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Hello. Super League 17 is little more than a week old

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and we've already had enough talking points

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to keep us going for the entire summer.

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We'll get through as many of them as we can over the next 45 minutes

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and we'll have a complete round-up

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of all six matches played in Round Two. Here's what's coming up.

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Two of Super League's superpowers face off

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in a Saturday special at Wigan.

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Talking heads. We meet the new coaches making their mark in Hull.

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And hold on tight.

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The Warrington Wolves are the latest team to go egg-chasing.

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We have representatives of Wigan and St Helens in the studio with us.

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Between them, they've kicked more than 600 goals in Super League.

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Pat Richards of Wigan has 601. Saints' Jon Wilkin...

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But we'll move on, shall we, Jon?

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Because Saturday night saw undoubtedly the biggest fixture of the season so far,

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Wigan versus Leeds,

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a genuine clash of the titans.

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Oh, here's an opportunity. Look at the speed on this lad, and he's...

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What a magnificent try!

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There he goes!

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Unbelievable!

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Here it comes! Wigan looking to strike again!

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Laverty too!

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Oh!

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This is going to be the try of the season!

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That was absolutely sensational!

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This is a champion side!

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And Martin Offiah trying to make some space!

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Martin Offiah, he's got Alan Tait to beat

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on the outside! He's going the full length!

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That is one sensational try!

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For the first time in a long time,

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English coaches in charge of both these clubs

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for this most traditional of fixtures.

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The young centre Jack Hughes starts for Wigan

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in the absence of the injured George Carmont.

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Leeds haven't lost a game

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since that Challenge Cup final defeat to Wigan last August.

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Kallum Watkins misses out with a wrist injury.

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Weller Hauraki comes into the side.

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And carrying on in the spirit of j'accuse...!

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It's the Frenchman Thierry Alibert, our referee tonight.

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There's McIlorum.

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Wigan sensing maybe an opportunity growing here.

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Certainly close enough. Hock with the offload.

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Tomkins involved again.

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And Wigan keeping it alive here.

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Hock with the drive.

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Four to put him down.

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Here's McIlorum. Wants to get on with it.

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Wigan within sight.

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Here's O'Loughlin. Good hands to Charnley!

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And Josh Charnley might just have scored the first of the night.

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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Or has he?

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They're looking for obstruction here

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in the build-up to this try.

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Now have a look at the dummy runner.

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Was Jamie Jones-Buchanan taken out of defence here?

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Finch with the ball away,

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and Jones-Buchanan was hit.

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And the video referee has decided it was an obstruction. No try!

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That's raised a few questions.

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Move! Get in!

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There's Finch.

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Four! Move!

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Hughes.

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He looked reasonably impressive so far tonight, the youngster.

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Certainly an athletic build.

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Here's Tomkins now, takes a couple of players out with the angle of his run

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and Charnley putting the foot down,

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looking for the line, this time inside Brent Webb,

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and Charnley by the sticks.

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Not happy with the involvement of Lee Smith at the end of it.

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But the try given on this occasion.

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That's a little bit naughty in the in-goal area.

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But Josh Charnley has his try

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and it came on the back of some very good work by Sam Tomkins here,

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drawing two defenders in. Good centre play by Goulding,

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and a very smart finish by the Wigan winger.

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Although he wasn't happy with Lee Smith.

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Shaun Wane looking for his first win as Wigan coach, of course,

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after that surprise defeat to Huddersfield last week.

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Here's McIlorum.

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Tomkins again involved, and Tomkins ripping a hole in that Leeds defence

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and laying it on a plate for Charnley to get a second!

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Might have had a hat-trick already tonight, but for the video referee,

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but he does have two.

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And they have both come courtesy of some very good play by Sam Tomkins.

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Charnley with the simplest of finishes.

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Move! It's out!

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Here's McIlorum.

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Oh, and it's been dropped.

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Leapt on by Harrison Hansen with a line,

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not quite at his mercy,

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but certainly begging to be questioned by that Wigan attack.

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Jones-Buchanan taking it away.

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This was the moment, this was the moment, and as he drops it,

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Leeds make a break here. It's Ryan Hall

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and Burrow kicks it on.

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It's given us a forward pass

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when Burrow would have fancied his chances of scoring.

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And that's a harsh decision. It's a very harsh decision.

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Frustration for Leeds, and Ryan Hall.

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It remains 12-nil.

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There's McIlorum.

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Looked a little high, and was.

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Darrell Griffin and Jamie Peacock maybe both guilty

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of taking the player higher than they should have done.

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My word, there was a bit of a crunch there, wasn't there?

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So the penalty goes Wigan and Tuson's way,

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and a chance for Pat Richards to extend the lead here.

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12-nil at the moment,

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this to make it a three-score lead that Wigan have.

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14 points to nil. The task is getting harder for Leeds here.

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Wigan are grinding it out, and young and old alike

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will be enjoying what they're seeing if they're watching in Wigan colours.

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Move it!

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Hold!

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Robbie Burrow, into the marshalling position.

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Slipped back on the inside by Kevin Sinfield, and Webb in support!

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Wigan's defence was smart enough, but they're under pressure here.

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It's Leeds's turn to pose a question.

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The drive by Griffin! Darrell Griffin!

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Has he got this down?

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The referee says he has

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and Leeds are back in the game.

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Sheer determination here from Darrell Griffin, and the try was his reward.

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And a coach who will have appreciated that.

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So Leeds right back in contention here.

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Another try quickly, and it's a very different storyline here tonight.

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Move! Hold, hold.

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Struggled to find their poise at times, but here they are

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with a real chance to grasp themselves back in the game.

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Griffin with the offload on Webb!

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Well, almost a tryline at his mercy, even from 80 yards out,

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because there was nobody home,

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and this stocked Griffin with a great offload

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but Webb couldn't keep hold and a try goes a-begging.

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Here's Peacock.

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So they've had their chances here.

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It's a question of keeping their mojo when it matters. And Hall again!

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Another one spilt by Leeds.

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Moving it wide, and Hauraki with the overlap on the outside

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couldn't keep hold, couldn't get it away.

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And Leeds miss a very good opportunity again.

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Here's Richards.

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Wigan looking for this centre ground once more,

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and out wide, here's O'Loughlin and Goulding.

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Good offload from Goulding.

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Hat-trick for Josh Charnley!

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The simplest of the night, as far as he's concerned.

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But great hands in the build-up, not least from Goulding and O'Laughlin...

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..to simply draw this Leeds defence in

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and leave an almighty gap out wide.

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Good work by Goulding.

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It's a first hat-trick in Wigan colours for Josh Charnley,

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and a first win as Wigan coach for Shaun Wane.

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Pat, were you a bit chastened after last week's defeat to Huddersfield?

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Yeah, it wasn't the greatest start for us,

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but it was great to turn it around, come out and perform like we did,

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that was really pleasing.

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We spoke about a few things last week we weren't happy about,

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and like I said, to go out and perform pretty well,

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it was really pleasing.

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It's a tough game, isn't it? Leeds as your second in the season.

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Yeah, exactly. They're the champions as well,

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so it was great to have a big game at home after a loss like that.

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We didn't want to start the season off like that,

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but yeah, it was great to have them come out,

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and it was on telly as well,

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so it was a great atmosphere at the ground as well.

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Josh Charnley had three cracking tries. He looks a right character.

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Yeah, I don't know too much about those dance moves and his hairstyle,

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but he's a good finisher

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and playing really good footy at the moment,

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and all the other boys in the middle done a great job setting him up

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and he'd be the first to say that.

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And Sam Tomkins very involved in all of them,

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he looks absolutely on top of the game.

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How has he coped with all the attention on him?

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He's doing great, nothing really changes too much

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once he steps out on the field, and the training field too.

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Sam's a great professional, doing a great job for us.

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He's certainly got that X factor.

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He's got so much speed out there,

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it just creates that avalanche a lot of the time, and yeah,

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I'm certainly glad he's on our side.

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Should Josh Charnley have had a fourth try, an opening try?

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What did you make of the obstruction?

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Yeah, I thought it could have been given.

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The player didn't get impeded too much, and it went on from that,

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so I thought it was a try,

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but, you know, I think the benefit of the doubt should have been given.

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Common sense should have prevailed.

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But they're the rules, you can't obviously touch a player,

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and we got on with it. It didn't come back to haunt us,

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so we're just glad to get the win.

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-Jon, is that a rule that should be looked at?

-I think, like he said,

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common sense should prevail there.

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I think the defender was impeded,

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but wasn't involved in the sort of play that resulted in the try

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so I think for me it was a try.

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I think all coaches and players would probably agree with that,

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so when there's a case like that, I think we probably need to look at it.

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What do you make of Leeds' performance last night?

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I thought they tried really hard, the effort was there,

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but I think what they came up against

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was a Wigan side who really turned up with their A game.

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Certainly defensively, I thought Wigan were outstanding

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and that was probably the star of the show for me, Wigan's defence.

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I know Charnley got the headlines with his tries,

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but certainly Wigan looked so solid,

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composed, controlled in a lot of elements of their defence.

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Yeah, I think it's a challenge for Leeds,

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as a few of their players really had stand-out games.

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-Rob Burrow ran for, I think...

-What did you make of him?

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He played the full 80 minutes, which didn't happen last year.

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He came off the bench.

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I think with the interchanges, you need players like this now.

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Unfortunately for Rob, he was defending out on an edge.

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He only made 12 tackles in the game,

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which is not a lot for a guy playing a hooker,

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but he ran for 146 metres in the game. I think he topped the metres,

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so it shows you that he's done very well in the game.

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Another stand-out player, Jamie Jones Buchanan for Leeds,

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I thought he did well. He does a lot of the tough stuff,

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regular for Leeds. Yeah, Rob would be a big player for Leeds,

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as we found out in the grand final against us,

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he really was the difference between the two sides in that game.

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A typically brought blunt quote from Brian McDermott afterwards -

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he called it "a 12-round title fight but we couldn't land a punch."

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That's it, yeah, Wigan's strength is that consistency in their defence

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and scoring points against them, for any side, is a challenge this year

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and the key to unlocking it is going to be the key to beating them,

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and I'll try and get some tips off Pat after the show.

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-There may be some ways round it.

-Just quickly,

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are there any major tweaks from Shaun Wane, the new coach?

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Yeah, Waney's done a great job so far. Our pre-season's been spot-on.

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He's been there for the last couple of years, but yeah,

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since it's been taken over, he's added a few little things,

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his own little subtleties to our game,

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and he was really pleased with our performance.

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Like Jon said, our defence, we base our game on that

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and to defend like that against a really dangerous side like Leeds

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who throw the ball around a lot, we were really pleased with that.

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Well, the fixture computer has been a little cruel to London Broncos.

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In Round One, they had to face St Helens

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and on Sunday, in Round Two, they travelled to Warrington.

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Jon, a bit of a hammering for them.

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Yeah, I think facing Warrington at any stage of the year is difficult.

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They've probably come back from Australia preseason,

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had a bit of a rusty start and then really hit their straps this week.

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What you see from them is their ability to score tries from anywhere on the field,

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to throw the ball around.

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When you've got creative players like Lee Briers on the field,

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you're always going to create opportunities.

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I think, for me, last year, they really set the standard in attack -

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they scored over 1,000 points last year

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and this year, for me, they're a big, big threat

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for anybody who plays them.

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Controlling the number of points they score is a challenge for anyone,

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and they seem to have set off like they ended last year.

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Lee Briers missed last week - he was dropped.

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Back and absolutely central and praised very much by Tony Smith.

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You see his contribution across the park.

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Yeah, Lee's one of those players that he has days like this,

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where everything he touches turns to gold.

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And he certainly seems, from this performance,

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that he's got everything right.

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He made a lot of good decisions with the ball

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and what will be pleasing as well is that,

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for Warrington, they've not conceded many points.

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As a coach, you're happy to score these high-scoring games.

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You know, get your points up.

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It's great they're not conceding as well.

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Tony Smith will be as pleased with that as with the attacking side of things.

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You were quite impressed with London last week?

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Yeah, I think that they were primed to play that game.

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Very difficult to play in London.

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I think London away is a difficult fixture for anyone.

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They faced a very confident Warrington side

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with new recruits like Ratchford in the side.

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You know, they'll learn some lessons from this.

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A great try, this, for him on his home debut, isn't it?

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Yeah, and it just shows you what he's about -

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he's all about his instincts, Stef, and he showed great instincts there,

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to carry on his run and score the try.

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Yeah, I think, like I said, Warrington are a threat

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because they can score from any position on the field

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and when they've got players like Lee setting up tries

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and scoring tries, they're going to be tough.

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Pat, do you think Warrington feel they've got a point to prove

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after the ending of last season for them?

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Yeah, they were consistent all the way through the year.

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And they wouldn't have been happy to finish the way they did,

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but, just like everyone else,

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they've got a long way to wait for the business end to...

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When it really matters to start again.

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So it's about week-in, week-out but, like you see there,

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once Warrington get on a roll, they're pretty hard to stop.

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They are indeed. If you were with us last week,

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you will have seen Castleford Tigers have the prestigious honour

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of being the first team to try their hand at Egg Chasers.

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It's a bit of fun featuring a bunch of Super League players,

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a giant egg and spoon, and an obstacle course.

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I'll let Dave Woods guide you through it.

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Seconds away, it's time for Round Two of the Egg Chasers.

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This week, the Warrington Wolves are into the FRYING PAN

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of our CRACKING new obstacle course.

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A late handling error cost the Castleford Tigers

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a five-second penalty last week.

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The Wolves are hungry like, well, wolves

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to climb to the top of the pack.

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Three team-mates negotiate the course

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whilst carrying a giant egg and spoon.

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Over the season, the quickest team will claim the prize.

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But be careful, because time penalties apply.

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So who are the three Warrington Wolves

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ready to accept the egg-chasing challenge?

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Chris Riley, winger.

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Ryan Atkins, centre.

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Brooke Broughton, prop forward.

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Ryan Shaw, spoon carrier.

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LAUGHTER

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KLAXON

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So Brooke Broughton is the first to go -

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a fine, upstanding, young prop forward.

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Looks like he might eat this egg at the end of the course. He's a big lad!

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Carefully does it, carefully does it.

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But he doesn't want to let his team-mates down.

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Over the hurdle and that's not a bad first run

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by the young Warrington player. Here comes Ryan Atkins.

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Nice skip by him.

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He's a little slow, though, isn't he?

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A little too cautious.

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It's like watching your grandfather dancing with your grandmother, this.

6:25:406:25:44

But he is going to get there in the end, finally.

6:25:446:25:47

Now Chris Riley.

6:25:476:25:48

There's something about redheads when it comes to this obstacle course -

6:25:486:25:52

they do take it very seriously.

6:25:526:25:54

Here he comes, carefully again.

6:25:546:25:56

Oh, wake me up when he's finished, will you?

6:25:566:25:58

Come on, Chris! Get a move on! There's a time to be beaten!

6:25:586:26:02

And the obstacles are just getting harder!

6:26:026:26:04

Ah, who needs enemies with friends like that?

6:26:046:26:07

Warrington? Pathetic.

6:26:076:26:09

Absolutely pathetic.

6:26:096:26:12

Well, the Wolves completed the course in a mind-numbing 52.5 seconds.

6:26:126:26:19

And 15 seconds' worth of time penalties

6:26:196:26:22

are likely to cost them in the final analysis.

6:26:226:26:25

Well, if anybody still cares,

6:26:266:26:29

Castleford Tigers lead after Week Two,

6:26:296:26:31

and that time of 49.78 seconds looks like a tough one to beat.

6:26:316:26:36

Egg Chasers will be back next week, and we promise to be pun-free.

6:26:366:26:41

OM-LETTing you make up your own puns at home.

6:26:416:26:43

-Yes!

-Now I should tell you both that obviously the two teams

6:26:446:26:47

that have done it have then won their game that week,

6:26:476:26:51

so I trust you'll take it seriously.

6:26:516:26:52

Picking up any tips?

6:26:526:26:54

Yeah, I could do with that spoon for my cereal in the morning.

6:26:546:26:57

It'd make it a lot shorter process.

6:26:576:27:00

-Maybe at the end of the run, we'll put it up for bids for you.

-Cheers.

6:27:006:27:03

Huddersfield were the big winners of Week One

6:27:036:27:06

and they were looking to back up their win at Wigan

6:27:066:27:09

with home success against Widnes.

6:27:096:27:11

They did it in some style, Pat.

6:27:116:27:12

How impressed were you when Huddersfield beat you last week?

6:27:126:27:16

Yeah, I thought they played really well.

6:27:166:27:19

Their defence was great, they ran hard.

6:27:196:27:21

Danny Brough's kicking game was really solid as well,

6:27:216:27:24

and they've got a few players that can really hurt you when they get on a roll.

6:27:246:27:27

I think in this game, they scored some really great tries.

6:27:276:27:30

That's the first of four for Leroy Cudjoe.

6:27:306:27:33

Yeah, he played well last week as well.

6:27:336:27:35

He's a good talent out there, he's a big handful when he gets going

6:27:356:27:38

and, you know, Nathan Brown's got this side pretty well coached

6:27:386:27:41

and, as you see, they have great shape there

6:27:416:27:44

and they're always in the right position,

6:27:446:27:46

so I think Widnes found it a tough day.

6:27:466:27:48

And only one overseas player in the 17.

6:27:486:27:50

That's a great sign for Super League, isn't it?

6:27:506:27:53

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

6:27:536:27:54

You know, they're all putting their hand up, obviously,

6:27:546:27:57

for the international game as well

6:27:576:27:59

and it's a great thing for the league as well.

6:27:596:28:02

Widnes... We had Denis Betts in last week - he's realistic about it,

6:28:026:28:06

but they are going to struggle a bit.

6:28:066:28:08

Yeah, I think the biggest concern here would be the defence

6:28:086:28:11

and maybe the ease at which Huddersfield scored some of these tries.

6:28:116:28:15

You have to credit Huddersfield with the skill, vision and awareness to take advantage,

6:28:156:28:19

but I'm sure that the one key focus for Widnes this coming week

6:28:196:28:24

or for the rest of the season will be that defence.

6:28:246:28:27

You just really can't afford to give teams as many opportunities

6:28:276:28:31

as they did, and I think what you saw with Huddersfield

6:28:316:28:34

is a really ruthless performance

6:28:346:28:37

with a lot of, you know, very quick, young English players in the side.

6:28:376:28:41

And that's one of the strengths of the Huddersfield team, that leg speed.

6:28:416:28:44

A lot of leg speed within their team, a lot of players who,

6:28:446:28:47

you know, have got good speed and good agility.

6:28:476:28:51

But for Widnes, it's just a case of

6:28:516:28:53

having a look at their own individual defensive game

6:28:536:28:57

and just trying to improve.

6:28:576:28:59

That was just a consolation try for them there, really.

6:28:596:29:01

It's going to be tough for them, mentally,

6:29:016:29:03

to deal with a defeat like that.

6:29:036:29:05

They had a psychologist in over the winter,

6:29:056:29:07

but it'll be tough to come back from something that.

6:29:076:29:10

It is, yeah. It's tough, it's tough,

6:29:106:29:11

especially when you're watching sides run tries in against you.

6:29:116:29:15

It can dent your confidence. But for Widnes, it's...

6:29:156:29:19

The key is, probably, keeping their players fit.

6:29:196:29:22

If they get their best choice 13 on the field consistently,

6:29:226:29:26

you know, I think they will be a threat this year.

6:29:266:29:28

The challenge is, you know, keeping the side fresh

6:29:286:29:31

and making sure they really pick their games

6:29:316:29:34

that they're going to go out there and really have an effort to win.

6:29:346:29:37

They've got some great players in the side

6:29:376:29:39

and this may be a one-off blip and they'll come good next week.

6:29:396:29:42

Pat, just very quickly,

6:29:426:29:43

is Widnes/Salford a big game for both of them next week?

6:29:436:29:46

Yeah, definitely.

6:29:466:29:48

Both sides are obviously going to want to get off to a good start.

6:29:486:29:51

We were the same last week.

6:29:516:29:52

We lost the first one, we weren't happy with that.

6:29:526:29:55

It just... A win...

6:29:556:29:57

That first win, you chalk that off

6:29:576:29:59

and you can just take a bit of confidence out of that

6:29:596:30:01

and build your season.

6:30:016:30:02

Yeah, both sides will be looking forward to a great performance next week.

6:30:026:30:07

And it'll kick their season off.

6:30:076:30:09

So we've seen wins for Wigan, Warrington and Huddersfield.

6:30:096:30:12

Here's what's still to come tonight.

6:30:126:30:15

It's a historic night for St Helens

6:30:196:30:21

as they open their new home at Langtree Park.

6:30:216:30:24

We get to know the new neighbours.

6:30:266:30:29

Craig Sandercock and Peter Gentle say hello to Hull.

6:30:296:30:31

And try and try again - all the best

6:30:326:30:34

and the rest of the action from Round Two.

6:30:346:30:36

Super League was once again breaking new ground in Round Two.

6:30:426:30:45

Last week, Salford christened their new home and on Friday,

6:30:456:30:49

they were the guests as St Helens celebrated

6:30:496:30:51

the first competitive fixture at Langtree Park.

6:30:516:30:54

They came from far and wide to witness the occasion,

6:30:546:30:57

including one of the club's greatest ever players.

6:30:576:31:00

CHEERING DROWNS COMMENTARY

6:31:006:31:02

Vollenhoven!

6:31:056:31:07

Vollenhoven outside!

6:31:076:31:08

He gives it to Vollenhoven.

6:31:116:31:14

And Vollenhoven loops behind for a sensational try!

6:31:146:31:17

It really is one of the nicest stadiums I've seen,

6:31:216:31:24

and the decor and everything inside -

6:31:246:31:26

the ladies' toilets is out of this world!

6:31:266:31:28

No lady can say, "Oh, I've been in the queue so long!"

6:31:286:31:31

The players, the spectators,

6:31:316:31:33

the whole of St Helens can be proud of this stadium.

6:31:336:31:36

But what of Knowsley Road?

6:31:396:31:41

St Helens' famous old ground has been demolished and is now just a building site,

6:31:416:31:45

with new houses being erected on the spot

6:31:456:31:47

that witnessed some of rugby league's greatest ever moments.

6:31:476:31:50

Would you believe it?

6:31:506:31:53

You'd better believe it! This is St Helens!

6:31:536:31:57

Very sad. Look, there's a lot of memories there.

6:31:576:31:59

A lot of memories over 120 years.

6:31:596:32:01

But that's in the past. We must look forward, and this is the future.

6:32:016:32:06

So the first footsteps into the future for St Helens.

6:32:096:32:13

Tom Van Vollenhoven and the other Saints legends

6:32:136:32:15

adding a touch of class to the grand opening night.

6:32:156:32:18

They're hoping this will be a night to remember.

6:32:186:32:21

All except one ex-Saint -

6:32:216:32:23

the current Salford coach, Phil Veivers.

6:32:236:32:25

-Here's Howarth.

-Go, two.

6:32:286:32:30

Anxious to get on with it here, from dummy half Matty Smith,

6:32:306:32:32

another of those who once plied his trade at St Helens.

6:32:326:32:35

Good hands here along the line. Joel Moon. Good offload for Broughton!

6:32:356:32:40

Jodie Broughton! Party pooped!

6:32:406:32:42

Salford with the first try at this new stadium.

6:32:426:32:46

It's a good one, too.

6:32:466:32:49

An excellent finish by Jodie Broughton.

6:32:496:32:51

Salford have the lead, against all expectations.

6:32:546:32:59

Ooh, that's a big hit by Danny Williams.

6:33:006:33:04

Chris Flannery would not have expected that.

6:33:046:33:08

Terrific strike by the winger.

6:33:086:33:10

Salford mean business here tonight.

6:33:126:33:13

Despite the fact the script suggests St Helens should have the victory.

6:33:156:33:18

But here comes Williams again. Little kick. Touched down by Ashley Gibson!

6:33:186:33:23

It's great play by Williams to keep his head and put the kick in.

6:33:246:33:28

Gibson follows up. Two tries for Salford.

6:33:286:33:32

St Helens on the rack.

6:33:326:33:35

Go.

6:33:356:33:37

Roby.

6:33:376:33:38

St Helens looking out wide through Meli.

6:33:406:33:43

Again, it was a big hit from the shoulder of Williams, but Meli bouncing off him.

6:33:436:33:49

This is Josh Perry.

6:33:496:33:50

That's a terrific offload if they're waiting for it, and they are.

6:33:506:33:54

Eventually. Lomax.

6:33:546:33:57

Trying to fiddle a way through.

6:33:576:33:59

St Helens getting closer. The noise is getting louder.

6:33:596:34:03

Roby.

6:34:046:34:06

Soliola. Three around him. Soliola's over.

6:34:066:34:10

CHEERING Well, has he got it down here?

6:34:106:34:13

WHISTLE

6:34:136:34:14

Certainly Richard Silverwood's not sure.

6:34:146:34:16

The video referee has a look.

6:34:166:34:18

Well, it's not conclusive.

6:34:186:34:21

It's not conclusive, one way or another.

6:34:216:34:24

And the try is given as a benefit of the doubt.

6:34:276:34:31

And they can barely believe it in the Salford trenches.

6:34:316:34:35

Two! Move once!

6:34:376:34:39

On the line!

6:34:396:34:40

That's how close they are.

6:34:406:34:42

Here's Howarth.

6:34:426:34:43

Matty Smith. Quick hands again. Here comes a chance for Gibson!

6:34:436:34:47

Had two wrapped around him, but did he still get it down?

6:34:496:34:52

Well, having seen one try given in the benefit of the doubt,

6:34:536:34:57

are we to see another one here?

6:34:576:34:59

Although it's good work by Dixon to get his hands on that ball,

6:34:596:35:02

was it touched down?

6:35:026:35:04

No gamble.

6:35:046:35:05

"No gamble," says the referee. "No try," says the video referee.

6:35:056:35:09

I think that's known as an ironic smile.

6:35:096:35:11

Third tackle.

6:35:126:35:13

Down the line. Don't be offside, four!

6:35:136:35:16

-Go!

-Here's Roby.

6:35:166:35:17

Spinning it back to Lomax again.

6:35:186:35:20

Salford quick off their line,

6:35:206:35:22

which means that Wilkin has to take the tackle and start from here.

6:35:226:35:26

Here's Roby on the sixth.

6:35:276:35:30

Sliding the kick through for the chaser, Dixon.

6:35:306:35:33

Picked up again by Roby!

6:35:336:35:36

WHISTLE

6:35:366:35:37

Couple of questions to be asked here.

6:35:376:35:40

I want to check the grounding. OK?

6:35:406:35:43

Checking the grounding and the obstruction,

6:35:436:35:46

but if this is grounded, it doesn't matter about the obstruction.

6:35:466:35:49

Did it hit the ground there?

6:35:496:35:51

That's the question. Is that the moment?

6:35:516:35:53

Have a look again.

6:35:556:35:56

Is THIS the moment when the ball touches the green grass THERE?

6:35:566:36:00

Ian Smith with a decision to make.

6:36:026:36:04

And, once again, it goes St Helens' way.

6:36:046:36:08

Here's Makinson.

6:36:126:36:13

A little bit untidy but picked up nicely by Lomax.

6:36:156:36:18

The chip over the top...collected by Gaskell. Dixon on the inside.

6:36:186:36:22

Went on the outside. Here comes Meli!

6:36:226:36:24

Francis Meli scores!

6:36:246:36:27

But, inevitably, we'll have to look again.

6:36:276:36:30

Just want to check and see if Gaskell...

6:36:306:36:32

Was Gaskell offside or on?

6:36:326:36:34

Here.

6:36:346:36:36

And he's quite clearly behind Lomax.

6:36:366:36:39

So this try WILL be given.

6:36:396:36:41

And St Helens have the lead for the first time

6:36:416:36:45

in their new Langtree Park stadium.

6:36:456:36:48

A lot of that down to the skills of Gaskell and the finishing of Meli.

6:36:486:36:52

Move. Back ten.

6:36:526:36:55

Here's Roby.

6:36:556:36:57

Up and away again from Hohaia.

6:36:576:37:00

Into the hands of Dixon. Andy Dixon!

6:37:006:37:04

Fourth try for St Helens and it's beginning to look a lot easier now.

6:37:046:37:08

Not so much pomp in the first half, but a little more in the second.

6:37:086:37:14

And there's one former Saint, Sean Long, who's not enjoying the moment.

6:37:146:37:18

These days the assistant coach of the Salford City Reds.

6:37:186:37:22

Lomax, quick hands, Wilkin!

6:37:246:37:27

The youngsters have had a go, and now the relative old-timers

6:37:276:37:31

are getting their names in lights as well.

6:37:316:37:34

Jon Wilkin, over for a fifth.

6:37:346:37:36

And where once it was hard, it's becoming a lot easier for St Helens.

6:37:366:37:41

Glee has turned to glum amongst the Salford camp.

6:37:416:37:45

Hold, go.

6:37:456:37:46

Roby...Lomax.

6:37:466:37:49

Looking for an individual finish.

6:37:496:37:52

Release him.

6:37:526:37:54

Just held up. And here comes Roby.

6:37:546:37:57

Spinning away. Again, a little kick through...

6:37:576:38:01

to perfection for Andy Dixon.

6:38:016:38:05

And a second try for the St Helens youngster.

6:38:056:38:08

Six now. Here's Roby.

6:38:106:38:13

A matter of seconds remaining.

6:38:136:38:16

Well, it went backwards, the referee's decided.

6:38:166:38:19

Here's another of the youngsters, Nathan Ashe,

6:38:196:38:22

getting a cameo role in the late stages of this second half.

6:38:226:38:25

Roby, Laffranchi...

6:38:256:38:26

Well, again, it's a little messy. The referee will need another look.

6:38:266:38:31

But one angle suggests he's definitely grounded it here.

6:38:316:38:35

And he has.

6:38:356:38:38

A try at the very last for St Helens.

6:38:386:38:41

Don't mess around in the ruck, come on.

6:38:416:38:43

The video referee will confirm it.

6:38:436:38:46

And St Helens ultimately get a jubilant start at their new stadium.

6:38:466:38:51

Is it home sweet home for you already, Jon?

6:38:546:38:57

Well, it's getting there.

6:38:576:38:58

I think it'll be a long time before we're well and truly settled in.

6:38:586:39:03

It was a fantastic occasion for the club.

6:39:036:39:06

I'm proud to be have been part of it as a player,

6:39:066:39:08

especially to have all those past players

6:39:086:39:11

and the greats of our club there as well

6:39:116:39:14

to celebrate the opening of the new stadium.

6:39:146:39:16

Roy Simmons said that maybe you were affected

6:39:166:39:19

by the build-up and occasion in the first half.

6:39:196:39:21

It was pretty emotional, seeing the likes of Tom van Vollenhoven there.

6:39:216:39:26

It just reminds you that you're part of something more than just a current team of Super League players,

6:39:266:39:32

that the club's history is so important.

6:39:326:39:34

I think we probably did get caught up in that nostalgia really,

6:39:346:39:38

and credit Salford, they started the game very well

6:39:386:39:42

and completed their sets and really put us under pressure early doors.

6:39:426:39:46

What was said at half-time? Roy Simmons strikes me as a quiet chap.

6:39:466:39:51

-Does he throw things around after a first half like that?

-No, he's pretty reserved.

6:39:516:39:55

He just comes through a few individuals.

6:39:556:39:58

He had a message for everyone, then it's more individuals,

6:39:586:40:02

get to the people he needs to speak to, and it was pretty simple for us.

6:40:026:40:06

Get to the end of our sets, complete our sets.

6:40:066:40:08

Our ball control was terrible in the first half. The message was simple.

6:40:086:40:12

We did that in the second half and you saw the results

6:40:126:40:15

-in a good second-half performance.

-It was quite apt,

6:40:156:40:18

a night of legends in the build-up.

6:40:186:40:21

You've got some cracking youngsters coming through, a new generation at St Helens.

6:40:216:40:25

Saints have been fantastic in their development of young players.

6:40:256:40:28

All the time I've been there. Players like Gary Wheeler.

6:40:286:40:32

You see products of the academy system who come in,

6:40:326:40:36

not just to make up the numbers, but they contribute to the game.

6:40:366:40:40

Gary Wheeler came up with a few little breaks

6:40:406:40:43

during the match

6:40:436:40:45

and looked every part the great player he promises to be.

6:40:456:40:49

For us, it's great to see the young players coming in,

6:40:496:40:53

the young local lads,

6:40:536:40:55

and really contributing to the side on a historic night for the club.

6:40:556:40:59

They were an integral part to us winning this game.

6:40:596:41:03

Especially Jonny Lomax, I think. He's been sensational for us.

6:41:036:41:07

How do you cope with being referred to as a relative veteran?

6:41:076:41:11

I just wince every day after training.

6:41:116:41:13

What's it like, Pat, as you're watching?

6:41:136:41:16

You've got a crop of youngsters at Wigan. What does it do to the side?

6:41:166:41:20

They come with a lot of enthusiasm. We had another bloke, Jack Hughes,

6:41:206:41:25

he came in the other night, and Tom Spencer made his debut too.

6:41:256:41:29

It's great to see kids going from

6:41:296:41:31

being in the academy and first grade,

6:41:316:41:33

then getting an opportunity and taking it with both hands.

6:41:336:41:37

As Jon said, it's not use just plodding along,

6:41:376:41:40

they're making a big impact into the game.

6:41:406:41:43

At St Helens and Wigan, we're lucky, we've got some great juniors

6:41:436:41:47

starting to come through into the first grade.

6:41:476:41:50

The video referee had a busy night. What did we make of the Soliola try that was given?

6:41:506:41:55

Were you with the video... Have you watched that?

6:41:556:41:59

Did you think he was going to give it, Jon?

6:41:596:42:01

It's very difficult. You can't tell whether the ball's down or not.

6:42:016:42:06

This is where the benefit of the doubt comes in.

6:42:066:42:09

Phil Beevor's face says it all - he was not impressed.

6:42:096:42:12

In those situations, 50/50 calls,

6:42:126:42:13

when you're on the field, you always assume they'll go your way,

6:42:136:42:16

so you're always upset and Phil's just showing how much he cares there.

6:42:166:42:20

Yeah, there was a lot of crucial decisions and we did get a few,

6:42:206:42:24

but through the season, they do even themselves out.

6:42:246:42:28

Tony Smith said, after his game last week, that there should be video referees at all matches.

6:42:286:42:33

We seem a long way from that,

6:42:336:42:35

but is it unfair on the guys playing without the video referees?

6:42:356:42:38

It would be an even competition if that was the case in every game.

6:42:386:42:43

They have it in Australia, every game is televised,

6:42:436:42:46

so maybe that's something we can look at in the future.

6:42:466:42:49

Every game's worth two competition points,

6:42:496:42:51

so it should be treated that way

6:42:516:42:53

and it would be great to see it in every game.

6:42:536:42:56

The "under new management" signs were up in Hull over the winter,

6:42:566:43:00

as its two Super League clubs appoint new head coaches.

6:43:006:43:04

Craig Sandercock and Peter Gentle have travelled halfway round the world

6:43:046:43:08

to take charge on either side of the city.

6:43:086:43:10

Here's what happened when east met west.

6:43:106:43:13

-How are you settling in, Craig?

-Yeah, good, Pete.

6:43:186:43:21

It's good living in Hull, the people have been fantastic,

6:43:216:43:24

everyone's very supportive, so at the moment I couldn't be happier.

6:43:246:43:28

It's a long way to come, that's for sure, and it's a big decision

6:43:286:43:32

because I did sign a new deal with Newcastle, but you know,

6:43:326:43:37

there's only 30 real professional rugby league teams in the world,

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and to be offered a head coach, you'd be silly to turn it down.

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And yourself? You were pretty comfortable at the Tiges.

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Yeah, I was. It was a big upheaval for the family, as you're well aware,

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to relocate. Super League head coach was always on my radar.

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And I've been fortunate to pick up a role.

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I heard you had the pick of ten clubs, mate, so you've done well.

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Don't believe everything you read!

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Horne out to dummy half. Pass to Lynch, numbers on this side.

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Manu, Yeaman will score. First try for the black and whites.

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First one on the board this season.

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Which players in the Super League really stand out to you,

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and when we coach against them, we have to look out for?

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Sam Tomkins is the first that comes to mind.

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He's a special sort of player, isn't he?

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But we'll be worrying about ourselves

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and we'll do plenty of homework on Sam Tomkins in the game,

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and hopefully we can nullify him.

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Any tips you can throw my way, mate?

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Hopefully, you play him before we do.

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Who are you looking forward to playing?

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Growing up, you know, I grew up on the Wigan and the Hull

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and Peter Sterling, Brett Kenny and those top players.

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So I'm just excited about actually being involved

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-in playing those sides.

-Yeah, definitely.

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What do you think of the rivalry between our two great clubs?

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It's massive, isn't it?

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From the fans' point of view, it's massive.

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From our point of view, as you'll be aware,

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we're just interested in winning each game,

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picking up two points from whoever we can.

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Probably winning a derby game is a bonus more than anything,

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but it's not something we put extra work in each week

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-to win the derby game.

-Exactly right.

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The two competition points are the most crucial

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and every week you prepare the same, to play every team the same,

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but obviously for our supporters

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-it probably means a lot more.

-It certainly does.

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What are your expectations for Hull RFC this season, mate?

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We're not going to put a number on it. As I mentioned,

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too many variables go into it - suspensions, injuries,

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form - there's plenty of things there.

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The stars have to be all aligned to give one a special season.

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There's plenty of potential there and if we can realise that,

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we'll be thereabouts come the end of the season. How about yourself?

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Yeah, pretty similar, I imagine.

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It's all about, er...individual improvement.

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I think if we can get every player in your team to improve,

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whether they're the youngest kid or the most experienced player,

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then as a team you'll get some results.

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If you want to compete against those big four or five clubs,

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you really need to focus

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-on that individual improvement.

-Yeah, definitely.

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Jon, as a Hull lad, do you think they have a little bit to learn about the Hull derby?

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I'm sure they'll find out very soon

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about how important it is to the people of area.

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It's everything that a derby should be.

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You know, it's fiercely competitive and the rivalry exists in the city,

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pretty much divided by the River Hull.

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It's as strong today as it ever has been.

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Pat, Hull FC went to play Catalan Dragons, and that game was off.

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Somewhat ironic that all the games here managed to go on.

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In the South of France we couldn't.

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It's not a trip you want to do twice, is it?

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Yeah, it'll be an interesting one to get rearranged.

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We had one last year against Cas, but they're only an hour away.

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So it wasn't too bad. I feel sorry for all the fans that went over.

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They'll have to go over again. I'm not sure how that'll work.

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It'll be interesting to see how they fit it in.

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Hull KR went to Wakefield on Sunday, a first win for Craig Sandercock.

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Important for the new coach, Pat, to get that first win.

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Yeah, it was. We played them in a trial match a couple of weeks ago

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and I think he's done a great job with the team.

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I was speaking to Benny Galea.

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He's happy with how things are going there.

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They're looking forward to it

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and this will give them confidence going into the season now,

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so hopefully they'll kick on and start the season well.

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Looking at the pictures, they did a great job to get the game on,

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but it's like winding back the clock to winter rugby in all its glory.

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Yeah, it is. I think everyone would prefer to see

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the game played in great conditions, but this time of the year

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it's very rare that you get to play on a good surface.

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I think both sides did well in the conditions.

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Crucially, more so for us, going in to this week's game,

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is that Hull KR picked up another injury in the halfs with Dobson.

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I think he's crucial for Hull KR.

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His kicking game, his organisation, is second to none.

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Without him and Green, that's the challenge for Hull KR,

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coming up with players who can play in that position.

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The other Sunday game was Castleford against Bradford

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and a big win for Mick Potter and Bradford.

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Yeah, massive. They're under a bit of pressure.

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One game in, it seems strange to say that,

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but I suppose they have produced a great performance to get the win.

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I think they're going to be a side that's one to watch, for me.

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They'll certainly have aspirations to make those play-offs.

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Both these sides will. But it was a difficult day for Castleford

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who'd have expected to win this game at home.

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Castleford are a real flair side, they play some lovely stuff,

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but how crucial Rangi Chase to them? It seems so much goes through him.

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Rangi's the spark to their team and a lot of stuff happens off him.

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They've got other quality players in their side as well.

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Rangi sets up a great try here coming up.

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We've got them in a couple of weeks...

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This is beautiful. That try's fabulous, isn't it?

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It's great to watch him and it'll bring the fans in to the game.

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Especially this time of year, the skill factor,

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it's hard to play with skill, with the ball being so wet and cold,

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-but Rangi's doing a good job.

-So, that's Round Two, done and dusted.

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Let's see where everyone stands in the Stobart Super League table.

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Huddersfield and St Helens lead the way with their 100% records

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after two fixtures.

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Warrington, Catalan and Hull are the other unbeaten sides.

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Leeds Rhinos take on Manly in the World Club Challenge on Friday.

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Warrington against Huddersfield is the stand-out fixture of round 3.

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Wigan go to Bradford

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and St Helens travel to Hull KR.

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Remember, you don't have to wait until the fixtures move in May

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to get a Monday night fix of rugby league.

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We'll be here, same time next week, with all the action from Round 3.

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Pat, how do you see the World Club Challenge going?

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Yeah, it's always a tough sort of game.

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Last year was a tough game against St George.

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Leeds have been involved in a few in the last couple of years.

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You know, I'm not too sure how, er...you know,

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cos the season starts a bit later in Australia,

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but how the Australians adapt to the conditions over here as well.

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So I think it'll be pretty tight.

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It should be a good game I'm looking forward to it.

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Jon, the new players' association.

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A new union. What's the thinking behind it?

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What do you hope to achieve?

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We just wanted to start an organisation

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that was for the players, run by the players,

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to represent their welfare at all levels of the game.

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And really give the players a voice and make them an integral part of the growth of the sport.

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The players have great ideas on the game

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and some of the senior boys certainly want to be involved in the growth of the game.

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League 13, as it stands now, gives the players a chance to do that,

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to voice their opinions and have them heard

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by other key stakeholders in the game. And just encourage all the boys

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to get on board and support it and get behind it and make it work.

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Good luck with it. Thanks to Pat Richards and Jon Wilkin

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for being with us tonight. Keep in touch throughout the week via Facebook and Twitter.

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Join us next week for highlights from the Club World Challenge match at Headingley

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and all the action from Round Three of Super League.

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That's next Monday night, 11.35, on BBC1. Until then, good night.

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