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Throughout these Rugby World Cup specials, Bruno Williams will be | 0:08:46 | 0:08:54 | |
analysing every Wales game for us. Last week, I mentioned that the | 0:08:54 | 0:09:02 | |
most important that was the scoreboard. Box ticked off. We won | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
their game. We beat one of the most aggressive rugby teams in the world, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
a team that beat Australia only a month ago. Let's look at why. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:20 | |
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Impressive statistics. Those are phenomenal figures. Lost possession | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
is the frustration for Warren Gatland. 29 times, not good enough. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
That has to be improved. I wish there was a stat for the pressure | 0:09:33 | 0:09:41 | |
the team was under. It was immense. So we have to say well done, lads. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Yes, very much so. Everyone in the club tonight would endorse those | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
words. But a contrasting performance to last week. It was. | 0:09:50 | 0:10:00 | |
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Before last week, their average performance against Samoa was like | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
that. A win was the most important thing. It is another box ticked. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Will the boys be concerned that there were a few errors? There were | 0:10:12 | 0:10:18 | |
signs of Wales of old, lots of penalties conceded. The set-piece | 0:10:18 | 0:10:27 | |
was not great. I really enjoyed it seeing Jamie playing very well. His | 0:10:27 | 0:10:37 | |
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depth was very good. It showed in his first touch of the ball. He is | 0:10:38 | 0:10:46 | |
not a small guy either. The breakdown was a bit of a mess. But | 0:10:46 | 0:10:53 | |
we won it. Took 70 minutes until my heart stopped beating so fast. But | 0:10:53 | 0:10:58 | |
it was good. John often, it was nail-biting stuff. What did you | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
make of Wales'' tactics? I felt they should have kicked a bit more. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
We had no field position. We could have worked them over on their | 0:11:10 | 0:11:20 | |
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fitness. That full-back had no intention of kicking. The chase was | 0:11:20 | 0:11:27 | |
not very good. There was a great kick into the left-hand corner. But | 0:11:27 | 0:11:32 | |
the chase was very poor. They were not going to go the length against | 0:11:32 | 0:11:40 | |
us. If you pay a -- play against the islanders, when they are in | 0:11:40 | 0:11:48 | |
your own 22, they go for a try. We were slightly naive. With James | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
Hook, I said last week that I do not like him playing full-back. We | 0:11:53 | 0:11:59 | |
need a balanced back three. Leigh Halfpenny added that balance. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Slightly disappointed with their tactics. We should have beaten | 0:12:04 | 0:12:12 | |
South Africa and could have beaten Samoa by more points. Gareth, Leigh | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Halfpenny made a significant difference. But the Samoans have | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
improved. But if there is one thing missing from that game, it is the | 0:12:20 | 0:12:27 | |
overall 80 minute fitness? They are plain a structured game, which is | 0:12:27 | 0:12:35 | |
alien in the South Pacific Basin. The Fijian game could be the one | 0:12:35 | 0:12:40 | |
that trips of up, because they do not play that lovely sort of rugby. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
I was surprised at how strutted their game was, as if they believed | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
they could wear us down. But there is a new found confidence in the | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
Welsh defence. We still make mistakes, but not half as much as | 0:12:53 | 0:13:02 | |
we have over the last few years. The boys looked very confident in | 0:13:02 | 0:13:11 | |
stopping them from attacking too deep or around the fringes. When | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
you have really got to win the match, that really can play a huge | 0:13:17 | 0:13:27 | |
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part. It is a test of character. Disappointing in many ways. They | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
really did not offer too much. I thought it was one-dimensional. If | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
the Welsh boys had believed, hey, let's move this a bit more, we | 0:13:45 | 0:13:51 | |
could have scored more points. Josh, I am not sure if you are a | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
fan of Twitter, but some of the Samoan fans have been moaning about | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
playing two games in a week. Is it right but they played midweek and | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
on Sunday? Her I am not a big fan of Twitter. Thank you for clearing | 0:14:03 | 0:14:13 | |
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that up! That is the reality of the tour. As a top-level sportsman, if | 0:14:17 | 0:14:23 | |
you start making excuses after the performance, regardless of the | 0:14:23 | 0:14:32 | |
details, you deal with the cards you are dealt. It will be | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
interesting to hear the reaction in the world audience. To be a real | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
world class team, you need to be able to be confident and win as | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
favourites. For me, there has always been something about the | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
Welsh team outside the Six Nations. When you play the South Africans | 0:14:51 | 0:14:58 | |
etc, you need to be up to go in and do it properly. Again South Africa, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:03 | |
the guys had nothing to lose. They played in liberator fashion and | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
through the ball away almost with a carelessness. But as soon as you | 0:15:07 | 0:15:17 | |
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think, I have to win this, that is when the shutters come down. There | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
are two different psyches. You plane not to lose, or you play to | 0:15:27 | 0:15:34 | |
win. That is very different. If you play to win, you go out there and | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
you are confident. If you play not to lose, you shut shop and you are | 0:15:38 | 0:15:45 | |
not confident enough to run that game. For let's go to Lisa. He is | 0:15:45 | 0:15:52 | |
in the club tonight? It is Wales and scullers full-back. How is the | 0:15:52 | 0:15:58 | |
recovery going? A had a successful operation after the game. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:06 | |
Everything is going well so far. When will you be able to start | 0:16:06 | 0:16:13 | |
training again properly? Middle of November, I can start walking and | 0:16:13 | 0:16:20 | |
jogging. Sir you cannot go on holiday and in the meantime? I am | 0:16:20 | 0:16:24 | |
hoping to go to Dubai in December. Fingers crossed! Were did you think | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
of the game today? It must be whole -- so hard for you at home, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
watching the boys. Wales will obviously be over the moon with the | 0:16:32 | 0:16:42 | |
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Thank you very much. England played this morning as well, and we have | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
had some tweets Row Josh. Lee Jones would like to know, do England have | 0:16:53 | 0:17:00 | |
enough creativity to go all the way? Do they need it is the answer. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
I would like to see the best rugby team win this tournament. Rugby | 0:17:05 | 0:17:11 | |
needs it at a global level. If England or Wales do not win it, I | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
would like to see New Zealand. The other day, South Africa were | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
clearly the second best side when they played against Wales. So to | 0:17:22 | 0:17:31 | |
answer that question, be they needed? Young's is the key to their | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
success. When he plays, he throws the game out of the window and | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
plays what is in front of him. These guys are so pre-planned and | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
contrived these days. All the topsides are. Everyone knows each | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
other's pattern inside out. It is that ability to play what is in | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
front of you and do what the defence is not expecting, and | 0:17:52 | 0:17:58 | |
youngs brings that enthusiasm. The key position to it is 12. We do not | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
have a great number of twelves for England. We did not take the most | 0:18:03 | 0:18:13 | |
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creative 12, Riki Flutey. England go into a final shock? I hope so, I | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
have money on it. While judges here, I want to ask him and all of you, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:26 | |
the nightclub incident has not had a great build-up. Will it affect | 0:18:26 | 0:18:35 | |
morale in the camp? I hope not. These things happen. Face it, we | 0:18:35 | 0:18:45 | |
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had a few incidents down here as well. We don't talk about them. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
Rugby players are rugby players. We are not angels. Clearly, there is a | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
responsibility. You are a professional athlete and you are | 0:18:57 | 0:19:02 | |
representing your country. But there is also a balance. John Owen | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
spot-on with the way he managed this. These are adults and they | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
have to make their own decisions. If they make silly decisions, they | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
will reap the consequences. You have to be mature. But it is a | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
mental way of switching off as well. You cannot control the reporting of | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
the story. His tweeting and Facebook and all that. The national | 0:19:24 | 0:19:31 | |
papers have picked on one individual. Has that been fared? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:40 | |
They picked on him for one reason. The Welsh players are hopefully | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
tucked up in bed now. But the pressure was mentioned. It is not | 0:19:44 | 0:19:50 | |
only playing the game. The build-up, of the preparation, the training. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
You have got the release, and there has to be a balance. Martin Johnson | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
has been brilliant. He said, we have had no complaints, and | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
everyone is happy, move on. they have got to write about rugby | 0:20:04 | 0:20:12 | |
for six weeks, every day. It must have been a godsend for them. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:18 | |
there something you want to confess? Feel free. We will rip up | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
the running order. Guys, thank you very much for now. More still to | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
come. We will catch up with Eddie Butler and his road trip of New | 0:20:26 | 0:20:32 | |
Zealand. I met a busload of Welsh supporters. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:39 | |
We spent eight hours together. Their driver had talked to them | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
non-stop about clematis and pies and ice-cream and the best thing | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
about anything in New Zealand. They all stopped here and bought | 0:20:47 | 0:20:54 | |
earplugs. More from Eddie and back to the Rugby World Cup in a moment | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
after we round up at the latest pro club action. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
After last week's tragedy at Gleision Colliery, the Rugby World | 0:21:02 | 0:21:12 | |
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came together to pay its respects to the miners and their families. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Two unbeaten sides met at Ravenhill on Friday, and it was the home side | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
who came out on top, thanks to these two tries for Center Darren | 0:21:26 | 0:21:36 | |
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Cave. Lovely potter Gilroy. -- ball to Gilroy. Ulster have the first | 0:21:37 | 0:21:47 | |
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try. Lovely ball by Spence. This is a cave macro again. Goes low, goes | 0:21:49 | 0:21:56 | |
early, slides to score. In Treviso, the us praise from behind to two | 0:21:56 | 0:22:06 | |
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Two tries either side of the break, however, saw the ospreys take the | 0:22:16 | 0:22:26 | |
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lead. Isaacs made the most of this chance. And Tom Smith powered over | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
after 42 minutes to make it three from three now for Scott Johnson's | 0:22:30 | 0:22:38 | |
side. The dragons were hoping for their first point of the season at | 0:22:38 | 0:22:44 | |
a revamped parade, and had a great start, Tom Riley scoring after just | 0:22:44 | 0:22:54 | |
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five minutes. But it was to be a close-fought encounter. Five | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
minutes later, Andrew Combes Perot I did his way to the line and the | 0:23:02 | 0:23:09 | |
dragon has got their win and moved off the bottom of the table. Last | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
week, the scarlet went down to Connaught and found Munster and | 0:23:14 | 0:23:21 | |
equally tough nut to crack on Saturday. A try it on the half-hour | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
extended Munster's lead. Replacement scrum half Duncan | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
Williams made the game safe. And the bonus point came after 74 | 0:23:31 | 0:23:41 | |
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You can see how the Blues get on next week on Scrum 5 Live on BBC 2 | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Wales at 7.00pm. Let's get a New Zealand perspective | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
of the tournament so far. Thanks. The result of the weekend has to be | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
Ireland managing to beat Australia. Surprisingly, the All Blacks | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
thrashed Japan. But next week they meet their World Cup nemesis, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
France. In a moment we're going to catch up with our New Zealand gu | 0:24:11 | 0:24:19 | |
rue, but first, let's enjoy his cartoon take on it. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:27 | |
# Rugby racing and beer # An international briefing on France, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:32 | |
a brief but pretty accurate history. These buggers have been up to all | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
sorts of things for quite awhile. A what are they into? Executions, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
perfume, snails and creme brulee. It's also worth noting style of | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
play - well, the - um, observe - middle of the track. Let's look at | 0:24:47 | 0:24:53 | |
what the French were doing, nine to ten. Ten was passed to 13, 13 to 15 | 0:24:53 | 0:25:00 | |
coming into the line, 15 to 14 back on the ankle, 14 to 11, 11 cuts 12, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:05 | |
12 behind the back pop pass to seven. Someone loses a testicle. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:11 | |
Ten calls his wife. 14 texts his girlfriend. 15 sends a text to 14's | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
girlfriend. The French hooker scores. Let's see how the All | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
Blacks would score. (Indiscernible) French and New | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Zealand - not built the same. # Rugby racing | 0:25:25 | 0:25:35 | |
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# Rugby racing and beer # Ladies and gents, give it up for -- | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Jed. It's lovely to have you back. Tell me, what is it about the All | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Blacks and France when they meet in the World Cup? | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
Well, they're so predictable, the French. You can't trust them. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
Obviously, after the rainbow warrior incident here, we just look | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
at them and feel creepy about them now. And they have been blowing up | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
bombs in the South Pacific since the '50s, so I would think when it | 0:25:59 | 0:26:05 | |
comes to New Zealand over France, we certainly don't see eye to eye. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:13 | |
We intend to disagree -- agree to disagree. If you block - you should | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
be able to blow up Paris. That's what I like about you - you're so | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
PC. Are you slightly nervous about the game? Am I slightly nervous | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
about the game? No. That's why I have started drinking so early in | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
the morning these days. LAUGHTER | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Now, what about that extraordinary result that Ireland had against | 0:26:30 | 0:26:35 | |
Australia? Yeah, it lifted everybody's souls and hearts here. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:42 | |
There was just grins and smiling and hugs and kisses, and every | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Irishman's night was that night on Sunday night. It was great to see | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
those Aussies packed up and sent home, and, you know, the way that | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
Australia reacted was beautiful. We give ourselves a hard time after | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
losing the World Cup. These gries lost one game in the pool stages | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
and you would think that someone had bored a hole in their country | 0:27:02 | 0:27:08 | |
and water was getting in. You are as hilarious as ever. Let's | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
hear it for Jed Thian. APPLAUSE | 0:27:13 | 0:27:19 | |
What a guy! Right. Tom and Josh, let's start this chat about | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
Ireland-Australia. I was flicking through a couple of Sunday | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
newspapers online earlier in Ireland. They're describing it as | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
their greatest sporting triumph ever. That might be a little bit | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
over the top. I think that you saw the best of Ireland against England | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
in the Six Nations. They've got a mental toughness about them. They | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
have a lot of guys who have been together for a long, long time. You | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
have a core of a side. You have an Irish side that's won the Heineken | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Cup for years now. They have that ability to play under pressure. In | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
the pre-World Cup games they were awful. They lost all four. They | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
were awful and didn't play well in many of them either, so the fact | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
they have actually stepped up and delivered against a side which we | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
know their front five is questionable doesn't surprise me. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
It may - obviously, New Zealand is jumping through the roof about it, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:19 | |
but it was well deserved. I hope Ireland is a representative of | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
these shores... Kicks it wide open. Brilliant. The two that will be | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
rubbing their hands together are Ireland and Wales. Psychologically | 0:28:26 | 0:28:34 | |
Wales should qualify, touch wood. Touch wood, nice. And they'll find | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Ireland psychologically a lot easier to beat than Australia. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
players do that? When you're on the way to the World Cup final in 2003, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
do you think, if they finish top, we'll play those guys? Or did | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
Woodward just say, play one sport at a time, that sporting cliche? | 0:28:50 | 0:28:55 | |
When we knew we had France in the semi-final, I can assure there were | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
some smiles going around the place. Of course you do. It's interesting | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
that result, because if you were the French coach, talking about the | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
France-New Zealand game, do they really want to win that game? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
That's the question. Guys, are you looking forward to it, France | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
against the all-blacks? Go on. I watched France today. I was very | 0:29:13 | 0:29:18 | |
impressed with them, again, playing wonderful rugby in very difficult | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
conditions. There is something - they very rarely like touring, the | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
French, by and large, but they love going to New Zealand for whatever | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
reason. And they have had a good record there. They're one of the | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
few teams that have ever won in New Zealand, but taking the point Josh | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
was on about, I am not so sure this pool game is something they really | 0:29:35 | 0:29:41 | |
want to do. I think they just - not so much throw it - throw it in so | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
much that they don't really care about it, but they want to play | 0:29:44 | 0:29:52 | |
them in the semis. I know. In the final. Final. It's not knock-out | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
yet for them. True. They're both going to cruise through it. As Josh | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
said, then if they go to the northern hemisphere side of the | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
draw, we have all beaten each other - England, Ireland and France and | 0:30:03 | 0:30:08 | |
Wales, they are going, tell you what, we got a great crack here, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
whereas the belief of me being looking to play one of the southern | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
hemispheres - they're not sure. They don't have to worry about that | 0:30:14 | 0:30:20 | |
confidence of playing as favourites. Familiarity. Yeah. They'll all be a | 0:30:20 | 0:30:24 | |
threat. Everyone will think that they can get to the final - every | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
one of the home nations - maybe not Scotland because they have to play | 0:30:27 | 0:30:34 | |
New Zealand in the other part of the draw, a tough draw. Chaps, for | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
the moment, thank you very much indeed. It's Namibia next. Here's | 0:30:37 | 0:30:47 | |
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Rick O'Shea with his guide on Namibia, an old Dutch-German colony, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:04 | |
formerly known as south-west Africa, has a population of 1.8 million and | 0:31:04 | 0:31:12 | |
a playing population of 5,800. Its famous sons include the sprinter | 0:31:12 | 0:31:18 | |
Frankie Fredricks and the old black and amber boy Percy Montgomery. In | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
1990, Namibia was granted independence of South Africa and | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
played a two Test series against Wales, but because of the unique | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
way in which the BBC is funded, I haven't come to Namibia to film | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
this report. I have come to a mountain just outside Cardiff to | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
meet a man that's played in all three tests that Wales have played | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
against Namibia. Mike, lovely to see you up here. Thank you very | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
much. You've got experience against Namibia, three Tests against | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
Namibia. Three tests against Namibia, all way down in south-west | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
Africa. Three out of three wins. That was enjoyable, but a long time | 0:31:59 | 0:32:08 | |
ago. What were they like back then? Looking back - looking at them now, | 0:32:08 | 0:32:16 | |
they're Africans. They have presence. Tell me - take us back | 0:32:16 | 0:32:21 | |
into time. It was 1990, was it? Were they tasty affairs? Wasn't | 0:32:21 | 0:32:26 | |
there a sending-off? Yes. I think at the time the yellow cards had | 0:32:26 | 0:32:31 | |
just come out, and I'm not proud of it, but I think I was one of the | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
first international player to ever receive a yellow card. I had a bit | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
of a tangle with my opposite number. You know what it's like to play | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
against sides that are deemed to be a lesser force. I mean, I'd hate to | 0:32:42 | 0:32:48 | |
bring it up, but you were there in '91 when we lost to Samoa. Thank | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
you, Rick. But it is... I know. Mentally, you've got to be in the | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
right place. Going into the game against Namibia, can we stick with | 0:32:56 | 0:33:03 | |
the teams that have done well so far? Have we got the depth or are | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Namibia maybe not the team to do that against? Not too many changes, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:16 | |
but I think we've got to bring - we have two bigger games, more | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
physical than this Namibia game. We have to make one or two changes, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
but we have to keep that... It's a difficult balance. It's a balance. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:30 | |
Cards on the table, then - who is going do win? Wales definitely. May | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
give a show-in, but Wales will be prepared and too strong for them up | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
front, and I think the pace behind. They do the 80 minutes now. They | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
used to start well for 60. As we saw in the last 20, we have seen | 0:33:44 | 0:33:49 | |
them lose their way a bit. I think we have gotten over that for the | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
first 20 minutes and can compete for the 80. That's how prepared we | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
are. We go back into Africa. Namibia are up next. Bring it on. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Rick O'Shea reporting from the great plains of north Cardiff. Now, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:09 | |
with his look ahead to Wales V Namibia, here's our reporter. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
Looking at the next hurdle, I believe it's inevitable there will | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
be changes for the next game. Key players need to be rested. There | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
are lots of players that want to play the part. I believe they | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
should be given that opportunity. This is the 15 I think Warren | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
Gatland will announce later in the week. Let's look at the backs first, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:31 | |
accepting, of course, they're free of injury. Byrne has to be tested, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:38 | |
no point in taking him unless he plays. Hook at centre, I believe he | 0:34:38 | 0:34:48 | |
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can help Jones. The territorial Tavis Kno ylecomes in at nine. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
Let's look at the pack, very experienced. They're very athletic, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:05 | |
need to get around the field a great deal - will create problems | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
for us. Ryan Jones coming in off injury. He has a big part to play. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Wish we had more carriers in the pack. That's a fundamental weakness | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
I think, but still, an experienced pack that should do very well | 0:35:16 | 0:35:23 | |
I suppose, Tom, there is a temptation, isn't there, for my | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
coach - if you have the squad, use it? Yeah, I think they've got to. I | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
think he's right, you have to rest your key players. Scott Williams | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
should play. Jamie should probably have a rest. He's played | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
brilliantly the last two games, Stephen Jones back fit. He needs a | 0:35:38 | 0:35:43 | |
crack at ten, and Lee Byrne as well - Hook, we don't know his injury, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
how long he's going to be out. We need to start looking at fullback | 0:35:47 | 0:35:52 | |
options, whether Halfpenny plays 15 or Byrne. It's interesting. In the | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
pack as well I think maybe War Burton could do with a rest. He's | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
played two very physical games, and Jones back fit. We know we need to | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
see him back on the field, so plenty to do. It's a good game | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
coming up, Namibia because they should easily win that, I think, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
and they can make a few changes to see what players' form is like. So | 0:36:12 | 0:36:17 | |
if people come through that, then they have a selection of issues for | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
Fiji. Jonathan, other teams have been tinkering with their squads. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Is it time for Warren Gatland to do the same? I wouldn't. I would pick | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
my strongest team. I think the work-up comes around every four | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
years. We haven't played that well. We haven't worked the combinations | 0:36:32 | 0:36:38 | |
out. Lee Halfpenny come on today. John Davis hasn't really performed. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
We haven't really built anything and gone through the phases, so | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
really I think we haven't really clicked yet, so Namibia is a great | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
opportunity to put all the best team in - of course, the injuries - | 0:36:51 | 0:36:56 | |
the strongest available team, and then because, as Josh said, I think | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Fiji - the first 20 minutes against Africa they were very, very good. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:05 | |
Once they went about 14 points behind, they were out of it, and | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
South Africa ran away with it. Every time we tinker and make | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
changes, we lose that kind of continuity, and we always struggle, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
and I don't think it's the time to struggle now. I think we build it. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
We really go out, smash Namibia, get confidence... Score points. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Fiji away, then go to Ireland. That's my view, but people are | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
different. If you're good enough, you play in the team. If you're not | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
good enough, unfortunately, you might not get in the game - the | 0:37:31 | 0:37:36 | |
World Cup. But that's sport. That's life. The only issue I have is Fiji | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
is going to be so physical. That's why I think some of the key players | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
need to be rested. Having said that Jonathan has a great point, but the | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
thing is I suppose there are players in that squad, people like | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
Jenkins and, as Tom says, Jones, who need game time. I disagree with | 0:37:53 | 0:37:59 | |
what Jonathan is saying, but only - LAUGHTER | 0:37:59 | 0:38:03 | |
I am a World Cup winner! I can understand the reasoning behind it, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:08 | |
but let's not underestimate Namibia. I have respect for them because | 0:38:08 | 0:38:13 | |
traditionally they used to be the old south-west Africa. During the | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
time I was playing they were a lion's fixture. They were always in | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
the semifinals of the Curry Cup. These guys will have the tradition | 0:38:21 | 0:38:26 | |
and know the game. But they'll be more in the line of the South | 0:38:26 | 0:38:32 | |
African type of play unlike the Fiji game that can be hard | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
physically. We know how they play that. I think it's a great | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
opportunity for the guys that have been training hard. I am not being | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
sympathetic, saying play them. I don't want our main liners injured | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
because Jamie Roberts has been bashing everybody for the last | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
fortnight or so. I bet his body is crying out for a rest. One game a | 0:38:54 | 0:39:04 | |
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week? Then we have the quarter- You do not want to go into the | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
knockout stages of a World Cup still chopping and changing. That | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
is why France have not succeeded over the last few years. They have | 0:39:13 | 0:39:18 | |
made big changes. Granted, if you have injuries, you have to rest | 0:39:18 | 0:39:25 | |
your props. There are a couple of key guys who are picking up niggles. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
Maybe leave those out. You are talking about defence today for | 0:39:29 | 0:39:39 | |
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Wales. They used to say that attack wins tickets, defence wins | 0:39:42 | 0:39:48 | |
championships. You do not want to tinker with the midfield. That is a | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
no-brainer. You just want to get those combinations to give you | 0:39:52 | 0:39:59 | |
confidence. They have not played a lot of rugby yet this year. If you | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
pick up injuries, that is just the nature of it. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:09 | |
Let's go to Lisa, who is with a massive rugby put -- van. He is the | 0:40:09 | 0:40:14 | |
star of Gavin And Stacey, Steffan Rhodri. Did you get up and watch | 0:40:14 | 0:40:22 | |
the game? I did. Before going to see my lad play, I watched it. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:29 | |
you enjoy that more? Yeah, except they lost. Fingers crossed the rest | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
of the World Cup goes better. Butler is covering the rugby World | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
Cup. He is on a road trip of New Zealand. Let's find out what he has | 0:40:37 | 0:40:47 | |
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seen and where he has been. This is New Plymouth. I came here | 0:40:52 | 0:40:59 | |
via wellington. And departures in the airport, I met the Welsh team. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
They were bruised, disappointed. There was Adam Jones, holding his | 0:41:03 | 0:41:08 | |
lovely young baby. Jamie Roberts wondering down towards the plane. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:12 | |
They were down. But there is a difference between disappointment | 0:41:12 | 0:41:17 | |
and being beaten, and disappointment at not having beaten | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
the world champions, if you see what I mean. Anyway, Wales have a | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
steely determination about them. It was evident in the way they were | 0:41:26 | 0:41:36 | |
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moving. You could see that everything was far from over. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:43 | |
It is Sunday. This is Hamilton. It is very quiet, but the Welsh are on | 0:41:43 | 0:41:48 | |
their way. This is Warren Gatland's home region, which should give | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
Wales a bit of support. But I am saying this before the game starts. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
This is New Zealand's second team, Samoa. They think after the All | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
Blacks, we will support Samoa. So there are dangerous signs there. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
But after Ireland yesterday at Eden Park, everything is now possible. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:17 | |
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Good luck. Come on, Wales! It is 9 o'clock at night. I am in Hamilton | 0:42:22 | 0:42:28 | |
hotel. I am staying with Samoans, which is a bit awkward, because we | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
beat them. Wales marched on in the World Cup and Warren Gatland's | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
career is still on course. But that was very close. I thought at one | 0:42:40 | 0:42:50 | |
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stage that we were not going to do it. I thought we did not be as good | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
a scrummage as we ought to have done. But as Warren Gatland said | 0:42:55 | 0:43:02 | |
afterwards, it was a day for the result and not the performance. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:12 | |
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Wales are still at the World Cup. Throughout the Rugby World Cup | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
specials, we will be keeping a close eye on Russia, because one of | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
Scrum V's regular pundits, Kingsley Jones, is also the technical | 0:43:26 | 0:43:36 | |
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director of Russian rugby, and he joins me now. Kingsley, good | 0:43:37 | 0:43:42 | |
evening. You must be proud of your team's performance, very close | 0:43:42 | 0:43:49 | |
against the Americans? Yeah, they tried hard to give everything. They | 0:43:49 | 0:43:57 | |
improved in most areas defensively. But unfortunately, the lineout to | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
let them down and we cough up the ball too many times at crucial | 0:44:01 | 0:44:08 | |
times. You have a big test now against Italy on Tuesday. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:13 | |
Yeah, Italy made a 13 changes. And the Russians do not like being | 0:44:13 | 0:44:23 | |
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disrespected. So they want to try and prove themselves. What did you | 0:44:23 | 0:44:29 | |
make of Wales today? Did you see the game? Yeah, I watched it | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
yesterday afternoon. I felt that Wales' performance was fantastic. I | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
thought the second half, the only negative was the injuries. There | 0:44:39 | 0:44:44 | |
are a lot of people down here who did not expect that. They thought | 0:44:44 | 0:44:49 | |
Samoa were going to do it. To beat Samoa for the first time in a World | 0:44:49 | 0:44:55 | |
Cup, Gethin Jenkins coming back was obviously a factor. And Ireland | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
versus Australia, maybe more Wales will make the first time since 1987. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:09 | |
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I have just been practising my At I could not hear you! | 0:45:11 | 0:45:19 | |
brilliant. Thank you very much. Very nice to see you. | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
That was well done and cheers in Russian, if you were wondering. | 0:45:22 | 0:45:26 | |
Let's show you how the pools look in this year's Rugby World Cup. | 0:45:26 | 0:45:36 | |
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In ball a, Vincent grab a hat-trick Jonathan, I don't want to be a doom | 0:46:10 | 0:46:14 | |
merchant, but if Dan Lydiate is out of the tournament and as Tom says, | 0:46:14 | 0:46:24 | |
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Martyn Williams is injured, who goes out? You have got a few. But I | 0:46:28 | 0:46:35 | |
just hope that Ryan Jones is fit. It might give a bit more time then. | 0:46:35 | 0:46:41 | |
What about James Hook? It is a difficult one. We don't know the | 0:46:41 | 0:46:47 | |
injury. It looked bad. When I first saw it, I thought oh, my God, he is | 0:46:47 | 0:46:51 | |
gone. But we will have to wait and see. We could do with a good | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
performance against Namibia from Lee Byrne. But I thought Leigh | 0:46:55 | 0:47:04 | |
Halfpenny did very well. He got off the floor quick and adjusted his | 0:47:04 | 0:47:09 | |
head guard. That was great, he adjusted it and kept running. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:16 | |
Namibia will be a good test. There was an interesting comment from | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
Jamie Roberts in a interview he did after today's game, where he said | 0:47:20 | 0:47:24 | |
it was not a champagne performance, but all that mattered was getting | 0:47:24 | 0:47:28 | |
the win. They will take so much out of this victory today, because that | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
was a tough game. Are as we have discussed, it was all fought at | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
close-quarters. Leigh Halfpenny was the only chance we had it in the | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
second half, and he took it brilliantly. He could have been | 0:47:41 | 0:47:45 | |
left there. He did well to escape from that first tackle. It shows | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
his prowess. It was never going to be that tricky sort of game, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:55 | |
because they were waiting to size us up and smash us down. It will | 0:47:55 | 0:48:01 | |
have given us tremendous confidence. Let's not be sorry to be seeing the | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
same tale once again. When you have to win, knowing that if you don't, | 0:48:05 | 0:48:10 | |
you are going home, that takes a lot of pressure to live with. I | 0:48:10 | 0:48:14 | |
take the point that Josh says, if you want to win, that is what you | 0:48:14 | 0:48:19 | |
have to learn to do. It will have taken Wales a giant step forward. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:25 | |
Can Wales get beyond the quarter- finals? Absolutely. They will be | 0:48:25 | 0:48:34 | |
pleased with the result. The key thing for Wales is, they lost a lot | 0:48:34 | 0:48:39 | |
of ball in the breakdowns. And the injuries, that is key. Thank you | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
very much. Join me in thanking Jonathan Davies, Jonathan Edwards, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:49 |