30/10/2016 Scrum V

Some of the big names were out of action but that was all that was

missing from a Friday night Derby that otherwise had it all. This is

crazy. Absolutely crazy. Eight tries in four games for the teenage

sensation. He is in unstoppable form. Sam Davies started young as

well. He has his sights set on the most famous Welsh jersey of them

all. You can't come in and think you are third choice. You have to try to

get in, and express yourself as much as possible. And we catch up with

Wales women as they take on the Scots at their new home.

Good evening and welcome to the last Scrum V Sunday

before the autumn internationals kick off.

Jonathan and Martyn have already selected their starting XV,

But before we get stuck into that

And if you missed this one on Friday,

don't you dare leave your sofa now. It was awesome.

Hadleigh Parkes's captained the side for the first time.

The loosehead prop was released to the Blues alongside Boyd Williams on

the bench. Five former Scarlets were in the Cardiff Blues. COMMENTATOR:

Clear by partly. -- Berkeley. Shingler, oh! Great finish by Aaron

Shingler! Great kick on the go by van der

Merwe. And it is try number two for the Scarlets. It is as easy as that,

it is Jonathan Evans. More direct from the Blues, first

time with the ball in hand. Can they break out of their own defence?

Patchell with a chance. There are many wide... oh, interception! What

a gift for Tom James. In an attacking position, Lee-Lo

gets the flat pass. Slips the tackle. Oh! Another interception,

and a long run home for the Scarlets, van der Merwe on the

outside. He should get there. He just jogs in the last 20 metres will

stop and in a game of interceptions, a telling one.

The pressure on the Blues scrum. Short ball to Shingler.

Will Boyde bumped off it. Short. Great defence from scholars, I

thought he was overdone. It really was good defending. The crowd were

celebrating. Can Dolan forced back. -- great defence from Scarlets.

Gets the pathway to Hadleigh Parkes and it has taken the Scarlets and 36

seconds of the second half to get a bonus point.

The ball has come out. Bouncing into the hands of Scully. Great finish.

Bulbring is in the way. He was tackled by his brother. Is it the

other way around? At the end of the first half. He has got to go TMO.

This is crazy. Absolutely crazy. All credit to the Scarlets, they

deserved their win and were the better side tonight. I have to

comment on some huge decisions tonight. I don't understand the

scrum at the end of the game. We received a yellow card and no

penalty try. Some big moments in the game, but ultimately, I will not

hide away, Scarlets deserved the win. We need to lick our wounds and

build for a must win game now at Treviso. The Blues were unhappy at

half-time, and a yellow card for Shingler, which was the wrong

decision, I guess? I don't want to talk too much about the referee. But

when both coaches aren't happy, we should look at it. I was happy to

get the result and get five points. To stop them getting a bonus points,

that is where we want to be. Sweet revenge for the Scarlets that lost

twice to the Blues last season, home and away. Before we get on to the

nitty-gritty, both coaches alluded to it, a big talking point on the

night. We don't make a habit of criticising referees, but a number

of grievances on both sides. Should the Blues have had a penalty try?

Why was it waited so heavily against the Scarlets. Most personally, why

was Aaron Shingler said to the sin-bin? The first thing is, before

the International 's, it is a joke, they have to look at that. You need

an experienced referee. It was a great atmosphere and a brilliant

game, but unfortunately, everyone was talking about the referee as

well. A feud dodgy decisions, that consistency is what the players

want. -- few. Matthew Morgan went for the cross kick. He was the last

man defending. Just watch, he goes up with it. If you go for an

intercept with one arm, you are in the bin. This one, this is just...

the best thing about this is, watch Stephen Shingler, showing the card

to his brother. Get him off! You can mention the penalty before the

scrum. If you show a yellow card for that, you have two chair a yellow

card for a professional foul. The assistant referee and the TMO, that

is when the team should be very issue recent -- efficient and look

at it. You have got to get the right decision. For me, look at it. That

could have changed the whole complexion of the game with ten

minutes to go. The TMO has that the authority. Why the TMO hasn't come

in to help the referee, is beyond me. Why can't they do that? The

protocol is there. It was a farce in the end. I felt sorry for the

referee in the end, because he lost control in the second half. Like the

guys have said, the coaches, it did not affect the result. The Scarlets

deserved the win. As we said on the night, it was a fantastic game. The

carnage added to the atmosphere in a certain way. Scarlets deserved

winners. The defence was solid. The defensive line speed was good. But

looking at the Blues, they have been so efficient but they gifted tries.

The first thing is, Hadleigh Parkes had been taken in. He just had to

look up and put a grubber in. The line speed is good. It was a

telegraphed pass. That is one try gifted to them, OK. But what again,

the gap is too big. Look at the size of the gap. Matthew Morgan then

should make the tackle but falls over. It is a great one-handed

off-load. Paul defence. They are too wide apart. They go in, easy drive,

not expecting the pick and drive, look at the gap between the

forwards. The scrum-half should be behind, but unfortunately he is not.

It is so big, the gap. If you look at it as a coach, it is just

ridiculous. To gift three tries, but I thought Nick Williams is injured

and might be out for a while. They have no penetrative runners, they

couldn't break the Scarlets defence down. They really struggled to look

as if they would score tries. The Scarlets deserved to win. Talking

about penetrative runners can we talk about how the scholars have

struggled to punch holes in defences, which is their major

weakness. They picked guys yesterday, fringe players that are

not used to starting, and some of them really enhanced their

reputations. Will Boyde was top drawer, by an alias. Every team

wants to win but they had more urgency in the breakdown area. They

didn't have a seven, Cam Dolan goes in an arc. Look at the gap he leads

himself. It only takes a split-second, you are not going to

move someone as strong as Will Boyde. They do a job early on. Van

der Merwe summed up how urgent they were in the penalty area. Back on

his feet, scrappy from Lloyd Williams and Tomos Williams that

came on. Watch Shingler, he makes the tackle, and they win the

turnover. We have criticised the Scarlets pack this year, but without

the ball, they did a job on the Blues in the contact area. Almost

the point you made, Jonathan, it was a faux pas with the fixture where it

was in the calendar, which meant the international players couldn't play.

But the fringe players stepped up. Brilliant. It was a great

atmosphere, it was a great game, littered with mistakes, but

unfortunately people are talking about the refereeing decisions.

Sometimes with the atmosphere, you need an experienced referee. He

stepped in late, and I don't care what the protocol is, those four

have to get it right. The TMO, the assistant referees, the mistakes

were plain. I feel sorry for him, but a brilliant game. A fantastic

game, we will find out what happened in the second Welsh derby of the

weekend. But first, a round-up of Pro12 action from the rest of the

weekend. COMMENTATOR: The forwards go again.

Feeds it to Jackson. Crossfield kick. Gilroy is there. That is a

great opening score for Ulster. The forwards are just snuffling

their way closer to that line. But that is a red boot that has hacked

that on. Lyttle, the teenager is over! What a try from the

19-year-old. Ulster really need to make the

territory count here -- monster. Scannell down into the corner, and

finally Munster make the scoreboard ticked in their direction.

Williams is going to have two get it out and see what his options are.

Taute is over, that is a try! Munster are back within a score.

The determination by the visitors as Copeland takes it on. Who is next?

It is arch. He gets over the gain line, just. It goes back, Scannell

in the pocket, drop goal attempt. It is given, and that is the win.

Trailing 12-0 after 40 minutes, two second-half tries for the home side

looked to spearhead Edinburgh's rushes. But in the dying moments,

the visitors sent a try over. Edinburgh with their first victim --

Zebre with the first victory of their Pro12 season. Four first half

tries for the home side had the bonus point in the bag after 40

minutes. The second coming from a Tommy Seymour break, finished off

clinically by centre Mark Bennett. A horror show for the visitors, who

now sit bottom of the table. A crowd of over 18,000 packed into

the RDS to watch Leinster reverse last season's Pro12 final last year.

Leinster scored two tries in the second half. Leinster go top and

stretch their winning run at home to 19 games.

A week before the start of the autumn internationals,

Wales Women played their first test of the season.

Rowland Phillips was at the helm, as they took on Scotland

at their new home, the Cardiff Arms Park.

Less than 24 hours after that one of the most exciting matches of the

Pro12 this season, it is now the turn of the women's National side,

who play Scotland in their first start at their new home. We have

been at some fantastic clubs over the years, but it shows the respect

that people are showing for the women's game in Wales. It is a

fantastic stadium, in the capital of Wales, so that is great for us. The

first time we have had an autumn test for a number of years. A chance

for Rowland to try out his players. It is our prep for the Six Nations

and the World Cup. A great opportunity to run out today and to

see how the players are performing. Come on, guys! We spent a lot of

time watching the women's sevens at the Olympics, and the quality was

absolutely incredible. It helped the decision to come here today. Quite a

lot of camaraderie it seems. I think so, definitely! It is all good fun.

COMMENTATOR: Charlotte Harris driving to the line for Wales. A lot

of Welsh forwards there. Alicia butchers, and the captain goes over

for the first try for Wales and it had to come. In terms of women's

rugby in general, is it making strides? Definitely. You can see

that from the amount of girls here today. It is the first time in a

while we have had a autumn international, possibly the first

time ever, so it is really, really good.

Here is Phillips crossing the 22. Bevan to the right-hand side.

Brilliantly to Charlie Murray and that is as good as it gets for

Wales. Amazing. Really exciting and we are going to win, so that is what

we are most excited about. I have always loved rugby, and I love a bit

more free-flowing rugby. There is a bit less emphasis on the power game,

and a bit more skill. Butchers five metres short of the line now for

Wales. Just needs a final touch and it comes to Kavanagh.

We took some nice positive steps forward today, and we keep building

on that. Confidence is a big thing, belief is a big thing, the value of

rugby is huge. We saw plenty of that today. Really good for the women's

game. There is so much interest, and the momentum is picking up in Wales.

Congratulations to the women, getting their test season off to a

winning start. Phil Steele was commentating on that one, and here

he is with the Premiership round-up. Action kicked off on Tuesday, a

repeat of the outcome from the last meeting, something to spare. No joy

yesterday, though. Aaron Warren with this try, which competent at 15

points scored by Jack Maynard. An eight try demolition of Swansea,

Branwell grabbed a brace of tries, and looked like a top eight place.

The wizards pounced back with six second-half tries, and a nice way

for Richard Carter to celebrate his 300th appearance. Rapidly improving

Bridgend made it four wins on the bounce in all, dishes. Ravens never

looked in trouble. Mark Bennett scored this try. Don't rule them out

for a top eight place. Game of the Pontypridd and Neath, sharing nine

tries. An honourable mention for the All Blacks, who contributed to a

real five slap of a match. Also worth a hat tip, four tries

including this, the final one. Cardiff kept in touch with the top

eight despite playing all of the last quarter without Johnny Edwards,

who was red carded for a punch. They came from a hind to win. It is as

you work in the top three. The gap between the bottom eight is

still at three points with Cardiff and Bridgend looking best poised to

take advantage of any slip-ups above.

And before we move on, we'd like to offer our condolences

to the family of former Llandovery and Aberystwyth player,

Eifion Gwynne who passed away last week at the age of 41.

And there was some sad news yesterday as well,

The former Ebbw Vale, Wales and Lions number eight,

who also became Wales' first ever coach.

Habberfield was partnered at half-backs, last weeks hat-trick

hero Giles made a return after training with the national squad. It

was all change in the front row, Thomas partnering Harris.

COMMENTATOR: Matavesi, leading with the elbow. That looked dangerous. He

could be in trouble. Let's see what Ben Whitehouse makes of this one. It

is a yellow card, ten minutes in the bin for imagery Arhip. Habberfield

looks both ways. Coming back to the openside, Dan Lydiate. Another

flying elbow from Lydiate. If there is to be consistency, he could find

himself cooling down to ten minutes, two. Ben Whitehouse has decided to

be more lenient on this occasion. Them and controlling things at the

base. Out to Habberfield. That is too easy for Ospreys. Two flailing

tackles, Ospreys on the scoreboard. Clean take in the middle of the

line-out. Ospreys setting up the rolling maul. Powering towards the

line. It is a try for Baldwin. What a message to send out to Rob Howley.

Habberfield down into the midfield. Lovely dummy. What an off-load from

Matavesi. The youngster cannot stop scoring. That is his seventh try and

four games. Loose ball, only one winner here. Another try for the

youngster. What a cool finish, Giles over the line. Eight tries in four

games, bonus point for Ospreys. This game is beyond the Dragons now,

surely. Keelan Giles taking the physical route now. Brendon Leonard.

Like Habberfield did, between two tackles. Far too easy for Ospreys

and they are running away with this one.

The Dragons have five minutes left on the clock now. Can they bagged a

consolation try? Keeping things tight. Matthew Screech wiggles over,

a try for the Dragons, but nothing more than a consolation.

We enter the closing moments here at the Liberty Stadium, Dragons still

in possession and they are not giving up. There is an overlap. Nice

pass, the winger sliding, another try for the Dragons, but it will

offer little in the way of comfort. They are well beaten here tonight. I

am proud of the boys. They deserved five points, but conceded a couple

of tries at the back end, which is disappointing. Massive pride, there

are so many proud players coming to international duty. But good to get

the five points. A little bird tells me you have been calling yourself

Josh Biggar, asking for a pay rise. After a performance like that, why

not? It has been a tough week, switching position. But Luke Price,

but they have been helpful with me. Thanks to those guys. This is a

tough place to come against a good team, so no complaints. We need to

take some belief, particularly from the last 10-15 minutes. We kept

going. Obviously, on our own ground, it is a different kettle of fish, so

we want to keep the same effort, improve. We need to improve for the

game against Connacht. Leinster go top after their win

against Connacht. Glasgow third, and those teams all on the same points.

Very tight at the top. Munster into fourth, Ulster dropped to fifth. As

we saw on Friday, Scarlets swap with the Blues, into the top six. We

talked at the start of the programme about the missing internationals.

The Ospreys supply more than any side, 12 in all. 12 in the squad

initially, which makes the performance yesterday that bit more

impressive. If ever the Dragons were going to go to the Liberty Stadium

to win, with the missing players, but Ospreys, the pack was

outstanding. So physical, the Dragons couldn't handle the

physicality. When they had the ball, they couldn't make inroads. This was

after two minutes, and they couldn't get over the gain line. They were

manhandled. That is after two minutes in, spilling the ball. But

really impressed when they had the ball. Controlling the tackle area,

Scott Baldwin with the off-load to Arhip. Brilliant ball play. McCusker

from Norway, he had a great game, he got them on the front foot. When

they have two, they ground it out. The physicality, they couldn't

handle them. When you think of the players that were out of the Ospreys

pack yesterday, to do that to the Dragons, I would be worried, because

they are in a rut at the minute. As well as Ospreys played, on the flip

side, the Dragons were very poor yesterday. Scott Baldwin, what a

message, he goes and scores a try. Putting his name back into the hat

for Australia. We talked about the refereeing in the first Welsh derby,

there was an interesting talking point yesterday. Arhip sent to the

bin for leading with the forehand. Lydiate did something similar and

got away with it. I'm not sure if I can spot the

difference. Sometimes you have to give the player the benefit of the

doubt. If you are going to offend someone, if you need a bit of space,

your natural wood action is to go like that. Because you cannot extend

it, you have to hit to defend yourself. It is all about

consistency. Here is the first one. He gets up. He leads with it, that's

it. That is nearly a red card. What's the difference here? What is

the difference? I can't spot one. So you think neither of them should

have been... ? Sometimes, yes, the players welfare is the most

important thing but you have to give the benefit of the doubt because

there, if you give a yellow card, it is something to spoil the game.

Nearly a red card is one, which is a prop, and then you have a week

forward does the same and doesn't get penalised. Where is the

consistency and the referees to help the referee out? We talked about

Keelan Giles and stop pressing this guy's claim for international rugby

but he has done it again. Put him in the alliance map straightaway. He is

a special talent. He has got that one thing that I wish I had, he has

speed. I was really impressed with his all-round game. He defended well

but you have to put it into context. You can only play what is in front

of you. He will play for Wales many times. At 18 years of age, let him

develop. Look at the first try. He runs a good angle. But he is there,

he has pace, he looks for work and the playing for the Ospreys, they

will develop him well, but realistically, you haven't got that

great strength and depth for Wales. Those two boys in the Ospreys

yesterday might well be called up. I would not brush them myself, put

them in the camp, bring them along, but if we get injured, you might see

him playing in the autumn. If he wants to stay under the radar, he

has to stop playing so well. Now then, it's the most fabled

jersey in Welsh rugby history. Sam Davies may have some strong

competition in that Welsh squad, but the Ospreys pivot is determined

to make his presence felt. Many congratulations on your call

up. Take us back to the day when it happened. I was in training,

preparing for the game against Lyon and then James King said, Sam, you

might want to check your e-mails. I had a quick look and an e-mail came

through saying, congratulations, you have been selected. Did you come in

thinking, I am the third choice, or do you come in, I want to prove

myself? Definitely. You cannot wrest back and watch the other guys do the

wraps. You have to be stubborn, get in and express yourself as much as

possible. Tell us about your religion ship with time bigger. You

are schoolmates, rivals and now you are Welsh international team-mates.

It is interesting and a talking point. We get on well but at the end

of the day, the rivalry on the field can stay off the field and we remain

mates off the field. It is getting a bit more competitive on the training

partner. With Wales, Dan has 40 plus caps so he has the experience these

games need. Like I said, it will only benefit us both. Nigel Davies

going through. Can he make it to the corner? There is pedigree in the

Davies family. Father Nigel enjoyed a decade-long test career and some's

passion was evident from an early age. The first word he ever said was

ball and I have pictures of him trying to keep the ball all over the

house. It is something he has done from the moment he could speak, walk

and talk is play with a ball. After every game he rings me and lets me

know how he thinks I went and that is great for me, because it is good

to have someone who knows so much about the game. Just keeps my feet

on the ground and make sure I keep improving and he can help critique

my game. Do you take that criticism better from him? Definitely. That's

why it comes in handy if it comes from my father. That is where you

need to work on it more. He has played internationally for the under

20s, he has played for the Ospreys but I have always said, if you do

ever get a Welsh cup, it is the beginning. It will be very emotional

for me, having seen the journey he has gone through. A great delay!

Brilliant from Sam Davies. Beautiful play. Let's talk about your

opponents coming up. A lot of people are judging everyone else against

the gold standard of New Zealand and some are coming to the conclusion

that Australia are a soft target because they were beaten heavily by

New Zealand. We are looking at this game as a real tough opposition as

southern hemisphere teams always are and we are going to do our utmost.

Hopefully a good start against Australia which builds momentum and

just consistent performances then. That is a great upbeat note to

finish on. Good luck, Sam. Good half an hour we had with Sam Davies and

his position in the Welsh squad richly deserved. Another thing he

mentioned in that interview was how he relishes the physical side of the

game despite being a smaller player. A bit different when you have

someone Albert running down your channel. I would not say when issue

the physical side but he has played well this year. As Nigel said, he

has played internationally so he knows what it is like to be in camp

and he has stepped up a level. Rightly he is in the squad and we

have to see what happens in the autumn. That shot of Nigel playing

was your debut, Martin. A nice ginger mop of hair so you would not

recognise me. Let's talk about Australia. First opponents in this

autumn campaign. Before we talk about our prospects, I want to talk

about the team because you have come up with a combined 15. I think the

front five picks itself. It is a toss-up between Bradley Davies and

Luke Charter. Back row, our best player is unfortunately injured. Got

to pick Ross Moriarty, he was outstanding against New Zealand. I

don't think Sam will be ready, he has not played much of the battle

this year. He has not done himself justice. An interesting selection. I

think they will start with this and hopefully the Williams will be fit,

I would pick him at full-back because I know Lee Halfpenny is very

comfortable in the wing. Start with the same set midfield, but it all

depends on how they go in on selection for the autumn and which

way they want to play, so whoever gets a ten berth on the bench, Scott

Williams into centre, they mention evolving their game and I think that

after seeing this selection and how they play, and what changes they

make, subtle changes, because they have to evolve. The way we have

played, people have worked us out so it will be a severe test. The

biggest test traditionally is getting them up to speed to an

international level. We always struggle starting. That will be the

biggest challenge for the players because the Australians have been

playing against the best against the world, they are up to pace, up to

speed. We have the talent to beat the Australians, it's just whether

they can get up to speed straightaway. It is managing

expectations as well. I watched last weeks Test match against New

Zealand, that was a real test and I think Australia will start as

favourites on Saturday. They will have regrouped, have the Rugby

Championship kind them and they will be hard to beat. I'm not saying we

can't beat them, but if we play well, or don't play well, that is

the range we can look at success rates but it will be a real tough

ask and for me it is evolving. Results are the most important

thing, seeing how Wales plays is important for me and seeing who the

selection will be in ten, 12, 13 positions. In the modern game, you

will be disappointed not to make the 15th but it is about the squad. If

you are a player, you want the starting jersey. We found out in the

summer, the bench is so important. That's where I could see where it

you would put Moriarty because maybe Dan Baker is more of an impact

player in the last half-hour. Yes, the old age debate of who will start

20 years ago was a big thing but now you need 23 layers who can play test

rugby. With the water comes you watch all the sites play rugby union

and rugby league and the southern hemisphere sides they have composure

and they are clinical and that happens. They try and play things,

but if it is not on, they will be patient and they won't try it. They

know they have time on their hands and that is where we need to see

with Wales, they have been in positions and blown it, so hopefully

with this squad developing and mature in, they now know what they

need to win games and if you look at Argentina, how they have evolves,

they got the Rugby Championship, date can't win by kicking goals,

they have to play and that's where Wales have to show everyone they are

trying to change. Showing change and attacking structures. You have

beaten them, how do you do it? First when we have beaten them it was the

fourth game. The Welsh toys should be confident. They did well in the

summer. Those first two tests, we were fighting New Zealand there. I

hope Ian Williams is fit. If we can overcome the two best players, a bit

of luck, I see no reason why we can't be in with a shout. If we play

well, we can win every game. I love that. We can beat them all!

This time next week, we'll hopefully be celebrating

a first victory over the Wallabies in eight years.

That's a great try by Rhys Webb! Alice

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