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Flog It has taken me to all corners of the British Isles, and I've met | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
some wonderful people and done all sorts of interesting things. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Over the years, I've really enjoyed getting my hands dirty, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
learning about different traditional rural industries. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
I've loved meeting the men and women who are keeping little bits of our heritage very much alive. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:32 | |
Coming up in the programme, I break my back dry stone walling | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
and I meet someone who might have the best office view I can imagine. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
Firstly, when Flog It visited Shropshire, I took a trip to the countryside | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
to meet a man who gives a whole new definition to landscape gardening. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
This part of Britain is very strong in rural heritage and hundreds of | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
people still work on the land, keeping that tradition alive. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Here in Bridgnorth in Shropshire they're repairing the hedges. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
It's an art form which has survived centuries. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Up until the invention of wire, it was the most economical | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
and practical way of retaining livestock in a field. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Of course, like all rural crafts, the skill of hedge laying is an art form | 0:01:21 | 0:01:26 | |
and Carl has been doing for it years. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
And he's going to tell me all about it. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Hi, Carl. Are you all right there? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
-Morning. Fine, thanks. -You're doing a fantastic job. Look at that. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
Obviously you're working in that direction? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
You seem to be felling these blackthorn or hawthorn trees? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Yeah, mostly blackthorn, with the big spiny thorns on them. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
-So you just lop them off.. -No, we don't touch the tops. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
All the cutting's done at the base. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
Are you cutting right through? | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
No, we're only going two-thirds to three-quarters of the way through. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
There's enough bark and sap wood to keep feeding that tree. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
Will this reshoot as well? | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Yes, everywhere we've cut it and where I've cut a branch off, just like pruning your roses. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:08 | |
-Pruning a rose, exactly. -You'll get new shoots coming up off here in the spring. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
So you're rejuvenating the hedge. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
And obviously making that a lot denser where you need it, so nothing can crawl through. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
-No, thoroughly hedgehog-proof! -So, why are you laying the hedge, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
forcing it in one direction like that and not this way? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
We're on a hillside here. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
I've started at the top of the hill and worked my way down. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
When you think about it, if you try bending a tree one way or the other, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
if you lay them up towards the slope you've not got to bend it so far, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
so you're not putting so much stress on the wood you're bending. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
So we always start at the top of the hill and then work our way back down, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
laying the trees towards the top. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
Yes. This is very labour intense, isn't it? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
How long has this section here? | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
-That's about two days' work we're looking at there, about 30 metres of hedgerow. -Gosh. | 0:02:54 | 0:03:00 | |
Well, you think it's slow, yeah? I mean, it's a bit of an old hedge. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
You get a nice young hedge | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
and you might be doing that in one day, 30 or 40 metres in a day. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
How do you keep it stable? I've noticed you've got some poles through the middle. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
Yes. The blackthorn does cling together very well but we put stakes in as well. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:19 | |
In fact, we're about ready for another one now. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
These are hazel. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Cut from a local woodland. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:26 | |
We've got ash as well. Put a point on the end. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
We just drop that in, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
lean it back at a slight angle against the trees that we've laid. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
And then just drive that in a few inches. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
-It's as simple as that? -Yeah. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:43 | |
It must be very rewarding. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
-It is very satisfying. -You must stand back... | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
You're actually drawing a line on the landscape yourself. You're part of it. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
Gosh, look at these! | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
They look like lethal weapons. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:05 | |
I'm going to get Carl to tell me all about them. Carl! | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
I think they date from the 19th century. They're quite early. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Why do they vary in shape and size and what are they called? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
Regional variations on a theme, really. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
This large one I work with every day, that's known as a Yorkshire billhook. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
This is a Bristol. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
That's a Norfolk. That's a Leicester. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Small one on the end is a Stafford. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
It's a story of evolution. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
Local craftsmen working with local blacksmiths initially, asking, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
"Can I have a bit more of a hook on this one, or a little notch on the top of one?" | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
The Yorkshire one looks like you'd get a bit more welly on the job. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
Exactly, it's got a bit more weight to it. It's almost like having a small axe. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
In Flog It tradition, I've got to have a little go. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Which billhook can I borrow, please? | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
I suggest the one on the end. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Carl's looking really worried! | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Keeps you fit. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
I've got it. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
You certainly warm up quickly. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
There, that's my bit done. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
The beautiful thing about hedge laying is effectively, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
you're creating a living fence, which has huge benefits. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
It's a way of managing the trees, it provides a microclimate for new | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
shoots to grow and a habitat for birds and other wildlife to live in. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
It's so environmentally friendly. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
The only downside is, it takes two days to do 15 to 20 metres and it is hard work. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
And on wintry days like this, it's very important to keep another tradition alive and kicking, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:38 | |
and that's the art of brewing up tea. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
Oh, thank you, Carl, that's good timing! | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Hedge laying isn't the only way of enclosing the land. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
In some parts of Britain, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
it's stone that's proved the better raw material. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
In the Pennines, dry stone walls are used to manage the land. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Dry stone walling isn't just of agricultural interest. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
In a sense, it's living history. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
It's a legacy to the movement towards the enclosure | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
of common farming land and grazing land, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
as English society moved out of feudalism. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
As individual land owners abandoned arable farming in favour of raising sheep and cattle, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
these dry stone walls were used to enclose parcels of land. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
They may look simple, but they're made with nothing but stone and the skill of the builder. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
Now, there's something quite comfortably reassuring about | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
the skills and techniques used in building these walls because they've stayed the same for centuries. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
I've come to meet Chris Wake who's keeping this wonderful tradition very much alive. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
-He's here somewhere. Hello! -Hello. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
This is a stunning project. What is it, what are you working on? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
This particular project's for a local lady who has the guesthouse down there. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
She's decided she wants it all rewalling. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
I presume just to make it more pleasant on the eye looking out of the house. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
-What do you think this was? -I think it was probably a herb garden | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
or maybe something for agriculture, for little animals. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Maintaining livestock. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
-So when does it date back to? -Probably a couple of hundred years ago. -How did you get into it? | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
I first started doing this when I was about 12, working on a local farm. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
So you're looking about 20, 25 years now. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
That's a long time. How many miles of wall do you think you've built? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
-I wouldn't like to say! -I bet it's a lot. -I wouldn't like to say. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
Probably from here, right round the Dales! | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
I must say, the base is a lot wider than you think it would be. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I'm just going to sit on your string line. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Do you use this principle the same as the modern day bricklayer? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
It keeps the wall straight and also you can find a course height? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Yeah, that's what it's there for. It keeps it straight. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
As you're going up, it tapers it in a bit so it doesn't fall over. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
-Is that why you need an A-frame like that? -Yep. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
-So it just tapers into the right part? -Yep. At the top, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
it's narrow enough to put your top stones on. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Look at the size of these stones at the bottom. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
That's back-breaking! | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
It's certainly hard work and especially if you get three this size | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
all the time, and you wall it across the joint like this. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-Always across the joint? -Always. You have two stones on top of one. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
If possible, always try and get your stones lengthways in, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
so they have more hold into the middle of the wall. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
End in, end out, that's how the saying is. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
It looks like they're chopped into fashion and there's no cutting? | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
-There's nothing? -Not with this job. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
It's all natural stone. There's a little hammering but not a lot. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:42 | |
This section looks fantastic. You've obviously worked on this. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Do you have to pull all of this down just to start again, or will you repair on top of what's left? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
No, it'll all come back down, it'll all be renewed. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
Chris, I've got to have a go. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
I've got to lay a few foundation stones here in this wall, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
-put my mark on Yorkshire. -Feel free! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
-You've got the hang of it. -I've got the hang of it - | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
I shied off the really big one! | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
Backache, now! | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
I tell you what, I'm pleased with that. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
I think we've done quite well in such a short space of time. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
We've gone up a couple of courses and it looks great. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Thatched cottages are an integral part of the British rural landscape | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
and maintaining these buildings | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
is a traditional craft that dates back centuries. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
As long as people continue to live in these cottages, we're going to need thatchers. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
Thatched buildings date back 1,000s of years and it's generally agreed | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
in this country from, let's say, the Neolithic period | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
through to the late medieval times, that most buildings were thatched. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
That's mainly due to the local resources being plentiful and affordable. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
Until the 17th century, thatch was the most widespread form of roofing in Britain, but the wider | 0:10:09 | 0:10:16 | |
availability of other materials, such as slate, meant a decline in thatching in the late 18th century. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:22 | |
But thankfully the industry didn't decline completely and work still continues today | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
at a steady pace for the 900 or so thatchers still working in Britain. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
One of those chaps who's keeping the tradition alive for future generations to appreciate | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
here in Somerset is Master Thatcher, Lee Roadhouse. Pleased to meet you. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
How did you get into thatching? | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
It's something I've been always fascinated by. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I've always enjoyed the simpler elements of life, so to speak. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
I actually started spar making, which is these, when I was about 13. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
-And then started going on holidays... -What are they for? | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
These are the hazel pegs you can fix the roof on with. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
-You tend to twist them up and that becomes a peg. -It's like a cleat. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
Yeah, it holds it all on. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
And I progressed from there. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Carried on in school holidays and then just went on as I left school. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
This must bring back some memories. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
My notes tell me when you were an apprentice, you actually worked on this very cottage we're working on. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
Yeah, that was about 18, 19 years ago. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Can you see remnants of your past work here? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
Yeah, it's funny. When you look around, nothing else has changed | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
and that's part of the fascination with this. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
It's such a simple process, yet so effective, and you're not baffled with science and it works. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
-It's quite labour intense? -Very labour intensive. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
You do know when you've done a day's work. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Keeps you fit! | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Right. So we're up here. This would be the average size armful and all the ears have to face upwards? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
Get all your reed facing the same way. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
You sort of literally pitch it down. That's basically squaring all the reeds so it's all down to the bottom. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:05 | |
And cleaned out. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
You open out the reeds, make sure there is no cross-eyed reeds in there. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Put it into place, and literally you, sort of, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
put it back into place with your hand, just roughly. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
I mean, you've just gauged an armful, haven't you? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
-Yeah. -That is incredibly neat. That's right to the right level. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
A lot of your work is obviously all by eye? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Yeah, what you actually do is try to keep a nice pitch on your reed. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-An imaginary line from the eave to the ridge and just work to that. -These lines are very severe. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
I can look right across and that is dead straight. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Looking down there, that is such a beautiful angle. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
It is literally putting a line back in the right angle, to follow the line of the roof. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:47 | |
Then you drive it back into nearly the finished position. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
-With a what? -This is what we call a leggit. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Just use it like a bat just to drive it back. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
Then that's in place. Then you fix it in to go on through to the rafters. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
What a view! | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
Yeah, what more could you want? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
-You lucky chap. -Up here working away. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
Not bothered by anybody. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
Just about earning enough to put a bit of cheese on the table. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
This is so therapeutic. You can almost imagine yourself in medieval England up here. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
Things just don't change. It's just lovely, isn't it? | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
We're joined by the geese down there, a few dogs and some cats on the farm. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
-Ever fallen off? -Me? Not yet. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
It's been fascinating stepping back in time and seeing how many | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
of our traditional rural crafts are not just being kept alive but are still flourishing. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
And what's more, I've loved helping out along the way. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
E-mail [email protected] | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 |