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Men's Final Build-Up

Sue Barker and guests preview the men's singles final. There is also a look ahead to the mixed doubles final.


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For 140 years, this place has been synonymous with excellence, quality,

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history. Today, two men hope to write the latest chapter in that

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history. Like Spain's Garbine Muguruza yesterday, Croat Marin

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Cilic looks to be only the second player from his country to win here

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in singles. Eyeballing him across the net, arguably the greatest

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player ever to pick up a racket. Switzerland's Roger Federer has more

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than a win on his mind. For him, it is a date with destiny. It is time

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for the 2017 Wimbledon Men's Singles final. This is a national programme,

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now we are going to take you over to Wimbledon...

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String, simple, everyday... Ordinarily, but in tennis like

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music... It facilitates extraordinary things. Like an

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overhead cable... It transfers power. Electricity. Like a nerve

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impulses, tension... Pressure... Release. Like a vein, it carries

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lifeblood to the heart of the game. String is the concept that ties the

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to the present... And the future. 1889 and Britain's William Renshaw

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wins his seventh Wimbledon title. In 2000 the American Pete Sampras wins

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his seventh Wimbledon title. 2012, Roger Federer of Switzerland wins

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his seventh Wimbledon title. This trio entwined by shared history.

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Stretch the timeline to today, and just one has the chance to break the

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tie. But it's a fine line, for standing in his way is former US

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Open champion Marin Cilic. Hoping to strike his own accord. But with 18

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Grand Slam titles and counting... Who would bet against the greatest

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of all time? Becoming the greatest of all time here.

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COMMENTATOR: That is extraordinary! Pure genius. Brilliant! I love that.

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Arguably the greatest champion of all time.

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Roger Federer is the man who more than any other knows how to break

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the tape of the finish. SUE BARKER: the number is eight, the

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sign infinity, and today Roger Federer is a victory away from

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creating a record that could last for ever. Nobody in the 140 year

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history of the Men's Singles championships here has ever won

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eight titles. Today in his 11th Wimbledon singles final, he's aiming

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for major title number 19. Phenomenal, fabulous, fantastic -

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that is Roger Federer. This year, he has already won the Australian Open

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title and a few weeks shy of his 36th birthday he's aiming to become

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the oldest man in the modern era to win here. Over the past 13 days he's

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rolled back the years and not even dropped a set on the way to today's

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showdown. As for Cilic, he has been impressive on his way to a second

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Grand Slam final. He beat Federer on his way to winning the US Open in

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2014 and held match points against him here last year. He has the game

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for grass, is serve is fast and Federer will fear him. He is not

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without a chance by any means today. And this is what they are playing

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for, the challenge cup. It's made of silvergilt, 18 inches high and its

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value is priceless. As for the matter of prize-money, the winner

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will walk away with ?2.2 million. And so for the record, in draw

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order, it is seventh seed Cilic versus third seed Federer. The men's

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final is the feature much on this final day but following it there's a

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cracking Mixed Doubles final that includes a Battle of Britain as

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number one seed Jamie Murray and Martina Hingis face the defending

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champions, Kontinen and Watson. Hello and welcome to one of the

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great days of the sporting year. It is the men's final at Wimbledon and

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in this 90th year of the BBC celebrating covering the

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Championships, we could be in for a record-breaking ones if Roger

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Federer makes it an eighth title. It is packed here at Wimbledon, we have

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made it to the top of the hill. We are amongst the fans with Andrew

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Castle and Boris Becker. Boris, well done to you, Pat Cash and John

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McEnroe. What a performance that was! There is a potential new career

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for me, Pat and John. I'm not sure about the singing part but I'm glad

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everybody liked it. It's about numbers, we think of Andy Murray

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with 77 years on the 7th of July and all of that, then suddenly it is the

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eighth for Roger Federer, is it his year? To play Roger Federer at

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Wimbledon, for Marin Cilic to play somebody, I mean you know about

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these records. Federer has a presence here, finals day feels

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different, it is a whole different ball game and Federer brings

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presents which Cilic will feel on Centre Court today so he goes in

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heavily favoured to win once again. And he's just hitting the ball so

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unbelievably well. If Cilic plays out of his mind, he can win. If you

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have noticed he has been nervous couple of times, maybe the weight of

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history. It has been merely a long fight for him to be in that position

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again, for him to win this year is one of the biggest comebacks I have

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ever seen in tennis but the whole plan was last year taking time off

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to be in your best shape at this year's Wimbledon because this

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tournament means more than anything on the calendar. He's in the

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position but he's human, he has a heart even though we don't see it

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sometimes. He's such a genius we forget there is a heart beating

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underneath and he understands today is a moment of history and he can

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rewrite it. There is Federer on the practice court. He just makes the

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game look so easy, doesn't he? It's almost as much fun watching him

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practice as it is watching him play. It is so easy, he moves the racket

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like a magic wand. Whatever shot he wants to play, he has. As Boris was

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saying, that lovely mix between fitness and freshness and he is so

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fresh that every time he picks up a racket now he wants to play. Taking

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six month off, then winning the Australian was ridiculous, taking

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the entire clay court season and then coming here not losing a set is

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equally ridiculous. He says he feels great and he's confident and why

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not. He looks so relaxed. Marin Cilic is a danger man, isn't he?

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Very much so. Cilic had him on the brink of defeat before, both players

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will remember that walking out on the court that the last time they

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met here it was very close. Cilic has the full package on grass. He's

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six foot six but yet he has the movement. He doesn't mind coming

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into the net so he has the game to herd is Roger Federer. And a big

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wingspan as well. Yunus Bjorkman is a big deal today, he's the coach to

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Marin Cilic. He wants the transition game for Marin coming forward. He

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wants him to get the first hit in, to bring the big forehand into play,

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that's how he finished his semifinal. But the key thing about

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Bjorkman is the possibility that the Swede brings to his game. Don't

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guided, hit it. He can blow Federer off the court today. He wants him to

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be more intimidating on court, that's important when you want to be

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a champion. If you show one ounce of fear, the other guy will take

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advantage of it. Roger Federer was in this position 11 times so he

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knows everything there is to know what it feels like to walk on the

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Centre Court and win it. That has been the weakness in Cilic's game

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that he didn't always believe he can. He has to bring the glass is

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half full mentality. In the final everyone sees what you are going

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through. Nervous already! We will continue our build-up over the next

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45 minutes. Here is what's coming up. He's been playing here for two

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decades, Roger reveals his love for the early days. Where will today's

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match be won and lost? Pat Cash looks at both players' games. Can

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Marin match Goran Ivanisevic's victory? And can heap at the eight

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integrate? Roger Federer talks about his bid for history. So all of that

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coming up as we build up to the final but Andy, just a comment

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because we were watching on the big screen the wheelchair final. Yes,

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backing up the defence of the title for Gordon Reid and Hewitt now as

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well. The federation deserves a lot of credit the continuing to fund

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this so great news. Talk about competitive, you should see it out

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there, they were falling out of the chairs. They are so impressive in

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the way they play, and they have combine so well over

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the years. Yes, Jordanne Whiley has broken so many bones. It is sport at

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the highest level. Following on from Gordon Reid and Alfie Hewitt

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yesterday. OK, let's start our build-up now because we will start

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by looking back at the story of the men's championship, and it really

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has been a numbers game. For 2017 at SW19 reducing 128 of the

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regal one was the quest. The fabulous four were back on stage

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ready to reprise their greatest hits. The champion was limping into

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the tournament but this was no lame title defence through weak number

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one. Novak Djokovic was looking close to his best, Roger Federer was

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redefining imperious, Rafael Nadal was rattling through exciting fans

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on court and in-store. 999 might have been the first round call for

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the record equalling list of injured dropouts. The Centre Court emergency

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on day one. This last Wawrinka, 39 unforced errors in defeat. The

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number five seed out. The smaller upset saw John is never beaten. One

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win for trial Edmund and two for Bedene went on to marry -- meant

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Andy Murray was not a British work in isolation. Sorry didn't seem to

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be the hardest word. Dominic Thiem led the next generation into week

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number two followed by Zverev and Grigor Dimitrov. Only one dropped

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set between them in the fourth round, but then Thiem fell to Tomas

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Berdych. Rafael Nadal fought back against Muller, and after four hours

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and 47 minutes clinching the win of his life. The fabulous four no more

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and soon just one remained. Andy Murray led Sam Querrey 2-1 in the

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quarterfinals only for his hip to betray him. The top seed and

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reigning champion gone and so too the number two, Novak Djokovic

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elbowed out of Wimbledon in his match against Tomas Berdych. Federer

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avenged the last year's loss to Raonic. Tomas Berdych battles but

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eventually bowed to greatness. One must opponent to conquer for the

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Swiss master, Marin Cilic, baby Goran all grown up. He squashed Sam

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Querrey's dream in the semis. Only two remain but one is the magic

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number because only one can wear the crown.

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SUE BARKER: and we will find out at the end of the afternoon but Doris,

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how do you look back at this year's championships? So many stories

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there. It was always about the big four. The legend is in the final and

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I think history will prevail. And for you, Andy? The first week, there

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were some guys on the court who shouldn't have been and Wimbledon

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have to look at that. When the whole thing got going it was amazing. It's

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always a shame to lose Rafael Nadal but Muller was marvellous. In

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amongst all the trees you have this beautiful tennis player called Roger

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Federer. Another of the talking point has been the condition of the

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courts with a lot of players criticising them so how is Centre

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Court prepared for today and how will it stack up after two weeks of

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wear and tear? We have been speaking to the head groundsman.

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Can you tell us how preparations have gone for Centre Court ahead of

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the final? It has gone very well. The Men's Doubles went longer than

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anticipated but that is the beauty of tennis. The roof was on, once we

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got the court prepared afterwards the guys were out by 11:30pm, back

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in this morning and everything is ready to go. A few of the big names

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have been critical about the courts this year, what do you say to them?

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It is a living surface, it is a plant we are playing on.

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Year-on-year the weather will play a big part. This year we have had the

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second hottest June in history, only surpassed by 1976, so going into the

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Championships when we are drying the court down, the plant stresses out

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because we are not giving it the water it needs, to get the firmness

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for the court. But the data tells us the grass density, the relative ball

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bounce our role within the range we are looking for. Therefore perhaps

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visit down to the players? Sometimes it can be aesthetic. The grass has

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been sunburnt this year because it has been constantly hot so although

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the court was playing well it may have looked different and that's one

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of the reasons they might be saying it. Neil, thank you for your time.

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It has been a big talking point, hasn't it? Andy, what did you make

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of it? All of the courts are playing like they have been baked, which is

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exactly what Neil was talking about. Someone loves you, Sue, that's nice!

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Has my husband arrived? This is alive court, it is a growing thing

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and the fact it changes over time is wonderful. This year it happened to

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be fast and hard and it suits Marin Cilic very much. It's also high

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bouncing. Boris, you have played in the final after two weeks of wear

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and tear so it's often a bit cut up. We had a heat wave believe it or

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not, the whole month of June was hotter than normal. Having said

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that, players will use and abuse the court but it is still good enough to

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play perfect tennis. No matter what the condition of the court is you

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certainly need a plan to win the slam so we have asked Pat Cash to

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look at the key areas where this match may be won.

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30 years ago it was me who was walking out on the terrace Centre

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Court for my first Wimbledon final taking on one of the greatest

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players of all time. -- walking out onto the Centre Court.

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This time it is Marin Cilic's turn. It turned out all right for me in

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the end but will it be the same for Marin? While his service his

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greatest strength, it is the return is making the difference at this

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year's Wimbledon. He is giving himself more time when returning

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service compared to last year. In particular on the second serve

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return he has varied his position significantly. By giving himself

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more time, Cilic can be more aggressive with his returns,

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illustrated by his average return speeds which are considerably higher

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than Roger's. But playing Roger Federer is a different ball game

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compared to what is Marin Cilic has faced so far. When it comes to

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serving statistics, Roger's are better than anyone. When he is

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serving to the second court, it has been the slice down the middle that

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has been most effective but only marginally. The server down the

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middle on the first court has really made the difference. He has won 93%

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of the points when he's gone there throughout the tournament so what

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will give her Johan Cruyff his best chance of victory? He has got to

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forget what the occasion is all about. He's got to keep serving and

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returning as he has been, and especially on his forehand side he

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has to keep going for those winners. That is easier said than done and

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handling the pressure has not always been one of his strengths. Look at

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the three match points he had against Federer last year. Look at

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those backhand misses he had in the first set tie-breaker against

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Querrey. He needs to believe in his all-round strength. His volleying is

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better than he believes it is and I feel he could use it more here. He

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needs to volley with confidence in this final. Much has been made about

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Roger's age but he will be coming to the final the fresher of the two.

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Cilic has been on court four and a half hours longer than his opponent

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in this Championships. Very interesting. Interesting about

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the service statistics, Roger is the best one. Yes, and not because of

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the power but the effectiveness he gets it through the placement.

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What's interesting was the middle line is always the one you are

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aiming for because on the deuce side you can aim the ball so it is flying

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outside of the court and hitting the line at the last moment, and on the

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outside it takes it away from the returner. I think those are the

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reasons Roger has been so strong. As we saw last year, Cilic 2-0 up and

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three match points against Roger. And he has beaten him in the US Open

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in 2014, that was a big match as well. These are the points that if

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he had won he would have taken it. He has been very close before. The

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talk in the locker room has been Cilic and his form. The talk is when

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he beat Bautista Agut, his form is certainly good enough to beat

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Federer and win this. As it turns out this is the last time Roger

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Federer came back from two sets down a year ago. Roger has already said

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he knows he is in for a battle today. Both players respect each

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other a lot. In Roger Federer's case he hasn't lost to too many but he

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lost to Cilic. The question is always Wimbledon final, who is meant

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to win? There are little differences. A couple of points, the

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physicality of it, but both men will run as long as their legs carry

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them. What happens after the match doesn't matter. It is all about

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today, I think who can cope with the pressure most. So much is at stake.

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We will find out and move closer to Centre Court to save the atmosphere.

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Boris, I will see you there later. Andrew, you are preparing for your

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15th. It is such an honour. And you are number? 25. It is men's finals

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day and so many great former champions are here, and Phil Jones

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caught up with a Wimbledon legend, the much respected Rod Laver, who

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was a big fan of Roger. Just unbelievable to think that Roger has

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a career so long having won 18 Grand Slams, at his age, but he loves the

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sport. I saw him down in Melbourne winning the Australian, and he

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played so beautifully. His concentration, everything was

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unbelievable. I think Roger has my vote as being the best player in the

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world. Today's match will be a tough one as I see it, Cilic has good

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serving ability and heavy ground strokes which generally, once Roger

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gets into the play, he dictates a little bit. Can he dictate with

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these heavy ground strokes? That to me is a difficult one. What about

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Roger the man? You know him well. He seems to be adored worldwide and

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that is rare in sport. He is the most favoured athlete in the world.

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Everybody likes him and I think that is the one area that puts him apart.

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He doesn't feel that he has to live up to this reputation, he's just

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Roger. This year he changed his attitude and his lifestyle so that

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he had three months off before the Australian. He didn't play the

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European circuit so I think he's thinking how long can this keep for

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me? Myself, I think he's playing almost as well as he did in 2007,

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2008 when he won here all the time so from that level, he is sort of

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superhuman. Lovely to see the great man here.

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Roger is not only loved by Rod, he is loved by so many and it's almost

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20 years since he first played here. Before Wimbledon began, I caught up

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with him about those early days. Take me back to those junior days.

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You grew up watching Wimbledon, what was your first impression of the

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club? Just so happy to be there. Great moment walking through the

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gates and asking where is the locker room and where can we warm up, what

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are we allowed to do, when do we play, what's the routines and all of

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these things. Everything was so new and it's like living a dream world.

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Do you remember your first match? Yes, it was between Court One and

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Centre Court, one of the upper courts there. I played I think the

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German or and Austrian, another junior, and I was so nervous but won

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the match quite comfortably thankfully. I read that you thought

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the net was not the quite height. That is true, I was so nervous that

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after about five games I went to the umpire and asked him, can you please

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check the net? I have a feeling it is way too high because I cannot

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serve and it felt odd the whole thing. He was like I checked it

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before the match, we always do here at Wimbledon. I was like, yes, but

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do you mind still checking it downstairs and see if it is really

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correct. He said I told you so, I was right. I was so nervous it was

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terrible. Do you have one match that stands out for you? Yes, I liked the

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junior Wimbledon finals because winning or losing the finals was a

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big deal, then getting the trophy presented on Centre Court in the

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stands in the royal box was very special. Ireland I was very nervous

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because they made us wait in the enclosure right behind the royal

:29:13.:29:17.

box. So I could be in the locker room where Bjorn Borg and John

:29:18.:29:21.

McEnroe and everybody used to play, so that was cool. I think in the

:29:22.:29:26.

2000 and a quarter round against Pete Sampras was my special match

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that made it all so worthwhile, all of the hard work. Then I realised

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how much fun tennis can really be. The week before you are practising,

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do you often sneak on Centre Court alone? Not so much, I am not the guy

:29:42.:29:46.

that tries to visualise what could happen for the next few weeks. Or

:29:47.:29:55.

look back even? Or look back for that matter. I enjoy sometimes

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having a small glance, I love having a small glands at Court Number One

:30:01.:30:06.

which is easier, you can quickly walk a few steps up and see Court

:30:07.:30:11.

One and everything is so neatly done at Wimbledon. It is these little

:30:12.:30:16.

moments wherever you go that bring flashbacks, you know from some

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history, for me personally but also from other amazing matches being

:30:22.:30:22.

played there. Lovely stories from Roger and we

:30:23.:30:32.

will hear more from hemp in his pursuit of greatness in around 20

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minutes time. I am almost at Centre Court to chat to John McEnroe and

:30:37.:30:46.

Tim Henman. Now we will hear from Rishi Persad who has been talking to

:30:47.:30:51.

Jonas Bjorkman. Can you give us an idea of how Marin

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is feeling about the battle ahead?... He is feeling great. I'm

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very pleased with his performance. He played really good high quality

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tennis again. He executed well when he needed. How much has he changed

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during your spell with him? Have you had a lot to work on Norway you

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picking up with things he had worked on with Goran? I do not think I have

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done much. He was a great player from the start. We are just a few

:31:25.:31:29.

things. We have been working to make him a little bit more aggressive. We

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have been working on the body language. I think he is coming out,

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showing that he is two metres tall, number six in the world, to

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intimidate the guys a little bit more. I think that has been very

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good. Obviously, the clay-court swing was very important. We had a

:31:52.:31:54.

really good practice camp before and he had his best clay-court season

:31:55.:31:57.

ever so he came in with a lot of confidence. And the preparation

:31:58.:32:01.

heading into Wimbledon was really good I am sure you do not want to

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give away too much, but he has had battles with Roger Federer. What

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specifically do you need to do to beat the great man?

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By far the toughest match you can have in Wimbledon, he knows if there

:32:18.:32:25.

are any bad bounces and exactly where there are. I think Marin knows

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what it takes to win a Grand Slam. Not many have done that in this

:32:33.:32:39.

great era of true champions. He beat Roger on the way to win his New York

:32:40.:32:46.

US Open title. He had a big battle here last year, one point away. I

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think there are a lot of things you can take with you. Even though he

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lost, he knows exactly what to do so I have a good feeling. Thank you,

:32:57.:33:02.

enjoy the final. Thank you. A very wise coach and he

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has certainly made a big difference to Marin Cilic's game. We have made

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our way down from Henman Hill to meet the man himself alongside John

:33:13.:33:15.

McEnroe. Just listening to Jonas Bjorkman, he said he wants them to

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be more intimidating on court, to impose himself more. I noticed when

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Milos Raonic, who I was coaching last year, and saw him play the

:33:30.:33:32.

quarterfinal, it appeared that Roger Federer was hitting a bigger ball

:33:33.:33:35.

than he was. He is four inches taller but it did not feel like he

:33:36.:33:38.

was serving much harder. I think it is extremely important for Marin to

:33:39.:33:42.

express himself. I think you gain respect from the fans and people

:33:43.:33:47.

watching, by showing how badly you want it. People feel like they

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understand you a little bit. And then they respect you. It is not

:33:52.:33:57.

like they will be pulling for Cilic all of a sudden. 90% plus people

:33:58.:34:03.

will be rooting for Roger. I know what that feels like. A couple of

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times I played a guy, it is hard to believe, but there were times when

:34:09.:34:13.

Bjorn Borg was going for history, he was going for nine in a row. That

:34:14.:34:20.

was 99% support. I was in the general vicinity! Not too many guys

:34:21.:34:24.

get booed as you come out. You have to overcome that and embrace it. I

:34:25.:34:28.

still felt extremely proud that I was out on the same court as him.

:34:29.:34:34.

That is one way of taking the pressure off. I saw me Raonic

:34:35.:34:39.

appeared to freeze a little bit in the final last year. I think Marin

:34:40.:34:46.

Cilic will be helped by the fact he has been there before. Exactly, that

:34:47.:34:51.

will make a difference. He got to the US Open final and won it. And

:34:52.:34:58.

who did he beat in the semifinals in New York? That was three straight

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sets. He bullied him. He was so aggressive. He served well when he

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got the opportunities from the back of the court. He was really looking

:35:07.:35:10.

to take time away from Roger and I think the reality is, when you talk

:35:11.:35:15.

about the match today, Roger is not going to lose it, Cilic has got to

:35:16.:35:20.

win it. Roger's experience in Grand Slam finals of enormous. This is his

:35:21.:35:26.

11th final here. Cilic has to go out with that correct attitude. The

:35:27.:35:38.

amazing part for me was he came from match point down against Monfils,

:35:39.:35:45.

and we thought age was catching up with him because his body did not

:35:46.:35:50.

seem to be there. Now all of a sudden he is 35, almost 36, and we

:35:51.:35:57.

are not really talking about... People ask where their days when you

:35:58.:36:02.

felt you just woke up one day? Yes, there were not many days when I woke

:36:03.:36:07.

up and felt better. That is what is so amazing. We're not saying this

:36:08.:36:11.

guy can just get up and he has a lot of tennis and him, he may not be

:36:12.:36:17.

feeling it. What happened to Venus in the second set yesterday? To

:36:18.:36:21.

completely went away. Some of that had to be physical. Absolutely.

:36:22.:36:25.

Let's hear from another former champion. In 2001 Goran Ivanisevic

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won that title on that magical Monday up against Pat Rafter. He was

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coaching Marin Cilic not long ago. If he wins, Cilic will be the second

:36:36.:36:41.

Croatian to win the title. Who better to talk about him than Goran

:36:42.:36:46.

himself? My first memories of playing tennis

:36:47.:36:51.

were when I was in Germany visiting my cousin Tanya who was two years

:36:52.:36:57.

older that time, and still is. I met him when he was 14 years old. I

:36:58.:37:04.

predicted he would be a top ten player in the world and I was right.

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Blip from Cilic. That is delightful. Everybody knows about forehand and

:37:14.:37:17.

backhand that you have to have something special. I call it

:37:18.:37:22.

something. So he had something. We had huge success in working together

:37:23.:37:27.

and Goran is a really easy going guy and everything we did was for me to

:37:28.:37:34.

get better as a player. I had a vision about how he was to play in

:37:35.:37:40.

the beginning, it was about resistance. In the end he changed

:37:41.:37:43.

his serve and his way of thinking on the court and became much more

:37:44.:37:49.

aggressive. It was a great relationship. The US Open in 2014

:37:50.:37:55.

was a dream country. It was a beautiful moment. In a moment of

:37:56.:38:00.

euphoria for Federer, a moment to ponder the pain that Marin Cilic

:38:01.:38:05.

must be feeling right now. It was definitely disappointing. It was one

:38:06.:38:08.

of those losses where you are thinking you would like to play them

:38:09.:38:12.

again and rewind. Looking back on that match I felt that I took a lot

:38:13.:38:18.

of positives out of that match and that helps me to play better, to be

:38:19.:38:23.

mentally stronger and to feel I am a better player because of that.

:38:24.:38:28.

Everybody will be for Roger. But if he plays like he is playing at the

:38:29.:38:33.

moment, if he goes and hits the ball, if he is serving well, the

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finals, you know, it is always 50-50. Hopefully people don't see me

:38:39.:38:45.

more mean. I am still a nice person. I am trying to be more encouraging

:38:46.:38:51.

towards myself. After every point he is more pumped, more positive than

:38:52.:38:55.

before. It makes you a better tennis player and you have better results.

:38:56.:39:02.

That's it! At last, the waiting is over.

:39:03.:39:08.

Goran made history and filled the hearts of all Croatian people who

:39:09.:39:12.

were supporting him. I was crazy. When I was supposed to win Wimbledon

:39:13.:39:16.

I didn't. When I was not supposed to win, I still don't know how I won it

:39:17.:39:22.

but it doesn't matter. Got it at the 11th time of asking for Marin Cilic.

:39:23.:39:29.

Opportunity knocks. It will be another dream country. This result

:39:30.:39:34.

is also writing Croatian history on another amazing day in Croatian

:39:35.:39:38.

sport. You don't want to lose in the final, trust me. You get a nice

:39:39.:39:44.

looking plate but it is a huge difference. I lost three times in

:39:45.:39:50.

the final and nobody cares. When you win a tournament, I think the whole

:39:51.:39:56.

world knows. And emotional Goran there. Liberty

:39:57.:40:00.

wants the plate. You are only remembered if you win there. First,

:40:01.:40:05.

you want to get it. There is no question that he won when he

:40:06.:40:08.

shouldn't have won and he may be lost when he should have won. He has

:40:09.:40:13.

been through every aspect of that emotional roller-coaster that we

:40:14.:40:16.

call the Wimbledon championships so he is a good guide to ask. I think

:40:17.:40:21.

he made Cilic when they worked together, much more of a believer in

:40:22.:40:26.

himself, battler, much tougher. I think when they broke up Marin was a

:40:27.:40:29.

little bit lost for a while, trying to figure out what to do next. If

:40:30.:40:41.

you look at his record this year, he had a losing record in the first

:40:42.:40:44.

half of this year. With Bjorkman he has finally tapped into ad now it is

:40:45.:40:48.

looking rosy for him. Goran is putting the pressure on him.

:40:49.:40:54.

Absolutely! Tim, as far as analysing the game, you have been looking at a

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couple of aspects, first of all the first serve on the first point? You

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always want to make strong starts. They serve will always be an

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important part of Cilic's armoury. Against Sam Querrey he did such a

:41:11.:41:13.

good job of getting off to a good start winning that point. Think the

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statistic I looked at earlier, I think they played 23 service games

:41:24.:41:26.

and 21 of them Cilic was able to win the first point. When you are giving

:41:27.:41:29.

yourself that platform, it frees you up to be more aggressive. It is

:41:30.:41:34.

better to be playing 15-0 on your server then when you are behind

:41:35.:41:39.

0-15. That is something he will have to do against Federer. There we go,

:41:40.:41:49.

I was right! 21 of 23 points. It gives you that foundation to be

:41:50.:41:54.

aggressive. Federer is a great front runner. If he is holding serve you

:41:55.:42:01.

will feel the pressure. Imposed two games he was broken. I would think

:42:02.:42:07.

the right-handed players are whining and saying the lefties have the

:42:08.:42:11.

advantage. They get the lead and there is your stat to back it up so

:42:12.:42:18.

quiet! It is a big serve, isn't it? He is a big guy so he has a big

:42:19.:42:27.

serve. His volleys have improved. He has a lot of skills. Listen, it is

:42:28.:42:30.

the same with Roger. I bet if you looked at the stat there it would be

:42:31.:42:36.

similar type of stat. He has better serving stats actually! Denton shows

:42:37.:42:42.

Cilic that! We will not. He has got to break Roger. Cilic is standing

:42:43.:42:50.

further back, I think to give him a little more time, but when he does

:42:51.:42:56.

that he is being more aggressive. A guy who is six foot six has a huge

:42:57.:43:02.

reach. He is there it difficult to ace. If you are going out wide you

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had better hit your spots. I think one of the interesting aspects,

:43:08.:43:12.

especially on the second serve, is to see if Federer will go into the

:43:13.:43:18.

body to try and tie him up and get a defensive reply. Certainly, whether

:43:19.:43:21.

Cilic is going to disband in which she has not been doing, he has been

:43:22.:43:28.

standing back, he has got to be very aggressive to get that first strike

:43:29.:43:33.

in the rally. It will be difficult because Roger is better than anyone

:43:34.:43:41.

at Angling you. We can see from 2016 Cilic was hitting only 1% of returns

:43:42.:43:46.

further back, 72% just behind the baseline.

:43:47.:43:52.

This year he has hit 35 from behind the baseline but 32% further back.

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There is no point at returning from further back if you are not being

:44:02.:44:05.

aggressive. He has given more time to say I will have a big cut at this

:44:06.:44:10.

and get the first strike him. You know what Roger will do, he will mix

:44:11.:44:16.

it up with second serve and some serve and volley. You have to be

:44:17.:44:18.

precise which other players did not do. He is too smart for this stuff.

:44:19.:44:27.

I know! There is a reason why it is his 11th final! It is incredible and

:44:28.:44:36.

we will be a turning our attention to Roger now. There are big crowds

:44:37.:44:43.

here. Talking of Roger Federer, he is now one match away from becoming

:44:44.:44:47.

the most successful male singles player here at Wimbledon. His

:44:48.:44:52.

talents are unparalleled which leaves even tennis talent in North.

:44:53.:45:02.

Roger Federer is one of those rare athletes who seems to be exempt from

:45:03.:45:07.

certain physical laws. Roger is the most beautiful player I have ever

:45:08.:45:15.

watched. A creature who combines both flesh and somehow life. He has

:45:16.:45:21.

a superpower we do not know about. Time stops for him. It defies logic.

:45:22.:45:33.

He is a complete tennis player. The greatest of all time. Roger, you are

:45:34.:45:40.

so loved here at Wimbledon, but around the world, I wonder how you

:45:41.:45:44.

feel when you hear that and you know that love?

:45:45.:45:51.

It is a big deal for me. From time to time I thank the crowd to make

:45:52.:45:58.

sure they understand I appreciate their support. In terms of the

:45:59.:46:01.

achievement of winning an eighth title here, I think maybe Jack

:46:02.:46:07.

Nicholas winning the Masters, Muhammad Ali winning the Rumble in

:46:08.:46:10.

the jungle, how do you feel about it? I have not thought about

:46:11.:46:15.

comparing these finals to something else. I think in the years 2007,

:46:16.:46:21.

eight, nine, ten, when I was chasing a lot of the big records in sport

:46:22.:46:25.

and I was able to break some of them, the records gave me an extra

:46:26.:46:30.

source of motivation and inspired me to train harder, be professional,

:46:31.:46:33.

keep doing what I am doing, Love what I am doing, get to meet the

:46:34.:46:38.

greats of the game. I had these moments at Wimbledon and I know when

:46:39.:46:42.

I step on court against Cilic, I will be ready for the occasion. It

:46:43.:46:46.

will not be too big. I will be ready for it. There was a famous quote you

:46:47.:46:51.

gave when you are 15 saying one should be able to play the perfect

:46:52.:46:55.

game, you did not just think you could win there would be the perfect

:46:56.:47:00.

way of winning. When I said that, I was referring to missing one

:47:01.:47:06.

forehand. I will accept that. The second one, getting aggravated. The

:47:07.:47:10.

third one, the racquet had to go. Tennis is a funny sport. I feel like

:47:11.:47:14.

I can always do better. I have trained so much over the years.

:47:15.:47:17.

Eventually, the progress is so minimal but it is in the details. I

:47:18.:47:23.

think I am still seeking that perfect game, perfect tournament. I

:47:24.:47:28.

will never find it but it keeps me practising and wanting to improve.

:47:29.:47:39.

Your last title in 2012, this is 2017, can you compare and contrast

:47:40.:47:43.

the Roger then and the Roger now? Yes, I think it is the easiest

:47:44.:47:48.

comparison. 2012, the first time I won Wimbledon as a dad. If I was to

:47:49.:47:55.

win with my boys this time around, it would be very special so I will

:47:56.:47:57.

try. Just perfect, isn't he? He even

:47:58.:48:15.

juggles four kids perfectly. She had better had a tissue when she is

:48:16.:48:20.

interviewing him because she is dribbling. We were talking about

:48:21.:48:25.

Venus yesterday. This is the most incredible sporting story. Trying to

:48:26.:48:31.

come up with a player who is better. He went through some issues. He

:48:32.:48:39.

would have said he may not win it again after 2012. There was a slight

:48:40.:48:42.

decline. The way he left the court last year after the semis and then

:48:43.:48:48.

he does not play for six months. You can fade is arguable that he is

:48:49.:48:52.

better than he was five or eight or ten years ago. We are not just

:48:53.:48:57.

blowing smoke up people's you know what! It is actually true that he is

:48:58.:49:04.

better. On that note... Send him to American TV! But it is right, it is

:49:05.:49:11.

just incredible. I think the ATP must be worried because players will

:49:12.:49:15.

be thinking they have to manage their bodies like Rafa and Roger

:49:16.:49:20.

have. Anyone that can afford it, there is no question. I do not think

:49:21.:49:28.

joke of it will play at the open -- Djokovic will play. You will see

:49:29.:49:34.

Rafa do it, Roger continued to do it. But guess what, he wants to win

:49:35.:49:38.

this and be number one for the year at 36 years old. He is probably

:49:39.:49:45.

going to do it. Exactly. Who are you going for today before you go? I

:49:46.:49:50.

know you have to dash. As always I hope for a good final and I hope

:49:51.:49:54.

Marin steps up and nothing happens to Roger in the way that Venus

:49:55.:49:58.

seemed to have every intention. I guess it is

:49:59.:50:11.

possible, but I am going to go with Roger in four sets. OK, Mac, thank

:50:12.:50:15.

you for everything and all your comments over the last two weeks.

:50:16.:50:17.

You were great, Tim. The countdown is on,

:50:18.:50:21.

the atmosphere's building, and if you've just joined us

:50:22.:50:23.

here on BBC One, Roger Federer and Marin Cilic will walk out

:50:24.:50:26.

on centre court in 10 minutes' time to contest the men's singles

:50:27.:50:29.

final here at Wimbledon. It's one of the biggest

:50:30.:50:31.

days in world sport,

:50:32.:50:35.

Sue Barker and guests preview this afternoon's men's singles final between Marin Cilic and Roger Federer. There is also a look ahead to the mixed doubles final, Jamie Murray and Martina Hingis v Henri Kontinen and Heather Watson.