Six Nations Special Scrum V

Three rounds gone. Two games left for Wales. 1 Triple Crown already

in the bag. Wales complete the Triple Crown. It had everything -

last-ditch tackles. A yellow card. A moment of magic. And the last

minute, heart-stopping moment. Welcome to the Six Nations special.

What a weekend, winning the Triple Crown for the first time at

Twickenham and the Grand Slam dream is still on. Thank you, good

evening. There are lots of very happy supporters on twitcher. I

would chat to a man who knows what it is like to score at Twickenham.

But first, it there was an Oscar for best newcomer, it would have to

go to Scott Williams for that try... Williams leads the charge... Scott

Williams! And please welcome tonight's very special guest, Shane

Williams. Michael Owens. Carwyn -- Gwyn Jones. Welcome to Scrum V.

Making his debut on the Six Nations special so far, on his birthday, Mr

Shane Williams. Happy birthday. The boys had been pulling your leg

about how old you are. 40? 38? I am not 40. Let people want what you

know that. They say that 40 is the new 30 but I am not quite 40 yet.

Let's look back at yesterday. Did you honestly think that Wales would

win this after 70 minutes? In all three games, that has been the

difference. The self belief. I did not think yesterday that Wales were

going to lose. They were either going to draw or win the game and

it was merely the trough. But it has got to the stage for whenever

you see Welles playing, it is with confidence, self-belief and the

boys are mentally tough. They do not expect to lose and this is very

encouraging. After 70 minutes, I could not see them missing. It is a

good side that wins tight games like that? I don't think anybody

gets given anything at Twickenham. And we deserved to win in the end.

Just go back, 1978, the Wales Grand Slam, beating France here. People

forget that we start to their campaign with the 9 - 6 win at

Twickenham. Good teams when things, championships, the Triple Crown.

And they have to fight. They deserve to win. It is magnificent,

to win this at Twickenham? The 20th time as well. It is another record

taken by such a Young crowd. It was a big test for them going into

Twickenham. To go there and win on the back of lots of expectation and

they dealt with that fantastically. It was a well-motivated English

team and they will be devastated but thoroughly deserved. Just so

grateful of so many Young boys. won the Grand Slam. What is it

like? Wales have got nothing to fear. They will beat Italy no

problems, that French game and there are so confident. Amazing to

see such a Young side playing with such maturity. Plenty to talk about

but let's enjoy this once again. The commentators are Eddie Butler

Phillips. The tackle brings down giant George. Rhys Priestland, the

chase is on. And the ball goes dead. The switch by Dickson. England have

the penalty advantage. Owen Farrell. He knew there was a penalty

advantage. Offside against Wales. England take the lead at Twickenham.

The referee should call this. They should be made to play. It cannot

go on and on. Too slow. In tyre is self-inflicted. -- entirely. Leigh

Halfpenny brings the score level. That was a good move by England.

Brad Barritt. Sam Warburton. What a tackle by Sam Warburton! From where

we are sitting, we are looking right down at manner similar to

Laddie. And it looked like he was in. -- Tuilagi. That was a thumping

tackle. Tom Croft. The game is suddenly ripped open. The Leigh

Halfpenny has uncovered. -- has it covered. Here goal England. Gets

the pass. Back to Crush Ashton. -- Chris Ashton. And England with the

penalty. Three from three. This time it is Mike Phillips in no Rush

forward. Leigh Halfpenny goes down. He's going to have a word from

Steve Walsh. Rhys Priestland, 10 minutes in the sin-bin. Three

points on the board. Trouble for Wales. He sacrificed himself. The

back foot, it is way behind.Cohen Farrell puts the three points on

the board and some water between the two countries. Owens, the

hooker. Dan Cole making life difficult for Mike Phillips. But

there is off-side, so Wales have the penalty. The have Plan A, off

the post. Reducing the gap. The -- Leigh Halfpenny. Scott Williams.

They will not know why that ball was not given up the two-man

overlap. Priestland. Only had Jonathan Davies outside. He goes on

his own. Penalty for Wales! He did Williams! He scores a try that

might take Wales to their Triple Crown at Twickenham! Good upper-

body strength. It was a third race. That was great work from Scott

Williams. That has won the game for his team. To lackey. 22. Scott

Williams has to hobble back. Chris Robshaw against Rhys Priestland.

Sam Warburton has to release the ball. Flawed. Towards George. And

the ball eludes both George North and David Strettle. We are into

overtime. In England driving. metre short. Which way will they

try to win this? Or draw? For the line! David Strettle. He did not

get the ball down. It looks as if he did? They momentum takes him

there. Does he play said? No... -- place it. His is inconclusive but

the ball as down. No try. Three victories out of three. It

has been decided by that final try APPLAUSE that was the game and

these are the thoughts of the I had been to Twickenham many times

and it has not been a happy hunting ground for many Welsh teams and to

win the way we did, I think we probably paid better in previous

games but we will take the win and we will tough it out and show

character. Even though we went down to 14 men and I thought the way we

reacted was really good. We kept ball in about 19 phases. It was

probably the most composed we have been. We did well on the pitch.

we believe in our ability and in the team and in each other. We

understand what we can achieve as a group. We have high expectations

and we understand what we can do and it is great to be a part of it.

It is a really good time. I looked up and saw him going through and I

was praying something happened with a lucky bounce. Things aren't going

our way, luckily and you need a bit of luck. -- are going our way.

is pretty inconclusive. It is tough, isn't it? Once again, many

congratulations. I understand you do not drink a lot after a match

but have some chocolate. I have got a selection for you. One that milk

and one white. Thank you very much. All the best. I am not sure if he

has beaten all the chocolate but have some on us. Other chocolate

What an outstanding game of rugby that was. I do not subscribe to be

opinion Wales did not play well yesterday it. They made up for

everything with great organisation when they did not have the ball.

These statistics reflect a brutal encounter with neither team given

an injured. Possession in favour of Wales but it could have been

cleaned and quicker. The team offloading well in the tackle often

wins the match but it was defence that was the key. 92 %. Leading,

B's outstanding players. Their technique and commitment were

breathtaking. I have got to talk about the hero's. Getting Jenkins

made 12 tackles and three carries all stop more than any of the

English forwards in the game. --. More than any of the English

forwards are. The work rate is second to none. He is putting be

tackles him, look at these examples. He is working for his team. He did

He is working for his team. He did the groundwork. This was one of the

best features of the game. Gethin Jenkins is still driving. Iain

Evans, not many people are talking about him, but he has been

outstanding in all the matches, not just yesterday but instrumental

throughout. He got the ball to Mike Phillips and got him on that front

foot and got that advantage. Be counter-attacking as well is

something he is always looking to something he is always looking to

do. A superb player. The critical area for me was when Rhys

Priestland was off the pitch. Three points each. Wales in possession

for that period for eight minutes. Controlled, patient and

professional. England had possession 40 minutes and 55

seconds but heart of that was taken up by a penalty. -- two minutes.

They will be favourites but they have learned to live with the

pressure because of the self-belief they enjoy it. Wales to win the

Grand Slam for me now! The management will be purring. It was

a great defensive display. Not just yesterday but against Scotland as

well for long periods of time and they were disciplined and fantastic.

They trust each other and that is coming through. When they get that

tackle above the gain-line, they will be causing havoc at the

breakdown and the discipline is very good. In some of the

newspapers, Moseley English newspapers, one headline said that

the disallowed try handed be Triple Crown to Wales. Let's talk about

that. It was clearly close. They went for it but look at it from the

Welsh point of view. Leigh Halfpenny was closest to the ruck

when that ball went out. He went on when that ball went out. He went on

that tackle and sacrificed his body hoping to stop David Strettle. We

are talking about the one %. Three Welsh players in the last seconds

of the match were trying to stop that try and successfully stopped

him getting that ball down. Matches can be won on tiny things all stop

the dark --. That is where the the dark --. That is where the

small margins are coming in this level. The training and the

intensity is there all the time and the discipline on and off the pitch

will stop the same in 2008 --. same in 2008. You have got to hand

it to Kemp. We often forget about that but that was a turning point

all stop we have talked about the - -. We had talked about the

composure. It was good, I think. It has been the case in Ireland and

could have been the case in Scotland. Scotland had the majority

of possession but they came out and threw everything at Wales again and

Wales contained them. Amazing in the end and they are confident and

they have got the self-belief. They can really give it to the team in

the first half. They do not have to be winning by two or two three

tries. They can draw all lose by a point. They can compete, where the

teams down and they can win in the end. I have played in games where

we have had the majority of possession and have played better

rugby and lost. I cannot see them doing that. Warren Gatland said he

was thinking of taking Rhys Priestland Op. Stephen Jones was

ready to come on but he thought, hang on, I will give him another

chance. That has been in evidence since the World Cup. Everybody was

thinking they were going to the World Cup as a tight group and then

in that game against England Warren Gatland said that was a must-win

game. I have noticed a shift in mentality. The Welsh team has been

talking themselves up. They were expecting to win and that

translation has come through to the players. Wales are going to find a

way to win. That is the hallmark of a great team. Some players grab the

headlines but I am very glad that we have picked up the inevitable

play at that you understand very well. He has got a tremendous

workload. -- players. He has got that responsibility in the Welsh

line-out which he has not done before. He is big and he is getting

harder and he is a physical man and he is good at 10 paces as well. He

is a target in the line-out. When people are coming on and contact is

going on, you can take that, without a problem. You can look at

the very good players and the competition and it is fantastic.

have got Grand Slam winners to the right of me. How good is this team?

Better than 2005? Well, time will tell. Nothing in the bag yet! What

was interesting yesterday is that we did not understand how they were

going to play it. They had a couple of matches in poor conditions,

England and suddenly, the sunshine was shining and they played very

well and they were winning the battles in the pitch is with Manu

Tuilagi doing well. But they took the game a wave from asked. It was

not pretty. We kicked, we chased and not as we would do normally and

we were put under a lot of pressure, a very proud team and they threw

everything at us. They do not lose many at Twickenham and we must give

credit to Stuart Lancaster. They have got AGM with Owen Farrell.

has got a great temperament. 19 years of age and he is playing very

well. He has been amazing and he looks like the buyer that crowd the

opportunity by the scruff of the neck. -- player. Take us inside the

scamp -- camp would Scott Williams. Will he would be reminded about

that? Wales and especially Warren Gatland will be very critical and

he would have been mindful of the fact that we did have that overlap

and they should have scored. He was glad he got that try because he

made that mistake, Scott Williams. But he kept control of every bank.

We talk about 92 % of effective tackles. Shaun Edwards will not be

happy with that. People want more than that. He will. But we had a

few missed tackles. Defence was very good but I thought the scrum

was even better. When defence was broken, Sam Warburton's tackle, he

tackled Manu Tuilagi with his shoelaces in the end. Leigh

Halfpenny came across and knocked himself out with the tackle. They

really did not want to let themselves down. They want to stop

any team scoring against them and that is the mentality that they

have got at the moment. They are a mentally tough grip and I do not

want to see them losing. -- tough team. The panel are talking about

mental toughness and it was quite good yesterday but it was

incredibly codes and Sam Warburton said they did not play well. --

incredibly close. We did not play well but England did not allowed us

to play well. It was a very physical encounter. It was the

actual desire that the team had when the lines were broken. At and

Jens was scrambling and Sam Warburton. We mentioned Leigh

Halfpenny. -- Adam Jones. The really positive attitude mentally

has been great and has been there since the World Cup. One thing that

they have got in common is that none of them were born when you

scored your tries in 1988. They are very young! Have they got maturity

beyond their years? Yes and that comes from playing together and

they had been together for about one year. They have got that

momentum and they are playing well and played well in the World Cup.

Winning helps and the management have got to take a lot of accolades

for creating that positive mental attitude. We remember that try,

Adrian! It is time to round up the court report elsewhere. Starting

with the Under 20 team and six Twickenham. They lost by 33 points

to England. But it was a proud day for the Owens family, the second

row, Becky Owens, tread on the same ground as her brother as the hooker.

No joy for the students or England and Wales deaf. The death suffering

their first defeat to England in 10 years. Dragons came from behind

against Aironi to take it with the strife. The Six Nations again. And

the round up with Scotland against France. That was a loose pass,

Scotland at a standstill. Gives it wide to Lee Jones. Stuart Hogg for

the try! And Scotland have that to John Baptiste. The loose head.

They go to a different pace. That was a quick ball. Not there this

time. Francois Trinh-Duc. And now, space, perhaps out wide. Wonderful

try. And France hit back. Wesley Fofana. Vincent Clerc. And a real

chance, now. Taken by Richie Vernon. And he gets it, it is a try for Lee

Jones. And a second try for Scotland. Deceptively strong. He

has support. And France will have that try. Maxime Medard under the

posts. Once more, France reply in style. Back it goes, Sexton. He

stepped inside and scrabbling onwards. And Keith Earls for the

try. So near the line, tries to get it down. Held just short, says the

referee. Italy have so many men. For the try for Italy, Sergio

Parisse. Back it comes to Gordon D'Arcy. Surely, Stephen Ferris? He

gives it wide to Tommy Bowe and he goes in for the try, which will

give Ireland the lead at half-time. Stephen Frears. Marching to the

line. Sexton. The long pass and Tommy Bowe is in for his second try.

The RBS Six Nations Man of the Match, president Lee for his

flawless kicking. Andrew Trimble for the corner. It will be another

Wins for Ireland and France and this is how the table looks

tonight... Wales now have two home games, Italy and France at the

Millennium Stadium and the French take on Ireland next Saturday in

that rearranged match in Paris. Ireland winning their first game in

Dublin. Scotland and Italy await their first points of this year's

championship. Jonathan Davies has been at Murrayfield today, working

for BBC Sport. I spoke to him earlier and began by asking him for

his assessment of Scotland against France. I think Scotland have more

ideas to go up with. Disappointing in the line-out, flat, they started

well and scored a couple of tries but there is just something missing,

they lost momentum and too many handling errors and free-kicks and

they lost their way. They just have not got that man at half back at

the moment with a few injuries as well, which is sad, but France will

improve. And they will get better through the tournament. Will's very

much on course for the showdown against France. Is there anything

to fear in the French side? I think there is. They are capable of doing

fantastic things, they have a strong pack, the scrum was dominant

against Scotland and they pick up the tempo and they make a break and

then they have got people like Wesley Fofana and Aurelien Rougerie.

And they have got two home games which will give them momentum. And

that will take it into, hopefully, the Grand Slam decider in Cardiff.

What pleased you most about Wales's performance at Twickenham? Winning.

Everybody says how good England were and what they did but

ultimately, they still lost the game. They did play well, better

that everybody expected, defensively they put Wales under

pressure. But Wales came out on the other end and they want and winning

at Twickenham is very tough. I thought that maybe we did not take

enough from deep, we put ourselves under pressure in a tight game.

Leigh Halfpenny, he did not take enough from the back and we put

ourselves under pressure. But the opportunity came, we could have

scored a try with Scott Williams on the break. And then Scott Williams,

that fantastic moment for him, from the halfway line, scoring a try,

the winning try at Twickenham. For me, it is how they adapted, they

will learn lots from this. Warburton has been magnificent. But

they won. And sometimes, we think we did not play well and we lost.

We did not play particularly well yesterday, as well as we can do,

with a lot to learn, but we won and that is vitally important and it

was a fantastic, fantastic game of rugby. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I

was speaking in the hospitality box earlier and nothing gave me greater

pleasure than walking into that room full of English men! And given

Italy's performance in the Six Nations so far, there will be a

temptation for Warren Gatland to tinker with his team? I think he

did this a couple of years ago and it did not work out. We stumbled a

little bit. Now, it is about adding to what we have done, going into

Italy. And just going there, regain confidence, played very well and

set the Grand Slam decider up. Just go there and play together. That is

what we need to do next. And then build up and look forward to the

French match. Thank you very much indeed. Jonathan Davies at

Murrayfield. What were the boys do with the Italy game? What does

Adrian think? Does Warren Gatland need to resist the urge to tinker

with the team? I think he has learned his lesson, he tinkered a

few years ago and you must keep the combinations together. I would not.

Unless you are forced to tinker with position because of injuries.

I don't think the injured players will have enough game time before

the Italian game. We follow all the players on Twitter and they all

seem to have such a great relationship with each other. They

are teasing each other, they like hanging out, how important is that

to success on the pitch? Massive. You could see the desire from all

of them to help each other right. And scrambling for the defence.

That does not come naturally, it is because you are helping a friend

out. And that shows through all the performances this year. Do you

agree? Would you make any changes? In fairness, Warren Gatland said he

learnt his lesson from a few years ago and made lots of changes so he

said maybe one or two depending on injuries and maybe look at one or

two players but generally, they will do the same. He gave

themselves seven out of him after Ireland, perhaps six out of him in

terms of quality on the pitch. We need it out of him and nine out of

him for France. So that we can go in, knowing that the attacking

lines and the support runners and all of those things come together.

If we play six or seven again, we might not win. And that is the

worry. I think they will keep the same team, roughly. Italy have

shipped 91 points, they have been pretty poor. There is a week break

coming up and the defences fantastic, it is keeping us in the

game. Keeping the strategies, they need to improve, the coaches will

be looking at why we are playing this low ruck a lot of the time.

Just get the momentum in the attacking. We need to create

overlaps rather than relying on individuals. There are bigger

challenges again. A Michael, like it or not, the Welsh public and

rugby fans will talk about the Grand Slam. Well players be

distracted by that? I don't think so, we have a fantastic temperament

and they showed great maturity and they take it one game at a time. It

is fantastic. They would just be desperate to play against Italy and

be really confident. I think they were just tried to smash Italy and

put in a really good performance. And then onwards and upwards. They

will go into this with massive confidence. And that is tremendous

to see because it has not happened ever, that they have been going in

with expectations on them. Scott Williams, five tries in 10

appearances, barely one year under his belt. Put him in against Italy?

Especially after yesterday. But because of the try but he has had a

taste for it. He has had that try, he would not have slept much last

night and fingers crossed, he cannot be to play again. He is

playing with confidence and that will help him at No went for the

next game. But I would not tinker at all, it is all about momentum.

He was already talking about the French game, it is about building

up for that big game and you want you guys to play together. Italy

are a good side. They are a side that her very dog did in keeping

the game for 40 minutes. But if you can weather that storm and have a

good second half, and perform like Wales have, yes, they will blow

Italy away. But Italy are very creative so let's not get ahead of

ourselves, let's keep the momentum because we have to be games left.

The it has been a pleasure to have on the programme. Adrian, Carwyn

Jones,... So, the Grand Slam dream is on and if you thought it was

tense watching, imagine being on the pitch. From one of us -