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It has been two halves for our regions, two defeats and no points

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on Friday, Saturday and two V ctor Ruiz, two Welsh teams in the top

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four. Rob Howley speaks for the first time since being appointed.

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Excited, proud, look forward to the next ten months. Scott Williams gets

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more than he bargained for. What is going wrong with the Scarlets this

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season? Good evening, welcome to the programme. Plenty to get through, as

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always. We will do so in the company Jonathan Davies and Phil Davies. We

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will find out what happened when Pontypridd and Merthyr locked horns.

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We will start in the 12, when Ospreys took their unbeaten record

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to Dublin. Alun Wyn Jones became the third

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player to reach 200 appearances for the Ospreys. Rhys Webb and Dan

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Biggar returned at half-backs. Sam Davies moving to full-back. Jonny

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Sexton made his first appearance of the season for Leinster. He

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steps away from Justin Tipuric. Eased back by the Ospreys. That

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looks good. Easy finish. Another solid scrum from Leinster, going

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forward. Jamie Heaslip very much in control. Keith said underneath his

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feet. There goes another try given against the Ospreys. Rhys Webb

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limping on the right-hand side. They come back in that direction. Jonny

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Sexton. Try number three on the stroke of half-time. Leinster are

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cruising in the first half. Really on the back foot. Fitting the

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gap well. Steps, and the man who got the first try gets the fourth. All

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going horribly wrong for the Ospreys.

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Straight through the middle. There is Rhys Webb. Would you believe it?

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The man he can sniff out tries from anywhere, looking up to see where

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the line is, in doing so, dropping the ball. It has to go wide. Round

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the back from Dan Biggar. Then John rices telemarketer races to the

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corner, and after much perseverance, the Ospreys get their first try. Not

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finished yet. -- John races to the corner. Delayed pass, well worked

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try for David Howells. -- Davies, they get the third try.

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Ultimately we would like to perform better than we did, particularly the

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first hour. Ultimately not good enough. On reflection we got what we

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deserved, which is nothing. A blunt an honest assessment, the Ospreys

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bubble bursting after the first three weeks. Credit to Leinster, the

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pace and ferocity they launched himself into contact, something to

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behold. The forwards were outstanding, particularly the first

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half. Pretty relentless. The ball carrying, particularly early on,

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outstanding. What impressed me, picking and going from the ruck.

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Attacking the first and second offenders. You highlight Justin

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Tipuric, Alun Wyn Jones. This part impressed me, with Healy. Attacking

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the first and second offender, attacking the third. One on one

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against James King, the power getting them over. Great line-out

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left, although the Ospreys don't compete in the 22. Jamie Heaslip,

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number eight, the Leinster title end, they worked their socks off to

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get the drive going forward. They get the spines in there, pretty

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relentless. Sapping the energy of the Ospreys' forwards. Dominating

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that area, going towards the line. As I said at the beginning, very

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relentless, very controlled. They were superb or leaving. You see

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where a lot of the action took place, they gave away penalties in

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the first, Alun Wyn Jones saying the discipline was not good enough. Some

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of that was the pressure of the Leinster Ford

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-- front five. They gave the platform for Jonny Sexton to take

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over, the variety in his game, brilliant. The very blustery

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evening, you have to be assured of your kicking. Did not go too far,

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just putting it into the stands. Very good position. Distribution

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good. Taking the borderline. Feeding any of the forwards. When it was

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slow ball, they just turned up, kept the pressure on. The Ospreys keeping

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in the game. Orchestrating everything. Picking out one of the

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forwards. Very simple try. Towards the end of the first half,

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possession they had, look where they are attacking from. Putting them in

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this position. Easy try. Very solid performance from Leinster, taking

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the game to the Ospreys. The front five laying the platform. They were

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convincing winners. Jonny Sexton putting his name forward for the

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Lions. Much was made about the selection from the Ospreys. Dan

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Biggar coming back in, Sam Davies shifted to 15, not a specialist. Was

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that the wrong decision? The coach was honest about his assessment of

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the Ospreys. They have both been playing extremely well. Dan Evans,

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do you drop him, Sam Davies not playing there. If you are playing

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well, the systems are going well, looking good attacking wise. You

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pick Sam Davies at ten, maybe bringing down on. Selection will be

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crucial in the next games. You pick the player who deserves to be

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picked. On form, Davies and Evans were the key players. Did not make

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any difference on Friday night. They were totally outplayed upfront. If

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you put anyone at ten, would not have made a difference. We will find

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out how they got on against the defending champions, Connacht,

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before that Scott Williams got more than he bargained for in an

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interview this week. Who inspired you to play rugby? My

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parents, my father played rugby. Going up, watching him play, always

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wanted to play. Apart from you is the best player at the Scarlets?

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John Barclay, James Davis, even though if he's watching this, he

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will love the fact I said his name. If you could change one rule in

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Rugby, what would you change? No scrums. Get rid of the scrums. Who

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has the best singing voice at the Scarlets? Ken Owens, always singing.

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Who is the drama queen at the Scarlets? Jake Ball, Samson Lee. All

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the drama queens. What is going wrong with the Scarlets this season?

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The team is 25 tackles against Ulster, do you need new tackle

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backs? I think so, you are right. Can you help me with my homework,

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please? Are you going to sing with me? Go

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on, you start. And Scott started on the bench for

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the Scarlets, who made one change upfront. Aaron Schindler returning a

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blindside flanker. Liam Williams continuing on the wing. Connacht

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made six changes in the team that lost in the last match before it was

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abandoned. Solid scrum. Good tackle from them.

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Great try from a Luke -- Aluko. The ball getting out

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there, lovely break by Jake Cingular, one of few players getting

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forward for the Scarlets. Jones. The referee says a Connacht player has

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been pushed into a wide ball. Excellent play from John Davies.

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Liam Williams, what a try this is. Emre -- great hands from John

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Davies. Just what the crowd wanted, what the Scarlets needed. Is this

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the start of a comeback? The ball has gone down, Williams. He

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is away. Good seats from the winger. Slotting into the full-back role. I

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just want to check the grounding. Nothing wrong with that. I can award

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this right? Ken Owens, right beneath the shadow of the posts. Wider pass.

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Sensible play, drop goal. Has it gone over? The referee's arm has

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gone up. The Scarlets note it has. We had more territory in the second

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half, making sure we stayed there and finish them off. Pleasingly

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could do that, but still too many mistakes, missing touch. Shots at

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goal, we left a lot of points out there tonight. Conditions conspiring

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to make it and uninspiring spectacle. The Scarlets when care,

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off the mark. They have made no secret they want to play a quick

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paced, up-tempo game. Sometimes you have to put the brakes on. They're

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very lateral, want to play an expansive game, but you have to earn

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the right to go forward. I don't think they are doing that and not.

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Maybe placement for Ben Morgan. They pressurised, should have had nine

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points. Missing three kicks at goal. Nine points in those conditions

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would have been great. We saw some mistakes. The restart, going long.

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Also a kickable penalty. Because they have missed three kicks. They

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go along again. Mistake after mistake. In these conditions, you

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don't have to run. Shovelling bad ball on. Under pressure, Connacht

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for they score the try after the pressure from the Scarlets. They

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have to learn to be patient, kicks slower ball. Turn the pressure,

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again they go wide. The ball gets to Jake Schindler, he is over the gain

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line. They go wide, setting up a ruck in midfield. A little bit slow,

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little bit deep. Again brilliant skill, brilliant passing. Brilliant

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pass by Jonathan Davies. Easy things for Liam Williams. After this, they

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thought, hang on. A point behind. Going in front. They don't set it

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up. Old head, young shoulders, knocking it over. They had to score

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twice, with five minutes left. Good take by the scrum-half. Just get

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down there, restart. Play the final whistle, out you go. They have to

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learn play what's in front of them. Game management is so crucial. We

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applaud them, going wide. You cannot shovel bad ball on. Defences are so

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good. They have to be patient. We saw them tightening things up to

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close the game out. One other thing that will please the coaching team,

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how the line-out functioned. Disrupting Connacht at will. A real

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point of contention. Disrupting the opposition. Jake Ball, they are all

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highlighted there. Chasing forward, the system is a zonal system. Jake

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Ball attacks, gets up at the front. Bodies in the air, putting pressure.

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They get the takeover. Great reactions. They made a mess of the

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Connacht line-out. When you are trying to simplify things as a

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coach, get a victory, great analysis work by the forwards. Great

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disruptive element of the game, making it difficult for Connacht to

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clear their lines. Get good quality ball in attack. They should have won

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that by 15 plus. Just too many mistakes. They are off the mark,

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they have a win. Another two tries from Liam Williams, they will be

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determined to hold on to him. Let's move to the Premiership, the tie of

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the round, Pontypridd against Merthyr. A little bit more spicy by

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the presence of del McIntosh and Lee Jarvis, the Merthyr coaching staff.

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Here we are, what are your thoughts on this? Fantastic on the grass is

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very green. Brilliant. Let's hope this afternoon it will be conducive

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to good rugby. How emotional is this occasion to date? Yesterday the

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first time I had seen it complete. The boys working. I had a few tears.

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A lot of people don't realise, I had to adapt to the muddy pitch. I liked

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a goose step. Great service. We can look forward to a running game. What

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do you reckon? They have done a good job.

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This is the one, he being made. Brand-new 3G pitch for a blood and

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thunder Welsh derby. The Valley commandos against the iron men. The

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only thing missing will be. We were not disappointed, it produced a

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5-star match. Merthyr powering into a 14-0 lead, two tries in the first

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quarter. This one from the outstanding loosehead, James Howell.

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If the iron men have the power, Pontypridd at the panache. Hitting

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back with two superb tries. Both from the old warhorse, Ceri Sweeney.

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14-13. Great contest, great derby. Still in the balance. Early in the

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second half, Rhys Williams and Alex Webber exchanged tries. Eventually

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the iron men took intro. Taking the road to the line for the bonus

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point. Late on, the loosehead again showing how to do it. Running like a

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rhino to send the winger whizzing over to top off a thrilling victory

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for Merthyr. How pleasing was the wind? Great. A battle of the

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valleys, to come here, not many sides have won this season. Over the

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last ten years, to get a victory, very pleasing. Fantastic valleys

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rugby occasion here. Merthyr fans will be celebrating long into the

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night. Here is a round-up of the rest of the Premiership.

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Another week, another bonus point for the wizards, seven tries, top of

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the table. 19 points from a possible 20. Easy wind? It was anything but.

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The fightback meaning it was neck and neck at one point. 26-25. They

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ran in again. Despite the challenge, champions ever fail, they are not

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letting go of their title easily. The steelmen capitalising, with the

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ravens reduced to 30 men at one stage. Four second-half tries

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ensuring the bonus point. Seven tries for Crosskeys, as Swansea

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continue to struggle in the Premiership. They lost the first two

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games of the season, now hitting some form. Two bonus point wins in a

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couple of weeks. Swansea managed a mini revival, could not catch the

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home side. Skipper Scott Matthews bagging a hat-trick. Life on the

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road is pretty good, they remain unbeaten. Tom Hughes scoring. The

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rest of the points coming from a try, penalty and two conversions.

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Quinn 's managing two tries during the 80 minutes. With three tries in

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the first 15 minutes, they were thinking they were heading for a

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comfortable win. Never pays to write off the Welsh All Blacks. They

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pushed them all the way. Ryan Thomas freeing the winger for the first

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try. Nerve wracking watch for all involved. The home side clinching

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victory in the final seconds. Cardiff went into this game having

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won both of their home fixtures. Their opponents had lost both of

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their away ties by narrow margins. This time the visitors came out on

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top in a close-run fixture. Nip and tuck all the way. Five yellow cards,

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three tries apiece. Jack Maynard kicking 13 points. In this

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afternoon's match, Newport securing their first win of the season. No

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change at the top. Beyond a dream start for Mark Jones,

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head coach of Scrum -- RGC. It will be a road trip for those fans

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heading north. Rick has been on the road, heading to a place that will

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commemorate a particular the poignant anniversary.

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As we watched the use of this rugby club playing on grave field, almost

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impossible to imagine the horrors of the events that unfolded on October

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the 21st, 1966. On the morning that a waste tip slid down a mountainside

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into the mining village of Aberfan. Claiming the lives of 144 people.

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Including 116 children from the primary school. The club secretary

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was a pupil at the school that day. We heard a terrible noise like jet

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taking off. Everything started shaking and vibrating. Plaster and

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water coming off the walls and the ceiling, the teacher came in from a

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told us to get under the desks. All of a sudden, we saw the caretaker at

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the window for breaking the window, opening the window, begging us the

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climax, using the desks as a makeshift ladder. We climbed out,

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ran home. My mother said, what are you doing home? All I can say, I

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don't know, the school is falling down. You played a bit yourself. Now

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transferring into management of the game. Things going well? Not too

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bad, we have a section giving strength to strength, three or four

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teams. Under 16 side. Youth rugby this afternoon. Two senior teams at

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2:30 p.m.. Not doing too bad. This club did not exist 20 years ago, how

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did it come about? At the turn-of-the-century, 2000, there

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were two clubs, both forming in the 1970s. For over 30 years there was a

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healthy rivalry between the two villages, in the 90s, both sides

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started to struggle. The sensible way was to try and do something

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together to keep the rugby going. At the start, archenemies. It all came

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together. As the years went on, we were the first true region. Sounds

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like you invented regional rugby? We were there first. It is the merger

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of two teams who were massive rivals? Could you imagine a time

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would come? Never mind what happens, that will never take place. We

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started a youth side in the second year, under 15, under 16. The minis

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from eight up. It is up to develop those

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players and keep them. At the minute the Welsh football scene is very

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much on the up. There is a football pitch taking over the team. It is a

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bit narrow for rugby. Could do with turning around. We are looking to

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get a 3G pitch. Maybe Merthyr can hand it to us. I would think you are

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feeling quite comfortable about the future of this club. Looking to

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build, three teams out. Three or four games to morrow with the minis

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and juniors, looking good. -- tomorrow. There will be a series of

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special programmes across BBC Wales can

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-- commemorating that disaster. And the victims. Amid the furore around

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Warren Gatland's appointment as coach of the lines. You may have

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missed the new head coach of Wales. He gave his first interview on

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Friday. You are Head Coach, as opposed to interim coach last time.

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How significant is that? I see it as interim head coach. Warren Gatland

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coming back in 12 months. Certainly a different feel about it now.

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Warren Gatland has said he's going until 2019. It is an opportunity,

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I'm very proud. I know we have a really good coaching team. Delighted

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to bring Matt on from the Cardiff Blues. A left-field appointment to

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many. Not really on the radar at Bristol. He has been at the Blues

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since the start of this season. What told you he was the right guy? Ends

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July, when we came back from New Zealand, between the regions, and

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the national setup, there has been a lot of exchange of information. Part

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of that meeting up with all of the attacking coaches. I met Matt from

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that first official meeting, I watched with interest, the Cardiff

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Blues. It is a gut feeling. Left-field choice. Personally I

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think it is the right choice for the right time. Are you concerned it may

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be seen as a kick in the teeth for Welsh coaches, who have been in the

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system for a while? I did not. To be honest, you pick the personnel which

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is right for the right time. He seems a very astute and tactical

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coach. I like his attention to detail. We have the right person,

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I'm looking forward to working with him. One thing you will have to work

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with is the senior player selection policy. We have seen the list of

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seven players, Warren Gatland's law. You can call it that. How do you

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feel it has been imposed at the time you have taken over? I'm quite

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comfortable. We have a huge responsibility as Welsh coaches, the

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Welsh Rugby union. Looking after the succession plan. When you look at

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the Sam Davies, Keegan Giles, we want those players who stay in

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Wales. A senior bunch of players have made a decision to stay in

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Wales, benefiting from the number of games, the medical, the analysis.

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Huge incentives to stay in Wales. Some players making a decision,

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selfish decision for them, to go away, making that decision, knowing

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about this for a period of time. I am comfortable, looking forward to

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the challenges. Selection, for the next four, five games. You won't

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have to make any dramatic emissions, looking at the seven players, the

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amount of wild cards at your disposal, you can manoeuvre to pick

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the players you want? It comes down to performance, that

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is the bottom line. And to what extent will be see a different

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looking Wales in terms of style and personnel given that Warren Gatland

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will not have an input in this period? This was discussed backing

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June, July and August regarding the style of play and the exposure of

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our game out in New Zealand in particular. They have certainly got

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the right model in New Zealand in terms of the ability of their front

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five to have a high skill level. It is something we are very mindful of.

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It is work in progress and we have exchanged a lot of information with

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the regions, a two-way process, and that will help us going into the

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autumn series in terms of style of play but also the key in the next

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ten months is to win and be successful on the international

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field. Lots of interesting stuff to come out of that chat with Rob. And

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we ended on the style of play, the abolition of style, and didn't we

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see a change in New Zealand? If they are to continue to evolve it to

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change the personnel, I asked. Do they? I think it looks relaxed. More

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than four years ago, he has got the experience. But I think it is a bit

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of a grenade for him. Expectation will be high because Australia are

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going well. We would expect to beat Argentina, Japan. Baby three out of

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four. That is the expectation aspect. Will they change style? They

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said they are evolving, I can't see much of that happening. They played

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wide against easier and, and it seems that when they lose the ball

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New Zealand score. They have to work on that. The question is, if the

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change it, do they then change the personnel, or do they think the

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current players can change their style? That is the question. It is

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very difficult at the moment. I think if they are going to change it

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drastically they will have to change personnel, and it depends how much

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they want to change it. The crucial answer for me there was

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international rugby is about winning. If they think they can win

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playing the style they have, and sure they will go the same style in

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combination with a little bit of tweaking. It will be interesting. It

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is a difficult time, it is a tough November calendar, and then going

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into the Six Nations, fighting for places for the Lions. And his stamp

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will be honoured, because before Warren Gatland was overseeing it,

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and now it is up to Rob. I wish well and hope he does make a few changes

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and evolve and play a bit differently. Do you think they will

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change? Sam Davies, he on the front foot, Dan hasn't played enough, so

:33:16.:33:19.

we have to see how this one goes. The Blues are going well, you put

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Scott Williams, Roberts, to play a bit differently. Those are the two

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crucial areas of selection, ten and 12. Those are the ones that will

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orchestrate how Wales want to play. Liam Williams will have to be on

:33:35.:33:37.

full-back and Lee Harvey on the wing. Those changes will be crucial

:33:38.:33:45.

to this autumn. Tell us about Matt Sherrod, bit of a left-field choice,

:33:46.:33:50.

not on their radar of anyone. We worked together at Worcester. He is

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a lovely guy, very inquisitive about the game, like some expansive style

:33:58.:34:04.

of rugby. Some of the work I signed at Worcester was very impressive in

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respect of helping players understand how to create space, good

:34:09.:34:14.

decision-making under pressure. And if we want to change our style,

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those things will be absolutely crucial. The distribution, like

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Jonathan mentioned, ten and 12 for me as well is an extremely

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interesting selection because everyone to change style we have to

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get good distributed as, and that will be the challenge. Briefly, he

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did ignore a couple of guys who have been in the Welsh scene for many a

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year, Griff Rhys and Jones. Would you have gone with them? Stephen is

:34:39.:34:43.

learning his trade, sure he will be an outstanding coach he was

:34:44.:34:47.

outstanding player, and knowing him and his work ethic, but Griff Rhys

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for me would have been an outstanding candidate. He would have

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been a serious candidate. Thanks, chaps, we have to move on. And on to

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the Cardiff Blues. They were on the road, taking their unbeaten record

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to Parma. COMMENTATOR: And you look front row for Cardiff Blues. Stephen

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Shingle at number ten. Gethin Jenkins was on the bench, so sham

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Warburton captained the side. Zebre welcome back Johan Meyer for his

:35:28.:35:34.

first art of the season. COMMENTATOR: Good pressure from

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Zebre. Always a different proposition at home, the Italians.

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They are camped on the line, and they take it up short. Just inches

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to go for a Zebre. And they are over. The first try goes to the

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Italians, and it is the scrum-half getting the congratulations. Lloyd

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Williams delaying his pastor Scully who cuts a clear line to score the

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first for the Blues. It is Cory Allen with a little dink through.

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Brilliantly done by the full-back. And it is a second for the Blues.

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And here is Tom James. At Uighurs James. You won't catch, that is a

:36:25.:36:30.

third of the season for the inform winger. Out on the left-hand side,

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and there is Giulio Bisegni. They are not giving up yet, the Italians.

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This looks promising for Zebre, if they can move the bouncing ball. It

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must be a score for Giovanbattista Venditti. And Zebre can get a droid

:36:52.:37:00.

of this. And it is all on Edoardo Padovani. But he has screwed it, and

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the Blues live again. STUDIO: It was scrappy and a little bit nail-biting

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at the end with that missed conversion, but it is another win,

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and in the scheme of things, Jonathan, that is all that matters.

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The way they started, they would be disappointed. I saw Danny Wilson's

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post-match interview, and they are happy with the win. But with three

:37:25.:37:30.

tries, and the way would have expected four tries to come away

:37:31.:37:34.

with the with a bonus point. But lucky with the missed conversion.

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Indeed. And it is a defining period coming back because they are back at

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Cardiff Arms Park where Leinster and visitors, then the small matter of

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Welsh derby the Ospreys. They are four out of four, but this will

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determine whether they are contenders this season. It was a

:37:54.:37:59.

close game yesterday, they are happy with the win, but the previous three

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performances happen pretty clinical and comprehensive in certain areas,

:38:04.:38:06.

particularly their ball carrying has improved. Their set piece is strong,

:38:07.:38:11.

their scrum as they are. They have a platform to play, and a good kicking

:38:12.:38:20.

game. The game at the moment, they are in a good position to take on

:38:21.:38:26.

Leinster. They are scoring tries and defending a lot better, that is the

:38:27.:38:31.

key. I think the Ospreys' game will be the big one. We're all looking

:38:32.:38:36.

forward to that, in a fortnight. Onto the Dragons, and the two were

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on the road in Italy this weekend. Seven changes for the Dragons with a

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Muscat hanning for the first time and I debut on the other wing.

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Treviso were without players injured in their defeat to the Ospreys.

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COMMENTATOR: Treviso try to get this rolling ball in motion. I did goes

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to midfield. A foot race for the line, and the first try goes to

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Treviso. Most jinking run. Who is in support? A lovely dummy from the

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second row, back to Davis. Now the Dragons looked dangerous. One more

:39:38.:39:43.

phase. Davis, and the big man crashing through, using his power.

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Treviso into the Dragons' 22. I good handoff from the number seven. Some

:39:54.:39:58.

football required from Treviso. The scrum-half inching closer to the

:39:59.:40:02.

line. They are screaming that the ball is being held on to. Treviso

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described to go blind, one more phase, and there it is, no mistake,

:40:09.:40:14.

gets the ball down. It is a good, clean take again from Marco Lata

:40:15.:40:20.

Ronnie. Treviso now beginning to shift this rolling maul towards the

:40:21.:40:26.

try line, and now the break. Good defence from the Dragons. Treviso

:40:27.:40:37.

are pounding away. A desperate time for the Dragons, and Marco Fuser is

:40:38.:40:45.

over, that victory down keys in their first of the season. Another

:40:46.:40:51.

defeat for the Dragons, and a disappointing one. A grievance that

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the Dragons have, that was one of two games in Italy this weekend that

:40:57.:41:01.

did not have TML, we're not suggesting it would have changed the

:41:02.:41:04.

results, but there were a couple of incidents file play that were missed

:41:05.:41:09.

simply because there was no records to the TMO, and the line judges did

:41:10.:41:13.

not have their microphones working so they could not committed with the

:41:14.:41:17.

referee. That is an issue that league should address. It has to be

:41:18.:41:21.

there in every game. If they want credibility as a league, like the

:41:22.:41:25.

French 14 and the English Premiership, they have to have TMOs

:41:26.:41:30.

everywhere. It is ridiculous they haven't. Absolutely. It is a

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disgraceful stop there is too much at stake not to have a TMO, and

:41:37.:41:41.

other competent TMO as well. Simple as that. I thought the first try was

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grounded, and when they awarded the try to go scored, he was in

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surprise. And now TMOs to refer to. The Dragons aggrieved. They have a

:41:53.:41:58.

tough game coming up against Glasgow. Glasgow just missed out

:41:59.:42:01.

against Ulster at the weekend. It was a belter of a game at the

:42:02.:42:07.

Scotstoun Stadium. Ulster are top of the league right now. Seventh try of

:42:08.:42:14.

the season for their player in this game. Two tough games coming up.

:42:15.:42:22.

With the Dragons, Treviso was a bad result. Treviso have a bigger budget

:42:23.:42:26.

than the Dragons. It is up to them, they should be doing better so there

:42:27.:42:31.

is no surprise there. But with the Dragons, it is the fact they have a

:42:32.:42:34.

lot of good youngsters, but they haven't got that extra income. The

:42:35.:42:42.

Welsh players, and also the extra dog might be looking for change in

:42:43.:42:47.

investment. If they can get that and have some experience, added to the

:42:48.:42:52.

youngsters, hopefully it will become better. But at the moment it is what

:42:53.:42:58.

it is. I don't think you can expect much, the odd result. Can they

:42:59.:43:04.

expect victory against Glasgow? It will be a huge challenge for them.

:43:05.:43:08.

They did well against Munster the week before last, and it will be a

:43:09.:43:13.

massive challenge. As Jonathan says, it is what it is. They need time to

:43:14.:43:17.

grow. There are some outstanding youngsters, and the need time to

:43:18.:43:22.

build and grow. And people realise they are up against it to a degree,

:43:23.:43:26.

with the budget, but there is a lot of effort going in. The crowd has to

:43:27.:43:30.

get behind them and make it a fortress full stop because they can

:43:31.:43:34.

still do the basics, the kicking of the tackling, and make it difficult.

:43:35.:43:37.

But expectations cannot be that great. I'm sure there will be a

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vocal crowd, it is our featured game. Make sure you join us for

:43:45.:43:48.

that. That is all we have time for this evening. Thanks to Jonathan,

:43:49.:43:52.

and to fill and for you for watching at home.

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