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Unbeaten in Europe over the past fortnight, they have flown the flag | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
emphatically for Wales. None more so than at the free-scoring | :00:24. | :00:33. | |
Scarlets. So with Northampton dealt with, it is time for the Dragons de | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
journey west it into a heart and soul rugby country. They say West | :00:37. | :00:42. | |
is best in these parts. The man of quite may disagree. But Stephen | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
Jones, dropped by Wales this week, is one man determined to show he | :00:46. | :00:53. | |
has what it takes. Both sides will approach tonight | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
brimming with confidence, but the stats don't make great Reading for | :00:56. | :01:03. | |
the Dragons. They have lost their last six matches in the lead | :01:03. | :01:13. | |
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tonight will propel them into the This man will not be playing for | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
the Barbarians, Stephen Jones has declined the invitation in order to | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
play for his region, making his 300th appearance tonight. Joining | :01:28. | :01:34. | |
me his former Wales captain Kingsley Jones, and Robert Jones. | :01:34. | :01:39. | |
We will talk in a moment, the two coaches have been speaking of the | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
importance of carrying on the momentum of from Europe. | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
Six wins out of seven for the Scarlets, including two excellent | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
victories in Europe, how pleasing has the form been? It has been very | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
good, but it has been built on taking the next game as it comes. | :01:55. | :02:01. | |
We have been able to perform in the fixtures we have had. It has been | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
very pleasing for me as a coach, we want to put down a marker, playing | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
against big European teams. We beat Perpignan on with a very good | :02:10. | :02:17. | |
performance. The international calls have hit you again, you are | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
short of about seven players, how frustrating is that? We have been | :02:22. | :02:25. | |
able to give opportunities to lot of the group that will play today, | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
they have shown up very well, so we're confident in the fact that | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
these boys can step up and prove they are true Scarlets. It is | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
frustrating, because there were replayed last week was pleasing, it | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
would be good to keep that form going, but we are really good place, | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
it is good at our players are recognised. Enjoy the game. A thank | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
you. An interesting sub-plot, the head | :02:53. | :03:03. | |
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slightly aggrieved at missing out on the Wales squad for the | :03:05. | :03:15. | |
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I spoke to Stephen Jones yesterday, he is disappointed, but he will | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
want to prove a point. He is a great player, bags of experience, | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
and if he plays well, Warren Gatland cannot overlook him. A bit | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
different for Jason Tovey, he thought he had taken one step ahead, | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
but it is based on current form, Dan Biggar has kicked very well, | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
and despite the qualities that Jason Tovey possesses in terms of | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
his overall game, Dan Biggar is probably the better choice at the | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
moment. You have been impressed by someone who has made a shift from | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
the second row into the back row, Aaron Shingler? He has impressed me | :03:51. | :04:00. | |
for a number of years. A big, athletic player, very quick, scored | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
a fantastic try in the Commonwealth Games. I think the back row is a | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
position that we will see the best of him. He has been playing lock. | :04:10. | :04:15. | |
Playing back row because there are a few injuries at Scarlets, a lot | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
of competition here. I am keen to see him performed tonight because I | :04:20. | :04:27. | |
think he is an massive prospect. Slotting into a back row that also | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
includes Ben Morgan. He always seems to play well in front of us. | :04:30. | :04:36. | |
These coaches are without their top players, it does hold momentum, | :04:36. | :04:43. | |
doesn't it? De seat either side benefiting most from that. | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
scallops, home advantage probably. -- Scarlets. But ultimately, a lot | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
of these players are playing a lot of rugby for the Scarlets and the | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
Dragons, I think home advantage will play its part. The teams are | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
on their way out. Welsh language commentary is on the red button. | :05:05. | :05:15. | |
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Get involved by at text and Twitter. gloves whether! But conditions, | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
pretty good on the field, it must be said. Ashley Smith, playing his | :05:27. | :05:35. | |
100th game for the Dragons, leads them out. Five for witnessing on | :05:35. | :05:44. | |
Wales duty. But plenty of experience. Plenty of talent behind, | :05:44. | :05:54. | |
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Jason Tovey, knocking on the door. the Scarlets will know that as much | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
as anybody, he spent a few seasons down here, Gavin Thomas, before | :06:04. | :06:12. | |
moving to the Dragons. They will be looking out for him. 100 games for | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
Ashley Smith. Treble that and that is the contribution of Stephen | :06:17. | :06:23. | |
Jones in the Scarlets showed. -- show it. Maybe he will be preparing | :06:23. | :06:33. | |
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to wear the red of Wales. As it is, he is more than happy to come back | :06:35. | :06:45. | |
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and help out the region, and come back to a standing ovation. | :06:46. | :06:55. | |
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Carmarthen boy, Scarlets through with Matthew Rees in the Welsh set- | :06:58. | :07:08. | |
up. -- Ken Owens. And behind Stephen Jones, to lead the side, | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
Sean Lamont, Gareth Maule, and Adam Warren, who has been creating an | :07:14. | :07:20. | |
impression in midfield. A mix and match on the bench, a bit of | :07:20. | :07:30. | |
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experience and some slightly newer call-ups, I think it is going to be | :07:33. | :07:41. | |
a very exciting game. A lot of nucleus of the side is there. | :07:41. | :07:51. | |
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Fingers crossed, a very, very good Europe, it is back to the bread and | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
butter of the league. Both teams, looking to move up that table after | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
fairly shaky starts to the season for both. Scarlets have definitely | :08:04. | :08:14. | |
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solidified in recent weeks, seven unexpected position. -- to use | :08:28. | :08:38. | |
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of the way, and Gavin Thomas, right in the thick of things in the | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
opening stages, slowing things down for a team who are under a bit of | :09:00. | :09:10. | |
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last that Gavin Thomas might be - has come about. Stephen Jones has | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
crossed 700 points in league rugby. And he adds another three, and | :09:47. | :09:55. | |
against the Scarlets on the score board early on. -- get the Scarlets | :09:55. | :10:05. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :10:05. | :10:56. | |
and not be exposed in the field, as to stop a few years ago now, in the | :10:57. | :11:06. | |
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state. -- the States. A good line- Being forced back, knocked over the | :11:36. | :11:46. | |
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lucky, at the Dragons, because he was isolated, but strangely | :12:01. | :12:08. | |
enough,... He is being penalised, the number seven. That was a close | :12:08. | :12:15. | |
call, wasn't it? I think Ken Owens and thought he could steal that | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
ball, unfortunately, the referee said he came from an offside | :12:18. | :12:28. | |
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position. Very difficult to see Jason Tovey has been in pretty good | :13:01. | :13:11. | |
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form this season. A bit unlucky, came off Adam Warren. Gavin Thomas, | :13:40. | :13:47. | |
asking for the off side. Knock-on has been given. I think the ball | :13:47. | :13:53. | |
played for man. Good technique, poor execution. Did he play for it? | :13:53. | :14:00. | |
I think that was a penalty, I think. I think he did play for it, and | :14:00. | :14:10. | |
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Gavin Thomas was right to ask for that. He said straight away, he was | :14:45. | :14:52. | |
going in. He has started all eight league matches for the Scarlets | :14:52. | :15:02. | |
this season. He is a former Dragon. That is a free ball for Alan Jones | :15:02. | :15:12. | |
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in the front. The Scarlets switched committing match. Life is being | :15:29. | :15:37. | |
made difficult for the Dragons. Now they have lost it. They have been | :15:37. | :15:44. | |
turned over by the Scarlets but it has been well won backed by the | :15:44. | :15:51. | |
Dragons. The defence is very well so far with the Scarlets. That is | :15:51. | :16:01. | |
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better. Just cleared out. A bit it was a try saving tackle. Were | :16:09. | :16:19. | |
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It is a great finish if he does get in. I would imagine it is a touch. | :16:35. | :16:45. | |
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Let's have a look. And he is short. Good effort both. A decision. The | :16:49. | :16:59. | |
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feet are in touch and the defending effective. That was good play. | :17:07. | :17:17. | |
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Great hands. A good tackle at the of bother me his own try-line. Who | :17:24. | :17:34. | |
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has the gaps? -- guts? That was good patient played by the Scarlets | :17:46. | :17:55. | |
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and good control. -- play. There by Gavin Thomas. Wayne Evans | :18:07. | :18:17. | |
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thought he could spot just the penalty. Knocked forward ball- | :18:32. | :18:40. | |
carrying. -- not. That is the guy who takes the drift and stops it. | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
If you run it on, it stops the drift a little bit and they have | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
extra numbers. It was a great defence. It all came about with a | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
quick ball from the ruck. They could not organise a defensive line. | :18:58. | :19:08. | |
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They had numbers a wide. -- out caress least Scarlets has been very | :19:22. | :19:32. | |
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solid. -- Llanelli. The Newport Dragons have dominated. A plentiful | :19:35. | :19:45. | |
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stream of possession. Gavin Thomas ticket income at maybe the Scarlets | :19:55. | :20:05. | |
could have the scrum. -- took it in, maybe the Scarlets could have the | :20:05. | :20:15. | |
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scrum. It will be interesting to had to see Ben Morgan take on the | :20:29. | :20:39. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :20:39. | :21:51. | |
Dragons this evening. That was a forced to kick. That was good | :21:51. | :21:58. | |
defending by the Dragons will start -- the Scarlets were forced to kick. | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
One thing for this balance, they had numbers out wide but someone is | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
up on the inside ran. They need to hold the line and keep their depth. | :22:10. | :22:20. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :22:20. | :23:56. | |
No. That is what we need to look at. That was good link play. That was | :23:56. | :24:06. | |
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Brown. He could really had got in behind the defence. That was a | :24:38. | :24:45. | |
great pick up by Kenneth Owens. It was the tackle that dislodged it | :24:45. | :24:53. | |
but the advantage has been played anyway. He made a break. | :24:53. | :25:03. | |
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Unfortunately, he just lost the in the opening stages. Any half | :25:21. | :25:31. | |
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Bulls de he knows he has given the lead back to the Scarlets. -- in an | :25:51. | :25:58. | |
instant. Keep an eye on him. He rushed up. He is used to being on | :25:58. | :26:07. | |
the wing. There is the whole up the middle. That is the difference. You | :26:07. | :26:17. | |
need to watch. Scarlets wanted taking quickly but it was not quite | :26:17. | :26:27. | |
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back on his feet. I think he themselves Brom there's trouble. It | :27:23. | :27:33. | |
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was a poor pass. -- from this Equally good work by Jonathan | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
Edwards. It was short on the left- hand side. Stephen Jones had | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
spotted the overlap. They were coming down the right hand side. | :28:20. | :28:27. | |
From the turnover, to slow with the delivery. Jonathan Edwards got to | :28:27. | :28:37. | |
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penalties as far as scoring goes. The ball is a little bit slippery. | :28:54. | :29:04. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :29:04. | :29:47. | |
every mum back into their usual positions. The Dragons have | :29:47. | :29:53. | |
dominated possession and dominated the field position. They are behind | :29:53. | :29:57. | |
on the most important statistic on the scoreboard. They need to keep | :29:57. | :30:07. | |
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plugging away. The line-out for the Close on a couple of occasions for | :30:20. | :30:28. | |
the Dragons. That is a very clever kick. Does well. If Martin Thomas | :30:28. | :30:34. | |
get that, he scores. Simple as that. If he holds on to that... This is | :30:34. | :30:44. | |
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the forward pass. Definitely a forward. A great take. Daniel Evans | :30:45. | :30:55. | |
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went over like a 19. -- a 9 p no. hands behind him to deliver the | :31:05. | :31:15. | |
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with that final pass not been delivered with the necessary | :31:32. | :31:42. | |
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accuracy. Well controlled by Ben that Dragons have got to get | :31:50. | :31:58. | |
something. A couple of opportunities. It has gone 90 | :31:58. | :32:06. | |
degrees, I think that is a good call, actually. Scarlets are | :32:06. | :32:16. | |
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complaining that it didn't go 90 there are no players on the left- | :32:51. | :33:00. | |
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hand side. Povey is not looking to wide, that is an easy drop goal, | :33:11. | :33:17. | |
usually pops them over, he was going to go wide, but then Scarlets | :33:17. | :33:27. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :33:27. | :34:15. | |
got out, closed him down, he was in the ball back. They have got some | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
problems, everybody thinks they are scrum half at the moment for | :34:18. | :34:23. | |
Scarlets. They should find it Stephen Jones, he has played 300 | :34:23. | :34:33. | |
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that brilliant take by Dan Evans, perhaps they could have done better. | :34:38. | :34:42. | |
I do get frustrated sometimes, it is so difficult to break from a | :34:42. | :34:52. | |
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They are not going to get any a bit, the defence just drifts wide. If | :34:58. | :35:02. | |
you are going to be a dummy runner, you have to make sure you get a | :35:02. | :35:12. | |
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chance for the ball. You have to they'll steal. Dragons's coach, how | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
frustrating is that you never do best chances and not put them away? | :36:01. | :36:06. | |
It is frustrating, we are really close at the moment, we just need | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
some point on the board. There are a lot of good areas in our game, we | :36:12. | :36:19. | |
are doing well, we just need to return the ball. I hope we will | :36:19. | :36:29. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :36:29. | :37:54. | |
so far. And abetted kick, as well. Dragon's defence to get into | :37:54. | :38:04. | |
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opportunity. Very good play again, great pass. Jason Tovey does | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
exceptionally well. Doesn't get stirred up. Makes the tackle. There | :38:58. | :39:04. | |
is a two on one there. Lovely pass by Stephen Jones. Good | :39:04. | :39:14. | |
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remaining of the first half, this is as close as the Scarlets have | :39:19. | :39:29. | |
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This would be a bloke to the Dragons, if they could score after | :39:42. | :39:52. | |
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all the pressure they have had -- first time, I wonder what kind of | :40:13. | :40:19. | |
space Aled Brew would have had. Another chance for the Scarlets to | :40:19. | :40:29. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :40:30. | :41:20. | |
word. Off the ball, at scrums are... Clear? Am glad he didn't say "shake | :41:20. | :41:28. | |
hands". This is the offence. Stephen Jones does the break. Evans | :41:28. | :41:38. | |
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goes in. There we are. It is close, with 10 minutes of the first half | :41:45. | :41:54. | |
remaining, Scarlets extend the lead to 93. This is Kingsley-Jones. What | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
is wrong with the Scarlets line-up? I am not quite sure. At the start | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
of the game they were losing momentum in different areas, they | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
lost two line-outs on the bounce. The last 15 minutes, Scarlets have | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
come back into it. Phase two chances for the Dragons, that could | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
be the difference? You have got to give the benefit of the doubt to be | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
defender. A great tackle, Gareth Maule with the tackle. But you're | :42:24. | :42:28. | |
right, you have got to take every point, and I'm sure they will be | :42:29. | :42:32. | |
looking back the back tomorrow, and ruing their charges. A quick word | :42:32. | :42:42. | |
about the intensity? You get real feel for its, very intense, a lot | :42:42. | :42:52. | |
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of collisions come it is a real was going to make a mess and it. -- | :43:16. | :43:25. | |
make a mess of it. Time again for Martin Thomas. Ali's kick. -- a | :43:25. | :43:35. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :43:35. | :45:00. | |
board now, turn the pressure into half-time - the Dragons. They have | :45:00. | :45:06. | |
dominated the first half. 10 from 10 as for the line-outs. He | :45:06. | :45:16. | |
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readjust so. -- readjusts. It is all on or about the 10m line at the | :45:22. | :45:32. | |
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moment. There are not many people connecting to the ruck. That was a | :45:34. | :45:44. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :45:44. | :46:39. | |
good tackle. It came off the. Wayne slides out of the hands of Rhys | :46:39. | :46:49. | |
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Wales. Including reaction from the the Blues. 8 o'clock, later than | :47:25. | :47:31. | |
usual, Australia of course on Saturday afternoon. He wasted no | :47:31. | :47:37. | |
time whatsoever. He slotted it and brings the Dragons back to within a | :47:37. | :47:47. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 51 seconds | :47:47. | :48:31. | |
kick. They needed that. They have there was a kick. He is thought of | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
endeavour but needs to stay on the right side of the law. He has given | :48:36. | :48:46. | |
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away three penalties in succession. the Dragons as the first half draws | :49:17. | :49:25. | |
to a close. That was silly play. Ken Owens read a what he was going | :49:25. | :49:33. | |
to do. I do not know what the Scarlets supporters up on about | :49:33. | :49:40. | |
with the booing. Just watch! It is a block. The referee shouted at | :49:40. | :49:48. | |
Kenneth Owens not to block. It is quite unusual. They went for the | :49:48. | :49:55. | |
touch. With two and a half minutes left, I thought they would be going | :49:55. | :50:05. | |
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They have gone for the try. Is he held up? The crowd claim a try. The | :51:07. | :51:17. | |
referee goes to the ATM know. Rhys Thomas thinks he has got her. -- | :51:17. | :51:27. | |
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the ball to ground? -- ploughed. Ship they have gone for the | :51:37. | :51:47. | |
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penalty? -- should. From that angle, I cannot see Martyn Thomas being | :51:47. | :51:55. | |
under them. He is bundled off. is a try. There is no reason why | :51:55. | :52:05. | |
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beyond Rhys Thomas. That has to be drive. OK. The tables have turned | :52:38. | :52:45. | |
on the Dragons right at the end of the first half. They were the ones | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
pressing down field. One bit of indecision and 80 metres later it | :52:50. | :52:56. | |
is the former Dragon, Rhys Thomas, who gets the first try of the | :52:56. | :53:06. | |
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evening. What a costly decision?! Did he knocked it on? Let's have a | :53:10. | :53:20. | |
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look. Let's have a look at the next as far as the Dragons a concerned. | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
The whistle goes for half time. Instead of being just three points | :53:37. | :53:44. | |
behind, it is a different ball game. The try, right on the death, but | :53:44. | :53:50. | |
the completely different complexion on it. The Scarlets took their | :53:50. | :53:55. | |
opportunities and that is the difference. They'd take the penalty | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
and go in 9-9. They have dominated for most of the game was up the | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
clinical finishing and kicking of Stephen Jones and that is what has | :54:06. | :54:16. | |
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been the difference. They have to It was a big night for Stephen | :54:20. | :54:26. | |
Jones pulls up another Wales reject caught the eye, Alan Brew going | :54:26. | :54:34. | |
close early on. The first half came down to a kicking duel between the | :54:34. | :54:44. | |
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down to a kicking duel between the two 10s. In the final minutes, Rhys | :54:45. | :54:53. | |
Thomas scored a crucial try. 16-6 to the Scarlets. An interesting | :54:53. | :54:57. | |
first half. The Dragons were dominating but they did not take | :54:57. | :55:04. | |
their chances. They had a couple of chances. They did have the better | :55:04. | :55:09. | |
part of the game in terms of territory and quality of the ball. | :55:09. | :55:15. | |
There was probably more continuity in the game. The Scarlets, this is | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
about staying in the game. They did not look the side they were last | :55:19. | :55:25. | |
week or have been over the last couple of weeks. A lot of that was | :55:25. | :55:30. | |
Dan maybe to the pressure they were under, certainly at the breakdown. | :55:30. | :55:36. | |
That try would have knocked the stuffing out of the Dragons. | :55:36. | :55:43. | |
Dragons were dominant in many areas. I think the set piece from the | :55:43. | :55:50. | |
Dragons looks tidy. Early on the momentum was going with the Dragons. | :55:50. | :55:56. | |
The Scarlets could not gain any momentum. I note Rob spoke about | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
great work from the back row of the Dragons and often we have seen the | :56:02. | :56:07. | |
Scarlets trying to clean the ruck. That blow there really is a bitter | :56:07. | :56:15. | |
blow for the Dragons. It is an old cliche there is no worse the time | :56:15. | :56:22. | |
to concede than that. Some pretty sloppy play to give the ball away. | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
It means the Dragons will be willing those missed chances even | :56:25. | :56:32. | |
more now. We can have a look at a couple of them. They were quicker | :56:32. | :56:39. | |
on the ball than the Scarlets. Gas drifted across well and made the | :56:39. | :56:49. | |
vital tackle. -- Gareth Maule. Into the hands of Alan prove. Had Martyn | :56:49. | :56:57. | |
Thomas been aware of that, it would have been a certain try. When you | :56:57. | :57:05. | |
have time and space, you have drop goals. They will rue the chances | :57:05. | :57:12. | |
they have missed. The Scarlets will going at half-time. Gavin Thomas | :57:12. | :57:18. | |
has given away penalties but he has slowed so much possession down. It | :57:18. | :57:24. | |
has taken away a lot of the attacking options. They will look | :57:24. | :57:29. | |
for a more fluid game and that will give them the incentive to move | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
forward. We'd talked about how the Scarlets have not been functioning | :57:34. | :57:41. | |
very smoothly. What has been going wrong? Here is the half back coming | :57:41. | :57:47. | |
in. It has to be said, it is difficult. That wrote looks to be | :57:47. | :57:55. | |
short. A lot of movement and a lot of confusion. -- that throat. The | :57:55. | :58:02. | |
Dragons are competing well on the Scarlets ball. We're not seeing the | :58:02. | :58:08. | |
same competition on the Dragons balls. They are looking really good | :58:08. | :58:17. | |
in the set pieces. Numbers, not only is it to stop attacking, when | :58:17. | :58:21. | |
you come from the breakdown, the defensive line is not as organised | :58:21. | :58:31. | |
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as it should be because people are in a ruck. The Scarlets did get the | :58:35. | :58:40. | |
crucial try. It was eventually given to Rhys Thomas. I doubt there | :58:40. | :58:48. | |
were any issues with the fact he got the ball down. He came across | :58:48. | :58:54. | |
and made a bit of a hash of it. He looked very Sharpe to get that and | :58:54. | :59:01. | |
gathered the ball. It is power played by the prop forward. He was | :59:01. | :59:07. | |
pushing Wayne Evans at of the way. They controlled most of the game. | :59:07. | :59:14. | |
At half-time, having just scored, it is all about momentum. Work on | :59:14. | :59:22. | |
the areas you need to work on. There was disappointment and | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
frustration. Plenty more rugby to come to light and across the next | :59:27. | :59:32. | |
seven days on BBC Wales starting with a world-class line-up on | :59:32. | :59:42. | |
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Tomorrow, the pro 12 continues. On Sunday, you had just seen the trail | :00:24. | :00:34. | |
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We are back next week for Leinster verses the Blues at 8pm. And next | :00:37. | :00:47. | |
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Saturday, a revenge mission, as Tonight, Sport Wales at 9pm. | :00:52. | :00:58. | |
Speaking of the Blues, they kicked off at this week's round at the | :00:58. | :01:08. | |
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He doesn't need them. A first to sue it. He beats two men. All the | :01:34. | :01:44. | |
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winger. The Blues's third try, they Their best win for two-and-a-half | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
years, as it happens. Phil is with a Welsh veteran down on the | :02:35. | :02:45. | |
touchline. Here we are. Congratulations on your call up, | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
how did you find out? I had a text, I thought it was just the boys, | :02:50. | :02:57. | |
having a joke, really. But it was real. Is it right that there are | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
about 50 of them coming down to play, but you are not plane because | :03:01. | :03:08. | |
of the call up? Yes, I have been called up for Wales, so I cannot | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
play. It is not just a call-up for experience, you could end up | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
playing? A bit of a chance. I'm just trying to do well, and see how | :03:19. | :03:28. | |
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it goes. Where were you last season? I was playing fortnightly. | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
He reads the BECTU and, Matthew Rees, what is the atmosphere like? | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
A lot of youngsters, I feel quite old at the moment! The success in | :03:41. | :03:48. | |
the World Cup, great opportunity to play against Australia, and a good | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
chance for the boys to get a result. Hopefully that can do the job for | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
us. Everyone have felt for you when you had your injury before the | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
World Cup, how do you feel about it? Obviously disappointed, but at | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
the end of the day, that is rugby, these things happen. I bounce back | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
from that now, I'm glad to be back playing the game after the neck | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
operation, which was a great success. Hopefully I can get that | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
red jersey back on soon as well. Good luck to both of you. | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
We have spoken a lot about how some of the best players have been away | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
at the World Cup, how it has given an opportunity for youngsters, | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
Williams de defies that, now he has a chance of starting against | :04:35. | :04:42. | |
Australia. -- typify is that. Williams has come from nowhere, but | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
his form deserves an opportunity. We have struggled in the full back | :04:47. | :04:55. | |
position. But Liam Williams, I think, is very sharp, his greater | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
with the ball in hand, good defensively, and if he does play, | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
he will not have a worry. Anyone tonight you think might break into | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
the squad? At the start of the show, we talked, I think it is fantastic | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
in one way, because the only way you develop and improve his by | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
playing, and coaches often stick with experienced players. This is | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
paying dividends throughout Welsh rugby. Good stuff. They are about | :05:28. | :05:38. | |
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to kick off, let go back to our left for the pastures of London | :06:46. | :06:56. | |
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eight and 11 as to where the ball gave away the penalty. There was an | :07:26. | :07:36. | |
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well in the first half, very well. But I don't know if he lost that, | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
or what. It is a good ploy, number 8 is coming from the blind side. | :07:56. | :08:03. | |
That pass is waited correctly, it puts a bit of pressure. As it is, | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
the pressure is back on the Scarlets. It almost goes without | :08:10. | :08:20. | |
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saying, the Dragons take their own Scarlets's defence in the second | :08:45. | :08:55. | |
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half. I think they have to pick and drive the Dragon's's players. They | :08:55. | :09:05. | |
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ball. If you do, he is going to players between nine and 10, no | :10:32. | :10:41. | |
wonder the scrum half has no idea who took hit. A great run from Aled | :10:41. | :10:51. | |
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Brew. They have got to use him a when the Scarlets's fans thought | :11:29. | :11:39. | |
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think the Dragons now I'm not looking very threatening, so they | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
have to get in their heads - we need to win this. Whether by drop | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
goals, whether by penalties, that is the only way they can win this | :12:33. | :12:39. | |
game, that is how they have got to do it, realise that very quickly. | :12:39. | :12:49. | |
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Jason Tovey goes up to 75 points to Williams. I tell you what, he has | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
got a lot to do it if he is going to be mentioned in the same breath | :13:39. | :13:49. | |
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as Shane Williams. Four tries on his debut against the USA. Another | :13:49. | :13:56. | |
53 odd to go, maybe then he will be up with him. I have a couple of | :13:56. | :14:02. | |
guests. You have a rugby connection. I have come my played outside-half, | :14:02. | :14:12. | |
and die have an insight flanker. Did you teach him all he knows? | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
like to think so, yes. He did a lot of tackling for me. What he has | :14:18. | :14:27. | |
gone on do do is fantastic. Craig, you are a Birmingham man? West Brom. | :14:27. | :14:33. | |
I'm more used to the round ball, but I'm enjoying it. We have got an | :14:33. | :14:42. | |
album out on Monday, we are on a UK tour, four shows in Wales. I like | :14:42. | :14:48. | |
the Scarlets tie! He will be introducing the next on their | :14:48. | :14:58. | |
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angled. He kept it in field. Evans did not had too much time to | :15:13. | :15:23. | |
play with. Jason tabby did not want the quick throw from Tonderai | :15:23. | :15:33. | |
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ball was bouncing around. That was high tackle. That is a two | :16:44. | :16:54. | |
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incidents of foul play now. down the field. That is the way it | :17:52. | :18:02. | |
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chant of, off, goes up. It is hard to judge what has happened. If the | :18:41. | :18:51. | |
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referee does not see it, he does Stephen Jones. That must have hurt. | :19:23. | :19:33. | |
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play. He was trying to do the miracle ball. There is the line-out. | :19:45. | :19:52. | |
He went up. He grabbed his arm. That was not intentional. A penalty, | :19:52. | :19:58. | |
nothing else. Andrew Coombs looks to be struggling with his right arm. | :19:58. | :20:08. | |
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It is his shoulder, I think. Jevon Grose is on to replace him. -- | :20:14. | :20:24. | |
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Groves. He is a church village Bory. free ball. Scrum, red. | :21:29. | :21:36. | |
sloppiness of the play. Once they have the attack, the ball was out | :21:36. | :21:43. | |
side. Again, here, they have to straighten up. But the accelerator | :21:43. | :21:53. | |
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on. He gets pushed off. They went wide and once again. There we are. | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
Ken and Owens came in through the middle. I do not think he was | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
behind the back foot. He was way behind the back foot. That was poor | :22:06. | :22:14. | |
presentation by the Dragons. It was poor presentation. Two changes in | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
the front row. It is the experienced Steve Jones at hooker | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
and alongside him, Nathan Williams. He had a couple of games for the | :22:26. | :22:35. | |
Scarlets last year, Nathan Williams, from have a third West. -- | :22:36. | :22:45. | |
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Dragons, but they are not nailing them. It was Erin Brewer who caused | :23:57. | :24:07. | |
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Only one place he is going. His lead got caught underneath. Just | :24:26. | :24:36. | |
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what the left leg. He collapsed. I just hope no serious danger. The | :24:38. | :24:48. | |
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referee gets older over. -- bowled Hopefully it will be OK. Hype | :24:56. | :25:06. | |
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extension. -- hyperextension. had the win knocked out of him | :25:10. | :25:20. | |
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first. -- wind. If we slow it down, this guy is a prop forward. If we | :25:28. | :25:37. | |
run it on full speed, he hesitates and hesitates. If he went early and | :25:37. | :25:46. | |
attacked the prop forward, the gap would open up. Scarlets are making | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
four changes in one ago. We will bring you are to speed with them in | :25:50. | :25:58. | |
a moment. Two in the front row, one in the second row and one in the | :25:58. | :26:08. | |
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try to get out of their own half hooker was birth. The opportunity | :27:07. | :27:17. | |
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was there. -- there. It has been a very physical encounter. The | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
Dragons have done well. We need to freshen things up and bring more | :27:25. | :27:35. | |
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energy to it. We need some energy on the park. Aaron Shingler was a | :27:36. | :27:44. | |
bit dazed. What you tactics? need to keep on working hard. This | :27:44. | :27:52. | |
game will be won by the side who are prepared to work the hardest. | :27:52. | :28:02. | |
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It is a physical local derby. but to replacements in the front | :28:13. | :28:22. | |
row. Lou Reed directly behind them. The first opening for Mat Gilbert. | :28:22. | :28:32. | |
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It did not look very nice. It is Rhys Thomas all the time. If that | :28:42. | :28:48. | |
is the case, he needs to yellow card him, unfortunately, if he | :28:48. | :28:55. | |
things that is the case. The third penalty against him, the next one, | :28:55. | :29:05. | |
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pretty obvious come up the way the very often before. He has three | :29:21. | :29:31. | |
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underneath it. That was close, very Adam Hughes. Rees Thomas is now | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
coming off of. He has been penalised, the referee spotted it, | :30:20. | :30:30. | |
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off he comes. Deacon Manu is on for Ouch! Smith just caught one in the | :31:32. | :31:42. | |
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Ashley Smith gets attention. Yes, That is a superb kick from Stephen | :32:12. | :32:22. | |
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Jones. Quickly taken, though, but seen the contact, I haven't seen | :33:02. | :33:12. | |
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the man. There were so many bodies, I haven't got a number for you. | :33:12. | :33:22. | |
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will have a look now. Similar situation, it is a dangerous tackle. | :33:25. | :33:35. | |
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It is a penalty. Let's see the are in danger of throwing the baby | :34:02. | :34:11. | |
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out with the bathwater. It is not scoring a try, so now they have to | :34:17. | :34:26. | |
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kick... Have a bit of that. It is actually Ben Morgan who caught him. | :34:39. | :34:49. | |
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committed to the ruck. Not one person. One on the floor, that is | :35:32. | :35:42. | |
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it. Lovely hands, Martyn Thomas. really. Just in the end. Just watch | :36:06. | :36:16. | |
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this. Good pass again, nothing on, to the Watney gone against the | :36:31. | :36:39. | |
Barbarians before the World Cup. He's always at hand ball. -- a | :36:39. | :36:49. | |
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Martyn Thomas was penalised. This will be interesting. He certainly | :38:41. | :38:51. | |
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the ball, bodies going here and there, and blocking, all sorts. | :38:56. | :39:04. | |
has moved the ball forward a couple of yards. Scott Morgan has spotted | :39:04. | :39:14. | |
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within a converted try of getting new front row. They haven't caught | :40:51. | :41:01. | |
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very well with the high ball, have Anywhere will do, away from those | :41:12. | :41:22. | |
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forwards. It is still on for the Scarlets. Good counter rucking, | :41:23. | :41:31. | |
once again. Someone is going. will be alive. I bet it is number | :41:31. | :41:41. | |
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up, trying to get out of the way, that is a clear penalty, yellow | :42:02. | :42:12. | |
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the first half for Stephen Jones, he has had to wait almost half an | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
hour into the second half to add to that. But that could be the most | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
important of the maul, because it has put the Scarlets two scores | :42:44. | :42:54. | |
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looked like scoring a try, they out now for the Dragons. They have | :43:51. | :44:01. | |
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got to find two scores from collapsing, it will just eat | :44:11. | :44:21. | |
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Dragons will certainly be hoping to Brew. If he cut his error rate | :44:42. | :44:52. | |
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the defence in numbers. What him stand off. That is what the Dragons | :45:16. | :45:25. | |
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should have picked up on and driven through the middle. Adam Hughes. | :45:26. | :45:36. | |
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Good tackle by Adam Warren. Nobody dared at scrum-half. -- nobody | :45:37. | :45:47. | |
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chance. The ball was slowed down once again. The ball has been so | :46:08. | :46:18. | |
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slow for both sides. It is ball marks for the Scarlets defence. | :46:21. | :46:31. | |
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bin. Steffan Jones to come on for Scarlets. Aaron Hughes has looked | :47:35. | :47:45. | |
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terms, 9-9. And in Humphreys penalty. Great defensive work by | :47:52. | :48:02. | |
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all to do. Watch the numbers again. them a losing bonus point. Every | :48:31. | :48:37. | |
point is pressures for them. Two league wins so far this season. -- | :48:37. | :48:47. | |
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Dragons are looking to see if they Dragons are hoping that will be | :49:33. | :49:43. | |
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enough to get them the losing bonus least have something to cheer at | :49:57. | :50:07. | |
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offside position? Martyn Thomas cramping up as play continues. It | :50:41. | :50:46. | |
will be a Scarlets scrum. Your decision for man of the Match? | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
has been a tough call. For sentimental reasons, Stephen Jones | :50:52. | :50:59. | |
would be there. He has kicked very well tonight was I think it is | :50:59. | :51:05. | |
Gavin Thomas for the Dragons. For me, and the input he has had come | :51:06. | :51:14. | |
up my man of the match tonight is that man - Aled Brew. Always | :51:14. | :51:20. | |
committed. He has not had much opportunity. Everything he has done, | :51:20. | :51:28. | |
he has done exceptionally well. has come close to scoring. He came | :51:28. | :51:34. | |
close to creating something from nothing on that occasion. His work- | :51:34. | :51:44. | |
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under the cosh. The Scarlets kicked off with when Ben four defeats | :52:04. | :52:14. | |
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before they bounced back. Good hands. It was linked to read. -- | :52:29. | :52:36. | |
blue read. Will the Dragons bonus point take it away from them? That | :52:36. | :52:46. | |
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little discipline. That could really cast the Dragons. Jevon | :52:56. | :53:01. | |
Groves was disappointed with the decision in the first place. That | :53:01. | :53:07. | |
could make the difference between a point or not. It was just on the | :53:07. | :53:17. | |
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edge before them. I cannot see him kicking for the night. Six from six | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
from the scarlet captain. He takes a way of what the Dragons had | :53:35. | :53:45. | |
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fought so hard for it - the losing Groves tried to take a very quick | :53:55. | :54:05. | |
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the Scarlets are in possession. They should be looking to play down | :54:11. | :54:18. | |
the clock of put the Dragons so far down their territory it is not | :54:18. | :54:27. | |
practical to get back within striking range. They are in the | :54:27. | :54:37. | |
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same position. Lamont should go definitely have to go for goal. | :54:43. | :54:53. | |
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Will Adam Hughes go again? Will this. He put his hands up. Fair | :55:02. | :55:12. | |
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the game. He has not had a big run- up, has he? A big kick it is for | :55:32. | :55:38. | |
the Dragons and for Steffan Jones. From right on halfway, he has fired | :55:38. | :55:44. | |
it towards the post but it is wide of the post. The Dragons looked as | :55:44. | :55:50. | |
though they are going to go home empty-handed after all. Maybe they | :55:50. | :55:59. | |
will have one restart. Two kicks very close. That was clever play | :55:59. | :56:09. | |
Ethel stub the game is over. -- clever play. That is it. It has | :56:09. | :56:15. | |
been done and dusted. End of the match and no bonus point. Youth | :56:15. | :56:21. | |
feel they should have come away with something. They did dominate | :56:21. | :56:26. | |
for the large part of this game but they were not clinical enough. The | :56:27. | :56:32. | |
Scarlets took their chances and the Dragons did not. The Dragons go | :56:32. | :56:37. | |
home empty-handed. The unbeaten run by the Scarlets continues. They | :56:37. | :56:47. | |
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have beaten the Dragons by 22 It was a case of missed | :56:50. | :56:56. | |
opportunities. The Dragons were the better side on balance. It is all | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
about being clinical and taking what comes your way. Stephen Jones | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
was instrumental in ensuring the scoreboard kept ticking over. The | :57:07. | :57:15. | |
try was the difference between the two sides. Well done. Another win | :57:15. | :57:22. | |
to add to that run. What was the difference between the two teams? | :57:22. | :57:27. | |
At the end of the day, it was the try. Very disappointed with the way | :57:27. | :57:37. | |
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the game went. As a result of that, You have had seven out of eight now. | :57:51. | :57:59. | |
By you, did you can keep that going? We will try harder. -- are | :57:59. | :58:07. | |
you confident? It was not pretty, it was not a great night. Thank you. | :58:07. | :58:15. | |
Let's have a look at the table. The Scarlets up up to 6. The Dragons | :58:15. | :58:22. | |
are up in 11th place. It was an interesting thing. We said Stephen | :58:22. | :58:28. | |
Jones had an important point to prove. Aled Brew was the official | :58:28. | :58:34. | |
man of the match. He did everything well. He showed some nice touches | :58:34. | :58:40. | |
of skill - some brute force. I felt sorry for the Dragons tonight. They | :58:40. | :58:46. | |
gave it everything. The crucial scrum with 15 minutes left. They | :58:46. | :58:52. | |
got turned over. That was the end for them. What a team-mate of the | :58:52. | :58:59. | |
comments by the referee? It was not great. -- what do you make of the | :58:59. | :59:06. |