13/03/2017 Super League Show


13/03/2017

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Hello. We've got two perfect records on the line this week.

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It's week four of Super League

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and these are the numbers that matter from the season so far.

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Castleford led the way at the start of the round

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and their head coach Daryl Powell is with us.

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He's alongside the now former Huddersfield prop Eorl Crabtree.

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And we'll start with the chart-topping Castleford Tigers.

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Their perfect record was on the line at Widnes on Sunday

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and Matt Newsum was watching.

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Chris Bridge races in to dummy half,

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will take on the Castleford line.

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Tigers standing firm.

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Bridge shovels the ball away to White,

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who'll push it out to Craven.

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Here come Widnes. Looks for the dummy.

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Great little bit of play by Craven!

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Is he going to be held up here by Castleford?

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That is sterling defence from the Tigers.

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Gale to Junior Moors.

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Loves an off-load, Junior Moors.

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He's still going! He's managed to get one away to Gale.

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Castleford love to keep the ball alive,

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and that's what they've done here with Paul McShane.

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Out to this right edge they go. McMeeken looks to take on Widnes.

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Gets the ball away to Minikin, and he's been held up.

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Just outside the 10. McShane, once again,

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oh, it's a beautiful switch! Minikin pops one over the top.

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Minikin will touch down! And Castleford break the deadlock.

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Craven hoists one up.

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He's got Zak Hardaker on the scramble.

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And Castleford will bring the ball out in yardage from their own end.

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It's Ben Roberts in at dummy half. Will he take on the Widnes line?

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Yes, he will! He's found a little dogleg as well, and here he goes!

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Ben Roberts screaming through the centre.

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He's got Monaghan up in support.

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Monaghan takes the ball in. Have they lost momentum here?

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No, they haven't, because McMeeken has come charging onto it.

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He's got Minikin on his outside.

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He steps back infield,

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and Castleford score a thunderous try.

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Length of the field. Marvellous play.

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Tigers well-poised.

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Widnes trying to slow down the play of the ball,

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because Castleford have been 100mph here.

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Moors gets it away to Gale.

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Lifts on away to that left-hand side.

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Shenton!

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Shenton screams though.

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That's his 100th try in Super League.

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McShane, at the heart of everything Castleford have done so far.

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As Ben Roberts runs into traffic.

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Watch them lock him up high trying to stop that off-load,

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as McShane gets it away to Moors, Cook,

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on over to this left-hand side, Gale,

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lovely little tip-on by Michael Shenton,

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and Greg Eden will score in the corner!

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And that is magic from Shenton.

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Magic Mike for the Tigers.

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Junior Moors bullocking his way through the middle.

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Once again, Widnes just scrambling back into the line,

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trying to shut down this Castleford attack here.

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McShane. Will give it to Matt Cook.

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Cook goes for the line.

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Well, it took him till September to score last year,

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and that was against Widnes. He's got one already.

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McShane to Millington.

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Widnes don't know whether they're coming or going here.

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Because Castleford have been absolutely devastating.

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As Gale comes to this left edge, lovely little tip to Hardaker.

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Shenton again, and Greg Eden.

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Well, that is a marvellous try, and caps it.

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Castleford four wins in a row.

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Are you having to stop yourself just grinning,

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watching your team in action at the moment?

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Oh, well, there's just some quality play from the boys at the moment.

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We're in a groove, everybody knows what they're doing,

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er, they know the opposition well, the detail of play,

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and that we've got a Plan B.

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We got rattled a little bit in this game,

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and we found our way out of it.

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But some of the things that we do just make you feel good,

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and the players are enjoying

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playing the game we're playing at the moment.

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We're aware that we're going to be faced with some tough scenarios

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as we move forward,

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but at the moment we're enjoying what we're doing,

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and like I said, we're in a groove.

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I thought we were fantastic yesterday, with the ball,

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but more importantly defensively.

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To put a zip on the opposition's side of the scoreboard

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is great for us. Hasn't happened at Castleford in eight years,

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so we're proud that we've been able to do that,

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and it's a real foundation for us.

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Let's have a look at some of the attacking play.

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And it was a feature last week as well, that you seemed to be

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pulling sides, from one side of the field to another.

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I'm guessing a huge amount of coaching is going into some of this.

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Well, it's a mix, isn't it?

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It's a mix of individual players' ability,

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er, coaching and looking at different weaknesses,

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and then players just applying things

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that we practise all through the week

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and that we've been working hard on in pre-season.

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The pass that's just going to come up in this next one,

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you just sort of lick your lips at,

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but again, they're just moving the ball so well, aren't they?

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It's a skill that we work on significantly.

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I mean, for Michael Shenton to be able to do that -

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and I've no idea how Greg Eden pulled that in.

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It's just an unbelievable level of skill

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that we're exceptionally proud of.

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When the players can deliver skill levels like that,

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er, which is something we've worked on significantly,

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then that's what coaching's about for me.

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It's helping players to be able to deliver skill

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within the toughest environment, which is the competitive arena.

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It may sounds stupid only four games into the season,

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but are you having to try and keep a lid on things?

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Everybody almost seems to be handing out prizes to you now,

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that there is a long way to go,

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and you, I guess, still need them to develop even more.

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Oh, without a doubt.

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We know we're going to be challenged as we move forward.

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We've started the season well, that's all it is.

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We break our season down into blocks.

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We've just gone through our first block of games,

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and we've won four, so we're really pleased about that.

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What we need to be able to do now is push that behind us.

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I've been constantly talking to the players

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about the old saying of keeping your feet on the ground.

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It's staying level-headed and keep applying yourselves and working hard

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on a weekly basis. So you take each game as it comes.

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It... It gets boring in coaching,

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talking about every week and not getting ahead of yourselves,

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but it's an actual reality

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and it's something we're constantly talking about.

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I think it's the manner of our performances this year.

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And is the manner not just the attack we're all purring about,

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but the defence? As the coach, is that the key for you

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as to where your team is at, is how they're defending?

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Well, that's... We've played this way for the last three years.

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There's not been a significant amount of change.

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But the way that we've been defending,

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the way players are working so hard for each other,

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and a desire to keep our try line intact, is huge.

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This is a fantastic piece of play from Paul McShane

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and then our ability to turn defence into attack

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has been fantastic so far, as you see in this clip.

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So he's not only stolen the ball,

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he's thinking about what do we do next.

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And that's... That's a fantastic thing to have in your team,

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to be able to turn one part of the game into another.

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And I suppose this is a great part of our philosophy, Paul McShane,

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just a very clever piece of thinking over the try line.

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That's intelligent defence,

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which is something that you're always working towards.

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I have to say that I'm not the only one who's already looking ahead

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to you guys playing Wigan on April the 6th.

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I guess you have to put all that to one side

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and focus on the next game and the next game.

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Well, you can't play that game, can you?

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The only game we can play is Salford next up.

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So... I've seen it put around in all sorts of TV channels

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that this game's coming up, but it's way down the track.

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You know, Salford is our focus now.

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We've put the review behind us today

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and we move on to Salford and looking at what they do.

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And they're a challenge. I think they're a really good side.

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I think they've done a good job there.

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Do you just feel a bit of sympathy for Widnes who are a bit

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down on numbers coming up against Castleford?

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Though Dennis was very disappointed with how his team responded,

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that they didn't respond in the second half

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-after the half-time team talk.

-Yeah, definitely.

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I can sympathise with them simply because I know exactly

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what we're going through at the moment.

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It's when you have those injuries, it's pretty difficult.

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And getting lads back as well and they're playing with injuries.

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It's that balance of trying to do the right thing

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for the players and the team and they're in a tough position.

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Such as us. Do you know,

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it's frustrating watching Castleford for me

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because I see how they play and I see

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how they're enjoying themselves, scoring points for fun,

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and I'm a bit envious of it.

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If you want to advertise a great sport like rugby league,

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I think Castle's sort of showing the way to do it.

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With great skill, great tries and working hard for each other.

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It's something that they've been renowned for.

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And it seems to be...

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-He's going to start blushing soon.

-It's not just cos he's here!

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You know, I'm not after trying to get a shirt or anything like that!

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Sort that one out afterwards!

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Well, before that match at Widnes there were tributes

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to their former captain Mick Adams, who died last week.

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He won four Challenge Cups

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and represented Great Britain and England.

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Our condolences to his family and his friends.

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Well, Warrington and Wigan met for the first time

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since the Grand Final.

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They were pretty close last season,

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but after three wins for Wigan and three defeats for Warrington,

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they've been heading in different directions this time around.

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# I'm talking 'bout the highs

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# I'm talking 'bout the lows

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# I'm sticking by your side

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# No way I'm letting go

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-# I'm talking 'bout the highs

-I'm talking 'bout the highs

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-# I'm talking 'bout the lows

-I'm talking 'bout the lows... #

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A dummy half here.

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Wigan looking towards that right-hand side again.

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Escare motoring in.

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Leuluai.

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They've got a bit of width here on the left-hand side.

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It is a lovely, delicate little kick and Marshall, Liam Marshall,

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only his second appearance, is a Wigan try scorer.

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What a moment for the youngster.

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A good burst down the middle here by Forsyth.

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He's done really well and Escare is there in support.

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Escare is off.

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They're going to close him down.

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Kevin Brown across to make the tackle but Escare wriggling

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to his feet and Wigan with a real opportunity here.

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Williams trying to cut through himself.

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But he's cut down.

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Powell searching right again.

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And look at the numbers

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and Gelling is there for Wigan's second try.

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He has had a look.

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It's going to go to Leuluai on that right-hand side.

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Warrington's defences up quickly but they have not

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stopped the off-load.

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Escare skipping across here.

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Wigan asking a few pertinent questions again.

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Flower put down.

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Powell, now it comes left. O'Loughlin looks for the big pass

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which bounces into the hands of Marshall

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and gives him a second score.

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He's having quite a night.

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Williams going for the confrontation of Tautai.

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Taking on those three Warrington defenders.

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Powell, left of Williams,

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Williams scuttling to that left-hand side with a lovely soft pass.

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And Farrell is over again for Wigan.

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They're having quite a performance here tonight.

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Warrington needing something quickly here, you feel,

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to lift their spirits.

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Half-time is not that long away.

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So Clark going left.

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Step back in, Westerman with the off-load.

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Clark's involved again here.

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Trying to make something happen.

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He's kept it alive.

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Here's a chance. Oh, my word.

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Had it gone to the hands of Matty Russell, he was in to score.

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Clark.

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An opportunity to go wide here.

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Lineham. Oh, that's lovely footwork from Lineham.

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And he's left Forsyth there

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and has support on the inside from Kevin Brown

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who will look to find Atkins.

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It's a real eye-catching Warrington try

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just when they needed it the most.

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Just before half-time.

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Well, that will lift them.

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And the fans sensing that there's something on here.

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Working the blind side again. Atkins.

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Flicking it away.

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Still second tackle.

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So they've got a lot of ball to play with here in this position.

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Marshall picks it up.

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And Liam Marshall will run away for a memorable hat-trick.

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Two games into his Wigan career

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and he's already a hat-trick hero.

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And barely a flicker of emotion on his face.

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Powell.

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On the inside there, searching again.

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But Warrington's defence holding up for the moment.

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They can ill afford to concede again at this stage.

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Oh, that's a lovely little run

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and touch. That has seen Wells get over for his debut try.

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Big moment for the youngster.

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They're all cashing in.

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Sims.

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And across the line it goes.

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And brushing away the defence,

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Rhys Evans.

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But it's come late in the game.

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And they know they're still up against it.

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Clark running out there.

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Back to Brown, puts the kick

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and the chase on.

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Escare gets there first and is able to pick it up cleanly.

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And he beats a couple of defenders

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on his way out of trouble.

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Here's a break by Gelling,

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who is pushing off defenders.

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Gelling going well.

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Evans comes across there to make the tackle in the end,

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but look how many yards they've made,

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and as Gelling tries to get up and play it,

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second effort by Evans has given Wigan a penalty

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right in front of the sticks.

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There'll be no temptation to kick for goal,

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not at this stage of the game.

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They're going for the jugular again.

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That was Navarette.

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Here's Williams.

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Farrell running away from defenders, making space,

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and look who's in again.

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Liam Marshall, his fourth try of the night.

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Well, hardly a celebration going on,

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but my word, what a game.

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Dwyer.

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Now it comes left to Gidley.

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Gidley's chopped down.

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Atkins. He runs from dummy half.

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It's a wonderfully worked move

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for Lineham to score in the corner.

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But the pain on Lineham's face rather summing up

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the night for Warrington.

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But that was a lovely moment for them.

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So, into the final seconds here,

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and the hooter sounding in the background.

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Flower will take it in, a thumping good win for Wigan.

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Really good performance by them,

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but it is now four defeats from four for the Warrington Wolves.

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Is this a slightly different Wigan team that we're seeing,

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a different style of play?

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It looks like one to me, and they've always been renowned

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for being a tough, physical team

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with lots of intent,

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intent to hurt,

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intent to get off the line

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and defend hard, and that's what they do,

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but now they're throwing the ball around a lot more.

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They seem to be breaking through tackles in the middle field,

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the centres, which... You don't even know

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why they'd be there for a Wigan side.

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The structure seems to be disappearing a little bit.

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It's still there, but with the half-backs as well

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playing really well, I think this is a different Wigan side,

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and it's the best rugby. We were talking about before with Darryl,

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who was saying this is the best rugby

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that they've actually played, for us,

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you know, the style of play, it's a lot more interesting to watch,

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but they look very dangerous as well with it.

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And how are you seeing George Williams develop within that?

9:23:179:23:20

Actually, his coach, ever critical, said he didn't think

9:23:209:23:23

this was his best game, that there were a couple of mistakes in there.

9:23:239:23:26

But how are you seeing him begin to take control in that middle?

9:23:269:23:29

Well, he's just a good player, isn't he?

9:23:299:23:32

He's an instinctive player,

9:23:329:23:33

and he's going to make mistakes.

9:23:339:23:35

Half-backs who are creative and want to make things happen

9:23:359:23:38

make mistakes, but he's a significant part of this Wigan team.

9:23:389:23:42

Just his ability to kick in attacking positions

9:23:429:23:45

is as good as anything else in the competition.

9:23:459:23:49

And he's very, very strong, so his running game is a threat,

9:23:499:23:53

so he attracts defenders in to him,

9:23:539:23:55

and the way he played on their left edge,

9:23:559:23:57

you see him skipping across and playing short.

9:23:579:24:00

-That's a significant threat to teams.

-And how significant is he?

9:24:009:24:03

You see him leading and talking, and Wayne Bennett picked it up,

9:24:039:24:06

he said he's very quiet.

9:24:069:24:07

Is that the bit that he has had to develop?

9:24:079:24:10

Yeah, well, young half-backs, young people generally take

9:24:109:24:13

a little bit more time to develop their communication skills.

9:24:139:24:16

It's just a part of human nature.

9:24:169:24:18

So he's growing all the time as a player.

9:24:189:24:20

He's still very young, but he's a threat.

9:24:209:24:22

He's a good kicking game, he's a good passing game,

9:24:229:24:25

he's very strong as a ball carrier,

9:24:259:24:26

so he's a significant threat.

9:24:269:24:28

He's got Tommy Leuluai in there with him now.

9:24:289:24:30

So he's got an experienced player alongside him,

9:24:309:24:32

so it looks like a really good combination,

9:24:329:24:34

and very difficult to deal with.

9:24:349:24:36

They're both very strong ball-carriers

9:24:369:24:38

as well as being good with both kicking games

9:24:389:24:40

and their ability to pass, so...

9:24:409:24:43

And the production line keeps on rolling.

9:24:439:24:45

Both wingers out, two new ones come in,

9:24:459:24:47

Liam Marshall getting four tries.

9:24:479:24:48

It is incredible these kids just keep coming through,

9:24:489:24:51

and they slot straight in, don't they?

9:24:519:24:52

Yeah, the pool they can choose from is absolutely fantastic,

9:24:529:24:55

and no matter who they put into that team, they always seem to do a job,

9:24:559:24:58

and I think they won the Grand Final

9:24:589:25:00

with pretty much half the team missing,

9:25:009:25:02

with all these youngsters coming through,

9:25:029:25:04

but then they become regulars, and someone else will drop out

9:25:049:25:06

through injury, and they'll bring someone else in

9:25:069:25:08

again to score tries, and still play like the Wigan team do.

9:25:089:25:12

And again, that's a frustrating thing to see, but at the same time,

9:25:129:25:15

it's absolutely fantastic. What they're doing,

9:25:159:25:17

they're doing really well.

9:25:179:25:19

Are you surprised at how well Morgan Escare has fitted in to that

9:25:199:25:22

and how much he's bringing to the team?

9:25:229:25:24

Yeah, it was interesting when he signed for Wigan.

9:25:249:25:26

You're thinking, they've got Sam Tomkins,

9:25:269:25:28

he is a significant part of them as a team,

9:25:289:25:29

but I thought he was outstanding in this game.

9:25:299:25:33

He's kicking a hell of a lot, and he was very accurate with that.

9:25:339:25:35

He's obviously very quick.

9:25:359:25:37

He looks strong, stronger defensively,

9:25:379:25:40

he looks like he's a little bit bigger than he was at Catalans.

9:25:409:25:43

And it looks like they've put a fair bit of confidence in him

9:25:439:25:46

and allowed him to play, so he's a threat, he's a good player.

9:25:469:25:49

How worried will Sam Tomkins be, watching this?

9:25:499:25:52

I think he should be worried, as well,

9:25:529:25:53

because this isn't the same player I've seen before, Escare.

9:25:539:25:56

This is his twin brother or something that has come from Wigan,

9:25:569:25:59

because he's a total different breed.

9:25:599:26:01

He's a lot bigger, a lot stronger.

9:26:019:26:02

He's always had the pace like you talked about.

9:26:029:26:04

But he just seems like he's got more presence now,

9:26:049:26:06

and a player that is to be feared.

9:26:069:26:09

And what do you make of Warrington?

9:26:099:26:10

What's going wrong there?

9:26:109:26:12

Oh, it's a difficult one, isn't it?

9:26:129:26:14

I mean, they started the season off so well,

9:26:149:26:16

winning the World Cup Challenge, and they were superb that night,

9:26:169:26:20

and we had to play them the week after.

9:26:209:26:21

And we were thinking, wow. I mean, the way that they played,

9:26:219:26:24

and I think they made two errors all night.

9:26:249:26:26

And now they're making errors,

9:26:269:26:28

they look like they've lost a little bit of confidence.

9:26:289:26:31

So this is a huge game for them this week.

9:26:319:26:33

I mean, Wigan were superb in that game,

9:26:339:26:35

and made life really difficult for them,

9:26:359:26:37

and they need to get back on track very, very quickly,

9:26:379:26:40

or you saw what happened to Leeds and Huddersfield last year.

9:26:409:26:44

It's tough when you lose a significant portion of games.

9:26:449:26:47

There's only 23 rounds, so this is a huge game for them.

9:26:479:26:51

Well, the next two teams that we have got have been

9:26:519:26:53

to the million pound game and lived to tell the tale.

9:26:539:26:56

It's Wakefield against Salford, with commentary from Richard Stead.

9:26:569:26:59

Early stages, then,

9:27:029:27:03

good carry from Anthony England for Wakefield Trinity.

9:27:039:27:07

Oh...

9:27:079:27:09

Very clumsy looking, that.

9:27:099:27:10

Lama Tasi could be in trouble here.

9:27:109:27:13

Robert Hicks says ten minutes in the bin,

9:27:139:27:15

and Salford are down to 12 two minutes in.

9:27:159:27:17

Tasi's on his way.

9:27:199:27:20

Tomkins to Lui.

9:27:229:27:24

Murdoch-Masila.

9:27:249:27:26

And... Ooh, that could be a penalty.

9:27:279:27:29

And you wonder if Salford might take the two here.

9:27:319:27:34

O'Brien.

9:27:349:27:35

And the deadlock is broken,

9:27:359:27:37

Salford lead 2-0.

9:27:379:27:39

Grix to the line. Oh, that was high.

9:27:419:27:43

Could be a chance here for a Wakefield penalty.

9:27:459:27:48

Sam Williams through the uprights, two points apiece.

9:27:509:27:53

Miller along the line.

9:27:569:27:59

Tinirau Arona to Grix.

9:27:599:28:01

And, ooh, the ball's come loose.

9:28:029:28:05

Another penalty here and Tompkins has been guilty of a few,

9:28:059:28:08

and he's going to spend ten minutes in the bin.

9:28:089:28:09

Salford down to 12 for the second time in this first half.

9:28:119:28:14

Williams.

9:28:179:28:19

Pretty regulation stuff, Wakefield lead.

9:28:199:28:21

Here come Trinity.

9:28:249:28:26

Finn. Nice combinations there.

9:28:269:28:28

To Reece Lyne.

9:28:289:28:30

And that's nicely taken in the end there.

9:28:309:28:32

Reece Lyne over for the first try of the afternoon.

9:28:329:28:35

Grix. Ashurst.

9:28:379:28:39

Good break, this.

9:28:409:28:41

Johnston kicks through,

9:28:439:28:45

Miller and Grix are chasing.

9:28:459:28:47

It's a foot race, and Miller's in.

9:28:479:28:49

Miller's in and Wakefield extend their advantage.

9:28:499:28:51

A chance now for Salford. Lui, flat pass.

9:28:549:28:57

Murdoch-Masila barges his way over.

9:28:579:29:00

It's taken ten minutes, but they've struck.

9:29:009:29:02

Dobson to Lui.

9:29:059:29:06

Here's O'Brien. Kris Welham.

9:29:069:29:08

Welham will be in here.

9:29:089:29:09

Salford score again.

9:29:099:29:11

All Red Devils at the moment.

9:29:149:29:16

Here's Robert Lui.

9:29:179:29:19

O'Brien. Greg Johnson.

9:29:199:29:22

Oh, Magic Johnson!

9:29:229:29:23

Wonderful finish, how has he got that down?

9:29:239:29:25

Dobson.

9:29:289:29:29

Griffin.

9:29:319:29:32

Oh, he's in! Griffin is in.

9:29:329:29:35

It's all The Red Devils.

9:29:359:29:36

What can Wakefield do?

9:29:389:29:39

A chance maybe here... Oh, a try here!

9:29:419:29:44

Bill Tupou scores for Wakefield. Glimmers.

9:29:449:29:47

Huby. Miller.

9:29:509:29:51

Reece Lyne.

9:29:549:29:55

Reece Lyne's in!

9:29:559:29:56

Levelling things up for Wakefield.

9:29:579:30:00

Two minutes to go, this to take the lead for Wakefield Trinity

9:30:029:30:05

and it's through!

9:30:059:30:07

It's through.

9:30:079:30:09

Have they stolen it at the death?

9:30:099:30:11

Salford desperate to keep it alive.

9:30:139:30:17

Dobson, Flanagan, Lui,

9:30:179:30:19

Murdoch-Masila to win a thriller!

9:30:199:30:22

Oh, he's bounced that. Wakefield win!

9:30:229:30:24

Wakefield win. He's dropped it.

9:30:249:30:26

A look of despair there from Salford.

9:30:309:30:31

Let's take another look at that, Ben Murdoch-Masila,

9:30:319:30:33

because Ian Watson was saying afterwards if there were sky cameras

9:30:339:30:36

at every game and all the rest of it,

9:30:369:30:38

slow-motion replays, this might have been given.

9:30:389:30:40

Do you reckon he bounced it?

9:30:409:30:42

Well, looks like it, doesn't it?

9:30:429:30:44

Erm... Yeah, he dropped that.

9:30:449:30:47

Is the giveaway the player himself?

9:30:479:30:49

He's not jumping around questioning the ref.

9:30:499:30:51

Well, he doesn't look that excited, does he? So...

9:30:519:30:54

Yeah, you know as a player.

9:30:549:30:56

I think referees generally get the right sort of call.

9:30:569:30:59

It's not like there are a lot of people around the player

9:30:599:31:01

trying to score there, so for me, it looks like he put the ball down.

9:31:019:31:06

Wakefield though, they've had really close games

9:31:069:31:09

every single game this season.

9:31:099:31:10

Came through last week and to build on that,

9:31:109:31:12

the confidence looks really good in there, doesn't it?

9:31:129:31:14

Yeah, it does. They're playing some good stuff again.

9:31:149:31:17

They've got some great players, passing the ball around a lot more

9:31:179:31:19

than what they used to do as well,

9:31:199:31:21

so they're playing out the forwards which is nice to see,

9:31:219:31:23

but they just seem to be working hard, they've got that confidence.

9:31:239:31:26

And even against us, they were the better team in the game against us

9:31:269:31:29

even though we managed to go on and win the game.

9:31:299:31:31

So I think they probably learned a couple of lessons

9:31:319:31:33

out of that as well. So it seems to have done the trick.

9:31:339:31:36

They're working hard and enjoying what they are doing as well.

9:31:369:31:39

Another team that have signed really well,

9:31:399:31:42

and they're getting the rewards for that.

9:31:429:31:44

Are you expecting Salford to come out all guns blazing

9:31:449:31:46

against you guys?

9:31:469:31:47

I would have thought so.

9:31:479:31:49

They'll... They're always confident at home.

9:31:499:31:51

You're always looking to respond when you've lost a game anyway.

9:31:519:31:55

And we found them really tough to play against last year,

9:31:559:31:57

so, yeah, I'm expecting a really difficult game.

9:31:579:32:00

Well, Leigh Centurions were looking to double their tally for the season

9:32:009:32:03

when they faced Huddersfield on Friday,

9:32:039:32:05

and your old team-mates came up against some strong resistance,

9:32:059:32:07

-didn't they, Eorl?

-Yeah, straight away.

9:32:079:32:09

I mean, we had some good opportunities in this game.

9:32:099:32:11

Leroy Cudjoe going very close.

9:32:119:32:13

But it's that Leigh defence. They work so hard.

9:32:139:32:16

They made it very difficult

9:32:169:32:17

and every time we got an opportunity, they just held us out.

9:32:179:32:21

Now, we know they've got some ability,

9:32:219:32:23

and they passed the ball wide on this occasion.

9:32:239:32:25

Getting finally into the corner,

9:32:259:32:26

but that, for us, is a soft try

9:32:269:32:28

where we're pretty much dictating to them what they're going to do.

9:32:289:32:31

And then this again, it... It's just not good enough.

9:32:319:32:35

A couple of opportunities,

9:32:359:32:36

Acton there with a try which was just a soft barge over,

9:32:369:32:39

and again, it made things difficult.

9:32:399:32:42

This was a good one with Seb Ikahihifo.

9:32:429:32:45

Pelissier is actually gouging his face there

9:32:459:32:47

and Seb just let him know about it

9:32:479:32:49

and then it was all guns blazing, literally.

9:32:499:32:52

And it's not a great sight.

9:32:529:32:53

It's the frustration that we've probably got on our side,

9:32:539:32:55

and also them as well.

9:32:559:32:56

They go in with arrogance when they play,

9:32:569:32:58

They do have that cockiness which I've talked about before,

9:32:589:33:01

and you can see they puff their chests out,

9:33:019:33:03

and I'd like us to do that a little bit more.

9:33:039:33:05

Is that something that you guys are lacking?

9:33:059:33:07

We are lacking confidence massively. It's very hard.

9:33:079:33:10

This is Gaskell making the wrong decision.

9:33:109:33:12

He's trying to do the best he can,

9:33:129:33:14

and I think he feared the ball would actually go out,

9:33:149:33:18

and on that occasion, it didn't.

9:33:189:33:20

And then our heads dropped. That was 18-0 there.

9:33:209:33:23

This takes them another try in front,

9:33:239:33:25

and then getting up to the last try, it just wasn't good enough.

9:33:259:33:29

You could see the body language of the players,

9:33:299:33:32

and we talked about the mood before,

9:33:329:33:34

and sometimes I think that's what you have got to change.

9:33:349:33:37

Not so much the style of play,

9:33:379:33:39

but trying to improve the confidence and making a bit of a happier camp.

9:33:399:33:44

Leigh, though, seemed to have learned a huge amount

9:33:449:33:46

from that opening game when you beat them fairly comfortably.

9:33:469:33:50

Yeah, well, it was always going to be a bit of a transition period

9:33:509:33:53

into Super League, but I think they've done it really well,

9:33:539:33:56

and quickly as well, and obviously to beat Saint Helens at home

9:33:569:33:58

and then they win this game...

9:33:589:34:00

They've had a couple of tough games.

9:34:009:34:03

They lost to Wigan, they've lost to ourselves, but they're doing well.

9:34:039:34:06

I think they're doing better than anybody would have anticipated,

9:34:069:34:09

and they're on the board now.

9:34:099:34:11

They've got a couple of wins. They'll be confident

9:34:119:34:13

with the home form, and this Thursday's game -

9:34:139:34:15

I'm looking forward to seeing this Thursday's game.

9:34:159:34:17

I think it's going to be really interesting to see

9:34:179:34:20

how Warrington fare against them.

9:34:209:34:22

No team had scored fewer points than St Helens

9:34:229:34:25

in the opening weeks of the season,

9:34:259:34:26

and they were up against the competition's meanest defence

9:34:269:34:29

in Hull on Friday.

9:34:299:34:30

Dave Woods saw this one.

9:34:309:34:31

Danny Houghton moving over dummy half again here

9:34:359:34:37

and Hull continuing to attack.

9:34:379:34:39

A little drop of the shoulder by Albert Kelly,

9:34:399:34:42

which has taken him close,

9:34:429:34:43

but enough St Helens defenders to make sure

9:34:439:34:45

that's not too much of a threat.

9:34:459:34:47

And again, they're pummelling that line with the off-load.

9:34:479:34:51

Little flick away.

9:34:519:34:53

Somehow they get it away.

9:34:539:34:54

Here's Kelly now. Reaching.

9:34:549:34:56

And I think he's got the try.

9:34:569:34:58

He's convinced and so is he.

9:35:009:35:02

And Hull with the opening score.

9:35:029:35:05

Fages with a corkscrew kick back to the middle.

9:35:089:35:12

Oh, it's been lost.

9:35:129:35:14

A kick in the air.

9:35:149:35:15

And Dominic Peyroux will score.

9:35:159:35:17

Comedy of errors from Hull, and Saints are back.

9:35:179:35:21

What a way to do it.

9:35:239:35:24

Dashing down the blindside but they come near.

9:35:269:35:30

Amor.

9:35:309:35:32

Pushing it in and pushing hard.

9:35:329:35:33

Looking to get up and play it and the referee deciding

9:35:359:35:37

that Danny Houghton was hanging on too long.

9:35:379:35:40

So the penalty right in front of the sticks.

9:35:429:35:45

St Helens decide to go for goal here.

9:35:469:35:49

Percival, in the dying embers of this first half,

9:35:519:35:55

gives St Helens a two point lead.

9:35:559:35:57

Here's a push by Minichiello.

9:36:039:36:05

Cunningham looking on.

9:36:079:36:09

Hull looking to do some danger here.

9:36:109:36:13

Amor came and a flap of the arm

9:36:139:36:15

which the referee has decided was a little dangerous.

9:36:159:36:20

It was going down but still high enough.

9:36:209:36:23

So the penalty given.

9:36:279:36:29

And Mark Sneyd, four minutes into this second half,

9:36:309:36:34

will make it all square again. The kick's a good one.

9:36:349:36:36

His name echoes around the KCOM. It's eight points apiece.

9:36:369:36:40

Houghton.

9:36:429:36:43

Ball rolls back to him and out it goes.

9:36:449:36:46

Little flick.

9:36:469:36:48

Well, it's on the floor. St Helens have it back,

9:36:489:36:50

but there was a challenge there on Sneyd...

9:36:509:36:53

..which the referee has spotted.

9:36:559:36:57

A kick and a chase and Peyroux clearly across,

9:36:589:37:01

late and with the shoulder.

9:37:019:37:03

So they haven't had the lead for a good chunk of the game.

9:37:059:37:09

Sneyd looks to put that right from his side's point of view

9:37:099:37:12

and he does.

9:37:129:37:13

They edge ahead, do Hull.

9:37:139:37:14

Roby.

9:37:209:37:22

Coming out to that right-hand side.

9:37:229:37:24

Oh, there's... A little bit of... What's going on here

9:37:249:37:27

between Turgut and Walmsley?

9:37:279:37:29

Play continues meanwhile. I'm not sure for how long

9:37:309:37:33

because there's quite a kerfuffle going on in the middle.

9:37:339:37:36

The referee eventually stops the clock

9:37:369:37:38

and will have a little conversation here with the players involved

9:37:389:37:42

and with his two touch judges too.

9:37:429:37:45

Ooh, and that's a definite use of the elbow there,

9:37:459:37:47

isn't it, from Turgut?

9:37:479:37:49

Into the face of Alex Walmsley.

9:37:499:37:52

He is reaching for a card. What colour is it going to be?

9:37:549:37:56

It's yellow. He's off for ten minutes is Turgut.

9:37:569:37:59

Well, he shakes his head

9:38:009:38:02

but quite clearly here knocked that arm in the face,

9:38:029:38:05

it's this elbow there that looked quite deliberate.

9:38:059:38:08

Percival to square things up.

9:38:119:38:15

40 metres out, no problem with the distance,

9:38:159:38:17

no problem with the angles and it's ten apiece.

9:38:179:38:21

Roby dashing out there. Here comes Theo Fages.

9:38:239:38:26

He's found a bit of space here has Fages and has support as well.

9:38:269:38:30

Well, they've got themselves

9:38:309:38:32

in a very decent position here, St Helens.

9:38:329:38:35

Roby goes left. Fages again.

9:38:359:38:37

Into the hands of Percival,

9:38:379:38:39

who will slide over to score.

9:38:399:38:42

And St Helens back in the lead.

9:38:429:38:45

What a crucial moment this might be.

9:38:479:38:49

Houghton.

9:38:539:38:54

Well, they're finding a position here.

9:38:569:38:58

They've got four tackles to go.

9:38:589:39:00

Kelly looks at what support he's got here.

9:39:029:39:05

That hand is good. And Carlos Tuimavave steps inside.

9:39:059:39:08

A couple of flimsy St Helens tackles.

9:39:099:39:12

And he's over to score.

9:39:129:39:14

And again, it's getting a little heated here.

9:39:169:39:18

The ref's given the try. Oh, he's given an 8-point try.

9:39:239:39:27

He's given an 8-point try, a foul as the try was scored, he's decided.

9:39:279:39:33

Tuimavave touches down

9:39:339:39:36

and it's that that he's given the extra penalty for.

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Sneyd will kick the conversion.

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So that's the lead, 16-14.

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Have a look at this. It seems a little harsh, does it?

9:39:499:39:52

That's the referee's view.

9:39:529:39:53

Decided the knee was involved which is why another kick has been given.

9:39:539:39:58

And the eight points gathered in.

9:39:589:40:00

18-14. Hull lead.

9:40:009:40:03

Roby.

9:40:059:40:07

St Helens desperately needing something here.

9:40:079:40:11

And they're keeping it alive with Percival

9:40:119:40:13

and Swift does well to keep in play.

9:40:139:40:17

Well, it's still the full tackle

9:40:189:40:20

and still they have a chance here

9:40:209:40:22

with an overlap down that right-hand side.

9:40:229:40:24

Flicked away. Owens comes back towards the middle.

9:40:259:40:29

Fages.

9:40:299:40:30

It's Saints of old here almost.

9:40:309:40:32

They're still keeping it alive.

9:40:329:40:34

There still remains a threat.

9:40:349:40:36

Percival puts on the speed here.

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Steps inside.

9:40:399:40:40

Has beaten three.

9:40:409:40:42

He keeps it going backwards.

9:40:429:40:44

Fages again and eventually dragged down.

9:40:449:40:46

So five tackles.

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Here comes the last.

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To Wilkin now. Wilkin with a little chip.

9:40:519:40:54

Oh, it flies out of play.

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And that might be it for St Helens.

9:40:579:41:00

The frustration is clear.

9:41:019:41:03

So, Houghton.

9:41:069:41:07

Hull only had to keep hold of the ball here.

9:41:079:41:11

They're doing better than that.

9:41:119:41:12

Taylor's on the way through and it's going to be finished.

9:41:129:41:16

Finished with a little style by Albert Kelly.

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Enough to win the game and break St Helens' hearts.

9:41:199:41:22

First home win of the year for Hull,

9:41:229:41:24

a third defeat on the bounce for Saints.

9:41:249:41:27

Well, let's start with the 8-point try.

9:41:309:41:32

Not something we see very often.

9:41:329:41:33

I don't know which one of you wish to go on this one.

9:41:339:41:36

Was it an 8-point try for you or are they a little bit unlucky?

9:41:369:41:40

Well, it didn't make a difference anyway, did it?

9:41:409:41:42

But for me, he has played at him late

9:41:429:41:45

and he's made contact with his knee into his ribs.

9:41:459:41:50

It's pretty dangerous and I don't think there's any need.

9:41:509:41:52

There's nothing major in it, but it is an 8-point try.

9:41:529:41:56

You can't... It was a foul in the act of scoring a try

9:41:569:41:59

and I wouldn't want that in my rib cage, to be fair.

9:41:599:42:02

No, I wouldn't want a lot of the things

9:42:029:42:04

that go on on a rugby pitch.

9:42:049:42:05

But Keiron not impressed.

9:42:059:42:08

Hull, a grafting win from them, would you say?

9:42:089:42:12

A lot more to come from them?

9:42:129:42:14

Yeah, grafting, rugged, scrappy.

9:42:149:42:16

I think that was the whole game overall.

9:42:169:42:18

I thought there was some good passages of play within the game.

9:42:189:42:21

But overall, just a scrappy performance by both sides

9:42:219:42:24

but sometimes those are the games,

9:42:249:42:26

especially at the back end of the season,

9:42:269:42:28

you've got to win those sort of games.

9:42:289:42:29

Not normally classics. This was not a classic.

9:42:299:42:32

I think the best part of the game was the last try actually.

9:42:329:42:36

Scott Taylor through to Albert Kelly,

9:42:369:42:38

under the sticks for a swan dive of a finish.

9:42:389:42:40

That was probably the most exciting part for me personally.

9:42:409:42:43

Tough for Keiron because they built so much around Matty Smith.

9:42:439:42:46

You've also got Johnny Lomax out.

9:42:469:42:48

Are they just... Do you get the sense that they're just

9:42:489:42:50

waiting for Matty Smith to come back and do what they did in pre-season?

9:42:509:42:54

Yeah, it looks like it, doesn't it?

9:42:549:42:55

But you don't really want to get to that point.

9:42:559:42:57

You don't want to feel like your team revolves around

9:42:579:43:00

two players. It shouldn't do.

9:43:009:43:01

You should be able to deal with a couple of injuries.

9:43:019:43:04

I mean, who'd want to be a coach? I mean, that game...

9:43:049:43:07

you could see the tension etched on both coaches.

9:43:079:43:09

But you are a coach!

9:43:099:43:11

Yeah. The tension and Kieron is obviously in a tough situation.

9:43:129:43:16

They've lost three out of their first four games.

9:43:169:43:19

So there's some coaches under pressure.

9:43:199:43:22

And it's the beauty of it, it's the tension of it.

9:43:229:43:25

But, yeah, there's some pressure on at the moment!

9:43:259:43:27

You're the one sitting there grinning. You're all right.

9:43:279:43:29

Now, he can do the Rubik's cube in double quick time

9:43:299:43:32

and he is not bad on the piano either,

9:43:329:43:34

but what does Ryan Hall know about the really important things in life?

9:43:349:43:37

It is time for Set Of Six.

9:43:379:43:39

Er, London, Paris, Madrid,

9:43:489:43:49

Berlin, Tokyo, Beijing.

9:43:499:43:52

Harry Potter, er...Hermione Granger,

9:43:559:43:58

Ron Weasley,

9:43:589:43:59

er, Dumbledore,

9:43:599:44:01

Snape,

9:44:019:44:03

Professor McGonagall.

9:44:039:44:05

Hull FC, Leeds Rhinos,

9:44:079:44:10

Wigan Warriors, Warrington Wolves,

9:44:109:44:13

Sheffield Eagles...

9:44:139:44:15

Erm...

9:44:159:44:17

St Helens.

9:44:199:44:20

I should get this one. I've got two kids.

9:44:229:44:25

Baa Baa Black Sheep...

9:44:259:44:27

Erm...

9:44:279:44:28

Wind The Bobbin Up.

9:44:309:44:31

What else? I can't sing.

9:44:349:44:37

Mary Had A Little Lamb.

9:44:379:44:38

Humpty Dumpty.

9:44:389:44:40

Ring A Ring O' Roses.

9:44:409:44:42

Erm...

9:44:459:44:47

And the Easter one is Chick, Chick, Chick, Chick, Chicken.

9:44:479:44:49

Two, three, five, seven, 11.

9:44:529:44:58

13, 17, 19.

9:44:589:45:00

Chinese, Indian, erm...

9:45:079:45:11

I'll go pitta... Kebab.

9:45:119:45:14

Seafood.

9:45:169:45:17

Er, Thai.

9:45:209:45:21

It was wonderful watching you go backwards in your life

9:45:299:45:32

to nursery rhymes.

9:45:329:45:33

Well, let's get the latest on Leeds, because the Rhinos were on the ropes

9:45:339:45:37

after a pummelling by Castleford.

9:45:379:45:39

The unbeaten Catalan Dragons were at Headingley on Friday

9:45:399:45:42

and there was a response though, wasn't there, from Leeds?

9:45:429:45:44

Yeah, this is exactly what you'd expect from the Leeds outfit.

9:45:449:45:48

They're always going to respond

9:45:489:45:49

but I think it was a little bit of desire from Leeds

9:45:499:45:52

and poor play from the Catalan Dragons.

9:45:529:45:55

Like we've said before, they look like a strong team and they look

9:45:559:45:59

like they could cause some damage

9:45:599:46:01

and there was a little bit of slack defence there from Leeds

9:46:019:46:03

but in this game, it's the response just that they wanted.

9:46:039:46:06

A lot of the tries came through the middle of the field as well,

9:46:069:46:08

some great off-loads as they do, off-the-cuff, but this is just soft.

9:46:089:46:12

That is not Catalans. It's not what they do,

9:46:129:46:14

it's not what they pride themselves on,

9:46:149:46:15

and I was a little bit disappointed in them, to be honest.

9:46:159:46:19

Is this the fluency that Leeds have been really lacking

9:46:199:46:22

in recent times, do you feel, coming back?

9:46:229:46:24

Yeah, they got Burrow and a couple of other key players back for them,

9:46:249:46:30

and Cuthbertson played pretty well,

9:46:309:46:32

he is off-loading all over the place.

9:46:329:46:34

He's a real threat when he does that,

9:46:349:46:36

and you spend a lot of attention on looking after him.

9:46:369:46:39

And there's some real soft defence, and I lost a couple of players

9:46:399:46:42

within this game, particularly Greg Bird.

9:46:429:46:45

That is a blow for them, isn't it?

9:46:459:46:46

That's a huge blow, because he has been a real pinnacle player

9:46:469:46:51

for them, he's come in and he's created a real toughness

9:46:519:46:54

about them as a team, so losing him is significant.

9:46:549:46:57

Lovely to see Rob Burrow doing what Rob Burrow does,

9:46:579:46:59

-though, wasn't it?

-Yeah, it just reminds me of watching him

9:46:599:47:02

in a Great Britain jersey, to be honest.

9:47:029:47:04

It was that sort of try, it takes you back a little bit.

9:47:049:47:06

But the skill on show here's absolutely fantastic.

9:47:069:47:08

And can you see the confidence coming back to them?

9:47:089:47:10

This is the best type of rugby that Leeds play.

9:47:109:47:13

Off-the-cuff and actually off-loading

9:47:139:47:15

and throwing the ball around.

9:47:159:47:16

When they do that, they're really dangerous.

9:47:169:47:18

It's when they go into the more structured

9:47:189:47:20

sort of play where they struggle a little bit.

9:47:209:47:21

Another great kick there for him to get onto the end of.

9:47:219:47:24

Leeds, they looked on fire and they looked like

9:47:249:47:26

they've got a bit of confidence back.

9:47:269:47:28

Because they are slightly off-the-cuff, when it's going badly,

9:47:289:47:31

does it look that much worse, do you think?

9:47:319:47:33

Yeah, well, different teams are different.

9:47:339:47:35

You look at Warrington, for example.

9:47:359:47:37

They play slightly different, but in a similar way to Leeds,

9:47:379:47:39

it's off-the-cuff, they pass the ball a hell of a lot,

9:47:399:47:42

flat, cross the line, and if it doesn't work,

9:47:429:47:44

what happens next? I suppose that's the difficulty.

9:47:449:47:48

But when it does work,

9:47:489:47:49

it's very difficult to defend against, as we've seen.

9:47:499:47:53

When they won the treble,

9:47:539:47:54

they were so difficult to defend against.

9:47:549:47:56

And they look quite similar, some of the way they were playing there,

9:47:569:47:59

Cuthbertson to the fore.

9:47:599:48:02

So yes, it's tough when you haven't got a significant plan

9:48:029:48:06

and you pass the ball.

9:48:069:48:07

I'm going to have to jump in on you, as we're running out of time.

9:48:079:48:10

So, Leeds get back to winning ways,

9:48:109:48:11

and this is where it's left them in the Betfred Super League.

9:48:119:48:14

The Rhinos are up to fourth, but it's still Castleford and Wigan

9:48:169:48:19

who lead the way with their 100% records.

9:48:199:48:22

Hull are in third.

9:48:229:48:23

Their victory on Friday leaves St Helens in the bottom three.

9:48:239:48:27

You can hear the Wolves game at Leigh on 5 Live Sports Extra

9:48:279:48:30

from 7:30pm on Thursday.

9:48:309:48:32

There's more Challenge Cup action online at one o'clock on Saturday.

9:48:329:48:36

That's Oldham against Haydock.

9:48:369:48:38

And the Super League Show returns at 11:30pm on Monday night

9:48:389:48:41

with a lunchtime repeat

9:48:419:48:42

at one o'clock on Tuesday.

9:48:429:48:44

That is it for this week.

9:48:459:48:47

My thanks to Darryl and to Eorl for joining us.

9:48:479:48:49

We'll see you next week. Goodbye.

9:48:499:48:51

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