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Throughout these Rugby World Cup specials, Bruno Williams will be

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analysing every Wales game for us. Last week, I mentioned that the

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most important that was the scoreboard. Box ticked off. We won

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their game. We beat one of the most aggressive rugby teams in the world,

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a team that beat Australia only a month ago. Let's look at why.

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Impressive statistics. Those are phenomenal figures. Lost possession

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is the frustration for Warren Gatland. 29 times, not good enough.

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That has to be improved. I wish there was a stat for the pressure

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the team was under. It was immense. So we have to say well done, lads.

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Yes, very much so. Everyone in the club tonight would endorse those

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words. But a contrasting performance to last week. It was.

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Before last week, their average performance against Samoa was like

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that. A win was the most important thing. It is another box ticked.

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Will the boys be concerned that there were a few errors? There were

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signs of Wales of old, lots of penalties conceded. The set-piece

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was not great. I really enjoyed it seeing Jamie playing very well. His

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depth was very good. It showed in his first touch of the ball. He is

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not a small guy either. The breakdown was a bit of a mess. But

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we won it. Took 70 minutes until my heart stopped beating so fast. But

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it was good. John often, it was nail-biting stuff. What did you

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make of Wales'' tactics? I felt they should have kicked a bit more.

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We had no field position. We could have worked them over on their

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fitness. That full-back had no intention of kicking. The chase was

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not very good. There was a great kick into the left-hand corner. But

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the chase was very poor. They were not going to go the length against

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us. If you pay a -- play against the islanders, when they are in

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your own 22, they go for a try. We were slightly naive. With James

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Hook, I said last week that I do not like him playing full-back. We

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need a balanced back three. Leigh Halfpenny added that balance.

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Slightly disappointed with their tactics. We should have beaten

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South Africa and could have beaten Samoa by more points. Gareth, Leigh

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Halfpenny made a significant difference. But the Samoans have

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improved. But if there is one thing missing from that game, it is the

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overall 80 minute fitness? They are plain a structured game, which is

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alien in the South Pacific Basin. The Fijian game could be the one

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that trips of up, because they do not play that lovely sort of rugby.

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I was surprised at how strutted their game was, as if they believed

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they could wear us down. But there is a new found confidence in the

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Welsh defence. We still make mistakes, but not half as much as

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we have over the last few years. The boys looked very confident in

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stopping them from attacking too deep or around the fringes. When

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you have really got to win the match, that really can play a huge

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part. It is a test of character. Disappointing in many ways. They

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really did not offer too much. I thought it was one-dimensional. If

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the Welsh boys had believed, hey, let's move this a bit more, we

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could have scored more points. Josh, I am not sure if you are a

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fan of Twitter, but some of the Samoan fans have been moaning about

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playing two games in a week. Is it right but they played midweek and

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on Sunday? Her I am not a big fan of Twitter. Thank you for clearing

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that up! That is the reality of the tour. As a top-level sportsman, if

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you start making excuses after the performance, regardless of the

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details, you deal with the cards you are dealt. It will be

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interesting to hear the reaction in the world audience. To be a real

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world class team, you need to be able to be confident and win as

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favourites. For me, there has always been something about the

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Welsh team outside the Six Nations. When you play the South Africans

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etc, you need to be up to go in and do it properly. Again South Africa,

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the guys had nothing to lose. They played in liberator fashion and

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through the ball away almost with a carelessness. But as soon as you

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think, I have to win this, that is when the shutters come down. There

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are two different psyches. You plane not to lose, or you play to

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win. That is very different. If you play to win, you go out there and

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you are confident. If you play not to lose, you shut shop and you are

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not confident enough to run that game. For let's go to Lisa. He is

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in the club tonight? It is Wales and scullers full-back. How is the

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recovery going? A had a successful operation after the game.

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Everything is going well so far. When will you be able to start

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training again properly? Middle of November, I can start walking and

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jogging. Sir you cannot go on holiday and in the meantime? I am

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hoping to go to Dubai in December. Fingers crossed! Were did you think

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of the game today? It must be whole -- so hard for you at home,

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watching the boys. Wales will obviously be over the moon with the

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Thank you very much. England played this morning as well, and we have

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had some tweets Row Josh. Lee Jones would like to know, do England have

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enough creativity to go all the way? Do they need it is the answer.

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I would like to see the best rugby team win this tournament. Rugby

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needs it at a global level. If England or Wales do not win it, I

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would like to see New Zealand. The other day, South Africa were

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clearly the second best side when they played against Wales. So to

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answer that question, be they needed? Young's is the key to their

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success. When he plays, he throws the game out of the window and

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plays what is in front of him. These guys are so pre-planned and

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contrived these days. All the topsides are. Everyone knows each

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other's pattern inside out. It is that ability to play what is in

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front of you and do what the defence is not expecting, and

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youngs brings that enthusiasm. The key position to it is 12. We do not

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have a great number of twelves for England. We did not take the most

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creative 12, Riki Flutey. England go into a final shock? I hope so, I

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have money on it. While judges here, I want to ask him and all of you,

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the nightclub incident has not had a great build-up. Will it affect

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morale in the camp? I hope not. These things happen. Face it, we

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had a few incidents down here as well. We don't talk about them.

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Rugby players are rugby players. We are not angels. Clearly, there is a

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responsibility. You are a professional athlete and you are

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representing your country. But there is also a balance. John Owen

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spot-on with the way he managed this. These are adults and they

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have to make their own decisions. If they make silly decisions, they

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will reap the consequences. You have to be mature. But it is a

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mental way of switching off as well. You cannot control the reporting of

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the story. His tweeting and Facebook and all that. The national

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papers have picked on one individual. Has that been fared?

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They picked on him for one reason. The Welsh players are hopefully

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tucked up in bed now. But the pressure was mentioned. It is not

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only playing the game. The build-up, of the preparation, the training.

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You have got the release, and there has to be a balance. Martin Johnson

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has been brilliant. He said, we have had no complaints, and

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everyone is happy, move on. they have got to write about rugby

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for six weeks, every day. It must have been a godsend for them.

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there something you want to confess? Feel free. We will rip up

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the running order. Guys, thank you very much for now. More still to

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come. We will catch up with Eddie Butler and his road trip of New

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Zealand. I met a busload of Welsh supporters.

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We spent eight hours together. Their driver had talked to them

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non-stop about clematis and pies and ice-cream and the best thing

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about anything in New Zealand. They all stopped here and bought

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earplugs. More from Eddie and back to the Rugby World Cup in a moment

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after we round up at the latest pro club action.

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After last week's tragedy at Gleision Colliery, the Rugby World

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came together to pay its respects to the miners and their families.

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Two unbeaten sides met at Ravenhill on Friday, and it was the home side

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who came out on top, thanks to these two tries for Center Darren

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Cave. Lovely potter Gilroy. -- ball to Gilroy. Ulster have the first

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try. Lovely ball by Spence. This is a cave macro again. Goes low, goes

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early, slides to score. In Treviso, the us praise from behind to two

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Two tries either side of the break, however, saw the ospreys take the

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lead. Isaacs made the most of this chance. And Tom Smith powered over

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after 42 minutes to make it three from three now for Scott Johnson's

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side. The dragons were hoping for their first point of the season at

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a revamped parade, and had a great start, Tom Riley scoring after just

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five minutes. But it was to be a close-fought encounter. Five

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minutes later, Andrew Combes Perot I did his way to the line and the

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dragon has got their win and moved off the bottom of the table. Last

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week, the scarlet went down to Connaught and found Munster and

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equally tough nut to crack on Saturday. A try it on the half-hour

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extended Munster's lead. Replacement scrum half Duncan

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Williams made the game safe. And the bonus point came after 74

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You can see how the Blues get on next week on Scrum 5 Live on BBC 2

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Wales at 7.00pm. Let's get a New Zealand perspective

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of the tournament so far. Thanks. The result of the weekend has to be

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Ireland managing to beat Australia. Surprisingly, the All Blacks

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thrashed Japan. But next week they meet their World Cup nemesis,

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France. In a moment we're going to catch up with our New Zealand gu

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rue, but first, let's enjoy his cartoon take on it.

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# Rugby racing and beer # An international briefing on France,

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a brief but pretty accurate history. These buggers have been up to all

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sorts of things for quite awhile. A what are they into? Executions,

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perfume, snails and creme brulee. It's also worth noting style of

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play - well, the - um, observe - middle of the track. Let's look at

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what the French were doing, nine to ten. Ten was passed to 13, 13 to 15

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coming into the line, 15 to 14 back on the ankle, 14 to 11, 11 cuts 12,

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12 behind the back pop pass to seven. Someone loses a testicle.

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Ten calls his wife. 14 texts his girlfriend. 15 sends a text to 14's

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girlfriend. The French hooker scores. Let's see how the All

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Blacks would score. (Indiscernible) French and New

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Zealand - not built the same. # Rugby racing

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# Rugby racing and beer # Ladies and gents, give it up for --

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Jed. It's lovely to have you back. Tell me, what is it about the All

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Blacks and France when they meet in the World Cup?

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Well, they're so predictable, the French. You can't trust them.

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Obviously, after the rainbow warrior incident here, we just look

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at them and feel creepy about them now. And they have been blowing up

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bombs in the South Pacific since the '50s, so I would think when it

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comes to New Zealand over France, we certainly don't see eye to eye.

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We intend to disagree -- agree to disagree. If you block - you should

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be able to blow up Paris. That's what I like about you - you're so

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PC. Are you slightly nervous about the game? Am I slightly nervous

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about the game? No. That's why I have started drinking so early in

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the morning these days. LAUGHTER

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Now, what about that extraordinary result that Ireland had against

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Australia? Yeah, it lifted everybody's souls and hearts here.

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There was just grins and smiling and hugs and kisses, and every

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Irishman's night was that night on Sunday night. It was great to see

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those Aussies packed up and sent home, and, you know, the way that

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Australia reacted was beautiful. We give ourselves a hard time after

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losing the World Cup. These gries lost one game in the pool stages

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and you would think that someone had bored a hole in their country

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and water was getting in. You are as hilarious as ever. Let's

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hear it for Jed Thian. APPLAUSE

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What a guy! Right. Tom and Josh, let's start this chat about

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Ireland-Australia. I was flicking through a couple of Sunday

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newspapers online earlier in Ireland. They're describing it as

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their greatest sporting triumph ever. That might be a little bit

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over the top. I think that you saw the best of Ireland against England

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in the Six Nations. They've got a mental toughness about them. They

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have a lot of guys who have been together for a long, long time. You

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have a core of a side. You have an Irish side that's won the Heineken

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Cup for years now. They have that ability to play under pressure. In

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the pre-World Cup games they were awful. They lost all four. They

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were awful and didn't play well in many of them either, so the fact

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they have actually stepped up and delivered against a side which we

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know their front five is questionable doesn't surprise me.

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It may - obviously, New Zealand is jumping through the roof about it,

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but it was well deserved. I hope Ireland is a representative of

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these shores... Kicks it wide open. Brilliant. The two that will be

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rubbing their hands together are Ireland and Wales. Psychologically

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Wales should qualify, touch wood. Touch wood, nice. And they'll find

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Ireland psychologically a lot easier to beat than Australia.

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players do that? When you're on the way to the World Cup final in 2003,

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do you think, if they finish top, we'll play those guys? Or did

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Woodward just say, play one sport at a time, that sporting cliche?

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When we knew we had France in the semi-final, I can assure there were

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some smiles going around the place. Of course you do. It's interesting

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that result, because if you were the French coach, talking about the

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France-New Zealand game, do they really want to win that game?

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That's the question. Guys, are you looking forward to it, France

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against the all-blacks? Go on. I watched France today. I was very

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impressed with them, again, playing wonderful rugby in very difficult

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conditions. There is something - they very rarely like touring, the

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French, by and large, but they love going to New Zealand for whatever

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reason. And they have had a good record there. They're one of the

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few teams that have ever won in New Zealand, but taking the point Josh

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was on about, I am not so sure this pool game is something they really

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want to do. I think they just - not so much throw it - throw it in so

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much that they don't really care about it, but they want to play

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them in the semis. I know. In the final. Final. It's not knock-out

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yet for them. True. They're both going to cruise through it. As Josh

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said, then if they go to the northern hemisphere side of the

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draw, we have all beaten each other - England, Ireland and France and

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Wales, they are going, tell you what, we got a great crack here,

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whereas the belief of me being looking to play one of the southern

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hemispheres - they're not sure. They don't have to worry about that

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confidence of playing as favourites. Familiarity. Yeah. They'll all be a

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threat. Everyone will think that they can get to the final - every

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one of the home nations - maybe not Scotland because they have to play

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New Zealand in the other part of the draw, a tough draw. Chaps, for

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the moment, thank you very much indeed. It's Namibia next. Here's

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Rick O'Shea with his guide on Namibia, an old Dutch-German colony,

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formerly known as south-west Africa, has a population of 1.8 million and

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a playing population of 5,800. Its famous sons include the sprinter

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Frankie Fredricks and the old black and amber boy Percy Montgomery. In

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1990, Namibia was granted independence of South Africa and

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played a two Test series against Wales, but because of the unique

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way in which the BBC is funded, I haven't come to Namibia to film

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this report. I have come to a mountain just outside Cardiff to

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meet a man that's played in all three tests that Wales have played

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against Namibia. Mike, lovely to see you up here. Thank you very

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much. You've got experience against Namibia, three Tests against

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Namibia. Three tests against Namibia, all way down in south-west

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Africa. Three out of three wins. That was enjoyable, but a long time

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ago. What were they like back then? Looking back - looking at them now,

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they're Africans. They have presence. Tell me - take us back

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into time. It was 1990, was it? Were they tasty affairs? Wasn't

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there a sending-off? Yes. I think at the time the yellow cards had

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just come out, and I'm not proud of it, but I think I was one of the

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first international player to ever receive a yellow card. I had a bit

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of a tangle with my opposite number. You know what it's like to play

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against sides that are deemed to be a lesser force. I mean, I'd hate to

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bring it up, but you were there in '91 when we lost to Samoa. Thank

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you, Rick. But it is... I know. Mentally, you've got to be in the

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right place. Going into the game against Namibia, can we stick with

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the teams that have done well so far? Have we got the depth or are

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Namibia maybe not the team to do that against? Not too many changes,

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but I think we've got to bring - we have two bigger games, more

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physical than this Namibia game. We have to make one or two changes,

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but we have to keep that... It's a difficult balance. It's a balance.

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Cards on the table, then - who is going do win? Wales definitely. May

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give a show-in, but Wales will be prepared and too strong for them up

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front, and I think the pace behind. They do the 80 minutes now. They

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used to start well for 60. As we saw in the last 20, we have seen

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them lose their way a bit. I think we have gotten over that for the

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first 20 minutes and can compete for the 80. That's how prepared we

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are. We go back into Africa. Namibia are up next. Bring it on.

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Rick O'Shea reporting from the great plains of north Cardiff. Now,

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with his look ahead to Wales V Namibia, here's our reporter.

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Looking at the next hurdle, I believe it's inevitable there will

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be changes for the next game. Key players need to be rested. There

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are lots of players that want to play the part. I believe they

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should be given that opportunity. This is the 15 I think Warren

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Gatland will announce later in the week. Let's look at the backs first,

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accepting, of course, they're free of injury. Byrne has to be tested,

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no point in taking him unless he plays. Hook at centre, I believe he

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can help Jones. The territorial Tavis Kno ylecomes in at nine.

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Let's look at the pack, very experienced. They're very athletic,

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need to get around the field a great deal - will create problems

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for us. Ryan Jones coming in off injury. He has a big part to play.

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Wish we had more carriers in the pack. That's a fundamental weakness

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I think, but still, an experienced pack that should do very well

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I suppose, Tom, there is a temptation, isn't there, for my

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coach - if you have the squad, use it? Yeah, I think they've got to. I

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think he's right, you have to rest your key players. Scott Williams

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should play. Jamie should probably have a rest. He's played

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brilliantly the last two games, Stephen Jones back fit. He needs a

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crack at ten, and Lee Byrne as well - Hook, we don't know his injury,

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how long he's going to be out. We need to start looking at fullback

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options, whether Halfpenny plays 15 or Byrne. It's interesting. In the

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pack as well I think maybe War Burton could do with a rest. He's

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played two very physical games, and Jones back fit. We know we need to

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see him back on the field, so plenty to do. It's a good game

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coming up, Namibia because they should easily win that, I think,

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and they can make a few changes to see what players' form is like. So

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if people come through that, then they have a selection of issues for

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Fiji. Jonathan, other teams have been tinkering with their squads.

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Is it time for Warren Gatland to do the same? I wouldn't. I would pick

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my strongest team. I think the work-up comes around every four

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years. We haven't played that well. We haven't worked the combinations

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out. Lee Halfpenny come on today. John Davis hasn't really performed.

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We haven't really built anything and gone through the phases, so

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really I think we haven't really clicked yet, so Namibia is a great

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opportunity to put all the best team in - of course, the injuries -

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the strongest available team, and then because, as Josh said, I think

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Fiji - the first 20 minutes against Africa they were very, very good.

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Once they went about 14 points behind, they were out of it, and

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South Africa ran away with it. Every time we tinker and make

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changes, we lose that kind of continuity, and we always struggle,

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and I don't think it's the time to struggle now. I think we build it.

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We really go out, smash Namibia, get confidence... Score points.

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Fiji away, then go to Ireland. That's my view, but people are

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different. If you're good enough, you play in the team. If you're not

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good enough, unfortunately, you might not get in the game - the

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World Cup. But that's sport. That's life. The only issue I have is Fiji

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is going to be so physical. That's why I think some of the key players

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need to be rested. Having said that Jonathan has a great point, but the

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thing is I suppose there are players in that squad, people like

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Jenkins and, as Tom says, Jones, who need game time. I disagree with

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what Jonathan is saying, but only - LAUGHTER

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I am a World Cup winner! I can understand the reasoning behind it,

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but let's not underestimate Namibia. I have respect for them because

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traditionally they used to be the old south-west Africa. During the

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time I was playing they were a lion's fixture. They were always in

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the semifinals of the Curry Cup. These guys will have the tradition

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and know the game. But they'll be more in the line of the South

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African type of play unlike the Fiji game that can be hard

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physically. We know how they play that. I think it's a great

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opportunity for the guys that have been training hard. I am not being

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sympathetic, saying play them. I don't want our main liners injured

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because Jamie Roberts has been bashing everybody for the last

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fortnight or so. I bet his body is crying out for a rest. One game a

0:38:540:39:04
0:39:040:39:06

week? Then we have the quarter- You do not want to go into the

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knockout stages of a World Cup still chopping and changing. That

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is why France have not succeeded over the last few years. They have

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made big changes. Granted, if you have injuries, you have to rest

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your props. There are a couple of key guys who are picking up niggles.

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Maybe leave those out. You are talking about defence today for

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Wales. They used to say that attack wins tickets, defence wins

0:39:420:39:48

championships. You do not want to tinker with the midfield. That is a

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no-brainer. You just want to get those combinations to give you

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confidence. They have not played a lot of rugby yet this year. If you

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pick up injuries, that is just the nature of it.

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Let's go to Lisa, who is with a massive rugby put -- van. He is the

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star of Gavin And Stacey, Steffan Rhodri. Did you get up and watch

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the game? I did. Before going to see my lad play, I watched it.

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you enjoy that more? Yeah, except they lost. Fingers crossed the rest

0:40:290:40:33

of the World Cup goes better. Butler is covering the rugby World

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Cup. He is on a road trip of New Zealand. Let's find out what he has

0:40:370:40:47
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seen and where he has been. This is New Plymouth. I came here

0:40:520:40:59

via wellington. And departures in the airport, I met the Welsh team.

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They were bruised, disappointed. There was Adam Jones, holding his

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lovely young baby. Jamie Roberts wondering down towards the plane.

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They were down. But there is a difference between disappointment

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and being beaten, and disappointment at not having beaten

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the world champions, if you see what I mean. Anyway, Wales have a

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steely determination about them. It was evident in the way they were

0:41:260:41:36
0:41:360:41:37

moving. You could see that everything was far from over.

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It is Sunday. This is Hamilton. It is very quiet, but the Welsh are on

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their way. This is Warren Gatland's home region, which should give

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Wales a bit of support. But I am saying this before the game starts.

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This is New Zealand's second team, Samoa. They think after the All

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Blacks, we will support Samoa. So there are dangerous signs there.

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But after Ireland yesterday at Eden Park, everything is now possible.

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Good luck. Come on, Wales! It is 9 o'clock at night. I am in Hamilton

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hotel. I am staying with Samoans, which is a bit awkward, because we

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beat them. Wales marched on in the World Cup and Warren Gatland's

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career is still on course. But that was very close. I thought at one

0:42:400:42:50
0:42:500:42:51

stage that we were not going to do it. I thought we did not be as good

0:42:510:42:54

a scrummage as we ought to have done. But as Warren Gatland said

0:42:550:43:02

afterwards, it was a day for the result and not the performance.

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Wales are still at the World Cup. Throughout the Rugby World Cup

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specials, we will be keeping a close eye on Russia, because one of

0:43:220:43:26

Scrum V's regular pundits, Kingsley Jones, is also the technical

0:43:260:43:36
0:43:360:43:37

director of Russian rugby, and he joins me now. Kingsley, good

0:43:370:43:42

evening. You must be proud of your team's performance, very close

0:43:420:43:49

against the Americans? Yeah, they tried hard to give everything. They

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improved in most areas defensively. But unfortunately, the lineout to

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let them down and we cough up the ball too many times at crucial

0:44:010:44:08

times. You have a big test now against Italy on Tuesday.

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Yeah, Italy made a 13 changes. And the Russians do not like being

0:44:130:44:23
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disrespected. So they want to try and prove themselves. What did you

0:44:230:44:29

make of Wales today? Did you see the game? Yeah, I watched it

0:44:290:44:34

yesterday afternoon. I felt that Wales' performance was fantastic. I

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thought the second half, the only negative was the injuries. There

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are a lot of people down here who did not expect that. They thought

0:44:440:44:49

Samoa were going to do it. To beat Samoa for the first time in a World

0:44:490:44:55

Cup, Gethin Jenkins coming back was obviously a factor. And Ireland

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versus Australia, maybe more Wales will make the first time since 1987.

0:44:590:45:09
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I have just been practising my At I could not hear you!

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brilliant. Thank you very much. Very nice to see you.

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That was well done and cheers in Russian, if you were wondering.

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Let's show you how the pools look in this year's Rugby World Cup.

0:45:260:45:36
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In ball a, Vincent grab a hat-trick Jonathan, I don't want to be a doom

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merchant, but if Dan Lydiate is out of the tournament and as Tom says,

0:46:140:46:24
0:46:240:46:28

Martyn Williams is injured, who goes out? You have got a few. But I

0:46:280:46:35

just hope that Ryan Jones is fit. It might give a bit more time then.

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What about James Hook? It is a difficult one. We don't know the

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injury. It looked bad. When I first saw it, I thought oh, my God, he is

0:46:470:46:51

gone. But we will have to wait and see. We could do with a good

0:46:510:46:55

performance against Namibia from Lee Byrne. But I thought Leigh

0:46:550:47:04

Halfpenny did very well. He got off the floor quick and adjusted his

0:47:040:47:09

head guard. That was great, he adjusted it and kept running.

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Namibia will be a good test. There was an interesting comment from

0:47:160:47:20

Jamie Roberts in a interview he did after today's game, where he said

0:47:200:47:24

it was not a champagne performance, but all that mattered was getting

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the win. They will take so much out of this victory today, because that

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was a tough game. Are as we have discussed, it was all fought at

0:47:320:47:37

close-quarters. Leigh Halfpenny was the only chance we had it in the

0:47:370:47:41

second half, and he took it brilliantly. He could have been

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left there. He did well to escape from that first tackle. It shows

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his prowess. It was never going to be that tricky sort of game,

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because they were waiting to size us up and smash us down. It will

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have given us tremendous confidence. Let's not be sorry to be seeing the

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same tale once again. When you have to win, knowing that if you don't,

0:48:050:48:10

you are going home, that takes a lot of pressure to live with. I

0:48:100:48:14

take the point that Josh says, if you want to win, that is what you

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have to learn to do. It will have taken Wales a giant step forward.

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Can Wales get beyond the quarter- finals? Absolutely. They will be

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pleased with the result. The key thing for Wales is, they lost a lot

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of ball in the breakdowns. And the injuries, that is key. Thank you

0:48:400:48:44

very much. Join me in thanking Jonathan Davies, Jonathan Edwards,

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