two of the best players in their positions coming | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
back into the team, and that will have a huge impact. For us, it was a | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
really or inspiring performance, something we needed. We needed a | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
lift this year, but to have the likes of Sam Tomkins coming back | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
into the team, they have got two real game breakers in O'Loughlin and | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
Tomkins, and they cannot be underestimated, their importance to | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
this Wigan team, not only in terms of the way they play but their | :07:16. | :07:21. | |
leadership off the field. Yes, they are both back today for Wigan. We | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
saw in that montage but it is worth seeing again several times over and | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
over, which is the Pat Richards drop goal. Not only the distance but the | :07:30. | :07:37. | |
angle. This is still, but bereaved Lexus, to understand the situation | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
in the game, anyone watching that will say he just dropped the field | :07:40. | :07:50. | |
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goal. -- this is guilt, but bereaved it, he can hit the ball on a fly | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
from a dropout, 50 or 60 metres, change the tempo and momentum of a | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
game straightaway with his kicks. Obviously, he has got a high | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
percentage kicking. Wigan is not renowned for changing tempo, but | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
this bloke can. Even as you saw it sailed over the posts, you must have | :08:21. | :08:29. | |
had massive respect for that. that audacious, his technique was | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
that quick, I did not see the ball bouncing on the ground. What a | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
fantastic piece of skill, nearly changed the game for Wigan. | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
Fortunately we came back. As the camera is on you, give me the face | :08:42. | :08:48. | |
you pulled as you saw it go over! Something like that. That is a | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
television natural, I am telling you. Let's hear from both coaches | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
talking to Damian Johnson. Overwhelming favourites, the bookies | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
are not often wrong, but are you concerned about Wigan's form? | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
all, we had a good performance against Widnes, but in a cup | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
semifinal there are no favourites. Regardless of league position, | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
London can play on any given day. For 80 minutes, we need to be at our | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
best. No shying away from the fact that it is an important game, a | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
wonderful opportunity to work really hard to get to moments like this. It | :09:22. | :09:28. | |
has been an enjoyable week, so we want still have a few more. | :09:28. | :09:33. | |
rested a few last night, everybody fit? We have had a great week, the | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
players are really looking forward to it, and we will show London the | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
respect they deserve, a quality team, well coached by Tony Rea, and | :09:41. | :09:47. | |
we are confident in our abilities but we will be showing them respect. | :09:47. | :09:55. | |
Missing some key players. We have got 17 blokes, those are the ones we | :09:55. | :10:01. | |
are thinking about. Let's talk about the players that are in, as Tony Rea | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
wants us to do, rather than the ones that are missing. How can the ones | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
that are missing. How canny a move to bring in Soward for this | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
campaign? Is not only what they want to do on the field, but off the | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
field, and they have got to a situation where they got through the | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
quarterfinals. They have beaten Bradford on the way, and they have | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
got this situation in bringing Jamie over, he has played State of origin, | :10:23. | :10:31. | |
NRL, he is a run of the ball. It gives you all the attributes you | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
need in the semifinal of the Challenge Cup where he can dominate | :10:33. | :10:42. | |
the game. Look, I spoke to him before the game, he is not here to | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
have fun. He would love to be in the Challenge Cup final, and he is here | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
to make an impact. The big impact is going to make is run the ball, and | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
that is what he does when he plays well. It has been criticised in the | :10:52. | :10:55. | |
past for not running the ball, but he will have a massive effect. All | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
the kicking game will be on him and the running game. He can play, no | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
doubt about that. You do not play origin football unless you are a | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
world-class player. I mention at the start of the programme, unless he | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
gets the grounding, he can kick the ball and bring his bounce I back, it | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
will be difficult for him. With more on this man who was so crucial to | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
London, here is John. Very few people have given London a chance | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
today, fans, pundits, broadcasters. For London to do well against Wigan, | :11:27. | :11:30. | |
they need a couple of players to have a massive impact. One such | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
player is this man over year, Jamie Soward, who has been brought over | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
from the NRL to bring some magic to this London team with his passing, | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
with his kicking, all of his distribution talents and creative | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
input. I will tell you what, if he has a good game today, this is as | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
good an opportunity for London to get to the Challenge Cup final as I | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
have seen. Every doesn't have an involvement, the reason he will not | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
be involved is because the Wigan pack as dominated London, they are | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
young and aggressive, very hard to stop, trust me, I have played | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
against them many times! Was he being overdramatic to say that | :12:07. | :12:13. | |
London's future could rest on this game? Yes. There has been a lot of | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
speculation in the press, and this is a one-off semifinal, and they | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
will be hoping to get over the line and beat a good Wigan side. If they | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
get to the final, the world is their oyster. It is a big game in those | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
terms, but I think their future is secure, going forward, and bringing | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
people like Jamie Soward in, it is not a gimmick, they have made a | :12:33. | :12:37. | |
statement as to what they want to do with the club. They have only had | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
one final appearance, back in 1999. Did they fail to capitalise on that? | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
We can always look back at history, but they had a lot of Australians in | :12:47. | :12:51. | |
their team, a lot of non-English there, and today they have tried to | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
put together a team not just of Australians. They spent the full | :12:56. | :13:03. | |
side recap, so it is not that they are short of money. My great friend | :13:04. | :13:07. | |
Graham Murray coached leads, and they jumped out to a good start, | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
something that London have got to do today. Leeds were too strong, they | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
were more dominant and patient. That is where Shaun Wane will be looking | :13:15. | :13:23. | |
today, patients even if you do not start well. If they fire today, they | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
have got a chance, but looking at the Wigan pack, young and athletic, | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
big and strong, very disciplined, it will be tough today, no doubt about | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
it, but that is what cup draws are all about. You talk about starting | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
well, London, they usually start well. Sometimes when you are | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
expected to win, you can be nervous and not play to your full potential, | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
so they have to still go for the top shelf today with everything they | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
do, other ways they can fall into the habit of chasing the game. | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
saw in that 1999 final, a young Iestyn Harris leading Leeds out, he | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
is now assistant coach here at Wigan, a side who have plenty of | :14:01. | :14:08. | |
Challenge Cup history. Their Challenge Cup record is one of | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
domination. They have reached more finals than anyone else, 29, and one | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
player alone has won the cup with them nine times, the great Shaun | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
Edwards. Their last win was in 2011, a 28-18 win over Leeds, and | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
that means they are now up to 18 wins in the Cup. Surely their record | :14:27. | :14:37. | |
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of eight in a row by the great team will never be surpassed. Do you | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
think that history help these players or it weighs heavily on them | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
at times? What the previous players at the club have done is create a | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
pathway for the current team to follow. There is a recipe for | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
success at whatever club you are out. Everybody is fighting to get | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
that recipe right. Wigan have historically got that right in the | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
cup. Clubs like Saint Helens and Bradford have, but Wigan have a real | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
strong tradition with the Challenge Cup. That's got to be a positive for | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
them. We've talked about Jamie Soward, Ian, you've look that where | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
this game could be settled elsewhere in a head-to-head battle. Two very | :15:20. | :15:30. | |
imposing forwards. Sean O'Loughlin has got a lot more, he is | :15:30. | :15:40. | |
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influential in whatever they do. influential in whatever they do. | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
influential in whatever they do. That is a high step. The average | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
metres are very good. He has to rise up today if he's going to make an | :15:52. | :16:00. | |
impact. Own Laughlin has 22 passes, as many as a halfback would do. | :16:00. | :16:08. | |
Rodney, he relies on tackle and hard running. Sean O'Loughlin is a | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
leader. Rodney, he needs to inspire his team because he has all the | :16:12. | :16:22. | |
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instructions. A man who's done so much for London over the years in | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
the club, in all its different guises. It's a big afternoon for | :16:27. | :16:37. | |
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those two men. Huge day. He deserves all the plaudits anyone can give | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
him. But today is a one-off. I'm wondering if Tony Rea has a few | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
tricks up his sleeve. He might do something different in the game to | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
swing the game his way. How will he stop Wigan's main threat? Josh | :16:54. | :17:00. | |
Charnley's record for Wigan, 98 tries in 90 appearances. How did you | :17:00. | :17:06. | |
stop him? It's very difficult. A lot of what Wigan does is create space | :17:06. | :17:13. | |
for Charnley on the edge. A lot of Charnley's tries have come off the | :17:13. | :17:18. | |
back of Sean O'Loughlin creating that pass initially. When you couple | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
that with space, strength, speed and confidence, that is why he is | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
scoring so many tries. I think his confidence has been his real | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
attribute over the last couple of seasons. He has grown and to become | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
a real personality in the game. Tomkins, when he goes to the left, | :17:36. | :17:44. | |
he likes to step off his left foot and come back in. He is a prolific | :17:44. | :17:51. | |
scorer. I've been really impressed with him. He goes really well. Sean | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
O'Loughlin is a world-class player as well. Along with Jamie Soward. He | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
would feature in any team in the world. I think he's really | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
influential in this team. Just in the corner, that's where he is, | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
Tomkins is with him. Charnley just off to put his shirt on. Another | :18:09. | :18:17. | |
Wigan legend looking on, Billy Boston. Tomorrow we've got | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
Warrington against Hull. We want you to get in touch with us as well. | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
Tweet us. Four words to describe the game. Brian, Ian and John will be | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
staying with us when we do the four word forum after 7pm, which you will | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
be able to watch on the red button. Charnley still hasn't got his shirt | :18:37. | :18:47. | |
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on. Brian now has to dash using legendary pays across this pitch to | :18:48. | :18:58. | |
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for those players to emerge. The Wigan Warriors 13, very, very strong | :19:05. | :19:15. | |
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indeed. Almost at full strength. Yes. For the Broncos, very simple, | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
keep the ball, good kicking game and a good defence. Hang on in there. | :19:27. | :19:32. | |
When the opportunities come, take them. Do the basics very well and | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
keep calm. Not a great number of support from London, but the | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
faithful fans are here. I was speaking to some of them before | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
kick-off. They were all asking, can they do it? Well, who knows? I've | :19:51. | :20:01. | |
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seen big shocks in my time, some of players and seasoned English lads in | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
the Broncos side. But the expansion of the game in London can be seen in | :20:18. | :20:28. | |
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the likes of McMeeken in that line-up. The referee, Phil Bentham. | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
A very experienced Super League referee. We are all set for the | :20:37. | :20:47. | |
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first 2013 semifinal of the Tetleys it. I've never known odds like that! | :20:58. | :21:08. | |
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the final at Wembley Stadium on Saturday, August 24. As usual, the | :21:18. | :21:28. | |
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BBC will be there. Penalty. Oh, it's a scrum down. That is a big mistake. | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
It gives very good position for Wigan to attack. London needed to | :21:35. | :21:44. | |
keep hold of the ball in these early stages. Just joining us is Mr Noble. | :21:44. | :21:51. | |
That's the last thing they need. It wasn't a knock-on. Wigan will try to | :21:51. | :22:01. | |
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wondering, what is it? He's lost it. I think we should explain. The | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
advantage rule, you can play on but you must take advantage. There was | :22:39. | :22:45. | |
no advantage taken there. Had to make the tackle. I think it was | :22:45. | :22:54. | |
Rhodri Lloyd. He had to make a tackle and did very well. He did | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
well. Unfortunately he jammed the ball as well, but he had to take the | :22:58. | :23:08. | |
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them. They always run the same plays in most games, Wigan, but how do you | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
stop them? They created the overlap on the first attack and only a | :23:13. | :23:23. | |
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desperate tackle stopped it. Rhodri runner-up in the Challenge Cup with | :23:54. | :24:04. | |
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Hull a few years back. A good press little bit there. He knew the ploy, | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
he just maybe was a bit too forward in the movement not to give the | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
catch and give. I think Tony Rea will have come out of that opening | :24:25. | :24:35. | |
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with some confidence. I agree. Three sets, in essence. Credit to London. | :24:37. | :24:47. | |
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They have to complete the set and about, Jamie Soward. Always with | :25:10. | :25:19. | |
that head guard on. Good, long kick. A testing kick. I understand | :25:19. | :25:27. | |
we can hand down to Damien. A slight breeze taking the edge off the | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
temperatures down here, but it is sweltering. The Wigan team have an | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
air conditioning unit for the dressing room just to take the edge | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
off. So no stone left unturned as they plot a route to Wembley. | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
been interesting this year, Brian, I've noticed a lot of dropped | :25:44. | :25:51. | |
football in this weather. A lot of sweat. The ball gets wet and it is | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
difficult to handle. When it's got that way, we've seen a lot of games | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
that have been scrappy and error ridden because of the wetness on the | :25:58. | :26:04. | |
ball. There's been an edict gone round for information in the last | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
week about certain players wetting the ball. They've obviously picked | :26:08. | :26:15. | |
up on that fact as well. I've seen it done many a time! This catches | :26:15. | :26:25. | |
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him on the back of the bonds and condition. There's a penalty for | :26:48. | :26:55. | |
stealing the ball. Is immaculate. I would rather play in these | :26:55. | :27:05. | |
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conditions than a December night. far corner. I think he will need | :27:14. | :27:23. | |
more than two points. The Broncos with their first attacking... Luke | :27:23. | :27:33. | |
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was in that they must semifinal against Catalans Dragons. A good | :27:54. | :28:03. | |
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ball out to Soward. Terrific from I think it's a knock-on from the | :28:31. | :28:40. | |
London Broncos, which is unlucky. His armies over the top. Luke Dorn, | :28:40. | :28:50. | |
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Broncos are trying to do. They are going to go wide. They realise they | :28:53. | :28:58. | |
can't make much of this Wigan side, especially the pack, so they will | :28:58. | :29:08. | |
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put a bit of wit on it and try to go can't go lateral all the time. The | :29:14. | :29:22. | |
intent is there to go wide. There's been a lot of silly talk about this | :29:22. | :29:26. | |
Broncos side. Don't forget, they have some talented players who have | :29:26. | :29:36. | |
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played in finals, Robinson... Six wall! Try and run into space and | :30:03. | :30:13. | |
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That is Kaufusi and Bryant, two grand finalists from the NRL leading | :30:25. | :30:30. | |
the way with the quality of their carries. Good positioning of the | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
ball there. As we said, if they do the basics well, control possession | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
and put the tackles in, then anything could happen. Everyone | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
expects Wigan to run away and have a good start. That is a penalty, yes, | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
he was ripping it out. That is not going to help, because this is now | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
going to give them field position. That is a very good kick, giving | :30:55. | :31:05. | |
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through! Magnificent stuff! They just switched off then, didn't they? | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
The short side just switched off, and Darrell Goulding has exploited. | :31:30. | :31:40. | |
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He did not need the winger. There we the same way. The gap opens up, and | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
it is very difficult for the full-back to make the tackle. But | :31:52. | :31:59. | |
poor defence. This is a sucker punch. Too much of an opportunity | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
for a quality player like Darrell Goulding, smart player, smart | :32:02. | :32:10. | |
footwork, not so smart by the Broncos. One of the young Wigan lads | :32:10. | :32:17. | |
coming through the academy. It is a very good finish, but you cannot | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
switch off, that mark-up. They have to communicate, they both went the | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
same way, and it was so easy for Golding. In a Challenge Cup | :32:26. | :32:36. | |
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will not score an easier tried this season. London are really frustrated | :32:51. | :32:53. | |
with that. That can cause an emotional balance, Ray, when you | :32:53. | :32:58. | |
make such case in full mistake. coach, you know how many tries come | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
from silly penalties like that one. It is communication, Ray, you have | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
defended well, had a bit of pressure. You have soaked up three | :33:08. | :33:13. | |
sets of six, and a simple mistake, a lack of communication, which you do | :33:13. | :33:23. | |
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whatever he has got left. Very good field position, they have lost it by | :33:56. | :34:06. | |
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poor attention. Bad mistake by happy with it. Just a reminder of | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
what he said, it will be difficult to get field position against this | :34:16. | :34:22. | |
Wigan team. It is not the recipe you need, you have to take everything | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
they are going to give you today. They were three points adrift at the | :34:29. | :34:38. | |
bottom of Super League. Of course, Wigan are in second position. They | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
are looking for a league and Cup double. Great difference between the | :34:43. | :34:53. | |
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two sites, but in rugby it is all of London have done very well | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
defensively. Once Wigan go to the edges, we will see their full | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
potential. Yes, I think we have seen them creating opportunities, two | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
really good hits. They have two prolific wingmen as scorers. Broncos | :35:30. | :35:40. | |
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in possession, trying to get into They have just given a penalty away | :36:30. | :36:36. | |
and field position. It is the element of discipline, they do not | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
want Wigan to get on a roll, that is what they are worried about, and | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
that is why they are messing about a little bit longer in the ruck. | :36:45. | :36:55. | |
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O'Loughlin looks full support and isn't it? Well, they are not having | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
to work too hard to get out of their own half and find some field | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
position. 15 minutes in, Izzy going for gold? That is a bit of respect | :37:14. | :37:20. | |
for the London Broncos. I thought, eight points, they would need to | :37:20. | :37:27. | |
score twice. Quite surprised by that decision, Ray. Well, I am not, in a | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
match like this. I do not think teams these days go for goal kicks | :37:31. | :37:39. | |
enough, I mean, this is no different from when you will remember, they | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
used to give him three attempts within the first ten minutes, | :37:42. | :37:52. | |
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psychologically. I just think, early in the game, they might have wanted | :37:52. | :37:59. | |
a pop, but this is a pop on its own. O'Loughlin with a long pop at goal, | :37:59. | :38:05. | |
and he has missed it. He struck it really well, though. They will have | :38:06. | :38:15. | |
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would have been tempted to have a go options, what should you do here, | :38:26. | :38:36. | |
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where he take it? As far as he can, prop, having an injury to his hip | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
assessed. It was not a contact injury, he slipped fell awkwardly. | :38:49. | :38:58. | |
He is being assessed by the doctor. Gil Dudson, the former North Wales | :38:58. | :39:03. | |
Crusader, hopefully one for the Welsh World Cup side when they kick | :39:03. | :39:13. | |
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That is good running. Well done, guys - was it 50-1 on? When you | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
think of the victories that London have had in Super League against the | :40:04. | :40:14. | |
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London Broncos... Knock on, just second error rather on his carry. He | :40:25. | :40:35. | |
will need to clean that up for London. Territory in opposition, you | :40:35. | :40:41. | |
know, it is favouring Wigan. London are going to get tired doing all | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
these tackles, but because they have just made some in the errors and | :40:44. | :40:54. | |
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given so many penalties away. years of age, really part of the | :41:03. | :41:13. | |
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Absolutely no chance of staying in the field of play, just watch. Once | :41:45. | :41:55. | |
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he lands, he gets smashed by Hansen. and I think they will be looking for | :41:57. | :42:03. | |
a fair distance. They will need it. As Jonathan has said, territory and | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
possession is increasing, and they are a very patient side, Wigan, and | :42:06. | :42:13. | |
all this defence is going to mean someone will make a good decision. | :42:13. | :42:23. | |
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this boy Thornley, he is a very is a try! Lee Mossop, is it? | :43:02. | :43:08. | |
Derivative play by the halfback in the middle there. -- to reflect. | :43:08. | :43:15. | |
Bringing the forward on just at the right spot. Well engineered. Lee | :43:15. | :43:24. | |
Mossop. Well, they have the break, didn't they? Just watch this play, | :43:24. | :43:30. | |
O'Loughlin takes the ball to the line, simple play, lovely pass. Just | :43:30. | :43:38. | |
a little bit too white defensively. They were overloaded on one side, | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
and that will make spaces. They were worried they would have spaces on | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
the edge, so spaces open up in the middle. It is the system that they | :43:47. | :43:52. | |
play, Jonathan - they have to work out their numbers, they play really | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
nice and tight, and their dummy runners, the people who think they | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
are getting the ball, they do not get the ball, and it opens up spaces | :43:59. | :44:07. | |
further out. Pat Richards, a prolific goal-scorer for Wigan. No | :44:07. | :44:13. | |
problems with this one, 12-04 the Wigan Warriors, and they will miss | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
this man when he goes back to Australia. And that man as well, | :44:18. | :44:24. | |
when he goes down under to try his hand. There he is, off he goes, the | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
outsize defender does not go with him, the first defender, and that is | :44:28. | :44:35. | |
a very simple try for Mossop, very well worked by Wigan. Another thing | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
to mention for our viewers that are watching, the halfbacks for Wigan | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
include O'Loughlin in that equation and Green and Smith, and they all go | :44:44. | :44:53. | |
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to the line and make defenders make get the ball of these men. Even this | :45:02. | :45:09. | |
early in the game, I think the next score is crucial. It's these two | :45:09. | :45:14. | |
halfbacks from Wigan, Smith and Blake Green, who are causing all the | :45:14. | :45:21. | |
problems. They are bringing forward after forward. Not another one! | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
You've got to try and slow the play of the ball down. But if the referee | :45:25. | :45:35. | |
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picks it up, you've just got to confidently on these passes. Tomkins | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
has not had much room to run so far, but I'm sure we will see him | :45:50. | :46:00. | |
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throughout the 80 minutes. A good said we'd soon see him and there he | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
is. Sam Tomkins going in already four Wigan's third try of the | :46:10. | :46:15. | |
afternoon. Suddenly is London Broncos side have got to get a | :46:15. | :46:24. | |
grip. They made four errors and four penalties conceded. Only 22 minutes | :46:24. | :46:32. | |
gone, there's far too many errors. Steps inside, steps again. Just a | :46:32. | :46:38. | |
massive hole behind the play of the ball once again. A bit of world | :46:38. | :46:43. | |
class can play like this. If you are four defenders away, it might be you | :46:43. | :46:49. | |
that makes the tackle. You need to be alert. It comes off his left | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
foot, so there's three defenders away from him that should have been | :46:53. | :46:58. | |
making the tackle. Luke Dorn, the full-back, is in the line. Once the | :46:59. | :47:08. | |
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first line is broken, which was Luke Broncos is looking at statistics | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
from Wigan, they score far more tries ten minutes before half-time | :48:00. | :48:08. | |
and ten minutes after. Tony Rea needs a couple of messages. He's | :48:08. | :48:14. | |
probably got to put an extra number in the tackle to try and slow the | :48:14. | :48:24. | |
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ruck down. He's got to increase are getting up very quickly, there's | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
men of the Dutch Mac there's men on the ground. Exploit that. They are | :48:32. | :48:42. | |
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going through again. It was knocked back. That's a penalty. Everything | :48:44. | :48:51. | |
is going against the Broncos. are having real trouble holding down | :48:51. | :49:01. | |
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that side. They've got to get It is the number six. A bounce that | :49:53. | :50:00. | |
proved difficult for the London Broncos. Green pounces and Wigan | :50:00. | :50:10. | |
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post. But when you kick the ball, anything can happen. That's what | :50:19. | :50:29. | |
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they do, they put it there and it Pat Richards in the Challenge Cup, | :51:14. | :51:24. | |
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he scored 50 points against London already this season himself. Going | :51:24. | :51:30. | |
back to the kick, it had an element of luck as well. London need to get | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
their hands on the ball. It's easier said than done when Wigan are in | :51:34. | :51:44. | |
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this kind of form, but they've got tackles. The mark of a good site is | :51:49. | :51:59. | |
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keeping the ball from the ball, they have to hold it, London. | :52:47. | :52:51. | |
I think they have this mentality that they're going to chance their | :52:51. | :52:56. | |
arm when they get the ball. Someone needs to remind them that against | :52:56. | :52:59. | |
this team they have to do something different. You need to have a bit | :52:59. | :53:09. | |
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judged as another London knock-on? It is. There was no need for it. You | :53:39. | :53:49. | |
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had been a whole there and you give that pass, you don't risk it down | :53:56. | :54:01. | |
there because there's an opportunity for you. The to pass the ball, | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
Michael Robinson will have a shot # a sore chin tomorrow morning for | :54:05. | :54:15. | |
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Well played by Sam Tomkins inside. Almost like reading out to a baby on | :55:01. | :55:10. | |
the wing. But he's no baby. Big, strong and powerful. Wigan go even | :55:10. | :55:20. | |
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Brian. The key is both their hearts go at the line, gets his hands | :55:30. | :55:40. | |
free... Give some credit to Ben Flower, who carried the ball before | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
that play. Magnificent feat. thought that was brilliant. Flower | :55:45. | :55:49. | |
just steps and goes. You've got to realign your defence and reorganise | :55:49. | :55:59. | |
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it when your own line is very touchline, Gil Dudson is back out | :57:02. | :57:08. | |
and about. It's a sign of Wigan's professionalism that Lee Mossop is | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
prowling around, itching to get back out on the pitch. He's had a blast | :57:12. | :57:22. | |
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of oxygen. He's been working on the static bike here. Logan Tomkins | :57:23. | :57:33. | |
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there, the younger brother of Sam magnificent try! Josh Charnley | :57:49. | :57:52. | |
timing his run to perfection. No wonder those Wigan fans are | :57:52. | :58:02. | |
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delighted. His 35th try of the break in the middle. Great footwork | :58:13. | :58:18. | |
again. Boom! Straight through. He off-loaded to all Laughlin. Get that | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
into you as well. As you said at the start of the game, he's a | :58:24. | :58:31. | |
world-class player. That's a very good try. The support, the vision | :58:31. | :58:41. | |
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and the off-load. That's a classic you can't have rice paper thin | :58:47. | :58:52. | |
defence. At the moment, they will have to show character and a bit of | :58:52. | :58:56. | |
pride and self-respect not for this to be a total annihilation and | :58:56. | :59:03. | |
embarrassment. We were looking at the beginning of the programme about | :59:03. | :59:07. | |
the number of passes made by hot packs, and in particular by Sean | :59:07. | :59:11. | |
O'Loughlin as a loose forward. He's almost an excellent halfback, isn't | :59:11. | :59:21. | |
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to take heart before the half-time? A bit of confusion there. There's no | :00:02. | :00:12. | |
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conviction in taking it. That's a there. I think Tony Rea knows he | :00:25. | :00:35. | |
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will be having a day off for the Cup tackling. Three Wigan defenders | :01:14. | :01:21. | |
there, turnover. Flower has had such an impact, coming on, defensive, | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
attacking. Just watch, he steps out of the line, just smashes him, hold | :01:26. | :01:36. | |
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from the Broncos, that is the sort of stuff that has been lacking. | :01:41. | :01:50. | |
know, the mentality of Wigan will be the 04 London Broncos, they know the | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
game is won. It is a matter of how many points they will score. But | :01:55. | :02:05. | |
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their motivation now will be 20 the can. Do Wigan pick it up? Yes, they | :02:28. | :02:36. | |
do. I thought he was offside there. It has come to nothing anyway. It | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
just goes to show, you know, even when you are winning 34-0, Wigan | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
still complete the set and put a big high kick out to compete for | :02:46. | :02:55. | |
possession again. Was he offside? No, he wasn't, Ray. He wasn't, I | :02:55. | :03:05. | |
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apologise to Josh Charnley. He held has got? He will probably just about | :03:26. | :03:36. | |
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are in complete control here in this Tetley's Challenge Cup semifinal. | :03:46. | :03:54. | |
Available chip over the top. Well taken! That surely will be the end | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
of proceedings. Richards coming insensibly, bringing it out well. | :04:00. | :04:10. | |
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Last tackle. There is the route. The scoreline, very convincing for the | :04:12. | :04:20. | |
50 to one favourites, Wigan 34, London zero. Total domination in | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
every aspect of the game for Wigan, they took their opportunities. The | :04:25. | :04:30. | |
halfbacks took the ball to the line and held the defence. The execution | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
was very, very good, far too many missed opportunities for Broncos | :04:35. | :04:45. | |
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early on, and a lack of discipline, more than a platform to make the | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
final now. We have got a good grip on the game, we hope to do the same | :04:51. | :04:57. | |
again in the second half. What was the key to dominance? The forwards | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
defended well. They broke as a couple of times but we were strong. | :05:01. | :05:11. | |
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He was saying that the forwards have absolutely battered their way | :05:14. | :05:18. | |
through that first half. That is the Wigan dressing room, a very happy | :05:18. | :05:25. | |
Wigan dressing room, 34-0 up at half-time. And it is more the | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
Broncos dressing room and what Tony Rea will be saying to his | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
shell-shocked, not Shell socked, shell-shocked players. There is | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
confirmation of the score at half-time, six tries for Wigan in | :05:40. | :05:50. | |
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be a very difficult team talk for Tony Rea. Before we started the | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
game, I talked about a perfect performance. They're ill discipline | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
giving away penalties is a reflection on technique. If you go | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
through their play, they are not giving themselves an opportunity. At | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
the start of the game, I thought they would start with a slower | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
tempo, slowing the game down so it was not at a tempo to suit Wigan, | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
but they have tried to up their tempo, and we saw the two points | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
that they did not go for, they kicked into touch. I just feel that | :06:20. | :06:25. | |
statistics will be very interesting, they are usually an indication of | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
your effort and the quality of your effort, and every stat will be | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
dominated. They have inflicted on themselves at times. I do not think | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
Wigan were dominant early, but they brought them into the game, and then | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
they have absolutely ambushed them. We had a few tweets from people | :06:41. | :06:49. | |
before the match, this four-word for, impossible made possible. I do | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
not think that is going to happen! Wigan absolutely battered London. | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
And there have absolutely battered London, and yet London got off to an | :06:59. | :07:05. | |
OK first five or ten minutes. we talk about their good start, it | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
was really more that they just competed with Wigan in the first few | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
minutes. But what happened with Wigan is they got the ball, got into | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
good field position, and a really dangerous, some good kicking out of | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
dummy half from Tommy Lee sole London get good field position. But | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
following that, we talk about the energy battle in the changing rooms, | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
and that means preserving your own energy and making sure that you make | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
the other team defend as much as possible. London did not do that, | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
they conceded too many penalties, turned over the ball too much, and a | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
side as good as Wigan take advantage of that. That being said, London had | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
a couple of early opportunities to put the pressure on. We saw them | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
have a chance to go for the two, you said you would have gone for the two | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
to get on the scoreboard, Brian, even if it is 2-0 up, would you have | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
gone for that? I am not sure. Some people say keep the scoreboard | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
rolling, restart there. The way they were playing, London, they would not | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
be able to capitalise on those points. I reinforce what John said, | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
Wigan were quite nervous in the first ten minutes, did not execute | :08:14. | :08:18. | |
properly, gave them some free ball. What did London do? They handed it | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
straight back. That was more the pivotal error than the decide to | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
take two or not. And as soon as they got the dry, that released their | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
confidence. When you have been told you are going to win, you begin to | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
think, we have only got to do not to win. Look at the first try, | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
educational stuff. They have got two attackers and need help from their | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
marker, but they both go the same way. What compounds it even worse is | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
the pull-back, who has to go straight to the inside shoulder of | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
the ball carrier. He has to take away his time, so that lack of | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
communication and teamwork defensively was highlighted. At the | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
moment, there is the Wigan changing room once again. They do not look | :09:04. | :09:11. | |
particularly happy, considering they are 34-0 up, do they? Shaun Wane has | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
to instil some concentration, because in essence this game was won | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
for them, if nothing goes wrong. But what he wants is to keep the | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
complete performance going, executing and keeping their | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
discipline. That can be harder to achieve, so he is reinforcing the | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
message - listen, don't clock up, keep doing the things that have made | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
a successful. They are in the habit of doing this, he will be | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
reinforcing, we need to keep this working. Talking about the semifinal | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
of the Challenge Cup and the final. That is what they will be talking | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
about in the dressing room, the fact that they cannot drop their | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
intensity. If you switch off in a game that seems to be won, it can | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
take weeks to get that intensity back. Wigan will want to finish with | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
the intensity that they finished this first half with. Let's examine | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
that intensity, because it hit the Wigan intensity that has caused | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
these London penalties? By that, I mean fitness, pressure, wanting to | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
play the ball quickly. Those that cause London to slow it down | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
illegally? Their energy levels are down and technique is compromised | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
off the back of that, and then you give away more penalties, and it is | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
a vicious cycle that we talk about. When I set about the energy battle, | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
that is what I am talking about. It is very difficult to recover from | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
the energy you have expended, trying to control Wigan in that period. | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
Exiting your half, like Wigan were, they were given free rides with | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
penalties all the time. You do not want to repeat sets, you are | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
thinking, the bodies in motion by Wigan, creating more tackles, and | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
their technique has been poor. That has been the downfall. They will be | :10:54. | :11:00. | |
talking about that, London, because this could get embarrassing. Is it a | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
vicious circle? , you give away penalties, you make mistakes, and | :11:03. | :11:10. | |
you struggle to get a foothold. It is impossible to get back into the | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
game at that point. It is like tennis, you both want to get on the | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
baseline to return the ball. At the moment, Wigan are coming into the | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
net and hitting winners. You say it is like tennis, and Brian is in | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
between the two of you going like that from side to side! Australia | :11:27. | :11:36. | |
versus England here! O'Loughlin, look, he is the best 13 in the game, | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
and amongst the players he is revered as the best team player. He | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
has had a captain's Nokia today, everything he has done, he has been | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
square and direct. Rockne, to me, he has said, listen, I am a good | :11:50. | :11:56. | |
player, but I need to show you that I am a great player today. He is | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
trying to off-load it and has not had the opportunity. We talk about | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
good ball, attacking the opposition line. He has not had that, but the | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
captains dug up, Rodney, and he has been one of many players that have | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
contributed to their downfall. mentioned in commentary, we know | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
that the hits that O'Loughlin can put in, you kind of highlighted his | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
creativity in commentary. He a world-class player, I cannot | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
emphasise that enough. He bend his back but make passes at the line as | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
well as any half in the game. He released Charnley on the fringes, | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
bumping somebody else in the process, using his physical aspect | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
and prowess as well. He has the quality and skill to find the past. | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
I cannot give him enough plaudits, he is a super player, but he has the | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
ability to do the tough stuff as well. The Benz is back, as though | :12:47. | :12:54. | |
all the Wigan team. -- he bends his back. Ben Flower did the same, | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
compromising the London line all the time. They have got real energy off | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
the bench, Flower was fantastic, a really hard player to tackle. He | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
played with Smith a number of times, getting back to the inside shoulder, | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
playing the ball quickly, and a number of the Wigan tries came off | :13:11. | :13:16. | |
the back of his carries. He made a big difference towards the back end | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
of that hard. Talking about family times he touches the ball, | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
O'Loughlin, we must tell the viewers it is not just about touching the | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
ball, it is where you go on the defensive line. He runs square and | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
holds the defence, and that is why they are getting so much space. | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
Look, this is one of the captain's great roles, if we watching, | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
everything leads out of his hands, the way the defence, had off his | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
line. That is where he inspires people. Wigan will feel that they | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
have one foot in the Challenge Cup final, they will not feel they are | :13:52. | :14:02. | |
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definitely there yet. Who will they 5:45pm here on BBC Two tomorrow | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
evening. Let's talk to a former Warrington player, Jonathan Davies, | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
on the other side of the field in the commentary box. If Warrington | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
reproduce the form they showed in that quarterfinal against | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
Huddersfield, they are likely to be at Wembley, and they? It's difficult | :14:22. | :14:32. | |
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to say. But I thought the catalyst was their defence. It was fantastic. | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
They built on that. When you've got a good defence, then you know you | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
will try and make the opportunity to score points. You have to fancy | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
Warrington, they've got some love affair going with the Challenge Cup | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
at the moment, as Wigan did in the 80s. Yes, they do go in as | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
favourites, but it will be a very interesting game and a lot closer | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
than people expect. But I just fancy the experience of Warrington will | :15:02. | :15:12. | |
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edge that. Cole work defensively, they were very good against Catalan. | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
-- Hull. They've been outstanding all year. Their bugbear has been not | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
getting fluency in their hearts and getting the right combination and | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
injuries. They bought a young player from Australia, it's been tough for | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
him, Daniel Holdsworth. Their outstanding kicker. That gives him a | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
lot of confidence. They can continue their good defence and back it up | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
with some tries, I think we are in for a great game tomorrow. We would | :15:41. | :15:51. | |
expect it to be closer than this tomorrow. Without doubt.We are on | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
air till 7pm on BBC Two, but then we have the forum on the red button. | :15:55. | :16:04. | |
Plenty talk about. Review this game with us. You can tweet us. You can | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
e-mail us as well. John and Ian and Brian will be with us for the forum | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
from 7pm on the red button. Now there is plenty of work for those | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
London players to do. Let's rejoin our commentary team for the second | :16:18. | :16:28. | |
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do need to play for their pride over the next 40 minutes. I'm sure we | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
will be seeing some records for semi-finals. I think so. They've | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
been told in a changing room, look, boys, keep possession, finish the | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
sets, do the basics well. Defend as well as you can and see what | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
happens. It will be, look, let's try and win the second half. It might be | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
a bit of a contest, but it's all about getting some respect and pride | :16:57. | :17:07. | |
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pushing up off these short passes. They are doing all the damage. | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
are just laying such a great platform for the halfbacks. | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
there you see one of the results of that platform, a magnificent kick | :17:43. | :17:53. | |
:17:53. | :18:31. | ||
not back in, they've got to get back right-hand side. Just didn't hold | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
their depth. Ian Thornley came in very well. They know there is going | :18:38. | :18:48. | |
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to be a play on. But the centre has of this Wigan team, he does all the | :19:06. | :19:16. | |
:19:16. | :19:56. | ||
experienced player. He has had success with Bradford and Hull KR in | :19:56. | :20:06. | |
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from this London team in the second half. That was good play. They just | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
didn't need that again. They ask questions of the Wigan defence and | :20:16. | :20:23. | |
they cut the line. It is frenetic rugby. They've just got to play for | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
possession. They've got to do something different, guys, because | :20:29. | :20:36. | |
they are 34 down. They will have to chance their arms somewhere. They | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
have to try and keep their possession. It is a balance between | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
chanting your arm and not throwing the miracle ball and just getting | :20:44. | :20:54. | |
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rooms. Wigan, a pleasing first half is the message from Shaun Wane. He | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
said it was a sluggish start, it took ten minutes to get into their | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
stride. In terms of London, they admit it's a massive void to make | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
up. The defence was porous. They really need to establish themselves | :21:15. | :21:25. | |
:21:25. | :21:25. | ||
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds | :21:25. | :22:15. | |
from that line. Tomkins weighing up on the line. There's not many | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
semifinal games where you can actually enjoy it, knowing there's a | :22:21. | :22:29. | |
massive prize of a Wembley final. That was one of my goals, to play | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
and win at a challenge Cup Final. I played but didn't win there. Every | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
rugby league player coming up through the age groups wants to play | :22:39. | :22:46. | |
in Wembley, in the Challenge Cup Final. When you get a chance to play | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
in a semi-final, usually means it's not really enjoyable because it's | :22:50. | :23:00. | |
:23:00. | :23:14. | ||
such a big prize at the end of it. Dewsbury. We were getting battered. | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
There's a lot of nerves about a semifinal. There's a lot of nerves | :23:19. | :23:28. | |
:23:29. | :23:29. | ||
Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds | :23:29. | :24:18. | |
hear from some of these London think that was high. I don't think | :24:18. | :24:28. | |
that was a penalty, was it? chance. It's just an opportunity for | :24:28. | :24:36. | |
the touch judge to come on and show he's on TV today! I think he's hard | :24:36. | :24:46. | |
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done to there. No one else spotted not your day it's not your taste. -- | :24:57. | :25:07. | |
:25:07. | :25:27. | ||
Taylor. That's too easy. A penalty that goes against you, they go too | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
far back in the penalty because they work guessing that Wigan were going | :25:33. | :25:39. | |
to kick the touch. Mossop makes about 25 yards. This is the tackle | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
which was not a high tackle. Then they got so far back, look how much | :25:44. | :25:53. | |
of a try Mossop did. A very tired lung -- London Broncos defence. | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
is the sheer power of this pack. Everyone of them, it's taking two or | :25:58. | :26:08. | |
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in respect of the penalty that wasn't a penalty. That's his sixth | :26:21. | :26:29. | |
goal of the afternoon, his 16th point of the match. Wigan, 40-0. I | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
really do think that we could be looking around somewhere of that | :26:33. | :26:42. | |
figure of 1992 semifinal, when it was 71-10 for Wigan against | :26:42. | :26:51. | |
Bradford? How dare you mention it! That's twice, I'm putting a claim in | :26:51. | :27:01. | |
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Broncos is Jamie O'Callaghan. O'Loughlin made a world-class | :27:30. | :27:40. | |
:27:40. | :27:54. | ||
decision there. It epitomises the came across there. Good play from | :27:54. | :28:04. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds | :28:04. | :29:01. | |
ragged here. Desperate tackling by the London Broncos. He is in! A | :29:01. | :29:09. | |
beautiful try! The darting run, the instant sidestep, in at the side of | :29:09. | :29:18. | |
the post. Wonderful halfback play from this lard. -- lad. That's just | :29:18. | :29:28. | |
:29:28. | :29:30. | ||
a vision of a tired defence. They are falling off tackles everywhere. | :29:30. | :29:38. | |
I think it's Matt Cook who gets caught here. He takes on the inside | :29:38. | :29:48. | |
:29:48. | :29:58. | ||
and leaves him for pace and breaking a line, as a full-back you | :29:58. | :30:05. | |
haven't got much chance. Richards will be welcoming all this | :30:05. | :30:15. | |
:30:15. | :30:38. | ||
seven? The Wigan fans are massed must be close to the record now, | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
eight scored in a semifinal, I think. Well, let's just have a cat | :30:43. | :30:53. | |
:30:53. | :30:53. | ||
this footwork from Smith, Jonathan. As Brian said, the isolated prop, | :30:53. | :30:59. | |
you see him cutting inside, very good finish. Yes, you are quite | :30:59. | :31:05. | |
right about the record. The record number of points was in that 71-10 | :31:05. | :31:12. | |
defeat at Bradford by Wigan in 1992. The former all Black and Wigan | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
full-back has the record. I do not know whether Brian members it or | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
not. Let me just pick up on that! thought we would put this one to bed | :31:22. | :31:32. | |
:31:32. | :31:38. | ||
if Wigan played well enough today, position, 74%. The Broncos, 26! | :31:38. | :31:43. | |
the guys were saying at half-time, if you try to fix things, you go | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
back to where you are, all of a sudden you find yourself lower. You | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
try harder to go higher and find yourself lower, you cannot get out | :31:50. | :32:00. | |
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are, the stats, second-half possession, 79%! You cannot hope to | :32:10. | :32:17. | |
win a game. Territory, 73%.Goodness me! Let's see what they can do with | :32:17. | :32:27. | |
:32:27. | :32:28. | ||
this set of six. Who will inspire this London side? Ben Fisher trying | :32:28. | :32:36. | |
to push O'Callaghan down that side. We have not seen figures like that | :32:36. | :32:46. | |
:32:46. | :33:18. | ||
on a month's loan from Wigan to the Broncos. Well taken by Charlie! I | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
thought he had a chance, I thought he saw a gap. So did he, he thought | :33:23. | :33:33. | |
:33:33. | :34:08. | ||
Tomkins is away! He has beaten three already, beautiful pass, one-handed! | :34:08. | :34:15. | |
Oh, he has lost it! Wonderful rugby! He just could not hold the | :34:15. | :34:21. | |
ball at the last minute. But sensational running. He is just | :34:21. | :34:26. | |
picking them off now, coming into the game when he wants. He spots the | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
tired forwards on the side of the ruck. Just watching, this is the end | :34:29. | :34:39. | |
:34:39. | :35:02. | ||
clever. That is a very good rule change, that is. There is the knock | :35:02. | :35:08. | |
on, it is a free play, before the new law he would have held that any | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
hand and not tried it. But he now knows that is a free play, and if he | :35:13. | :35:19. | |
does not score, the ball goes back for a scrum. The Broncos mascot just | :35:19. | :35:29. | |
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about says it all. He looks upset. the skill, the skill in this pass by | :36:03. | :36:12. | |
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Lough Erne. -- O'Loughlin. Total dominance, Brian, but that is | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
special, a special skill. Yes, and it's just emphasises the fact that | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
he has got everything in his locker, he can play tough, carried the | :36:22. | :36:32. | |
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ball. Look at that! That is class, that is class. Watch it again. That | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
is great. He spots the winner coming in, and if he catches that, he gets | :36:38. | :36:44. | |
nailed, man and ball. With the pace on the ball, he just put his hands | :36:44. | :36:54. | |
:36:54. | :37:14. | ||
onto it, increases the pace, and attempts at GCSE maths, but I make | :37:14. | :37:22. | |
it that he has now equalled the... Hang on, Ray, I will pick you up | :37:22. | :37:32. | |
:37:32. | :37:36. | ||
there, I do not think you were doing around, it looked like it was going | :37:36. | :37:41. | |
right across the face of the posts, but Pat Richards kicks in a cracker | :37:41. | :37:50. | |
of a goal. Just watch this pass from behind, right? Brilliant from | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
O'Loughlin. He has one step to get rid of him, and he saw it two plays | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
earlier. He picks somebody out and got the ball back to where he wanted | :37:59. | :38:07. | |
it. The best thing about that, he executed the play. 08 goals to Pat | :38:07. | :38:17. | |
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tackles made 60, 110. It is a very testing every ounce of the reserves | :38:37. | :38:41. | |
of the strength of the London Broncos site. Wigan are making their | :38:41. | :38:47. | |
tackles count, and Wigan's attacking prowess will mean the London players | :38:47. | :38:51. | |
do not even lay a hand on them to miss a tackle. Just look at this one | :38:51. | :39:01. | |
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here, Thornley, all 6-foot four of at half-time, their intensity is | :39:07. | :39:14. | |
what he will be pleased about. if it is 0-0 or 20 up, they still | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
complete their sets, put the right kick in, make the right decision at | :39:17. | :39:27. | |
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ground, but they are on the last Child. Oh, yes, just. A good | :39:57. | :40:07. | |
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of beer! The halfbacks again for Wigan, Liam Farrell, back in the | :40:42. | :40:51. | |
side, a good second row! The former Wigan Saint Patrick is a matter, now | :40:51. | :40:57. | |
heading for the England World Cup side. -- amateur. Again, it is the | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
decision-making on the pass, they create the overlap, just watch the | :41:01. | :41:11. | |
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Tomkins. He spots the winger coming in, puts Richards into space. He | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
does not decide to take the last defender on. And then great support | :41:21. | :41:31. | |
:41:31. | :41:47. | ||
office for Tony Rea, very little he can do about it. He knows the | :41:47. | :41:51. | |
difference in strength and pace and quality between these two sides. | :41:51. | :41:56. | |
Very little he can do. It just shows, really, the difference | :41:56. | :42:06. | |
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between the top and the bottom of goal-kicking. No hint of any breeze | :42:11. | :42:21. | |
:42:21. | :42:24. | ||
around, he has got derailed that today. Another one from Pat | :42:24. | :42:34. | |
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Richards. 58-0, and that last half a smile on his face. It is the | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
execution again, playing so close to the line, the halfbacks, tight, | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
opening up, preserving space on the fringes, rather than creating it | :42:43. | :42:47. | |
with the straight line is that the halfbacks play. It is an easy score | :42:47. | :42:57. | |
:42:57. | :43:12. | ||
in the end, really created in and again, giving penalties away. It is | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
a tough challenge to try to change the mentality and change the aspect | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
of the game, it is a tough one. eighth penalty conceded by the | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
Broncos. Because they are winning the tackle, and they? Very powerful, | :43:26. | :43:36. | |
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Playing the ball early, bringing man Thornley again, he is strong, | :44:11. | :44:18. | |
and he powers in again. The passing in the middle of the field is too | :44:18. | :44:28. | |
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much, too fast, too slick for the their repertoire of players they | :44:37. | :44:47. | |
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somebody like they took off Thornley there... They take the ball to the | :44:57. | :45:02. | |
line, they hope the inside defence and then they are isolated out wide. | :45:02. | :45:07. | |
That's a very easy tribal Thornley. Very difficult for the wings and the | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
full-back. But they've got to communicate, they both went for the | :45:10. | :45:18. | |
same man there. I feel they've thrown the towel in bit now. This | :45:18. | :45:24. | |
could now be any score. I do feel that the last couple of tries, they | :45:24. | :45:34. | |
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now are tiring badly. They just can't keep this Wigan attack out. | :46:06. | :46:16. | |
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You get tired when you are winning 64-0. Not when you are losing. | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
Wigan are still confident. Don't forget, we've got another semifinal | :46:20. | :46:30. | |
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tomorrow. Hull FC versus Warrington. They've got to keep it for six | :46:45. | :46:55. | |
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Super League. It's important they do and show some of the things that all | :47:02. | :47:08. | |
we can practice Tony Rea and the players were working on. Put your | :47:08. | :47:18. | |
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got support? Oh! A little bit of over eagerness therefrom Liam | :48:06. | :48:16. | |
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Farrell. He was wanting to run off there was a point between the two | :48:57. | :49:03. | |
sides. That's important for Wigan and their coach. When you are a | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
champion team like Wigan are, they are looking to do everything | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
absolutely perfectly. They've shown aggression, they've shown bigger, | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
when they've lost the ball they've whacked London so hard that they've | :49:14. | :49:19. | |
got the ball back. That's why London haven't progressed up the field. | :49:19. | :49:25. | |
Here is a chance! Two metres short. A good tackle by Mcllorum. Broncos | :49:25. | :49:35. | |
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you are in the latter stages. They will play against very good sides. | :49:48. | :49:53. | |
This is the area where you want to keep that intensity and pace going. | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
More importantly, keep the concentration going. Mistakes come | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
when you are tired, so they will try and push themselves to play to the | :50:01. | :50:11. | |
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really emerging in this Wigan pack. Harrison Hansen, at 64-0, he's | :50:39. | :50:49. | |
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arguing with the referee there about both winners and losers. It's very | :50:56. | :51:06. | |
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breather. They are not too bothered run. He is a very solid hooker, | :52:05. | :52:15. | |
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on the outside wide. Wonderful slip of a pass from Goulding there. | :52:28. | :52:38. | |
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good understanding. As soon as the ball went to the right hand on its | :52:46. | :52:55. | |
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and they get the ricochet back to right. Charnley just has to come | :53:14. | :53:24. | |
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the ball well. Delight on those match, Pat Richards has scored 28 | :55:38. | :55:41. | |
points. Matty Smith has been brilliant. For me, head and | :55:41. | :55:47. | |
shoulders above everyone today, has been Sean O'Loughlin. He has been | :55:47. | :55:57. | |
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superb. He has launched so many forwards down the middle. He has | :55:58. | :56:08. | |
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taken the ball to them line. He's have been the standouts. Can the | :56:15. | :56:25. | |
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determinedly as they were in the doesn't go to Jamie Soward. A metre | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
short, but that's the professionalism of this side, | :57:45. | :57:55. | |
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tackling for their dear lives. It's heads up, I think Tommy Lee has had | :58:05. | :58:15. | |
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a decent game today. But he won't be of six... That man might well | :58:46. | :58:51. | |
smile, it has been a record-breaking day for him. The most points ever in | :58:51. | :59:01. | |
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a semifinal. Can Wigan grab this one Wigan have made today! I think that | :59:13. | :59:17. | |
shortcake was supposed to go a bit further for Pat Richards. That's | :59:17. | :59:27. | |
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probably the only piece of poor player. The last seconds ticking | :59:42. | :59:52. | |
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down. Can the Broncos snatch one appearance in an amazing 30th Cup | :00:06. | :00:12. | |
Final. They won't want this year 's Tetleys Challenge Cup Final two end | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
up like that last one after beating the Broncos. 70-0. That is some | :00:18. | :00:26. | |
scoreline. They were too good for them, they started badly and got | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
worse. Their discipline was they were too good for them, they started | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
badly and got worse. Their discipline was poor, they made too | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. Poor, they made too | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. You know, it was a | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
bit of a one horse you know, it was a bit of a one horse race race | :00:39. | :00:49. | |
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and I am sure already Yes, happy days for this Wigan side, and I am | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
sure already that Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
Warrington in the second semifinal at Huddersfield tomorrow night. That | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling Warrington in | :00:59. | :01:09. | |
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the second semifinal at Huddersfield congratulations, how does it feel to | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
be going to Wembley again? It feels fantastic, Shaun Wane, the Wigan | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
coach, congratulations, how does it feel to be going to Wembley again? | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
It feels fantastic, we lost last year after playing poorly. We lost | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
last year after playing poorly. We were outstanding today. Contract we | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
were outstanding today. Compare and compare and contrast with last year. | :01:32. | :01:42. | |
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match is here, Sean O'Loughlin congratulations, the man of the | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
match is here, Sean O'Loughlin, congratulations. What was the key to | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
the victory today? , congratulations. What was the key to | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
the victory today? We got off to a really good start, settled into the | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
game We got off to a really good start, settled into the game. It was | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
always going to be a struggle for London to come back. . It was always | :02:07. | :02:17. | |
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going to be a struggle for London to the moment the Wigan players down | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
below us at the moment are on their lap of honour. Are on their lap of | :02:53. | :03:03. | |
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honour. The players are staying back say after a semifinal like that, and | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
we will talk with Ian Millward and Brian Noble shortly There are all | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
sorts of things we can say after a semifinal like that, and we will | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
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talk with Ian Millward and Brian it means to him, because last year | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
semifinal hit him hard. Let's start with Shaun Wane and what it means to | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
him, because last year semifinal hit him hard. Whenever you lose one, you | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
want to put some structures in place and learn from your mistakes. | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
Whenever you lose one, you want to put some structures in place and | :04:31. | :04:41. | |
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were too good for them, they started badly and got Without those people | :04:59. | :05:06. | |
we wouldn't have it. The fans here today, they were vocal. You can see | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
what it meant to them, Wembley. They want to get back there and walk up | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
the Wembley walk. The big thing is you've got to maintain that for the | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
final. Pat Richards, most points in a semifinal, the biggest winning | :05:23. | :05:29. | |
margin in a semifinal as well today. Josh Charnley has hit a | :05:29. | :05:39. | |
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personal milestone with 100 tries the club, what does that feel like? | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
It's a massive honour. It was a childhood dream to play for Wigan. | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
To get the jersey and pick up 100 tries is good as well. What does the | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
Challenge Cup mean to you? It's massive. We want to win all the | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
trophies we can get. We fell short last year. We have bounced back well | :06:03. | :06:10. | |
and we are going to Wembley. does the fantastic support spur you | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
on? It gives you a bit of a lift. When you feel a bit tired and you | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
hear them screaming, it gives you a buzz. Congratulations, keep scoring | :06:19. | :06:28. | |
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The Wigan fans haven't got that far to get home. That is something that | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
a few of you have tweeted about. We will talk about the venue for this | :06:35. | :06:41. | |
semifinal during the forum at 7pm on the red button. The players continue | :06:41. | :06:51. | |
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what does that mean to you individually? That's the reason why | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
I came to Wigan, to play in big games. To get to Wembley, one step | :06:55. | :06:59. | |
away from lifting the trophy is massive for me and the team. What do | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
you think went well for you as a team today? I thought we started a | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
bit jittery, but our defence turns up week in week out. We work in our | :07:10. | :07:20. | |
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defence. I think that went over the line today. We ended up scoring a | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
few good tries. Sean O'Loughlin, a fantastic performance today, how | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
much of a leader is he for you and how much does he inspire you on? | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
He's a massive inspiration. We miss him when he's out. We missed him | :07:39. | :07:48. | |
last week. He came back today and played really well. We said he was a | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
world-class performer who would not go amiss in any team, and still have | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
the luxury to bring him back, a captain of that ilk, it is pivotal | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
for this team. He said, he is our leader, we look up to him. When it | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
gets tough, do you know what? He placed up. When it is easy, he still | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
plays tough! He has been instrumental in everything that | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
Wigan have done today, carrying the ball up the line with his passing | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
skills, following Ben Flower, he got the play at the end, taking two or | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
three people out. He bashes him like he is not there. He has the vision, | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
while he is still running and bumping people off, to know that he | :08:29. | :08:35. | |
has players on the outside. Great execution of the past. In everything | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
he does, he preserves space on the outside for people to finish it off. | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
If it does not matter if he is going square, he commits and preserves the | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
space, and he must be a joy to play outside. It is that combination of | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
physical presence, hulking physical presence, and yet deft hands as | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
well. He is the consummate rugby league player, it is a group or | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
game, that element of subtlety... Here we see Smith finish off a | :09:03. | :09:13. | |
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player, what he and says, this is just subliminal. He should be on | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
O'Loughlin, the defender. He comes on. That is a skill in itself, and | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
flicking the ball on, don't grab for the ball. Look, they got a lot of | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
confidence as the game went on. Matty Smith, one of the things that | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
players say, he should run the ball more, and they gave him that | :09:30. | :09:37. | |
luxury, London. What I like about the end of that, Pat Richards scores | :09:37. | :09:44. | |
the try, but all the players go to high-5 and slap O'Loughlin. | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
called the play two plays before it happened, he knew he had an | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
opportunity with the numbers on the left-hand side, and then to execute | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
the play as well, I think that is why everybody feeds of his end-users | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
and knowledge of the game. We are looking at the Wigan dressing room, | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
a discussion going on about how much of Josh Charnley we can show, | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
because we are not quite sure if he has got any pants on. He has, says | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
the relieved voice in my year! We are scrutinising that band right in | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
the middle to see how many clothes a has got on. Let's talk about his | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
100th try instead. He gets great service from the inside from a lot | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
of people, but it is his ability to sense what is going to happen. The | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
drags his defender out. When you get to the touchline, if you're defender | :10:32. | :10:40. | |
stays out, you come in. If he goes in, you stay out. He stays out, now, | :10:40. | :10:48. | |
he understands now, Charnley has great instincts. His positional play | :10:48. | :10:55. | |
is very good. To be fair, Darrell Goulding gave him a huge tip there. | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
That is a combination play that they have on that side. This is what it | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
meant to the Wigan dressing room, to be back at Wembley for their 30th | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
Challenge Cup final. They are celebrating, it will be a very | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
different reaction in the London dressing room. Let's hear from their | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
coach, Tony Rea is with David. Commiserations, you have been on the | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
end of a real hiding today. What are your thoughts and feelings at the | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
moment? We are obviously really shattered. It was not what we came | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
here to do today. We had really high hopes for what we were going to get | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
out of the game. Just a ridiculous penalty count against us. | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
Horrendous, we never got the ball, and I just thought there was a point | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
in the first half were wanting was going to crack, and I thought we had | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
a chance of being the one to crack them. But we lost our discipline, in | :11:52. | :11:57. | |
marking play and defence. Their plea to Wigan, they are a very good | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
team, they are bigger and better and more powerful and they steamrollers. | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
-- their play. For ten minutes you had a hold on the game. We have got | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
to understand and believe that, but we felt like we were not clear | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
enough in our eyes that was happening for us. It is tough in | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
these big games, you have got to be tough, and we were not tough enough. | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
Thank you for talking to us. He has been involved at every level | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
with London, in whatever form they have had, whatever name, and he | :12:28. | :12:38. | |
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one wants to see such a blow out. Wigan were clinical, they | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
scrutinised the London team, and they executed, they were intense. On | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
the other side of that, people challenge your commitment, challenge | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
your willingness to do well. It is so far from the truth, the effort | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
was there from London but they could not get a foothold in the game. | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
will talk more about London in the forum from seven o'clock on the red | :13:01. | :13:08. | |
button. Sam Tomkins. We talk about effort in the game, and his efforts | :13:08. | :13:18. | |
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could go sideways, I have got to say, he has got a quick twitch about | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
everything he does. He looks at that with instinct, he does not take an | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
eternity to do it. We have got a clip coming up, watch his balance | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
when he runs. I know they said this was a high tackle, but your coach | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
cannot tell you how to balance. He has this ability to slither out of | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
tackles when he runs. The players the right of him, that is what I | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
love about him. This is brilliant, this. This takes effort, behind the | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
ruck. He is the third last person to get the ball to create the try. They | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
cannot number up on him. You have to have attitude for that, and you have | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
to have vision, and you have to back it up with skill. If he stays on the | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
short side to hold the defender, four on four, he goes to the back, | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
but he has got the speed to get there. This is what he did at | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
half-time, he spoke to the players, one of their leaders for the Wigan | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
Warriors, and he is very close to the Challenge Cup. He cannot touch | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
it just yet, he is with John. great to be back from injury, what | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
an emphatic way to get through to the Challenge Cup final. Today, we | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
spoke all week about this being about our performance, and we knew | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
we would be favourites going into it, but London have got some strike | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
players we have to look after, and I think we did that pretty well. The | :14:42. | :14:48. | |
scoreboard showed that. With your balanced running style and the style | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
to have, you will fancy getting the trophy at Wembley. That is a way | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
away to be thinking about just yet, but we looking forward to Wembley. | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
We are lucky enough that a lot of the group were there in 2011 and won | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
it, one of the best days for all of us, and we spoke about that to the | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
other lads who have not experienced it. A lot of the lads have not been | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
involved in semifinals, and I know today was different, but it is great | :15:13. | :15:21. | |
to get that under our belt. something particularly special about | :15:21. | :15:27. | |
your outfit today. Tell us about your boots. It is the charity that | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
rugby league has got behind massively in the last 18 months. It | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
is for a young lad called Jack, he has Duchenne muscular dystrophy. | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
There is no cure for it. We are trying to raise as much money to go | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
into research and save not only Jack's life but a lot of other | :15:44. | :15:51. | |
people 's. I've been able to design my own boots and I had this idea | :15:51. | :15:58. | |
that came to me, why not have them for the charity? We used the colours | :15:58. | :16:05. | |
that we used on the kit last year and made this one pair. These will | :16:05. | :16:11. | |
be auctioned off. There's only one been made. Hopefully someone will | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
bid big. It's going to a great cause. People dig deep, plenty of | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
bids for those boots. Sam emphasising what fantastic | :16:21. | :16:31. | |
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ambassadors these guys are, myself the red button. We will be on the | :16:36. | :16:43. | |
red button from 7pm. Will the scoreline be something that we are | :16:43. | :16:50. | |
going to talk about quite a lot, do you think? I think it will be | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
mentioned, but I think it can be a catalyst for a lot of things for | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
catalyst for a lot of things for both teams. Looking at some of the | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
possessions, 73% possession for Wigan. I've never seen a team only | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
have 500 metres for a game. They gave themselves no opportunity here | :17:08. | :17:17. | |
today. I can see what -- I Tony Rea is shattered. This could be a | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
catalyst for Wigan as well. We will talk a lot about the consequences | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
for London, but this could always be big stuff for Wigan for what it has | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
created. We will be live on BBC Two tomorrow for the semifinal of | :17:34. | :17:44. | |
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are defending really well. They have a chance of creating an upset. But | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
Warrington are on fire at the moment, I'm going with Warrington. | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
Even though London bottom of Super League, whoever wins will face a | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
real test at Wigan. It will be a cracking final. Warrington are the | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
form team of Super League. If they repeat that tomorrow they will win, | :18:13. | :18:19. | |
which creates one mammoth game. know you sniggered at that but it is | :18:19. | :18:26. | |
sometimes difficult, a semifinal that is this one-sided, to work out | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
how dominant... I fully agree with you. They are a top team. A Wigan | :18:30. | :18:37. |