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Challenge Cup semifinal here in Leigh, it is Wigan Warriors against

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London Broncos, classic David versus Goliath, time to queue the anthemic

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 56 seconds

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music and put tongue firmly in brink of a remarkable achievement.

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By the end of next month, they could hold both football's FA Cup and the

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Challenge Cup as well. That will help those who are trying to make

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the town a city. As far as London are concerned, their whole future

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could rest on this evening's game. It has been a short journey for the

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Wigan fans, just eight miles to get from their town to hear at Leigh.

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For the London fans, though, a completely different proposition.

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From their home ground to year is a whopping 212 miles. It is the

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Challenge Cup semifinal weekend, Wigan against London this weekend,

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and then tomorrow we have Al against Warrington for you from 5:45pm. --

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Hull. And we want you to get in touch with us as well, you can

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e-mail us, and we want your four words to describe this game. We will

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do the forum from seven o'clock tonight on the red button. As you

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can see, Ian Millward, Brian Noble and Jon Wilkin are with me. We have

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said it is diverted against Goliath, are we giving them any hope, London?

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We have to give them hope, that is what the Challenge Cup is about,

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turning up for 80 minutes and producing a performance. It is

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significant, this club needs a win here to generate the interest.

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Wigan, as all top four teams, they have got their mind on the trophy,

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and that is what they have come to do. We will come onto the history

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and future of London in the forum a little bit later, but if they are to

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have a chance this afternoon, they have got to get off to a good start.

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It is crucially important for London. Wigan are now on. Think

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rushes in the middle of the field, the forwards are tenacious. -- Wigan

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are notoriously brochures in the middle of the field. If you do get

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off to a good start in a semifinal when you are the underdog, you can

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cause big problems. Wigan against Catalans in 2007. One of those days

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you don't need reminding of, but we will do it on national television!

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They blew us away in the first 20 minutes. Call it what you want, the

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belief in their own team, the job that Mick Potter did as coach, we

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could not handle them, it was too much of a hill to climb. But can

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that happen, if you are overwhelming favourites for a semifinal, that you

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can be laxer days ago in your start? I am not sure it will happen today,

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this Wigan team are really well prepared and focused on this game.

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There was not only one person with their head in their hands, not the

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best day, but you learn to live with them, and you learn from those

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things. The club will have learned from that as well, and it is really

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important, London have to really aim up at the start of this game, to

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make it one of those days whereby the bounce of the ball goes their

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way, and maybe a lack of execution, Wigan does not go down and they

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become nervous. Maybe London will take hope from the fact that Wigan

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are not in great form coming into this game here in Leigh. They have

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lost three of their last four in Super League, including on Monday

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Aaron Swift is over! Another one! Pat Richards is in at the corner!

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Korea and a wonderful pass, and here comes Charnley, and absolutely

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scintillating try! Pat Richards, what about that?! Unbelievable!

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Greenwood will score, he has won it for Saint Helens!

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Given the fierce rivalry between the two clubs, were you surprised that

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Shaun Wane left out two or three of the big names for that. Not at all,

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I think they would have played if they were 100% fit. The exciting

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thing for Wigan, coming into this game, regardless of that result,

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they have got two of the best players in their positions coming

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back into the team, and that will have a huge impact. For us, it was a

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really or inspiring performance, something we needed. We needed a

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lift this year, but to have the likes of Sam Tomkins coming back

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into the team, they have got two real game breakers in O'Loughlin and

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Tomkins, and they cannot be underestimated, their importance to

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this Wigan team, not only in terms of the way they play but their

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leadership off the field. Yes, they are both back today for Wigan. We

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saw in that montage but it is worth seeing again several times over and

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over, which is the Pat Richards drop goal. Not only the distance but the

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angle. This is still, but bereaved Lexus, to understand the situation

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in the game, anyone watching that will say he just dropped the field

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goal. -- this is guilt, but bereaved it, he can hit the ball on a fly

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from a dropout, 50 or 60 metres, change the tempo and momentum of a

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game straightaway with his kicks. Obviously, he has got a high

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percentage kicking. Wigan is not renowned for changing tempo, but

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this bloke can. Even as you saw it sailed over the posts, you must have

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had massive respect for that. that audacious, his technique was

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that quick, I did not see the ball bouncing on the ground. What a

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fantastic piece of skill, nearly changed the game for Wigan.

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Fortunately we came back. As the camera is on you, give me the face

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you pulled as you saw it go over! Something like that. That is a

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television natural, I am telling you. Let's hear from both coaches

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talking to Damian Johnson. Overwhelming favourites, the bookies

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are not often wrong, but are you concerned about Wigan's form?

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all, we had a good performance against Widnes, but in a cup

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semifinal there are no favourites. Regardless of league position,

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London can play on any given day. For 80 minutes, we need to be at our

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best. No shying away from the fact that it is an important game, a

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wonderful opportunity to work really hard to get to moments like this. It

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has been an enjoyable week, so we want still have a few more.

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rested a few last night, everybody fit? We have had a great week, the

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players are really looking forward to it, and we will show London the

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respect they deserve, a quality team, well coached by Tony Rea, and

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we are confident in our abilities but we will be showing them respect.

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Missing some key players. We have got 17 blokes, those are the ones we

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are thinking about. Let's talk about the players that are in, as Tony Rea

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wants us to do, rather than the ones that are missing. How can the ones

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that are missing. How canny a move to bring in Soward for this

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campaign? Is not only what they want to do on the field, but off the

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field, and they have got to a situation where they got through the

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quarterfinals. They have beaten Bradford on the way, and they have

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got this situation in bringing Jamie over, he has played State of origin,

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NRL, he is a run of the ball. It gives you all the attributes you

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need in the semifinal of the Challenge Cup where he can dominate

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the game. Look, I spoke to him before the game, he is not here to

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have fun. He would love to be in the Challenge Cup final, and he is here

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to make an impact. The big impact is going to make is run the ball, and

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that is what he does when he plays well. It has been criticised in the

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past for not running the ball, but he will have a massive effect. All

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the kicking game will be on him and the running game. He can play, no

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doubt about that. You do not play origin football unless you are a

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world-class player. I mention at the start of the programme, unless he

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gets the grounding, he can kick the ball and bring his bounce I back, it

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will be difficult for him. With more on this man who was so crucial to

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London, here is John. Very few people have given London a chance

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today, fans, pundits, broadcasters. For London to do well against Wigan,

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they need a couple of players to have a massive impact. One such

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player is this man over year, Jamie Soward, who has been brought over

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from the NRL to bring some magic to this London team with his passing,

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with his kicking, all of his distribution talents and creative

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input. I will tell you what, if he has a good game today, this is as

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good an opportunity for London to get to the Challenge Cup final as I

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have seen. Every doesn't have an involvement, the reason he will not

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be involved is because the Wigan pack as dominated London, they are

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young and aggressive, very hard to stop, trust me, I have played

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against them many times! Was he being overdramatic to say that

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London's future could rest on this game? Yes. There has been a lot of

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speculation in the press, and this is a one-off semifinal, and they

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will be hoping to get over the line and beat a good Wigan side. If they

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get to the final, the world is their oyster. It is a big game in those

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terms, but I think their future is secure, going forward, and bringing

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people like Jamie Soward in, it is not a gimmick, they have made a

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statement as to what they want to do with the club. They have only had

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one final appearance, back in 1999. Did they fail to capitalise on that?

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We can always look back at history, but they had a lot of Australians in

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their team, a lot of non-English there, and today they have tried to

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put together a team not just of Australians. They spent the full

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side recap, so it is not that they are short of money. My great friend

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Graham Murray coached leads, and they jumped out to a good start,

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something that London have got to do today. Leeds were too strong, they

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were more dominant and patient. That is where Shaun Wane will be looking

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today, patients even if you do not start well. If they fire today, they

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have got a chance, but looking at the Wigan pack, young and athletic,

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big and strong, very disciplined, it will be tough today, no doubt about

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it, but that is what cup draws are all about. You talk about starting

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well, London, they usually start well. Sometimes when you are

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expected to win, you can be nervous and not play to your full potential,

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so they have to still go for the top shelf today with everything they

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do, other ways they can fall into the habit of chasing the game.

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saw in that 1999 final, a young Iestyn Harris leading Leeds out, he

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is now assistant coach here at Wigan, a side who have plenty of

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Challenge Cup history. Their Challenge Cup record is one of

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domination. They have reached more finals than anyone else, 29, and one

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player alone has won the cup with them nine times, the great Shaun

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Edwards. Their last win was in 2011, a 28-18 win over Leeds, and

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that means they are now up to 18 wins in the Cup. Surely their record

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of eight in a row by the great team will never be surpassed. Do you

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think that history help these players or it weighs heavily on them

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at times? What the previous players at the club have done is create a

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pathway for the current team to follow. There is a recipe for

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success at whatever club you are out. Everybody is fighting to get

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that recipe right. Wigan have historically got that right in the

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cup. Clubs like Saint Helens and Bradford have, but Wigan have a real

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strong tradition with the Challenge Cup. That's got to be a positive for

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them. We've talked about Jamie Soward, Ian, you've look that where

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this game could be settled elsewhere in a head-to-head battle. Two very

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imposing forwards. Sean O'Loughlin has got a lot more, he is

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influential in whatever they do. influential in whatever they do.

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influential in whatever they do. That is a high step. The average

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metres are very good. He has to rise up today if he's going to make an

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impact. Own Laughlin has 22 passes, as many as a halfback would do.

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Rodney, he relies on tackle and hard running. Sean O'Loughlin is a

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leader. Rodney, he needs to inspire his team because he has all the

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instructions. A man who's done so much for London over the years in

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the club, in all its different guises. It's a big afternoon for

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those two men. Huge day. He deserves all the plaudits anyone can give

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him. But today is a one-off. I'm wondering if Tony Rea has a few

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tricks up his sleeve. He might do something different in the game to

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swing the game his way. How will he stop Wigan's main threat? Josh

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Charnley's record for Wigan, 98 tries in 90 appearances. How did you

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stop him? It's very difficult. A lot of what Wigan does is create space

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for Charnley on the edge. A lot of Charnley's tries have come off the

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back of Sean O'Loughlin creating that pass initially. When you couple

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that with space, strength, speed and confidence, that is why he is

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scoring so many tries. I think his confidence has been his real

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attribute over the last couple of seasons. He has grown and to become

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a real personality in the game. Tomkins, when he goes to the left,

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he likes to step off his left foot and come back in. He is a prolific

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scorer. I've been really impressed with him. He goes really well. Sean

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O'Loughlin is a world-class player as well. Along with Jamie Soward. He

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would feature in any team in the world. I think he's really

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influential in this team. Just in the corner, that's where he is,

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Tomkins is with him. Charnley just off to put his shirt on. Another

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Wigan legend looking on, Billy Boston. Tomorrow we've got

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Warrington against Hull. We want you to get in touch with us as well.

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Tweet us. Four words to describe the game. Brian, Ian and John will be

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staying with us when we do the four word forum after 7pm, which you will

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be able to watch on the red button. Charnley still hasn't got his shirt

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on. Brian now has to dash using legendary pays across this pitch to

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for those players to emerge. The Wigan Warriors 13, very, very strong

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indeed. Almost at full strength. Yes. For the Broncos, very simple,

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keep the ball, good kicking game and a good defence. Hang on in there.

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When the opportunities come, take them. Do the basics very well and

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keep calm. Not a great number of support from London, but the

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faithful fans are here. I was speaking to some of them before

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kick-off. They were all asking, can they do it? Well, who knows? I've

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seen big shocks in my time, some of players and seasoned English lads in

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the Broncos side. But the expansion of the game in London can be seen in

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the likes of McMeeken in that line-up. The referee, Phil Bentham.

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A very experienced Super League referee. We are all set for the

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first 2013 semifinal of the Tetleys it. I've never known odds like that!

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the final at Wembley Stadium on Saturday, August 24. As usual, the

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BBC will be there. Penalty. Oh, it's a scrum down. That is a big mistake.

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It gives very good position for Wigan to attack. London needed to

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keep hold of the ball in these early stages. Just joining us is Mr Noble.

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That's the last thing they need. It wasn't a knock-on. Wigan will try to

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wondering, what is it? He's lost it. I think we should explain. The

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advantage rule, you can play on but you must take advantage. There was

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no advantage taken there. Had to make the tackle. I think it was

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Rhodri Lloyd. He had to make a tackle and did very well. He did

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well. Unfortunately he jammed the ball as well, but he had to take the

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them. They always run the same plays in most games, Wigan, but how do you

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stop them? They created the overlap on the first attack and only a

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desperate tackle stopped it. Rhodri runner-up in the Challenge Cup with

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Hull a few years back. A good press little bit there. He knew the ploy,

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he just maybe was a bit too forward in the movement not to give the

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catch and give. I think Tony Rea will have come out of that opening

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with some confidence. I agree. Three sets, in essence. Credit to London.

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They have to complete the set and about, Jamie Soward. Always with

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that head guard on. Good, long kick. A testing kick. I understand

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we can hand down to Damien. A slight breeze taking the edge off the

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temperatures down here, but it is sweltering. The Wigan team have an

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air conditioning unit for the dressing room just to take the edge

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off. So no stone left unturned as they plot a route to Wembley.

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been interesting this year, Brian, I've noticed a lot of dropped

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football in this weather. A lot of sweat. The ball gets wet and it is

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difficult to handle. When it's got that way, we've seen a lot of games

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that have been scrappy and error ridden because of the wetness on the

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ball. There's been an edict gone round for information in the last

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week about certain players wetting the ball. They've obviously picked

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up on that fact as well. I've seen it done many a time! This catches

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him on the back of the bonds and condition. There's a penalty for

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stealing the ball. Is immaculate. I would rather play in these

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conditions than a December night. far corner. I think he will need

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more than two points. The Broncos with their first attacking... Luke

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was in that they must semifinal against Catalans Dragons. A good

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ball out to Soward. Terrific from I think it's a knock-on from the

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London Broncos, which is unlucky. His armies over the top. Luke Dorn,

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Broncos are trying to do. They are going to go wide. They realise they

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can't make much of this Wigan side, especially the pack, so they will

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put a bit of wit on it and try to go can't go lateral all the time. The

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intent is there to go wide. There's been a lot of silly talk about this

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Broncos side. Don't forget, they have some talented players who have

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played in finals, Robinson... Six wall! Try and run into space and

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That is Kaufusi and Bryant, two grand finalists from the NRL leading

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the way with the quality of their carries. Good positioning of the

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ball there. As we said, if they do the basics well, control possession

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and put the tackles in, then anything could happen. Everyone

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expects Wigan to run away and have a good start. That is a penalty, yes,

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he was ripping it out. That is not going to help, because this is now

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going to give them field position. That is a very good kick, giving

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through! Magnificent stuff! They just switched off then, didn't they?

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The short side just switched off, and Darrell Goulding has exploited.

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He did not need the winger. There we the same way. The gap opens up, and

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it is very difficult for the full-back to make the tackle. But

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poor defence. This is a sucker punch. Too much of an opportunity

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for a quality player like Darrell Goulding, smart player, smart

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footwork, not so smart by the Broncos. One of the young Wigan lads

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coming through the academy. It is a very good finish, but you cannot

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switch off, that mark-up. They have to communicate, they both went the

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same way, and it was so easy for Golding. In a Challenge Cup

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will not score an easier tried this season. London are really frustrated

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with that. That can cause an emotional balance, Ray, when you

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make such case in full mistake. coach, you know how many tries come

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from silly penalties like that one. It is communication, Ray, you have

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defended well, had a bit of pressure. You have soaked up three

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sets of six, and a simple mistake, a lack of communication, which you do

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whatever he has got left. Very good field position, they have lost it by

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poor attention. Bad mistake by happy with it. Just a reminder of

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what he said, it will be difficult to get field position against this

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Wigan team. It is not the recipe you need, you have to take everything

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they are going to give you today. They were three points adrift at the

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bottom of Super League. Of course, Wigan are in second position. They

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are looking for a league and Cup double. Great difference between the

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two sites, but in rugby it is all of London have done very well

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defensively. Once Wigan go to the edges, we will see their full

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potential. Yes, I think we have seen them creating opportunities, two

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really good hits. They have two prolific wingmen as scorers. Broncos

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in possession, trying to get into They have just given a penalty away

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and field position. It is the element of discipline, they do not

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want Wigan to get on a roll, that is what they are worried about, and

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that is why they are messing about a little bit longer in the ruck.

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O'Loughlin looks full support and isn't it? Well, they are not having

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to work too hard to get out of their own half and find some field

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position. 15 minutes in, Izzy going for gold? That is a bit of respect

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for the London Broncos. I thought, eight points, they would need to

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score twice. Quite surprised by that decision, Ray. Well, I am not, in a

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match like this. I do not think teams these days go for goal kicks

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enough, I mean, this is no different from when you will remember, they

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used to give him three attempts within the first ten minutes,

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psychologically. I just think, early in the game, they might have wanted

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a pop, but this is a pop on its own. O'Loughlin with a long pop at goal,

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and he has missed it. He struck it really well, though. They will have

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would have been tempted to have a go options, what should you do here,

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where he take it? As far as he can, prop, having an injury to his hip

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assessed. It was not a contact injury, he slipped fell awkwardly.

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He is being assessed by the doctor. Gil Dudson, the former North Wales

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Crusader, hopefully one for the Welsh World Cup side when they kick

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That is good running. Well done, guys - was it 50-1 on? When you

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think of the victories that London have had in Super League against the

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London Broncos... Knock on, just second error rather on his carry. He

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will need to clean that up for London. Territory in opposition, you

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know, it is favouring Wigan. London are going to get tired doing all

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these tackles, but because they have just made some in the errors and

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given so many penalties away. years of age, really part of the

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Absolutely no chance of staying in the field of play, just watch. Once

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he lands, he gets smashed by Hansen. and I think they will be looking for

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a fair distance. They will need it. As Jonathan has said, territory and

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possession is increasing, and they are a very patient side, Wigan, and

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all this defence is going to mean someone will make a good decision.

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this boy Thornley, he is a very is a try! Lee Mossop, is it?

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Derivative play by the halfback in the middle there. -- to reflect.

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Bringing the forward on just at the right spot. Well engineered. Lee

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Mossop. Well, they have the break, didn't they? Just watch this play,

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O'Loughlin takes the ball to the line, simple play, lovely pass. Just

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a little bit too white defensively. They were overloaded on one side,

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and that will make spaces. They were worried they would have spaces on

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the edge, so spaces open up in the middle. It is the system that they

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play, Jonathan - they have to work out their numbers, they play really

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nice and tight, and their dummy runners, the people who think they

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are getting the ball, they do not get the ball, and it opens up spaces

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further out. Pat Richards, a prolific goal-scorer for Wigan. No

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problems with this one, 12-04 the Wigan Warriors, and they will miss

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this man when he goes back to Australia. And that man as well,

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when he goes down under to try his hand. There he is, off he goes, the

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outsize defender does not go with him, the first defender, and that is

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a very simple try for Mossop, very well worked by Wigan. Another thing

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to mention for our viewers that are watching, the halfbacks for Wigan

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include O'Loughlin in that equation and Green and Smith, and they all go

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to the line and make defenders make get the ball of these men. Even this

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early in the game, I think the next score is crucial. It's these two

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halfbacks from Wigan, Smith and Blake Green, who are causing all the

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problems. They are bringing forward after forward. Not another one!

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You've got to try and slow the play of the ball down. But if the referee

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picks it up, you've just got to confidently on these passes. Tomkins

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has not had much room to run so far, but I'm sure we will see him

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throughout the 80 minutes. A good said we'd soon see him and there he

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is. Sam Tomkins going in already four Wigan's third try of the

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afternoon. Suddenly is London Broncos side have got to get a

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grip. They made four errors and four penalties conceded. Only 22 minutes

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gone, there's far too many errors. Steps inside, steps again. Just a

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massive hole behind the play of the ball once again. A bit of world

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class can play like this. If you are four defenders away, it might be you

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that makes the tackle. You need to be alert. It comes off his left

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foot, so there's three defenders away from him that should have been

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making the tackle. Luke Dorn, the full-back, is in the line. Once the

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first line is broken, which was Luke Broncos is looking at statistics

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from Wigan, they score far more tries ten minutes before half-time

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and ten minutes after. Tony Rea needs a couple of messages. He's

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probably got to put an extra number in the tackle to try and slow the

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ruck down. He's got to increase are getting up very quickly, there's

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men of the Dutch Mac there's men on the ground. Exploit that. They are

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going through again. It was knocked back. That's a penalty. Everything

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is going against the Broncos. are having real trouble holding down

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that side. They've got to get It is the number six. A bounce that

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proved difficult for the London Broncos. Green pounces and Wigan

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post. But when you kick the ball, anything can happen. That's what

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they do, they put it there and it Pat Richards in the Challenge Cup,

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he scored 50 points against London already this season himself. Going

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back to the kick, it had an element of luck as well. London need to get

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their hands on the ball. It's easier said than done when Wigan are in

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this kind of form, but they've got tackles. The mark of a good site is

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keeping the ball from the ball, they have to hold it, London.

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I think they have this mentality that they're going to chance their

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arm when they get the ball. Someone needs to remind them that against

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this team they have to do something different. You need to have a bit

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judged as another London knock-on? It is. There was no need for it. You

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had been a whole there and you give that pass, you don't risk it down

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there because there's an opportunity for you. The to pass the ball,

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Michael Robinson will have a shot # a sore chin tomorrow morning for

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Well played by Sam Tomkins inside. Almost like reading out to a baby on

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the wing. But he's no baby. Big, strong and powerful. Wigan go even

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Brian. The key is both their hearts go at the line, gets his hands

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free... Give some credit to Ben Flower, who carried the ball before

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that play. Magnificent feat. thought that was brilliant. Flower

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just steps and goes. You've got to realign your defence and reorganise

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it when your own line is very touchline, Gil Dudson is back out

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and about. It's a sign of Wigan's professionalism that Lee Mossop is

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prowling around, itching to get back out on the pitch. He's had a blast

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of oxygen. He's been working on the static bike here. Logan Tomkins

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there, the younger brother of Sam magnificent try! Josh Charnley

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timing his run to perfection. No wonder those Wigan fans are

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delighted. His 35th try of the break in the middle. Great footwork

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again. Boom! Straight through. He off-loaded to all Laughlin. Get that

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into you as well. As you said at the start of the game, he's a

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world-class player. That's a very good try. The support, the vision

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and the off-load. That's a classic you can't have rice paper thin

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defence. At the moment, they will have to show character and a bit of

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pride and self-respect not for this to be a total annihilation and

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embarrassment. We were looking at the beginning of the programme about

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the number of passes made by hot packs, and in particular by Sean

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O'Loughlin as a loose forward. He's almost an excellent halfback, isn't

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to take heart before the half-time? A bit of confusion there. There's no

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conviction in taking it. That's a there. I think Tony Rea knows he

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will be having a day off for the Cup tackling. Three Wigan defenders

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there, turnover. Flower has had such an impact, coming on, defensive,

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attacking. Just watch, he steps out of the line, just smashes him, hold

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from the Broncos, that is the sort of stuff that has been lacking.

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know, the mentality of Wigan will be the 04 London Broncos, they know the

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game is won. It is a matter of how many points they will score. But

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their motivation now will be 20 the can. Do Wigan pick it up? Yes, they

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do. I thought he was offside there. It has come to nothing anyway. It

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just goes to show, you know, even when you are winning 34-0, Wigan

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still complete the set and put a big high kick out to compete for

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possession again. Was he offside? No, he wasn't, Ray. He wasn't, I

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apologise to Josh Charnley. He held has got? He will probably just about

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are in complete control here in this Tetley's Challenge Cup semifinal.

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Available chip over the top. Well taken! That surely will be the end

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of proceedings. Richards coming insensibly, bringing it out well.

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Last tackle. There is the route. The scoreline, very convincing for the

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50 to one favourites, Wigan 34, London zero. Total domination in

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every aspect of the game for Wigan, they took their opportunities. The

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halfbacks took the ball to the line and held the defence. The execution

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was very, very good, far too many missed opportunities for Broncos

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early on, and a lack of discipline, more than a platform to make the

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final now. We have got a good grip on the game, we hope to do the same

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again in the second half. What was the key to dominance? The forwards

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defended well. They broke as a couple of times but we were strong.

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He was saying that the forwards have absolutely battered their way

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through that first half. That is the Wigan dressing room, a very happy

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Wigan dressing room, 34-0 up at half-time. And it is more the

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Broncos dressing room and what Tony Rea will be saying to his

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shell-shocked, not Shell socked, shell-shocked players. There is

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confirmation of the score at half-time, six tries for Wigan in

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be a very difficult team talk for Tony Rea. Before we started the

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game, I talked about a perfect performance. They're ill discipline

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giving away penalties is a reflection on technique. If you go

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through their play, they are not giving themselves an opportunity. At

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the start of the game, I thought they would start with a slower

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tempo, slowing the game down so it was not at a tempo to suit Wigan,

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but they have tried to up their tempo, and we saw the two points

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that they did not go for, they kicked into touch. I just feel that

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statistics will be very interesting, they are usually an indication of

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your effort and the quality of your effort, and every stat will be

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dominated. They have inflicted on themselves at times. I do not think

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Wigan were dominant early, but they brought them into the game, and then

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they have absolutely ambushed them. We had a few tweets from people

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before the match, this four-word for, impossible made possible. I do

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not think that is going to happen! Wigan absolutely battered London.

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And there have absolutely battered London, and yet London got off to an

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OK first five or ten minutes. we talk about their good start, it

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was really more that they just competed with Wigan in the first few

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minutes. But what happened with Wigan is they got the ball, got into

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good field position, and a really dangerous, some good kicking out of

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dummy half from Tommy Lee sole London get good field position. But

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following that, we talk about the energy battle in the changing rooms,

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and that means preserving your own energy and making sure that you make

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the other team defend as much as possible. London did not do that,

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they conceded too many penalties, turned over the ball too much, and a

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side as good as Wigan take advantage of that. That being said, London had

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a couple of early opportunities to put the pressure on. We saw them

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have a chance to go for the two, you said you would have gone for the two

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to get on the scoreboard, Brian, even if it is 2-0 up, would you have

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gone for that? I am not sure. Some people say keep the scoreboard

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rolling, restart there. The way they were playing, London, they would not

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be able to capitalise on those points. I reinforce what John said,

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Wigan were quite nervous in the first ten minutes, did not execute

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properly, gave them some free ball. What did London do? They handed it

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straight back. That was more the pivotal error than the decide to

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take two or not. And as soon as they got the dry, that released their

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confidence. When you have been told you are going to win, you begin to

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think, we have only got to do not to win. Look at the first try,

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educational stuff. They have got two attackers and need help from their

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marker, but they both go the same way. What compounds it even worse is

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the pull-back, who has to go straight to the inside shoulder of

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the ball carrier. He has to take away his time, so that lack of

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communication and teamwork defensively was highlighted. At the

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moment, there is the Wigan changing room once again. They do not look

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particularly happy, considering they are 34-0 up, do they? Shaun Wane has

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to instil some concentration, because in essence this game was won

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for them, if nothing goes wrong. But what he wants is to keep the

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complete performance going, executing and keeping their

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discipline. That can be harder to achieve, so he is reinforcing the

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message - listen, don't clock up, keep doing the things that have made

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a successful. They are in the habit of doing this, he will be

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reinforcing, we need to keep this working. Talking about the semifinal

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of the Challenge Cup and the final. That is what they will be talking

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about in the dressing room, the fact that they cannot drop their

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intensity. If you switch off in a game that seems to be won, it can

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take weeks to get that intensity back. Wigan will want to finish with

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the intensity that they finished this first half with. Let's examine

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that intensity, because it hit the Wigan intensity that has caused

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these London penalties? By that, I mean fitness, pressure, wanting to

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play the ball quickly. Those that cause London to slow it down

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illegally? Their energy levels are down and technique is compromised

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off the back of that, and then you give away more penalties, and it is

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a vicious cycle that we talk about. When I set about the energy battle,

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that is what I am talking about. It is very difficult to recover from

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the energy you have expended, trying to control Wigan in that period.

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Exiting your half, like Wigan were, they were given free rides with

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penalties all the time. You do not want to repeat sets, you are

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thinking, the bodies in motion by Wigan, creating more tackles, and

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their technique has been poor. That has been the downfall. They will be

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talking about that, London, because this could get embarrassing. Is it a

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vicious circle? , you give away penalties, you make mistakes, and

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you struggle to get a foothold. It is impossible to get back into the

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game at that point. It is like tennis, you both want to get on the

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baseline to return the ball. At the moment, Wigan are coming into the

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net and hitting winners. You say it is like tennis, and Brian is in

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between the two of you going like that from side to side! Australia

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versus England here! O'Loughlin, look, he is the best 13 in the game,

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and amongst the players he is revered as the best team player. He

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has had a captain's Nokia today, everything he has done, he has been

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square and direct. Rockne, to me, he has said, listen, I am a good

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player, but I need to show you that I am a great player today. He is

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trying to off-load it and has not had the opportunity. We talk about

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good ball, attacking the opposition line. He has not had that, but the

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captains dug up, Rodney, and he has been one of many players that have

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contributed to their downfall. mentioned in commentary, we know

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that the hits that O'Loughlin can put in, you kind of highlighted his

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creativity in commentary. He a world-class player, I cannot

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emphasise that enough. He bend his back but make passes at the line as

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well as any half in the game. He released Charnley on the fringes,

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bumping somebody else in the process, using his physical aspect

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and prowess as well. He has the quality and skill to find the past.

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I cannot give him enough plaudits, he is a super player, but he has the

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ability to do the tough stuff as well. The Benz is back, as though

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all the Wigan team. -- he bends his back. Ben Flower did the same,

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compromising the London line all the time. They have got real energy off

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the bench, Flower was fantastic, a really hard player to tackle. He

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played with Smith a number of times, getting back to the inside shoulder,

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playing the ball quickly, and a number of the Wigan tries came off

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the back of his carries. He made a big difference towards the back end

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of that hard. Talking about family times he touches the ball,

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O'Loughlin, we must tell the viewers it is not just about touching the

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ball, it is where you go on the defensive line. He runs square and

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holds the defence, and that is why they are getting so much space.

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Look, this is one of the captain's great roles, if we watching,

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everything leads out of his hands, the way the defence, had off his

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line. That is where he inspires people. Wigan will feel that they

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have one foot in the Challenge Cup final, they will not feel they are

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definitely there yet. Who will they 5:45pm here on BBC Two tomorrow

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evening. Let's talk to a former Warrington player, Jonathan Davies,

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on the other side of the field in the commentary box. If Warrington

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reproduce the form they showed in that quarterfinal against

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Huddersfield, they are likely to be at Wembley, and they? It's difficult

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to say. But I thought the catalyst was their defence. It was fantastic.

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They built on that. When you've got a good defence, then you know you

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will try and make the opportunity to score points. You have to fancy

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Warrington, they've got some love affair going with the Challenge Cup

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at the moment, as Wigan did in the 80s. Yes, they do go in as

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favourites, but it will be a very interesting game and a lot closer

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than people expect. But I just fancy the experience of Warrington will

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edge that. Cole work defensively, they were very good against Catalan.

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-- Hull. They've been outstanding all year. Their bugbear has been not

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getting fluency in their hearts and getting the right combination and

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injuries. They bought a young player from Australia, it's been tough for

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him, Daniel Holdsworth. Their outstanding kicker. That gives him a

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lot of confidence. They can continue their good defence and back it up

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with some tries, I think we are in for a great game tomorrow. We would

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expect it to be closer than this tomorrow. Without doubt.We are on

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air till 7pm on BBC Two, but then we have the forum on the red button.

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Plenty talk about. Review this game with us. You can tweet us. You can

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e-mail us as well. John and Ian and Brian will be with us for the forum

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from 7pm on the red button. Now there is plenty of work for those

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London players to do. Let's rejoin our commentary team for the second

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do need to play for their pride over the next 40 minutes. I'm sure we

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will be seeing some records for semi-finals. I think so. They've

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been told in a changing room, look, boys, keep possession, finish the

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sets, do the basics well. Defend as well as you can and see what

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happens. It will be, look, let's try and win the second half. It might be

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a bit of a contest, but it's all about getting some respect and pride

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pushing up off these short passes. They are doing all the damage.

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are just laying such a great platform for the halfbacks.

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there you see one of the results of that platform, a magnificent kick

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not back in, they've got to get back right-hand side. Just didn't hold

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their depth. Ian Thornley came in very well. They know there is going

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to be a play on. But the centre has of this Wigan team, he does all the

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experienced player. He has had success with Bradford and Hull KR in

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from this London team in the second half. That was good play. They just

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didn't need that again. They ask questions of the Wigan defence and

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they cut the line. It is frenetic rugby. They've just got to play for

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possession. They've got to do something different, guys, because

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they are 34 down. They will have to chance their arms somewhere. They

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have to try and keep their possession. It is a balance between

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chanting your arm and not throwing the miracle ball and just getting

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rooms. Wigan, a pleasing first half is the message from Shaun Wane. He

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said it was a sluggish start, it took ten minutes to get into their

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stride. In terms of London, they admit it's a massive void to make

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up. The defence was porous. They really need to establish themselves

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from that line. Tomkins weighing up on the line. There's not many

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semifinal games where you can actually enjoy it, knowing there's a

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massive prize of a Wembley final. That was one of my goals, to play

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and win at a challenge Cup Final. I played but didn't win there. Every

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rugby league player coming up through the age groups wants to play

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in Wembley, in the Challenge Cup Final. When you get a chance to play

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in a semi-final, usually means it's not really enjoyable because it's

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such a big prize at the end of it. Dewsbury. We were getting battered.

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There's a lot of nerves about a semifinal. There's a lot of nerves

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hear from some of these London think that was high. I don't think

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that was a penalty, was it? chance. It's just an opportunity for

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the touch judge to come on and show he's on TV today! I think he's hard

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done to there. No one else spotted not your day it's not your taste. --

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Taylor. That's too easy. A penalty that goes against you, they go too

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far back in the penalty because they work guessing that Wigan were going

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to kick the touch. Mossop makes about 25 yards. This is the tackle

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which was not a high tackle. Then they got so far back, look how much

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of a try Mossop did. A very tired lung -- London Broncos defence.

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is the sheer power of this pack. Everyone of them, it's taking two or

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in respect of the penalty that wasn't a penalty. That's his sixth

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goal of the afternoon, his 16th point of the match. Wigan, 40-0. I

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really do think that we could be looking around somewhere of that

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figure of 1992 semifinal, when it was 71-10 for Wigan against

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Bradford? How dare you mention it! That's twice, I'm putting a claim in

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Broncos is Jamie O'Callaghan. O'Loughlin made a world-class

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decision there. It epitomises the came across there. Good play from

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ragged here. Desperate tackling by the London Broncos. He is in! A

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beautiful try! The darting run, the instant sidestep, in at the side of

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the post. Wonderful halfback play from this lard. -- lad. That's just

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a vision of a tired defence. They are falling off tackles everywhere.

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I think it's Matt Cook who gets caught here. He takes on the inside

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and leaves him for pace and breaking a line, as a full-back you

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haven't got much chance. Richards will be welcoming all this

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seven? The Wigan fans are massed must be close to the record now,

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eight scored in a semifinal, I think. Well, let's just have a cat

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this footwork from Smith, Jonathan. As Brian said, the isolated prop,

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you see him cutting inside, very good finish. Yes, you are quite

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right about the record. The record number of points was in that 71-10

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defeat at Bradford by Wigan in 1992. The former all Black and Wigan

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full-back has the record. I do not know whether Brian members it or

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not. Let me just pick up on that! thought we would put this one to bed

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if Wigan played well enough today, position, 74%. The Broncos, 26!

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the guys were saying at half-time, if you try to fix things, you go

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back to where you are, all of a sudden you find yourself lower. You

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try harder to go higher and find yourself lower, you cannot get out

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are, the stats, second-half possession, 79%! You cannot hope to

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win a game. Territory, 73%.Goodness me! Let's see what they can do with

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this set of six. Who will inspire this London side? Ben Fisher trying

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to push O'Callaghan down that side. We have not seen figures like that

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on a month's loan from Wigan to the Broncos. Well taken by Charlie! I

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thought he had a chance, I thought he saw a gap. So did he, he thought

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Tomkins is away! He has beaten three already, beautiful pass, one-handed!

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Oh, he has lost it! Wonderful rugby! He just could not hold the

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ball at the last minute. But sensational running. He is just

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picking them off now, coming into the game when he wants. He spots the

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tired forwards on the side of the ruck. Just watching, this is the end

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clever. That is a very good rule change, that is. There is the knock

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on, it is a free play, before the new law he would have held that any

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hand and not tried it. But he now knows that is a free play, and if he

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does not score, the ball goes back for a scrum. The Broncos mascot just

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about says it all. He looks upset. the skill, the skill in this pass by

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Lough Erne. -- O'Loughlin. Total dominance, Brian, but that is

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special, a special skill. Yes, and it's just emphasises the fact that

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he has got everything in his locker, he can play tough, carried the

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ball. Look at that! That is class, that is class. Watch it again. That

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is great. He spots the winner coming in, and if he catches that, he gets

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nailed, man and ball. With the pace on the ball, he just put his hands

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onto it, increases the pace, and attempts at GCSE maths, but I make

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it that he has now equalled the... Hang on, Ray, I will pick you up

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there, I do not think you were doing around, it looked like it was going

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right across the face of the posts, but Pat Richards kicks in a cracker

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of a goal. Just watch this pass from behind, right? Brilliant from

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O'Loughlin. He has one step to get rid of him, and he saw it two plays

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earlier. He picks somebody out and got the ball back to where he wanted

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it. The best thing about that, he executed the play. 08 goals to Pat

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tackles made 60, 110. It is a very testing every ounce of the reserves

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of the strength of the London Broncos site. Wigan are making their

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tackles count, and Wigan's attacking prowess will mean the London players

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do not even lay a hand on them to miss a tackle. Just look at this one

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here, Thornley, all 6-foot four of at half-time, their intensity is

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what he will be pleased about. if it is 0-0 or 20 up, they still

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complete their sets, put the right kick in, make the right decision at

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ground, but they are on the last Child. Oh, yes, just. A good

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of beer! The halfbacks again for Wigan, Liam Farrell, back in the

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side, a good second row! The former Wigan Saint Patrick is a matter, now

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heading for the England World Cup side. -- amateur. Again, it is the

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decision-making on the pass, they create the overlap, just watch the

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Tomkins. He spots the winger coming in, puts Richards into space. He

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does not decide to take the last defender on. And then great support

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office for Tony Rea, very little he can do about it. He knows the

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difference in strength and pace and quality between these two sides.

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Very little he can do. It just shows, really, the difference

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between the top and the bottom of goal-kicking. No hint of any breeze

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around, he has got derailed that today. Another one from Pat

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Richards. 58-0, and that last half a smile on his face. It is the

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execution again, playing so close to the line, the halfbacks, tight,

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opening up, preserving space on the fringes, rather than creating it

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with the straight line is that the halfbacks play. It is an easy score

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in the end, really created in and again, giving penalties away. It is

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a tough challenge to try to change the mentality and change the aspect

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of the game, it is a tough one. eighth penalty conceded by the

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Broncos. Because they are winning the tackle, and they? Very powerful,

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Playing the ball early, bringing man Thornley again, he is strong,

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and he powers in again. The passing in the middle of the field is too

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much, too fast, too slick for the their repertoire of players they

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somebody like they took off Thornley there... They take the ball to the

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line, they hope the inside defence and then they are isolated out wide.

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That's a very easy tribal Thornley. Very difficult for the wings and the

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full-back. But they've got to communicate, they both went for the

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same man there. I feel they've thrown the towel in bit now. This

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could now be any score. I do feel that the last couple of tries, they

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now are tiring badly. They just can't keep this Wigan attack out.

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You get tired when you are winning 64-0. Not when you are losing.

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Wigan are still confident. Don't forget, we've got another semifinal

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tomorrow. Hull FC versus Warrington. They've got to keep it for six

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Super League. It's important they do and show some of the things that all

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we can practice Tony Rea and the players were working on. Put your

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got support? Oh! A little bit of over eagerness therefrom Liam

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Farrell. He was wanting to run off there was a point between the two

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sides. That's important for Wigan and their coach. When you are a

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champion team like Wigan are, they are looking to do everything

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absolutely perfectly. They've shown aggression, they've shown bigger,

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when they've lost the ball they've whacked London so hard that they've

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got the ball back. That's why London haven't progressed up the field.

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Here is a chance! Two metres short. A good tackle by Mcllorum. Broncos

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you are in the latter stages. They will play against very good sides.

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This is the area where you want to keep that intensity and pace going.

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More importantly, keep the concentration going. Mistakes come

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when you are tired, so they will try and push themselves to play to the

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really emerging in this Wigan pack. Harrison Hansen, at 64-0, he's

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arguing with the referee there about both winners and losers. It's very

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breather. They are not too bothered run. He is a very solid hooker,

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on the outside wide. Wonderful slip of a pass from Goulding there.

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good understanding. As soon as the ball went to the right hand on its

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and they get the ricochet back to right. Charnley just has to come

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the ball well. Delight on those match, Pat Richards has scored 28

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points. Matty Smith has been brilliant. For me, head and

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shoulders above everyone today, has been Sean O'Loughlin. He has been

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superb. He has launched so many forwards down the middle. He has

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taken the ball to them line. He's have been the standouts. Can the

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determinedly as they were in the doesn't go to Jamie Soward. A metre

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short, but that's the professionalism of this side,

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tackling for their dear lives. It's heads up, I think Tommy Lee has had

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a decent game today. But he won't be of six... That man might well

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smile, it has been a record-breaking day for him. The most points ever in

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a semifinal. Can Wigan grab this one Wigan have made today! I think that

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shortcake was supposed to go a bit further for Pat Richards. That's

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probably the only piece of poor player. The last seconds ticking

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down. Can the Broncos snatch one appearance in an amazing 30th Cup

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Final. They won't want this year 's Tetleys Challenge Cup Final two end

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up like that last one after beating the Broncos. 70-0. That is some

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scoreline. They were too good for them, they started badly and got

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worse. Their discipline was they were too good for them, they started

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badly and got worse. Their discipline was poor, they made too

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many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. Poor, they made too

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many errors, and Wigan capitalised on everything. You know, it was a

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bit of a one horse you know, it was a bit of a one horse race race

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and I am sure already Yes, happy days for this Wigan side, and I am

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sure already that Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling

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Warrington in the second semifinal at Huddersfield tomorrow night. That

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Shaun Wane will be assessing the prospects for tackling Warrington in

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the second semifinal at Huddersfield congratulations, how does it feel to

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be going to Wembley again? It feels fantastic, Shaun Wane, the Wigan

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coach, congratulations, how does it feel to be going to Wembley again?

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It feels fantastic, we lost last year after playing poorly. We lost

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last year after playing poorly. We were outstanding today. Contract we

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were outstanding today. Compare and compare and contrast with last year.

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match is here, Sean O'Loughlin congratulations, the man of the

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match is here, Sean O'Loughlin, congratulations. What was the key to

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the victory today? , congratulations. What was the key to

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the victory today? We got off to a really good start, settled into the

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game We got off to a really good start, settled into the game. It was

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always going to be a struggle for London to come back. . It was always

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going to be a struggle for London to the moment the Wigan players down

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below us at the moment are on their lap of honour. Are on their lap of

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honour. The players are staying back say after a semifinal like that, and

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we will talk with Ian Millward and Brian Noble shortly There are all

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sorts of things we can say after a semifinal like that, and we will

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talk with Ian Millward and Brian it means to him, because last year

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semifinal hit him hard. Let's start with Shaun Wane and what it means to

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him, because last year semifinal hit him hard. Whenever you lose one, you

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want to put some structures in place and learn from your mistakes.

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Whenever you lose one, you want to put some structures in place and

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were too good for them, they started badly and got Without those people

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we wouldn't have it. The fans here today, they were vocal. You can see

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what it meant to them, Wembley. They want to get back there and walk up

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the Wembley walk. The big thing is you've got to maintain that for the

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final. Pat Richards, most points in a semifinal, the biggest winning

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margin in a semifinal as well today. Josh Charnley has hit a

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personal milestone with 100 tries the club, what does that feel like?

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It's a massive honour. It was a childhood dream to play for Wigan.

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To get the jersey and pick up 100 tries is good as well. What does the

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Challenge Cup mean to you? It's massive. We want to win all the

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trophies we can get. We fell short last year. We have bounced back well

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and we are going to Wembley. does the fantastic support spur you

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on? It gives you a bit of a lift. When you feel a bit tired and you

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hear them screaming, it gives you a buzz. Congratulations, keep scoring

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The Wigan fans haven't got that far to get home. That is something that

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a few of you have tweeted about. We will talk about the venue for this

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semifinal during the forum at 7pm on the red button. The players continue

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what does that mean to you individually? That's the reason why

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I came to Wigan, to play in big games. To get to Wembley, one step

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away from lifting the trophy is massive for me and the team. What do

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you think went well for you as a team today? I thought we started a

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bit jittery, but our defence turns up week in week out. We work in our

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defence. I think that went over the line today. We ended up scoring a

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few good tries. Sean O'Loughlin, a fantastic performance today, how

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much of a leader is he for you and how much does he inspire you on?

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He's a massive inspiration. We miss him when he's out. We missed him

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last week. He came back today and played really well. We said he was a

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world-class performer who would not go amiss in any team, and still have

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the luxury to bring him back, a captain of that ilk, it is pivotal

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for this team. He said, he is our leader, we look up to him. When it

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gets tough, do you know what? He placed up. When it is easy, he still

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plays tough! He has been instrumental in everything that

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Wigan have done today, carrying the ball up the line with his passing

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skills, following Ben Flower, he got the play at the end, taking two or

:08:19.:08:25.

three people out. He bashes him like he is not there. He has the vision,

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while he is still running and bumping people off, to know that he

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has players on the outside. Great execution of the past. In everything

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he does, he preserves space on the outside for people to finish it off.

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If it does not matter if he is going square, he commits and preserves the

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space, and he must be a joy to play outside. It is that combination of

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physical presence, hulking physical presence, and yet deft hands as

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well. He is the consummate rugby league player, it is a group or

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game, that element of subtlety... Here we see Smith finish off a

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player, what he and says, this is just subliminal. He should be on

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O'Loughlin, the defender. He comes on. That is a skill in itself, and

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flicking the ball on, don't grab for the ball. Look, they got a lot of

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confidence as the game went on. Matty Smith, one of the things that

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players say, he should run the ball more, and they gave him that

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luxury, London. What I like about the end of that, Pat Richards scores

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the try, but all the players go to high-5 and slap O'Loughlin.

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called the play two plays before it happened, he knew he had an

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opportunity with the numbers on the left-hand side, and then to execute

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the play as well, I think that is why everybody feeds of his end-users

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and knowledge of the game. We are looking at the Wigan dressing room,

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a discussion going on about how much of Josh Charnley we can show,

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because we are not quite sure if he has got any pants on. He has, says

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the relieved voice in my year! We are scrutinising that band right in

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the middle to see how many clothes a has got on. Let's talk about his

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100th try instead. He gets great service from the inside from a lot

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of people, but it is his ability to sense what is going to happen. The

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drags his defender out. When you get to the touchline, if you're defender

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stays out, you come in. If he goes in, you stay out. He stays out, now,

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he understands now, Charnley has great instincts. His positional play

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is very good. To be fair, Darrell Goulding gave him a huge tip there.

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That is a combination play that they have on that side. This is what it

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meant to the Wigan dressing room, to be back at Wembley for their 30th

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Challenge Cup final. They are celebrating, it will be a very

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different reaction in the London dressing room. Let's hear from their

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coach, Tony Rea is with David. Commiserations, you have been on the

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end of a real hiding today. What are your thoughts and feelings at the

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moment? We are obviously really shattered. It was not what we came

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here to do today. We had really high hopes for what we were going to get

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out of the game. Just a ridiculous penalty count against us.

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Horrendous, we never got the ball, and I just thought there was a point

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in the first half were wanting was going to crack, and I thought we had

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a chance of being the one to crack them. But we lost our discipline, in

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marking play and defence. Their plea to Wigan, they are a very good

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team, they are bigger and better and more powerful and they steamrollers.

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-- their play. For ten minutes you had a hold on the game. We have got

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to understand and believe that, but we felt like we were not clear

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enough in our eyes that was happening for us. It is tough in

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these big games, you have got to be tough, and we were not tough enough.

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Thank you for talking to us. He has been involved at every level

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with London, in whatever form they have had, whatever name, and he

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one wants to see such a blow out. Wigan were clinical, they

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scrutinised the London team, and they executed, they were intense. On

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the other side of that, people challenge your commitment, challenge

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your willingness to do well. It is so far from the truth, the effort

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was there from London but they could not get a foothold in the game.

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will talk more about London in the forum from seven o'clock on the red

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button. Sam Tomkins. We talk about effort in the game, and his efforts

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could go sideways, I have got to say, he has got a quick twitch about

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everything he does. He looks at that with instinct, he does not take an

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eternity to do it. We have got a clip coming up, watch his balance

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when he runs. I know they said this was a high tackle, but your coach

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cannot tell you how to balance. He has this ability to slither out of

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tackles when he runs. The players the right of him, that is what I

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love about him. This is brilliant, this. This takes effort, behind the

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ruck. He is the third last person to get the ball to create the try. They

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cannot number up on him. You have to have attitude for that, and you have

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to have vision, and you have to back it up with skill. If he stays on the

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short side to hold the defender, four on four, he goes to the back,

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but he has got the speed to get there. This is what he did at

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half-time, he spoke to the players, one of their leaders for the Wigan

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Warriors, and he is very close to the Challenge Cup. He cannot touch

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it just yet, he is with John. great to be back from injury, what

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an emphatic way to get through to the Challenge Cup final. Today, we

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spoke all week about this being about our performance, and we knew

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we would be favourites going into it, but London have got some strike

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players we have to look after, and I think we did that pretty well. The

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scoreboard showed that. With your balanced running style and the style

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to have, you will fancy getting the trophy at Wembley. That is a way

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away to be thinking about just yet, but we looking forward to Wembley.

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We are lucky enough that a lot of the group were there in 2011 and won

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it, one of the best days for all of us, and we spoke about that to the

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other lads who have not experienced it. A lot of the lads have not been

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involved in semifinals, and I know today was different, but it is great

:15:13.:15:21.

to get that under our belt. something particularly special about

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your outfit today. Tell us about your boots. It is the charity that

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rugby league has got behind massively in the last 18 months. It

:15:30.:15:35.

is for a young lad called Jack, he has Duchenne muscular dystrophy.

:15:35.:15:39.

There is no cure for it. We are trying to raise as much money to go

:15:39.:15:44.

into research and save not only Jack's life but a lot of other

:15:44.:15:51.

people 's. I've been able to design my own boots and I had this idea

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that came to me, why not have them for the charity? We used the colours

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that we used on the kit last year and made this one pair. These will

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be auctioned off. There's only one been made. Hopefully someone will

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bid big. It's going to a great cause. People dig deep, plenty of

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bids for those boots. Sam emphasising what fantastic

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ambassadors these guys are, myself the red button. We will be on the

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red button from 7pm. Will the scoreline be something that we are

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going to talk about quite a lot, do you think? I think it will be

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mentioned, but I think it can be a catalyst for a lot of things for

:16:54.:16:58.

catalyst for a lot of things for both teams. Looking at some of the

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possessions, 73% possession for Wigan. I've never seen a team only

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have 500 metres for a game. They gave themselves no opportunity here

:17:08.:17:17.

today. I can see what -- I Tony Rea is shattered. This could be a

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catalyst for Wigan as well. We will talk a lot about the consequences

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for London, but this could always be big stuff for Wigan for what it has

:17:29.:17:34.

created. We will be live on BBC Two tomorrow for the semifinal of

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are defending really well. They have a chance of creating an upset. But

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Warrington are on fire at the moment, I'm going with Warrington.

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Even though London bottom of Super League, whoever wins will face a

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real test at Wigan. It will be a cracking final. Warrington are the

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form team of Super League. If they repeat that tomorrow they will win,

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which creates one mammoth game. know you sniggered at that but it is

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sometimes difficult, a semifinal that is this one-sided, to work out

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how dominant... I fully agree with you. They are a top team. A Wigan

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