06/03/2017 Super League Show


06/03/2017

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We've made it to round three of the Super League season.

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But we had some big scores and a big comeback.

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Ringside for round three are Ashton Sims

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The full house signs were up at the Jungle on Thursday

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as the early leaders, Castleford, took on Leeds.

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Ten years ago, the Tigers were promoted from the championship.

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COMMENTATOR: Castlemen are back and it's party time for the Tigers.

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COMMENTATOR: And Castleford have won it!

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He's playing a different game to everyone else.

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It's a night when Leeds know they will need to perform

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The locals have been looking forward to this for an awful long time.

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Castleford Tigers in red-hot form against their big city rivals

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And the noise provided a full house is deafening.

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Springer trying to force his way over by that Leeds defence.

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Is there in numbers and with some enthusiasm.

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You can see Danny McGuire desperate to get numbers across there,

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because Castleford have those numbers, and they are

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Hardaker delays the pass, and gets it away for Greg Eden

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to score the first try with only three minutes played.

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A tap restart, and another six tackles to have a go here.

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Andy Lynch is a very nearly over the line.

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Over the top, and Minikin will finish.

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Castleford have started in electrifying fashion.

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Looking to get up and go here as quickly as they possibly can.

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They need a response here, but not like that, they've lost it,

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He feeds it to Eden, who is going to take

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them all on the outside, and brushes away Handley.

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Hardaker is eventually going to be hauled in and put down.

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But all the momentum is with Castleford here,

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Offside against those Leeds defenders.

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Milner's having a glance to see where the numbers might be.

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He's going to bring it wide right, and this is where the numbers are!

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Given the space, it still took some finishing.

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But Minikin has his second of the night.

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McShane has just taken it away from Ashton Golding.

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It's all going Castleford's way at the moment.

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Up to that 20 metre mark in very quick time here.

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And we have barely played 23 minutes of the game.

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Gale is trying to make things happen down the left-hand side.

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Again, it's brought in by Sene-Lefao.

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Shenton eager to keep things going here.

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Castleford just seem to offer a threat every time

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Half an hour played, and Castleford absolutely

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Webster's quick antics, back to Minikin.

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Might have scored himself, but saw that McMeeken

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Well, Leeds, I'm sure, will be anxious for the hooter

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to sound so they can regroup and prepare themselves

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for a second-half, because Castleford absolutely

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Junior Moors is the latest to push through the defence.

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Skips around the full-back, kicks it towards his right hand side.

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Minikin is there, and Greg Minikin completes a first-half hat-trick.

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Castleford complete a first half tearaway.

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Well, the penalty has given them a chance to kick for goal,

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but they are never going to kick for goal in a million years

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They are going to keep on flowing, and keep on smiling,

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the way they are playing at the moment.

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And one of those is Zak Hardaker against his parent club,

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Some honest endeavour down the middle.

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Milner picks it up and keeps it going, and now a big driven

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They've got plenty of grunt down the middle,

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haven't they, Castleford, as well as the flare out wide.

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McShane with a step back on the inside, and two tries

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The Castleford fans are loving this tonight.

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It's going to be a kick here, and a test.

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Leeds just need something here to lift their spirits.

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The ball bounces off the chest, rolls around,

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REFEREE: Right, I've got a zero tackle.

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The referee giving the try, but check the grounding,

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Lovely piece of footwork here from Anthony Mullally,

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He's the man who get hands on ball to score Leeds'

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The Leeds fans celebrate as though it were a matchwinner.

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Hardaker dealt with this time by the Leeds defenders.

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Shenton taking over the duties of acting half.

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Flick pass away for Webster to charge over.

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Lynch edging forward to the left, but it's

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gone right to McShane, who drops it back on the inside for

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Massey has the ball pinned to his arms.

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Gale again providing something, Hardaker with the pass

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Both winners both scoring hat tricks, and Castleford

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Eden is away on this left-hand side, has support here.

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Gale will run away to put his name on the try scoring list.

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Now in support he scores the try, and they can score from anywhere.

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You can see Gale talking to his backs about what might

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A little skip from him, away to Shenton.

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And Michael Shenton has just joined the party.

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And they do have an opportunity here with the overlap.

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And Joel Moon will score a late consolation for Leeds.

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But a game long since won by the razzle-dazzle of Castleford.

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12 tries for them on the night, and a record Super League defeat

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The whole place will be erupting with excitement very soon.

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Ashton Golding might provide something special at the end.

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Well, what a night for the Castleford Tigers.

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66-10 against their bitterest rivals.

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They are in some style at the moment.

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Obviously you guys played Castleford last week.

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Yes, obviously we had a taste of them the week before.

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We got to see first-hand how they are playing this year,

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and they are playing with a real air of confidence.

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Even in these muddy conditions, you saw a few of those

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Long-range, short range, offloads, finding the right pass at the end,

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How impressed are you at how well they are playing

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just three games in, and it is quite a new team,

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Yes, the noise in pre-season coming out of Castleford

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was they were going to take the league by storm with the brand

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They have been outstanding, their first three games.

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It's almost like tour rugby, everybody's expecting to get

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the ball, and everybody's expecting to play on every plane.

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You can see that by the amount of points that they've scored,

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and I thought they were absolutely outstanding against Leeds.

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Leeds were very disappointing, but don't take anything

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Because we have two big eyes, we thought we should also

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Obviously the backs are getting huge rap, and the winners

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scoring loads of tries, but how important are the pack to

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If you have a look here, Springer's offload to another front

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row, and Andy Lynch, one of the oldest guys

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in the competition, making a clean break.

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You've got to love that, seeing the forwards play with each

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other, and tell you what, as a defender, it's

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And I think the criticism you could level Castleford last year

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was that perhaps they didn't have that all the time, and particularly

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when Andy Lynch was injured, you didn't have that go forward,

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but I thought physically they just dominated Leeds and allowed

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the back is space to play and execute very well.

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Is that the key, that they are creating the space, the forwards?

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Yes, they did, I thought they had Leeds on the back foot all night.

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I thought they ran harder and were more effective

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The Leeds forwards sometimes get four men into a tackle,

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but they are not pulling down the Castleford forwards, they were

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It is hard to pick out a winger, because obviously both

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of them scored hat tricks, but Greg Eden, how

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Obviously he's very new into the system for them.

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Particularly if you are Wayne Bennett, who knows him well,

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are you looking at that and thinking, maybe

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Obviously he played well, he was there for a couple of years.

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I think it was Nathan Brown who had a lot of raps on him coming

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over to the Broncos, but this year, the way

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he's started, I think the Castleford fans must be...

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They were pretty bitter about the Solomona exit,

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but I tell you what, with guys like Minikin

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and Eden coming back in, not only do they score these

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wonderful tries, but they set up a couple on the weekend, too.

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And he's linking up really well with Zak Hardaker, isn't he?

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He's talking about the fact that he's happy.

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He's playing with a smile on his face.

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How you seeing his game develop while he's Castleford?

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I think Zak carrying the ball is back to how

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he was in 2015 when he won the man of steel, breaking tackles.

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He's got that determination about him where he just wants to win

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games, but I think he has added to his game.

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I was at the England training session last Monday

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and he was putting balls, passing balls that I've

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not seen him do before, which he has had to add to his game

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and I think that is one of Darryl's great skills as a coach,

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the ability to upskill the players he brings into his side

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I think that's a great sign for full-back too,

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is one you can pick the right side, but two you can also play

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at the back at full speed but then have the mindset to steady up.

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Bring defenders into you, and find the pass, either fit the winger,

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the centre or the winger, the way he started I think

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the Castleford fans must be pretty happy.

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Gary Hetherington has put an open letter out of the fans today.

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Amongst it, he says, "This month is an important one

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with games against Catalan, Wakefield, Huddersfield, and Wigan.

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At its end, we will be in a much better position to make an accurate

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judgment on the performance of all our players,

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coaching staff and senior management including myself."

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What do you make of him saying that?

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I think he is stopping knee jerk reactions.

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We have got to remember we are four rounds into Super League and I think

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that letter and the tone of that letter is yes, we understand

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some things aren't right, the performance was humiliating,

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it's not where we want to be, but give us another four weeks.

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Let's get nearly to Easter and judge us then when we have had time

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to perhaps get our full squad out on the pitch and we have had two

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Do you feel though that possibly for the first time,

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despite what happened last year, that Brian McDermott's position

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I think Brian is the right man for the job.

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If I would have been a Leeds fan, if it had been Leeds at home, full

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strength squad against Castleford and you got beat by that many

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But if it was Leeds away at Castleford, missing eight or nine

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regular players in a derby that Castleford were waiting for,

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I reckon Castleford targeted that game in pre-season and thought,

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we will try and embarrass the Rhinos here.

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Last year's meeting between Salford and Warrington went right down

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to the wire as Chris Sandow kicked the winning point

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They met again on Saturday, no Sandow anymore, but watching

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COMMENTATOR: Smart move from Salford.

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O'Brien slips a gap, gets away, and he's put down just short

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They are going to get Sa'u in at the corner!

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Flicks the ball away, a lovely little pass to Declan Patton.

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He shrugs off Gareth O'Brien and touches down.

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It is flicked away, picked up by Griffin.

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He will skirt the line here, looking for a gap may be.

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Hughes takes it beautifully, he's going to rumble

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Again, switched the point of the attack, and it's Griffin

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causing all sorts of problems on this left edge for Salford.

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He's put that one down over the back of his head.

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So much asked of him in guiding this Warrington side around the field.

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Patton manages to smuggle the ball away.

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Gidley looms the pass out to Johnson!

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Jack Johnson, really fine try for Warrington.

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Tomkins is there, Salford in full flow.

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O'Brien from the tee, and he keeps up this

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They are lining up the big men on this left-hand side.

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The ball will come out the back to Lui, onto Dobson.

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Slides in a kick, Sa'u will get there.

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That's a great finish, just before the line!

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Tomkins comes back to this left edge, where Mossop

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The ball has come loose and it has been stripped, says Jack Smith.

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O'Brien to finish it off, Warrington still without a win.

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At this stage of the year, I think you're going to get some

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I'm not making excuses for any of us about the standard of rugby league.

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We all go in underdone at this time of the year

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because we have such long seasons, and so I don't think you necessarily

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can determine who is going to win the competition in the first few

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weeks, and I don't think you're going to necessarily pick

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who is going to come last in the comp either in

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It was a great response from the Leeds game.

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We spoke earlier in the week about the kind of things

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we could control and the grit and determination we have shown

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today again against a few rough calls, I felt,

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Is the way we came through that and we have come

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through the other side, that was pleasing as a group

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We will get to Warrington in a minute, but how impressed

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were you with Salford and the solidity that

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Yes, they have bounced back really strong for the million pound match.

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I think guys like O'Brien and Junior Sa'u, they have big games

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for Salford on the weekend and I can see them doing really

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Salford obviously are up against Hull KR in that million

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pound game, don't want to bring it back for you too much,

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but how much is that motivating them, do you think,

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Well, anybody who was involved in that game will probably never

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want to be involved in it again, I'm sure.

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Let's remember, if it hadn't been for the previous year

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caps deduction, they wouldn't have even been

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in the bottom four and they wouldn't have been in the middle eight.

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They are a better side than the position said last year.

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But do you think it has brought them together as a unit because the core

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I think bad experiences and good experiences bring

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I think going through that experience would have done.

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They are always going to be a tough side to beat,

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they were a tough side to beat last year and have just brought up

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And so to you guys, yet to win in Super League.

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It seems amazing to those of us who saw you absolutely hammer

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Yes, I know, a few weeks ago we probably played one

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of the better games I have probably been involved with at Warrington

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but I can tell you right now that there is no lack

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of confidence or deflation around the club.

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We did our video, we copped our medicine yesterday

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We have got probably one of the competition's strongest

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teams coming to our home ground this weekend.

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Is that the kind of game you think maybe you need, in that Wigan,

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the focus on Brisbane was so big for you that maybe you have dipped

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off and maybe Wigan coming to the Grand Final is what you need?

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Yes, well we have had some really tough battles

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with Wigan over the years, especially the couple

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of years I have been here, obviously the Grand Final.

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I think once you get back to your home ground,

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it gives you a lift anyway but against a local rival

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like Wigan, I think they are definitely going to be up

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for it and we are going to be up for it big time, so come Thursday

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So, what were you picking out that video?

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Without going too much into it, I know there are handling errors

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at times and penalties at times, but take nothing away from Salford,

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I thought they were clinical and they took their half chances.

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We have got two days to prepare for one of the biggest

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matches of the year, which is Wigan at home.

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And how important to get that first win in Super League?

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Because it can't be nice sitting at the bottom.

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No, it's not great, is not a great feeling.

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With the squad we have got in, you know, every team has got

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We've got a couple of injuries but we are certainly

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With the team we have got out there, we shouldn't the bottom,

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We are fighters over there at Warrington,

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For once the weather in the south of France made us

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all happy to stay at home - it was a rainy afternoon

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in Perpignan for the visit of Widnes Jamie, and Catalans have

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They were looking like they were on course to do

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the same when they go out in front through Williams.

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Terrible conditions, you don't often get that at Catalans,

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but you have got to give Widnes credit for getting

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To go 14-0 down, this is a bit of a fortuitous try

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Nice footballing skills, he's shown those before, hasn't he?

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Yes, he has got that ability about him.

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He was playing well at the start of the year.

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I think him and Walsh are good for the side.

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Yes, we had them in Round 1 and they just seem like we were

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talking about before, the real perfect

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Both got a great kicking game so I don't know

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And defensively they seem to be playing more as a unit perhaps maybe

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New guys in there like Sam Moa and Greg Bird have got

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It may have given them some kind of defensive lift, I'm not sure,

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but the way they are playing at the moment, you know,

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the big mobile pack and I think they will do really well as well.

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Widnes did well to come back into this, and how important

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for them after the start of the season they've had.

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I think it's outstanding from Widnes to come back into this.

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From 14-0 in these conditions to come back and outscore them.

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A little bit of luck there for them, but if you notice all of the Widnes

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tries come off in and around the acting half.

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They have had to change how they are going to play this year

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because they've lost Kevin Brown to Warrington, then they have lost

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Mellor, lost Gilmot, all the half-backs so the key

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for them now is in and around the hooker role.

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And I think if you had asked Widnes when they were 14-0 down,

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would you have a point, they would say yes, but at full

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Or only kicked one and scored three tries.

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They will say it is probably a point lost in the end

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And confidence wise, what can this do for them?

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Everyone has been tipping them to finish bottom and they have gone

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to a team that is undefeated, been 14-0 down, come back

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into the game, outscore them three tries to come away with a point.

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I think it is great for Widnes they have been able to do that.

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They are going to need that confidence because they

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They certainly do, they will be tested there.

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The Fourth Round draw for the Challenge Cup paired

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Bradford with Featherstone, and that tie will bring

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back memories of their semifinal meeting in 1983.

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It was a match that saw the try of season.

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I'll let the late David Coleman reveal the winner.

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Just right now I want to come to the result of the Rugby league

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You will remember we showed you seven of the season's best tries

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and I asked you to nominate the top three in order of preference.

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Our judges were very French and Alex Murphy,

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our Rugby League Cup final commentators, and your selection had

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Well now here they are in reverse order.

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In third place was try B scored by Ian Robinson

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In second place was try G scored by James Leuluai for Hull,

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when they beat Castleford to reach the Challenge Cup final.

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COMMENTATOR: Beautiful change of pace!

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And in first place, try F, scored by Ellery Hanley

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for Bradford Northern in the first semifinal of the Challenge Cup.

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Goodness gracious me, this could be the try of the season!

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And the first correct postcard out of a massive entry

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was from Mr H Bagley of Illingworth, Halifax in West Yorkshire.

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Well, Mr Bagley is our guest today at the Challenge Cup final,

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with his wife he supports Halifax but he would love to see

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He has been to Wembley a couple of times before, a long time ago,

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Yes, any player in and around my age, he was their idol.

:27:58.:28:08.

I remember watching him, he was a fantastic player,

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Obviously for me I was a Leeds Rhinos supporter

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and when he came to Leeds he was a top try scorer.

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Changed the way forwards played, was always supporting on the inside.

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I have been fortunate enough to meet him a few times.

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It's not very often you get to meet your idol.

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The performance of Marc Sneyd during Hull's defeat against Catalan

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last week had plenty of people talking, not least the former

:28:33.:28:34.

Great Britain international Gary Schofield, who said he'd want

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Sneyd and Hull were back on the field in Huddersfield.

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Hull arrived at the John Smith stadium with a record of won one,

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lost one with just three tries in their opening two games.

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Danny Brough was making his 200th appearance for the Giants,

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but with 13 players unavailable for the home side,

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COMMENTATOR: Sneyd is away on the far side,

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Brian Hinchcliffe, oh he has passed the ball straight to Sneyd,

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Houghton again, this time he will fling it back

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Kelly goes himself, wonderful, it is great stuff from Kelly.

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Sees Sneyd, Sneyd towards the line, and Sneyd with a try.

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Wonderful stuff, and Kelly is in for his second.

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Here comes Sneyd, good pass out to Talanoa.

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Talanoa is one-on-one, he's got Griffin in support.

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Griffin is in, and Griffin will ground the ball,

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Sam Wood is in for Huddersfield Giants.

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More speculative, and Kelly will get it.

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Surely Griffin has a chance to stretch away.

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STUDIO: A resounding 40 point margin of victory for Hull.

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28 points for Marc Sneyd, and happy head coach.

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This time of year is just about trying to

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build a bit of fluency with the ball.

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And hopefully tonight will go towards doing that, I think, and you

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will see a little bit better from us against St Helens next week.

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We had a lot of players obviously didn't

:31:25.:31:26.

play today, but we didn't make things easy for ourselves.

:31:27.:31:28.

We probably handed for five tries on a

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platter to Hull, so it was not great.

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We have a lot of players that are young and inexperienced out

:31:33.:31:35.

there, there were some real basic errors and fundamental errors that

:31:36.:31:38.

Have you scored many try hat-tricks in your career?

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That's my first one, so I'm happy with that.

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There has been a lot of talk, certain comments that

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Has that had any effect on you at all?

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I think it has bothered the people around me more than it's

:31:53.:31:56.

I couldn't care less, I'll be honest with you.

:31:57.:32:04.

Pleased for Marc, obviously, he has come through a bit

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And it wasn't his best performance last

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week by any stretch, but like all good players,

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You know, in the best possible way, and that is scoring a

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hat-trick and kicking obviously Huddersfield

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to death, so that is a

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I have little doubt that Garry Schofield

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will take the credit for

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Do the players take any notice at all of

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I think Gary's got an overinflated sense of

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his own importance over whether he motivated Marc Sneyd.

:32:42.:32:43.

I think my dealing with Marc is he is a pretty

:32:44.:32:45.

laid-back kind of guy, and I think he will have wanted

:32:46.:32:47.

I think players have their own personal pride in the

:32:48.:32:52.

performance, and know when you've not played well, and all players

:32:53.:32:54.

have that who stay at the top along time, because you know if you've not

:32:55.:32:56.

delivered, you want to deliver the next week, and I think that's

:32:57.:32:58.

You know Albert Kelly obviously very well.

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How do you see him and Sneyd going as the season

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I think they will complement each other.

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He's got a great kicking game, and he runs

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With Albert Kelly it is more about his running game, and

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his ability to score a try out of anything.

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Huddersfield obviously very much down on troops.

:33:17.:33:18.

Still, though, Rick Stone saying guilty of

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They need some players back, I guess?

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Yes, it is a bit tough, obviously they were down

:33:27.:33:29.

But they just ran into a red-hot Hull FC team.

:33:30.:33:32.

Marc Sneyd on the back of those criticisms just gave all his critics

:33:33.:33:35.

out there 28 reasons not to doubt him again.

:33:36.:33:37.

But I've had a good relationship with Rick Stone.

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I know he'll get the best out of his troops, and once they get a few guys

:33:40.:33:43.

back, I think Huddersfield, they'll be all right.

:33:44.:33:45.

Do you think they have the depth in their squad, though, to

:33:46.:33:50.

We had them in our second warm up game, and they

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Guys like Tommy Symons, and there is a few

:33:57.:34:00.

guys who will probably get a little bit longer

:34:01.:34:02.

immediate, I think they should do well.

:34:03.:34:09.

I think most teams, if you put out a fully fit team against a team

:34:10.:34:12.

with nine or ten players out, they will hammer them.

:34:13.:34:15.

We saw a lot of close games in the first couple of

:34:16.:34:18.

rounds because they both had nearly fully fit sides out, and the two

:34:19.:34:21.

blow away scores have been almost fully fit

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sides against those with

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But ultimately, does it come as you get

:34:26.:34:29.

towards the end of the season, is it those ones that have got the depth

:34:30.:34:33.

You look at the people who are not playing yet.

:34:34.:34:37.

The depth of your squad gets you high up in the league, and

:34:38.:34:40.

then at the back end of the year, it's about having your best players

:34:41.:34:43.

You need your best 17 out if you want to win the Grand

:34:44.:34:50.

Final, it is probably your 17 to 25 who determine where you are going to

:34:51.:34:54.

Well, Saint Helens has not been a happy hunting ground for Wakefield

:34:55.:34:58.

Their last win was at Knowsley Road back in

:34:59.:35:03.

They were back in town again on Friday, and Dave Woods was

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COMMENTATOR: Wood's having a good look around here to see what might

:35:08.:35:12.

He's made a bit of yardage there as well.

:35:13.:35:19.

Good length straight from Arona to put them within five metres

:35:20.:35:21.

Here's Ashurst first, closing in again.

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Just trying to slow things down here, James Roby, and the referee

:35:26.:35:36.

So, Williams with a chance to kick the first two points of the night,

:35:37.:35:46.

But might be a valuable contribution on a night as

:35:47.:35:53.

Outfield again looking to size them up here,

:35:54.:35:59.

Lots of mistakes from both sides, but

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Wakefield it would seem are handling the conditions just the better at

:36:05.:36:07.

the moment, and providing a bit of width here.

:36:08.:36:09.

From Mason Caton-Brown. Well, the referee wants another look. Thinks

:36:10.:36:28.

it's a try. The grip on the ball is pretty good. The dive is terrific.

:36:29.:36:33.

And that is a mighty fine finish from Mason Caton-Brown. Try given,

:36:34.:36:44.

and that is one of those WoW tries from the Wakefield winger. Looking

:36:45.:36:51.

to roll forward again, and they are looking to test on that right

:36:52.:36:55.

right-hand side again. Williams goes down for a second time, and adjudged

:36:56.:37:03.

to have just a little too much interference here, so another

:37:04.:37:11.

penalty. Hardly surprising they are going for two. It is going to be a

:37:12.:37:17.

10-0 lead with Williams' goal. Wakefield rolling on. Issuing all

:37:18.:37:27.

kinds of instructions here, James Roby, and McCarthy-Scarsbrook is

:37:28.:37:33.

throwing himself on the line. Wakefield defenders just about

:37:34.:37:36.

hanging on here, look how close they are here. Desperately needing

:37:37.:37:43.

revival of spirits. It is Ryan Morgan now who has it, and he is

:37:44.:37:48.

over to score. St Helens finally on the scoresheet here. And boy, how

:37:49.:37:53.

much did they need that, with half-time looming? You can see how

:37:54.:38:02.

bad conditions are here. It is not a night for free-flowing rugby league.

:38:03.:38:10.

They are old-fashioned conditions, with an old-fashioned response

:38:11.:38:14.

required. St Helens moving it left, and suddenly there is a chance here

:38:15.:38:20.

for Percival. St Helens have another, and suddenly they are

:38:21.:38:23.

perking up in this second half. Finding the fight.

:38:24.:38:32.

It's a slam forward by Walmsley. Roby rolling in again. They are

:38:33.:38:44.

searching out now. Trying to make some space for Percival, who has got

:38:45.:38:49.

his second, has he? Yes, he has. Mark Percival with a second, and

:38:50.:38:55.

Saint Helen for the first time just pushing their noses in front. They

:38:56.:39:08.

are testing again here. Held up short, St Helens defending

:39:09.:39:12.

desperately. Finn once more, and Miller is on the chase. Has he

:39:13.:39:18.

touched it down? There is a complaint here from Wakefield. What

:39:19.:39:22.

is the referee saying? REFEREE: No try, I want to check for

:39:23.:39:28.

a penalty try. Looking for the penalty try.

:39:29.:39:33.

Richardson came in here. Has he done enough to take Miller of the ball to

:39:34.:39:39.

warrant a penalty try being given. There is no way he has touched it

:39:40.:39:44.

down. But would he have done had it not been for that infringement? The

:39:45.:39:48.

video refs says he would, and Wakefield are going to get a famous

:39:49.:39:52.

victory here, and it is going to be back-to-back defeat the Mac Helens.

:39:53.:40:00.

Let's get straight to that final penalty try. What do you think? It

:40:01.:40:11.

is opinion, you can't be 100% that it is a try, but if they don't score

:40:12.:40:19.

it, how can you be sure? You say, he has a strong chance of scoring, I

:40:20.:40:22.

think he has a strong chance of scoring. I'm with JP. We had a chat

:40:23.:40:27.

about this before. I think Miller has got a real strong chance, and it

:40:28.:40:34.

is a bit body on body. Oh, man. I don't know. I'm on the fence on this

:40:35.:40:41.

one. I think it is a penalty try. I'd have backed into score if he

:40:42.:40:44.

hadn't have been interfered with. That is that one done. Wakefield

:40:45.:40:50.

deserved to win the game? I thought Wakefield were the better side. I

:40:51.:40:58.

thought Saint Helens Kmart all guns blazing, Wakefield were good value

:40:59.:41:05.

for their win. If Smith kicks three goals, a couple of conversions, that

:41:06.:41:11.

is your story, but fair play to Wakefield. Interestingly, Wakefield

:41:12.:41:15.

have got very close in the first two games, but at least you have

:41:16.:41:19.

Brisbane to look at. If they have narrowly lost again, how hard would

:41:20.:41:22.

that have been for them? I guess you feel you deserve to win. It is

:41:23.:41:26.

always deflating when you have been in matches and then you just don't

:41:27.:41:30.

get those two points at the end of it, especially this year, it has

:41:31.:41:35.

been quite tough, but with the players that Wakefield got in trying

:41:36.:41:43.

conditions again, like the Catalans stuff, it was just chopped up, but

:41:44.:41:48.

they came out with the game, and it tells you a lot about your team's

:41:49.:41:51.

character when you can grind out a game like that, especially when you

:41:52.:41:56.

haven't won at a place like the talent and a couple of years. Given

:41:57.:42:00.

the difficult conditions, how good was Mason back to's try? This was

:42:01.:42:12.

such a finish. I think it was finished, the bar has been raised,

:42:13.:42:15.

particularly with the rule about taking out the corner post on that.

:42:16.:42:19.

That is a great try in these conditions. That is what you want,

:42:20.:42:28.

ball out in front. I tell you what, that would be a top two try. Like

:42:29.:42:36.

you say, very slick, and Wakefield deserved the win, and they deserved

:42:37.:42:39.

it, because they have no money in the bag, they haven't won since

:42:40.:42:43.

June, whereas you guys have the performance against Brisbane in

:42:44.:42:46.

terms of winning. And said Helens Jamie alluded to it, surprised to

:42:47.:42:53.

see them start so slowly again. Yes, it is hard for me to talk about

:42:54.:43:00.

teams starting slow, but we are talking about squad depth on the

:43:01.:43:04.

show a lot, and they have got a good squad depth there, so I think Kieron

:43:05.:43:10.

Cunningham, he just needs to get his troops back up for this week. We

:43:11.:43:17.

have had a tough start, but... It is difficult for them next week, I

:43:18.:43:22.

think they go to Hull. This Wakefield game is one they should

:43:23.:43:25.

have won. Time to test the all-round knowledge about Super League stars

:43:26.:43:31.

instead of six. This week's challenger is Saint Halinska Kyle

:43:32.:43:47.

Amor. Chicken, lamb, beef, steak, dear... Um... Pork!

:43:48.:44:02.

Blackbird, goose, ostrich... Pigeon. Seagull Ade hawk. Pass.

:44:03.:44:11.

Javelin, fencing, hurdles, diving, swimming, discus.

:44:12.:44:23.

Whitehaven, Workington, Barrow, Um... Dalton, Carlisle.

:44:24.:44:41.

Boy bands? Take that, oasis, stone roses, The Killers... Take That? Did

:44:42.:45:09.

I say that? In sync. Um... Is that six? Oh! My mind is blank here.

:45:10.:45:27.

That's shocking, isn't it? Ashton, if I say carry on films, do you even

:45:28.:45:39.

know what we are talking about? Seagulls? We will educate you later

:45:40.:45:47.

on. Lee made the seven mile journey to the DW Stadium, and what you make

:45:48.:45:50.

of Wigan's start of the season, Ashton?

:45:51.:45:56.

Red-hot. We were talking of air before, they have done brilliantly.

:45:57.:46:06.

He has had a start of the season, in a second we see Joe Burgess getting

:46:07.:46:09.

injured. How difficult will that be for them? That is when we start

:46:10.:46:22.

talking about squad types. Yes, they have others out as well, but they

:46:23.:46:25.

have younger players they can bring in. But it will be a loss for the

:46:26.:46:31.

Wigan side. George Williams, Wayne Bennett made a lot of play during

:46:32.:46:36.

the England four nations about having to come out and control the

:46:37.:46:40.

game. I use seeing him control the game more? I think he has been at

:46:41.:46:49.

the heart of everything Wigan have done, and every week he seems to be

:46:50.:46:52.

stepping up in performance and being more and more company. And

:46:53.:47:00.

all-round, Wigan have dealt with the challenge, they seem to have managed

:47:01.:47:04.

to grind out the results. Yes, and on the back of a long string of

:47:05.:47:17.

performances, from Williams, from McLoughlin. They are all over the

:47:18.:47:24.

pitch. And Lee, just beaten by the better team? Yes, I think they have

:47:25.:47:29.

been impressive. When you win the Grand Final, you get confidence, and

:47:30.:47:34.

you can see that from the way they have played on the results they have

:47:35.:47:39.

got since those two big aims. So, the champions are still unbeaten,

:47:40.:47:43.

and here's how they stand after Round 3 of the Betfred Super League.

:47:44.:47:48.

Castleford lead the way ahead of champions Wigan. Warrington remain

:47:49.:47:55.

on the foot of the table. Live commentary of Hull FC against St

:47:56.:48:01.

Helens on five live sports extra, and the Super League Show returns

:48:02.:48:09.

next Monday night at 11:30pm, with the one o'clock repeat on Tuesday.

:48:10.:48:13.

And you can join us whenever you like on the BBC iPlayer. That's it

:48:14.:48:17.

this week, thank you to Ashton and Jamie for joining us. We will see

:48:18.:48:19.

you next week. Goodbye.

:48:20.:48:25.

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