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Its arid, it's dry, ready-made for rugby. England against the Pumas of

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Argentina. Sensational try. Ten young guys coming. Winner against

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prop and the winger is the clear winner. England had good players and

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I'm the even more impressed now by the youth coming through. Big blast,

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took a while but it has truly come to life. Brilliant buys Slade,

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lilting forward, and Jonny May get them first. De La Fuente in support,

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he scores, what a game this is. Argentina's lead grows. Brilliant

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try. Good support from Slade. Ford has the pace to go all the way.

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England strike back on this game. Our aim is not to play like that

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every week, we want more control. The drop goal, up goes Nigel Owens's

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hand. Argentina take the lead. This has been one of the games of the

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season, one of the games of many a year. The power of Solomona, he will

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score, remarkable. England have seized the game.

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Remarkable it was, Solomona's dazzling try saw a much changed

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England edged a victory in an epic encounter against Argentina last

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week. With the Lions with a host of injuries Eddie Jones is deprived of

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30 players. It caps to ten debutants last week and this week he makes

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three changes from the team that scored four tries against the Pumas,

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the most headline grabbing the inclusion of former captain Chris

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Robshaw. Last week Argentina were a constant threat in attack, good

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value for their four tries and today they are looking to avenge their

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last-minute defeat. They made just one change. Welcome to the

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programme, Saturday Night Live rugby on the BBC, you cannot beat it, we

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hope for another cracking encounter. There are 143 England caps in the

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studio this evening -- caps. Jeremy Guscott and Brian Moore, Brian,

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great to see you, how you feeling? Lucky to be here are many ways but

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all the more welcome because of that. Feeling better with an England

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win? Looking forward to it, yes. More of the same? It was interesting

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to listen to Eddie Jones's quote, our aim is not to play like this

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every week. I can see there must have been tension for him with the

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game being so close them Solomona scoring, but when you have players

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like Ford, Slade and Francis, they are more apt that playing a more

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open game rather than a structured game, hitting the gain line. They

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want to lose that use their skills. Eddie Jones on radio 5Live last

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night said it wasn't a game of rugby but not as much fun for him as us

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watching in the studio. I can imagine. More than happy watching

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that game every week, it was fantastic, really open, probably to

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open for a coach but defensively they need to tweak it a little

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because they are sloppy. Tom Curry, fantastic debut last week,

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celebrated his 19th birthday this week, dropped from the squad. Do you

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understand what Eddie is trying to do? Yes I do. Underhill needs a run

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out. They have 30 players who aren't here who also have claims, there is

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limited time he has even though we seem a long way from World Cup,

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there are very few games. It is unfortunate for him but he is a boy

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for the future and will to your. He has shown he can play at this level

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and his future is ahead of him and looks bright. We will talk about the

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Lions and their performance today, and also what has happened with

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Warren Gatland calling up players for Wales and Scotland causing

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social media debate. But a night for Chris Robshaw May be to show gallon

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what he is made of. Chris is 31, we know what he can do. What he does is

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performs at a high level every single game, doesn't drop behind it.

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A consistent player is worth his weight in gold for a coach and the

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team. You don't see the Flash, Hollywood stuff from Chris, but he

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has Duracell batteries in his engine and will go the full 80 and be a --

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is strong in the second half of the first. He grinds on grinds and you

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want on alongside you in the trenches. There has also been talk

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about Underhill, a big night for him. He had his opportunity at

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Twickenham against the Barbarians and lasted 20 minutes. Look at the

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size of his back, we expect big things, a lot of debate about him.

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He has moved to Bath and hopefully will go well. Tonight in an England

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shirt to get his first cap, expect big things of him. Eddie Jones is

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stockpiling all these young players at the moment, an exciting time to

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be an England fan. He said he wants contention from three players in

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every position, and when you get that you are in a good situation. He

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is not far for it in the vast majority, which augurs really well

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for English rugby. Let's hear from Eddie Jones talking to the host

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broadcaster. Thanks for your time. After last week's game did you

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change anything from your game from last week or will it be similar?

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It's a different referee, so different ground, different

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conditions, so we will alter things slightly. Knots of things, you

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cannot tell anyone? We can't talk with them. The set piece will be

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important. Against Argentina the set piece is always important. Do you

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expect something different from Argentina? I think they might focus

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more on the old-style Argentinian rugby. Every time they get a chance

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to scrum, scrum long, maybe more little more, but in phase play I

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think we will see what we have seen in the last three four years. Last

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one, are you happy you didn't receive a call from New Zealand?

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Look, I am disappointed my players have been called up but they are

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playing for England so it is a good second prize. Thank you very much. A

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reminder, we will talk about the Lions very shortly. We can't wait to

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get stuck into that. Eddie Jones says he will end this test is

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halfway through a four-year project, it is all about the World Cup and

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going to plan so far. Certainly is, they have only one game in the last

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19 through design, some through injury, missing 30 players but it

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has allowed him to see how deep the talented. We saw it last week, and

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let's face it, they acquitted themselves really well. We know

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about their talent. Someone told but in terms of these guys, on the bench

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last week, the only person with any experience was Mullen, but they came

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on really well, Collier in the scrum I thought was outstanding, is I

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quick, great for him, but Underhill we spoke about, Lozowski will be

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disappointed not to be involved, and Maunder has a huge feature ahead of

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him, break -- played brilliantly for Exeter. Probably the worst and best

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debut for Solomona stop blue he is into a new system, a new game. The

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tries he has scored this season have been wonderful and he has continued

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that in the scoring side of the game. His defence wasn't great, he

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was appalling, but you forget about that a little when he scores the

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tries at the quality he does. Eddie Jones said in the interview last

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night on radio 5Live, after the match, I said -- he said he and

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Denny were going shopping. You are right, he didn't defend well but

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farewell he redeemed himself. I hope if he comes on and have a positive

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impact it is not going to wipe out his defence. He wasn't taken down by

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the poor defensive effort. When he had the opportunity he had the

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minerals to take it which is brilliant but he has a lot to learn

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in rugby union. Let's look at the Argentina team, a single change to

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the starting line-up for this second test, Moyano starting on the right

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wing in place of Moroni who drops to the bench. His first start against

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hemisphere side. Do you expect fireworks? I think they will try to

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play with more control. The half-backs are experienced, in the

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back row huge experience and a lot of caps. I think at times they lost

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control... Having put the tries over England they needed them to control

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the game better than they did. Whilst they will still play

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expansive rugby I think they will look to exert that control through

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those five players. Also worth noting, Ugo, that they have been

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watching the Lions because it is Eddie's goal to be the number one

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team in the world. Yes, and they are looking for more of the same

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tonight. It is the second test, Argentina

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against England, fantastic atmosphere, let's say good evening

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to our commentary team, Andy Robinson and Eddie Butler.

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COMMENTATOR: The team is being shown, and all change in the back

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row bar Nathan Hughes, the Rock, Chris Robshaw, the glue is back,

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Underhill, the youngster at 20 back from injury. Danny Care and George

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Ford, Ford, 23 points in the first test last week. Danny Care, second

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most experienced member of the side, 73rd cap today. Piers Francis comes

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into the starting line-up in place of Lozowski. Guile rather than grunt

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in the centre. Yarde and Jonny May try scorers in San Juan. Like Mike

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Brown they will be busy again this afternoon. Argentina, well, they

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sensed a set piece dominance last week. They will be coming at England

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in the set you, Agustin Creevy, the captain, the totem of this Pumas

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side. Heavyweights in the second row. Lavanini scored, Alemanno, a

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giant, towering second row forward. Matera was singled out for not

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having a great start so expect the Argentine backroad to come at

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England with a burst. Experience at half-backs, over 100 caps between

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Sanchez and Landajo, and plenty of experience in the centre, Lando and

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De La Fuente, Tuculet, try scorer last week, the one change, Moyano

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comes in on the right wing instead of Moroni. Today's referee, John

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Lacey of Ireland. The sun is out, we have had overcast skies, warm here

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in Santa Fe. The stadium, home of: Football club given over to rugby

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today. -- home of Colon football club. We are off. The second test,

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Argentina against England in Santa Fe. Ford goes long. Boffelli, the

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try scoring wing takes the catch. Creevy, the captain, Underhill

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immediately involved. In contact. Not a great deal of length therefrom

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Tuculet, but a sign on the wind, it has been swirling, good afternoon,

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Andy Robinson. Yes, there is a little bit of wind out there,

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looking forward to seeing England put structure in their phase played

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today. Down off the top from Launchbury, a change of tactic and

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the ball bounces, they have found space. Moyano involved. Sanchez,

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straight down the middle. Ford, back for England, the outside-half.

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Sanchez from his opposite number. There is space there. Brown comes

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across. Inside his 22. It is a good clearance by Mike Brown. Brown did

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really well there to cover England. Just one man back in the backfield

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and Sanchez saw the space, kicked into that space, both sides using

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the kicking option at the moment, trying to get a feel for the game,

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some early hits in. Creevy, who is massively worked. Williams wearing

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three for England, through on the loose ball. Scrum down. Argentina

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put it. John Lacey the referee. It was an important battle ground, the

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scrum, always important when you play against Argentina. You will is

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getting up, knocking the ball on as he went to contest, that is why it

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is a scrum -- Ewels knocking on. Both looking at getting the bind

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right. Robshaw hasn't played for six months in a Test match. Played

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against the Barbarians. Here is an echo of the first test, an epic

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game, but began with so many reset scrimmages. Both sides trying to

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fill each other out, the front row is working hard. Scrummaging very

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low there, England, trying to counteract the power of the

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Argentinian front row. Williams with the scrum. Hartley in the middle,

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Ellis Genge on the far side. Landajo to feed the scrum.

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Very solid for Argentina, forward they go. Leguizamon picks up. Still

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going. Hughes wrote that out of the way cleverly. Sanchez, as Eddie

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Jones predicted, Argentina kicking a little more. Follow-up tackle by De

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La Fuente. Orlando came up hard on the tackle, as did Desio. First

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penalty. The Argentina coach there. Argentina struggled in the contact

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area early last week. We see them here coming from the side to kick

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the ball out. A cheap penalty to give away by Argentina, giving away

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field position and possession. Allows England to settle. George

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Ford puts it into Argentina's 22. The new wing, Moyano. Hartley safely

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through the hands. Nathan Hughes, breaks the first tackle. If Joe

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Launchbury can stretch out... And gives the pass, and it is a try.

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Simple, simple play, Charlie Ewels giving a brilliant support line off

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Nathan Hughes, great power running through. Looking at Charlie Ewels,

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as he went over, looking a bit strange, great work, Nathan Hughes.

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Coming up, Launchbury, Ewels on his shoulder, does he hurt himself

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there? Excellent to see Launchbury and Ewels working so closely

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together. As he scored the try he just hits the post. England won some

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structure in their game, get the power running. Ford has the

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conversion. Great start for England. The depth of Launchbury's carry,

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being aware of Ewels in support. Both those players played really

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well last week. Delight on his face then the Greenwich afterwards --

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grimace afterwards. Argentina have to restart. Sanchez... Changes play,

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sends it high. Piers Francis. Theory here, it has

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gone silent. The crowd hurt by that first score, Argentina under real

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pressure to score -- it is creepy here, the crowd has gone silent.

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Advantage being played, back to Landajo. Matera shrugs off Hughes,

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on the wrong side now, no advantage. Penalty against Charlie Ewels, the

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try scorer! Technical penalty, trying to stop them all, gets in

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very early then comes in at the side. -- stop the small. Sanchez

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down into the England 22. It's still a good attacking position. The

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figure at the front, Lavanini. Alemanno and Leguizamon, the other

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scrum cap wearer, number eight. It is Lavanini. England trying to get

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Argentina towards the touchline, away comes Lavanini. Landajo. De La

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Fuente. Promising from Argentina, penalty, no arms in the tackle.

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Penalty advantage being played. Landajo. Here is Moyano. Argentina

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to within a Yarde and a half. Landajo wants it, Matera -- Matera

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outside him. They come instead through the three quarters. And they

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score. Straight back. Tuculet opens Argentina's account. Absolute

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fireworks in this game. Starting the game as they finished last week,

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Argentina getting powerful carries, great footwork of Tuculet, runs

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between Brown and Yarde, scores a great try. Straight back into it.

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Full house here at the stadium. Eruption of sound.

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Sanchez, who last week passed 500 points for Argentina.

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Adds a few more to the tally. And we are all square in Santa Fe is. That

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will have settled Sanchez. You can see the difference, the real

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physical carries, Hartley penalised for no arms, just using his

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shoulder. You can see at this contact comes in, just puts his

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shoulder in, he was going to get penalised by that -- for that by the

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referee. It is Pieretto, and in the warm up, they were using the tight

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head prop Pieretto a lot. Escaped down the touchline by Boffelli.

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Danny Care gets up, in discomfort from the contact. Matera out to make

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an impact from the start. Landajo. Turnover ball for England. Or is it?

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It is, turnover is good says John Lacey, and away comes Danny Care,

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play on says the referee, here is big, strong Nathan Hughes. Had a

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good game in San Juan, and Genge to Launchbury, Launchbury... Well, it

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was nearly his second try scoring pass, it went forward, England have

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another penalty, Hartley slows everything down. Says, let's go for

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the posts. Three outstanding hits from the England forwards, doubling

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up in the tackle, one low, one hi, knocking the physical Argentine

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ball-carriers backwards. George Ford, Knox penalties and

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conversions over from all angles and distances last week. Danny Care,

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Landajo, not ten metres! Play on, both scrum-halves seeking guidance

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from the referee. Over it goes. George Ford two out of

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two, Argentina 7-10 England. A little bit of wind just holding the

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ball up. Argentina playing with the wind currently. Sanchez pulls

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everybody back a few paces, then goes long. Mike Brown.

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The important thing for England today is that they work hard on the

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discipline. They cannot give cheap penalties away. They know Argentina

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will come hard at them all -- at the maul. They have to try to defend

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this maul legally. Creevy finds Desio. Leguizamon turns the driving

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maul into a ruck, Creevy weights. Support from his prop, Noguera.

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Leguizamon again, shall decide Care, Moyano, Landajo -- Leguizamon shoves

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aside Danny Care. It is not all about running around, there is huge

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contact, and it has spilled out of the tackle. Solid defending by

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England. Nathan Hughes. Much better discipline from England. Argentina,

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you watch this real power step from Leguizamon, Knox Danny Care over.

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George Ford on the defensive line holding his ground and winning the

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turnover. Argentina trying to keep the ball at the short side again,

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they attack their last week. Two number eight, last to go down

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Hughes and Leguizamon, interesting, Leguizamon trying to ask the crowd

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to be quiet as Ford prepared the penalty. Few are more difficult

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things to do in rugby than keep an Argentine crowd quiet! They are very

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excitable, which is great for rugby, isn't it? To hear the crowd get so

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involved, so passionate for their rugby.

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There is more work for the referee to do at the scrummage. Nigel Owens

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on the far side, and England have been penalised, so, anti-. I am not

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sure what they have been penalised for, working the gaps, and they were

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talking about the gaps. One thing Lacey said to the England team is to

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make sure they don't put weight forward on the setup. Looking at the

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bind, they have been pushing that bind forward.

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The upshot is that Sanchez has a chance to level the score.

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It goes wide. Flag stayed down. England's lead remains three. Time

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out. REFEREE: We need to check that.

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Nigel Owens is underneath the posts. Felt it had to be checked. Here we

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go. Not much in that. I would say that

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has gone through. Wow. It goals depends when it crosses... Penalty

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in the end is awarded! Apologies to Nicolas Sanchez from everybody I

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suppose. The kick is good. And we are all square. We had just about

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everything a game of rugby could offer last week, we didn't have

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that. Boffelli. Not a bad kick, way downfield. It doesn't want to go too

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long. Good ground made. Nathan Hughes, will he have a blast? Know,

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leaves that for Mike Brown. Territorial gain for the Pumas.

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Really good territorial gain. The pledge is only 94 metres long. Using

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the surplus of that pitch to give Argentina the possession and the

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territory they need. Lavanini with the catch. Penalty advantage to

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Argentina. Joe Launchbury. In the way. Pointed out by Landajo. Side

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entry. Another technical penalty for England. They are allowing Argentina

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to win the ball on the front of the line-out and then trying to fit it

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into touch. Alternative penalty in the middle of the field. All of side

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says John Lacey. This is an easier kick for Sanchez. The ball hasn't

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left the line-out, the bags have to stay back ten metres. They didn't. A

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little bit of fun and games on the floor. Collapsed malt. Robshaw

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doesn't have to roll away. He can stay there. Two penalties given.

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Firstly for side entry per Chris Robshaw and secondly for the bikes

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encroaching ten metres bid with the ball had left the line-out. England

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giving away a couple of technical penalties. One at the scrum and two

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at the line-up so far. The touch judges will be more vigilant than

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ever. That looks good. The crowd says so. Argentina having gone 7-0

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down are now 13-10 in front. Very good response from Argentina. Coming

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to England's ill discipline. Important they are very disciplined

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in this game. High towards Boffelli. Orlando the centre rows in front. It

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could have led to trouble. Good ground made by the hooker and the

:35:09.:35:14.

captain. More ground made. The back row involved. Front row involved.

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All Argentina already upped the ten metre line. Tuculet still going.

:35:20.:35:28.

Great run by the full-back. Was there a high tackle? The touch judge

:35:29.:35:34.

will have a look at that. I think he has alerted Nigel Owens to it. Jonny

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May. He was back for England, but is the referee?

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He carried very strongly, Tuculet. Marland Yarde in with the high

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tackle. The England captain Dylan Hartley

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has been warned. High tackle. Penalty for Argentina. No ball on

:36:14.:36:23.

the field at the moment. England just dropping off they tackled

:36:24.:36:28.

there. Harry Williams missing one, Danny Care missing one, Joe

:36:29.:36:37.

Launchbury. Sanchez Mike puts it to within 18 metres. Tuculet running

:36:38.:36:49.

through Sam Underhill. Marland Yarde coming in at the side and going in

:36:50.:37:01.

height. -- hi. Clearly wants to take his time. The referee once the ball

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in. The players swoop around Lavanini. They have to get the ball

:37:07.:37:13.

back. Have England get their hands on the ball? Excellent work. Chris

:37:14.:37:21.

Robshaw has stolen the ball for England. Robshaw wins the ball.

:37:22.:37:33.

Great defensive work from Robshaw at the front of the line-out. And

:37:34.:37:37.

Charlie Yuill is getting through. -- Ewels. They can exert some

:37:38.:37:49.

pressure in their own 22. Both sides of the scrum looking to gain an

:37:50.:37:56.

advantage. Argentina will try to get forward as the ball is put in. Put

:37:57.:37:59.

England on the back foot. Argentina go for the surge, scrum

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turns. Referee allows played to go on but it is lit. The whistle has

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gone, Ellis Genge. Huge pressure by Argentina. England will have to face

:38:34.:38:39.

it again immediately. Great pressure. This is what playing in

:38:40.:38:45.

Argentina is about. Argentina won the turnover. A little not gone from

:38:46.:38:56.

Leguizamon in the tackle. Agustin Creevy good little football skills

:38:57.:39:02.

at the end. England tried to go forward on the central.

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Argentina, they love, if we can see that ankle again, you can see the

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whole scrum the work, as they come down. They all pull their arms in

:39:27.:39:39.

together. They all work together. It is a real nine man operation.

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Landajo has a huge part to play with it. Inside looking out. This is very

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much the world within the world. It is a penalty for England. A

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technical penalty by Pieretto. You have got to scrum square. John Lacey

:40:22.:40:29.

judging that the angle was inside Ellis Genge onto Dylan Hartley which

:40:30.:40:37.

is why the scrum went backwards. George Ford provides the extra

:40:38.:40:50.

relief. Enrique period to. -- Pieretto that was easy to give. He

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has got to get his hips square. Joe Launchbury with the catch. England

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go sideways and then forwards. Nathan Hughes hasn't had much to run

:41:12.:41:17.

onto yet, the big number eight. Danny Care, did that get in touch,

:41:18.:41:27.

Boffelli. A good follow-up tackle by Launchbury. Here is the other second

:41:28.:41:31.

row Lavanini on the other side, Sanchez gets the boot to it and it

:41:32.:41:36.

bubbles away from Danny Care, Mike Brown there to launch a

:41:37.:41:44.

counterattack. Good tackle on him by Alemanno. England suddenly with the

:41:45.:41:49.

chance to run up to halfway through the captain Dylan Hartley. Turnover

:41:50.:41:55.

for Argentina. Penalty is won by Argentina.

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Argentina implying the chopped tackle by Dylan Hartley, allowing

:42:07.:42:19.

Creevy to get on the ball. Putting him on the floor and Creevy is very

:42:20.:42:27.

strong in there. The right call from John Lacey. I think you can call

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Agustin Creevy and express of Captain! -- expressive captain.

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The front rows and referee talking scrummaging. Sanchez just thinks

:42:48.:43:01.

about accuracy. And sort of failed the test a little bit, just pulled

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it wide. England are only three points down, still in this game,

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under huge pressure at the moment. A really good test for them.

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Leguizamon read it well because that was coming out of the sun at him.

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Landajo waits and finds Tomas Lavanini. Sanchez. He ducks, darts

:43:37.:43:48.

and goes. Mike thumping tackle. I think it is Harry Williams who made

:43:49.:43:54.

the tackle. Somehow Argentina have managed to regain possession.

:43:55.:44:00.

Sanchez tests Aik Brown, the full-back took it well. Gets half

:44:01.:44:11.

through the tackle. Genge. There has been plenty of running but the

:44:12.:44:13.

tackling has been ferocious as well. Care, Yarde follows up with the

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tackle. Just seeing Chris Robshaw at his very best. Great tackled by Sam

:44:40.:44:44.

Underhill on the kick chase and Robshaw comes so fast to win the

:44:45.:44:48.

turnover. England winning that territory battle. Really good chase.

:44:49.:44:56.

Tuculet catches the ball, Marland Yarde, look at the speed of

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Underhill, two back row forwards getting in really fast, really good

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territory gained by England. Great technique employed.

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George Ford. It's a lovely old stadium. It is now named after a

:45:18.:45:40.

general from the Wars of independence, the war that followed

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to make Argentina that sort of Federal Republic that it is now.

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Ford likes it. Touch judges like it. The scoreboard is level. 13 points

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apiece. George Ford just continuing on from last week, exemplary kicking

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performance. The difference between the two fly-halves is the accuracy

:46:17.:46:30.

of Ford's goal-kicking. Sanchez. Piers Francis, we haven't seen much

:46:31.:46:37.

of the England midfield yet. Argentina have had a lot of

:46:38.:46:42.

possession since the start. Leguizamon has had lots to do, Harry

:46:43.:46:49.

Williams has felt the heat in the scrum. That is how we expected

:46:50.:46:53.

Argentina to come out. We expected them to a physical and they have

:46:54.:46:58.

been in the contact areas, a good kicking game, England have been ill

:46:59.:47:02.

disciplined which is not allowed them to have the ball. Boffelli,

:47:03.:47:11.

Mike Brown Reddit beautifully. Brown on his own. Frist up in support!

:47:12.:47:16.

Francis is there! Brilliant by England! Majestic by Mike Brown. His

:47:17.:47:27.

timing onto that kick was sensational and then to have the

:47:28.:47:33.

presence of mind to run, Sanchez going for the crossfield kick but

:47:34.:47:39.

watch Brown in the air, fantastic and watched his running line. Space

:47:40.:47:45.

in the five metre channel. Piers Francis runs a superb support line.

:47:46.:47:51.

One-handed off-load, rate work to score the try. Mike Brown changed

:47:52.:48:00.

his line but Piers Francis changed his, read the pass will. Creative

:48:01.:48:06.

space in the channel to stop the Argentine defence come across to

:48:07.:48:15.

make the tackle on Brown. What a game again! Fantastic, it just goes

:48:16.:48:23.

on and on. George Ford having had a kick to level the scores almost

:48:24.:48:27.

immediately as one to put England up to 20 points and a converted try

:48:28.:48:32.

clear, which is some reply. Will it curl? No, it won't.

:48:33.:48:54.

England's new lead stands at five points. An interesting tactic from

:48:55.:49:02.

Argentina. They have been using their power runners to good effect,

:49:03.:49:06.

but Brown timed that perfectly and just watch how he sets up Tuculet,

:49:07.:49:16.

allows Francis great support line in the corner. Back in action. Jonny

:49:17.:49:21.

May takes the cake. -- kick. Nigel Owens, who refereed last week,

:49:22.:49:43.

has swapped with John Lacey. Lacey the man in the middle.

:49:44.:50:05.

Ortega Desio again the target, Argentina, mistake, they won't want

:50:06.:50:12.

England to have a full advantage. So we come back to the scrum. That was

:50:13.:50:17.

a really good running line from Ortega Desio. Unfortunately for

:50:18.:50:23.

handling skills. The ball was fired at him, the pass, creating the

:50:24.:50:31.

knock-on. We seek Leguizamon, fired that pass to Matera. They want to

:50:32.:50:41.

bring Matera into the game, but it seems he is a slow starter. It is

:50:42.:50:46.

not the any more, nearly into the last moments of the first half. Time

:50:47.:51:01.

has shot by. George Ford with a variation, that has gone very high,

:51:02.:51:07.

taken by Tuculet. Tuculet did well to present, Sanchez Way back in his

:51:08.:51:18.

22, but Matera on hand. Better by the wing forward. Allows the captain

:51:19.:51:25.

to make a yard. Orlando can't get past Hartley. Landajo takes his

:51:26.:51:34.

time. Sanchez is going to put a boot to it. Straight down the middle,

:51:35.:51:43.

very deliberate by Sanchez. Jonny May. Tuculet didn't make the mark.

:51:44.:51:57.

Did go for touch this time. England are putting a lot of pressure on

:51:58.:52:02.

Sanchez and trying to stop him from kicking, really working hard to get

:52:03.:52:05.

charge downs. That is forcing Sanchez just to change his mind a

:52:06.:52:10.

bit, not getting the accurate kicking that he would like to imply.

:52:11.:52:14.

Hartley quite happy to get on with the game quickly. Charlie Ewels the

:52:15.:52:23.

try scorer. Here is Sam Underhill, little chance for the new wing

:52:24.:52:26.

forward to have a blast. Harry Williams surges clear. Up to the 22.

:52:27.:52:35.

Charlie Ewels docs it. A rare mistake by the buyer second row.

:52:36.:52:42.

Smart play by Danny Care attacking the Argentine forwards around the

:52:43.:52:48.

rock, attacking the near side of the ruck. Charlie Ewels, a really good

:52:49.:52:54.

low-power tackle. Ellis Genge looks on, just paused

:52:55.:53:18.

while Lucas Noguera Paz some attention. That was a really good

:53:19.:53:24.

scrum. Some really good height. Just as the ball came into they all sang

:53:25.:53:31.

together to stop the Argentine push driving them backwards. -- they all

:53:32.:53:37.

sang together. Noguera back to his feet. Good crowd

:53:38.:53:58.

here in Santa Fe, very much part of the new Argentine approach, to take

:53:59.:54:02.

the Pumas around the country and not just play all their tests in one as

:54:03.:54:08.

I raise. Now they go all over there huge country, from the far West to

:54:09.:54:13.

Santa Fe. Argentina tried to generate more

:54:14.:54:31.

shove, John Lacey gets them to hurry up. George Ford with the tackle.

:54:32.:54:47.

Lavanini to Creevy, England read that as well. Sanchez back in the

:54:48.:55:08.

pocket where we go this time. Towards Mike Brown. Jonny May off

:55:09.:55:17.

his wing in close support of Brown. The young England forwards just

:55:18.:55:39.

knocking the ball on in the tackle, some really big physical heads

:55:40.:55:41.

coming in from all the Argentine defenders, but good to see Brown and

:55:42.:55:48.

may working hard together. Another low tackle. And Underhill just

:55:49.:55:55.

spilling the ball as he hit the floor. Let's go, says John Lacey.

:55:56.:56:13.

One and a half minutes to go. The Argentine scrum has been going

:56:14.:56:18.

forward. John Lacey has made them play the ball away from it, good

:56:19.:56:21.

defensive technique by England. Free kick, Argentina. Landajo took

:56:22.:56:47.

it quickly. Ortega Desio in support. Lavanini, Sanchez didn't get a hand

:56:48.:56:58.

to it, play on. De la Fuente. Get past Danny Care, de la Fuente, a

:56:59.:57:06.

resurgent Argentina on the stroke of half-time. Noguera drives it on.

:57:07.:57:24.

Sanchez. Crossing, crossing, he was coming off his wing. An injury back

:57:25.:57:35.

in the own have. Clear and obvious from Lavanini. Alemanno going in

:57:36.:57:44.

front. He is a big blow to get in front of you. As Sanchez is running

:57:45.:57:51.

across the field he needs to be squaring up a bit more to bring a

:57:52.:57:55.

man like Alemanno onto the ball. Jonny May is down. Matera is happy

:57:56.:58:09.

to go. De la Fuente played very well last week. Exceptional break them.

:58:10.:58:14.

But what England have been smart with is their scrambled defence,

:58:15.:58:18.

their work off the ball has been exceptional. They did very well

:58:19.:58:22.

there to get behind the ball and stop the Argentine attack. George

:58:23.:58:34.

Ford restarts play. The ball goes into the moat which kills around

:58:35.:58:42.

this ground. The hooter goes for half-time. -- goes around this

:58:43.:58:53.

ground. England secure. Ellis Genge has his hands on the ball. Lavanini

:58:54.:58:59.

came through. Genge crawls a couple of yards. Care behind Boffelli.

:59:00.:59:06.

Boffelli jigs checks were Marland Yarde is and that will be half-time.

:59:07.:59:14.

John Lacey ends it and motherly heads for the changing rooms at the

:59:15.:59:18.

far end of the ground. Argentina 13-18 England.

:59:19.:59:27.

STUDIO: And remember it was 17-13 to Argentina at half-time last weekend

:59:28.:59:30.

and you know what happened at that. Ryan Moore we had a try -fest,

:59:31.:59:34.

heading that way again. I said last week it was a gloriously flawed game

:59:35.:59:39.

and it is the same here. England starting very well. It could have

:59:40.:59:42.

been even better. Very well-organised first try then it

:59:43.:59:48.

kept Argentina in the game by three or four success of unnecessary

:59:49.:59:51.

penalties and actually Jones will be very pleased that the experience of

:59:52.:59:57.

Brown and Ford behind and Rob Short and Launchbury capped England in the

:59:58.:00:04.

lead. I love it, gloriously flawed, however it is very entertaining,

:00:05.:00:08.

Ugo. It certainly is. Six times England gave possession away early

:00:09.:00:13.

doors but it was great for them to get into the game in terms of the

:00:14.:00:18.

game plan but defensively poor last week and conceding four tries, this

:00:19.:00:21.

week they have missed 11 tackles that will be a key fix. Looking at

:00:22.:00:25.

the stats Argentina have had a lot of the ball. Yes, they haven't made

:00:26.:00:30.

the most of it. The game has so much momentum. When you have that much

:00:31.:00:35.

possession and territory, they had at four minute period where England

:00:36.:00:38.

were under the cosh and they conceded penalties and one or two

:00:39.:00:43.

penalties and they missed one and that gave the moment and England has

:00:44.:00:48.

slowly clawed their way back into this second-half. Let's take a look

:00:49.:00:55.

at some of the big moments. Charlie Ewels getting his first try for

:00:56.:00:59.

England. I love this simplicity, it is beautiful. Carrie, keep the ball

:01:00.:01:03.

alive. Quick ball is what everybody wants. They have come from the

:01:04.:01:10.

second row, Launchbury and Ewels and they are powerful tall guys. This is

:01:11.:01:18.

so clean, it is simple basic rugby and attacks in space and they come

:01:19.:01:22.

with pace. Always going to be difficult to defend against.

:01:23.:01:27.

They will be frustrated how they started last week and they couldn't

:01:28.:01:34.

have kept it simpler. Simple try. It is tit for tat, Ugo, because

:01:35.:01:40.

Argentina comes stalking back. , defensively poor. I think Yarde

:01:41.:01:47.

should be blitzing. He can't be hovering like that. That is not the

:01:48.:01:55.

aggressive press we know in English rugby but fair play to Argentina,

:01:56.:02:00.

they bounced back well and it was simple, Tuculet outstanding last

:02:01.:02:04.

week, finished well. The Pumas are showing us what they can do. How

:02:05.:02:08.

many times have we seen teams not be precise and decide what to do? Last

:02:09.:02:13.

week they took it short and smashed it over and at least this week they

:02:14.:02:20.

had Sanchez and space to running. Yesterday the defence was passive,

:02:21.:02:23.

but at least they had the ambition to go for it. Have you seen a

:02:24.:02:29.

dramatic improvement in Argentina, being five metres out and able to

:02:30.:02:33.

execute. Perhaps a few years ago we wouldn't have seen that. They called

:02:34.:02:37.

it early, normally that is a last option when they have been battering

:02:38.:02:41.

the line. They think, we might as well. This time it was only two or

:02:42.:02:46.

three phases in and they saw the gap and have the confidence to do that.

:02:47.:02:57.

The Ugo have been doing a lot of that in Super Rugby and it shows. --

:02:58.:03:02.

the Jaguares. If Eddie Jones wants England better than they will backs

:03:03.:03:06.

you cannot afford to miss opportunities. We saw evidence of

:03:07.:03:10.

that the other day from New Zealand. This is what Danny Care does best,

:03:11.:03:14.

get tempo into the game. They moment they get over the advancing line,

:03:15.:03:19.

this is exactly what they do, then it is down to execution. That is

:03:20.:03:25.

four on one, three on the end with Launchbury, Genge, catch, pass,

:03:26.:03:29.

should be a simple try. Simplicity in the game takes you from being

:03:30.:03:33.

number two to number one in the world. The signs of a side coming

:03:34.:03:38.

together and not knowing each other well because Francis there, the new

:03:39.:03:43.

boy, should have got Launchbury and Genge out of the way and boss the

:03:44.:03:50.

situation. Let him use his footwork and trickery and big passing, but

:03:51.:03:54.

when you get forwards in the way they think they are bags, they are

:03:55.:04:00.

not! Get out of the way, Brian! LAUGHTER There is a lot George will

:04:01.:04:05.

be pleased about -- Jones will be pleased about a first half. When

:04:06.:04:09.

England have possession they have looked threatening and if you can

:04:10.:04:14.

create things, you are in better position than scrapping when things

:04:15.:04:17.

are ill disciplined. You have the situation where they need to be more

:04:18.:04:22.

precise and exact. You have been frustrated by England's mistakes. Of

:04:23.:04:28.

course because we want perfection. We are not moaning. We are moaning!

:04:29.:04:34.

But for the right reason. This is a flare-up, you understand that but

:04:35.:04:37.

the problem is they give the penalty away. Another one here, the wrong

:04:38.:04:43.

side. This is on the ten metre line, it is not going anywhere, you can

:04:44.:04:47.

afford to give them five metres here. The old adage, you cannot

:04:48.:04:52.

defend kicks at goal. You are right. What we see is a succession of

:04:53.:04:57.

penalties, painting the wrong picture in the referee's mind. This

:04:58.:05:03.

is Yarde, pressure on pressure and pressure, or within five minutes,

:05:04.:05:08.

they have given away free needless penalties, and that allows... They

:05:09.:05:13.

are between the ten metre line is, not an extremist. You have to giving

:05:14.:05:17.

them credit, they have scored wonderful tries on this tour. Yes,

:05:18.:05:24.

the last try is amazing in itself, although... And off-load is still a

:05:25.:05:29.

pass, give him that much. The pass here from the Pumas not executed to

:05:30.:05:38.

well. Brown has read it very well, stepped the defence and move the

:05:39.:05:42.

defence so there is space for Francis to come through. He did

:05:43.:05:47.

brilliantly to get there in support. Mike Brown as safe as houses in the

:05:48.:05:50.

air. He will be disappointed that Corey Allen in New Zealand instead

:05:51.:05:56.

of himself. He is showing what he can do. The ability to turn defence

:05:57.:06:00.

into attack but also the dexterity to get the off-load away and

:06:01.:06:04.

France's scores his first England try. He did it again because last

:06:05.:06:09.

week he had "Go with Ford and this week he is the scorer. The beauty of

:06:10.:06:15.

that is Brian has been criticised for not passing a lot of his career

:06:16.:06:21.

but what he has done there is drag the defence infield and Francis has

:06:22.:06:25.

read it. We will look ahead to the second half shortly. Let's bring you

:06:26.:06:29.

up-to-date with all the rugby from this weekend, lots of international

:06:30.:06:33.

matches, Wales beating Tonga yesterday and New Zealand trashing

:06:34.:06:37.

Samoa. We will talk Lions at full-time after they put in an

:06:38.:06:41.

excellent performance earlier today against the marry all backs. Gatlin

:06:42.:06:46.

called at six Wales and Scotland players, two in two put Scotland

:06:47.:06:56.

coach Gregor Townsend doing a marvellous job beating Australia in

:06:57.:06:58.

Sydney. We will hear from him later. Ireland beat Japan and a fine win

:06:59.:07:00.

for England women beating New Zealand. England's first away

:07:01.:07:05.

victory in New Zealand since 2001. They recovered from 14-7 down after

:07:06.:07:09.

half an hour to win a ninth game in the row on Sunday and Emily Scaratt,

:07:10.:07:15.

Lydia Thompson, Marlie Packer and clicky -- Vicky Fleetwood scoring

:07:16.:07:20.

the tries. Let's hear from England captain Sarah Hunter. Immensely

:07:21.:07:25.

proud. Through this competition we have done well. One thing we set as

:07:26.:07:28.

a target was to find out where we are as a squad and a team before we

:07:29.:07:34.

came out here. Tonight Show bout, coming across to rugby mad country

:07:35.:07:40.

is not easy, to come and play away, we found out the hard way when we

:07:41.:07:45.

lost three tests three years ago. Tonight was a showcase of women's

:07:46.:07:49.

rugby, the top two sides in the world going hammer and tongs, and we

:07:50.:07:54.

are happy about our performance. A magnificent achievement, well done

:07:55.:07:59.

to Sarah. On the BBC we have a magnificent summer of great British

:08:00.:07:59.

sport. Before you know it the autumn

:08:00.:08:55.

internationals will be starting as well. Sailing for you tomorrow on

:08:56.:09:02.

BBC Two. Challenge Cup action Ben. That is the last of the four rugby

:09:03.:09:09.

league quarterfinals. We also have rowing presented by Sir Matthew

:09:10.:09:15.

Pinsent. A huge game at the Oval tomorrow, big rivalry, Pakistan

:09:16.:09:22.

taking on India. Then tennis from Queens, BBC Two, Sue Barker

:09:23.:09:24.

presenting, can Andy Murray defend his title?

:09:25.:09:31.

We are off, the second test, Argentina against England in Santa

:09:32.:09:38.

Fe. Launchbury stretches out and give the past and it is a try.

:09:39.:09:44.

Through the crew quarters and they score. Straight back. Fun and games

:09:45.:09:51.

on the floor in the collapsed more. Mike Brown read it beautifully.

:09:52.:09:57.

Brown on his own. Francis is there, brilliant for England. What a game

:09:58.:10:05.

again. LAUGHTER. Is goes on and on! Looking forward to the second half.

:10:06.:10:10.

We haven't seen an angry Argentina, we expect a backlash but they have

:10:11.:10:15.

been angry. They are feeling pressure. The season has been

:10:16.:10:19.

appalling, they have not set the world alight since the World Cup

:10:20.:10:23.

performances. They need to get bored of one another, they pay in the

:10:24.:10:29.

superb 18 as a Pumas side and spend too much time together. There is no

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inspiration yet. Argentina have plateaued. We saw them burst into

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the scene, you mention the World Cup, their introduction the

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championship helped ring them to another level but ten losses from

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the last 12, terrible defeat last week, no pun sure-fire today, we

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hope to see better in the second half. From an English perspective

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more of the same. Danny Care said after last week, I have not played

:10:55.:10:58.

like that for a long time, a fast game. He might be saying the same

:10:59.:11:02.

thing at the end of this game, saying I have not played like this

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since last week? Eddie Jones will just want more control. When England

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get awed at -- organised they look capable side. Let's take you back to

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Santa Fe, and this stadium by the way is known as the Elephant's

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Graveyard take it away. COMMENTATOR: It is, it comes from

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the world of football but applies to rugby as well. Argentina haven't

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lost here. They beat Ireland in 2007 and Italy a couple of years ago.

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They trail England by five points at half-time. Referee John Lacey

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just... Can you hear me now? I have got you now. Communication issues

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amongst the officials. It seems the players have been

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recharged and recharge their batteries but the referee's

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microphone has not been recharged! The slightest pause. Sam Underhill,

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the young England flanker. Piers Francis. It's a young England team

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out here in Argentina but one wind behind them, leading at half-time,

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one half to go on this tour. Sanchez gets us under way, Launchbury goes

:12:47.:12:57.

high. Here is Underhill. Danny Care weights and watches as Nathan Hughes

:12:58.:12:58.

comes away with it. Leguizamon catches well, under

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pressure from Underhill, and especially Jonny May.

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Alemanno. He rumbles and rolls through a couple of tackles, the big

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second row. Landajo. He goes high. Desio got hands to it. It has come

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away. Ellis Genge. Matera tries to hold him off the ground. Genge sets

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out the ruck. Ford. Sanchez makes the mark and goes. Boffelli.

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Oops! Argentina have to regroup. England steal it through Chris

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Robshaw. Jonny May. Couldn't pick it up first time, goes backwards to go

:14:19.:14:23.

around, Ford, long to Henry Slade. Mike Brown.

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Genge to his fellow prop Harry Williams.

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Oh, beautiful angle run by Robshaw. Ford. Switches play. Genge, gets a

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really good pass away to Slade, but it was knocked on. Argentina trying

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to play out from their own half, trying to find some rhythm, but they

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can't get it going because of the really good England defence. If

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England can start well in this first ten minutes they could blow away

:15:10.:15:12.

this Argentine side. They lack confidence with the ball in hand.

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You see hardly getting the pass away to Genge, Genge looking up, just a

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knock-on, contact by Slade. We saw an outstanding pass and running line

:15:25.:15:29.

from Robshaw there, brilliant pass from Ford. We didn't see a lot of

:15:30.:15:33.

that in the first half, important to see that in the second half.

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Leguizamon finds Landajo. There could be numbers here. Sanchez.

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Landajo with a show and go. Orlando, not held, it carries on, brilliant

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to Leguizamon. Robshaw just the once down to the wing, advantage being

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played, Argentina, their best passage of play in the entire game,

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can it lead to something? Landajo with another sweet little pass to

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the scrum-half. It is all about the advantage now. Argentina have been

:16:30.:16:38.

stopped slightly. Delicately played. Argentina have to be careful. We are

:16:39.:16:43.

still playing the advantage. Sanchez knew what he was doing. The

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advantage for the high tackle by Mike Brown stopping right at the

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end, as good full-backs do, just got his timing slightly wrong, got it

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high. England work hard to get behind the defence. They are showing

:17:05.:17:09.

their fitness after the made by De La Fuente.

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Good support play, as you said. Orlando carrying well. Great flowed

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through to Leguizamon. He has carried strongly. Not many people

:17:21.:17:26.

bash Robshaw out of the way. Brown just got his timing wrong. England

:17:27.:17:31.

were then able to slow up Argentina which meant they kicked the ball

:17:32.:17:38.

away. Sanchez, missed with his last penalty attempt. Will want to get

:17:39.:17:44.

this. Oh, he's pushed that horribly wide. Oh! Six points go begging from

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his last two kicks. The gap, five points.

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Was that another high tackle? Nigel Owens... Argentina through Lavanini,

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seem to think it was high. Jonny May and Lavanini still at it.

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Apologies for the rightness of the language! -- the ripeness of the

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language. Lacey just wants to check the original tackle which was the

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spark point. It seems as if it just went high, Jonny May comes in. It is

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a high tackle. There is ducking into the tackle. Clear and obvious.

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Moyano, and because Jonny May doesn't let him go this might be

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yellow. Oh, no, just a penalty. John Lacey the coolest head out there. As

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I say, Creevy is expressive! The first bit of real emotion we have

:20:01.:20:01.

seen their from the Argentine side. Sanchez down the line. Now, while

:20:02.:20:22.

their blood is boiling and while they have a territorial advantage,

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they really should be looking to get something out of this. We have a

:20:26.:20:34.

replacement on the Argentine side as they lose the ball then fight to get

:20:35.:20:39.

it, Guido Petti is on. Now, Chaparro on the front row,

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Guido Petti in the second. Chaparro played at tight head last week,

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comes on loosehead this week. Petti coming on early in the second row,

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had a good game for Argentina in that second half last week.

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Desio and Robshaw the wing forwards on the near side.

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Eddie Jones looks pretty cool, as well. Five points, his team's lead.

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Ellis Genge. Change your behaviour or you go in the bin, yellow card,

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you understand? Pieretto singled out, last chance. A warning to the

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two young props. Nobody wants to give an inch, Genge is certainly not

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giving an inch. Pieretto constantly putting his knee on the floor. It is

:22:37.:22:40.

important that he keeps that up otherwise he will be penalised by

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John Lacey. Argentina try to get the second shove on. It's gone sideways.

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It has been dropped. Lacey says get on with it. England get the

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turnover. Yarde has knocked it on. The Argentine scrum will be

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frustrated, they feel they are on the front foot going forward but

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Lacey is calling the ball out as is right and Argentina make another

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substitution. Herrera comes on. Ramiro Herrera comes on instead of

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Enrique Pieretto. So the Pumas front row hasn't got any smaller. Here is

:23:39.:23:50.

the new man, Herrera. Always frustrating for a forward pack when

:23:51.:23:54.

you are going forward and the ball is dropped in the Centre for the

:23:55.:23:56.

first phase attack. We had a surge by Argentina, but

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this opening ten minutes of the second half has been a scrappy old

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business. Argentina go for the big drive. England give, then Nathan

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Hughes manages to pick up and come away with it. Henry Slade has lost

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the ball. Orlando passes world Tuculet. Tuculet runs into Joe

:24:29.:24:35.

Launchbury. Argentina line-up the big forwards. Matera. And then kick

:24:36.:24:47.

again. Jonny May was back safely enough. The crowd felt that was

:24:48.:24:55.

forward from Jonny May to Ford. Now, this could go all the way. Very well

:24:56.:25:06.

judged by George Ford. Now kicking downwind. Not much of its. A great

:25:07.:25:11.

way to relieve pressure, just to kick the ball straight at the posts.

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Luckily it is only a seven metre goal area, in-goal area, luckily the

:25:16.:25:22.

ball did stop dead. Allowing England to get the possession back now from

:25:23.:25:36.

this 22 restart. Sanchez, long. Nathan Hughes.

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Francis. That one doesn't come off. Surging through, the bounce is

:25:47.:25:54.

all-important, the bounce is going to work in their favour! Spectacular

:25:55.:26:05.

kick from Francis, just charged down. Matera under pressure after

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the first test, scores in the second. You see this tackle on the

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short side, nothing on for Francis, he tries to kick the ball through,

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showing great footballing skills, Matera gets over the line.

:26:25.:26:32.

Just a slight change of momentum there to get Argentina on the front

:26:33.:26:43.

foot. He knows it! Oh! Under instructions to get more involved.

:26:44.:26:50.

And the delicate football skills as well to go with the raw power and

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strength. Now, then, Sanchez for the lead.

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Curls it, curls it, but not enough. We are all square in Santa Fe. A

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change on the England side as we re-examine Piers Francis's charged

:27:25.:27:29.

down cake. Back row forward Pablo Matera with the try. Matt Mullan is

:27:30.:27:37.

on for England, Jonny May in hot pursuit. Lavanini can't take it.

:27:38.:27:44.

It's going to be a throw to Argentina.

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Creevy rides the tackles, and hard tackles they were as well. Melon and

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lawn spree involved, Robshaw involved in the counter rucking. A

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lot going on there -- Mullan and Launchbury involved. A lot going on

:28:28.:28:32.

off the ball, over the ball, and now in the air. Jonny May under pressure

:28:33.:28:39.

from Ortega Desio, made as well, good pick-up by Mullan. Care to

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Ford, to Launchbury. Chaparro with the tackles... Was that a deliberate

:28:54.:29:02.

knock-on? By Orlando? Just the knock-on. Scrimmage. England

:29:03.:29:08.

starting to bring some phases together. We saw only one attack

:29:09.:29:15.

early on in this second half, and England just not finding their

:29:16.:29:19.

rhythm, knocking the ball on, or Argentina getting their hand in. We

:29:20.:29:26.

can see the kick from Francis, a speculative kick, not going anywhere

:29:27.:29:29.

with that kick, would have been better to push it down town. And

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build the pressure on Argentina. Tomas Lezana comes on, try scorer

:29:41.:29:43.

Pablo Matera comes off. Mullan did a really good job when he

:29:44.:30:00.

came on last week to secure the scrum. It is important for him to do

:30:01.:30:05.

that now. As England look to build some pressure, get some phases

:30:06.:30:07.

together to get on the front foot. Care gets the ball away from the

:30:08.:30:26.

scrummage. Again, Henry Slade has knocked it on. All turned over, to

:30:27.:30:32.

collect changes direction -- Tuculet changes direction. De La Fuente,

:30:33.:30:38.

loose to Mike Brown, and Brown is off. Brown finds Danny Care, Care

:30:39.:30:42.

for the line, England are back in the lead! Incredible pace from Brown

:30:43.:30:53.

and Care. Henry Slade knocks the ball on, counterattack back, try

:30:54.:30:59.

something speculative. De La Fuente, pour offload and simple

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counterattack from Brown into the space. Care reads him really well,

:31:04.:31:07.

the Harlequins team-mates looking well together.

:31:08.:31:11.

There is the float that goes astray. I suppose the referee must have said

:31:12.:31:18.

advantage over by that stage because there was a clear break by the

:31:19.:31:23.

Pumas. The referee called that really early, watched that. England

:31:24.:31:31.

have practised a lot from turnover ball and you can see how shocked

:31:32.:31:34.

they are when they receive turnovers.

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That is good. The flags are up. England seven points in the lead.

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As soon as the turnover occurred, the awareness of Care to pick up the

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run from Brown and he runs into touch. Piers Francis. He keeps it.

:32:41.:33:00.

Leguizamon onto it. Dylan Hartley. Nathan Hughes over the ball.

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Herrera of the new prop. Lezana another replacement. Lavanini,

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Creevy. England solid in their defensive, slow and release. Even

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now through the summer... Here they are now! Boffelli! Scored in the

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first test, scores in the second. It is another cracker of a game. Really

:34:06.:34:13.

patient build-up from Argentina. Find the numbers on the short side.

:34:14.:34:20.

Hartley beaten for pace. Boffelli scorers. Really good execution.

:34:21.:34:30.

England were so organised and then they weren't. Argentina just found

:34:31.:34:37.

an edge, manage to get a bit of go forward on the Carrie and beat them

:34:38.:34:45.

four numbers on the short side. On the hour mark we are a level again.

:34:46.:34:56.

25 points all. Some really good curries. Putting England on the back

:34:57.:35:08.

foot. De la Fuente mix-up with his error for his well executed pass.

:35:09.:35:13.

This time he did and is trite speculative off-load. Harry Williams

:35:14.:35:21.

has gone off. Some Underhill has gone off. Changes on the England

:35:22.:35:29.

side. As the try scorer sets off again. This time he is stopped. Good

:35:30.:35:41.

clearance, Argentina out of there own half, Agustin Creevy is off.

:35:42.:35:47.

Julian Montoya, he can play. Just building a little breather.

:35:48.:36:10.

Trusts his boot. We are back in the England have. It is setup for a

:36:11.:36:18.

great minutes again with Hernandez looking to come on.

:36:19.:36:31.

Mark Wilson is on for England, he played so well in the first test.

:36:32.:36:38.

Jonny May looks as though he is struggling a little bit with an

:36:39.:36:42.

ankle injury. Just talking to the bench. Nicolas Sanchez comes off.

:36:43.:36:50.

Captain Dylan Hartley stays on the field. All the changes start to

:36:51.:36:57.

happen now. Joe Launchbury wins, down to Danny Care, need and use,

:36:58.:37:02.

first time we have seen the big number eight on the charge. Robbs of

:37:03.:37:10.

passes well. -- Robshaw. Good tackling by Argentina. England

:37:11.:37:18.

controlled the ball well. Chris Robshaw, aurora goes up every time a

:37:19.:37:28.

tackle is made. -- a roar. Piers Francis, no way through for him.

:37:29.:37:33.

Care goes upstairs and that might be overdone. Advantage Argentina. Great

:37:34.:37:41.

defensive setup from Argentina. England running into brick walls,

:37:42.:37:46.

need to run in twos and threes trying to get a tip on pass. Trying

:37:47.:37:50.

to get it forward but Argentina match them with double tackles. Kept

:37:51.:37:55.

forcing Care to give the ball straight out. This is the new

:37:56.:38:05.

hooker, Will Collier is in on the front row. It has gone list. Wilson

:38:06.:38:16.

scrum-half, Hartley acting outside-half. Ford.

:38:17.:38:35.

It has come safely into the hands of the blue and white shirts. A little

:38:36.:38:45.

kick through, no foul, Marland Yarde turns. Chasers, picks it up, makes

:38:46.:38:53.

it to the halfway line exactly. Brown, there is room for England.

:38:54.:38:58.

Nathan Hughes. Piers Francis, Jonny May. Advantage England. A little

:38:59.:39:09.

phase of play. A lot better from England. Just moving towards an

:39:10.:39:14.

attack. Getting the ball away from the big heavy contacts. A smart kick

:39:15.:39:31.

from May enables to get possession back for England, five metres away

:39:32.:39:38.

from the Argentina line. Good attacking position. Nathan Hughes

:39:39.:39:47.

has the ball. It is now in the hands of Matt Mullan. Dylan Hartley has

:39:48.:39:59.

it. The twist and return and the slow progress towards the line.

:40:00.:40:06.

England claim they try, the referee agrees with them. Will Collier they

:40:07.:40:21.

try scorer. Good impact of the bench. Well played, the England

:40:22.:40:25.

forwards, they set them all up beautifully. Really good body

:40:26.:40:30.

heights. You see Mullan and Hughes working in front of the ball

:40:31.:40:34.

creating a really good luck and England just keep moving forward.

:40:35.:40:39.

Partly doing some real damage, collier finding the line, but the

:40:40.:40:43.

England have won the tactical battle up front. They have stopped

:40:44.:40:50.

Argentina's Maul going and scoring. Just got the upper hand. Well done

:40:51.:40:54.

to the England forwards. England four tries last week, four

:40:55.:41:08.

tries again today. George Ford with the conversion.

:41:09.:41:38.

The lead grows. Seven points again. George Ford straight through the

:41:39.:41:47.

middle. More changes on the England side. Alex Lozowski is on offer

:41:48.:42:00.

Piers Francis. Juan Martin Hernandez high towards Joe Launchbury. Mark

:42:01.:42:15.

Wilson and Nathan Hughes. Penalty advantage when Nathan Hughes went

:42:16.:42:18.

down and he didn't like it. Nathan Hughes is hurt. He came at the side,

:42:19.:42:32.

Lavanini, chopped him at his knee, dangerous play from Lavanini.

:42:33.:42:39.

Straightaway Nathan Hughes knew. What's that technique. Very

:42:40.:42:43.

dangerous to catch ride on his knee. That has got to be the end of Nathan

:42:44.:42:48.

Hughes. The need didn't want to go that way at all. -- need.

:42:49.:42:58.

England are using their Maul again to great effect.

:42:59.:43:19.

Hartley to throw. Hughes the number eight at scrum-half. Just have to

:43:20.:43:26.

see how he sets off after this line-out. Chris Robshaw sets off

:43:27.:43:31.

pretty fast up to the 22, gets back-up. Support from Mullan. It is

:43:32.:43:47.

Lavanini again who made the tackle. But mature -- not sure how much arms

:43:48.:43:57.

was used. Knock-on by England. Relief for Argentina. Nathan Hughes

:43:58.:44:05.

is seriously moving very slowly towards this. Just coming into shot.

:44:06.:44:17.

What do you think? It is a big 12 minutes for him. He has worked

:44:18.:44:20.

really hard. Just starting to get himself into the game, carrying

:44:21.:44:24.

well. It is important that he stays on. Nick Isiekwe on the bench could

:44:25.:44:30.

bring some real energy. Slow scrum. Argentina go for the

:44:31.:45:07.

second drive. Told to use it. Long towards Mike Brown. Demi Solomona --

:45:08.:45:19.

Denny Solomona sets off in pursuit. The winner -- the winger who scored

:45:20.:45:26.

the winning try last week is on. Hernandez not entirely pleased with

:45:27.:45:31.

his kick. England forwards working really hard with the scrum. You can

:45:32.:45:35.

hear them: keep your feet, keep your feet, not to move an inch, and they

:45:36.:45:40.

haven't which means Argentina have to move the ball away and England

:45:41.:45:45.

get possession. A smart bit of play in the last line-out. Chris Robshaw

:45:46.:45:54.

and Dawn Hartley, the old heads working together. Ten and a little

:45:55.:45:59.

bit minutes left. England have lost the line-out. Great surge there.

:46:00.:46:16.

Beautiful catch by Bertranou. It is one of the frustrations of playing

:46:17.:46:22.

against, a technical penalty, Argentina on the front foot. Support

:46:23.:46:27.

player comes into the side, picked up by John Lacey. And the crowd gets

:46:28.:46:32.

frustrated. All coaches get frustrated in the type of moment,

:46:33.:46:34.

but well picked up. Great handling skills. Quick ball moved away. We

:46:35.:46:45.

are not going to see that side entry coming in. Tomas Lezana the player

:46:46.:46:55.

going down on the ball. He is about half a metre taller. George Ford

:46:56.:47:01.

just coming everything down, ten minutes to manage, less than ten

:47:02.:47:09.

minutes. Unbeaten on this tour. Bound to be some fireworks. From

:47:10.:47:15.

start to finish there has been something special about this little

:47:16.:47:26.

miniseries. Counter drive by Argentina. Danny Care house to go

:47:27.:47:41.

looking for it. Care again checks, Ford. Boffelli in the end gets it.

:47:42.:47:58.

Orlando couldn't take advantage. Just for a moment Argentina had

:47:59.:48:03.

numbers. Smart kick from George Ford. Great chase from Slade as

:48:04.:48:12.

well. England working really hard off the ball to get the defence

:48:13.:48:16.

setup. But allowing Argentina any room up to short side. Orlando makes

:48:17.:48:26.

the knock-on. Nick Isiekwe warms up on the sideline.

:48:27.:48:45.

Care feeds. Good secondary drive by England. Comes clear. Lozowski makes

:48:46.:49:07.

a yard or two. Robshaw drives it up. Again Lavanini flies in without much

:49:08.:49:17.

use of the arms. Care checks where four days, forward for the drop

:49:18.:49:23.

goal. Beautifully struck. George Ford. The management of the last few

:49:24.:49:31.

minutes. England stretched their lead and the crowd is silent. On

:49:32.:49:37.

this tour George Ford has been world-class. Showing us here a

:49:38.:49:43.

fantastic drop goal, well executed play from the scrum. Lozowski did

:49:44.:49:50.

well to get the go forward. Ford has kicked exemplary and he has been the

:49:51.:49:54.

difference in both Test matches. He has really come of age with his

:49:55.:49:59.

leadership, technical ability and his goal-kicking out of the hands

:50:00.:50:02.

has been exemplary. Argentina restart having made two changes.

:50:03.:50:19.

Six and a half minutes to go. England ten minutes and -- ten

:50:20.:50:32.

points in front. Tuculet the outside-half. Dumped by Nathan

:50:33.:50:36.

Hughes but the full-back gets up and carries on. And away come the Pumas.

:50:37.:50:49.

What is left in this game? Massive strength. Lezana involved. Herrera

:50:50.:51:09.

is up. A metre to go. The crowd Manus Island now. Hernandez. Matias

:51:10.:51:12.

Moroni. Bertranou the new scrum-half. John

:51:13.:51:29.

Lacey goes in to have a look. Held up. It is all about inches. And

:51:30.:51:39.

England defending heroically. Great work by Lozowski to get across. To

:51:40.:51:47.

help may in the tackle. Desperate work from Mullan to get underneath

:51:48.:51:54.

the ball. Backed up by Wilson. Bertranou the new scrum-half has had

:51:55.:51:58.

a haircut since last week. Held up over the line. By all rights

:51:59.:52:04.

Argentina should have scored them. They had numbers on the outside,

:52:05.:52:09.

they had to go forward, but great work from England. That scrambled

:52:10.:52:12.

defence from them, putting their bodies on the line. It is the end of

:52:13.:52:17.

the really long season and this England team has really fought hard

:52:18.:52:25.

together. Mark Wilson part of the operation, assisted by Matt Mullan,

:52:26.:52:30.

he has had an impact since he came on. He has performed very well,

:52:31.:52:36.

technically outstanding in the scrum but also his body had there to keep

:52:37.:52:41.

the player up and hold the ball up. England very smart. They have been

:52:42.:52:48.

doing work with Paul Gustard to improve their technical work in the

:52:49.:52:52.

contact area and you can see it coming through. Less than five

:52:53.:52:56.

minutes to go. Argentina Trail by ten points but they are within five

:52:57.:53:04.

metres from the England line. Chris Robshaw wills his team to do more.

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Make Hughes still on the field. Bertranou feeds the scrum. Takes a

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step back. It is going straight, nothing moving so far. Order comes.

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Leguizamon. Taken well by Care. Use comes away with that. Heresies who

:53:41.:53:54.

is available. Will Collier on the try scorer, Matt Mullan was also

:53:55.:53:59.

there. Care completes the defensive operation. That is what wins Test

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matches. Fantastic scrummaging from England. Really working hard

:54:06.:54:12.

together not to go back. Danny Care putting pressure on Leguizamon as he

:54:13.:54:18.

picked the ball out of the scrum, great timing can knock him

:54:19.:54:22.

backwards. The sharpness of Wilson again, over the ball to win the

:54:23.:54:28.

turnover. Watch Care come in really fast and Wilson shop into Leguizamon

:54:29.:54:34.

to pick the ball up. It has gone loose. England skipper top through

:54:35.:54:39.

their captain. Way back in his own 22, Joaquin

:54:40.:54:55.

Tuculet. He thinks there is time to go to the set piece. Two and a half

:54:56.:55:04.

minutes. And England have withstood the Argentine last five minutes of

:55:05.:55:10.

their attacks. Just losing a bit of discipline in their set piece play.

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England taking the sting out of the game, can control it. Hartley,

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stolen by the Pumas. Bertranou. Socks up them all. Lavanini.

:55:32.:55:50.

Bertranou, back up to Herrera. Play on. This is Moroni. Hernandez.

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Chance now, Lozowski watches it. Argentina retake possession. Penalty

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to Argentina. Lozowski showing his football skills. I'm lucky not to

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get the ball back. Juan Martin Hernandez into the England 22.

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Argentina's last chance because we are into the last minute.

:56:29.:56:47.

Lavanini with the catch. Turnover by England. Jonny May has a little

:56:48.:57:04.

luck. We will have to take the scrummage. More great work in the

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line-out stopping the maul. Fantastic work from the England

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forwards. Argentina's coach knows it is all over. His team are going to

:57:22.:57:28.

lose the two match series 2-0. The hooter goes. We will have the scrum.

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Eddie Jones, job done. It hasn't had the tingling excitement, the

:57:40.:57:44.

last-minute action of last week, it has been another good game. John

:57:45.:57:57.

Lacey resets the scrummage. Everybody has the energy to have a

:57:58.:58:04.

say step one of the areas Eddie Jones will be delighted as the

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leadership. The development of his leaders. Seeing Danny Care, George

:58:10.:58:13.

Ford, the way they have managed the game has been exceptional.

:58:14.:58:24.

Nathan Hughes the big number eight has the last action of the game. He

:58:25.:58:36.

bends over exhausted. His right knee. No reason to feel dejected

:58:37.:58:43.

because England have won the second test, having won the first, 2-0 in

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their series in Argentina. It has been a tough test, a sparkling

:58:49.:58:53.

series and England come away with that victorious. Final score here

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Argentina 25-35 England. STUDIO: Thank you. England have lost

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just one of their last 20 games. The 30-9 defeat to Ireland in the Six

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Nations. The Eddie Jones era, that is their only defeat in ten away

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Test matches and they have scored 20 tries in their last five Test

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matches. Have you enjoyed this series, Jeremy? Brilliant from an

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England perspective with all the players and experience missing, only

:59:26.:59:29.

five experienced guys playing these two tests and they come up with

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Eddie and his coaching staff, but these inexperienced youngsters in

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and they have got deserved results. It is not luck or chance of poor

:59:40.:59:45.

Argentina play, they have gone out and won the game will stop in terms

:59:46.:59:50.

of strength in depth, England or in a great place. And these young

:59:51.:59:57.

players have forged a real bond. Yes and they have had to do it really

:59:58.:00:01.

quick. It doesn't get much harder than going out to Argentina in that

:00:02.:00:05.

atmosphere but to deliver the style of rugby, at times a bit sloppy, a

:00:06.:00:08.

little bit underwhelming today I must be honest, ... 130 two across

:00:09.:00:20.

the two tests. For all those guys getting their first caps on tour in

:00:21.:00:24.

Argentina, I hope they go out and have a drink tonight. The desert.

:00:25.:00:27.

Brian, are you happy or frustrated? But ever the criticisms, given the

:00:28.:00:34.

graphic of the squad, to go and win away in Argentina 2-0 is tremendous.

:00:35.:00:39.

Now, we want them to get everything right and it is right to do that

:00:40.:00:43.

because we want to be the best in the world but that's not forget what

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they have done with the squad they have had. When Pablo Matera scores

:00:47.:00:54.

that try you think here we go again. We didn't know what to expect. It

:00:55.:00:59.

was you have a go, we have a go. Here you expect a bit more from a

:01:00.:01:05.

playmaker of Francis's ability. His execution is normally good. He is

:01:06.:01:11.

getting used to the side and the execution here was poor. A simple

:01:12.:01:15.

nudge through the gap or you take the ball into contact and go through

:01:16.:01:20.

another phase and that the exit strategy in. But they didn't.

:01:21.:01:26.

You were saying at the time, keep it simple, Ugo. Yes, get rid of the

:01:27.:01:38.

ball, a speculative kick on the 50 metre line brought the pressure back

:01:39.:01:42.

on to England and fair play to Matera, a good finish. The

:01:43.:01:46.

experienced players like Danny Care really stepped up. They did, and

:01:47.:01:51.

time and again you see what they achieved, Brown taking the ball in

:01:52.:01:55.

the first half. In the second half the drop goal from Ford was

:01:56.:01:59.

symptomatic of the way he has played under control he has exercised

:02:00.:02:03.

throughout two tests. Do you think is well one the regions Argentina

:02:04.:02:08.

play this fast loose games is they are together for the Jaguares. In

:02:09.:02:15.

Super Rugby there are no consequences because you do not get

:02:16.:02:20.

relegated. On the one hand you are encouraged to play this way and you

:02:21.:02:23.

can expand the way you play, which they have done, but they are prone

:02:24.:02:28.

to do this in areas where it costs them in Test matches, because in

:02:29.:02:32.

Super Rugby nothing happens. You don't go down. Everyone says we will

:02:33.:02:39.

move on to next week. With Test match rugby you can't board that.

:02:40.:02:43.

Which is what we saw with the Danny Care try. We saw a spell of play

:02:44.:02:49.

which was neither here, there, nor anywhere. Lou mac a big frustration

:02:50.:02:53.

was Argentina got the ball back, could they do something with it? No,

:02:54.:02:59.

just give it right back to England. Fair play, for Dan Brown, then to

:03:00.:03:05.

Care, three leaders in that backline that come alive. This England team

:03:06.:03:10.

thrive on the attacking ball and their ability to transition from

:03:11.:03:14.

defence into attack so swiftly and well. We speak a lot about how

:03:15.:03:18.

dangerous New Zealand are on the counterattack. They have gone from

:03:19.:03:21.

defending their try line into scoring a try within about 15

:03:22.:03:28.

seconds. Really smart. Beautiful almost sensory play by Ford here.

:03:29.:03:34.

His peripheral vision and body sends him coming from depth, slipped the

:03:35.:03:39.

ball out, then Care is there, nice to see Quins combination working,

:03:40.:03:43.

where Brown and he had struggled in the first half getting the

:03:44.:03:47.

combinations right, this one worked well, and a well worked try to let's

:03:48.:03:54.

for examples say whether Lions have been struggling and players haven't

:03:55.:03:58.

been there. Instinctively knowing where your mate is? Yes. They are

:03:59.:04:03.

playing for a trophy as well, and we saw Dylan Hartley lift the trophy

:04:04.:04:08.

last week. I am informed it is called the icy BC cup, so there we

:04:09.:04:11.

are, and that is what England have been playing for and they are about

:04:12.:04:24.

to get the trophy. -- ICBC cup. One moment in the second half where he

:04:25.:04:30.

helped on a turnover but apart from that game, Underhill was

:04:31.:04:35.

underwhelming. He was only 20 so he has a lot to learn. For these young

:04:36.:04:41.

lads as well, Ugo, a lot of them are embarking on England test careers

:04:42.:04:45.

and you can see the smiles on their faces, this is silverware for them,

:04:46.:04:50.

a huge moment. For me is the next player who wasn't very good anyway

:04:51.:04:55.

let's face it! Come on, you can't go for the sympathy vote that early!

:04:56.:05:09.

LAUGHTER. You popped my tyres! These young guys who have been watching

:05:10.:05:13.

England the last 20 games, for the last couple of weeks they have the

:05:14.:05:16.

experience, they have been desperate to get involved and to embed

:05:17.:05:21.

themselves with Eddie Jones and come away and taste success is brilliant.

:05:22.:05:25.

They thoroughly deserved it. Some of these guys May not get another

:05:26.:05:31.

opportunity for a while. Playing Argentina is a hard task. Especially

:05:32.:05:36.

after a long season. Very physical, passionate crowds, can be quite

:05:37.:05:39.

intimidating, especially if you are young and inexperienced,

:05:40.:05:53.

and these players have gone in there and put the work in and got the

:05:54.:05:56.

reward, so credit to them. These two are just jealous because they don't

:05:57.:05:59.

look as impeccable and see you! Top button done up as well, very much on

:06:00.:06:02.

point! Let's get back to the rugby, is Yarde to blame for this try? We

:06:03.:06:08.

have 25 minutes so guess, in my book he is, he should have smother the

:06:09.:06:13.

ball in the tackle. He has partly inside him who is shattered. He will

:06:14.:06:17.

never get there and take a three quarters out. He does neither one

:06:18.:06:21.

thing nor the other. If he makes a decision he can blame someone or he

:06:22.:06:25.

could have smother the ball. He stays in no man's land. This is

:06:26.:06:28.

where we disagree because they are numbered up here, one of the biggest

:06:29.:06:32.

aspects of defence 's trust and the trust in the guy inside him to do

:06:33.:06:36.

his job which is to tackle, he steps in the ball goes across, you would

:06:37.:06:42.

be rinsing him. He smothers the ball! Hartley does what he can. You

:06:43.:06:48.

know he is not going to get there. You want your slowest offenders to

:06:49.:07:00.

the ruck. You want Ford to be the man... Ford has just made a tackle,

:07:01.:07:03.

you won't get across. They just got in the wrong way. You are right, but

:07:04.:07:06.

also when you have a game like this the ball is in play for a huge

:07:07.:07:09.

amount of time with many turnovers, there will be fatigue people's legs

:07:10.:07:14.

so mistakes happen. They have also created wonderful moments as well.

:07:15.:07:19.

Let's not forget England have won a Test match here! We will never get

:07:20.:07:23.

away from the fact that this is a wonderful result, 2-0, before they

:07:24.:07:27.

went I would thought if they win one that is a great achievement, to win

:07:28.:07:31.

two in the manner they have this right up there. Talking about young

:07:32.:07:35.

players who remember this tour, Will Collier stepped off the bench to

:07:36.:07:39.

score and has been earmarked by Eddie Jones for a long, glorious

:07:40.:07:41.

future. I have two backs here who will not

:07:42.:07:54.

appreciate what Collier can do first and. I was worried about your heart,

:07:55.:07:57.

you were getting very excited! The technical skill required to make

:07:58.:08:02.

this go forward properly against a big Argentinian pack is huge. It is

:08:03.:08:06.

tremendously energy draining but technically very proficient, then

:08:07.:08:10.

later on they had three four scrums where they were rock-solid against

:08:11.:08:15.

an Argentinian pack which is big and strong and used to scrummage and use

:08:16.:08:19.

it very well and didn't give an inch. Collier is responsible for

:08:20.:08:23.

that because as tight head you take most of the weight and play a third

:08:24.:08:27.

more than at loosehead, and that is where it is anchored. He gets his

:08:28.:08:31.

body height right and body angle right and for a young man I think

:08:32.:08:37.

that is tremendous progress. I have been part of Collier's development

:08:38.:08:42.

and he is one of the poshest players in world rugby, and that was

:08:43.:08:47.

spot-on, very well drilled. How will you part of his development? His

:08:48.:08:55.

binding?! His body angle? LAUGHTER. Compared to last week a quiet night

:08:56.:09:00.

for George Ford. He was quiet because he didn't score the try

:09:01.:09:04.

because he was integral in most of what England did an attack. His

:09:05.:09:07.

skill set allows him to do pretty much everything but what we see from

:09:08.:09:13.

him here is game management. He knows, this penalty goes over, takes

:09:14.:09:18.

them away from the try and conversion, puts massive pressure.

:09:19.:09:22.

Game management, as you say. Puts massive pressure on the Pumas to get

:09:23.:09:29.

back in this game. I was looking at the screen thinking Duda

:09:30.:09:33.

celebrating! Brilliant play by George, which has signed up what he

:09:34.:09:40.

has done in the Test matches. He has bossed for large portions of those

:09:41.:09:45.

two matches, completely, the game, wonderful to see. He was fantastic

:09:46.:09:50.

last week but that drop goal on 74 minutes, conversely, when Argentina

:09:51.:09:53.

probably shouldn't have taken it, many guys losing their heads,

:09:54.:09:58.

Lavanini, his assault on Nathan Hughes, I hope that is looked at

:09:59.:10:03.

because it is a disgrace. The game was a beautiful game but that was a

:10:04.:10:08.

horror moment for me. I don't know if it will be looked at because

:10:09.:10:10.

Hughes ended up playing the rest of the game but that is a planting leg

:10:11.:10:15.

and he attacked his right knee. That could have been brutal, not the way

:10:16.:10:19.

you want when the talk. That could end a career if you get it wrong.

:10:20.:10:30.

Not nice at all is quite how do we think the referee's decisions when

:10:31.:10:33.

this evening? A couple of high tackles. The officiating was fine.

:10:34.:10:35.

Rare is officiating responsible for the team's fortunes. Teams make

:10:36.:10:39.

mistakes more than referees. The refereeing, touch judging MTM was

:10:40.:10:44.

fine for me. Were you happy? I was but I didn't think Brian was because

:10:45.:10:49.

he mentioned the yellow. I thought that one was wrong. You've changed

:10:50.:10:56.

your mind? That was a definite yellow card but we all make

:10:57.:11:01.

mistakes, referees do. Which players... We were down 61 players

:11:02.:11:05.

now putting their hands up for selection so when Jones names his

:11:06.:11:09.

squad for the autumn internationals, 61 players, that is incredible

:11:10.:11:14.

strength in depth. A great bank of players to have. I thought Ewels in

:11:15.:11:18.

the second row did well, Wilson played well last week. Where there

:11:19.:11:26.

is advantages for players is an inside centre and six and seven.

:11:27.:11:30.

Those other positions England don't have massive strength. Neither

:11:31.:11:35.

position has been... No one has put their hand up and said we can take

:11:36.:11:39.

the place of Robshaw and Haskel and Farrell. Taiyo is playing so well he

:11:40.:11:46.

is probably locked into a couple of seasons but remember these kids are

:11:47.:11:50.

young and inexperienced. Which players will put their hands up to

:11:51.:11:55.

challenge the old guard? You mention Collier, it is funny for me to be

:11:56.:11:59.

talking about a tight head but he was outstanding. Look throughout the

:12:00.:12:02.

squad and they will all be happy. Let's hear from the England coach

:12:03.:12:08.

with the host broadcasters. O young squad but serious and you win it.

:12:09.:12:15.

Why? I think in each game we found a way to score points. Today wasn't a

:12:16.:12:21.

great performance for us but we were able to maximise any areas Argentina

:12:22.:12:27.

Meydan turn them into points. To day, you feel the team is more

:12:28.:12:32.

comfortable than last week? Again a couple of new guys this week making

:12:33.:12:38.

their test debut and they will be better for that, playing against

:12:39.:12:41.

experienced players. Some players struggled but they would be OK in

:12:42.:12:50.

future. Two great matches. Yes, George played very well. You are

:12:51.:12:54.

happy and still having more victories. Yes, it is always good to

:12:55.:12:59.

win against a tough opponent like Argentina. It has been a great Test

:13:00.:13:04.

series, some really good rugby, and I think Argentina should be

:13:05.:13:08.

congratulated on the sort of rugby they play. Thanks, Eddie. We

:13:09.:13:12.

thoroughly enjoyed it. Let's turn our attention to the British and

:13:13.:13:16.

Irish Lions who played the All Blacks earlier this morning. It was

:13:17.:13:26.

at risk when, a powerful when we should say, in wet conditions, Leigh

:13:27.:13:29.

Halfpenny landing 20 points in all, 15-10 lead at half-time. There was a

:13:30.:13:33.

mix-up between Halfpenny and George North but the Lions dominated

:13:34.:13:36.

second-half earning a penalty try when they took the Maoris apart.

:13:37.:13:43.

Itoje was outstanding once again, crossed four minutes later. Katie

:13:44.:13:46.

Gornall was there. It had been a mixed tour for the

:13:47.:13:51.

Lions. Before they arrived here. So to beat a side with the reputation

:13:52.:13:55.

and attacking quality of the Maoris all backs sends a huge statement.

:13:56.:14:00.

Not a perfect game, the first half in particular peppered with errors,

:14:01.:14:05.

but they're forward pack was excellent and the driving force

:14:06.:14:09.

behind dominating and defeating the Maoris All Blacks. Peter O'Mahony

:14:10.:14:14.

stood out alongside Sean O'Brien which means Captain Sam Warburton is

:14:15.:14:19.

not guaranteed a starting place in the first test. There was also

:14:20.:14:26.

flawless kicking performance from Leigh Halfpenny here, meaning he

:14:27.:14:28.

looks almost certainly to take the number 15 jersey against the All

:14:29.:14:31.

Blacks. Before that Alliance travel to Hamilton where they take on the

:14:32.:14:36.

Chiefs. Gatland has faced criticism in the build-up to this match in

:14:37.:14:39.

terms of the players he has brought in to boost his squad in Hamilton.

:14:40.:14:45.

He has chosen to call in players from Wales and Scotland who have

:14:46.:14:50.

been touring in Australasia, and overlooked England players in

:14:51.:14:53.

Argentina. The England head coach Eddie Jones has criticised that

:14:54.:14:57.

decision saying Gatland has picked players not on merit but on

:14:58.:15:03.

geography. You are only a few of those players are probably unlucky

:15:04.:15:10.

-- you are only a Lion when you get on the field. A few players are

:15:11.:15:14.

probably unlucky. We have picked up a couple of injuries. In terms of

:15:15.:15:19.

developing the shirt I can see some people's point but we are here to

:15:20.:15:24.

win a Test series and it is about guys covering, not travelling

:15:25.:15:29.

halfway round the world. We found it difficult in the first ten days when

:15:30.:15:35.

we were here in terms of jet lag and time differences and stuff, and the

:15:36.:15:40.

players coming from Auckland last night and from Australia will be

:15:41.:15:44.

able to fit quickly into that time zone. So Gatland not overly worried

:15:45.:15:49.

about that criticism. He knows it is all about the Test series. The Lions

:15:50.:15:53.

have given themselves the perfect platform here. Whether that will be

:15:54.:15:58.

enough to overpower the All Blacks in a week's time is another question

:15:59.:16:01.

entirely. Katie Gornall. Stand-by because

:16:02.:16:05.

these three have been raring to go on Gatlin's call up so we will do

:16:06.:16:20.

that in a moment but first how impressed were you with the

:16:21.:16:24.

performance and the win? I was impressed with the result. They

:16:25.:16:26.

needed a massive rebound to keep momentum or regain it. That is so

:16:27.:16:28.

important. Had they lost confidence it would have been hard work for

:16:29.:16:31.

management to get the squad firing again. It was good on those points.

:16:32.:16:34.

Defence and set pieces great. They are making line breaks, just not

:16:35.:16:36.

showing composure when they make them so people have been moaning

:16:37.:16:39.

about the support not being there which is right but they are getting

:16:40.:16:43.

used to playing one another. What I am more worried about is once you

:16:44.:16:46.

get to the breakdown after the break, where is your shape and

:16:47.:16:50.

attack to walk the ball over the line and score? That's where I think

:16:51.:17:00.

they have to work most on this week. Big performances to today, though.

:17:01.:17:02.

Massive performances. Kate mention Peter O my honey, Sean O'Brien

:17:03.:17:08.

taking a step forward -- Peter O'Mahony. That puts the captain

:17:09.:17:11.

seated to debate because the balance in the back row was wonderful. A

:17:12.:17:15.

huge game for Sexton with Farrell picking up a knock, he had to step

:17:16.:17:20.

up but for me the 9-12 axis worked well, Conor Murray is world-class,

:17:21.:17:24.

Ben Te'o probably raised eyebrows coming onto the talk but he has been

:17:25.:17:31.

outstanding. A backline which at times has lack of that -- lacked

:17:32.:17:36.

some X factor, he has provided that in probably one of the most

:17:37.:17:42.

congested areas of the field. So very tidy, impressive performance.

:17:43.:17:46.

Going back to the pack, to Lupe Pala towel an excellent game, George

:17:47.:17:54.

Kruis and Maro Itoje. I firmly believe they can get a slight edge

:17:55.:17:59.

in the set piece against the All Blacks albeit but I don't think it

:18:00.:18:04.

will be one where they put away, but if they can get that amount of

:18:05.:18:07.

pressure and put them on the back foot, that has huge consequences for

:18:08.:18:12.

the wait any side plays. If they are not on the front foot it is harder

:18:13.:18:16.

to get a quick ball, and the game is more difficult and they have to make

:18:17.:18:20.

different decisions. They need to replicate that. They can do it. The

:18:21.:18:26.

which is most disappointing, which prior you didn't think would be a

:18:27.:18:30.

problem has been the back three where you are wondering who is in

:18:31.:18:35.

form and who isn't. This is my question, we have seen the blueprint

:18:36.:18:38.

as to how the Lions will go into the Test series, good kicking game in

:18:39.:18:42.

defence, massive pressure in terms of line speed and set piece. My only

:18:43.:18:47.

question is, if they are chasing the game, we haven't seen that Plan B,

:18:48.:18:50.

they haven't scored enough tries for New Zealand to be worried about

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their attack. We know they have it in the scrum, we saw evidence of

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that. The line-out maul has been brilliant, but can they create and

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finishing up to challenge New Zealand if they find themselves

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behind which lots of teams do. What they struggle with is the finish.

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There will four chances against Crusaders open, three today, maybe

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four. They are creating but not finishing. We cannot expect an all

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singing all dancing performance because the conditions have been

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slippery underfoot, the ball is greasy, the tactics so far have been

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good. The All Blacks love organised chaos, and if your defence is

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pushing and pressurising the All Blacks side will cut loose because

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their game will be two levels up from anything the Lions have faced

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so far. I feel the nation is waiting with baited breath to hear your view

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on Gatlin's call ups. Let's see who he has called up in the last 24

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hours or so. There they are. Confirmation that Ross Moriarty is

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out. Eddie Jones last night in that interview I referred to earlier said

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it should be there on merit and not geographical proximity. What do you

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say? In mine and Brian's day... He has devalued the jersey, no doubt.

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You want the sport and you are glad that they're out there but you have

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to be on merit otherwise you cannot look someone in the eye and say,

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well done. In the modern day, here and now, Gatland has made this

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choice. If you listen to all he has talked about, something they

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discussed before the tour, he is taking this risk. He is head coach

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and make those choices with some influence from his assistants, but

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ultimately this is what he is judged on. If they lose because the likes

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of Launchbury or Danny Care or George Ford are not there, Paddy

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Jackson, toner, Healy, we can argue about it and go to town on him. What

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he is saying is, he wants some fodder there, why should anyone on a

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Lions tour be fodder? He should be competing for a test spot. Yes, I'm

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disappointed, I really am. It should -- shouldn't be based on geography.

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At the nucleus of the Lions is the best of the best from four nations

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going against the best countries in the world, that is what it has

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always been about. I have really enjoyed this series so far and love

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that the guys are taking time out to understand the history and values of

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what it is to be a New Zealander and an All Black, but for me to be a

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Lion is about being the best of the best, and it is not just paying

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respect to everyone else but devaluing ourselves, forgetting what

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it is for us. That frustrates me. For the players that are selected,

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if there is anyone having a pop at them this is misguided. If anyone is

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called up they will be on the plane, so it is not them. I am just pretty

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frustrated. Get it in context, this is the highest accolade you can have

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as a British player. When that letter drops on your Mac and you

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open it with the embossed Lions thing, it is the proudest moment of

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your life and it means something to say you have been a Lion. Conversely

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if you cannot say that, and there are very good players who haven't

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been able to, and now like Launchbury. He is young enough but

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who knows where he would be in four years? When you see someone who you

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know is not as good as you, and arguably, you will be unhappy and

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other people will be unhappy. I don't blame the players but in terms

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of Gatlin, he knew this would happen earlier on, he would have been

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better taking them straightaway. With the England thing, it is an

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arguable that if you wanted Launchbury, Eddie Jones wouldn't

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have said with my blessing, go after the first test. He said last night

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he would have given his blessing. So I don't understand why this has been

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done because the players could have been released to get over jet lag

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and they are better players. This has been part of Gatlin's plan. They

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should have been more transparency about it to allow those guys to go

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from Argentina, whoever he might have selected last Sunday, they

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could have had a week in New Zealand. The Lions has never been

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about convenience and making things easy, it is about challenging

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yourself against the best, and this is part of the challenge, a

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challenge you should take, and some of the guys who know they are better

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than those called up, it is a bitter pill. Warren knows a lot about the

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Lions tradition and history. This is his third tour, I believe, so he

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understands that. It couldn't have been an easy decision to plan this

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knowing the flak he would receive. He made a tough decision with

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O'Driscoll, which some people at the time didn't agree with. He got it

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right. Right now, 99% of anybody involved with the Lions will say

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what he is doing right now is devaluing it, and players on the

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tour now we'll look at other players and think, you don't deserve to be

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here. There is a chance it could split the camp. I get the feeling

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there was political point scoring. Do you think it will cause a rift? I

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denting so. The bigger picture is you are there to win the series.

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That's what Gatland said but he said he wants to get his players in the

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best physical prowess to be able to deliver that. Absolutely. I think,

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for the Lions it has always been greater than just winning, it is

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about taking the Lions badge, honouring it, keeping the value of

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it high, passing the jersey to the next guy in a better position than

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where you left it. With some of the selections I don't think that has

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been upheld. He is entitled as head coach to do what he wants,

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absolutely, I have no problem with that. But it is illogical. There are

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ways he could have done this to get better players are under similar

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circumstances, so his squad would be enhanced. All the players could have

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been released earlier so they could get over the jet lag and this point

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wouldn't have been... We are here and could do -based that -- debate

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this forever but we have selected a team that might win the first test.

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Earlier today we got these three together and believe it or not they

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agreed, and it didn't take long, I was surprised, you agreed... I

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wasn't there! LAUGHTER Here is their Lions team. It was a combination of

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what we thought might be there. When a polar unarguable. Jamie George for

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me offers more technically and bearing in mind he has is there as

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well. -- he has Toni Kroos there as -- he has George Kruis there. I

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think George Kruis is the brains in there, completely. I think Alun Wyn

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Jones will be there because of his experience. Itoje on the bench, more

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of an impact player, but that is a front five will be competitive. That

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back row have played together a couple of times and it operated

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really well again today. Conor Murray in the back, we hope he is

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fitter than the centres. I think Te'o showed his form and Davies can

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make the breaks. We thought Williams will find his form, Halfpenny nailed

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it, not missing a kick. Watson probably the best of the winners so

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far. No one has shown a huge amount of form but we hope it comes well

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last week -- next week. We are all behind them despite the debate, the

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four nations hope they can do something serious come Saturday.

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Crucially, no Sam Warburton. I think he probably will get the squad.

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Thank you. Lots of sport over the next couple of days or so.

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Mark Chapman presenting the Rugby league. A huge game in the final of

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the ICC champions Trophy, Pakistan taking on India. Then Queens gets

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under way with Sue Barker. Thank you very much indeed for Jeremy Guscott,

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Ugo Monye and Brian Moore, great to see you back fighting fit. Good luck

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to the Lions, well done England. From all of us here, goodbye for

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now. to live and enjoy

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each day as it comes

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