06/03/2016 Scrum V Sunday

On the programme tonight, we have all the big games. He is still

going, what a run. And we have all the big names as we look back on the

Pro12 and ahead to the Six Nations. The first thing they will be looking

to do... It is not going to be easy because Wales will not make it easy.

CHEERING There are just six days to go

until England and Wales The winners will almost definitely

be crowned Six Nations champions. On our panel tonight,

three Welsh legends who know all about tasting sweet

victory at England's HQ. Would you please give a warm

welcome to Martyn Williams, Our star at the bar tonight

is a member of Welsh rugby's I'll have the latest

from the Principality Premiership, and will also have a chat

with former Wales captain, and a British and Irish

Lion, Ryan Jones. All that to come. Plenty to get

through this evening. Let's begin with the Pro12,

and Leinster versus the Ospreys. The Ospreys handed Rhys Webb

Vikander captaincy. This man was released by Wilson balk at the pack.

Leinster have a 100% record in the Pro12 and made seven changes.

Including the international back pairing of Ian Madigan.

Cracknell, Davies with a lovely of Lord. Evans unceremoniously dumped.

Maintaining possession, the men in white, the Ospreys. That was a three

shot. They will go back for a penalty

advantage. There was silence from the crowd, as

you would expect. And do him and the and the Ospreys the world of good.

He cannot get the ball across to Marty's foetal the protection it

needs. There is a little break. McFadden, who has a got inside? He

has support. It looks like Dan Leavy and he will go over for the try.

He holds his line. Owen Watkin does well. The ball is there. The Our

Mick from the referee. They will get something. It was sloppy again. An

opportunity. They will go back and take the penalty.

Clear outcomes. Cracknell has worked tirelessly. He is away! Great play

and no more than the Ospreys deserve.

That was a better ball at the front. No challenge from Leicester. It goes

through the hands, Bacon again, still going inside the 22. -- Baker

again. There was a clear out. Just right under the nose of the referee,

right on the spot. Delicate hands from the try scorer, Baker. Everyone

was confident that we would get in the top six and there is no reason

why we can't. We have the squad and strength of depth. We have these

hard games, away games are away and looking forward to getting back home

and finishing off strong. A tenth win in 11 for Leinster,

and they remain unbeaten at home Rhys Webb was fairly upbeat after a

valiant performance. Ultimately, and it pains me to say this because we

have a lot of fans in, is that it's the title ambitions? They it

difficult. After the Connacht game last week. I think they have maybe

lost one game with internationals back. From the way that they started

the season, they have left themselves a long way to go.

Leinster, ten out of 11. They are slowly becoming the team were used

to them being. One guy was a standout. Ben Te'o was probably the

difference. It has taken him a year to bed in. I am sure Leinster will

be really disappointed because just when he finds his feet in union, he

signed for Worcester. It is not just as ball carrying. Yes, he's good

with that but he before contact us well. He has brought a real

different edge to the way that they attack. They are looking really

strong, Leinster and they will finish in the top two. They have a

home semifinal. For me, they are favourites to win the whole thing.

Not only is Ben Te'o effect with the ball in hand, here's a pretty mean

player in rugby league. Sam Davies had a great game of the actors come

into his own. He was singled out for attention by Ben Te'o and he dealt

with it manfully. I think so. His game as come on leaps and bounds. He

was silly targeted. But he made his tackles on Ben Te'o, who is bigger

strong. He made a couple of errors but generally his performance was

excellent. He is a great kicker and has been since the day he stepped

into the number ten jersey. He is developing his game fantastically

well. His running ability, his ability to beat people into space

and is the tradition. He is growing and his maturity grows as he goes

on. Will he play regular rugby? There will be another player coming

back to fill the number ten position at Ospreys. Where he is at the

moment, when you consider where they stand in the pecking order, he needs

to play week in and week out. I do not think he will get that at

Ospreys. His greatest death in -- he is great to step in to those shoes,

but I think he needs to play regular rugby. Is he too good to play second

choice? I think so. With Dan, he is meticulous with his practising and

the hours that he spends. Sam is exactly the same and has worked

incredibly hard but it is game time that he needed and he has that now

and he is starting to show people what he can do. It would be a shame

for him to be sat under the bench. He is a class operator and needs to

play. Dan Baker at number eight. He had a sniff of international action.

He was not in the squad for the Six Nations but he showed his class. He

has a powerful lad. In my last couple of years when he came

through, you can see at the class and power and the step, everything.

They were working hard on his fitness. The poor kid was running

laps and laps and they were relieved the sting him. He's getting his

confidence back now with a run after not making the World Cup squad. He

is a fantastic prospect. Wells made him as well. -- Wales. If the number

it ever does get injured, we do not have a back-up. He has to get a run

and get fit will stop here is a fantastic talent with bags of

potential. Intriguingly, Rhys Webb paid the fill 80 minutes. -- played

the full 80 minutes. paid the fill 80 minutes. -- played

control on the game yesterday, his service, generally what you want

from a number nine. We did not see the blistering breaks, but that will

come. He could well be drafted into the squad. I do not think he will

step into the squad for the England game but I think they will want him

back as quickly as possible. He is a pretty good position at number nine.

He is certainly one starting to find his feet again after just three

games. He has tweeted in my career so far. Hopefully a few

more to beat that but that was special. Seeing Gareth score that

try, it was fantastic. We could not believe it. There was a little glass

of champagne after that. The speed of Gareth Davies. Who is inside him?

He spends, another little kick by the scrum-half... There was maybe

one occasion in the last game we are you with a cross kick rather than

pass. Yes, I sat down and we spoke about that incident with the coach.

He told me that I should be looking to pass the ball instead of kicking

it through. If I make a break like that on the weekend, the first thing

I would do is pass it. He gave me a clip on the head as well! Warren

said that he need to maybe be a bit more vocal. Is that shyness? A bit

of shyness. I am quite shy, believe it or not. Yes, he has always been

quite quiet. But when it comes to the crunch, I am sure he will be

bossing everyone around. When he has to, yes. I speak quite well in the

pitch with my forward. I am not the type of person that speaks up in

meetings for the sake of it. If there is something that needs to be

said, I will say it. The more I find my feet in the squad, the more that

will come naturally to me. It is kept alive to Rhys Webb, and Rhys

Webb will finish every day from that position. Rhys Webb got a first try

back last week. What about that? I get on really well with Rhys. It

would be great to have him back with us and a great battle for the

jersey. Do you have a message for Rhys Webb, if he is watching now?

Hope you are well. What a great season it has been for the starlets.

-- Scarlets. They have done really well this season. We said, this is

to be a target for us, to finish in the top four. In the top two, to get

a home play-off. After the Six Nations, it be massive derby,

Scarlets against Ospreys. It would be nice to have a game against Rhys

The weekend before the Ospreys game, hopefully that will be a massive

game and it will be the game for the championship. Hopefully we beat the

English, then the Ospreys the week after. That would be just as big.

And it is Mother's Day on Sunday. What is your message for your mum?

Is at this week? It is Mother's Day this Sunday, make sure you Colin and

see your mum! -- make sure you call by. I will get some flowers or

something. Thanks for everything, mum, have a nice day. Thank you for

being a lovely son. And we all very proud of him, yes.

Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers watching today. We talked

about Rhys Webb. Gareth Davies as well. We are blessed in that

department. You must be a nightmare to mark. He is brilliant. We have

seen him at Scarlets, scoring 50, 60 metre tries at regional level. Can

he do this at international level? And he has. If you are forward, they

are the worst type of scrum-half 's to play. He is a big, powerful guy

as well. He's quick. We forget to inexperienced dessert and a national

level. He has played under one year at this level. -- inexperienced that

he is at a national level. We are blessed that he has taken over from

Rhys Webb through injury. He is not bizarrely first choice at Scarlets

often, he does not get a huge run of games at his club. If we look back,

he got into that Welsh side before Rhys Webb was injured. He made the

position his own. He is the biggest attacking threat that we have. As

part of his game, he still has areas to develop. He mentioned his

decision-making and some of the work he does with controlling people up

front in particular. At international level, you have to get

it right 97% of the time and you cannot afford to drop under that.

Alongside the great scrum-half alongside him, as an attacking

threat, he is fantastic. He is under pressure, not just at international

level from Rhys Webb and Lloyd Williams, but down at Scarlets. That

pressure will make him a better player long-term. Did you like

getting bossed about by scrum-half 's? I had a fight with Garreth

Gilbert at the Ospreys. On my own team! I hate scrum-halfs. They are

nightmare. Talking of scrum-halfs and great scrum-halfs, what Gareth

Davies' mum told us was Dwayne Peel was Gareth's hero growing up. Dwayne

Peel has announced his retirement from all rugby this week. 76 caps

for Wales, three for the Lions. Maybe the second best scrum-half in

Wales ever? Look, he was a great player. He had

a couple of seasons, 2005 in 2006, with the Lions, where he was the

best in the world. His trademark of getting goals from quick penalty set

from everyone. He had a great passion for the game as well. He did

it with a bit of humour. He is a bit of a character. One thing he wasn't

was quiet. Dwayne would boss you're in the park. He was brilliant and

you would not have to think. He was behind you, chirping away.

Unfortunately, he went off the scene a little bit by going to Sale

But one of the best I ever played with. He is still involved in the

game. He is doing coaching work at Bristol. He's involved in the

development of the game at Scarlets. To keep those qualities, to help

develop the future, is fantastic. What a Dream Team that would be. We

will wait and see what happens. Talking of Scarlets, let's go to

them. They welcome Treviso on Friday night.

The Scarlet just once in the league this season on home turf and they

welcomed back international is like Jake Ball and Alan Davies. And

Scotland's John Barclay at number eight. He had a try scoring

performance against Italy last week in the Six Nations.

Maybe a bit more space out wide this time. Great run by Stefan Evans. And

he is still going, what I run and what a try by Stefan Evans!

Brilliantly finished by the youngster.

James Davies, having a little local the top to see you close that line

is. -- having a little look over the top. James Davies busts over, one --

was he there? I would say some of that was on the line.

That was a clean break. He is inside... But he is hauled down by

Hadleigh Parkes. He digs it clear, calling on the outside but it goes

to Gareth Owen. That should have been a try for Treviso.

Barbieri spends. Yes, say Treviso. -- Barbieri spins.

Taken by Tom Palmer. In goes Barbieri. They struggled in the

first half to get the ball to the ground. Barbieri is still in charge.

Up to the try line. It is eight try. -- it is a try.

An interception for Barbieri. He's going to go all the way for a

second. This could put a visa ahead. What a turnaround. The mistakes

continue from the Scarlet. Robert Barbieri profits again. Scarlet 's,

sensing this is a chance they want to take advantage of. Good hands by

Park. Evans, and that is a crucial try for the Scarlet.

It may have been a different game. They cool aid well, put us under

pressure. -- they played well. It is another win for the skulls,

there are 12 of the season. Rob, they look assured of a play-off

place, but how much to you think will regret that missed bonus

there is no doubt, going into the game, they would have chatted about

that. You have to see sides like that off. They are bottom of the

table for a reason. Although they picked up a couple of home wins, you

would expect a side as good as this girl is to come back with a bonus

point. It all started so well, Martin. Evans was on fire, he was

man of the match, unsurprisingly. You tweeted afterwards that he

should be in the Welsh squad. Is he that good? I think he is, I think

he's different. We have a lot of big, powerful runners. He has a

great step. 15 is probably his favourite position. I know this is

only against Treviso. I think get him in the system. I think he really

has something about him. He has a good left peg. I think he is really

one for the future. We are not blessed with a load of wingers. We

have George Cuthbert, Hallam Amos, they are all quite similar. He would

bring another dimension. That is the key, something different. We have no

chains at the moment in the system. I think we need to bring him through

and offer something a bit different. One man impressed you, Ian, Jake

Ball. He probably hasn't played enough minutes for Wales, in his

opinion, this season. He is a good player. With Luke Charteris

struggling with injury, and he limped off at the end of the game,

we're a bit concerned, because he is a great guy. He is sort of

unrecognised. He goes about his business and nobody talks him up. He

is really physical, and he is a very good second row. We need him fit,

especially if something happens with Luke Charteris will stop here is the

natural successor. The latest on Luke Charteris is that he did not

play this weekend. He is running at the moment, so fingers crossed he

will be back in contention. We are blessed in the second row

department. Before we move on to the Scarlet 's. We have talked about the

expansive rugby they have been playing, and the new recruits. They

looked sublime at times on Friday night. Most back lines, whether you

are a ten or out wide, you would want King there because he creates

space for others. His footballing ability, and he holds the ball up

long enough to put others into space, and that's a gift. I think he

has made a huge difference. Hadley parks, strong and powerful, never

let you down, so I think you have a good mix in midfield. With Stephen

Jones calling shots behind, he knows he can get the best out of them.

Let's move on to the Blues and find out how they got on against Glasgow.

First, the Dragons, pride to play for when they took on Munster.

The Dragons haven't won all season on the road, but they are looking to

do the double on Munster. Hallam Amos return to action after being

released from the Wales squad. Williams, away. Donald coming in on

the angle. Williams, keeping the movement going.

Down, just short, by Adam Hughes. Williams, just held up by Harris.

Chances still there for Munster. Agonising way short of the line.

Dragons, just about holding out at the moment. Here come Munster again.

Pounding away at the Dragons line. They claim the try. Trying to force

the ball down, just get it on the line. First score after 80 minutes.

Pods/ waiting underneath the Dragons post. Dragons know what's coming -

can they stop it, though? Williams get it away to Scannell. His first

try in the league. The ball pops back for Williams. The inside ball.

Plenty of willing runners amongst the Munster pack. Williams, up to

Foley. He is a replacement for chisel.

Foley. He is a replacement for to cross well. -- Crosswell. The

Wales squad make it look easy. Copeland looks miles offside. The

decision had already been made. Tap and go from Pretorius. Has he got it

Oh, he's lost it! That could be a Another one from Dell.

Oh, he's lost it! That could be a chance for a Lee Jones. The chance

is still on for Glasgow as we go into first-half stoppage time. A big

surge from Tim Swinson. He looks to have gotten the ball down. There was

Jones -- Scully coming in. There will be a scramble in the corner.

Who has got the touch down their? Harvey wins the line-out at the

front for Glasgow. Blues' yellow cards will reinvigorate the opposing

side. They ploughed over. Blues will probably stick it up the jumper and

look from their second try from the rolling maul max. -- rolling maul.

Ten metres, 12 metres away. It is getting a bit disorganised on both

sides. Garrett Smith tries to lay it back. There could be an overlap

here. The Blues do have their bonus point try. The disappointment was

the first half. It was so inaccurate, we didn't get anything

going. We have played... It is unfortunate we gave ourselves too

much to do in the second half. It is something we have said a couple of

times this season. -- I have said. That victory keeps Glasgow in with a

shout of defending their title. They stay in seventh, with two games in

hand. No change in the play-off places. Leinster, Scarlet and

Ulster, all competing hard. Munster move above Edinburgh, in fifth. Ian,

that defeat for the Dragons, their fifth in a row in the competition.

Marooned in 10th place, 19 point drift of European qualification.

What has broken their with the Dragons, and what can be done to fix

it? They don't have confidence. Those little 1% moments, the big

moments. They would pride themselves at taking big fixtures and beating

teams, but they are making uncharacteristic mistakes, which you

could put down to confidence. Losing four bonus points in the last few

games. It is hard when a team is low on confidence, how do you stab at

back-up? They have a decent side, but it was like a fortress before.

Everyone percent counted, and they're not doing that at the

moment. How to change that round, I'm not sure. The Blues, Martin,

their East Wales rivals. One place above them in the table. Danny was

honest there, saying it was one of the worst first halves of the

season. They probably have Mark Bennett to thank. How to finish a

try. This is not how to finish. It looks a bit artificial. He doesn't

want to dive onto it. Ultimately, it has cost Glasgow a bonus point. It

was really tight to get into sixth place, and they are probably

thinking top four because they have games in hand. It cost them their

bonus point. The Blues, you cannot work them out this year. For the

last ten minutes of every game, they come back and play brilliant rugby.

It is another season where they will finish probably not the bottom

placed Welsh region, but lots to work on over the summer. Is that

your interpretation, Rob? They don't seem to be consistent? I think it

is. They started off poorly for the majority of games that I have seen.

They have always finished off well. Danny is right - when you have a

spirit and a desire in the team to keep going for 80 minutes, that will

augur well for the future. They have some good new recruits have come in,

so I think it is about planning ahead. The site will get better and

will develop. It was a fans' favourite -- it is a

fans' favourite, Mr Craig Quinnell. Welcome.

APPLAUSE I think it is fair to say you

biggest ever star at the bar. You fill the space comfortably. When

I came here tonight, they thought I was a bit of a bouncer, a barman.

They will be having it in a bit. Security details, I like that. Let's

talk about the Blues. It has been a nod season come as we have just

discussed with the boys. I am not sure how much of an intimate

interest you taking your former team, but what do you think of their

development under Danny Wilson? Danny is making big changes. I spoke

to him at the start of the season, and he came in with a new remit, he

has taken charge and he is going to get the young players in. He will

change how they operate in terms of the number of players in the squad.

He is making a rod for his own back because he is saying, it is up to me

now. He has a couple of seasons to do it. He has some good signings.

But we don't have any big signings. We could do with a couple of big

ones. Rees has gone to the Scarlet. He is Cardiff born and bred, a great

player, and we need to keep them in the capital. We need to grow the

team around people like him. It is a big disappointment, losing him. Some

rumours that Bradley Davies might be on his way back to the Blues. Do you

think he is the kind of signing that would benefit them? Definitely, but

he has to be playing games. A lot of internationals coming back, they

don't play many games. We need players who will come and play a lot

of rugby. He has been at Wasps. It will be harder him to leave them,

because I think they are the best rugby playing team in the country at

the moment. They play great rugby. Let's talk about England versus

Wales. With you behind the bar, there is only one clip to dig out

from the archives. I think you know what's coming. Steve Hanley still

has nightmares about this. Talk us through it.

I think that was the end of Steve? 'S career. Yes, I think I started

the trend of big winners in Welsh rugby! He could not quite get the

players with Ireland and wasps. They look to up to me obviously and they

are doing the business now. Fair play to them, they are doing well

now. I think Steve himself said, he won two caps that day, his first and

his last. They were saying, he is the new Jonah Lomu of English rugby,

and then he broke his arm into places was not seen again. Good for

him, though! I think he christened you the mad hippo that day. Hippo,

rhino, anything which is big and fat and moves quickly. I am all over it!

We're going to come back and talk to you later. But a quick word on next

week. It is building up to be a classic. To all intents and

purposes, it is a Championship decider. Are you excited? Very

excited. The game will be decided in the second rows, like always.

Nothing to do with the scrum halves. Is Joe Launchbury going to come back

for England? Is look going to be fit for us? It is won and lost in the

front five, jokes aside. We need to get a good line-out, because they

have got a really good line-out. If Rob Evans can do a job on Dan Cole,

we are in with a chance. But there is a lot of pressure on Rob Evans.

If we can get parity in the scrum, even get our heads up, then we are

in with a chance. England are playing good rugby, which is one

thing Wales are not doing. It is going to be an exciting game. We

will speak to you again before the end of the game. Thank you for now.

Five games were played in the Principality Premiership yesterday.

This is our round-up. Crosskeys travelled to Pontypridd looking for

a red double over the champions. There was a straight red card for

stamping. Despite being down to 14 men for the whole of the second

half, Pontypridd extended their lead. Crosskeys could only come away

with a losing bonus point. Ebbw Vale coach Nigel Davies faced his former

club Lyn athlete and came away with a bonus point win. Five different

players scored tries. -- his former club Llanelli three. -- than

athlete. This one was nip and tuck all the way, and it took a penalty

deep into injury time to separate the two sites. Cardiff were looking

to hit back after their heavy defeat earlier in the season against the

same opponents, and they took revenge yesterday. Wales

international Aled brew crossed twice for the visitors. No

relegation from the Premiership this year. But there was still plenty to

play for, as Neath went looking for their first victory of the season.

And they were looking like they were going to get it, before the Ravens

had other ideas with a last-minute try. Neath remains rooted to the

bottom. I am very pleased to say that we are now joined by former

Wales and Ospreys captain and former British lion Ryan Jones. Welcome!

Let's talk about your new job. Recently appointed head of rugby

participation with the Welsh Rugby Union. What does your job entail? It

is to champion the community game. I'm going to sit on the executive

board of the Welsh Rugby Union and do just that. Martin Phillips has

charged me and the team with opening the game up to more people, more

often with more enjoyment, essentially. I am thoroughly

enjoying it. I have been out and about and met some fantastic people.

Welsh Rugby Union is in safe hands with people like this at the moment.

One of your first initiatives is a survey, Shape Our Game. What do you

hope to learn from the survey? We have gone out to the public. Nothing

is off-limits. We have got to make sure we position are offering is the

number one for our nation. That is the challenge. We are asking people

to get in touch and fill in the form online. Look at our offering, make

sure it is modern and it is what the people want. And people can still

get in touch? Yes, it is still to the end of the month. If you have

got five minutes, go and fill it in. A lot has been made recently of the

question of safety in rugby, with the potential to and heckling at a

certain age. What can Welsh rugby do to try to attract more people into

the game with that in mind? I think the alternative is far worse. Kids

not knowing this wonderful game is a far worse alternative. I think by

creating a safe environment, with coaches, who are well coached, rugby

is as safe as it has ever been. Player welfare is number one. One

way to track participation is the very successful Wales team. You

yourself have had plenty of success with Wales. And you have had success

at Twickenham, of course. What do Wales need to do? I think it will be

more of the same, if I am honest. It has not been pretty, but it is

winning rugby, which is important. The great discipline in defence they

have shown, with a good set piece, will hold them in good stead.

England have shown glimpses of some good stuff over the last few weeks.

I have shown huge improvement certainly from the World Cup. It

will be a hell of an encounter. Thank you joining us and good luck

with your job. Let's get another view now from across the bridge.

This week, England have decamped to the Georgian splendour of Bath, a

city with a rich rugby heritage and home to scrum five's favourite in

Richmond. -- favourite Englishman. Eddie is showing his experience,

taking it in his stride, and what he is thinking is coming out of his

mouth. 99% of the time, it has been enjoyable and it has been different.

With Eddie, we do not know what he is going to say. And it is fairly

amusing. Banning himself is not good news for us in the media. We want to

know what he is thinking. But in his way, he said, I want to give

Borthwick and the others a chance to face the media. I do not believe it

will be anywhere near as exciting, but nice experience for them. If I

was coach, I would think about putting Owen at ten and bringing

Manu Tuilagi back in. It poses more questions and will make the Welsh

defence think more. With Owen Farrell, he will very rarely go down

that channel so you can spread your defence. England have been

successful at the moment with that partnership. They have scored a

number of tries with the phase play. Manu Tuilagi would not be able to do

that. You can look at the Welsh attack and you can see how deep Dan

Biggar stands. You cannot attack of that, really. It is really difficult

as a centre if your fly half is standing so deep. It brings the

defence onto you. That is why I think they might change it up a bit,

and have two attacking lines. think they might change it up a bit,

Biggar will not be controlling both sides.

with a different attack. Two Lupe is world-class. Right now he is in my

opinion the best in the world at No 8. There is no reason why he cannot

do what Billy does, in a different way.

finishing and...! But for this group of players, they can go out full of

confidence. England will be confident as well, a lot more than

they were in the World Cup. They just seem to be pulling in the right

direction now. Eddie Jones is a great coach, he has got them all off

the same hymn sheet. Whereas under Lancaster in the World Cup, they

made a few changes just before us and there was confusion. They will

not be confused this time, they will be well drilled and confident. There

has been a lot of speculation about potential changes that England might

make. Manu Tuilagi has been much talked about. Will he come back,

will he start at 12? He scored a try today for Leicester, as they beat

Exeter in the Aviva Premiership. But that is exactly what they did wrong

before the Wales game in the World Cup, making no changes in the

midfield, which backfired? I don't think they will make many changes.

There is still a debate at scrum-half. I think Danny Care is a

better player. Tuilagi is a big man and when he plays well, here's a

force be reckoned with. They will be concerned in terms of Jamie Roberts

and what he has done in the first two games of this Championship. They

will try and nullify that. The Eddie Jones factor will be, he does his

homework very well. He did it for Japan during the World Cup. He will

understand Wales, how they play. We all know the way we play. But he

will try to stop Wales getting ascendancy in key areas. Tuilagi on

the bench could offer you that if things are not going well. We saw

the Joe Worsley scenario a few years ago. There is a number of things

which might be a bit front from what we have seen from England so far. At

I think England are getting better. They're going to be a very good

side. We have spoken about the tight five, and who will get superiority

up front. What have you made so far of the Welsh tight five, with Rob

Evans taking to international rugby. Do you think he will have a go at

Dan Cole? Yes, for sure. He is a tenacious character. I think they

did it right with him. The first game, Ireland, they blooded him. I

think he had to take his lungs up at about six to five minutes. And then

Scotland. So he has had a nice introduction. And he has come on

every game. He is comfortable now. He will go right for him, which is

what you have to do every game anyway. Plenty of battle to save

over pitch, perhaps none more so than the Titanic tussle which is set

to unfold it rained the two No 8s. Forces are the agents of change in

the universe... Two males fought as a team to drive off their

predecessors, and they will fight again... This is not the time to

lose your nerve. All things fall at the same rate

under gravity, but do not meet the same fate when they hit the ground.

As night falls, the balance of power will shift... Faletau comes away

with it, and scores! The force of gravity is THE force which I really

feel the effects of. These are tense times.

Yes, Cheadle want to look forward to. We heard he is Guscott saying

Faletau is the best No 8 in world rugby. Him against Billy Vunipola is

one to relish. Immense. Both of them are different No 8s. I think Taulupe

is a more complete player. Vunipola is just a force of nature. They gave

him the ball and he gets over the gain line. He has been England's

standout player now. You cannot man mark Billy Vunipola. But we have got

a very strong defensive setup. They will have something up their sleeve

to stop him in particular. I would expect the same back row for Wales

with Lydiard, Warburton and Taulupe. And I think that is perfect against

Vunipola. A lot has been made of the irresistible Vunipola, but the Welsh

back row is probably one of the best defensive units in the world? Yes,

they are fantastic. The default, we have built all of our success on

defence. But if we are going to man mark him, that will open him up. He

has got a great set of hands as well. Haskell could come into it.

And Jamie Joseph as well. So if you put too many people on him, he can

put others into space. It will be really interesting. I just hope best

team wins. What about comparisons with your brother? I don't know, he

is a different animal altogether. Those boys train and they do

weights... LAUGHTER

They run a lot more upright than Scott did. His centre of gravity was

so low, it was really hard to get him down. With those guys, they are

upright and they can off-load. It is going to be quite a tussle. Rob,

what about those of our silence which Eddie Jones has said he will

do? It has been one of the best sideshows of the Six Nations so far,

Eddie Jones' press conferences. Surely he will not keep his mouth

shut all week? We will have to wait and see. It is just part of Six

Nations. We have had it from Warren Gatland. I think he will probably

stick to it. I don't think he wants to get caught out. He will allow

Warren to carry on and do what he does. I think he will be very

focused on this game, because this is the first real challenge as

England coach for him. I think he feels he has the resources available

to him to go on and win this Six Nations. But I doubt it. Are we in

danger of giving England a bit too much respect? And what do you think

of the history between this Welsh squad and the English squad? The

Welsh have always spoiled the party for England? For sure. When someone

says, we are confident at the moment, to cover up how unconfident

they are. Yes, they are winning. But they have not been amazing. They

have not been looking like a pool of unbeatable team. And they will be

never is. With the likes of Scott Williams scoring from 30 metres, the

Gareth Davies try. Lee Burge and Mike Phillips scoring quick tries.

We have always come and struck them on the counter. It will be an epic

game. Wales to win? Yes. Confident? Can you ever be confident?! It will

be a great game. But yes, a a big moment from a player would be the

snatching point. Rob? I will go for Wales. It will be tight but I think

we are more settled. We have been there. We are not playing great

rugby but it is successful, certainly in the northern

hemisphere, and I think we will do it. Martin, a few weeks ago, you

said England would win the championship. Are they going to win

this game? I have got to stick to my guns. I think home advantage,

England will just make it on Saturday. Will he get out of here

alive?! What a strange note to end on, Martyn Williams predicting an

England victory. I will ask you to give him a round of applause,

nevertheless. Martyn Williams! Rob Jones! Ian Gough! Our star at the

bar, Craig Quinnell! And of course, Ryan Jones! So, Twickenham next. If

Wales go there and win, they will